/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>4072272
In my case, I just want to draw this story and leave something somewhat entertaining behind before I eventually die decrepit and alone.
Read it on mangadex, because vertical scrolling is gay!

https://mangadex.org/title/33945/project-shade

>>4072278
I like your drawings, but it looks messy when it's all put together on a page. You could try cleaning things up a bit.
Good job regardless going that far. I don't draw comics myself but read a bunch of it. Keep it up m8

here's my comic

>>4072352
based and comicpilled

here's another one

>>4072352
pretty good

>>4072272
>sketchy lines
I want to read comic, not storyboard

So I'm going to draw in a shounen manga style.

Where should I upload my work ?
How many pages should I write ?
Should I copy the standard jump comic pages?

>>4072424
Medibang Comic seem to be best site to post shonen manga if you don't mind few readers there

Question to mangafags: Do you write from left to right or right to left? Why?

>>4072352
>>4072382
I need more of these.
Do you have a blog?

>>4072439
Right to left because I'm used to it.
Never read comics because they're shit
It's like telling a person who use to toothbrush using the right hand to use the left hand instead.

>>4072272
>>4072278
cool af, love the sketchiness

>>4072457
no i only posted these for imageboard attention

>>4072478
>MS paint comics have cuter females, better composition, better plot than anything I have ever created
How many did you make?

>>4072491
this is the last one

>>4072439
Right to left

Why? Because i'm not weeb

>>4072272
this is still a project in progress but i really want to make it true, i spend usually one day per page, the story takes place in america during the 1930s
it follows the story of homeless children who need to find a job to survive in the time when unemployment was high as fuck, so they end up working in a secret underground factory along with many other children where they get enoguh money to survive, but it is a secret to what exactly the factory produces and they want to find it out, also the mysterious aura of the factory gives all of the workers a random curse (for example colorblindness) and overall messege of the story is to think for yourself i am inspired by naoki urasawa, kentaro miura and hirohiko araki (im a weeb dont hate me)

>>4072531
I really like the art and premise, I'm sure u can make it true anon

>>4072382
>He can visualize
Confirmed for not being npc.

>>4072531
Someone been tracing attack on titan I see

>>4072574
literally never watched that

>>4072278
Good style, decent composition, good flow, but you need to work on your drawing skill man. Sketchiness ruins it.

>>4072531
Cool af. I want to read it.

>>4072531
It looks nice anon, I hope it pans out!

where are you guys posting your webcomics

>>4072278
So you can just post your own shit onto a site like that? Or does it need to be approved?

>>4072531
this is print worthy, don't waste it in a webcomic anon. I'd legit buy it physically if you make it.

>>4072463
>Never read comics because they're shit
This guy thinks comics are just superheroes.

are there any published stuff made with clip studio paint?

for example what would you imagine this comic was made by?

>>4072994
>are there any published stuff made with clip studio paint?
IDK about CSP but a bunch of pro nip artists work with Paint tool SAI

>>4072994
I'm pretty sure Nagatoro san is made in CSP, there's a lot of manga made digitally nowadays

>>4072994
>are there any published stuff made with clip studio paint?
tons of stuff, most mangaka who work digitally use CSP
many western artists use CSP as well

>>4072994
Dave Gibbons uses CSP and so does a bunch of other random comic pros.

>>4072895
thanks, if it picks up ill try to sell some physical copies

>>4072883
I think you can post it, as long as it's tagged properly. Then again, they might've been more lenient on mine because it's super animay, but try it out.

>>4073428
I guess i'll give it a shot when i start mine up in october. The aesthetic might be an issue, the one i want to use is more of a "in Darkness Dwells" kind of thing, but might as well try.

>>4073441
Best of luck anon--show us once you start it!

I could always use feedback. I just finished the 100 page first chapter (1 of 12) of my own comic, which I post now and again on /ic/. I think I've made solid progress in a year. I'm currently going through another revision. I don't want to get lost in the process of redrawing everything to fit current polish and skill-level, but I do NOT want crappy first and second draft writing stinking the place up.

