/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

Finally, a beg thread. What happened? Are they going extinct little by little?

I'm approximately halfway through Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain and it is making me irrationally angry. Should I quit and start reading another book? Am I simply misunderstanding the book? Is my brain simply not made for drawing?

>>4058444
No we just don't make new ones the very second we are past the bump limit.

Does the face look any better like this?

>>4058495
she looks like she is making a puff face. What is the logic you are using here construct anon?

>>4058503
Logic? Perhaps I might suffer from lack thereof. It might be that I make the bottom half of the face too long leaving too much space between the bottom of the nose and chin, though I'm not completely sure if that's the problem. Will try adjusting that.

>>4058521
Honestly I think you would just need to find the place of the cheekbones where it looks alright. On >>4058495 I think the main problem that the nose is above the cheekbones which is is backwards. The nose should be at the same level as the cheekbone area or at least close to it but on yours it is almost at the level of the mouth.

>>4058535
I didn't really consider these. Thanks anon.

thoughts on this torso study? I feel I have a hard time pinpointing how the ribcage affects the shadows

>>4058494
The whole day there wasn't any beg thread my d00d.

>>4058572
too simple but if you are at that level is ok.
Also is no much point in fo the torso because is nothing there actually, only the boobs, an if you want to do the conections to the arms and neck, then you should focus on that instead, in the muscles and construction of the neck and the armpits, thats why i said was simplistic.

>>4058580
B-but it was, it is here
>>4054734
OP post even has a link to it

>>4058485
You shouldn’t start another book, this book imo is not hard and if you try to learn something else without even knowing how to see you are just asking for more frustration.
Yeah you are misunderstanding the book because the one thing it tries to teach you is that everyone can learn to draw what they see. It even makes several examples of the drawings people made before and after using the techniques.
You should stick with it and complete ALL the exercises until you get it, and you WILL get it.

>>4058585
I was checking first two pages all day and haven't seen any beg threads until this one popped up.

Five values study I did. The photo was traced. What can be improved?

How many hours a week do I need for art? I’m not going to make a living off art but I want this to become my hobby.

Any idea of how many hours a week would be good? Is it also possible to practice while talking to friends on discord

>>4058617
Just do as much as you like just make sure you do something daily.

Getting there..

>>4058629
Would an hour or so 5 days a week be too little?

>>4058635
Not at all just relax Anon don1t stress about it. Trust me once you get into it you will enjoy it and automatically devote more time to it. You said you just want it as a hobby so it was supposed to be fun. Just make a habit for drawing stuff every day when you start out.

>>4058611
Blend the values for smooth transitions

>>4058611
Did you do this with a mouse? Otherwise you you needa learn to blend. Unless you were going for just hard shapes in which case learn how to control your edges.

>>4058635
>>4058617
2 hours of only practice if you want to see any results or just do>>4058638 and be forever a ngmi

>>4058609
Use the catalog you mongo

where can i find some art firends to chat when while praticing together??

>>4058609
Newfag. Who even uses pages anymore? Just use the catalog.

>>4058774
on reddit

What are good daily practices. i've been doing the drawabox lines, planes, ellipses and so on, but that takes a while. What should I thin it down to?

Call me retarded, but where do I get started with figure drawing? I've heard all these names being thrown about and it confuses my tiny brain. I want to learn how to fucking draw so I can make this magnum opus I have in my brain a reality, God damnit.

>>4058786
draw a box , pick any anatomy book, gesture it doesn't matter by who

I'm farming figure drawing, hopefully if I add animations to my brain my illustrations will be less stiff

Could use some critique on my piece, total /beg/ here. Should I color/shade my paper girl or should I just draw more? I posted in towergirls but I wasn't getting replies, probably due to being a /beg/
Its supposed to be princess book...

This is my absolute tip top number one waifu, i started drawing because there wasnt enough fanart of her. Thanks for reading my blog

>>4058822
I may be an amateur, but I can tell you that your art that you've drawn is akin to those "How to Draw Anime/Manga" books from the early 2000's. I expect a better piece on my desk in the next three days.

Are there any books about just drawing forms and connecting them? Like spheres and cubes and stuff. Every book glosses over this and doesn't provide exercises, but it's what I really need to practice.

>>4058832
trash

>>4058847
I should add that if you have a book that covers this topic well but isn't dedicated to it, that'd be good too

Used a reference for the ol smudge but I think we're getting somewhere... I was getting to weirdly abstracted on my figures for a bit to long. Figured I'd try go back to the basics for a while then work towards the odd stuff again.
Any thoughts?

>>4058860
if you're still around tomorrow i'll see what to recommend you

>>4058884
thanks anon

>>4058835
Thanks anon. Didn't have this pad very long, but I'll try to produce better.
(Kicks self in the Loomis and continues to draw to get gud)

>>4058725
He said it's a hobby, you dumbo.

