/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

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Banner Saga. Whole 3 games are a great example of flat colour art.

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These are great, I'll check the games out, thanks!

>>4059496
look into Japanese woodblock prints there is a genre name for it but I forget it.

>>4059648
You mean like ukiyoe? I have a book on it actually. Always looking for more inspiration though.

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Wow, those last three are killer. Thanks!

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Glad you like them, anon. I love Ivan Bilibin's stuff so it's fun to have an opportunity to dump his work

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Definitely adding him to my favorites.

>>4059944
I'd actually read comics if they looked like that.

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That's about all I have in my inspo folder, hope some of this was enjoyable, op.

>>4059981
Very much so. Discovered a lot, thanks a ton.

Flat colors and a limited palette are the only acceptable way to color comics

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>>4060321
Love the colors but I don't like the lack of background/setting.

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That's understandable but the pages already look busy enough with so many characters

>>4059496
Never had a thread where i saved every single image, thanks a lot anons

>>4060785
never seen a thread on this art board with so much art

Yun Ling

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Fuck. This looks like a photo in a thumbnail.

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could be based on an actual photo

>>4059496
You might want to take a look at Kev Walkers art

i love this thread

>>4059942
Who's the artist?

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Millionfish

>>4061185
Thank you, I thought it looked like their work but I've never seen that piece before.

Most based thread ive seen in a long time

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“Between Flat and Gradated Tones
What has been said about the balance of straight lines and curves applies equally well to tones, if for straight lines you substitute flat tones, and for curved lines gradated tones. The deeper, more permanent things find expression in the wider, flatter tones, while an excess of gradations makes for prettiness, if not for the gross roundnesses of vicious modelling.

Often when a picture is hopelessly out of gear and "mucked up," as they say in the studio, it can be got on the right road again by reducing it to a basis of flat tones, going over it and painting out the gradations, getting it back to a simpler equation from which the right road to completion can be more readily seen. Overmuch concern with the gradations of the smaller modelling is a very common reason of pictures and drawings getting out of gear. The less expenditure of tone values you can express your modelling with, the better, as a general rule. The balance in the finest work is usually on the side of flat tones rather than on the side of gradated tones. Work that errs on the side of gradations, like[…]”

Excerpt From: Harold Speed. “The Practice and Science of Drawing.” iBooks. https://books.apple.com/us/book/the-practice-and-science-of-drawing/id492176539

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I noticed that almost all pictures here have texture, either on purpose or by being an old print. Is it strictly necessary? Does the picture look flat otherwise?

>>4059954
good taste, m8

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It's more that textures and gradients automatically add visual interest by making the image more complex. You don't need them by any means, but flat colored works often seem a bit visually uninteresting compared to rendered works because the viewers eye has less to process than a rendered work. Textures can re-add that visual interest, but they aren't a necessity.

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That looks like such a blatant ripoff of Mignola's style, who I'm shocked hasn't even been posted in this thread by now.

cosimo galluzzi

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good thread

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Source? that hatching if kino

Bump

contributing

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Op here, I've been swamped with work, glad to see this thread still alive! Feeling really inspired.

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thanks

Tumblr introduced me to Hiroshi Yoshida, so I'll dump this here to keep the thread alive

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Any notes/tips for drawing in this style?

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1. draw lineart
2. put in color

or if you're using opaque paint

1. put in color
2. put lines on top of color

>>4071218
>or if you're using opaque paint
you don't, you use transparent pigments

>>4071236
you can still get nice results by adding lineart after

Love when noise is added on top, looks really nice

>>4071237
from what I experienced, india ink tends to interact with the paint that's been laid down, it never looks as good as laying down lineart first and coloring on top, no matter how dry the paper is
what have you been using to do this? especially stuff like gouache takes ink horribly

>>4071366
I've often done lineart on top of watercolor with no problem, I don't see why gouache should be giving you trouble

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Love this one, have had it as my desktop wallpaper for a long time

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makes me wonder if there's a way to create controlled noise that behaves differently depending on the average value/color of pixels in a radius of x.

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god these are stunning

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gouache has a tendency to reactivate if you paint over it with a wetter paint, that's why you (generally) go from wet -> dry
You might be putting too much water on the brush, or you could try waterproof ink

>>4070282
I need a blog for this!

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https://twitter.com/varguyart

>>4059496
Since this is being ignored in every thread I post it in, could I get some help with this?

