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Can we help save the world through art?

Today the government has more power than ever beofore, people are suffering because of extreme taxation and they even want to be taxed to death thanks to propaganda and identity politics, humanity is better than ever but we're venturing into a new dark ages where people want to obey the will of the emperor and give him unlimited power over their lives.

Can we get so good that we get the attention from everyone and force them to accept ideals of freedom represented in our art just because they can't deny our skill?
Is this the endgame of getting good?

>> No.4018336

>>4018335
Yes.
But how do you know what’s “good”?

>> No.4018337

>>4018335
>>>/pol/
go away!

>> No.4018339

>>4018335
God, I wish Napoleon was still alive, I miss him so much.

>> No.4018345

>>4018336

Freedom from the government, voluntary relations rather than FORCED ones, would you disagree?

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4018353

>>4018336

>> No.4018354

>>4018353

This is bait, in the end this is just toalitarian leftist shit, not better than communism.

>> No.4018357

>>4018354
Why do you think Hitler was a leftist? I do agree he was a totalitarian but I don't believe him to be a leftist.

>> No.4018360

just waiting for this pathetic thread to be sidetracked with more libertarian bullshit and the muh age of consent crowd to come out

>> No.4018368

>>4018335
Political art hasn't mattered since the days of the Medicis.

>> No.4018374

>>4018335
You would need someone who is in their purest essence a capital G God at art and philosophy. Someone who has enough mass appeal to become a global household name, someone with enough skill to relentlessly captivate an entire generation, someone clear minded enough to never let his message be misconstrued or denied, and someone with enough force of will to never succumb to outside forces and never be bought out.
These people do exist and maybe it's possible that they can even be made, but the issue is clearing enough space for them to come into being. Politicians, bureaucrats, activists, ideologues, religious leaders, and any other manner of idea pusher would want that kind of artist dead or lobotomized asap.
>>4018345
>voluntary relations rather than FORCED ones
I'm going to go on a limb and assume that this phrase actually means a forced set of global ethnostates.
This post can't mean that you want people to have the ability to pick their own friends, because not even the most sickening SJW has tried to push people to have a diverse friend group. So then you must be referring to something on a more meta scale such certain undesirable minorities being allowed to move into certain neighborhoods, or on a bigger scale the same undesirable minorities immigrating to certain countries in the first place.
>>4018357
Can you and him not have that argument? If we're going to have a /pol/ thread we might as well do it over bigger issues instead of whining over who wears which team jersey in society's never-ending dick swinging contest

>> No.4018380

>>4018374
>This post can't mean that you want people to have the ability to pick their own friends, because not even the most sickening SJW has tried to push people to have a diverse friend group.
Even the mildest neolib "leftist" forces diversity in co-workers and customers so no.
Not quoted either.

>> No.4018393

>>4018380
>Even the mildest neolib "leftist" forces diversity in co-workers and customers so no.
My fault for my poor assumption then.
But if I'm being honest I'm not opposed to these ideas so I guess I overlooked them.

>> No.4018396

>>4018393
>But if I'm being honest I'm not opposed to these ideas so I guess I overlooked them.
That much was obvious from your post.
Hardly anyone cares enough to start criticizing words like that unless they're part of the affirmative action/gender-quota clique.

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>>4018335
i see youre a man of extraordinary scholarship and a fellow traveller as well

i made a thread about this subject on /liberty/ and an anon pointed out that the best subversive art is not to direct or forthcoming.. ie preachy

like pic related which is just an artist trying to capitalize on a specific audience.. glorified furry porn (i still like it)

/liberty/res/104292.html

the empire is about to strike back on cryptocurrency btw munachin basically said theyre planning a crackdown which actually will be good because it would just speed up adoption of decentralized exchanges

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>>4018353
didnt make it and through a temper tantrum

>>4018357
it doesnt matter if he was a leftist (he was) but what matters is the alt right fag bois which are falling for this shit to accept authoritarianism and socialism while being an effective boogeyman to recruit leftists

the following are real posts that i saved from /pol/ where they are talking about national socialism as just leftism for white people

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there was that thing recently about FBI agents posing as natsoc boyyos on /pol/ recently so they really do serve a purpose

>> No.4018411

>>4018345
Ancaps are fucking morons. post work autist.