>>4058786
I suggest loomis, all of his books are free in the sticky. But you should have started with figure drawing already if you have been making your way through the sticky.

Note: it may seem daunting, but only about half of the sticky will be applicable (since it splits into digital and physical)

I've decided i've been doing this wrong. I'm going to take 2 weeks off when I go on holiday tomorrow, then i'm going to start again.

>>4058963
Wait, no, this is silly, I'll practice my lines, planes, ellipses and boxes, then i'll start with Hamptons

>>4058971
gmi

>>4058963
>2 weeks off
That's an eternity for not drawing anything

>>4058413
My very first watercolor. Small issues with blend from grass to stone, uneven blending on warrior head. Any glaring issues I can easily fix that aren’t related to 9001 hours of practice?

>>4058822
Good job anon. Study basic form and perspective more. Don't worry too much about anatomy right now that comes after. Try drawing this again but with only with basic forms and no rendering.

>>4058832
how much of a /beg/ are you?

>>4059002
You can resize.

>>4059061
Maybe I’m terminology retarded, but do you mean make the subject larger in the paper? I was going to do more, add background, etc, but decided against it because i decided it would be best to practice gradient for skies first.

>>4059073
He means not uploading a 2 MB file too big to fit in the browser. Open the image in paint or whatever and physically make it smaller.

>>4059073
>RESIZE YOUR IMAGES TO ~1000 PIXELS
its in the sticky dude

How do I stop being lazy in my portraits? It's hard to keep myself motivated enough to observe and measure and I end up just mindlessly doodling.

>>4059133

>>4059133
Are you the guy who only drew portraits and occasionally big bulge bara guys but said he isn't gay that was around like a year or two ago?

>>4059143
No that guy was a loser, I am definitely not him.

i like to think im improving my basic anatomy knowledge.

>>4059002
I like it. Perspective's okay but not much to compare it to. I wish the snakes (?) were more symmetrical. You should definitely be more careful with things like grass blades. Since you drew each blade of grass it's hard to go from that to simple flat green. Try to clump things together next time.

>>4058413
I don't know how to make this image smaller without ruining it.

>>4058822
- Find a good tilted setup that works for you. Your drawing looks stretched vertically and a bad setup is often a reason why.
- Use guide center lines coming from the head to the bottom of the pelvis, from the shoulders to the wrist and from the pelvis to ankles to help you figure out where everything will go then use basic shapes like cubes, cilinders, squares, triangles etc to add volume before you add detail. This way you have time to fix things before committing to the design.

You'll probably find this stuff in Loomis.
Good luck.

(Repost.) Okay, I've been drawin' stuff for a few years and this would be the first reference vs. memory after my artfight duties. Yes, I traced its structure before going into rough sketching of her body.

>>4059251

>>4059251
>a few years

>>4059026
say for yourself

When should I use smoothing on my brush in photoshop? I feel like it helps in some cases, but hinders in others.

>>4058832
Started drawing for the same reason, bud. It sucks having a wife from a show that aired 14 years ago.

>tfw eating snacks while practicing fundies
Soon I'll be joining /big/ too.

>>4058886

Essentially, there's nothing *specifically* on this as it's usually a part of perspective courses or whatever. I hope you got a CG Peers account; if not, look into registering.

Your shopping list should roughly include:

Perspective Made Easy ( Ernest Norling ) - has a bunch of perspective exercises

How to Draw ( Scott Robertson ) - shit's anything but a how-to, use it as a reference textbook and not something to go through cover to cover, it's about as dense as an engineering primer

Drawabox (it's on reddit) - the first few lessons deal with abstract form and shapes in perspective and not animals and shit, so it's okay

Erik Olson's NMA Perspective course - probably the MOST comprehensive overview of perspective I've seen in the past four years. Courses 1-10 and 11-16 are on CGPeers. They're divided like that according to Aguri's 1 year to git gud guide, but nvm that.

You should go and independently research books on industrial design and car drawing books/videos (Scott Robertson has like a quadrillion of these)

And worst of all none of these will do exactly what you want them. You have to learn how to study these things yourself. Wanna learn how to extrude shit out of other shit? Watch a few perspective videos, download Google SketchUp, and start studying your weaknesses from "real" life

>>4059288
if you can draw with a pixel pencil brush, you can draw with the tackiest bullshit imaginable
don't rely on crutches

>>4058832
woah ! thats pretty cute anon. post more art of your waifu !!

>>4059317
when I say shopping list I mean piracy list anon don't actually spend money on free things

>>4059295
Come to London. My fetish is being a feeder to my artsy bf.

>>4059275
Yeah, I'm decent when it comes to sketching out toony characters, still practicing on human ones.