I was thinking of adding candles because I feel like just gray and light blueish green will be kinda boring. Some good warm yellows and oranges would probs spice it up

>>4083836
Honestly, I don't think you need to add yellows and oranges. Try and push the values and then add warm blues and greens, instead of directly adding candles. Keep it up!

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blog?

>>4059945
holy hell, who's the artist? this is amazing

>>4067269
it always amazes me how quickly demizu can put out works like that

>>4083836
i love this. yes maybe a shock of high saturation orangey yellow somewhere would look good. it could be from a spot light off screen, a candle, or the fungal things could emit points of warm light? idk just throwing ideas out there.

>>4084764
not a fan of this. the contrast is so high you lose all the detail in the background

>>4083836
Dunning Kruger here, isn't the issue just the tangents and some of the proportions?

good thread

>>4083836
put a shadow under the dude will help ground him
looks pretty good overall

>>4090565
i have no idea what this drawing is meant to accomplish
hands and feet aren't well done but the rest looks decently stylised

>>4094374
That guy's right, there is a pretty big proportion issue with the creature's right arm, the artist probably wanted to "add some perspective to it" too impulsively and haphazardly without any guidelines so it's been shrunk down way too much. The pic also points out how disproportionate the lower legs are, where you have the opposite problem. Also, the perspective is set down pretty clearly by that floor but most of the character barely follows it, plus that entire torso looks really, really wonky. It's to a point where the style just cannot mask it.

Just Google what tangents are lol?

>>4094487
not seeing it lol
explain yourself better.

>>4094487
thats him and you not understanding basic foreshortening. theres nothing wrong with it

>>4095159
The arm I was talking about is the one with absolutely no foreshortening on it you dense fuck. You're hopeless.

>>4095549
the humerus part of his right arms is angled away from the viewer that why it looks a little shorter. its not an error you dense fudge

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the anon is right. The arm is off. Shoulders should be in line and them not being in line, but the elbows being in line creates an issue where the upper arm is far too short on the far side.

I'll redline it if you want.

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Ok, so this should be enough to see the issues. The background is too consistent to apply that level of foreshortening to the body. If consistent with the background, dude's shoulders would be like on the right. that foreshortening in the shoulder/arm would be fine IF the background had some fisheye effect and a less extreme downward viewing point.

>>4095851
but its like this. its angled away

>>4095933
Even angled away, the shoulder should be higher. You have the character on a bg plane that dictates the foreshortening on the character, but the character doesn't adhere to it, so it looks wrong. It's not so much the arm as it is the point of connection in the shoulder. Notice how I redlined the shoulder higher on the left? That's how it should be based on the background. The line between shoulders on the right is directly across, while the legs are tilted. The point of view is high, and the thus you're looking down at the character. Directly across as in the left picture implies that spot on the character is level with the point of view, which is impossible because we're looking down at the character, based on the background.


It's hard to put into words but it shouldn't be drawn as it is. It's a subtle thing that most people would miss, but if you want it to be correct it needs to be changed.

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wrong

>>4095933
This is the best way i can come up with showing it visibly. I'm not saying he needs to have a symmetrical pose as I drew here, but I am saying a few things.

If his upper arm on the far side is angled away, it has to be drawn on an angle that implies that. You have his shoulder lower on the far side, which implies that he's either leaning in a weird way where it would be hard to keep balance, or implies that the view on the upper half of his body is head on, not downward. The problem there is that everything else implies that it is downward. Your drawing would work if the background and legs weren't disagreeing with the torso. To fix this, draw the shoulders level in the same plane as the background (as i did here) and to show the far arm being angled away, draw the upper arm out from the body.

P.S, i hope you don't think i'm shitting on you. I like the drawing a lot. Just trying to help you make it a bit better.

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Here's another option for fixing it. In this one, I kept the twisted angle of the torso and just elongated the upper arm. It keeps the tortured look of the pose you were going for, but fixes the issues at hand. He looks slightly off balance to me like this, but that's really just personal opinion.

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Also, as for your original question in this thread about making the colors look better.. I'm a linework illustrator so I know a lot less about color than I do about posing but my suggestions are to push the values a little bit. Throw some darker darks in there and maybe make the background a tad darker the farther away from the point of view it gets, into the background. Should make the setting more atmospheric and creepy. Dramatic lighting always improves a picture if it's meant to be creepy, in my opinion. Then if you do decide to add in candle light, it'll stand out and add even more visual interest to the picture. And if not, it should still make it more moody regardless.

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NGMI