/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>4039860
crabs hate everyone. from proko, marshall,jazza , kjg, ruan jia ect...

>>4039860
Crabs think he's bad because he can't draw life like kangaroo from imagination.

>>4039866
Proko ain't bad
Marshall is a good guy
Jazza does some dumb stuff but his audience are children
kjg's a chad
ruan is overly admired

>>4039871
why are you telling me your opinion ?

>>4039860
He's based.

>>4039870
>life like
lmao is this what procuck actually believes we're asking from him

>>4039860
>better artist than anyone on the board
>popular
>makes lots of money
>fucks

checks all the boxes why /ic/ would cope by hating him

>>4039860
I remember when people used to shill this guy so hard. What changed?

>>4039925
ppl that shill him made it and left ic

>>4039860
Because he sucks as an artist and his best teaching material is regurgitated from other people who teach it better. The people who appreciate him do so because of the free shit, but anyone with access to other courses through piracy or money will feel like it's a waste of time to watch dumbed down shit.

>>4039925
It's just a bit of banter mate, he still is one of the best "teachers" on the internet.

>>4039925
The stream ofc

I don't think he is. It's mostly just memeing.

>>4039860
He showed a moment of weakness.

That's really all this place judges you by.

>>4040023
That, but it was a lot of them. A whole career of them.

>>4040023
>a moment"

>>4039925
I'm from /pol/, I barely draw and I shit on him because it's funny as fuck.

>>4039935
Living testament to how bad the Minion’s designs are. It should still look appealing even when it’s drawn wrong.

>>4040096
Stop posting this, you fucking retard, it's shitpost and spam at this point.

>>4040165
How about YOU stop sucking proko's fraud cock everytime someone points out the obvious?

>>4039860
at least he can make good courses instead of KJG

he's not.
it's just fun to meme with him, and he's a good sport

>>4039860
This the absolute best he can do.
If you can't tell what's wrong with this fact then you're ngmi

>>4040172
based

>>4040201
Its not anime?

>>4040170
You drag the board down with your crabby shitposts. Fuck off.

>>4039860
it's not like he's hated more like mocked in a semi-benign fashion. and it's over the fetus drawing mostly. he is skilled at drawing from life and interpreting the form, but from imagination, not so much.

>>4040201
Says you, fag. I like his pencil stuff better. Pyw also

>>4039866
I dont mind Proko, he makes decent art. Jazza sucks though. His art is shite. Dont know who the others are.

>>4039860
Because he's successful

>>4040223
Yeah but retards trying to fit in with the board culture dont realize that we're joking and sip hard on the autism hate-juice

>>4040221
Thank you for proving that you bought the proko skull for only a whooping 75$

>>4040266
its less than 3 hours of freelancing.

>>4040226
>Pencil stuff better
Oh you mean his generic portraits? Or the non accurate skeleton drawn next to a nude model?

>>4040275
>DUUUHH OH YOU MEAN THE SHITTY SHIT POO POO FUCK YOU

embarrassing, have some self respect

>>4040201

>>4040201
Let's see your best then.

Keep in mind, posting any memes mean you immediately concede and are a bitch.

>>4040275
You are cringe.
Your works can't even come close to proko so stfu.

>>4040201
all in this pic is good, just the brushstroke work is not so fine, but thats not so important unless you are aiming at being the next Bougherau, you are just another dumb cunt who knows shit about art but talks anyways.

>>4040274
Based

>>4039925
There is a video of him saying he does not need reassurance from people on 4chan and that he could not care less about them. After that people seem to have stop defending him here and that pirating of his materials have increased drastically.

>>4040201
looks like a man

>>4040414
>does not need reassurance from people on 4chan
To be honest, no one should. The fastest moving thread is /beg/. You have beginners telling other beginners 'expertise' tips. That's a big red flag.

>>4040414
Oh shut the fuck up. Nothing would deter people from pirating his stuff whether he said some shit or not.

>>4039860
because he's scamming people by posing as an artist when in fact he's just a teacher
there's nothing inspiring or artsy about his heavily copied stuff

>>4039860
watch him spend over an hour trying to draw a skull, he even uses a miniature skull for reference

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wFGwQxT6a0

>>4040462
He is an artist, because he does and have done art on the past, stop vomiting envy just for the sake of shitpost.

>>4040473
What's wrong with that? Skulls arw complicated shit after all.

>>4040476
Proko has been doing it for 15+ years, he also teaches anatomy, shouldn't he know what a skull looks like by now?

>>4040483
15 years, how can that be? He looks really young so I though he was on the game not more than 5 or so, as a pro, thats fucking worryng.

>>4040488
To be fair it was live and he's working with a medium he's not familiar with. Give him a break.

>>4040483
I dont think Proko really does much drawing at all outside the bare minimum he has to do for his youtube videos. And I'm not even shitting on him. Its not like he's a professional illustrator

His figure drawings are really good though. Just don't copy his style as a beginner, I learned it in the hard way.