>>4059335
Yes, even I doodle stylistic animals

>>4059337
Any suggestions for improvement?

any tips on how to make my artsyle look like this?

>>4059333
Thanks anon but i don't want to be acid attacked while held at knifepoint i'll stick to my eastern european crackpot

>>4059339
not much without knowing what you want to achieve

but e.g. don't shade with purple ffs learn some colour theory

>>4059347
fall and hit your head on a rock
also lots of filters atop an anime drawing
it's mostly the filters and masks
the art style is middle school grader tier

>>4059347
1. Copy one piece.
2. Make your own original piece while trying to make it look like the style you want.
3. Go to 1 if not satisfied.

>>4059355
as for the ref v. memory thing?

>>4059355
why are you so fucking angry lol

>>4059319
Give me the 8th grade explanation.

should i skip the expressions part in loomis and just go right to the ball with chopped sides thing?

>>4059428
Do what you will.

Roast me.

And is the size of the picture okay?

I suck so much I wish my brain was capable of improvement.

>>4059446
Baby steps my dude

>>4059443
garbage, but you made clean lines thats good i guess

>>4058630
What else are you studying while doing this?

how do you anons get something you would like to draw?
i feel like i study and dont know what to do with it besides that

are you retarded?why did you even started to draw in the first place

>>4059451
Any advice?
Im about to start the drawabox perspective part and reading some of the loomis books now

test

>>4059461
Right now I just do negative space exercises by drawing from life (simple objects like my shoes, lamp, cup, vase etc) in order to train my perception of shapes and angles. I also practice very basic stuff like boxes in perspective, ovals, curves, circles etc freehanded
I probably should be studying how to shade/render with pencil but whatever. I'll do that later.

>>4059467
Stick to simple shapes and basic objects such as boxes, cylinders and eggs before you start delving into human forms. Trust me on this one.

>>4059443
> roast me
Stop trying to hide your insecurities behind "le do your worst b" bullshit.

But since you asked...

your anatomy is shit
zero sense of perspective
your hands are shit

Stop trying to draw anime and go back to reading the sticky. You lack literally every single fundamental starting from lines. Drawing anime doesn't excuse you from knowing the basics.

>>4059476
gmi

>>4059487
That's what I'm striving for

Downloaded the Dynamic Sketching courses and gotta ask if its recommended for a beginner like me? If not then I can just do the first lesson to better my line control.

Such control will transfer to using other tools like brushes and pencils, right?

>>4059502
Its beginner friendly.

>>4059476
What's a negative space exercise?

>>4059525
Just use google, fren.

>>4058638
Thanks anon :)

hey bros, been working on getting better. as always, crit and feedback welcome and appreciated

sorry, forgot to resize last time. crit and feedback appreciated

>>4059529
This is useless when drawing from imagination

>>4059550
Yes? Who said to do it from imagination?
I literally stated that I was doing negative space exercises by drawing from life.

>>4059550
oh no no no

>>4059553
I didn't say anything wrong. Why are you so offended you stupid bitch.

>>4059555
To be honest, I'm quite baffled by this post
You're assuming that I'm offended and you're lashing out for no reason whatsoever
Seems to me that you're the one who is quite offended in this case.

>>4059485
Okay
I have no electricity for some time now so i can't look at too many things with my phone never actually watched the videos in there but I will now congratulations. and the roast me part was more to bait out answers thanks

>>4059465
i draw stuff i have in my home and sometimes i use google images to get random shit.

>>4059539
I like her tits.

>>4059560
crabby day today

>>4058617
As much time as literally possible

>>4059338
is this good

>>4059582
you draw like caliborn

>>4059465
I've got so many ideas for porn I want to draw. Just need to practice for three years and I can do it.

So I heard this is a great book for drawing people, especially from imagination since i want to draw fanart. But as a beginner, should I work on some fundamentals before tackling this and if so, which ones?

Hello Ic I've been working on gesture as of late ive gotten a lot better and started to realize it's not about outlines etc. Can I work on going to landmarks and other figure drawing while doing gesture. I just find that maybe I need to understand the body a bit more to improve my gestures.

>>4059600
pyw

>>4059145
Don't be so hard on yourself...
If you want patience practice try hardings lessons to drawing. It's somewhere in the artbook thread ^.^

>>4059594
good lines,perspective and forms
doing these will do the work
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GWzvpbRnAQ

>>4059594
probably the best thing you can do as a beginner is drawing still life. draw multiple objects in one scenes, it is important to be able to draw things in relation to each other. draw your bedroom floor with articles of clothing laying around, meticulously creating the folds in the fabric. draw a bookshelf or desk from multiple angle and note how much larger the closer side appears and the seemingly impossible angles the edges make

>>4059615
Gotcha, will work on those three. As for the vid, I've seen this guys stuff before but was always cautious if I should practice what he teaches. Will give it a shot.

