/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

Mural im working on for work. Gonna be put up in the dining facility.

wanted to get some feedback from /ic/ before proceeding with the painting

>>4069973
Is that a simpson on the left

Having trouble finding these artists (and actually figuring out what some of these signatures say)
so can anyone point me in the right direction?

I know this isnt' the right thread for this but I can't think of another on that might be able to help.

>>4069766

>>4070184
>biz
>sonjulian
>riley
>irnyietta
>depiri

why the fuck are you finding artists based on their signature and not work is what im wondering. lol

Unoriginal lightboard study after Crumb. I'll try inking it once I settle on a nib.

my arm pits are really really smelly.

>>4069973
i think it's cool that I recognized vanakka before reading the filename

i'd make vanakka's legs sturdier, it looks like he's floating, and perhaps add a band of some sort that his pauldron is secured to, but otherwise the composition seems pretty good to me

how the fuck do i render water?

i thought i'd do the values for below the water level as sunlight would pass through it, but then i realized i have no fucking clue what I'm doing

>>4071144
pro tip:

Water not blue. A cheap trick for water is to reflect every object. Including the colors of the object. Reflect the environment. Reflect.

>>4071151
>>4071144
the thing is, water doesn't reflect as much light when there's a shadow cast over it.

would the reflection be pointed towards the viewer? and would i have to construct the rock formations upside-down for the reflection? or should i just eyeball it?

>>4071190
anon i would grab some good reference. if i were to eye ball it i would show the building reflection in the shadows. leave the lighted areas with out building reflections.

How is my composition? It's two fighters street and one has a sort of cape attached to the sleeves.

>>4071256
Practice today, I still have a lot to understand

wip

>>4071272
The knees are too high up.

>>4071258
that brush is absolutely not working. its good for edges, but inho it looks to choppy.

>>4071272
rendering before finishing hands. rendering before fixing proportions.absolutely not working.

>>4070790

>>4071289
shut the fuck up i didnt ask you

>>4071362
fuck off, dont pretend youre me

>>4071367

>>4071362
touchy touchy.

copying picture of armor into drawing. absolutely not working.

>>4071399
why?

>>4071399
go the fuck back to /beg/ retard

the absolute state of this board, holy fuck

at what point do you stop adding details and accept the image cannot be improved?

>>4071417
detail =/= quality

should've dropped this in the drafting stage desu

>>4071421
So detail doesn't necessarily mean better. Some ideas look good in a draft, but then they're pushed, they turn into dog shit. this puzzles me.

>>4071407
You post something then, you fuck up. At least tell me what’s wrong with it.

>>4071407
why is everybody mad.

>>4071435
s-stop f-fIGHTING

>>4071438
I just want answers, why am I /beg/, and what do I need to do to improve?

>>4069766
WIP of a little thing. got inspired by album called CALIGULA

>>4071435
>>4071441
i don't need to post anything at all to prove that you need to not post in this thread

/beg/ means beginner and you have absolutely no cues showing you know what the fuck you're doing in the slightest

>>4071441
you're not /beg. its just you didn't post with any description. it was a bunny human with massive massive buck tooth. so the other anon was just confused.

>>4071456
I guess that makes sense, I should have included more context

>>4071452
I "/beg/" to differ. If you’re gonna come at me with insults like that you should at least be able to back up your talk with some work.

>>4071456
you have to be /beg/ as fuck if you think that Rick and Morty-tier rabbit isn't /beg/

>>4071471
Well my goal is to be an animator, so "Rick and Morty tier" isn’t too bad of an insult. Probably a step in the right direction.

>>4071471
Well judging form it's render, I assume that anon has other work that could make us believe they are not BEG.

>>4071470
this didn't take five minutes

>>4071494
So you like bunnies?

>>4071505
its literally the picture the other guy drew, fuck off furfag

wip.

>>4071508
you're just such a friendly little creature aren't you. who hurt you anon?