The Concord Initiative is about a young, haunted king of a declining Empire in a fantastical 18th century. He tries to spark a nationalist movement to combat the spreading hopelessness of his people; he reinstates an old, controversial program to create a propagandized spec ops team of exceptional national heroes and reformed villains. The situation degenerates.

https://tapas.io/series/The-Concord-Initiative

>>4072841
The relevant sites are Webtoon and Tapas. They both highly favor LGBT/Romance/Slice of Life, but that's just the nature of the webcomic audience, I think. Webcomics are increasingly a "Tumblr" brand thing, for better or worse.

Still, Tapas and Webtoons will host your stuff for free. Tapas has a much better UI and forums filled with other creators. Whether or not the forums have any actual value to offer is dubious at best, but you can drum up a decent amount of engagement that way if you're friendly.

Webtoon has the larger potential audience, but it has a notoriously awful UI, reader engagement, andstructure--not to mention it only accepts 800px wide jpgs. It's oriented for mobile reading, mostly.

There are other sites like comicfury and smackjeeves, but they're much, much smaller. You can start your own website, but that provides the extra challenge of getting people to visit it rather than the huge webcomic aggregates.

>>4073449
I'm on hiatus now until November, but I want to ramp up production of supporting pieces. Specifically, I'm trying to make three small but polished looking character concepts every week, accompanied by little primary source tidbits rather than straight up descriptions. I'm also trying to write one short essay on creative aspiration/ambition/delusion per week.

How can i start a webcomic without any experience in the field whatsoever?

>>4073454
You start. You won't make good stuff at first, but I can't think of many comics that were particularly good early on. Like anything, you have to spend quality hours of quality work on it. Fortunately, lots of people are making webcomics, so there's a lot of people to talk to about it and lots of comic making resources out there. Unfortunately, lots of people are making webcomics, so the competition has never been higher for space and attention that has never been more elusive.

Your best bet is to storyboard and script out a basic outline, and then consistently make a page or more of the comic a week. Then, post regularly on a schedule of your choice to a comic portal like Tapas or Webtoon. Consistent updates over the long term (LONG term) is the most reliable method of getting noticed--but even that is nowhere near a guarantee.

>>4072352
I experienced an emotion from looking at this. good job anon

>>4072382
God damn I laughed hard at this. You should do more.

>>4073449
thanks for the outline on the websites! it's great for future reference. really nice webcomic by the way, you made me reinstall tapas just to subscribe. cheers!

>>4072272
Anime Fights

Fights between famous anime characters.
Hisoka vs Kite (Hunter X Hunter): https://tapas.io/episode/1472091

>>4072994
Nearly every mangaka who does digital uses CSP.
Tsugumomo's an example

This is a page I just finish toning today

>>4073008
>paint tool sai
I've never seen anyone try to use that for comics, just painting/illustrations.
Clip studio has far more resources, so sai is honestly kind of a pain for comics.

anyone wanna roast this?
https://tapas.io/series/how-to-f-up-everything

if any of you happen to feel unsure about your work, remember that everything posted in this thread is several orders of magnitude more promising narratively than this years Hugo award winners.
don't doubt yourselves too much if you aren't achieving the success you are hoping for right now, create something you can be proud of no matter what.

>>4073452
>Specifically, I'm trying to make three small but polished looking character concepts every week, accompanied by little primary source tidbits rather than straight up descriptions. I'm also trying to write one short essay on creative aspiration/ambition/delusion per week.
I should try doing the same, anon. Work hard now.

>>4073919
Nothing to roast, your art's pretty good.
If anything, I would work on bubble placement--I feel like your bubbles are squished against the edges of the panel, and because of that they don't bring too much attention to themselves.

keep it up bru

>>4073919
I like how the hook parodies/lampshades the 'well, this is me'-comic and takes it in a more interesting and psychologically plausible direction.
Also good job on not rushing impactful scenes but actually devoting a few pages to developing your characters reactions to those situations visually.

I'd say you could work more on your fundamentals though. Your art is functional but not appealing in its own right. Perspective, lightweight, color harmony and composition seem like the obvious areas you could improve on to achieve a professional look.

I make a webcomic called Swords.
Ask me anything.

>>4072272
Here's my webcomic.

The one thing I hope to achieve is personal growth.

http://www.taleofjaspergold.com/

>>4075700

>furry

You're ngmi doing comics. Switch to fetish art.

But I don't want to do fetish art. I just wanna tell a story with manimals.