>>4059617
Sounds like observational drawing. Got Keys to Drawing for that. Bit boring but its not a big a problem as not having the materials and subject to draw on hand ( as the books suggests). But Your idea sounds fun so I guess I can adapt those exercises to what I have around me.

destroy me bros

>>4059644
marbling grey and black isnt the same as thoughtful rendering

>>4059611
I know they aren't great but I've improved quite a bit I just think maybe learning more about proportions will help a bit. I've been forcing myself to use less lines and they are way less chicken scratched that I was.

>>4059317
I appreciate the help. I will save this post to a text file and cherish it with my life.

>>4059678
not as bad as i thought, but you still need some work. if you wanna see how an amazing artist does these, Michael Hampton now has a yt channel where he has a few gesture-with-some-structure videos

get his book (libgen.is has it), no need to go blind

>>4059682
have you seen Aguri's One Year to Git Gud guide? probably a good reference for planning your own art journey

>>4058572
Why no abdomen?

>>4059706
I do have it. I was just wondering should i spend like 2 more weeks because his book only covers gesture for 10 or so pages. And idk it's fun and I've gotten lot better in a week. And I'm aware I find that my big weak point is not a good grasp on proportions. Just confused if I keep trying to get perfect gestures will I be spending too much time on something that could be improved if I went forward on torso studies. Thanks I'm open to any type of suggestion. Prokos gesture vids did help but I like Hamptons they are more expressive I'll check it out.

>>4059653
Thanks lad, but unfortunately I didn't get what you meant by that, I kind of did the shading instinctively. Anyway, I appreciate the reply.

>>4058881
Just bumping this, trying to get feedback. /-.-\

can a kind anon red line my work? it looks like shit and i wanna get better. it is a female with muscular boyish figure if i was unable to be clear in my work. in particular, id like to better learn how to better draw legs and hips properly if possible. Thank you in advance!

>>4059644
>knee cave
It pisses me off every time a jap stands like that. It's not cute.

>>4059763
Maybe it's because your lines are very messy,or maybe it's because I'm blind,but it seems like the bottom of the chin to the abdominals is ignoring the 8 heads rule

>>4059779
hm. youre right about the rule. i wanted her to appear squat. but but i suppose it looks odd by the proportions given.lol thanks friend

>>4059763
but why she has a beard?also it looks more like a man than a girl

>>4059825
lol i didnt see it that way. i was trying to go for the crinkling and leathering of her skin since she is burned constantly in the face.
pic related is like the wrinkling of skin i wanted to go for. as for her looking more manish, yeah, i want her to look masculine withtrace femininity. a kind of reverse trap but not really?

>>4059840
>>4059825
lol im a fail. heres a better image

>>4059147
How long did it take for you to get here? What book are you using?

I eel like I should just restart but I'm not sure.Also,should I try to draw the relationship between body parts on the refrence image,or is that not going to help me improve my observational skills

I feel like I'm getting nowhere when I do studies like this

hunter x hunter TSE sketch

>>4059934
Focus on something specific you're trying to figure out rather than copy. And try and use what you learned by doing it again from imagination, doesn't have to be the exact same but uses the info you just went over.

So should I start with drawing with the right side of the brain and then proceed to Loomis and stuff?

>>4059906
You should learn to draw with your eyes.

how do i make proper line art? everytime i finish sketching i stop since making a line art makes it way shittier than it already is.

whats the secret in getting a good line?

>>4060120
wtf am i seeing from her neck and Below

>>4060126
Looks like she's in a fighting stance with boxing gloves

>>4059906
Start thinking in 3 D S P A C E

just started reading keys to drawing. the bell pepper isnt as round as the ref and the eye and nostril of the parrot could go up. How bad am I symbol drawing?

>>4059356
But I don't like One Piece

>>4060133
Useless comment

>>4060144
Okay then how about practicing drawing forms in various angles and lenses in space?

>>4060136
you are good at copying now draw something from imagination

>>4060151
Now look at that. You can actually give constructive advice

Do you guys recommend starting with "fun with a pencil" even if you're not remotely interested in cartoonish stuff? Anime stuff, or realistic things to learn, but I'm really not liking the style so far..

I'm not being lazy but if there's another beginner resource for construction you know of it'd be helpful/appreciated

Tips for anatomy in perspective? Crits?
Also find it difficult to make clean, nice looking drawings since i always
stack details on top of a light drawing or ink stuff later.
Does that just come with practice or is there something I can practice to help with that?

right plateau , any tips

>>4060170
Start by getting good at drawing figures from observation first before you worry about extreme perspectives and spend too much time learning anatomy in-depth. You're getting ahead of yourself.

>>4060182
who no hands or feet?

