/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

Painted this

Are Aristides’ books available to download anywhere?

My first portrait

>>4080009
You can subscribe to Scribd for a month free and download a couple of her books for free. The download images are pictures of the pages, not scans, so they are not the best. But her lessons on classical drawing and painting were not there the last time I checked. I bought both and they are worth it for sure.

First painting I’m working on now. Super excited after a year of just trying to learn to draw. I’m clueless pretty much but I’m giving it a go.
Wish me luck.

sketching

>>4080019
Waterhouse study? Beautiful figure, you really nailed the legs. Good luck.

>>4080025
its pandora(s box) by jules joseph lefebvre

>>4080019
work bigger, buddy

>>4080019
Saw this and the criticism in the other thread. The foreshortening is still off, it doesn’t make sense for the right knee to be closer but the thigh to be longer.

>>4080025
Thanks man!
>>4080044
This started as a poster study, the first excercise in Lessons in Classical Painting by Aristides.
The size is pretty congruent with the picture I’m copying:)

>>4080052
>what is contapposto.

Posted this last trad thread. Haven't made much progress on it yet. Have taken pictures and painted over it digitally in a few variations though. Really cool effect, and noncommittal. Unsure which direction to take the actual physical painting, though. Should I do a thin glaze of white oil over the face to smooth it out, or leave it sketchy? Should I color glaze or stay black and white? Committing is hard.

>>4080044
Thanks for the new artist inspo.

>>4080080
Contraposto has nothing to do with it. The legs are fucked up in the original.

>>4080080
>what is perspective

you have no idea what you’re talking about do you?

>>4080019
Diving in the best way to learn. My first oil painting class assigned an oil painting the first day - the teacher said, I don't expect a masterpiece, I just want you to get a feel for using paint.
A lot of anons here are to anxious to just experiment, because they think there's an expectation of perfection on every attempt. Or they freak out at the idea that they might have to pay for the materials for 20, 30 paintings before good ones start happening.
You're on the right path. Keep going!

>>4080149
They're awkwardly painted, but they're not "fucked up". The shadow on the right leg throws off the whole thing. He obviously posed a model for this, but the lighting threw it off. The lighting overall for this piece is very odd. But anatomically it's accurate.

>>4080224
Yeah...they are though.

>>4080205
Thanks man! I am following some advice from Juliette Aristides concerning drawing: the longer u keep it open, the more accurate it will end up, and from Cesar Santos: Take each piece as far as you can.
I’m just hoping I haven’t got into too many bad habits.

>>4080115
I’m digging it.

>>4080230
They're not, though. Learn to look at art more accurately.

>>4080258

>>4080224
So how exactly do you push your knee simultaneously down and forward while keeping your supporting leg straight?

Charcoal drawing I did in school once

>>4080363
clean stuff--

added figures to this

>>4080550
also I really want to do bargue plates again, that book is so fucking fun

>>4080149
>>4080158
>>4080230
>>4080274
>>4080279
Literally the first fucking google search result.
The accumulated knowledge of geniuses for millennia, but no, ic faggeti cartoon babies know better.

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>>4080686
Pic related

Ok ladies and gentlemen. The fight is over. The trad followers of the wisdom of the Masters won. Let’s get back to posting personal trad art.

la meloncholia

oil

>>4080708
here, I fixed the levels and color for you in photoshop

>>4080722

wow thanks :3

Just finished this, gouache on paper. Really happy with how it came out for once.

>>4080242
Thanks, man.

My first portrait

>>4080735
Nice depth and perspective. Might want to smooth out the edges(details) in the farthest away parts.
>>4080744
You bet man. Keep going.
>>4080753
Listen here youngin, you got potential!

>>4080766
Thanks! I'm still trying to figure out the best way to get soft edges with gouache, but I see what you're saying :)

>>4080826
Yeah I’ve never painted with gouache, so really, as far as that goes, my words are useless.
Looking forward to your next piece.

Ayyy

>>4080753
thats a nat geo mag face if ever i saw one.

>>4080012
Stalin?

>>4080766
>>4081270
Thanks guys I really appreciate your cheer up. :')

>>4082225
No problem!

I want to be able to get smooth gradients over large background areas, but I always end up with mad brush strokes whether I'm using acrylic, gouache, or watercolor and it's most obvious when I am painting around an object or figure

I'm used to using markers, so I start with pencil drawing, then ink, then color, but I'm starting to think this is not how paint should be done.

Can't seem to get sharp edges or details in anything either. Did I not put enough gesso on the canvas?

>>4082245
Go to oil or for acrylic get some extender. But even that sucks. I hate acrylic.

>>4082260
Why do you hate acrylic?

I've been wanting to get into oil, but it's very intimidating, especially the cost and prep. Any good starter sets you could recommend?

>>4082284
If u stick with acrylic, check out NovaColor. Gambling has a 70 dollar color set of oils that are professional and do well.
I’m super new so my words don’t carry much weight. I’m still on my first painting (poster study). I’m reading lessons in classical painting by Juliette Aristides. Went thru her book lessons in classical drawing.
An anon, on this site about a year, told me to stop painting and concentrate on drawing for a solid year. I did that. My last drawing is the skull in the OP, and my first real try at painting is the pic related grisaille poster study attempt. Although my drawing still sucks, I am starting to get a preliminary grasp on some fundies. I don’t know much but am appreciating the fact that u hear about oils that they are very forgiving.

>>4082317
Forgot pic.

