/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

honestly if we knew we would be making waifus.

try to mimic their process as much as possible.

>>4015349
>>4015372
THEY DRAW FROM LIFEEEEEEEEEEE AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>4015349
draw more

>>4015349
>Lineart drawn at a high resolution with a relatively thin brush
>body colors have a warm, inviting palette. Even the Black bikini top has pinkish hues in it. The blue of the background contrasts with the warm foreground, making it pop.
>Shading done with a round brush to give it a smooth look. Most of the shadows are large and simple, which adds to the aesthetic appeal (ex. the shadows on the stomachs). Additional shading details are donw with a soft brush with a color very similar to the base skin tone, and are done sparingly (ex. The shadow on the left girl's deltoid and her abdominals) a hard round brush is used to add a few subtle highlights (ex. the spots of light on the breasts, the shoulders, and the noses)
>Lineart is colored in with a slipping/masking layer to match the warm hues of the skin

>>4015385
"anime was a mistake"

>>4015349
Could you please post an example?

>>4015349
That foreshortening is really fucked up.

>>4015385
Shut the fuck up

>>4015404
Hey, don't talk to my friend that way you stupid bitch.

>>4015404

>>4015385
op asked how to do a certain style, not become a better artist.
your advice is as vague as practice more.

>>4015349
hard round brush + soft eraser

>>4015388
Only useful response here.

>>4015432
only worthless post here

>>4015433
I know your post is worthless already.

>>4015438

I know your post is but what about mine?

>>4015349
Less is more. Nips don't do that gross over-rendered thing that westerners do.

>>4015442
lol have you seen pixiv lately
the most popular arts are the ones that are over-rendered and full of flashy background effects

>>4015349

Flat colors over photos, using symbols everywhere to get rid of bothersome detail.

>>4015431
so simple! where has this gif and the artist been all my life?

>>4015431
Source of this gid? Any other alike from the same source? I really like it.

>>4015431
Which would be the "hard round brush" in Clip Studio Paint?

>>4015679
prob dense watercolor

>>4015679
Default oil paint brush

>>4015431
>spend hours shading
>looks like shit
>this faggot does it in 4 brush strokes
I hate my life.

>>4015372
LITERALLY DREW THE REST OF THE FUCKING OWL AAAAAH

>>4015372
NO NO NO NO THEY MAKE IT SO EASY WHY DOES IT TAKE ME HOURS REEEEEEE

>>4015679
Download one off Assets. The Dense and Opaque Watercolor brushes don’t have the exact same function as a PS Hard round. I suppose you could also fashion one out of the Markers, with anti-aliasing turned on.

>>4015372
>b-but muh construction!

>>4015734
After a long enough time drawing, you can do it mostly in your head. Notice there's still construction lines on the face. That knowledge doesn't come out of nowhere, anon.

>>4015734
there is construction though. you're just too brainlet to spot it.

>>4015778
They also draw just enough of the body underneath to estimate the proportions of the rest of the body parts so they can just draw the clothes around where those would be.

Here is a link to Mika Pikazo's videos from pixiv sensei: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1L9u8Bek8hcMay1IaYXV4bGuBaeRomiX3
Uploading more later.

>>4015798
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1WgWmjBP731kZ3zsKFwMyC7YDbTetDSTn?usp=sharing

I added Anmi and Amamitsuki's videos. I found them helpful when I watched them. but it is mostly just using the hard round brush.

I posted this in another thread too, but anyone know what kind of brush is this? Is it a variation of the csp oil paint flat brush?
>>4013698

another video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-Km-utNHrU

>>4015372

>>4015349
If you think Asians have a magical skill just because YOU cant do it, well then that’s just coping from a NGMI individual like yourself.

>>4015886
Where did that magical skill bullshit come from? Obviously it's just a technique, retard.

>>4015898
Maybe Asians draw better than you because they actually spend time drawing instead of crabbing on /ic/ all day

>>4015906
Practice what you preach

>>4015349
Copying from photographs

>Just draw the owl bro!

Into the fucking trash

>>4015349
YOU CALL THIS CLEAN?
I suppose you're joking so whatever.

>>4015926
Post clean art.

>>4015349
Holy shit, look at the clavicles on the right, the legs on the left. Why the fuck do you people with shit taste like to get in our way so much with your threads about how gigantic losers you are?

>>4015349
>clean

>muh rendering
FUCK NORMIES

>>4015929
Anything with actual lineart and colors inside it

>>4015932
>Coloring
Read before you come here spouting shit like an idiot.

>>4015941
You can't even draw something that looks real in black and white. If you could you wouldn't waste everyone's time with this stupid thread.

>>4015946
>Coloring
Keep on topic or fuck off.