>>4075709

Yea well I don't want to do my wife's boyfriend's laundry but I do because it pays the bills.

>>4075710
sorry to hear that. but webcomics aren't my method of income.

>>4075718

It's not about the money. It's an analogy for you do whatever the fuck you have to do to get what you want. If you want growth you won't find it doing furry comic shit.

>>4075722
I think I've grown a lot if you compare the first page, and the latest one.

>>4074048
yooo you too come here? it's me toothy

What is your approach to the story? Do you have everything figured out when you finally start or make shit up as you go? I'm kinda doing weekly comic strips and I have to occasionally sit down to brainstorm some jokes but I don't like the idea of hitting a dead end in the plot if I'm working on an ongoing story and I end up tanking. Preparing the full story from the beginning just encourages procrastination however because you never feel ready to start

I made a brief attempt at one earlier this year, but gave up pretty fast. It wasn’t so much the workload but I became increasingly self conscious about my writing and characters until I started disliking the whole concept.id like to try again though, maybe with something shorter

>>4073449
Still a big fan of your comic

>>4072382
jesus christ lmfao, saved

>>4075802
I like your thing.
Make a short story pls. Do you have a social media page?

>>4072478
I don't understand.

>>4075752
Hey buddy.

>>4075802
I was a little dissapointed that you dropped it honestly

>>4075802
I really dont like the halftones. Everything else is very good.

>>4076038
I love halftimes but have no idea how to use them

>>4076130
If you want to make them less jarring, I'd reccommend using tones with a higher dot density--it still creates that tone texture without making it so rough.

>>4076130
>>4075802
what screen frequency are you using? It's a bit of a bitch on screen because screentones are meant primarily for print. I have read around that the recommended frequency for screen printing is around 65 but it looks like shit. The dots are way too large.
I published a thing made in a manga style and in the end I did away with the tones in favor of flat greys. What I recommend if you use CSP is to export the image under the "comic" setting, not "illustration" at FULL size then shrinking it to the size meant for print. If you export the image as "comic" at a smaller size the dots will stay the same size and they will look huge, if you export as illustration you get artefacts.

I draw these shitty comics just to draw, I don't even know why. I start drawing at 10 pm and finish before midnight. I try to do atleast 1 everyday.

this is my current one
>>>/i/581258

this is the last page for this one. I only did 5 then lost steam and wanted to draw something else.

>>4075802
The only thing I don’t like is how loose the face in the last panel is. If it had like 20% more anatomy it’d be great. You should try and make a comic.

>>4076136
>I'd reccommend using tones with a higher dot density--it still creates that tone texture without making it so rough.
The problem with high density is that when the image gets resized for whatever reason (most sites are adaptive these days) you get ugly artefacts (that are different from moire). This is not the case with scanned manga because, being scanned, the pattern is blurry. But tones have a hard edged, aliased pattern that is not meant to work on screen.
Unless you want to use the dots as a literal pattern, e.g. a polka dotted fabric, you're better off using greys for tone. At least this is what I concluded after trying to work it out.

>>4076203
I’m sure there is a tutorial out there to make the screen tones more consistent like in a manga digitally. I never use them personally.

>>4076272
There are, and it's pretty simple to use tones properly (just never overlay different screen frequencies to avoid moire, only use a different density) but it's all meant for print.

did any of you guys apply for jillian tamaki's mentorship thing? i got the rejection letter today, but it was a nice one.

>be writer
>want to collaborate with artist
>"pay me minimum wage salary or gtfo"
>...

>>4075802

I just came here to say don't give up. You very clearly have an eye for it and it would be a shame.

I also had a hard time this year reaching any art goals that I had. I did make some gains but ultimately I feel like I failed myself, haha.

Do what works for you. Even if that means only doing a couple of pages to create a scene. Eventually you will feel like you have a better grasp of the flow of things.

>>4076340
this is your comic?

>>4075700
BASED, just look how clean this line art is

>>4076308
I'll do it for the fun and practice

>>4076416
Okay, want to send me some of your artwork? Contact me at: Lemming #8573 - on discord.

>>4076308
what did you expect? writing is the easy part.