>>4071494
Well I can’t say I’m not jealous. GG, but seriously what should I do to make my drawings work? Grind out boxes? Practice line control? Trace studies?

>>4071517
now you're attacking him because you realized your art is shit and you belong in /beg/
>>4071449
>>4071272
>>4071144
>>4070956
you faggots fuck off to /beg/ too

>>4071523
>>4071521
>>4071508
>>4071494
>>4071477
>>4071471
>>4071470
>>4071463
>>4071452
literally same person haha.

>>4071530
Because getting into arguments with myself is such a stupendous use of time haha

did a self portrait

update.

>>4071553
cute.

>>4071538
put down the booze.

>>4071553
do you any close friends, Brian?

>>4071523
tough day at work, anon? did boss yell at you too hard today or are you just this spiteful manlet all the time

>>4071580
I'm 6'3" and self employed, so suck my cock

>>4071583
ok incel

>inb4 photobash.

>>4071587
stay mad retard

possibly all down hill from here.

>>4071673
I really had high hopes for this piece. Not everyone’s a winner I guess. Better luck next time dude.

>>4071684
same. it happens every time.

>>4071684
how would you push this?

Mech design for a buddy. Robots are fun.


>>4071673 I kinda like him. Looks like an illustration in a children's educational dinosaur book, in a good way.

>>4071705
cool robot.

>>4071712
Looks good, but I think they need to look wetter.

Critique and advice on this dude I drew. I'm not super good, but I tend to draw men way better than women, even when I practice women a lot more.

>>4071583
Weird flex, but okay

>>4071717
looks handsome and good to me. hmm. Only thing I could tell ya, is his shoulders. they're a little puffy, rounded. His shoulders should be more flat closer to the neck. it might project a stronger pose that compliments his strong jaw line.

first time posting on /draw/

>>4071772
Bird image was done in about 3 miniutes

>>4071770
I like your little boy man! and thanks

Requesting critique on the poses.

>>4071775
thanks senpai. i think im gonna put this in the coffin before i neck myself.

>>4071783
them seem good to me. The poses display her character of a cosplayer, they're a little consistent. try and give her action poses, sitting,sleeping, etc.

A day at the boardwalk in 1910.

Idk

>>4071864
this is really cool anon, blog?

>>4071272

Not sure which of you is the real artist:

>>4071362
>>4071367

Next time go on the FAQ and look up how to make a Secure Tripcode to keep impostors away. I'll assume you're >>4071367 for the sake of this critique.

You must not be very confident in making hands and feet since you rendered everything but the hands and feet. You should approach them at the same time as every other part of the body as it affects the entire gesture of the form. If you have difficulty drawing hands and feet, buy a sketchbook and fill it with 4-5 hands and feet per page. Once you finish that sketchbook, you *will* be better at drawing hands and feet. Also, look up speed painting tutorials of fantasy characters and see when and how they block in areas where you have difficulty, and see what they leave in and what they leave out. Hands and feet are difficult to depict in fantasy or cartoon styles because it's hard to balance which details are important and which ones are unnecessary. In this piece, you can even keep the hands and feet blocky and simple, less rendered than the rest of the piece, and it'll still be fine, but don't neglect them entirely.

>>4071417

Finding the "stopping point" in a piece depends on skill level, purpose, deadlines, patience, or a combination of those and other factors. For concept art, you don't need to push an idea to full detail if you're portraying an atmosphere or scene as a proposition to an employer or customer, or as a reference for yourself when worldbuilding, etc. A piece can still be *effective* in an unfinished state if it serves a purpose outside needing to be a completed work on its own. What you have right there is probably worked as far or further than most concept artists would need to sell their idea of a castle siege scene. There's deadlines and cost involved, and employers don't want you spending more on a piece of concept art than you have to if it's not entirely necessary.