>>4060164
Marshall Vandruff's perspective course isn't necesarily about consteruction, but what you learn about form in it will help a lot

Critique pls. Been rusty af and trying to start drawing again

>>4059934
I've done a study of this exact painting. What is your goal? Mine was training my eye to see value groupings and color. Your proportions are a bit off, but if that's not your goal, don't worry about it this time.

>>4060229
Draw big. No one wants to critique a footnote.

>>4060170
have you tried reading some perspective books?

i usually never use vanishing points and instead i use boxes but is not as accurate as vps but isnt that bad either

but before going into perspectiver you need to know in deep about whatever the fuck you are about to draw because even if your landmarks are 100% correct and you dont know shit about what are you drawing it will come as trash, right now i can see that your fundies are garbage desu theres no point for you trying perspective because your anatomy right know is below beg even if you master perspective it wouldnt matter because your knowledge about anatomy is bad


*snip*

>>4060217
it's dumb but i have no idea what a hand or leg looks like at that angle

>>4060136
Not bad.

Try to get even more detail in. Like the bellpepper has a lot of texture on the skin and the parret has really interesting patterns that flow over the forms. It will make your drawings less flat.

But you're doing well.

>>4059485
It's the "If I hit myself maybe they won't hit me quite as hard" mentality. I know it too well.

>>4060257
Thanks so much, I know I'm a bit of a beg but I'm improving a lot and taking it seriously.
I really appreciate the answer and semi-redline its actually super helpful, I've read a few and practised but I'm starting to go freehand (maybe too early).
Have any recommendations for beginning anatomy or should I follow what >>4060212 said and focus on that first? Thanks lad.
(pic: quick self portrait for your efforts)

So who has cuter girls, Proko or NMA?

>>4060409
nma has way thiccer and cuter girls. not even a competition

>>4058847
kek mega italy

Veeery light sketch which I will refine later (uploading now in case I fuck up)

>>4060427
Middle of the top row, I need a fucking name (and a paper towel)

I don't know what the fuck I'm doing but atleast I'm having fun I guess?

Trying to get some gesture down and then working out how to construct the forms on top of it.

Really I would just like to know whether or not they actually look like 3d shapes or if it still just looks like flat scribbles.

I know I also need to pay more attention to the refs because that second one is all kinds of inaccurate.

Feedback on this? Based on someone else's OC - original posted in reply to this post.

Particularly looking for feedback regarding:
- pulling off the style
- general drawing mistakes

Thanks anons.

>>4060501
Original.

Any instructions/tips on drawing a head onto an already drawn body?

>>4060126
i didnt really bother to finish it so i dont know either

>>4060499
I think you should also pay attention to negative space

This can be seen in the photo on the right vs your drawing of the photo.The distance between the main body and the arm are far greater in the photo than they are in your drawing

(I'm not sure if I properly communicated what I was trying to say,but I hope you get what I mean)

>>4060519
Thanks for the reply man and I know what you mean.

The reason it turned out like that was because I couldn't wrap my head around the pose, the shapes that would comprise it and how they would work in 3d space. Shit got muddled up and I improvised.

If you look at the ref the hips are pretty much side on but if you look at my drawing it's like you're looking down at them at a 3/4 view. This kind of lead to me doing the whole drawing in that sort of view.

Ofcourse now that I say this and look at it I realise that that doesn't work with how I drew the feet and legs. Also on the left side I think I drew the shins too short and thighs too long.

Can anyone else see any big fuck-ups?

I really need to study how all the bits actually fit together.

Reminder that only ngmis use 3d shapes to construct 3d things. Real artists use flat triangles just like video cards.

Isn't restating just a nicer name for chicken scratching?

>>4060510
Put it on top of the neck.

It should be about as big vertically as the distance between the pecks and the belly button and as large horizontally as about 80% of the distance between the nipple. It should have the depth about as big as the thigh's depth.

i'll make it
you'll see

>>4060610
No. First of all, chicken scratching refers to the final product... restating is for finding the line. Second, you can restate a line without chicken scratching. If you have a line that's not chicken scratched and you replace it with another, more accurate line that's not chicken scratched, you've successfully restated without chicken scratching

>>4060614
Same. Let's do this, fren

>>4060462
I think that's Lilias breh

>>4058881
your proportions are hellish but you're getting there
the left one is badly misproportioned like a WoW gnome (adult body with child proportions) while the right goes to hell from the waist up. i actually suggest you do a tracing study of some things you like to see their proportions

>doing studies using a website for random references
>random model is blimp fat, or just overweight enough that I can't see most of the muscles/bones

Should I just skip these or is it better to learn how to handle them now?

>>4060659
drawing fat is necessary, just do it and stop being a pussy

>>4060462
I hope the paper towel is to draw, you filthy NGMI

>>4060659
If you want to draw bones and muscles why don't you just download some anatomy application instead?

