/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

how do i make mony off my shitty art?

what is the difference between gesture drawing and croquis?

>>4009800
Gesture is supposed to emphasize the movement, but in practice these are just two words for pretty much the same thing.

>>4009797
is there a step by step video on how to achieve the brush strokes rendering aesthetic of jcl? at least an imitation or study of it?

Help me with smoothing.
I have nezumi, which settings replicate the SAI and CSP smoothing the most?

>>4009797
How to draw a consistent head in every angle in comic/manga?

>>4009901
Then for up and down

Help, what type of belt buckle is this and how does it work? My belt doesn't really look like this and I can't find anything on Google that looks like this.

>>4010405
Forgot image.

>>4009901
>>4010401
Draw it Like soO0oo0O

>>4010401
>>4010409
This is the worst attempt at teaching anyone on /ic/ has ever made. Take your pills and never post again.

>>4009797
Lol @ the first one.

>>4010401
>>4010409
peak /ic/

>>4009843
You're probably best by copying over and over until you match the style

What does it mean when you try to "just draw" but you don't have any solid ideas in your head? I don't have any creativity or unique designs I want to draw. So does that mean I can't ever learn to draw well? Does that mean I'm broken?

>>4010444
Yes, it does.

>>4010409
?

>>4009843
It's not that good, but it's something:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66H2URFOUjg

>>4010456
Holy fuck I'm dying

>>4010444
Do master studies. Try to find new artists you didn't know of or didn't care about. Try to explore stuff, draw different variations of something, sketches, doodles, caricatures. Draw from life: people, cars, buildings, furniture in your room, random things you have, food. Draw random blobs and turn them into something. Illustrate a book. Draw requests in draw threads. Go to the "roll to draw emotions" thread. Draw rocks, trees, animal skulls, bugs, animals, primitive buildings, from photos. Draw a random animal and turn it into a monster. Just draw.

>>4010499
I can't do any of that because I still suck at drawing

>>4010506
>how i get better
>just draw
>i cant just draw because i cant draw

>>4010509
It'll just look shitty. How can anyone just keep drawing despite knowing that everything they are doing is wrong? You have to be ignorant of it or enjoy terrible art.

>>4010521
Stop complaining and use your fucking brain, it's no brainer just to copy (not mentioning high level master copy, it's actually quite demanding). Treat it like "find the differences" between your version and original, push yourself to the maximum and post here when you're stuck. But I don't know what the fuck are you doing here if you don't find art fun

>>4010481
>>4010437
does the book describes his techniques? upon closer inspection, are those white paint strokes basically the paint over bleeds?

>>4010521
learn to problem solve. dont like a hand you drew, look up a method of drawing hands. cant do it, find another method that makes sense to you. adapt it to yourself. this is no different than anything else you would try doing in life. hating it is good, means youll (hopefully) try to fix it, which is how you get better.
>You have to be ignorant of it or enjoy terrible art.
theres more to enjoying drawing than just liking the end result.

>>4010541
What more is there to enjoy then?

>>4010553
The process dumbass.
If you can't enjoy the process of drawing then why even bother.

When you're doing sketches, is it better to attempt the same drawing to learn from your mistakes or only draw something once so you don't learn weird habits?

>>4010573
Because I want to draw things I enjoy. You're probably right there is no point though.

>>4010521
Idiot. This is the only way you can improve. Do master studies, they don't take much skill and will look good as long as you're careful and patient.

>>4010592
Definitely draw it again if you see mistakes and think you know how to solve them. If you're afraid of learning bad habits, draw from life or from reference.

>>4010607
Gotcha

>>4010521
How can anyone learn to speak a language when they barely know any grammar or words? How can anyone learn to program when they make a bunch of bugs all the time? How can anyone learn to do skateboard tricks when most of the time the just fall and hurt themselves?

I hope you realize how much of a fucking dumb cunt you are.

How do people feel about when someone redlines their work?
I'm curious how other people view it. I sometimes find it helpful. And sometimes I wish I red line others work to not only try to help them but improve my own skills.

>>4010509
Doodle. Not every piece has to be a master piece. Doodle for fun and it you like the doodle enough turn it into a drawing. My sketch book has pages of mindless doodles and thumbnails, that I will never take seriously. But it helps me feel relax enough for better drawings.

>>4010598
I think you gotta man up and start seeing the bigger picture.
If you quit drawing because you don't like doing it then by all means, you weren't going to try anyways.
But if a random person on the internet can persuade you to stop doing something you're just weak willed in general.

What benefit is there to keeping a sketchbook or so? I hate looking at any of my bad drawings so I normally throw them out but curious if there's a good reason to keep them.

>>4010940
To remind yourself of your journey and that you didn't just magically teleport to the level you are today.

Is SICO actually a good practice for trying to get better at lines?

Got portraits down, just needa know how to attack them to a body. Any tips for this?

What breed is this? Currently looking for references.

What breed is this? Currently looking for references.

>>4010777
as a /beg/-tier I find it infinitely helpful, esp when I'm doing foreshortening and it looks fucky.
Some kind anon just goes "your perspective is off" and posts the redline, and boom, suddenly I get exactly where I fucked up, y'know?

>>4010997
Fuck off, furfag.

>>4010997
This is gonna be a pet portrait, my dude.

>>4011072
>>4011075

>>4010997
Looks like a cross breed possibly mastiff and something else.

what does SICO and DOMS stand for?

