/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

It's bad but that's not a polished turd.

>>4012142
You’re looking for something like this, right? Personally I think the general style is a bit overplayed

>>4012169
And there’s tones of Japanese artists that fall into this niche

>>4012177
Tons*

>>4012142
>Do you know why this aesthetic exists?

It’s fully a crutch, adding in extraneous shit like effects and overlays and stickers and shit makes it feel more quickly like a “finished” piece. I often see art like this and think about how much more interesting it would be if the artist hand-drew the effects— and it would probably push the artist a little more, too.

>>4012142
at least it's not another directionless unfinished anatomy study lol

>>4012192
You mean like this? >>4012177
Definitely a nip. He's not using any crutches, just raw drawing and it shows, it's miles ahead of what OP and you describe.
We should do it too.

>>4012446
I'm the OP and that what I was thinking of. We should imitate the styles of these artists because what they lack in fundies they make up in 'rule of cool'. Instead of crabbing over how so random teen or artist is more popular than us we should try to understand why they are. These kids have somehow distilled cool looking into an easily imitatable formula that has everything except fundies.

>>4012453
There's an artist from japanese comickers 3 who does pinups kind of how you're describing but entirely hand drawn and polished. I don't remember the artist name but it was good.

>>4012142
My understanding of these words is pretty different from yours.
A E S T H E T I C is fundamentally a style of art, or maybe just a way of thinking about art, it could be done well or done poorly or anywhere in between.
"Polished turd" on the other hand is more of just a straight description of quality, a description for a specific way that a work has gone wrong. It's by definition a bad thing. Basically it means a drawing with poor fundamentals that has been rendered a lot and had a lot of details added to it to try to make up for the weak structure.

>>4012488
It was japanese comickers 2. Jeong Juno. Some of their pinups are kind of like what OP was wondering about. pic related.

>>4012492
So instead of viewing the style as 'inherintly bad' one should view it as another style. I can see how my wording wasn't well phrased and I see your point of view as it is another way if approaching art. Insteading of focusing on details to the point it it loses all aesthetic pleasure they try to be lose with realism in favor of being pleasing to the eye.
Reminds me of the bad anime perspective thread /IC/ is having right now. On the grid side it's correct, but it lost all aesthetic plesure because it's warped. The other annon who said the style is better than grinding boxes was also getting at that.

>>4012436

Imagine actually doing studies

>>4012603
Unironically this. I think I've never done studies. Just do a piece, notice what's wrong (and ask), and consciously try to fix it or at least remember what you did wrong for the next one.
Some people get good grinding 200 hands or studying specific stuff in detail but I can't imagine living doing that for everything you tackle. Like, it's fine to study watching videos on youtube and reading tips for 2 hours if you notice your perspective or something is off, but actually "doing studies" like I see here sometimes... yikes

>>4012616

An anon after my own heart right there.

The polished turd will always win because it is just a confident turd.
I'm sure they are aware that they are using multiple crutches, but they must enjoy it.

Your mumbling is really hard to get through, I will need some filters in order to finish that paragraph.

>>4012169
>>4012177
>>4012179
holy fuc i love this

>>4012142
>Have you noticed any trends like this IC?
I see something similar on twitter sometimes. There are popular artists who struggle to draw shoulders or more than one facial expression but still get tons of traction because of their “anime girl with crude lineart and 100 pink overlays” aesthetic. I guess the filters and aesthetic add a cutesy/nostalgic vibe which appeals to a broader crowd in general so it’s more likely to get likes/rts.

>>4013817
ouran didn't deserve this shit

>>4012142
this “style” is common with DDLG / ABDL fat weeb girls
no surprise there

>>4012616
I don't like to put it that way but... post your work?
It would be interesting to see what someone can achieve with both methods : classic study vs bit by bit fixing.

>>4012169
this counts?

>>4012169
Sauce? I love this aesthetic.

>>4012169
i rove it but i neeed it more lofi

>>4012142
That's not a "polished turd".

A polished turd would be a drawing with tons of glaring issues but the artist tries to cover them up with rendering and lots of colors and shit and makes little to no adjustments.

>>4012142
>flower crows
?

im intrigued

>>4012616
Haha, I used to be like you.

>>4012142
dont know if thats what you mean, but i love artists who actually know what theyre doing “reclaiming” bad art stereotypes like shitty 3rd grader anime styles and making them their own. dont really have a great example but kind of like pic related

>>4016813
Oh, I really like this artist actually. It truly does look like 3rd grade weebshit, but is still pleasing in a way I can’t explain. Pinkie & Pepper is another example I can think of.

>>4016843
you can just see how they apply fundamental skills (proportions, movement, balance...) to this very simple and cartoony style and it just works perfectly imo. everything looks intentional as opposed to actual weeb kid art where you can tell their style is just a crutch. and i like pinkie and pepper too!