/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>3947052
She's a very beautiful woman, I wish I could impregnate her. I would plant my seed deep in her womb

>>3947052
that's a looott of period blood jesus christ.

>>3947052
Not sure if this is bait but if your art is personal, keep it to yourself. Things are not worth sharing if they are not universally true or true for more that one person.

The shit you linked is not art, it is a degenerate expression of a political opinion. There is nothing artistic about politics, politics are foolish and ultimately collapse as they are grounded in worldly goals and faulty presuppositions.

Learn Loomis instead of doing abortion performance art or whatever this trash was.

performance art is such a fucking meme

>>3947052
That's the bitch who got felt up and fingered in public for art. 10/10 wish I could master the fundies as well as her.

>>3947065
kim jung gi is a performance artist

>>3947068
But his performance art is him doing real art

>>3947052
>The Script System was Milo Moiré’s first artivist performance. The idea for the concept is based on the script theory of cognitive psychology. This states that, in everyday life, we repeatedly carry out stereotypical sequences of actions without being aware of it. We are all familiar with the restaurant script, for example: sit down, order, eat, pay and leave. We also function like human automatons in the streetcar, blindly obeying our inner film script and not even noticing the world around us. It is precisely here that Moiré sought to disrupt or break through people’s scripts. Like everyone else on their way to work, she used public transportation to travel through Düsseldorf as the sun went up. There was one difference: Instead of clothes, she had written the pieces of clothing on her naked body in the form of words.

>Always the same way to work, day after day…it is early in the morning…far too early for performance art! Always the same way to work, day after day…it is early in the morning…far too early for performance art! The semi-automatized operating according to an internalised script…enter, pass through, punch the ticket, sit down… Disturbed by a completely naked woman, right in the middle of it, dressed in words… What will happen? Astonishingly… not that much!

>The own radical nakedness turns in this process into a protective shield against the stereotype and paradoxically makes the artist invisible. If one allows stunning defencelessness, a protective, almost private space arises – even on the tram.

https://vimeo.com/64733355

>>3947082
>a woman is making other women uncomfortable in public
is this rape?

>>3947082
poor fucker behind her trying his hardest not to look.

>>3947052
I heard somewhere that back in the day art was both expressionism and talent but nowadays art is more expressionism with less talent

>>3947082
butterface

>>3947082
>she wore shoes instead of going barefoot and writing socks and shoes on her feet
Cowardly bitch too afraid of getting her feet dirty or uncomfortable to commit to her shitty performance.

>>3947087
Even the grannie is trying to hide her stiffy

>>3947052
>>3947082
Sasha Rose's performance art speaks to me more.

>>3947052
I remember my philosophy teacher saying that the reason modern art is so incomprehensible, is that it's being made in order to write papers as part of degree programs. The more abstract a thing is, the more you can write about it. Seems to make sense as you don't see this shit (both figuratively and literally) coming out of ateliers and more technical art schools.

>>3947068
>>3947067

(Purely) Conceptual art is a meme. Performance art can be good. (KJG is performance art, theatrical plays can be performance art, circus performers etc.)

>>3947052
it is absurd, but absurdity has always been a part of art
I personally think this is absolutely retarded but my point still stands

>>3947052
>I’m interested in pushing boundaries through art
Dadaism was a fucking century ago. We've pushed the boundaries to the absolute breaking point. Then they broke. Breaking every last social faux pas and calling it a performance isn't just old hat, it's fucking decrepit. Boring. Done. Go home.

Anyone here now is just here to goggle at the freak circus or wonder if he can fuck that chick, nobody is impressed or interested by this anymore.

>>3947052
Anything can be art
GOOD art, however, is a different story

>>3947052
It's art, according to the destructive mentality of post-modernism, but to me it's selfish narcissism and meaningless to anyone but the "artist". It's shallow, crude, and vain.

>If the art doesn't speak for itself and you have to justify it, I'm just not going to put much weight to it
>If you want to throw paint on a canvas and call it art well more power to you, not what I'm gonna be doing

>>3947522
Who?

>>3947533
It’s ya proverbial boy Jeffy

>>3947052
Nice way to avoid the part where you git gud.