>>4072499
youre a genius

>>4076455
Writing is much more difficult than drawing

>>4076464
Kek

>>4076455
Sure, but how many people can say they have finished stories ready to be adapted? Unlike 99% of time-wasters who 'have an idea', I've actually spent months finishing several scripts to a high standard. That is worth something, but this isn't what the OP wanted the thread to be about so I'll stop here.

>>4076455
As an artist I think if your standards are high, writing can be as hard as drawing.
The problem is a lot of writers ignore the "high standards" part and expect artists to draw their garbage story for free

>>4076474
And so does the artist you want to collaborate with. If they can learn how to write why can’t you learn how to draw?

>>4076474
It means nothing. No one cares, because having the full story is the bare minimum for accepting a script.

>>4076474
What page rate did you offer? If you believe in a project you should be willing to invest money in it, just like artists are willing to invest money in courses, art supplies, etc.

>>4076484
I don't like drawing. That reason enough is why I don't pursue it. I love writing, it is my #1 passion in life. I'm all for paying people for their work, but I work a shitty minimum wage job, so I can't afford to pay someone else a salary I don't even have.

>>4076509
write a book

>>4076519
Will do. I just turned a screenplay of mine into an hour and a half radio-drama. So I'm finding ways to get my writing out there.

>>4076509
>but I work a shitty minimum wage job, so I can't afford to pay someone else a salary I don't even have.
if you don't have money then don't ask people do work for free
even if you offered a super shitty page rage it would be more professional and you would probably get someone to volunteer

>>4076523
good. What do you write about? I'm starting to get curious.

>>4076509
>minimum wage job
They get paid minimum wage too. So? Why do they need to entertain your requests?

I could get into arguments on why you fuckers think artists are free slave labours, but I’ll be helpful instead- if you really believe in your idea, pitch your work with a name (those really basic comic drafts that have dialog and minor panelling done) to show that you’re at least half serious.

>>4076474
of course it's worth something, but you're still putting around 20% of the work in to the artists's 80%, while getting 80% of the credit if people like it. not to mention comics are one of the lowest paid types of art, and eat into time that could be used for paid work or porfolio to get work.

all that combined, draw muh 22+ page story please for free is a terrible investment for the artist with a brain. if an artist can't write and needs a script it's much better worth their time to adapt something public domain, like a jane austen novel

>>4076539
anon don't do this, retain your dignity

also post art goals

>>4076308
If you expect people to work for you basically for free chances are you're an idea guy who has never finished a story. Good writers are just as rare as good artists, and if you wanted to hire a professional to write a story based on your art and basic plot outline they'd charge you well above minimum wage.

>>4076538
So:

(3 complete scripts 200+ drafted pages written) A serial comedy-adventure about a group of magically cursed individuals trying to reach the top of a magical mountain to reverse their curses. I've 95% completed the 1hr30mins radiodrama episode for the first episode of this. Full voice cast, narrator, and score.

2. A sci-fi/western set in the future about a town that has to be evacuated when the military frontline falls, and monstrous beast-men come to kill them. There's 500 people in town but only 400 spaces on the blimp. Starts out like Titanic lifeboat scenario, then becomes more of a 300/Zulu small group of people vs huge army battle.

3. Sci-fi in the vain of Alien and Blade Runner about a mild-manner ship janitor who is thrust into a hero role when colonial activists try to mutiny the vessel. Sort of an Agatha Cristie meets Ridley-Scott future scenario.

>>4076560
sounds like fun schlock. I would love to read these but i'm not sure artists would like to do it, especially for bread crumbs.

>>4076464
hahahaahahaahah

>>4076464
>he actually believe this

>>4076554
>Darwyn
Pour a 40 out for a real nigga.

>>4072463

If you write in a language that goes left to right, but you draw right to left, well that's pretty embarrassing dude.

>>4072463
>>Never read comics because they're shit
Ah yes i see.

You're a retard, too.

I have some problems with my work schedule, what causes me to be too slow.
I need some kind of system.
My style is always starting sketches with random panel at random page, it depends what part interest me the most. This causes the whole drawing progress to be a bit chaotic and i have no idea how far i've gotten because the drawings are scattered between pages.

