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How can I have a normal art career or a fanbase in the long run being a right-wing conservative? Most of the artists out there are leftist liberals, even if my account is only art, I feel that when interacting with my followers, sooner or later they'll ask me what's my opinion about X or Y and when I give my honest opinion about it, everything explodes, followers block me, art drama and somehow twatter deletes my account, instagram bans me, boom, art career ruined, it may sound exaggerated but considering the things that happen on twitter, it's somewhat possible.
of course i'm not that type of "edgy nazi" extreme conservative, but knowing these people, im literally hitler

>> No.4031655

>>4031653
Simple

Just don't talk about politics.

>> No.4031656

>>4031653
Don't fall for the trap of using social media to distract yourself with, don't use it for anything other than presenting your pieces and shill yourself. That's how you use social media against those who are conditioning the perception of other people by suggesting a narrative.

>> No.4031658

>>4031653
dont know fagget, just tell them you dont like to discuss that stuff and move on to other subject, you stupid fuck, nobody cares at the end of the day.

>> No.4031660

>>4031655
this
i've been asked and I simply state I am not here to discuss politics or announce my political preferences
it's for art

>> No.4031664

>>4031653
just shut the fuck up. its simple. if you want shit down your throat go ahead and open it.

>> No.4031669

>>4031655
i havent done anything yet so i dont know much about it but i mean, part of making a fanbase is to talk more about yourself and interact with other artists so they can know you better and get to more people,isn't it?
or talking about yourself about your political beliefs is just optional to make a fanbase?

>> No.4031669,1 [INTERNAL] 

Accept your beliefs are shit and people don't like shit or don't talk about your beliefs. Conservatism has always been anti art, historically speaking so reconcile that or deal.

Ever.

>> No.4031688

>>4031669
There's a lot of popular artists out there that just release art and fuck off, you don't really to be a personable person to release art. It sucks but if you really need to vent out your beliefs I'd recommend making a personal account detached from your art twitter

>> No.4031693

>>4031669
Quit looking for reasons to victimize yourself retard

>> No.4031709

As a progressive I suggest you only use your account for art, and don't give libtards (aka progressive poseurs who only want to impose their simplistic worldview on others) excuses to shit up your timeline. I know the kind of shit that entitled libtards can do, I had them close enough, long enough.

Also you can reject Nazi ideology and still accept that their uniforms are badass. If you gotta genocide, genocide with style.

>> No.4031724

>>4031653
>Most of the artists out there are leftist liberals
I have a felling that you're a retarded IdPol faggot and that your actual politics are worth about as much as a dead horse, but I'll play ball because you're ngmi anyways.

Basically you've got 2 methods. Either lean into it heavy and build your brand around your counter-culture mannerisms (read: Shädman), or shut the fuck up and just tell your followers that you don't talk politics (read: most artists). Remember that it's infinitely easier to go from the latter to the former than the other way around. And if you decide to lean into the political side every move you make will be divisive; you're not dealing with human beings, you're dealing with the kind of ape that willingly uses social media.

>> No.4031727

>>4031653
Subtly imply your views in ways that leftycucks won't notice

>> No.4031730

>>4031653
Newspaper Editorial cartoons? 4 panel funny strips?

>> No.4031734

>>4031727
This is terrible advice, trying to drop small redpills and dog whistles is absolutely not what he should be trying to do if he wants people to leave him alone

>> No.4031737

>>4031709
>Also you can reject Nazi ideology and still accept that their uniforms are badass. If you gotta genocide, genocide with style.
unironically based

>> No.4031739

>>4031724
>I have a felling that you're a retarded IdPol faggot and that your actual politics are worth about as much as a dead horse
I have a feeling you're the kind of person he's trying to avoid.

>> No.4031774

>>4031739
I'd like to hope not

>> No.4031813

>>4031653
lol you're here whining already and you haven't even finished 'fun with a pencil'? you're just as bad as the tranny tumblrites. nobody gives a shit about your views you fuckin narcissist. just stfu and draw.