>>4079995
dayum

>>4079995
Dude your drawing is decent and you have a kinda grasp on value. Why the fuck don’t you take your time and develop a painting from beginning to end with intent, completely planned out?
I’ve seen your stuff and it obvious you know how to try to at least try to capture a likeness of a thing, figure or whatever. Cezanne-ish painting with impressionist color schemes that lack dedicated planned drawing of all elements of the picture just kinda suck. I’m just being truthful even though kinda harsh. I’ve seen some of your portraits that approach really good appealing pieces. Fuck the world, fuck this board, take your time and take a month and plan and paint something approaching a masterpiece. I know you can do it. There is NO reason to rush and EVERY reason not to. Failure is just positive corrective feedback. TAKE YOUR TIME.

>>4082317
Tbh this skull study is neat, very impressive if it's a result of a year of learning. Is it from life made with charcoal? It has nice creamy feel.

>>4082508
Thank you. I started that skull at the beginning of this past April. It’s a skull I bought off Amazon. Yeah from life but with Mitsubishi Hi Uni pencils on Fabriano hot press watercolor paper. I used a chamois, q-tips and a paintbrush to manipulate the graphite around and of course a kneadable eraser.
Pic related is the first thing I drew once I started trying to learn to draw and I drew that on August 1st of 2018. I had a bunch of acrylic paint laying around waiting to be used because I was getting into pouring so I tried my hand at painting for about a month and everything sucked. So then I bought some oils and still sucked. An anon told me I should stop and learn to draw for a year and I realized he was right. Now I’m starting to learn to paint but with some understanding of some fundies. Wish me luck.

>>4082600
You're very neat from the beginning, you impressed me. If you're doing it on your own then you have very good sense and judgement. Now it's been quite a while since I made drawings of a skull, they weren't good but I learnt a few things since then. Some crits:
-good you made edges in shade soft, but you could make them even sharper in the light
-edge of temporal bone has too much contrast, it's mostly a flat surface and you don't want it to draw that much attention
-the darkest place inside the skull are the teeth, while it should be the transition/edge of light and shade to convey the volume(but don't go overboard with that)
-the reflection on the lower side of zygomatic bone is as light as some halftones. If you want to keep your drawing integral, you want to keep light and shade separate-the darkest halftones will still be lighter than reflections and the lightest parts in shade
-when you draw from life you can't just copy the nature, you have to make selections what to amplify and what to leave. In you case, the shadows are a bit confusing in area of parietal and temporal bone and not really following the form. They probably were this way in nature and you copied the falling shades, but when drawn they are confusing because they don't say much about the form. You have to adjust or remove them, so they don't interfere with shadows that go around the form. To avoid this use one light source/ignore the shadows from the secondary light sources.
That's all I have to say, hope it helps you. I don't think you need luck because you seem to have a decent grasp on how to learn.

>>4079995
What medium?

>>4082727
Thanks for the crit. When I posted this to IG I let peeps know I wasn’t done completely but I was quitting due to the fact that I was going into my fifth month and I was too excited to about starting to paint to continue with the skull. I will probably one day have another look at it and finish it. As far as some of the other stuff you mentioned, this set up is in a shadow box with a single light source blazing down and was more of an exercise in seeing and copying exactly what I saw than any kind of artistic decision thing. Even with that I still have some value adjustments and comparisons to be made if I were to be true to what I see. I think it was Bouguereau who said when first learning, all energies are to be spent on attaining an exact likeness and after that ability is gotten, then a student can move onto making decisions about composition or making editorial decisions. I’m definitely butchering what he said, it may have not even been him, or I may have missed the point altogether but with the skull I was only trying to learn how to see and draw just that.
I am screen shooting your crit though for future use if I get back to this thing in the future. Thanks again.

finally got the right colors to finish this

>>4083775
cool, you shouldve used them

>>4083779
Pyw

>>4083821
stay salty shitfist. keep clutching your brush like a gorilla and painting the same one over and over ;)

>>4083821

>>4083752
Ok some of things I mentioned are not artistic choices but means to cheat human eye to make it perceive the picture as more real, like sharp edges in light and soft edges in shade. Some things you draw because you know they are this way, not just blindly copying, like knowing that any place in shade will still be darker than the darkest halftone, or drawing close things sharp and what is further softer. I believe Bouguereau had the realistic approach which is based on copying and measuring exact image. My critique is based on constructive approach, which teaches you how to use construction and physiology of human sight to make drawing look more real than a photo. If you embrace these rules you'll produce more realistic drawings. Even while doing a study of skull or human face you can't have the darkest or most contrasting fragment on some random part because it'll draw attention to it without a purpose. It'll make the drawing look unprofessional and you should try considering things like this from the start, not just after you reach certain point imo. Hope I explained my view.

My first try with a dip pen, I'm happy so far, quite a bit to go.

>>4083775
I think this is the best of the series. What are those orange highlights on her cheek?

>>4084507
>chicken scratching with a dip pen

>>4084567
Yes I like how it feels and I've never used one, just trying new stuff. You could offer legitimate critique or advice so I can improve instead of shitposting needlessly smug greentext. Why you have to be such an unhelpful cunt?

Trying to work on my watercolor and gouache, but it all comes out looking like shit. How the hell do I improve?