>>4011087
Sico is just the letters you draw them repeatedly to practice straight lines and curves

>>4010997
Ask /an/ instead

>>4010997
Shar pei, obviously. But this one is a traditional shar pei, so it's not as wrinkly as the ones you're probably familiar with. Look it up, the breed has to varieties.

Why is drawing from observation so fucking hard?

>>4011364
*two

Anyway, if you're drawing a pet portrait, why can't you ask the owners?

>>4011368
They didn't know it either.

>>4011364
>>4011368
In any case, thanks, this'll be very helpful.

How much do you let yourself look at reference images? Whenever I look at mine too closely or too much my form on my drawings gets terrible

Should I be copying art that I like? I'm thinking about doing a few 1:1 copies. I'm not gonna post em online or anything.

>>4011501
Yes, you should.

>>4011366
It's not, you're just a ngmi

What size of the paper are people drawing on? I'm currently drawin on a a4 paper wondering if it would be better to draw on an a3 instead?

>>4011796
It all depends on what you draw, how you draw, why you draw. A4 is fine.

>>4011808
But are there any drawbacks to using a bigger piece of paper if i got the space for it?

>>4011796
I draw on a4 for most practice, especially stuff I'm going to be churning through, like firgure and perspective practice, where it will be page after page after page, a3 is what I draw larger images on, and especially anything I want to show off, I draw large and in a3, such as scenery or a specific figure drawing I have in mind. Honestly it's artists choice but there is something to be said for comfy a4 or smaller drawings.

>>4010481
>proko.

>>4011823
Harder to see everything at once, harder to make quick expressive lines. You can use smaller paper for gesture drawings, exploratory sketches, thumbnails. Anything larger than a4 I'd only use for finished work. But I also draw on smaller paper, even almost business card size paper, when I'm outside.

>>4011366
because drawing from observation is too high level for you, try something easier, such as tracing

after you can trace something at the maximum speed you think you can get while having decent lines you can level up to observation drawing. after that its memory drawing, and imagination drawing will be the last level

>>4011864
what kind of advice is this?

drawing from observation is the first thing anyone should learn

and drawing from life instead of photos whenever possible

>>4011906
wrong

t. guy who lost the use of his main hand for a few months

>>4011906
It's an okay advice. If someone is too bad for observation drawing, they should try tracing. But I'd add to that practicing lines, ellipses and boxes, and not spending too much time on tracing.

>>4011917
I say quite the contrary, if you want to get something out of tracing you have to do a lot of it

should i practice loomis traditionally or i can do it on digital?

I'm a beginner, is recomendable the book "how to draw manga vol 1"?

>>4011975
No.

Is there a program to resize photos without screenshot?

How can i achieve this kind of brush in photoshop?
original by eigaka

>>4010408
Not sure what that one is, but military issue belts look like that when done up.

How do I stop drawing tiny drawings?
I want to take up the whole page.
This is me trying to draw bigger! The head was smaller and then the body was still small.

>>4012311
Go to Eigaka's twitter and look at the first post you fucking retard.

>>4012422
Make a big stroke on the page and force yourself to use it in the drawing.

How do you clean an eraser? My erasers build up lead on them so when I erase leaves a grey mark. So far the only method I have is getting I white paper and rubbing the lead off

>>4009797
How do you guys practice perspective? I want to learn the fundamentals to a point where I can draw most things and be sure that at a fundamental level my drawing is good.

>>4013187
Draw basic objects with perspective. Start by drawing boxes with reference lines. Once you can accurately draw cubes and boxes in perspective without reference lines, start going more complex with lines. Then without. Rinse repeat.

>>4012422
drawing with an overhand grip forces you to draw a bit bigger in general. Set two points that describe the height and size of the figure that you want to start drawing. If you want the figure to take the whole page, make the two points that far apart. If you start with no real idea of what you want to draw it's a bad habit, even if you just want to draw a head you shouldn't draw a head, draw a bust or at least the shoulders instead.

>>4012654
I just rub them on the wood of my drawing board.

>>4013187
Best way is to take a vow to never draw characters just standing there. Always draw the character against a background. Even better, always draw a character interacting with the background or moving in it. There is little excuse not to draw a simple one point perspective in every sketch.

why do i feel like i have so much more control drawing on cheap paper over my $2000 cintiq? i thinhk maybe its the slight grip paper has, is there any way to give cintiq pens more grip?

>>4013187
read about basic perspective and think about it a lot, something that helped me i read in a tutorial was the concept of the 'world below' and the 'world above'. you can split everything into either world if they are above where the eye is or below. imagine a giant invisible divide on the horizon

>>4013358
How long have you had your cintiq? Drawing on paper always feels superior to drawing digitally for me too desu.

>>4013385
about a year and before that i had a smaller one for much longer so im not new to this. i guess it was after going back to my sketchbook for a while it just felt so good and i miss the exact control i had

Do my followers on twitter see what I like in their feed? I noticed that I'm losing followers when liking fucked up fetishes, but don't draw, reply or retweet them. Or is it just coincidence?

>>4013799
Yes, unfortunately Twitter will randomly show off things you've liked. Doesn't make any sense why they'd make the Like button randomly perform a retweet, but it does.

>>4013864
What the fuck, now I will have to clear out 5k likes

>>4013864
That was one of the most frustrating "updates" Twitter has done. There were plenty of people I had to unfollow because they liked porn I wasn't personally into and it kept showing up on my feed.

>>4013972
Is there some kind of site where I can sort my likes from older to newer and unlike some unrelated shit like fuck niggers and fuck trannies from the days when I didn't draw?