>>3947082
>artivist

fuckin lmao tumblr has found a new calling

>>3947052
>"art"
>in germany

what else to expect than lower beg tier shit

>>3947082
Damn those nips small. Though i’d be pissed if I had my kids with me and she came on the bus like that

>>3948244
>Though i’d be pissed if I had my kids with me and she came on the bus like that
Why? It's no worse than your kids watching porn right under your nose.

>>3947052
why, why do most female artists, especially feminists obsess over their bodies? what's that fixation?

>>3947082
She just wants to be naked in public and is coming up for a reason for it afterwords. There are so many other ways to "disrupt daily programming" and she NEEDS to be naked? Yeah right.

>>3947082
hahahahah she forgot her socks
typical artist

>>3948504
You don't wear socks with platforms . . .

>>3947099
>Cowardly bitch too afraid of getting her feet dirty or uncomfortable to commit to her shitty performance.
Dude you're right. She should have "shoes" written on her feet, "lipstick" on her lips No purse. No glasses. No hair tie. Actually be naked. Instead she tries to be pretty.

>>3947052
No, it's not art.

>>3948335
Narcissism.

It's a form of mental illness.
Society is tolerating it and/or promoting it in her case because she is young and attractive. The same 'art concepts' wouldn't get publicity for a plain Jane. or an overweight middle aged frump. It's not art, it's the media getting free porn.
Same with that 'academic' in the UK that insists in taking her clothes off, it's just mental illness. No-one would accept a man walking around naked.

>>3948335
I think they're just biological determinists in denial. I suspect current wave feminists don't believe females can be as capable as males, that's why they always need a leg up and keep close to interest groups in order to obtain their gibs.

>>3947052
Everything made by humans to certain extent is art. Pretentious theater is also art. It only depends what you are willing to spend time experiencing. This dividing things to art/not-art is just politicking and enshrining of personal values. Stop redefining words to manipulate the world.

>>3947522
Well put, couldn't have worded it better. Thanks anon.
>>3950371
I'll put on the tinfoil hat and say that there's probably money laundering going on in there too.

these threads should be banned.

>>3948244
theres literally nothing wrong with naked people, I thought atleast people on here would get that since naked figure drawing is such a basic exercise

>>3951632
There is nothing wrong with swearing either, but if you can't understand that context is everything, then you can't be helped.
The poster suggested they wouldn't want to be faced with that when out with their young children, as an example. When my children were young, I ditched listening to music in the car that had audible swear words in. It's just avoiding dragging your children up to become scummy dregs with no manners.

>>3951920
yeah but still I dont like this thing a a whole, why does society say being naked is wrong, just because of the bible?
Why would it matter if children saw someone naked, they saw themselves and maybe their parents naked already

But I guess my whole point can be shot down when we take people into account that are so disgusting they dont even want to see themselves naked

It's futile to try to strictly define art. Don't bother.

>>3947062
It's not real. If you watch the video, you can see that it's from paint-filled eggs. Periods don't make nearly that much blood anyway. Maybe if she stood there for 48 hours.

>>3947155
This anon is correct.

>>3947052
>>3947082
This is art, but art of the lowest quality. Same thing with nsfw art = lowest quality.
It tries to be much more than what it actually is, while great art does the opposite! It's not just a sculpted rock, it's a David with amazing proportions that displays how great humans can sculpt! It's not just a painted roof, it's the Sixtine chapel that displays how much commitment you can pour into trying to represent divine stuff!
Meanwhile these are just vulgar, pretentious things that try to make more sense than just being provocative.

>>3951985
Because even if you're not-so strict when it comes to nudity and swearing, there will always at least some people who will think you're a degenerate for a variety of reasons. And you are correct on the part is to do with the persons aesthetic, beautiful and/or handsome people can get away with it while uglies are seen as degenerate regardless of their personality.

Like >>3951920 said context is everything to a certain degree. A majority of children are not LtCorbis smart and are stupid enough to abuse taboo words with no repurcussions and predators will exploit children's gullibility on nudity. Which is normally why parents would restrict nudity and swearing in front of children early on, then it depends on the parents if they want to tone down the Puritanism or not. Preteen-teens rebelling later on is the inevitable.

>inb4 some argument about aoc and children's mentality

>>3947064
this guy doesn't really understand what art is. Your politics have turned your mind into mush.