If you want to push this idea further as a finished piece and you don't know how far is too far, I'd say your skill level at the time as well as patience will be the end-all factor of how far you'll work a piece. If you don't know how to make photo realistic figures, or you're tired of working on a piece, call it quits. If it's digital, save it and add more later on when your skill has improved, or if you overwork it and make it look like shit, revert to an old save.

>>4071703

Try adding more contrast, pushing your shadows further and lightening the bright spots. Right now the underbelly of this creature is lighter than some of the bamboo chutes in the background, and it all has a very washed-out watercolor look. If you need a quick way to adjust contrast just to see what works and what doesn't, take the piece into Photoshop or similar photo editing software, use the lasso tool on pieces of the form or background, and making them darker or lighter. This won't be the fix to your piece, but you'll see how sharper contrast affects the piece, and you can then re-paint or paint over it with a darker palette to resolve the issue. You can then narrow inward and start addressing the texture of the creature's skin with finer detail, as besides the lumpy parts on the front haunches, you can't really make out the texture of its hide. It's okay to leave the background areas around the border in less detail than the central focal point of the piece, but try to push the foliage under the creature to a little more detail and sharpness.

>>4071783


These are fine, perfectly passable and useful gesture sketches. What do you think needs improvement?

>>4071772

I own all the books you referenced when drawing these. Understand that people like Andrew Loomis, George Bridgman, and other illustrators of the late 1800's/Early 1900's would often use blockier, more heavy styles in their instructional books that, if taken at face value, lead beginning artists into mimicking their style instead of using the fundamentals provided to develop their own style. What I see in this work is mimicry of instructional art rather than art that takes the information learned from the instructional tutorials and uses it to push their work to the next step. The men who made these books and made these blocky muscular drawings as a means to train your mind to think about the body's form, not as an instructional book on how to draw blocky arms and legs and people exactly as you see them in their books. Don't try to out-Loomis Loomis or out-Bridgman Bridgman by aping their style, use the knowledge they teach you and apply it to your own. This style is way too iconic to ever be adopted by anyone else.

>>4071717

This looks fine, but the pose is very safe and I get the feeling this is the "best one out of the batch", I'd definitely pair it with heads of the same character at different angles and expressions so you can get a full feel for both the character's physical appearance AND the limits of their expressions all in one page. It'll not only show off the breadth of your talent, but it'll also give people a sense of what this character is about, and clues into their personality. It's hard to get a full reading of a character based on one static head-on mute-expression bust. As for technical skill, this is fine, and things like line weight and contrast will improve naturally the more you draw, I have nothing specific about the technical application that I'm concerned about in this piece.

As for drawing women, you may have found out that it's very easy to make a woman look masculine, and rarely do you accidentally make a man look feminine. This is because the sharper, more squared, and jagged the form, the more masculine a character will look. You use very jagged lines which will tend to square the jaws and neck and make women look masculine. Try to keep in mind that women are soft and squishy while men are thick and blocky, and try using rounder lines with more subtle details when trying to capture the female form. Men are blocks, women are curves.

>>4071864


This is very cool use of internal geometry and lines, but it all comes out as terribly flat with no shading to express the contours of these creatures' forms. Try adding simple shading to help make the forms pop, and let the patterns slightly follow the contour of their mass. The fella on the bottom right shows a much better sense of depth and form with the stylistic lined patters than, say, the neck of the creature above it. Try to find a way to make these very cool geometric lines and patters fit on a 3D form similar to the way the bottom right's neck or the far left's scarf does it.

>>4071802
>>4071852
I really like these

I’ve never drawn dragons because I always sucked at it. Now I’m trying to learn how to draw the head but I feel that something is always off, something that makes it not look "cool". Can you help me point it out? Thanks.

>>4072471
This is what I mean with "cool".

I’ve only been drawing for about a month now. How can I improve this? I did this one in about 30-45 minutes yesterday.

>>4072471
try and work in desaturated colors first. it might help. im not a pro but ive seen people do this. then add a overlay lay and add color in after.