I have a shit ton of sketchbooks and barely any of them are even a quarter full. Any advice?

>>4013864
I was afraid something like that might be implemented.

Is there any way I can make a Twitter account without putting in my phone number? Whenever I start an account, it immediately gets withheld due to "suspicious activity" when all I've done is comment on a few posts. In order to get my account back, I have to give them my phone number.

>>4014292
They do this automatically now. It's been pretty much instantaneous for any account I make. You need to submit a support ticket on Twitter, let that process (this is when they'll say you were being "suspicious" and you need a phone number), and they should send an email with this information. You reply to that email and say "I don't have a phone number that I can provide, and I'm not a bot, so can you please unlock my account?" and they *should* do it. Be polite.

I think they're starting to block this method, so it might not work. Honestly I'm just quitting Twitter if they keep pulling this shit. Sick of these stupid fuckers trying to harvest personal data to sell off.

>>4014285
Draw in them; don't buy new ones.

Anyone have /rec/s for a stand alone tablet?
I'd like one just for traveling purposes and just to keep it portable around the house, my computer set up isn't very good for drawing, but I can't really change it either.
So I was thinking I'd just pick up a tablet. I'd prefer it not to be apple, but if that's the best I'm willing to go for it.

Any advice? Is this even a route worth going or are they all shit.

What are some good JewTubers for beginning digital painting?

>>4000450
I've heard before on this board that stuff like Dynamic Sketching/Perspective Made Easy/Fun With A Pencil is meant for people who've fully gotten rid of symbol drawing so I'm putting those on the backburner. Although I'll probably take a quick peek if they help me with mechanical objects exercise.

>Also as a preemptive warning: avoid Drawabox.
Why? I myself have never desired to look into Drawabox because people say that only the first few lessons are good, is that true?

Another thing of less importance is that I feel that I should use a pen because my hand feels a lot more wobbly and shaky with my Papermate mechanical pencil then usual. Am I just gripping it the wrong way?

What are some good flockdraw/skycow alternatives for doodling with your friends over the internet? Preferably something with a much larger, but not infinite canvas

Can someone help me find the origin of this image? I know feng zhu painted it (signature) but reverse search comes up with nothing. also he doesnt even have a portfolio website. I just need a higher quality version

>>4015765
Nothing good on youtube, torrent the paid courses.

I personally liked Ctrl+Paint

Why do Japanese twitter artists protect their twitter accounts for 2 or so days at a time every so often? I've noticed it happens fairly regularly for a few accounts I follow.

>>4015862
Get a heavy mechanical pencil. Graphgear 500 and 1000 are perfect for avoiding that.

>>4015030
I don't like Apple, but honestly, iPads are your best option, since pen-enabled Windows tablets are either a mess (Surface, Lenovo) or ridiculously expensive (Samsung, Cintiq Companion) and the devs of serious drawing apps don't seem to care about Android.

Go for the third gen iPad Air and the first gen Apple Pencil ($500+100). Laminated screen, good CPU, great value. Procreate and Clip Studio are great apps you won't find on Android or Windows ARM tablets.

I've been doing studies a lot and I feel pretty confident with my anatomy. Not faces so much.
But I don't like how my body's look stubby. I'm thinking of trying to stylized my study, no longer trying to make it realistic.
But I'm scared that it would inhibit my ability to draw correctly.

>>4013864
I don't even like any porn and this is extremely retarded
>>4013799
>>4013919
but you guys deserve it, degenerates btfo

Im new to perspective. Is it true that you can always make a circle in perspective by an ellipse at an angle in the center of a square? Does distortion ever make it egg-like?

>>4016991
Distortion never makes it egg-like. However, if you draw it inside a square you might draw it wrong, but probably not too wrong to be noticeable.

>>4017001
What method would work to draw it correctly then?

>>4016353
Yeah I dropped for an ipad pro, the pencil is actually really nice. Procreate is decent, but it really feels like a cheap drawing app and is missing a fuck ton of features.
Would I be able to move CSP over to it from windows? Also, any other software recs?

Procreate works fine for sketching, which was what I mainly wanted it for, but would still like to be able to do the full package without forcing things to work.

>>4017013
3d software. Don't worry about it too much though. Unless you really need to make it 100% accurate, you'll be fine with a square, or even just eyeballing it. And if you do, it's not worth the time and effort to learn to do it when you have Blender.

>>4009799
Make an art YouTube channel and do dumb challenges

>>4017087
>Would I be able to move CSP over to it from windows?
No, afaik, they are priced differently, the iPad version is subscription based.

> is missing a fuck ton of features
Like what?

>>4017115
>like what
I was looking around on it for like 30 minutes yesterday looking for a lasso tool, or just a selection tool in general and couldn't find one.

>>4017124
I only ever used Procreate for 15 minutes at a store, and I found the lasso tool instantly.

Is photorealism worth it?

>>4017261
Worth what?

>>4017273
Worth wasting all that time. I don't want to be one of the artistes of instagram always drawing stills of celebrities.
I wanna draw waifus

>>4017280
Then it's not. If you don't want to be something then don't.

Does anyone have any links to good Photoshop brushes?

Wheres the best place to really start if I plan to pick up digital art as a hobby? Most of /beg/'s Big Sticky and Fun with a Pencil should still apply, correct?

How often should i upload art if i don't want to lose followers (all 40 that i have) but still want to keep making progress in improving my art?

>>4018720
Upload your studies when possible. You won't lose followers for never posting, but you won't grow either. You'll only lose followers if you post shit they don't like.