>> No.4031823

>>4031653
<jaja anon you draw cute anyway what your politic tendency?
>i don't really care about politics, i just concern about drawing
Done.

>> No.4031836

>>4031653
Im a brocialist, I'd be your friend. Fuck idpozzed assholes. However i would try to shill communism to you and i would succeed.

>> No.4031852

>>4031823
But what if they ask directly whether he supports feminism, or same sex marriage, or whatever else the SJWs come up with to force people to declare themselves?

>> No.4031854

>>4031852
he ignores it. dont even say a word. you guys are such spergs i swear

>> No.4031887

>>4031653
lol "conservatives" can't make art, silly.

>> No.4031947

Few options:
1. Do what Shad does
2. Don't post Nazi shit retard(if Nazis make up >30% of your followers you fucked this one up)
3. Embrace it. Notoriety is still a way to be remembered.

>> No.4031952

>>4031655
This. If they keep asking for your opinion then say it in a non-provocative way. Don't ever go on a rant about politic on Twitter.

>> No.4031962

>>4031653
It's not like you have to make art about it. Personaly I just ignore #pridemonth, #internationalwomensday etc. I'm probably missing out on some easy subs but oh well.

>> No.4031979

>>4031653
nobody cares, dont bring it up, nobody is going to ask what you think of trump. this is the same retarded thing as "i cant post my art here people will know im on 4chan"

unironically grow up. not in a mean way, but that is a very juvenile attitude. also, chances are all the political shit youre seeing is just you being hyperaware of it and bringing it up yourself.

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>>4031813
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>>4031979
you'd be surprised over how many pretend to care to earn twitter points. then more and more pretends and eventually your social life is shit because everybody pretends you are a bad person.

OP, there's nothing you can do except wait it out. the left aren't left anymore, they are insane. twitter isn't reality and this madness will end one way or another.

remember that obama was actually nicknamed obomber and deporter in chief. whatever the left is today they aren't the real left. they've been taken over by authoritarians. in their mind there is no truth, only power.

>> No.4032117

>>4031653
>sooner or later they'll ask me what's my opinion about X or Y
Just lie lol

>> No.4032123

>>4031653
>when I give my honest opinion about it, everything explodes, followers block me, art drama and somehow twatter deletes my account, instagram bans me, boom, art career ruined, it may sound exaggerated but considering the things that happen on twitter, it's somewhat possible.

So are all nu-artists this full of themselves that they think that people actually give a fuck about them.. ? or is it just ic

>> No.4032144

>>4032123
It's just /ic/ because to no one's surprise everyone here has terrible social skills.

>> No.4032146

>>4031653
Why are americans so obsessed with politics? It's pretty hilarious. Why don't you realize that whatever monkey is sitting on top of the food chain doesn't really matter in the long run.

>> No.4032149

>>4031989
no youd be surprised at how many people dont give a flying fuck outside of this echo chamber shithole of a website

>> No.4032158

>>4031653
First of all it depends on what kind of things you draw. If you draw shit that looks like Steven Universe you will get the mad SJW crowd. Second, don't talk about politics. At all. If they ask you why don't you draw fat or gay people, ignore them. All these questions are bait anyway and no matter what you reply you'll get lynched and everything that follows will be damage control. NEVER reply to these questions.

If I ever get really pressured one day, like in an interview (never gonna happen anyway) I'll say exactly what I think: that talking about politics on the internet will get you cataloged as extreme left or extreme right regardless of where you are aligned, and any discussion that follows is just an attempt to justify yourself instead of an actual discussion about your thoughts. Anything you say can be twisted or quoted out of context to make you pass as something you're not, so I keep politics out of the internet.
I have to reason like a nazi when I'm just a socialist with a nationalistic bent.

>> No.4032246

>>4032149
mkay

>> No.4032258

Don't expose your political leanings, either left or right
Don't even repost shitty dog memes

POST ART
AND NOTHING ELSE

>> No.4032291

>>4031653
>right-wing conservative

NGMI. You have to have soul to draw well.

>> No.4032429

>>4032146
Spotted the Russian.