>>4084270
>>4084270
I hear all of what you are saying. My approach was to draw the light. No offense, but it’s silly to emphatically say the teeth are going to be darker as an absolute statement. It all depends upon the position of the object(skull) in relation to the light rays in relation to the viewer of the object. Also, in this case, the greatest, sharpest, most dramatic change in value did occur at the edge of the temporal bone. If I were more true in my rendering, it would have been even darker. I get what you are saying about construction but construction only helps us with form. What we see is determined by light. I could draw, with construction, a perfectly formed skull, but the way I see it is determined by light.
Yes I do like how this turned out so far but this isn’t a finished drawing to be an art piece, this was an exercise in seeing and copying what I saw.
The bottom of the cheekbone, the eye socket, inside the nose and a few other places still need work but I am done for now.
Maybe I am nitpicking because I, like most people, naturally rebel against crit, and I am just not hearing you.
I will consider what you have said.

Doing some watercolors, but i'll love to start using gouache.

>>4084679
Forgot image.

>>4084682
This is great. Watercolor is so intimidating. Great job.

>>4083831
I'm not even the person that posted the painting, you shitbreath gorilla, and still, pyw

>>4084679
>>4084682

Really good, anon. Colours on the face look pretty dull but it might be because of the medium.

>>4083775
Have seen your work a lot, but never asked: do you have any blog?

With watercolor should I sketch first in pencil or just paint immediately?

>>4084939
his name is Brian Comforti, just google it and you'll find everything

>>4084947
Personal preference. Some artists do a light pencil sketch, and then lift off the pencil once they get the first, lightest wash done, and it's completely dry. Some just dive in and paint. Try both, see which one you like. And, depends on the painting, too.

>>4084947
You can do both. I ussually draw a light pencil sketch and then paint on top of it, but i want to paint straight up, I gess it just need a lot of practice to get there.

>>4082245
The best way to get a gradient in oil is to use a fan brush. You'll need to practice with it, to get the hang of it.
The second best way is to do transparent washes - for that piece, do the green as an underlayer, then do a transparent wash of the blue over it - and use a fan brush.

For a background like that, you'd want to do it first, let it dry, then do the rest of the painting over it.

Get a couple cheap panels or gesso some paper, get a couple of fan brushes, and give it a try.

>>4084967
If you’re lucky you’ll find my twitter

>>4084995
Only could find your FB page, sadly

Still will follow and share some post or something, xoxo

>>4079992

Take some bad skull studies I tried

Markers on paper.

I’m cool with it

>>4084947
I do a pencil drawing with a light 2h drawing and get it as simple and clean as possible to know the placement of everything without having any extra pencil marks

Little plein air

>>4085066
https://twitter.com/ComfortiBrian
https://www.instagram.com/brianvcomforti/
https://www.instagram.com/briancomforti/
https://patch.com/connecticut/fairfield/police-seek-help-in-locating-missing-fairfield-man

The rock on the right is kind of interesting, but the rest feels rather muddled.

Don't think I'll go back because tide and weather makes it nigh impossible to catch the same impression.

Simple quick one, trying to cultivate a stronger sense of design

>>4085612
This was my "reference", the colours really are quite beautiful.

Pls critique

>>4085612
>>4085619
Look at the thumbnails. You had all those beautiful colors and you just kinda ignored it and did your own thing

>>4085511
Uhhhhhhf nooooooooo

At least my league of legends profile is still secret

>>4085511
Fun fact at one point my league name was my cell phone number

>>4084507
Cool pen.

>>4085886
is it Serker?

>>4079992
I was bored, so I drew this.

What I used:
>Pentel PG5 Slim Drafting Pencil 0.5mm
>Basic HB lead that came with the pencil by Pentel, but I should buy better quality Uni 2B lead
>Normal 8.5 x 11" (letter paper size) bleached white printing paper
>Standard pressboard clipboard

>>4085612
You can reinvent and organize colours while working from life but you muddied them with white and blue. You should start blocking in with few colours and then add some diversifications on top, because the way it is seems like you're trying too much to capture nuances right from the start and the result are scattered colours and brush strokes. You have to think about edge control too, because right now there's no differentiation at all. In your case the first plane could be sharper as it seems to be also the main subject, but I'd give sharp edges to the stones and for the colorful grasses would make some texture with round bristle. It would help if you focused a bit on neatness, picking a bit more pleasant colours and blocking in. I think the color of the shades in this case doesn't work good when it's almost the same as the water. Don't be afraid to completely change your ways of working and experiment and fail a lot, of you don't get too invested expecting masterpieces and let it go it'll be fun and learning experience.

>>4084702
>Watercolor is so intimidating. Great job.
Is this a joke?

>>4085395
Could be great if you had better round brushes and a better medium for transparency. Unless this is acrylic?

>>4085961
No joke. The lack of control scares me and the way you have to paint around the light is intimidating.

>>4085511
Woah, did you get lost or uhh what the fuck happened?

>>4086242
Really! I too am intrigued.

>>4085961
>roundbrushes
What did he mean by this?

Currently use linseed oil.im happy with the bolder colours anyway. (Oil)

>>4086643
Type of brush. Round, bright, filbert, flat.

>>4079992
lol why dont u guys just buy a computer??

>>4086780
Post your work.

Did a quick one, referencing Joe De Mers. I think I'm getting the hang of gouache.

>>4086780
I built a PC and spent around $8,000.00 on it. I just hate digital artwork and I tried very high-end tablets, but I always end up returning them. I like how when I draw I can go anywhere with traditional and not be stuck at a PC.