>>4015948
You don't even know what values are you dumb shit. If you can't render something in grayscale you can't do it with color. OR ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT HUE HERE? Stop lying to yourself and go learn the fundamentals. And please stop making threads with retarded questions about shit drawings.

THIS IS ACTUAL ADVICE. If you wanna render like that, learn to do it in grayscale first.

>>4015962
Take your meds.

>>4015883
Dont lose that love

>>4015711
>>4015717

they take hours. I just wish one of them would make a real time tutorial in english.

simple 2-3 tone monochrome value layer, paint over, and blend tools. Then apply additional lighting details with paintover on top and apply quick dirty blending to sort of smush it all together.

also like they understand form and stuff and if you don't you cant do it.

>>4015798
>>4015815
Cheers anon.

>>4015388
Thanks for the pointers anon.

>>4015349
By being absolutely shit in everything else.

>>4015397
Anime is the way Japan gets its revenge on the entire world after the burgers dropped two bombs on it.

>>4015898
>Asians have thinner arms than I do.
>Girls have thinner arms than I do.
>That must mean they are more precise than I am.
>Put them together and that is the winning combination as opposed to my gorilla arms.
>This most definitely makes sense because handwriting.

>>4016799
What's "everything else"?

>>4015372
MY
ENVY
LEVELS
ARE
RIIISSSINNNNGGGGGGG

>>4016849
The shit that no one cares about

>>4015883
Why do you keep saike dude.
You do have good taste but please stop making saike look bad.

>>4015442
Mate... You do not know what illustrators are popular in Japan do you.

>How do nips do it?
This fucking phrase again. If you'd look beyond your weeb echo-chamber for once, you'd realize that koreans are the true top artist.

>>4015349
same thread every day. try sacrificing a village worth of ppl maybe you will get the art skills you're looking for, alternatively you can actually practice but we all know you dont want to do that

>>4015679
https://assets.clip-studio.com/en-us/detail?id=1713708

I use this one, it's pretty close

>>4015431
This has to be fake.

>>4015934

Conservation of detail is real nice and draws your eyes to the place they are supposed to be drawn, the boobies I mean the face.

>>4015431
Based as fuck.

>>4015679
Why doesn't CSP have a hard round brush?
Is it possible to make one yourself?

>>4017265
Closest thing is the Felt Pen.

>>4015372
It’s good to know the webm I ripped is making waves

>>4015349
they actually d r a w, instead of spending all day asking for advice that they'll end up ignoring anyway

>>4017298
based furry thread art process anon
that thread is a art goldmine

>>4017402
can you share that thread anon ?

>>4017407
It’s still up

>>4008919

>>4015385
draw from deez nutz

>>4016937
you can try it for yourself, but seeing as you're viewing this on ic/ you probably don't test things out.

>>4015372
What the fuck happened between 0:11 and 0:16???

>>4017947
Japanese witchcraft.

>>4017947
colored it with gradient maps

>>4015431
please source, anon

>>4017947
King Crimson activated

>>4015388
Pearl of wisdom.

>>4015431
The 5-hour render Virgin vs the 2-stroke Chad

>>4015526
>>4018124
sorry i have no idea, i found it on russki 2ch

>>4015349
Their arms don't look foreshortened, more like horrendously mishaped stumps

>>4016897
+1

>>4018684
Redline it

>>4015388
I feel bad because I already knew this, except I'm unable to draw like that

>>4015431
up, we must find source

>>4016937
why would you even say that when you can see him do it you goofball

>>4018684
>>4018775
i can see it too
a few things that stood out to me

1. on the left, the upper arm. judging by the length in the image, her arm should be coming out towards the viewer at a fairly shallow angle.
the depth cues (line overlap, shadows) on her breasts indicate that the breasts are in front of the arm instead, which just makes the upper arm just look short.

2. bracelet angle kinda looks mismatched to the arm it's placed on, also making it look short (im on the fence about this one)

3. probably something to do with the hand angle and connection to the forearm, but I can't really pinpoint the issue

>>4019178
i wanna see sauce too

>>4015349
Unironically mastering Loomis before simplifying/exaggerating the features.

>>4017265
I just use Marker Pen with Opacity set to pen pressure.

>>4015864
Just looks like an elliptical with opacity set to pressure.

>>4015679
>>4017265
literally a brush with a round tip and opacity/density dynamics on or both
it's the easiest thing ever to make, also every brush in the watercolor section is technically a hard round. just disable border of watercolor option and mixing.

>>4015711
it's literally the same process of sketching a rough pose then refining it, like everyone else does on this earth.