>>4072596
start by scanning your work, rather than posting from your glower.

>>4072613
Yeah, I surely have to expand my value range. However my question was more about the design of the head. I’m sure that if I gave my dragon concept to this artist he would turn my crappy design into something beautiful. I want to know what he would do specifically to make the design better.

>>4072471

Your dragon's eyes are facing forward atop a smooth snout with a small brow, much like a dog. The cool dragon's eyes are at the side of the head, are much beadier, and are sunk in beneath MASSIVE protruding brows with large spikes. Your dragon's lower jaw is rounded and smooth like a dolphin's. Cool dragon's jowels are MASSIVE, squared, spiked, and go into giant neck muscles. Your dragon has long flowing locks of white hair. Cool dragon has MORE FUCK-OFF SPIKES. Everything about the cool dragon's physique screams PREDATOR. It's a dinosaur. A monster. It looks like it was made to eat and kill and fuck. Yours looks like it reads books and grants wishes to children. Softer appearances are less threatening. It's basically The Virgin Wyrm vs the Chad Dragon. It's not that dragons can't be whimsical in design, but you said cool and referenced a savage looking dragon, so cool = savage. Shrink the eyes, put them on the side of the head behind massive sockets and brows like a fucking T-rex, square all its features, give it a massive lower jaw, and fill it to capacity with sharp spikes. Give it more dangerous attributes.

>>4072480

Also, yes, having stark ebon scales as black as night which glow from underneath in a faint red like it stands upon the fires of Hell itself, basking in a thick plume of fog and underneath a cloud that's torn asunder with the light of the heavens cascading above is pretty fucking cool too. Give your dragon atmospheric mood.

When you save a sketch or painting in pS. what are your settings for the image. i want to preserve as much of the resolution as possiible and give the view exactly what i see in the pdf file.

also does anybody struggle with adding color/painting? but do fine sketching? its come to my attention i am a poor bastard when it comes to painting and it ruins all of which i have sketched. how can i over come this? what is the proper way to paint over a sketch.what is the first thing you think of as you begin to paint over the sketch.

>>4072729
>>4072733
I don’t think I can get a better response than that. Thank you.

>>4072733
>>4072729
i just noticed your name. kek

>>4072729
I turned it into a chad dragon Faggot senpai.

>>4073134
looks like the tip of a dogs cock decorated as a dragon.

>>4071905
Consistency with the shapes and proportions across the key frames, any wonky anatomy or perspective issues, etc

How could I improve this? What do you think I should be practicing most at the moment? I want to be able to create cool immersive illustrations and stop being so shit.

>>4073134

Yeah that's a cock, dude.

Well done!

>>4073176

Oh, is this going to be an animation?

Nothing wonky at a first glance pops out to me. Unless you see something I don't, these are fine illustrations.

>>4073134

>>4071256
fighters? they look like dancers holding each other. fucking cool though, keep it up. im mirin AND jelly

>>4073283
Wow. I think it’s the second overpaint you do to me kek. In the end mine turned out like that.

>>4073283
>>4073294
still has a dick look.

>>4073294
Please no the shape of the head and the neck

>>4073297
And? Every fucking dragon looks like a dick if you want to see a dick.

>>4073308
hahah holy shit. true. but your tip is way too suggestive. the red is kinky too.

>>4069766
im gonna try to do some lineart and flat colors with this one

>>4070184
Simon Bisley
Sanjulian
Frank Frazetta

Not sure about the last one.

>>4073352
good stuff.

The death of Gustavus Adolphus.

>>4073352
i think im going to redraw most of this, im really disappointed in the body geometry

>>4073176
She looks like a twitch attention whore thot

Thats your biggest flaw, lack of taste

>>4073812
crisis averted...?