>> No.4032492

>>4031653
Just put this on your profile
>"This is machine-translated text. English is not main language".
A solid-bullet proof shield against from those who tries to poke into unnecessary private things. Also, post a lot of food pictures or game you are currently playing.

>> No.4032496

You do you

and they will love you for it

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>> No.4032499

Never ever hide who you are in art

>> No.4032501

Don't try to be anyone else

find inspiration and steal the good bits

but be you

>> No.4032504

We live in a free and tolerant society don't we?

>> No.4032507

You are allowed to have opinions

are you not?

>> No.4032509

You are allowed to have opinions that others don't like

and feelings to the contrary mean you are being treated out with common decency in reflection of the bill of rights.

>> No.4032511

If it's popularity you are after

good luck

the best ideas aren't tolerated at first

and so the cycle continues

>> No.4032518

If everyone says the earth is flat

are you suddenly going to paint it?

I don't know what the popular opinion is

which century is this

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>>4031724
>IdPol
ew kys

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>>4031653
>>4031653
This thread is full of mental retardation.

No one has any obligation to listen to or accept your bullshit. You are free to express your opinions, and unless you're breaking the platforms rules, you will not be banned from social media. Art & creative directors are overwhelmingly left-leaning. They have every right to not want to work with you if you're posting about your support for Trump (for example).

>>4032499
>>4032501
>>4032504
>>4032507
>>4032509
>>4032511
>>4032518
Guarantee this anon doesn't have a single well-informed opinion about politics. It's just your average surface level pseudo-deep nonsense.

>> No.4032528

>>4032525

Well I feel confused about politics on earth, so you got me.

>> No.4032532

>>4032525

But without admission I studied politics and human social historical anthropology with Yale and Cambrdige.

free of charge. Zero Point Education.

>> No.4032923

shut up and don’t mention it or don’t be surprised if people unfollow you for having shit opinions.

>> No.4032988

>>4031709
uber based

>> No.4033003

>>4031653
go the shadman/filphy frank way
be has edgy as you want but make it impossible to distinguish from your real opinions

>> No.4033044

>>4031655
but how will everyone know how redpilled i am?

>> No.4033063

>>4031653
>making up scenarios of having your art career ruined when youre still beg

>> No.4033890

>>4031727
it's really not hard to read between the lines with that honestly, i mean people read political agendas into the most mundane shit in the world nowadays. if you post pepe you're a nazi
conversely, there was that frenworld subreddit that got banned not long ago because of course it did. those retards failed pretty miserably at masking their support for hate crimes and racism
just keep your mouth shut about that sort of thing unless politics are part of you art or you don't give a shit about what you say online and that's your brand

>> No.4034185

I'm leftist and I don't talk about my politics, ever. I only post art and talk about art supplies. It's really not that hard
If you feel the desperate need to shout your politics on the internet, do it on pol, you're anonymous there.

>> No.4034189

>>4031669
>talking about yourself about your political beliefs
that's a trap. If you become well known people will try to crucify you for this, regardless of what part of the political spectrum your're on.

>>4031693
this.

are you in this to be an artist or to make allies/enemies based off politics? that is what you must ask yourself

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4034353

Do you support gays?? Yes/No??

Forgot About Morpheus
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGgCqGm_6Hs
Still D.R.E.(A.M.)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVkUvmDQ3HY
Dhe Straight And Narrow
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvY5MgOgDUw
Rabin Lenin Did Nothing Wrong
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pM8bzm7-kIQ

>Robin

>> No.4034439

>>4031653
Youre posting on 4chan. Youre an edgy nazi. Youre one of those retards who brings his autistic incel rage into irl. People wont like you.

>> No.4036706

>>4031656
thank you

>> No.4037308

>>4031709
objective truth. ss be stylin

>> No.4037429

>>4031653
you don't even have to give opinions to incite that kind of outrage. all you have to do is draw a picture of a character meditating and people will screech at you to take it down or else you are a horrible racist.

>> No.4037608

>>4031653
Your political orientation shouldnt have much bearing on your art unless you want it too