For this I'm gonna need a picture reference. Is it better to try and use the top monitor (30 inch monitor) for reference while using my drawing tablet (Surface Pro 4 so 12.3 inch(?)) for actual drawing, or should both reference and drawing be on the same screen?

>>4019546
That's more or less my setup. I like having a full screen of references and a full screen of drawing space.

why ''audio streams'' are not allowed here?

>>4013864
Is this true or is it one of those social media meme like the facebook meme "if you save someone's picture he gets a notification"
giving anxiety to all the beta orbiters

>>4011864
(you) are not correct

>>4015765
youtube is alright. but you'll hit a wall.
just go straight for what this guy says
>>4016333
and search up the floobynoobies digital painting tuts on the sticky, they've really helped me, at least.

I'm looking for a type of bag with a shoulder strap that can hold a minimum of a 5x11 sketch book, and a maximum of 9x12. What are some bag/purse types that will fit my needs? I lookes up satchels but they seem like more of a bigger bag, I'm going to go to some thrift stores to hopefully find what I need.

>>4019906
you are (not) correct*

>>4019752
No, really, follow some people and eventually you'll see shit appear on your timeline that says "So-and-so liked." I've even seen some Japanese artists comment on liking porn and losing followers. I've finally decided to just make a censored account for posting my own work (meaning don't follow or like anything erotic).

The weirdest thing is there is no way to tell what will get shown to others. It seems to be completely random who will see it and which like they will see.

Wheres a good place to get references for lighting studies?
I'm trying to improve on my lighting game.

>>4020084
>>4019752
>>4014288
>>4013919
>>4013799
Since this is something quite a few people seem worried about, I've got a screenshot of it happening just now. In this case it was a cute cat video, in other cases it's your most degenerate fetish. Who knows what Twitter will show off next!

>>4013864
they do this so they can manufacture drama easily in the future. be prepared to see some dumb news about so and so liking a problematic image or page

How do you avoid getting lost in the sauce when drawing people wearing clothing? I have difficulty drawing people wearing clothes of any kind. The clothes just make the image flattens out for me, and I have trouble feeling out the forms.

>>4020230
Twitter has been displaying your likes to your followers for at least the last 1.5 years. It's arguably a good feature and I have discovered a fair few artists thanks to people I already followed liking their work, it just sucks that you can't disable it or have something like a "private likes" feature akin to Pixiv.

How can I go about imitating the watercolor/gouache wash look in digital?

>>4020238
On that note, what is the difference between "Like" and "" on Pixiv? I've never really understood which one I should be using, or if I should be using both. Based on your phrasing I assume one of them is private and one is public?

>>4020293
Like and "Heart"*

>>4009797
Where the fuck is the reference thread, i need some face refs

>>4010521
Are you fucking retarded, or 14 years old? Everything you do at first, in life, will be shitty until you start getting better and then it's less shit.

You think anyone came to life knowing how to do shit?

You practice to get better and that you don't understand this basic idea means that you're either so out of touch with reality you're an actual retard, you haven't lived long enough to experience the basics of life, or you've been told you're amazing at everything by your lying fucking parents.

>>4020236
Read some clothed figure books, or chapters of clothed figures in figure books

>>4020281
Answering my own question, I found these:
https://tips.clip-studio.com/en-us/articles/1515

>>4010940
So youncan roast your past self for all yout life

>>4020293
"いいね!" or "Like" will only alert artist and show up under the image's stats, not displayed on your profile or seen by your followers or any visitors. The heart functions as a public bookmark unless you manually select the option to make it "private" when you edit the bookmark. Then that book mark will be visible only to you.

>>4016322
gotchu back senpai

>>4009797
how do i make it ASAP ?

Do i need a website for art? Portfolio style? Not looking to post daily or random sketches or is a blog style site better? Storyboard, comic book sequential art, logos and typography mainly.

What is other 'required' social media? I post on deviantart and considering moving to artstation. Do both? Instagram or twitter? How do you grow those without constant updates and interaction with other artists?

Does it makes sense to do dynamic sketching exercises on a slippery tablet?

When painting digitally should I do it in grey scale first and add colors and details on separate layers?
Or should I start painting in color?

My goal is to create environments and characters with the same atmosphere of From Software's Games.

How do I draw more free/sketch-like? I always see artists drawing what seems like so freely and in control without being robotic.
But whenever i draw it looks like a robot tried to use a pencil for the first time.

Is drawing in that free and sketchy way just from practice and mileage?

>>4021133
When you start out experimenting:
- Grayscale first -> muddy muted dull color.
- Color first -> simple and shallow values.
What you want to do is to tackle both, have color study, value study and start understanding both together. If you only pick one you are going to make the same mistake I do, thinking they're seperate entities and end up being shit at one of them constantly.

For the From Software stuff, prettyy sure its a combination of photobash and some level of overpainting. So if u wanna make From Soft art stuff, learn Photobash, overpaint to hide bashing details, learn atmospheric lighting, some post processing painting techniques. Also learn how to write and world building so your environment pieces can at least tell a little bit of stories.

Goodluck fag

pretty much practice and mileage. In my chinkchonk language being able to draw like that roughly translate to "drawing smart", which means you kinda have to understand what you're drawing and also have the built up muscle memory for the linework you're doing.
It's both about knowing how to draw good lines and the understanding the subject you're trying to draw.

>>4021146
>>4021137

Type 1 dia-beta cuck who lives in burgerland. Is it possible to get an art job that could cover my extravagant medication prices or at least offer me insurance? Or should I just get a stable job and side gig art.