>>4073803
i really like this, anon. is it based off a reference? very solid piece

>>4073682
i think you should try to fix up the fella closest to the viewer, most of the attention will be drawn to him. something is weird about the whole head/neck

>>4073680
thanks, i like your picture too but i think you should make the helmet on the guy slightly bigger, it looks like the helmet was clamped to his head. also I would avoid penning in values this early in the game if you plan to make that a colored piece, worry more about form and perspective.

if you're using centered composition like that, i feel like you should try to make the guy in focus seem more imposing, while i like the picture it seems like one of those awkward pictures in a history textbook

>>4073844
No references other than for the clothing/equipment.

>>4073844
okay, but the picture you posted is /beg/ garbage, go back to your containment thread retard

>>4073294

When I said it had a big neck, I meant strong. It also had a different angle. You're getting there, but it still looks very cocklike the way the neck bulges under the jaw and takers under it like a urethra.

>>4073283


This guy gets it.

>>4073294
>>4073297
>>4073308
suck my dick, suck my mutherfuking dick

>>4073844
>>4073866
Not beg garbage. Sorry anon, this thread is full of crabs.

All the key frames are in sequence. Will rough the background in after an early lunch.

about to add black to get value

>>4073839
Such an empty criticism

>>4074623
really good.

>>4073844
>preportions
thanks anon, yeah its fucked. i drew it from memory, first mistake.

>>4074623
Blog?

>>4074724
Thank you.

>>4074738
Here you go.

https://twitter.com/WhiteBox_Studio

started this last night

Having fun using ink pens at the moment, doing fucked up faces from imagination

>>4074513
Good job! Now if you found that enjoyable I suggest you to do the same on EVERY FUCKING dragon pic you can find online. Have fun!

>>4074880

>>4074999
anyone else see this?

>>4069767
making sure the perspective for these wouldall match up would greatly improve it!

>>4070790
focus some more on line weight, your building lacks contrast

>>4071417
the trick is to know where to put it and where to simplify. add the most detail on your focal point(s). this one for example on the action at the wall. if you have one detailed soldier in the foreground and alot more with the same silhoutte in the background would suffice also.

>>4074792
Nice!
>>4074880
has potential!

>>4075008

>>4075009

>>4075004
it's dope man

>>4073844
>>4073812
>>4073352
update

coloring this bitch is gonna be a bitch

>>4075513
just DERR ett.

>>4075521
huh?

i'd like to think this looks good. so ill just pretend its done.

>>4073176
do you have a site that you would recommend for these types of poses? i use quickposes.com but none of them seem good for use in anime or cartooning

>>4075527
love the sense of dimension, the atmosphere and the storm

blog?

>>4075577
sorry anon I don't have one. I only post here. I ran away form social media, deleted everything.

>>4073186
practice drawing and rendering, the compostition is pretty strong but the rendering and drawing aren't as good. Like that wrist looks a lil gummy

>>4073182
so much character!

>>4075582
this is really good though anon. make an instagram at least, even if you just upload things like this once a week i'd still follow you and cheer you on.

>>4075596
I may consider it. But I only have a flip phone lmao. Unless instagram allows users to post from a computer, I might some day. I frequent here weekly.

>>4075612
A cheap but reliable touchscreen phone is only $60, so consider that

otherwise theres ways to emulate phone software from a desktop computer, then you can just run Instagram on that

t. used to catfish stacies in New York using Thad "Thor" Thundercum

Here’s a quick sketch and wondering on what you all think?

What do you all think of this?

meh

boats

>>4069973
Its pretty cool, anon. But tell to the right guy to not skip the legs day.

Some more cyborg design in the works.

>>4073803
Pretty dope anon

>>4075527
I like your attitude, but that compositions isn't working very well. You have lots of shapes that dont interact, and arrows that point nowhere. The big flowing masses in the sky are a nice contrast to all the other straight lines, but they also lack overlap and direction. Your values are a bit off too, the background should be way lighter. That being said, the waterline is really delicious. Keep working, look into perspective and composition more and do lots of thumbnails before next time.

