/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>3939712
ok

I want to be to be master cabinet

>not bookshelf master race
pleb

no

>>3939712
Good luck little Miku!

>>3939712
Im going to masturbate to miku right now!

>>3939747
Kill yourself

>>3939757
>>3939747
LOL

>>3939712
~700 hours of doodling without purpose over 2 years.
Need a bit more direction than that, lad. It's a start, though.

Consider this, faggot.

If you draw an hour a day for 2 years, you'll have 730 hours of experience.
If you draw 2 hours a day for 2 years, you'll have 1460 hours of experience. Literally DOUBLE the amount of time and it just goes up exponentially from there. Most people recommend drawing for 4-6 hours a day and all of your favorite artists draw about that much.

Make drawing a habit.

>>3939712
>1hr everyday
Post in this thread everyday

I’ll pmw if you make it to bump limit

My rule is to draw at least 15 minutes every day. I started doing a bit more, like 20-45 minutes. And eventually it became habit, so drawing more became much easier.

Nowadays I draw around an hour or two a day, but the days I'm having a lot fun, I draw up to 3+ hours. I recommend starting small, OP.

>>3939712
bet you you won't because you'll stay up all night one day so that you don't wake at 9am. Either that or you get distracted with something really fun. I also bet you've never went out of your way to do an hour of anything before. The ideal would be to draw first thing in the morning, not as a specific time because then it doesn't matter when you sleep or wake up.

Anyways; don't give yourself a such a massive burden or it will be too much. Heavy burdens are hard to sustain so you'll just end up giving up. Be lenient, as lenient as possible, small burdens you know you can handle and feel are easy. You can bump it up after a while, but give it time. GL

>>3939712
>another sadlawn thread
AAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHH HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>3939747
Oh my gawd are her legs broken? I'm/beg/ and can't tell if that's something the human body can do. I don't like her face, it's not sexy to me in this picture.

>He draws for only one hour
Faggot. I've been dedicating two hours to drawing for 2 years! From 4:00 to 6:00 p.m. Get on my level.

>>3940917
how's your progress been?

>>3940917
>he draws for only 2 hours a day
Bitch I draw 8 hours a day. Get on my level, bum!

>>3939712
Been considering doing the same desu.
Only problem is that i am a lazy piece of shit and i have never been able to stick to a schedule ever + my hands keep shaking like i'm going through alcohol withdrawal but i figure that it should work as long as i can manage to activate my autism and get in the zone.
I only work 6 hours a week so i should have time for it at least.

>>3939712
join DAD

>>3939712
Very nice thread,fren. Thanks for posting

>I wake up at 6:00 I finish the day at 20:00, not including dinner.
How am I supposed to draw!?

>>3940944
>he only draws for 8 hours
unless you count in 25 per day for 1 year you are ngmi

>>3941022
draw while you eat

>>3941022
So you have 10 hours to dine, draw and sleep?
Sleep 8 hours, dine in 30 mins, draw for 60 to 90 minutes. Still able to do more than OP!
(Preferably do it before starting your day instead of doing it at the end, though.
Problem is, ideally, you shouldn't just have dinner and go to bed, so figure that out too. Maybe eat more during the day.

>>3940998
Very nice fox, fren. Thanks for posting

3 hours a day for 10 years and you'll be a master

>>3939712
create blog and post results every day

>>3941064
Not OP but that might be a good idea for how to stay motivated, kind of attentionwhoring but for a good cause.
Twitter would work as well.

That's 24 hours of milage.
A person who draws for 5 hours a day, will achieve that amount of milage in 5 days.

>>3941097
This. I remember I started with an hour a day, but think about how easily you could double that to two hours. You'll be at four years worth of mileage after those two years, and it's barely more work per day.

>>3941122
If your goal is to be a professional artist, you need to build up the time and hours you're able to work without distraction or getting tired. First this will help you learn exponentially faster because you're putting in so much work, but also you build that speed and stamina you need to make art in a realistic amount of time in order to make money off of it.

If you're trying to make a living off your art, you can't take 2 weeks to finish an artwork that should have took 3 days just because you get tired of working on your art after 3 hours.

>>3939747
This is vile.

>>3941127
Some fur artists have a backlog of 200 commissions that they have gotten paid for already and yet they keep getting people who are willing to pay for maybe getting some art in a year or three.

>>3939747
Is this slugbox?

>>3939712
If you start with your fundies yes
if you'll fuck around, no
It's not about the time spent, it's what you did in that time.

Mileage means nothing unless you constantly work to improve.