>>4015862
Anybody?
>>4016353
Thanks, I'll look into that.

>>4021153
I heard most jobs are outsourced to 3rd worlders who are probably much better than you while asking for less, so ur best bet is getting a shitty stable job and grind exposure/skill until you can muster some income from art.

What are some good resources on learning about drawing environments? I haven't read much about perspective and I feel like there isn't much fundamentals about drawing environments beside perspective and composotion, but if there's more to it I would love to know it exists.

>>4021180
https://gumroad.com/krenzcushart
watch krenz lectures.

>>4021185
Thanks m8, I'll save this

>>4021185
Are they in english or have subs?

How do I learn how to draw characters freehand and make them accurate? I've been trying to study how to draw certain characters on-model but I don't know how or when I'll be able to draw them on my own.

When should i stop drawing skulls and move to asaro heads ?

>>4021200
have subs, pretty detailed aswell with translator's notes even.

>>4021210
when you feel confident about your drawing skull skill

>>4009799
marketing

what happened to sycra?

>>4021231
I guess im not feeling it yet ill give it another 50 skulls

Does anyone have experience with Watercolor? What supply should I buy to begin? (can't trust youtube since they might be paid to advertise certain brands)

>>4021298
He's on a hiatus on instagram, he's still uploading his Pointy Chins series on Patreon though.

where do you guy torrent paid classical art tuttorials?

I’m on the verge of a nervous breakdown. My best friend got injured in a car accident, my grandmother is dying. I’m working two part time gigs, one of them is really great and the other sucks ass. I’ve barely been able to sleep. I’m even more terrified of driving than I was before, and not getting my license makes me feel inadequate as a human being.
Is there any way that drawing could help me through this? I’m just desperate for some kind of normality, I don’t want this to be the new normal.

>>4010401
>>4010409
Baste phoneposter

What studies/exercises should a beginner be doing for figure drawing? I have LOOMIS but it just seems overly technical and doesn't really give me an idea of what I should be drawing.

What is the proper way to sit while drawing,

>>4021590
It's not like you have to have a driver's license, right? I'm 24 and I still haven't been in a situation when I even wished I had a car

>>4009797
>Tfw your artstyle differs every new canvas
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA how to stay consistent with 1 style

>>4021590
I didn't get my license until I was 24-25, I forget. I live in a city so everything is with in walking distance or I could take a bus. I didn't get my license until I moved out into the country to take care of my grandmother and drive her to the hospital. Having a car does have some down sides, everything can be expensive gas, maintenance, parking, God forbid if your car ever gets towed, it's a outrageous amount to pay. It does have some good sides, you can go anywhere at anytime. Looks good on a resume. Unfortunately humans are trash and there will be crazy drivers no matter where you are.

If you want to use drawing as a coping mechanism then draw something you like. Just don't think and draw whatever you want. Draw how ever you feel. You don't have to show it off if you don't want to.

How can I train my visual memory? I can't visualize my reference in my head

>>4021590
>>4021922
I find woodcarving has a lower barrier to entry. Hard to screw up. It is calming when you're making progress. Just know that most of it you're going to be alone with your thoughts.
Don't follow that conversation past >stem degree; depressing

What was the name of that site that gave you head references depending on the angle you selected?

Should I retweet my own art 10-12 hours after I've posted it for more people to see it?

>>4014302
How long does it usually take for them to respond, it'll be a week soon. I don't plan on giving them any numbers.

>>4021622
steve huston drawing the figure from NMA.

also if youre not able to stomach loomis you should probably forget the figure and go do dynamic sketching

>>4021660
The proper way is to stand.

>>4023186
http://referenceangle.com/ ?

What's a good way to practice body proportions on top of drawing from life? I want to make sure my legs and arms are the same length.

>>4023321
Know the proportions and keep them in mind when drawing, keep checking them while you are drawing to make sure they are correct, with time you should be able to tell if something is off or not about the them.

I just started drawing and people say that there's no difference between learning with paper and a tablet (a tablet won't make you draw better). However, I am wondering whether that is really true, given that drawing with a tablet would let me easily erase or adjust lines, and add colors. Basically add functionality that I don't have with paper. I understand that the fundamentals don't change regardless of whether it's paper or digital. But maybe the functionality would help progress faster? Maybe not, idk, this is a stupid questions thread.

As an aside, I know about the danger of getting the habit of drawing a shitty line and erasing it and repeating that 10 times for each line until you get it right. I try to draw lines properly the first time.

Are the Watts Atelier online courses good? It's $99/month for the drawing one. Can you just do one month and download everything then cancel?

how the fuck do hair work?
I mean the hair arrangement on the skull, why can't I find anything on this wtf
Some women seem to have a line where everything originate from, for some it's a point origine
Or do they not have any and it grows equally on the whole head?

>>4023944
someone already did that its in cgpeers

Anyone know how to go about layering feathers like this in a photoshop illustration?

>>4024084
paint darker colours for the base shape
paint highlights for feather details

Are there any resources or guides for creatures and monster designs?

what the fuck does "style" mean anymore. Every time I see a stylized work it's dismissed as "yeah that's just a variant on anime/disney/tumblr/concept art". Of course there are styles out there that are legitimately unique, but in the scope of internet artists, I'm getting the impression that "style" is increasingly prevalent yet meaningless.

>>4024120
videogame artbooks

>>4024170
When it comes to /ic/ the term "style" is relatively meaningless like soul vs soulless. Just another word to say you like or dislike something without knowing why. No one here knows enough about drawing to articulate why a style is good or not and yet is obsessed with using it to judge everything. /begs/ are also more obsessed with style than judging art on the skill and craftsmanship that went into it.