>You can use an iPad or Android tablet to draw on to move around with it.
Tried it and that shit sucks.

>You can use a phone too!
Tried that too and again that shit sucks.

Drawing traditionally is nothing about being poor, which is what you seem to be implying. Instead of being a troll show some of your cool art.

>>4087119
If you're curious what my PC is used for:
>Random high-end gaming
>Video editing
>Photo editing
>Browsing the internet

>>4086780
I do own a computer. A couple, actually, and a 24HD Cintiq. That's what I make money with.

I paint for me.

>>4087119
Nice job turning bait into an opportunity to brag.

>that shit sucks.
Or you're just a brainlet unable to adapt to something new.

>>4087132
We're not.

>>4087247
>bait
Nowadays you cannot even tell what bait is anymore.

>brainlet
>my meme words dawg
I could easily use the tablets I used to have. They just don't give me the satisfaction that drawing with a pencil on actual paper does.

>brag
I wasn't really trying to brag, plus $8K isn't shit nowadays in the real world deep down. That poster just seemed like an asshole shit talking everyone ITT like they're retards for liking the traditional way, when there is nothing wrong with traditional or digital people just have different preferences.

How good are cotman watercolors?

>>4088901
they are pretty good, get tubed if you dont care about portability

>>4088907
Have you tried mixing them with gouache like james gurney?

Started with a sketch, and did some experimenting with color pencil over it. Thoughts and opinions?

>>4089095
Gorgeous! Well done.

If afraid her head has exploded:(

>>4084978
Thanks man, just got a dozen panels on sale from Michaels and a fan brush, going to give that a shot

Pic related in my latest in acrylics

BASED GURNEY IS LIVE

https://youtu.be/IQO8sHKLMa8

>>4089408
nevermind its just a premiere. thought he was doing a live q&a. still worth watching though

>>4089095
I like it. Good job.

Dead thread?

Dumping this painting i made when I got into acrylics

https://m.soundcloud.com/user-444323605/my-life-sucks-episode-1

Brian made a podcast again

>>4089547
He’s got a nice voice. Seems like a kinda cool guy. Podcast might not be his thing. Kinda funny though.

>>4089582
Revised opinion: I’m still listening.
Asked for a name of podcast: FOOTBALL!

A friend’s photo reminded me of a Sargent sketch of Arab women so I tried to paint it. Zornish palette with alizarin crimson, yellow ochre, titanium white, ivory black. 16”x20” oil on canvas.

Working on a self portrait. Just got ahold of some red lead that I plan to use for more flesh tones. My brushes are shit, so i have to scrape every layer smooth before continuing.

>>4089928
>starting with eyes

If you are having problems with understanding if your painting issues are drawing issues vs rrndering issues, stick to simple still life for painting and keep going hard on pencil and charcoal drawings of figures and other advanced stuff.
Charcoal is basically cheap monotone painting.

>>4090031
Yup. That is, I think, really ESSENTIAL, advice/truth. I thought I had it but then found myself redrawing/painting a head over and over again because it wasn’t right the first time, but I thought I could kinda make it work. But after all the shapes and angles were painted, I ended up with a head that just has not “fit” with the rest of the image.
Actually, you probably were prompted to post what you did because of me:(

>>4084978
wtf is the technique here? I've tried a fan brush but no avail. do you just 'tickle' the paint to blend it? is there a video somewhere?

>>4089629
>>4089928
you should take it easy on the white. start with the shadows or midtones first and avoid using white till the last touches.

>>4082245
Your surface has too much texture if you want smooth blended transitions. Get some mdf or those aluminium composite panels. I even find linen can be too much for details at time.
I never use a fan brush, what sort of artists are you trying to recreate the look of?

>>4090675
I forgot to say, you'll need to prep the panels whichever kind you use. You can buy oil primer for a really ultra smooth surface, or gesso which will dry faster (but require sanding down between multiple coats) and can be easier to work on. I prime canvas that is too rough with oil primer to get rid of that weavey look. People like Godward used lead oil primed very fine linen. I recently studied one of his IRL as I'm painting a master study, and both the texture of the linen and the paint was completely smooth.

>>4090679
How does one achieve the smooth transitions in oils like these

>>4090675
I haven't heard of aluminum panels, can you give me an example of a good brand?

I would like to recreate the look of some classic paintings, which I'm now guessing were mostly done in oils

My main issue is I like sharp details and am used to being able to do them in pencil, pen and marker, but I can't seem to get the same no matter how thin the brush I use

>>4089629
>>4090560
I added white last but there was this luminosity to the shawl I couldn’t capture

>>4090742
In the US they're called Di-bond and similar brands. Really cheap.
I'm in UK, just buy them off ebay.
>>4090724
They're not necessarily blended, just painted in close value changes. I don't blend as I say, pic related is one I'm working on, on linen done with fast drying oils (Griffin). I will go back over the face to correct anatomy & everything, but this was the first pass. Usually on top of this is where you get the smoother look.
This is a really small head, about 2 inches high, to give you an idea of what the linen looks like compared to a cheaper substrate.

>>4084507
The reason why I went to the gym for 4 months 5 days a week was for the taste of the protein shake.
Apart from that you need to eat your greens, try with the books in the sticky

>>4080019
Good luck Anon

>>4080224
could be he exaggerated / elongated the proportions for effect. looks more elegant

not something i'd worry about for now, your copy is accurate to the ref painting.

>>4089280
kek
wish I'd read the tread before posting.
you are fixing that, right?

test

What do you guys think?