There's this for artists: https://www.proko.com/skellyapp/

Also these: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.catfishanimationstudio.MuscularSystemLite&hl=en_US

This for windows: https://www.visiblebody.com/anatomy-and-physiology-apps/human-anatomy-atlas (here's an untested link of the 7.4 version: https://www.mediafire.com/file/bw9jrdt9lkj8nse/Universitario_da_Depress%25C3%25A3o_-_Visible.Body.Human.Anatomy.Atlas.v7.4.01-DVT.rar/file))

>get a good groove going
>sketch looks great
>time to line
>slowly begin to hate linework
>slowly begin to hate piece
>decide to put it on the backburner
>never finish it
help

>>4060652
Thanks bro

>>4060665
Sure if you mean drawing with my dickbrush in white gauche.

>>4060685
drawabox

Butt

>>4060704
her chest/ribcage, the pit line and the right leg are fucked up


YIKES

>>4060182
idk if you can tell, but the lumbar spine is stretched too far. With the way the forward tilt is working, there should be more of a compression in the abs. It's a very minute mistake, overall this is pretty great. Your anatomy knowledge def dwarfs mine.

>>4060704
Why is her right leg half the width of her left? Does she have autism?

>>4060709
>>4060718
Its not digital or pencil, once fucked could not be repaired

>>4060699
>gave up at the 250 box challenge
fuck why did i quit i havent been doing anything better
should I start over or pick up where i left off, its been 1.5 months

My ellipses look like SHIT

>>4060765
get an ellipse guide

>>4060765
Draw from your shoulders.

>>4060749
Just pick up where you left off. You can't 'master' any of those exercises, you just learn their intent of the thing and move on, and occasionally you'll revisit the exercises that will help you with your weaknesses.

>>4060632

>>4060461
I ruined it. Oh well, next piece will hopefully be better.
Maybe I should research what kind of paper and pen Nomura uses although I don't think the matter of medium makes so much difference.

>>4060781
sure

of course a lefty is gonna be triggered

>>4060804
sheldon borenstein draws with girl scout cookies and milky ways, the medium doesn't fucking matter

>>4060844
https://youtu.be/fQ4NsCqZ_T4?t=44

Holy hell anons, if you're digitally drawing on Photoshop go get Clip Studio Paint, the lines' difference is like heaven and hell. I don't think I need to create a second layer and re-do the lineart, it's serviceable enough on the first go while PS is way more pixelated and jaggy.

I'll try doing something more dynamic though, just a face doesn't do it.

>>4060853
are you drawing with a mouse? it looks like shit

how do i learn the fundamentals while still having fun

>>4060883
Sometimes you don't. You'll most likely run into parts of drawing that you don't enjoy. You just gotta endure it.

and what fundamentals should i start with if the end goal is to be able to draw good anime titties

Learn how to give me a (You) and I'll tell you newfaggot.

>>4060887
>>4060894
fuck off and tell me

>>4060499

>>4060860
>Looks serviceable enough
>"It looks like shit"
Gee anon way to contradict me. But it'd be much worse on photoshop, that's my point. The thick brush makes it look intentional to me, I see a lot of pixiv anime sketches like that with thick line weight and some messyness that makes it look like they did it quickly. Of course they know how to draw better than me but it's the same principle.

>>4060903
>that hand is going straight up her butt nin my example. it's an improvement of sorts i guess
oh my god i lost

>>4060685
Wait till you get to colouring. You gonna love inking.

>>4060903
Quality redlining. We need more people like you.

>>4060229
It's flat jabroni you'll never really see a face like in that view in real life, and also the neck on males is widest behind the ears

>>4060409
NMA for sure, Carlotta and Nikki are god tier, not only girls but guys too, you ever seen Jee's poses?

>>4060765
Draw them in a square that's in whatever perspective you need it to be in

>>4060883
Draw things you like duh. Ig you like military thungs draw tanks and artillery qand even guns. All the fundamentals are in these basic objects that are made up of the same shapes you can find in the human body.

how much loomis do i need?

>>4061085
you aren't beg what the f-
*looks at the left trap*
all the way back to keys of drawing

Could anyone red line the arms for me? I can't seem to get them right.

Would also like to make the shirt actually look good but I lack rendering skills on fabric.

Thanks

>>4061110
anon i...

>>4061114
K.

Would prefer constructive criticism and redlining than memes please.

>>4061119
here's your redline

>>4061126
Doesn't really help me though. I'm sure if I stick with it on my own I can figure it out but I'd prefer some actual critique.

If you want to just shitpost that's fine I guess.

>>4061126
Actually take that back anon. This actually helped. Thanks.