>>4024043
The line or dot you see on the top of the head is not a point of origin, but a parting direction. Hair strands grows almost complete evenly within the hair area.

Try to first visualize the hair as a hedgehog, with each strand stiffly pointing straight up. Then loosen, part, comb and style them. How you do that will determine how the hair looks and where the parting line will be visible.

I had the same kind of misconception when I was learning hair. Maybe watch some ZBrush FiberMesh tutorials to get a better visualization.

>>4024170
a style is simply a unifying element across all artworks. Anyone attempting to define it differently just doesn't know what they're talking about.

Anyone know what the hell this paperclip icon on PaintTool SAI is for? Clicking on it will toggle the icon, but I can't figure what the hell it does.

It's not for layer clipping btw, that is activated with a different button.

>>4024170
For the first one its probally because /ic/ gets a lot of 'does any one know this style' posts when its just art that slightly diverges from the norm or something to specific to pinpoint. For the second one the internet idea of 'style' doesn't exist in the classical 'renisance style'/'abstract style' because its usually a movement not what one person makes. But an internet version of a 'style' is how one diverges from reality in their art. Ex
>Why are anime eyes so big? AKA not like reality
>Because its their style.
This has lead to the slippery slope of
>You made a mistake AKA you diverged from reality
>Its my style
The word is also meaningless because a bunch of beginners use it to try and make their work unique or, as stated before, a crutch.

>>4024196
thanks for the quick answer anon, that parting stuff really left me confused

>>4024189
Yeah it's certainly just a meme about quality on /ic/ but even outside of this shithole internet art style seems to be overcentralised. That's more of what I mean over "style good/bad." You can look at a majority of art and tell that the artist is from tumblr, watches a certain anime, or admires the splash art in League or whatever. It's like the influences on style are too few, common, and obvious; it's too easy to compare it with something preexisting. Yes there exist some truly unique ones but with the internet and all it really does feel like it's coming down to "nothing is original anymore". Although that's just my personal experience.

>>4024216
Maybe these videos would help clear up the confusion
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTkQ4-s5xNk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xbi_iqk0FZI&start=1206
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WVusj-KYZw

ok bros here's my stupid question
what kinda brush was used for the lines in pic related?

>>4024257
1px brushes...
could be vector lines (pen tool) or stroke blending mode seeing how smooth it is.

>>4024257
>all those appeal spot
muh dick, watery is so based
also for your question, he uses lasso fill
check his stream on twitch

>>4024257
hard round brush

>>4009797
I can do studies decently well, but the skill never seems to translate into my own art. I'm close to professional skill level at linework/comicking stuff, but nowhere near good enough a painter to make a living doing it, and those are the only skills the western world cares about for most art jobs.

Will continuing to do this eventually make me decent? I understand anatomy and all of that stuff, and that painting needs to be treated like you're working with clay, etc, but my non-referenced paintings are just straight garbage.

Here's a study from earlier today. No reference painting soon to follow.

>>4024327
and here's an attempt that I gave up on on painting a character I sketched.

Most of the painting was done with the linework off, it just looks terrible. There's no point in painting if painting is a downgrade from a plain quick sketch.

>>4024328
Another one from reference, came out nice.

>>4024332
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sG1FEA7IH9w

>>4024341
Thanks this has answered my question.

>>4024343
>>4024341
Also i'm retarded and didn't get the reference until I actually looked at my study again. Sorry anon, your humor is appreciated.

how the fuck do people paint on just 1 layer like pic related? yes, its one layer (pretty effects are obviously a second) but i never understood how they managed to keep the form from going all sloppy and shitty

>>4024245
the first one did when he moves the parting line at the end
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Here can I find commissions for stuff other than characters?

I have a Starship for a Tabletop game I wanted to see if I could find someone to draw it. But all I have found are +200 commission rates for characters.

>>4011366
Try to simplify into the most basic 3d shapes. And then start adding detail

>>4011796
I draw on A5 cuz mostly I'll bring it around anywhere I go

What's the best figure drawing set of brushes for photoshop?

>>4023298
yeah, that's the one, thanks

Is there some kind of good likes / followers ratio on twitter?

>>4024328
Stop using airbrush.

>>4025032
>stop rendering in a way that i dont like

How do i stopped ejaculating when drawing porn? I don't even get hard or excited, i just orgasm out of nowhere and have to change my underwear. Though i think it's only precum since not a lot comes out

Does anyone have an archive of deerchip's nsfw works saved? he closed his nsfw blog and deleted everything. So my only hope is that someone hoarded the pictures.

>>4025061
Stop being twelve.

>>4025037
Okay, stay ngmi forever, I don't care.

>>4025139
You make it sound like you will ever make it

>>4025164
Disregard my advice, I'm just a /beg/, render the way you like. Who knows what's wrong with your rendering, it's really hard to tell just by looking at it.

What is objectively the best way to draw a potatoe? Do I start by drawing two ellipses and then draw contour lines going down through the shape?

>>4024722
just email them and ask

>>4024328
I think you might be going overboard on airbrush. I only ever use it for softening the edges of some already shaded areas or adding a light layer of blush.

>>4025208
Maybe you shouldn’t give advices as a beg then

What are the advantages and disadvantages of switching my instagram from a personal to a business account?

>>4024328

Did you blend at all or just airbrush everything. You have to blend.

what type of studying does one have to do to be able to draw like Daigo Ikeno.