>> No.4018426

>>4018396
>Hardly anyone cares enough to start criticizing words like that unless they're part of the affirmative action/gender-quota clique.
Well now you're making assumptions just like I was. Not everything is a dichotomy.
Simply put to agree with the idea that businesses should always be able to choose their customers with whatever bias they have means that websites like 4chan can't exist because the entire market can just exile anything it doesn't like. You're basically saying that the market can enslave or kill anyone or anything it likes at any point in time with no recourse.
Diversity of co-workers is a bit harder to defend since both extremes are immensely harmful. Having no regulations means that certain groups can just get removed from the economic system but you go too hard and you're handicapping yourself by not being able to always employ the most qualified person.

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>>4018335
No.

>> No.4018465

>>4018335
Whatever I create I always avoid drawing people being angry with each other or fighting. I wish everyone would have more respect for one another, no matter the race, gender, religion or political option. There are ways to express even very unpopular opinions that incite discussion instead of a war.

>> No.4018477

>>4018426
>Having no regulations means that certain groups can just get removed from the economic system
Regulations are leading to just that. Try finding a genuine lower class white employed in south africa or in late higher education in the US. Now look at the same for quota:ed ethnic groups.

>> No.4018493

>>4018477
Do you think I'm not opposed to that or something? People being removed from the economic system for superficial reasons is unacceptable

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4018494

>>4018336
Libertarian Marxism.

By the way; time for a study.

>> No.4018497

>>4018493
>Do you think I'm not opposed to that or something?
I think most people who are ultimately responsible would claim the same.
Right before they go back to voting for the politicians who try and push through legislation in it's favor.

>> No.4018502

>>4018494
>posts a bolshevik in denial who wrote "oh gosh I just can't" but in reality went with her fellow jews and tried to coup ethnic germans out of power in their own country
Were it not for the Spartacists the Nazis would not have come to power.

>> No.4018503

>>4018497
>Right before they go back to voting for the politicians who try and push through legislation in it's favor.
Good thing I've never voted for any such politicians then. Nice try at that gotcha though

>> No.4018509

>>4018493
who determines when something is superficial or not? pretty sure it's the economy itself that has final judgment there. not sure how that's ever superficial. like calling the extinction of a species a superficial decision by nature. fucking what.

also reporting this thread cause politics is off-topic.

>> No.4018512

>>4018335
No. Art is something luxurious and doesn’t have enough impact or power to change the world.
Be an engineer, scientist, politician or even a teacher if you want to impact the world.

>> No.4018513

>>4018502
>posts a bolshevik in denial who wrote "oh gosh I just can't"
What's that supposed to mean?
>but in reality went with her fellow jews
She became atheist in life and never saw herself as ethnically "Jewish". She saw herself as Polish and in protest about Germanification wrote

>"he Prussian government has performed a new assault on the Polish people! The regulation enacted by Minister of Education Studt removed the last remnants of the Polish language from the schools of the city of Poznan, the last remaining subject taught in Polish, Religious Education, will be taught in German from now on! Our children, who spend half the day at school, will no longer hear a single word in the language of their people, the language of their fathers and mothers. Education, the intellectual nourishment for life, which they are supposed to absorb in school, will be presented to them in a language that is completely strange and unintelligible to them! Are these not outrageous circumstances? The schools were founded for this purpose, the people send their children to school, so they can absorb the light of science, so they grow into knowledgeable, educated people, for their own benefit and for their country’s joy. In Poznan, however, school will not serve the education of the children, but turn them into spiritual cripples, who do not know their own nationality and language, not to sow the seed of knowledge and civilization, but for the violent spread of German identity."

Try harder /pol/tard. The idea of "Jewish" communism kinda falls flat when there were few communist regimes who outright dispelled Jews. For example in Poland, Jews had to leave universities in 1968.

>> No.4018517

>>4018513
>She became atheist in life a
*She became an atheist later in her life*