I'm gonna FUCKING MAKE IT

>>4061131

>>4059615
not him is this person legit, and is this method a good one? Really don't qant to get bad habits by following bad tutorials

>>4060903
Saving this

>>4061085
>>4061110
Stop posting on /beg/

>>4061110
I tried. You need a lot more than just the arms, the torso is squished incredibly small pretty much everything under the chin is squished like he would be turning into a midget. The parts of the face are misplaced and do not align, the arm is too short or in a weird angle and you cannot move your hand into that position.

The hair is nice and you placed the ear well, to add some positives too it.

>>4061180
Thanks for this anon. I really appreciate it.

>>4061180
don't fucking redline for another 3 years

>>4061180
yeah that's gonna be yikes for me chief

>>4061187
Well I tried as I said, how about you do it as well ?

>>4061189
>>4061187
t. bitter losers who don't want anon to improve.

>>4061180
That being said however, the arm on the right is broken, other than that you did a good job

What was the name of that book that gets posted here a lot that teaches you to draw a load of stuff? Like just random crap. It had orange cover I think.

>>4061164
>A normal portrait study is now considered not /beg/
Either the level in the past year has gotten so low or you're a genuine fucking retard.

>>4061180
I think you should've left the face out. Not sure it's that of a good idea to redline a face with a completely different style.

Just started some anatomy practice. Already having a hard time with the hand. Drawing with a high blood sugar is a pain in the ass.

>>4061272
Keep looking at the reference at all time, next time the body won't be 3ft tall

>>4061250

At this point I don't really know how to paint and everytime I do paint I get really harsh comments, so I just stopped.
This is purposely horrible anatomically btw, I- I swear!

>>4061279
For the record that's not the full canvas, the rest of the gesture line is cut off. Don't worry I'm very aware that she has lower legs lol

>>4061272
did you even learned anatomy in the first place?

>>4061285
your art would look super cool in a horror game though

>>4061285
I think that looks really nifty. And keep painting m8 dont give up cause of some comments.

>>4061272
dude what the fuck

>>4061290

I got a similar comment on a painted drawing here some days ago (said with other intentions though), it almost feels like you saw the post and remember the style (feels, feels, i'm not saying you did). Even if not, this makes me feel comfy, although lately i'm trying to make more ''cute'' drawings, still failing, but trying (too scared to try anime so I just draw big eyed people instead).
>>4061285

Thanks! I got a lot of time ahead, so even If I made shittier drawings (not that they are thaaat good, but practice is always for the better) I wouldn't give up.
but seriously, thanks.

>>4061272
Start with more ''normal'' poses, this girl feels straight out of The Exorcist

Try this site out! You'll love it

http://reference.sketchdaily.net/

Keep drawing!

>>4061312
>this girl feels straight out of The Exorcist
How so?

Hi /beg/ I'm a beginner when it comes to digital and I have absolutely no idea how to color anything. I'm using sai by the way but have Photoshop too (If thats easier?) I tried coloring one of the arms on this character, but it was so tedious, and it doesnt even look good with this style. Do you guys know any tutorials for coloring on either software that would suit the drawing I'm doing. I know you guys are suited more to anatomy, but I hope you can help!

Also any criticisms on the drawing would be nice

>>4061305
fuckfuckfuckfuck, in the second paragraph I was meant to put >>4061294 instead of >>4061285

>>4058413

why even bother

>>4061335
I’m learning to draw cartoons too, does tracing actually help that much?

>>4061339
What's the issue anon. I honestly feel like this in all aspects of life other than drawing?

>>4061340
No? Not at all, if your goal as an artist is to be able to copy a frame of donald duck then continue, otherwise study human anatomy and apply it to cartoons like everyone else

>>4061339
don't, just leave

>>4060903
Thanks for this my man!

>placing things correctly in 3d space
Yeah tell me about it. Explained in this post, >>4060552, how bad it fucks me up.

Again man thanks. I'll definitely do some of those box exercises and see if it helps wrap my head around it.

>>4061319
ARGGHHH, I´ve got nothing to help you with that problem, but I didn't want to leave your drawing with 0 replies. In general I loved the entire drawing and the clothings and the design and the expression and everything, looks great even with plain colors.

The texture of her left arm looks leathery, but I understand that it doesn't go with your style, and still I don't know what you should do to make it look better, yeah, that was all

>>4061342
>study human anatomy
>cartoons

i'm having this really annoying problem with my tablet can somebody help me? i've already tried reinstalling the drivers but nothing, its not mapping either

>>4061409
Yeah, applying human proportions basics to cartoons is almost always needed, no matter the style, what did you not understand?

I've got a bunch of heads and hands I've been working on for a bit. Pointers?