>>4091463
give it some background so it pops out.

>>4091470
How so? Never did that before

>>4080686
>bad foreshortening is good because muh contrapposto

wow anon, it’s almost like you’re appealing to authority instead of applying logic

>>4091463
I get the whole meme of having your pencils in the picture but damn son, can you at least try to make it look organic?

>>4091079
Hey thanks man. About to start at it again.
>>4091083
Yeah the contrapposto does that to the knee elevation. If you google contrapposto the first result is a wiki pic of a statue (man) and you can see the effect that dropping the hip does to the leg. Not sure if the effect is more pronounced with a woman and her different hip size/ placement. The painter may have elongated the leg for effect also to emphasize a more pleasing value composition. A good example of this type of value composition can be found in pic related.
Sorry for the sloppy line, I’m drawing with my fat finger.
>>4091091
About to get on it.

Couldn’t post last night.
Tried again and failed. Will paint again tonight.

>>4091595
Poor lass, she's got terrible green worms.

>>4091597
I work with a girl that has a body/ muscle structure like this. But more fem. big nice butt. Want to draw.

Drew this at the zoo today, 2 hour drawing with soft pastel on a3

>>4091752
Man on a mission lol. Did you go there just to do this drawing? All we have here is an expensive aquarium with depressed penguins

>>4081602
no. Tom Selleck.

>>4091752
Nice!

>>4091756
Today was my first day going to a atelier in Amsterdam where we draw certain animals in the zoo with a group.

Was great fun, really recommend it :)

>>4091595
The difference between the statue and the painting is that the statue pushes the knee backwards while the painting appears to be pushing it forwards

Just finished this. Watercolor

painting don quixote

>>4092202
Compositionally, you have some problems here - the upper portion with the blue sky feels like a completely different piece than the vignette in the middle surrounded by all the brown. You've framed and isolated it - try to find a way to bring them together. You're also creating what looks like a cross section of a hill, with a cavern inside it, instead of being in the foreground - you need to check your values to give some indication that there are planes of space here leading to the horizon, and adding some depth. Also, because of it's value and hue, the blue of the sky is the most important point in the panel.

>>4091964
The black background completely smothers the figure, and flattens the whole thing out. Your values are odd, too - do you intend the head to be in shadow, and the chest of the figure to be the focal point?

>>4091948
Another difference I noticed. The statue is a man. The painting is a woman.

>>4091510
Have you ever seen a woman naked?
Didn’t think so:)

Trying some abstract stuff, done with acrylic. Any criticism? Got more I could post

>>4092364
actually terrible PLEASE do not post more

>>4092366
Useless reply, at the very least tell me what you dislike about it?

>>4091510
O.k. My reply ( >>4092339 ) admittedly was somewhat snarky.
But if we are truly going to settle this we must find a girl and have her do the same pose and fairly look and judge from a real life example.
I do understand the position you are coming from.
My appeal was to authority but I was deferring to people who ONLY had, as their reference, models from REAL LIFE.
That does not violate the rules of logic, but rather establishes it. Working in a system of construction (theory) or even learning anatomy/perspective, when it violates what actual life presents us, forces us, if we are to be true to a logically sound progress of knowledge, to adapt and investigate why we found what we found.
In this case, why do her legs look like that...length, shadow, etc.
I was not appealing to authority so much as deferring to dudes who spent a majority of their adolescent and adult lives drawing WHAT THEY SAW from live naked models right in front of them.

I even had a girl at work strike the same pose and that is what prompted me to make the post in the sketch thread that was quite belligerent. Her body and legs looked the same, but the light was not the same so there is the possibility that the values were somewhat exaggerated for the sake of values, compositionally...which I referred to in a previous post.
Hey man, we are all here to learn, so let’s do that.
That chick that posed for me, she was going to wear shorts the next day at work so I could take a pic to see if anything was exaggerated but then I told her not to cause I found that pic of the statue.
But here we are so I’ll attempt to get her again to do it. You, among others I think, have made me genuinely curious beyond just trying to be right and proving it on this Yezidi tapestry weaving forum.

>>4092364
looks like my cock :)

>>4092364
its beyond shit
looks even worse than the rag I clean my brushes in

>>4092251
>black background completely smothers the figure, and flattens the whole thing out

That was on purpose

>>4092364
im usually not one to shit on abstract like the majority here, and realise how damn difficulty it is to get an end result that doesnt look like dog hurl. i find this piece is too dark though.

Same islet from a different angle.

Think my colours are better here

I went to the zoo today too. She was one of the zookeepers, we hit it off and she came back to my place for this painting.

>>4082770
Diarrhea

>>4093672
time to start going to the zoo....
(she looks like the same lady in all the paintings you post in here though)

>>4093672
>I went to the zoo today
Come on, show us those animal drawings.

>>4092949
They are lighter but still a bit muddy. Try more carefully crafting the shapes and control the edges and not adding too much white everywhere.

first oil painting, its incomplete

>>4094021
you are looking at it

Open to critiques. Always sideways.

>>4080022
Stop posting this shit everywhere

>>4094021
>>4093843
It was a joke. Anti humor

>>4094345
isnt everything.

i want to start getting into acrylics. but i got some cheapo things that streak everywhere. whats some crap i could paint with them to use them up?

>>4094029
is this fucking Gummo dude

>>4094356
use bad paint in the underpaintings or sketches for your actual painting.