>>4039879
>opinion
It's fact.

>>4040473
Here's a screencap , 30 mins in

>>4040592
Fooled by rendering, look closer at the anatomy, cheekbone and temple area especially.

>>4040595
What's wrong with them? I doubt a weeb from /ic/ can know better than proko, prove me wrong because I don't see anything wrong with the skull.

>>4040597
>he thinks proko is good
lol
He can’t draw from imagination and his method is dumb as shit
Hurr let’s memorize all the muscles in the world but never apply this knowledge because I can’t into basic 3d shapes in imagined perspective and need reference for everything.
You could be a printer like him just with observation.

/ic/ finds reasons to hate on anybody. Artists here are petty as fuck

>>4040619
You wrote a lot and still can't answer a simple question.

>>4040414
>pirating of his materials have increased drastically
Only because the anatomy course is almost done, he only has a few vids on the legs and feet left.
Then he is going to star his Drawing Basics course and have Marshall make a perspective one.
Something he should have dobe before anatomy.

>>4040623
Its obvious that anon hasnt seen any of the proko vids, his courses and critiques emphasize construction and simple forms in perspective, he also tells people to exaggerate the reference or to try to draw it from a different angle.

>>4039860
He never was hated here but of course newfag /beg/s and women can differentiate between hate and banter. This is yet another reason they should leave this board.

>>4039871
>ruan is overly admired
you act like it's not justified lol

>>4039860
Ic is full of crabs, and crabs hate successful people.

>>4039932
See. That's what I'm talking about, OP.
Crabs hate successful people.

Crabs
>YOU DONT NEED TO BE A COOK TO CRITIQUE !
>PROKO CANT DRAW A KANGEROO? SHIT ARTIST AND CANT TEACH!

They just want an excuse to not learn and shit on people.

>>4040640
Obviously like other people said he just teaches dumbed down versions of what other artists teach so brainlets like you can eat it up. No one said he doesn't actually teach the fundamentals, just that rips em off from other people.
Where are the drawings of his where he actually used those methods? There aren't any. He teaches all those things yet doesn't have ANYTHING to show for it. >>4040096 was traced.
>>4040650
>>4040658
>>4040645
Nice samefag. You trying to jsutifiy your purchase of his courses?

Why is no one talking about the fact that his videos are so cringe inducing that they're basically unwatchable to anyone but small children

>>4040132
Neat

>>4040132
>being proud that he's from /pol/
the absolute state of 4chan

>>4040201
the only thing thats bad about this is that the foreshortening on the stone tiles looks kinda wack

>>4040620
>"artists"
lol. more like teenagers who don't know how to draw because their learning was sabotaged by memes

>>4040742
Why would anyone do something but practice and read books? EVERY drawing lesson video is cringe.

>>4040759
why are you alive ? life is cringe

if you dont like proko, you should still watch his SDCC videos, its about everyone except proko and they are really entertaining. eliza ivanova is also a qt https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvb3vfjqL-Q

>>4040763
Not as cringe as "lesson" videos you watch instead of living.

>>4040765
beware some embarrassing edits and proko jokes though, forgot to say

While some people shitting on Proko can be petty and crabby, it's defending him that I don't get. It's completely reasonable to not think highly of someone who earns their living teaching illustration with less skill than the average illustrator.
Are you guys really that emotionally attached to a guy online just because he was the first free result you found for a tutorial?

>>4040777
it is not about being the "first"

he made the highest quality, best organised free lessons that can be found online

>>4040777
Proko really isn't a great all-around artist but he's doing god's work. He has the most accessible (free) AND informative videos on the fundamentals of traditional figure drawing on Youtube. The content in them is 100% legit and therefore its an invaluable resource for beginners in a sea of misinformation.

>>4040201
>If you can't tell what's wrong with this fact then you're ngmi
well i guess i am, so whats wrong with it?

>>4039860
He made it.

You people are retards. The fact that there is ANY information made by a person who went through an Atelier such as Watts is a great benefit to self taught artists. So what if you can find better information somewhere else in some book?
All of it is basically the same information anyway. As long as you keep studying from life and applying what you learned from observation into finished pieces, the basics are all you really need.

>>4040828
Nothing, at best is something of taste about how boring the pic is, but technically is a correct pic, people here just mix shitpost with regular post.

I can draw from purely from imagination better than scroto, using the materials scroto have taught me.

Funny how this works.

proko is super cringey and doing podcasts with someone like marshall makes his lack of charisma even more so painfully apparent

>>4040201
he already made it tho

>>4040828
What I meant is that proko goes in depth about anatomy when his "best' work are just paintings done from photos that didn't even require any special knowledge to do aside from mechanical kill.

Notice how all the anons shit posting about proko never post their work.
crabs gonna crab.