>4025661
How do you stylized from a reference?
I don't want to be another photo copier but I have to fight a part of my brain that says if you don't photocopy then it's not good.
Does help I have the western semi-realism anime shit style that feels a bit too uncanny at times.

Reposting this here in hope of some decent advice.

>>4025222
Ellipse without stabilization

>>4025495
You get to look at your stats with a business account

>>4010415
Moron alert

>>4021122
You'll get used to it with time.

i'm 90% interested in painting, be it oil, gouache or whatever. This said, should I get actually good with a pencil before moving to painting or should I get the basics (perspective, shades, lights, etc) with pencil and jump into painting?

>>4009797
Does NGMI imply you'll never be good or you'll never be employed. I've seen it used in both senses here but on other boards it typically means getting good.

>>4027148
Well if your not good you'll never be employed or have a successful patreon without doing bizarre fetish art.

>>4027162
Thats just what I don't understand. Is what that determines if you're good or bad if you profit from your work, and then does that mean that the barrier to making it is making profit?

For you guys that make comics, do you guys write out your text or just add text in paint?

>>4027172
To A LOT of people, yes. Money to most is the ultimate goal.
To others it's to be on the same level of skill as their idols. To work long side them or in the same company. To work at a company they admire.
Maybe to draw perfectly what they envision in their mind. To tell a story, to express themselves.
There is no one set answer to art, it's a individual basis of what it means to make it.

>>4027172
>>4027224
To continue:
Just ask yourself, why do you want to draw? What about drawing makes you happy? Where do you want to go with it? How will you achieve it?
Everyone has different goals and ideals. They want to accomplish different styles. Don't feel like you have to do what everyone else is doing, if that's not what you want.
Ngmi shouldn't be taken seriously. It's just a insult, it's not constructive criticism. It's probably said by someone who is bitter and unhappy. So why would you want to listen to someone like that? Why do you want to please those people, waste time with them? Everyone has a different pace and learns different. Not everyone has good intentions. Just try to have fun with art.

>>4027224
>>4027254
Thank you both. I needed this. I can't really describe how I was feeling but I guess I forgot that we are all different with different goals and I shouldn't try to fit into other peoples goals.

Thank you again, I really appreciate it.

>>4027206
I use clip paint studio mostly. Sometimes i just write them myself with an ames lettering guide. Depends what type of effect i want and time limit to complete.

is true that an SDD make photoshop faster than a HDD even if not have that much space?
In this days an SDD is really cheap in the 140gb-240gb range so i was thinking in buy one and use my old HDD for save the files that i'm not using, like finished works and all that.

For posting art on social media, would it be better to specialize, like only draw art of one subject or fandom? I feel like I see bigger accounts doing this pretty often

Are these non-toxic? I.e. do they have cadmium, lead, etc.

>>4027870
Everytime you're trying to read or write from a hard drive, an SSD will be faster. Most notable difference you'll see is during start up.

More importantly you can designate a scratch disk (and set a size obviously) for Photoshop. This disk portion will be used when there's no space left in your RAM.

For example, you designate 8GB of RAM to Photoshop, and 100GB on a scratch disk. While PS is running, it will store portions of the document, document history, etc in RAM. This increases in size as the document gets more complex (or large) so let's say PS needs 15 GB to store your amazing, 6 foot by 9 foot painting while your work on it. It will store 8GB in RAM and the remaining 7GB on your scratch disk.

Since SSDs are much faster when it comes to read/write operations, writing and then reading from that 7GB on your scratch disk will be super fast compared to an HDD scratch disk.

PS: Scratch Disk is a setting in Photoshop not a designated type of drive. You can find more info here: https://helpx.adobe.com/photoshop/kb/optimize-photoshop-cc-performance.html

>>4028265
>Most notable difference you'll see is during start up

What I meant is "most notable difference you'll see when using most software that's stored on the SSD is during startup of said software". Or, if you have your OS on the SSD, then you'll notice a great improvement while booting up.

>>4028254
They are very toxic, my brother died because of them.

So my fellow fan artist, how many of you guys constantly keep up with your target franchise? Or do you focus more on productivity and put the new release lore and stuff aside?

>>4028382
Kek

is this KJG? i was told by a friend it's not and its some guy on artstation but i can't find anything with reverse search and it looks a lot like KJG's work

>>4028382
This is serious dude, I don't want fucking poison in my house.

>>4028436
Lots of shit is poison, don’t eat your trash bags or you may suffocate.

>>4028453
>Lots of shit is poison
Not in my house.

>>4028254
>>4028436
>>4028457
I'm confused what is the problem? If you don't eat them why worry?
Are you just like against certain materials ever entering your home?

>>4028476
>Are you just like against certain materials ever entering your home?
Yes.
> If you don't eat them why worry?
Pencils make dust and if it has toxic materials it goes straight into my lungs.

>>4028490
That's fair
I don't shit about trad materials, but wouldn't pencils be produced with that in mind?
Anyway there has to be some way to find out what they're made of

>>4028254
yeah its pretty toxic, it kept flaming me when im carrying its ass

why do people yell crabs on /ic/

>>4024206
it pins the layers, so you can move and edit them together, can even pin folders

>>4028254
Yes, they are toxic. But they are fucking pencils, dude, they don't produce dust in the air, they don't even stain your hands and clothes. Honestly, even extra soft pastels are virtually harmless, and you're worried about pencils.

>>4028565
>Yes, they are toxic
That's too bad. Fucking hell, I just want watercolor pencils.