>>4076560
your elevator pitches are boring desu
even if you got an artist to draw the bottom two projects for free, they will come out like crap
good luck finding an artist this desperate who can draw a sci-fi setting and not have it look like shit, there is a large amount of design work involved in sci-fi projects and you need to draw lots of props

>>4076373

It's more of a short story but yeah, this is one of my comics.

>>4076308
>>4076464
Even if you think writing is more difficult than drawing, the art is always the most time consuming part of a comic.

>>4076683
Writer anon here. I didn't say writing was harder, that was someone else in the thread. Writing and drawing are two different crafts. Some brilliant creatives can do both. I'm just passionate about writing. My heart isn't in drawing.

>>4073877
good shit anon

>>4076690
Why are you here then? There are better places to find artists to work with.

>>4076808
Where? Don't say reddit.

>>4076678
great stuff anon. you got some real style. keep it up.

>>4076817
twitter

some discord servers

>>4076639
thumbnail it first?

>>4076560
those sound hard as fuck to draw desu, crowd scenes are hell

Amusing to see that a QnA offer to ~150 alleged readers garners only three questions, two by the same person. Tough crowd out there. On the plus side, it's allowed me to go a bit nuts with answering each question. It's tricky trying to gauge reader investment/interest--passive consumption is so easy, and I say that from experience.

>>4075802
That means a lot to me coming from you, man.

It's nice to see a web comic thread on /ic/. Allow me to share/shill as well.

Here are a couple of web comic series I'm currently working on.

FaustFall

"All form of Dreg yearns for faith in some form of cause, belief, or guidance. The Countryside beckons such miserable lot to its decrepit domain whereby they scavenge for truth. Many are given purpose through cruel acts while others languish in madness. How so few question this existence under their venerable Titans. Only those who perpetuate this cycle and smother its rejects may know bliss. Saints preserve the wretches whose ears echo this land’s end."

https://tapas.io/series/FaustFall
http://www.smackjeeves.com/comicprofile.php?id=178366
https://www.webtoons.com/en/challenge/faustfall/list?title_no=203841&page=1

This series is on temporary hiatus while I work on another series, but I plan to return to sometime in September. I've otherwise been writing up new scripts for it; currently made 4 new ones.

Pic-related, the back cover to book #3.

>>4077514

And this is the other series I'm currently working on.

Cardinal Junction

"Sequestered between decrepit woods and dreary swamplands, stands the Cardinal Junction – a collective of oligarchical city-states embattled in a 500-year-old civil war. The Abbots of the windy North combat the Covens of the damp South upon the war-torn farmlands of the East as broken souls escape to the West for a life of rail work and mining. The Junctions each seek an audience with their Lamb-Veiled Shepherd, for who they birth and die for alike. Amidst the wisps and corpse-lights, young Agatha Crowley, alongside her compatriots, plunge further into the shadows which inspired this age-old war."

https://tapas.io/series/Cardinal-Junction
http://www.smackjeeves.com/comicprofile.php?id=178392
https://www.webtoons.com/en/challenge/cardinal-junction/list?title_no=196040&page=1

Pic-related, most recent page of book #4.

>>4076542
what a pretty nose

>>4077303
I wouldnt be too discouraged, only a tiny fraction of followers participate. Look at the most popular webcomics out there and compare the number of views to comments.

>>4072531
Godspeed, anon. I root for your success

>>4074048
Do you feel like you burned out your only schtick relatively early? An entire collection of comics that only has swords as the unifying theme? No story, no character, no really exceptional jokes after a while. Just swords in sword situations doing sword things.

Hello. I already asked for help in another thread but it was a little off topic. I have a bad English could you give the options dialog for the scene.

That's what I'm working on.

>>4077747
I have 40,000 Instagram followers, I'm getting 1000-2000 new readers a week and most of them will only read the most recent 5-10 comics. It's not a great format for telling longterm stories.
Reddit won't upvote story episodes unless you shave away any mention of character names either.

>>4077783
do you think this will be sustainable in the long run? will you just go full garfield when you run out of jokes?
comedy strips are the only thing that works in webcomics, I have no idea why people try to publish stories

>>4075802

Really digging your artstyle!
I might also be too self critical and feel the need to constantly rewrite and redraw my comic. This is the 4th attempt or so and I hope I can finish it finally.

This page is almost finished and I wanna avoid using tone.