>>4040862
exactly what i wrote b4
>his method is dumb as shit
Hurr let’s memorize all the muscles in the world but never apply this knowledge because I can’t into basic 3d shapes in imagined perspective and need reference for everything.
You could be a printer like him just with observation.

Why waste your time memorizing anatomy when all you can do is photocopy your reference. It really makes no sense.
You'd literally already be above him if you just knew how to draw cylinders from imagination

>>4040862
But there's nothing wrong with his anatomy lessons tho? Or are you saying he is teaching wrong anatomy?

>>4040889
anatomy is not something you should worry about if you cant even do basic 3d shapes.

> live footage of Vilppu obliterating Proko from orbit

>>4040926
Based

>>4039860
summerfags don’t know the difference between a draftsman and their favorite cartoonist that draws from imagination.

>>4040998
Less than 5% of /ic/ want to be drasftmen.

>>4041001
less than 0.001% of /ic/ will make it.

Pyw

>>4040275
holy fuck, I made that picture
never post it again

>>4040862
Anatomy is now considered special knowledge? Holy shit. Just stop posting dude.

>>4040889
Anatomy knowledge helps you understand the subtle forms of what you are seeing when you are drawing from observation, making drawing more effortless and productive. Its also fundamental if you want to draw realistic figures from imagination unless you think you can connect tubes together and get that same result.

Use your brain faggot.

I like how all proko haters stay quiet the moment they are challenged to present a compelling argument.

>>4041693
thats every shitposter on this board. the same guys who just ghost you once you tell them to post their work or go "nah bro i dont want my multimillion dollar clients knowing i went to 4chan"

he lacks the spark ligament

>>4041767
the old italian meme ligament

>>4040142
>It should still look appealing even when it’s drawn wrong.
Ok.

You don't need to place a lid on a bucket of crabs because they'll pull each other back down. The phrase "crabs in a bucket" refers to this, and is often likened to the human behavior of unsuccessful people attempting to prevent anybody around them from becoming successful, or from improving their station in life.

The phrase "misery loves company" can also be applied here: failed artists unable to cope with their shortcomings dread nothing more than feeling alone in these shortcomings, and so they seek out company to share their feelings. There is usually little wrong with joining a group of likeminded people, but when your likeminded group is composed of miserable failures, then no matter your intentions upon joining, you will eventually become as miserable as the company you keep.

>>4041693
what do you mean?
WHAT DO YU MEAN
EVERY TIME I HAVE TO DO THIS EVERY TIME OKAY
OKAY HERE
IS YOUR
FUCKING ARGUMENT U RETARD
HE
CANT
FUCKING
DRAW
FROM IMAGINATION
his INSECURITY as an artist, because he LACKS THE SKILL TO DRAW FROM IMAGINATION BECAUSE HE ISA A COWARD SHOWS IN EVERY FUCKING VIDEO AND INTERVIEW HE HAS DONE
HELLLO
YOU HAVE TO BE AUTISTIC TO NOT NOTICE HOW MUCH OF A COWARD THIS RETARD IS
here
HERE IS UR FUCKINGARGUMENT
stop defending this kangaroo
THE MERE FACT THAT THIS BOARD SHITTALKS FUCKING LOOMIS
AND THINKS PROKO IS GOOD IS A FUCKING SIGN OF HOW BAD THINGS ARE REALLY
STOP SHILLING THIS RETARD HELLOOOOOO

>>4042073
so he cant draw from imagination well, who cares

>COWARD RETARD COWARD COWARD RETARD
whats your problem spaztron

>>4042074
>so he cant draw from imagination well, who cares
ay lmao

>>4042073
>>4042095
Tell me why a fine artist would need to be able to draw from imagination.

>>4042095
"ay lmao" isnt even close to a rebuttal
literally an empty post saying "fuck you im not wrong"

>>4042108

Proko's kangaroo is god-tier. You plebs are just too stupid to understand his greatness.

So what's wrong with Proko's anatomy lectures?

>>4042130
Nothing, they are great.

>>4042130
Nothing
Some autist is mad that he focuses on anatomy in his anatomy lessons instead of perspective and drawing from imagination.

>>4042100
Because muh creativity? Or something? I guess people are impressed when an artist can know a subject well enough to remember its qualities. But really if an artist just wants to do a demonstration or focus on skills or try a new technique, there’s no shame in not being able to paint from imagination. It all just depends on what you’re trying to accomplish as an artist

>>4042073
>THE MERE FACT THAT THIS BOARD SHITTALKS FUCKING LOOMIS
>AND THINKS PROKO IS GOOD IS A FUCKING SIGN OF HOW BAD THINGS ARE REALLY

Consider this for a moment:a board is made up of different people that like different things.

>>4042745
Consider this: the dwarf scroto baggins constantly shills his garbage here. Hopefully the continued piracy of his trash will make him go away