>>4094156
Where is the light coming from?

Any critiques bros?

>>4094379
good idea.

>>4094512
all I can think of is a tip I heard from a painter that defining each tooth can make it look like a mouth full of tic tacs. that's not happening here, but I feel it might be worth exploring a version with no line gap for the front teeth?

>>4079992
Pet portrait I did

>>4094512
2 light sources

btw, yuck. don't draw individual teeth. hint at teeth,

>>4094602

>>4094512
I don't remember the name for it, maybe some other wise anon knows. But you're drawing tertiary shadows over the higher priority ones, which can make some things look awkward. Like on the cheeks.

also yeah don't draw the individual teeth, it's uncanny.

Good work though anon, looks nice

>>4091463
this actually looks nice. But please take your supplies out of the picture. This trend is cool to normies who don't understand art, but if you're showing your work to actual artists, it's best to leave it out.

>>4084682
very nice painting anon

>>4094523
>>4094602
>>4094747
what? maybe you just don't like teeth or something.

>>4080555
>bargue plates
>fun
nigga what universe are you in

>>4079992
aristedes is cool. comparatively pretty weak to other modern atelier artists but doing her best to bring back academic methods.

>>4094751
You're mad for no reason. Im not that anon but i like seeing the materials used in a drawing from time to time and for normies it gives more of a real context and aesthetic to the drawing as opposed to just a floating image in space. How you present your art matters. That anon wasnt really doing it right though the arrangement looks terrible

>>4082384
based slow poster

>>4094156
It's good work. I would suggest cleaning up your contours a bit. It's a bit vague, you need some crispness on the edges to offset the rest of the figure - I would not blur past the outside perimeter. I would also follow through with the solid lines of the face down through the body - throw a hard edge on the nipple, belly button, and crotch to unify it. Seriously, though, this is good work.

>>4094524
Work bigger - the lines of the pencil are fighting for attention from the figure. You're good enough to work much bigger.

>>4094512
Solid work. You're at the stage where you can capture the likeness, and have a solid grip on the fundamentals, now take it to the next level, with more polish and artistic license - more about pleasing image than perfect likeness. It feels "bumpy" overall, some selective editing would smooth it out more and make it more appealing. The values could use a little tweaking overall, too - you're on the verge of transitioning from "capture the image" to "making it your own" - which is where the real art happens.
(And yeah...the teeth. Or mostly, the gums - I'd lighten up the values so the lips are more prominent.)

>>4094759
I don't see any anger in his post, it was a polite request.

And, sorry, but no. A work of art should stand on it's own. Arranging the tools like that is social media poison. Show the work. The tools literally don't matter. Stop thinking of people as "normies", they're the same as you, and if you have any real ambitions as an artist - they're your market, so have some respect, yeah? Art is not a secret club house where everyone outside of it are "muggles" - which is the level of childishness you're displaying by using the word "normie".

did this oil sketch from a small sketch I did of a girl today

>>4094977
chasing pussy and looking at your reflection every chance you get is what keeps you so goddamn awful. drop the ego and your art gains will improve. be an artist and stop trying to look like an artist

>>4094980
>chasing pussy
guaranteed you've fucked more girls than me. If the number is over one you probably chase pussy more than me cumbrain

>>4094991
>cumbrain
youre such a damn brainlet brian

>>4094995
you're the dude complaining I paint too many tits. i honestly don't see the problem

>>4094996
i dont complain that you paint tits its just always some coffee shop girl or that one black girl, its obvious you use your art as a way to be interesting to females which is part of the bigger problem that youre insufferable because youve taken "artist" on as your identity. its like a gay guy who uses his sexuality as his personality, just obnoxious.

>>4095019
you should talk to my league friends, they'll tell you i'm much more invested in video games than anything art related.

>>4095023
of course you play league

black canvases are fun but ultimately seem pointless unless you have the materials to do a preparatory sketch on them. but they were on sale so whatever.

Has anyone tried Daler Rowney designer's gouache? What would you rate it? Can you mix it with other brands like M Graham and Schmincke?

>>4095025
>of course you play league
suddenly it all makes sense. Actually I'd like to see a few char designs for a videogame from Brian

>>4094977
why you hitting on tiny head girls

>>4094512
you could use some construction on the forehead. think 3d, now its just different values mixed together.

also i dont see a shadow or an indication of the "valley" between lower lip and top of chin. even if there is light, you should, in my opinion, make it a bit more visible.

>>4095629

>>4096304
try to avoid muddying brushstrokes, have them follow the form and leave it at that. you can stylize form but make it too arbitrary and it looks amateur. you'd rather your work look stiff and obvious than arbitrary and visually confusing.

>>4094977
I boobed this one up a little more

>>4096376
Her neck looks really thin, haha.

>>4096380
Kinda does, I’m gonna leave it like that though it’s interesting lol

>>4096380
The thin neck is caused by a loss of flesh that found it’s way into her right forearm and an extra finger on her left hand.

Watercolor and color pencil

>>4096376
Tiny head

>>4079992
are you apotheberries?

not done. I'm waiting for it to dry a bit more before mixing colors

>>4094512
Stop working from photos. It's painfully obvious and tacky

>>4095609
I really like Holbein gouache desu. Huge range and it's mostly single pigment colors. Though I'm an oilfag just getting into gouache thanks to a design class I'm taking and I'm picky about which pigments I use because I know what works for me.