>>4061406
Thank you very much anon, I appreciate the feedback. I'm very new to digital so I'm sure I'll get the hang of coloring eventually. I'll try and find some tutorials tomorrow if /beg/ cant help

Heads again. 2/5

more heads again. 3/5

>>4061409
oh man, your ignorance just makes you look really stupid. yes
>study human anatomy
>cartoons
>Do it

>>4061164
Imagine drawing so shitty that when you see someone posting beginner-level artwork you feel like they're not and they're superior

Now for my hands. 4/5

And the last of my hands. I hate spamming the thread sometimes, but I've got work to show, dammit. Also, if I were to study hands would studying characters with a focus on hands be a good idea? I've been interested in Darkstalkers lately with Victor.

>>4061429
Love the bottom left head and top left profile face

You seem to fail sometimes at doing noses on some perspectives

You draw old people well

IN MY OPINION I'M NO MASTER

>>4061424
>applying human proportions to donald duck
you don't even need to know to draw a real duck to draw donald. most cartoonists and animators don't understand shit about anatomy even more these days
i think you mean drawing from life and then applying that to cartoons

>>4061439
>>4061443
Those hands look and feel great, and you seem to have already noticed your errors here, so I've got nothing to say

>>4061447
Never knew Donald duck was the only cartoon character existing

>>4061448
Thank you, sir. I've been doing quicker drawings to catch them faster, rather than them going unnoticed.

>>4061447
I agree with >>4061450
Its absolutely retarded to believe copying frames of donald duck will help jack shit with learning cartoons. I said to learn human anatomy because you need to know how bipedal things that move work before you start drawing them.
Applying human proportions to donald duck would look terrifying

>>4061450
the guy you replied to was drawing donad duck

>>4061340
Not really. Practicing gesture helps a lot more. Try establishing the character's line of action. After that rest, should follow pretty smoothly.

>>4061463
He said he wanted to learn to draw cartoons. Anyone would assume he wanted to make cartoons. Unless he wants to be an "artist" that can flawlessly copy single frames of donald duck.

Is this better than last time? I feel like I lost some gesture in the process

>>4061439
don't torture yourself with hands perspective yet your hands aren't that good in normal views going for perspective is overkill

>>4061487
are you doing gesture or copying?

>>4061429
>>4061433
>>4061435
>>4061439
>>4061443
are you even following a book, it seems like you are aimlessly drawing whatever without a goal, the vast majority are bad btw

>>4061496
I wasn't really intending to make this a study.I was trying to copy the pose so that I could make a separate finished product

>>4061519
So you were cheating by copying a picture of a woman

>>4061519
so are you copying or drawing with your imagination with that pose as ref in that case wouldn't be more easy using a mannequin or using landmarks

>>4060951
Anyone else read it in Sinix' voice?

Maybe I'm just burnt from all the shit I had to do today, causing me to not be able to focus, but damn I really messed this one up.

>>4061571
audible kek

>>4061504
I'm just winging, and occasionally looking at my own hands. I've got one book, though it's more on generalized anatomy. It's got a couple sections on hands so... Yeah.

>>4061587
Read loomis, winging it will not help you improve anything, which is why all of your drawings look shite

>>4061588
Will do.

>>4060409
>>4060427
>>4060462
>>4060652
fuugg lillias is literally one of the hottest chicks on the planet. theres another fairly recent model on NMA called rachel thats 10/10 as well

>>4061487
Think of drawing like a journey.
Get a sense of the lay of the land. Plan your route. Head out. Make adjustments if you hit any roadblocks.
Following along the contour is the equivalent of not planning anything. heading out. getting lost in the woods and eaten by bears.
At least that's what your figures are gonna look like.

Also both your images in this thread look like you barely put any effort into them.
How about you put some work in, before you come here crying for someone to do it for you.

new >>4061628

>>4061621
>Also both your images in this thread look like you barely put any effort into them.
>How about you put some work in, before you come here crying for someone to do it for you.
You are very toxic.

>>4061280
I like this one.

>>4061618
>>4060427
>>4061053
I see where you guys are coming from and concede that Lilias is perfect I do think that Proko's Chanon Finley gives her a run for her money.

>>4060614
>>4060632
r-room for one more?

>>4061678
Theres a lot of garbage in beg, which is completely fine as long as people are trying.
I responded to someone who barely started something and whined for input, twice.
I don't believe in shitting on people, but I call it like I see it.
Still I gave some advice, which he's free to take or leave as I'm not the undisputed master of draftsmanship either.
Someone else would have told him to fuck off and not waste everyones time until he finished something.
If you think a mild reprimand makes me toxic, you should probably leave and find yourself a hugbox.

Practiced some faces. Sinix's stuff is really useful.

>drawabox's elipses in planes exercise
My table of elipses exercise already sucked hard. This is going to be humiliating.

>>4061618
>>4060427

Jesus Christ she has proportions of a Frazetta girl

3d can finally compete!

Posted this in a different thread and someone called me /beg/. Thought I'd come here and ask for some critique

I like this hope you do too