>>3948335
Who cares why? It's hot and I want more of these performances.

>>3948390
lol if she wasn't naked you wouldnt be triggered right now. Nobody would be talking about it.

>>3948335
all art and society obsesses about women's bodies. They are raised to be objectified. Why NOT focus on using their bodies in ways to subvert or draw attention to that?

>>3947052
No

>>3950371
>It's a form of mental illness.
most things are. Staring into a black mirror and getting your feelings from random strangers is also a "form of mental illness" and we do that shit all day.

>>3952342
Yep, but mental illness begins where an individual no longer functions in conjunction with it's society.
Even Ted Bundy knew he was meant to keep quiet about liking killing girls, fgs. Think of her level of self narcissism to parade herself about like this-before the 1960's she would've been treated for this, not indulged.
>>3952040
Quite. Now imagine a hairy backed 55 year old man plopping eggs from his butt in front of all and sundry.

>>3952987
>before the 1960's she would've been treated for this, not indulged.
Time is not an argument. The number of things all of us do here that would have gotten us tried, killed, tortured, or otherwise are innumerable.
I agree that it's not good art. It's narcissistic. It's self-indulgent. Sure. But it's not necessarily mental illness.
I don't think society promotes it either. If you ask your average person about contemporary art you'll get noting but criticism. People just aren't angry enough about it to go banning art schools though.

Not that poster btw

>>3952999
Nice digits.
IDK, I'm just fed up with hearing 'anything can be art'. Any of us striving to get better at drawing, etc, knows this is piffle. Music still has accepted classical music, with places to hear it, to train for it, etc. The public knows that a musician trained for the violin can demonstrate skill, ability, and then beyond that, something special that lifts them above their peers. Maybe that last part is harder for the untrained ear to recognise, but at least their is still respect for traditional music. Art has allowed itself to be trashed. Yes there is a small scale kick back, but how much damage is done, when 100 years of passing on training from human to human, has effectively gone?

......rant over. Taking pup for her vet jabs later, think I'm a bit stressed!

>>3952987
>Yep, but mental illness begins where an individual no longer functions in conjunction with it's society.
that's generally how it is defined for clinical diagnosis. And if you are diagnosably X disorder it generally is supposed to mean that it significantly impacts your ability to function, as in- your ability to work and make money. "conjuction with it's society" sounds like some kind of polcel nuspeak.
>Even Ted Bundy knew he was meant to keep quiet about liking killing girls, fgs.
Jesus christ, and you talk about other people having "mental illness." How old are you? Early 20s? You being treated yet?
>Think of her level of self narcissism
technically just "narcissism." The "self" goes without saying.
>to parade herself about like this
you like a radical muslim or something?
>before the 1960's she would've been treated for this, not indulged.
people with narcissistic personality disorders generally always thrive in most societies. The current US president meets the diagnostic criteria for Narcissistic, Histrionic, and Antisocial personality disorders and those were essentially his only selling point.

And you can't really be "treated" for a personality disorder either. There's no pill and not necessarily any real therapy for sociopaths, narcissists, histrionics, etc. Well behaved ones, like Bundy and Trump, can get away with quite a bit, while poorly behaved ones generally just end up in prison.

And what's wrong with trying to treat AND indulge people? Everyone is fucking "mentally ill" anyway, and they're generally the ones with all the best ideas. If it wasn't for the "mentally ill being indulged" we'd still be cavemen.

>>3952987
>Quite. Now imagine a hairy backed 55 year old man plopping eggs from his butt in front of all and sundry.
yeah it'd also be offensive and subversive. What does the age and appearance have to do with it? You make it too clear that you're a sex-obsessed virginal type with this kind of muh equivalence shit.

>Tfw your work will never be displayed at the museum but this was
https://youtu.be/p-TT7GoJ2iw
Honestly, talking to a simple normal artists is sometimes insufferable already imagine your conversation with people whose head is that deep up their ass, no self awareness, nothing, how can you be that deluded

>>3953244
I've got 4 kids and I'm married. Try again.

>>3953241
Everyone is fucking "mentally ill" anyway
Well, that's enough about you

>>3953441
Haha ebin comeback anon
You totally #rekt him

>>3953416