>>4098498
when youre done you can turn the pic around so it can be smug at all the factory workers below.

hi y’all, first time on /ic/. i’ve been depressed and haven’t sketched/painted in years. i recently got back into it and wasn’t sure whether or not to post this in /beg/. this is pencil, a wip that idk i’ll ever finish.

>>4096648
this is so cute!!
>>4083775
nice vibrancy, want to know what she’s thinking
>>4080735
this makes me want to go outside. i like it.

Gouache experiment.

...Meh.

>>4098657
Its nice, anon. Has soul.

Working on a pic of my kittercat. It's been a rough week guys. Recovering from a really messy breakup, then my cat dies on me.
She was an older girl that I had forever, so I knew it would happen eventually but I'm still heartbroke. Most people talk about how their pet is so special because of this or that, but my little Ghost was irreplaceable. Didn't deserve to die the way she did either.
Going to do a few and the one I like the most I'll hang up.

>>4100251
looks pretty good. I like texture you gave the floors

>>4100655

Thanks. I've got another half-finished painting I should wrap up, but I want to finish this marker thing I'm working on first.

>>4091964
Another thing, Ink

>>4094524
looks great
>>4095790
very good figure and proportion, shading looks nice too, right arm is too big tho
>>4096304
the paint looks too "soft", give it some texture
>>4096648
very comfy
>>4098657
very good, the face looks great
>>4100251
looks good but the floor and the walls look too flat

>>4100686

Well, I finished this. Copic Markers on Bristol.

>>4102256
shading on this looks great

>>4102263

Thank you very much. I went very slow and cautiously when I got to the girl, especially her face.

Marker drawings are one of the few media where I actually feel like a professional when I use them.

Smol and fast sketch with watercolours. Can't say I captured the likeness but otherwise I like it.

>>4101113
Looks good but the part below head doesn't really read to my eye.
>>4100251
I like it. The place seems very cold and sterile. Even the plants that are supposedly there to give the place more life have succumbed to the cold atmosphere

>>4102278
>The place seems very cold and sterile.

Thanks. I was trying to go for a kind of brutalist look, but I added way too much blue. Glad it still conveys the harsh atmosphere.

Pls respond

finished this

Oil on canvas

>>4102591
Brian, why did you hit me? It wasn't supposed to be like this. You aren't the man I fell in love with. My heart can only take so much. I'm leaving you.

Perhaps this is a little derivative of fechin, who I've been analyzing. But it's a pretty interesting result

>>4080012
absolute unit

>>4104204
go thicker with paint and try to define things better, as is there are no sharp edges anywhere

>>4102582
CHeck out the davinci initiative vids on YouTube.

tips for distant snowy mountains in acrylic?

>>4105409
check Bob Ross' videos, thats all he paints. Im sure you can apply the same technique for acrylics too

>>4100253
tyvm.
>>4101113
ty, reading these two comments has helped me. your guy reminds me of the crusties in big cities.

>>4105465
oil wet on wet is drastically different than acrylic

>>4105409
Your colours, shapes and values are all fucked up everywhere.

In landscape painting to create distance you make the things farther away bluer, with less contrast in values and softer edges between shapes.

>>4105465
>>4105502
a lot of what bob ross does relies heavily on the canvas being pre -coated in his magic white (that sounds dirty), i think its the equivalent to slapping a layer of linseed on before painting.
ill try experiment with the palette knife technique, maybe with some retarder mixed in it might work.

>>4105507
>softer edges between shapes
this is tripping me up too, im used to gouache where i can just rub a brush over the edge and blend.

>>4105525
>i think its the equivalent to slapping a layer of linseed on before painting
No, no, no, don't do this. It will take forever to dry.

>>4105534
Then do the same in oil. I like filberts for small areas for this, fans and flats for larger areas. If you're working over dry paint, then make some glaze and soften the edge with that.

>>4105409
Do you really not see all of the blue in this picture?

I think you're not observing closely enough. You're doing the common mistake of painting what you think is there, not what is. LOOK at the photo. Your hues and values are all over the place.

>>4105552
i swear 'blue for atmosphere' was in the back of my head. i know i fucked a lot of it up and i wont bother giving excuses. i really just wanted to ask about the snow thing, i wouldnt have posted it otherwise.

>>4105549
i want to learn acrylic though, its cheap and does larger surfaces than gouache.

How does James Jean make his acrylic paintings have such smooth transitions?

Do 3D prints count as digital or traditional?

>>4107190
do you do the modeling by hand or in a 3d program? theres your answer

>>4079995
Is that pikachu in the middle left ?
My sides

Logos is Rising! Finished it a couple weeks ago.

>>4105597
Really like this. Where can i find more of your work?

Gouache. 11x9.

>>4108482
Nice.

>>4098619
>dude stop practicing lmao

>>4108466
@ajrhinoart on instagram

>>4108466
Thank you. The instagram has almost everything I've done from the very beginning.

>>4105579
Then learn it. We're trying to tell you how to blend acrylics. Get some glaze, and soften the edges with it. That's what I did when I was doing acrylic. Acrylic takes some patience, because it dries so fast, and blending is more about glazing or mixing color optically by cross-hatching color over another. The retarders that slow drying time I found to be just awkward to use, so I had to develop a different mindset using them, than I do with goauche or oil. Same as when I tried egg tempera in college - different medium, different challenges and techniques and problems.

>>4106934
Looks like a lot of scumbling and drybrush of highlights over mid and dark tones.