I feel I'm doing something wrong with the pose here but can't pinpoint what the exact issue is. Crits would be appreciated a lot.

>>4075771
I like it, but the energy beam looks like a spit wad. Not crazy enough to be an insane gust of wind, but not showy enough to be a space age energy beam.

>>4075771
>>4076228
In addition, there should be some effect from where the beam shot out to make it look as if it's got a decent impulse.

>>4076161
thanks. this is really helpful. ill work on perspective senpai

>>4076228
you're right. i continplated doing this aswell, but i thought, well would a meteorite cause a flame if it entered the planet form a portal, its not coming through the ozone layer. but i need to add dust and as you said energy behind it, to impose a more larger impact. t-thanks senpai

Did some gesture studies earlier today then messed around with coloured pencils :]

>>4076230
>impulse
added impression of impulse. gust.more movement.

>>4073308
isn't "purple dinosaur" a way to call it

>>4072471
chinese dragons have vaguely feline heads rather than reptilian like european dragons

I want to be able to produce gorgeous inked things. Not really entirely inked pieces but moreso an appealing template for rendering. I know lines and inks are one of those things you just improve at by doing more of, but is there anything I can do or keep in mind to speed up my progress?

>>4076409
Looks better. But I mean kind of like a gun shot "pow" effect from the starting area. Because you've got residue, smoke or whatever from the original shot that's not just going to immediately vanish.
Also out of taste, I'd make the missile thinner. Scale wise it's hard to believe that projectile came out of that ship just like that. Making the missile thinner and a smoke pow effect from the starting area serves to both make it feel like it has more impact and momentum, and hide the scale difference and lack of a visible weapon more believable.

From a distance it looks like a bizarre album cover, actually.

>>4076558
theres no mystery to making pictures. if you want tpo see improvment you need to find out what you want to improve first. we cannot tell you. once you find out what, look for reference. apply the fundementals to your work, from your reference. example. if you wanted more realistic colors, find some animal paintings and literally copy it. apply it onto your own image.if you want to see better results you should study old master paintings.

>>4069766
I decided to put this in PS, mess around with levels and try to colour it digitally because I suck at colouring

>>4073866
you really this mad about a critique my dude lmao?

a sculpture study

color study.

did a Rembrandt study. probably going to do another one.

fuck my wife

photo study

>>4076823
>>4077005
>>4077192
>>4077201
>>4077249
I love all of these so much damn

I coloured a sketch for fun

>>4077249
>>4077192
>>4077005
>>4076161

eww digital

>>4077272
Don't like all this digital stuff, everythings digital now, I feel that when art turns digital the realness of it gets lost, it misses the human element, its a shame, digital is so plastic.

>>4077272
>>4077278
I'm happy you guys can share your opinion. I on the other hand love digital artwork and by no means would ever try to alter anyones opinion. Imagine if somebody tried to argue with your opinion? How irrational would that be?

I need critic on a lot of things for improvement. I want to go superior qualities like Realistic Mario, Megaman, DK, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZcNuEQEZYw and other artist that made super expert style designs like majority of Pixiv people. I know I'm aiming too high for it, but I'm struggling with the hair for one, and color theory about it.

>>4074623
Do you "box" the character in order to draw her in perspective?

>>4077449
>>4075390

last study for today. Albert Bierstadt.

>>4072471
i want in on the dragon shitposting too

>>4077606

My new aesthetic is to take the photos from this site's captchas and badly edit them into my drawings as background elements

>>4077005

>>4077519

>>4075008
>focus some more on line weight, your building lacks contrast
yea it wasn't inked at that point but I wanted thin lines. Going to the lake tomorrow but it won't look much like this

>>4077663
This dragon looks funny

>>4075942
good composition

>>4077663
>>4077685
I thought it was a snake blasting taco bell shit out of its butthole