>>4028570
try apple pencil

>>4028571
Additional iPad is required.

>>4028573
Only if you want to charge it, otherwise you can just one off use it.

They are disposible and meet the eco compliance standards for recycling

>>4028573
buy one ?

>>4028589
Is the ipad pro + pen even any good?

>>4028596
yeah the pen is more responsive than wacom and procreate have a good brush engine, the only drawback is not being able to use more than 20 layers for a print sized piece

>>4028570
Buy latex gloves, a respirator and plastic goggles. I know a guy who tried drawing with watercolour pencils like this, and he was mostly fine, just mild diarrhea and balding, he died of unrelated causes (touched some paper that wasn't 100% acid free, it left nasty burns on his fingers, and it happened when he was operating a paper knife... it was a gruesome death).

>>4028600
I'd also need another house.

>>4028599
How well does wacom or ipad drawing skills tranfer to traditional pencil + paper? Does drawing hours on a tablet ruin the skill of using a pencil or does it enhance it?

>>4028619
most of the skills transfers. you always see digital artists in gaming conventions doing sketches for their fans

>>4028625
Maybe I will buy one then, maybe I will.

I want a large collection of images of old master sculptures and studies of the figure, not full paintings. Is there a good archive of this stuff anywhere?

>>4028754
maybe in pinterest, i dont know, anyway you can always do the compilation by yourself, you just need to read some art history and catch all the sculpt artist relevant, even in wikipedia you can find a lot.
From figure studies maybe is better find an already done complilation, that looks like more work

i wanna make animation. do you think this would be a good art style to animate with?

Why are people so obsessed with draw boxes? What is it good for?
I understand it's for leaning perspective, vanishing points and shapes. But that's what some people seem to be only studying, they don't really go anywhere with it. Like shouldn't it be used to apply to architecture or somthing? I just it to help with forced perspective from time to time.

>>4024609
How do you think people paint in traditional, fucking digital only fags

>>4029065
Learn the fundamentals of anatomy before drawing cartoony shit, you’ll know what to emphasize.

>>4029065
>All this detail and hair
You can try it but it will take you a few weeks to do about 10 seconds

>>4029065
those feet are extremely unappealing

>>4024609
I'm one of those fags. I honestly dont really understand the point of a bunch of layers. When I use ce shading I'll use multiple. I'm just now learning of the different layer settings.

>>4024609
Just try it, it's not that hard. You can always fix anything by painting over it.

Is there a name for this style of art?

>>4028047
That's how it works from what I've seen, even a /beg tier artist can get a lot of follower with enough work, marketing and socializing. NSFW work seems to be an exception though because people only cares about tiddies and not the characters.

Do you think i'll notice a substantial difference from the CTL 450 (middle) to the Intuos pro (right)?

>>4029625
No. I still use my Intuos3 and it's still the best Wacom tablet ever produced. "Newness" means nothing with planned obsolescence (shitty nibs, shitty surfaces) becoming more and more common. Meanwhile my tablet is over a decade old and like new and cost 50 dollars

>>4029273
I dunno. I'd call it an illustrative abstract or a contemporary illustrative abstract.

>>4029633
what about in terms of size? the ctl is small whilst the intuos is medium

>>4009797
How did i fuck up this exercise so badly?

>>4028436
>>4028490
Have you thought about either a fume hood (theoretically, they're like 3k) or a woodshop dust collection system?
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=dust+removal+system
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ni1Pf-wwo0

>>4028519
"crabs in a bucket"
>>4029273
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horror_vacui
Not actually what it's called but a fun word

Is there a place where you can drop psd files for other artist to finish/continue projects. I have something I began a while back, came back to it today it’s 85% finished (a majority of what left is a background which isn’t critical and can simply be a pattern) but I have no will power to finish it. It is meant to be a gift to some random teenage girl with a deformity I stumbled across, i’d hate to just forget about this piece after I put in so much work.

>>4029712
You drew it upside down

Does anyone know how to install two different tablet drivers on the same computer, they both use wintab so I have to re-install the drivers each time I switch them.

>>4029712
Just try again anon. Most things don't go right on the first try.

Am I gonna make it bros?

>>4030053
No.

what specs do i need to make high res digital paintings?

is it safe to have a drawing tablet on your lap I don't want to have retarded sperm cells

>>4030466
Just don't do it while drawing anime.

How do I get consistent with line art? I can never seem to be unless I stress on every line I make at a snails pace otherwise there will always be a noticeable difference. It irks me since I believe if anyone can make something once they should be able to reproduce it again flawless and easily as if it were natural without ref like during the first time it was made. But I just can't. Is not using construction lines a cause for this problem?

Is there any way to locate where traffic comes from on your Instagram??

I lurk my ex-employer's art page for the lulz, it's been a year and I just go on his profile every other day to check what he's been up to (we don't follow each other though). Today I discovered he blocked me out of the blue. We didn't interact for a whole year so idk what's up. Pretty sure he doesn't have any business account features, he has just 1K followers. I know he hates me but why block me now, all of a sudden

Do you ever draw for other boards? I am hesitating on practicing by going and taking requests from /vg/ threads.

Where the fuck would I find Fashion Catalogues? I'm trying to get better at drawing clothing on my characters that isnt a tshirt and jeans but I have no idea where to look, and /fa/ rarely focuses on outfits people would *actually* wear

I understand Loomis is too help develop construction of the figure. But those huge walls of text are such a turn off. Is there a condense or straight to the point guide of human anatomy/Loomis?