>>4108017
Getting there. The only think I don't care for is the framing, the placement of the tree on the left, especially, it cuts the image off. The lower right is a black hole, visually, maybe throw some more hues from the sky into it? Throw some greens and browns into it, too - water, especially in lakes and rivers and streams, is rarely just blue, and it would balance it out more. But overall, good job. It's time to step up your level of detail, especially in the trees, and adding another level of detail, especially in the ground clutter, like just a little more definition in the log, and finer strokes of color in the grass, and some sprinkling of texture in the dirt.
The entire panel feels unfocused, because of it. You have the same rough edges at every depth - a little tightening up in the foreground will focus the image more, and give more of a sense of depth of space. Your values are very tight - which is usually the case at sunset/sunrise, so you can manipulate detail to adjust the focus, and undo the flattening of the depth from the values.
Again - not bad work, at all. Just start thinking about the next level, for the next piece.

>>4109793
Awesome. Thank you. I’ve moved on from that one as it was a gift. This one I’m still working on. I’ve got almost 30 hours on it thus far. It’s 36x24. The foreground is incomplete as well as dark rocks where the waterfall is. I kind of messed up today when I put the water in. But it’s ok. I use liquin and it will be dry by tomorrow.

>>4109847
Better. The rocks are an issue. They don't read as rocks. What's the source image on this? Rocks have an internal logic to them, that makes them read as "rock" - their shape, texture, etc. Plus, you have all kinds of opportunity for color there - rocks CAN be grey, but you have artistic license to make something look more interesting, visually. And, there's more focus issues here. The ( it think it's) waterfall in the middle is in a different focus than the rest of the image. Step back and take a look at adjusting focus to help promote the sense of depth here. The foreground needs to be in sharper focus, to place that properly in the middle ground.
I think you should start paying attention to paint strokes now, too. You have some nice things happening around the middle, in the foliage, but it kind of falls apart further out. Maybe start using strokes in the same directions, give some uniformity. I know you're painting loosely, and that's fine, but you can stay loose and still control your paint strokes. Like this painting, I found on Google. It's a dramatic sky like yours, and she has a uniformity to her paint strokes across the image - the spiky stroke quality is consistent throughout. Just something to consider. You can also let that develop on it's own, over time, but it's something you can consider.

Another one at my local zoo.

This time a Japanese crane bird.
2 hour drawing using pastel and stuff

>>4109782
>The retarders that slow drying time
my thought was theyd be useful for glazing, since you can only add so much water to acrylic before ruining the bonding.

Here’s where I’m at with my current piece. I’ve got to fix the vegetation by the waterfall, finish the foreground, and a few other tweaks and I’m gonna call it finished and move on. I’ve got 30 hours on this and don’t want to dwell on the flaws. Time to start another. It’s all up on YouTube as I live streamed all of it if anyone is interested. I appreciate the advice I've gotten here. Thank you https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCjMTBZQBxws3OhNur0Jqv5A

Got the hands right on this I think

>>4110771
left hand still lookin like a claw
arm lookin too much like a straight cylinder
belly button is fucked

>>4110782
Sometimes u gotta just throw the whole left arm in the trash

>>4110188
This looks great. The colors are nice.

>>4110782
I was sticking too close to an old shitty drawing, is the stomach better now?

>>4110188
fantastic

>>4110410
What you want is matte medium, or glazing medium. I preferred those over extender/retarders for glazing. They market retarders as good for transparency, but I didn't care for them. I used matte medium, mostly, this one:
https://www.dickblick.com/products/liquitex-gloss-and-matte-mediums/
Don't get the gel medium, that's more for building texture, and is too thick for glazing.

I started this gouache painting last night.

Oops. Forgot to attach the picture.

>>4112213
Dude awesome. Those values and textures on those mountains are beautiful.

>>4111118
damn I think I picked up a finisher varnish. I'll have to go check the label again.
either way, it's gloss, and I prefer matte after painting in the water colours for a while. It's easy enough to add gloss at the end if I think it needs it.

>>4089528
love this

This was pretty much my first try painting in oil on canvas. I know it's very poopoo but it was very fun. Criticism welcome.

>>4112448
Thank you. Here’s an update on that one. I think I may have made it worse but I’ll finish it before I come to that conclusion.

>>4115505
you did make it worse. but its all good, you live and learn

>>4115690
Yes. I agree, but I'll try to fix it a bit. I just finished this. Pure joy signing it after 35 hours.

Finished

>>4079992
I only started drawing a year ago, you can beat me up if you want though I'm used to it.
Sorta unrelated question, but I got a graphic tablet (Huion gt-191) recently as a gift, started using it with krita and realized that krita is awful. I noticed that on the adobe website that photoshop by itself is 21 USD a month but the 10 USD photography package also has photoshop along with lightroom and some other day shit I'm not going to use. I was wondering if the 10 dollar package comes with a different/ feature cute version of photoshop or something? It doesn't make sense to me that by itself its worth 21 dollars but if you buy the little photo bundle its only 10 plus 2 apps.

>>4116392
You should pirate stuff if you are unwilling to pay
Also maybe you missed some fine print with the deal you're talking about

Finishing this one from a photo.

>>4116420
Looks good. Bravo for the mention of photo reference.

>>4116392
the amount of cloud storage is different between the two iirc. most people will recommend the photography pack as the better deal.
you dont need photoshop for traditional art.

Gouche and acrylic on panel

Gouache on watercolor paper.