>>4015734
for one, they did construct the head.
also construction isn't something you have to do every single time. it's there to help you if you're struggling and to make you understand concepts. if you're experienced enough you don't need it all the time

>>4016897
-1

>>4018773
>>4021561

>>4017305
delet

>>4017402
it's shit

>>4015431
>eraser
>guy literally picking a lighter color to paint over it
>also unironically thinking that's a hard round instead of a special nip blend-paint brush using a round tip specifically to fool begs

ic is literally a nuartist haven

there is nothing hard about it. your problem is you start painting when you don't have a good drawing.
the hard part is drawing not the color. paint with soft brushes by masking the shapes with lasso tool so that the edges are clean. make sure to go warmer towards the shadows or it will look muddy. also when you make a color warmer you have to change the hue not just the saturation. other wise it will look muddy.
but even if you are a great colorist you still need good drawing for it to look good

there is nothing hard about it. your problem is you start painting when you don't have a good drawing.
the hard part is drawing not the color. paint with soft brushes by masking the shapes with lasso tool so that the edges are clean. make sure to go warmer towards the shadow. when you make a color warmer you have to change the hue not just the saturation. other wise it will look muddy.
but even if you are a great colorist you still need good drawing for it to look good

i want to cum on an atelier anime so bad!!! AAAAAAAAHHHHWOOOOOOOOO

>>4021623
Yep. If you look close most Pixiv artists have minimal/sloppy colouring but the drawings and colour schemes are what pull them off.

>>4017947
simple
>make a sketch
>drop base colors on a layer below the sketch
>do really rough value work just to get some good colors to pick up
>make a layer on top of everything and refine the sketch by color picking and painting over the linework

>>4015349
see of the artist has a patreon. if you are lucky, their process is well explained

>>4016873
I unironically dont (not him btw)
tell me about them

>>4015349
Another weebshit thread...please, no matter how hard you try you just can't mimic anime. Hands too.different, techniques too different. Try as you might, at the end of the day, your a self hating western faggot so desperate to be "supa kawai" you lose sight of having actual style.

The sooner you develop your own style the better you end up being unique.

Tl;dr = STOP BEING A FUCKING FUCKING RIP OFF AND LEARN HE FUNDIES!

>>4024665
agree, same thing goes with the steven universe bullshit

>>4024650
is it worth the 10$

>>4015815
Great videos, really helps deconstruct everything

>>4024669
Based as fuck.

>>4024665
The whole japanese industry is about imitating a certain trendy style. That's why they copy a lot. To learn it. Many of them don't have this mentality of "I need to be so original, I need to find my own style". Also, copying and studying a style does not exclude one from studying fundamentals. They're different practices.

>>4024665
I'll rip your face off little faggot.

>>4015372
>cleaning up the sketch instead of doing another layer

I knew it

>>4019505
nice overpaint
but still weebs dont give a shit about mistakes like this they jsut wanna see big booby

>>4015815
Thank you anon. Do you know any videos where artist shade boobs or some other round body shape, i'm having a hard time undrestanding how to do it. Similar to this webm. >>4015431

>>4015934
hmmmm

>>4026678
Do you know how to shade a sphere

>>4015717
> WHY DOES IT TAKE ME HOURS
Because they've spent thousands of hours drawing. Of course they are good at that. You, in comparison, spent thousands of hours shitposting. Unfortunately, your shitposting sucks.

>>4027078
nice projection shitter

>>4021614
>picking a lighter color to paint over it

this fucking ngmi doesnt even know how color realtions work. Go read some James Gurney and then come back.

>>4024687
not really desu and it's only slightly worth it if you use procreate to get her brushes.

>>4015372
What this anon said >>4015385
What the artist in that webm is most likely doing is looking at an IRL pose for reference and laying down the landmarks before slowly putting it together. After a while of doing this (since the artist is clearly experienced) they get used to the flow and can easily draw a face with little construction.
You can see they start really rough but then clean it up more and more as they go along.
If they aren't using a ref, then it's very possible to do this easy ass pose with enough practice. There's no perspective and it's just a standing anime girl with one arm raised. They just have a built up visual memory from studying real life.

>>4015526
>>4018124
>>4019178
>>4021462
Idk if this is any help but I saved it from the artist's twitter a while ago, filename is "473dLIogu2uGVj2L" saved on february 8, 2018 (most likely the day it was posted)
Is there a way to go far back on my twitter timeline without scrolling all the way? I might be able to find it.

>>4015385
>from life
Jap women don't have tits.

>>4015934

NOOOOOOO YOU RUINED THE BONER! MY DICK IS FADING!

>>4027055
i know how to shade a sphere alone I have no idea how to do it when the sphere is a boob on the body, with soft transitions on top, and abrupt at the bottom. I guess i need a mask for a boob layer to shade it

>>4027631
it is not same color. wtf

>>4015349
Shading is 90% shape, 10% value. That's how the japs do it.