>>3941197
I did the first lesson of drawabox (2 pages of superimposed lines, 1 of ghosted lines 1 of ghosted plains)

>>3941168
That says more about how obsessive furries are I think. But also that means they're already popular. You don't get popular by producing artwork at a glacial pace unless every piece is a monumental fine art masterpiece and has to take months to complete. Look at KJG, Alex Ross, or even dare I say Sakimichan. Prolific artists are often the most successful.


If you had that many commissions already paid for, ideally you would want to to try to finish each one as fast as possible without sacrificing the quality paid for in order to get the most $$$ out of your time, don't you think? Just because you are paid in advance doesn't mean you get to slack off - you definitely don't want to waste more time than you need or else you're bleeding money.

>>3941239
I never did that in specific so I can't tell you for that program, but it seems to drive the points across so good, keep it up.
Also remember to constantly critique your own work and try to improve on your downfalls.

>>3939712
With that kind of commitment more like 10-15 years.

>>3940822
>>3939712
>>3940917
>>3940944

The "draw for x amount of time" everyday approach is such a fucking meme. You don't get better at drawing by just doing the same thing everyday. You get better by spending more time observing things, by taking the time to sit down and look at your old drawings and figure out where they went wrong.

Instead of aspiring to draw for x hours a week, aspire to find one thing to improve on in every drawing you make.

I haven't been painting for that long but I make leaps and bounds with every new set of paintings because I'm constantly focused on trying to expand/improve/refine my practice.

>>3941243
Only mentioned it cause what you wrote reminded me of it. I'd never do stuff like that. Pretty sure i'd never even accept more than one commission at a time so that i don't stress too much and mess it up.
Though i'm many years from being good enough for a commission of any kind.

>>3941393
Ofc that stuff would be applied at the same time or there would be no point to it.

>>3941349
They say you need 10k hours to master something, if that is true we're talking 3 hours a day for the next 10 years.
I'm going to start working myself up to 1 hour a day but i'm aiming at 3, if i get that far into it i could probably easily add another 3 hours to it. I don't really have hobbies or work to spend it on anyways.
I'm guessing it will take a year or two to get up to those numbers tho(1-3)

>>3941414
>They say you need 10k hours to master something,
That is just a stupid meme and an urban myth to sell you a guy's book, You can look this up.

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>>3941424
>>3941426
nice read

>>3941393
>scheduled practice doesnt work
Come on son youre not that retarded.

>you dont get better by doing the same thing every day
????
Thats literally how you get better at anything. If you drew hands everyday for a week, trying to get better each time you will get better

>>3941438
read Peak: Secrets from the New Science of Expertise

>>3941438
Tell that to this dude
https://www.artstation.com/santalahti

>>3941676
I think this is more of a severe autism chris chan situation though. Most people are going to improve if they try over and over to draw what they want to

>>3941423
>>3941424
>>3941426
Hmm, well it's a nice round number to strive for if nothing else. Doesn't really change my plans tho

>>3941707
>>3941438
You need practice no doubt, but repetition without a mindfullness about what you're doing and how you're orientating to improve is going to actually be harmful. Think about it this way, you practice repetition to ingrain things you're trying to learn. But you can learn bad habits just as easily as good ones, so you gotta be extra aware. Many people on hear aren't trying to ingrain anything in particular through repetition, because they hate things like books or video lessons, but without that stuff you dont know how to orientate your practice. Most dudes on here are just mindlessly cranking out the same anime girl for years, no amount of repeating the same bad anime drawing is going to make them somehow good. No doubt you can work stuff out through practice but many people aren't at a point where they can realistically do that.

>>3939712
Did OP deliver? Where are the drawings from the past 2 days?

>>3939712
you guys are so fucking lazy. ngmi.
challenge yourself or your not gonna get any results.

>>3942719
Not that dude but the way i'ma do it is by posting it online and asking people to point out misstakes/tips etc. Will probably get a lot of "you're shit git gud" but there is bound to be some useful comments.
I also have a bunch of how to draw pdf files that i'ma check out one of these days

>>3939712
Try 9AM to 10PM.

Soon as i get my new table i'll try to do the same

>>3942719
My dude you are stating the obvious. I guess most people here are probably retarded enough that they hear "just draw every day" and assume they can legit put down the same lines but generally the advice just draw includes an effort to improve with each one rather than just repeating the same lines.

maybe if you draw for 4 hours a day for 2 years then you MIGHT be a pretty good drawer

If you do it every day you'll be better than 63% of /ic/.

>>3940822
>Literally DOUBLE the amount of time and it just goes up exponentially from there.

It's not like compound interest, you're literally just straight up doubling your time investment. No shit if you spend twice as long a day you'll have practiced twice as much at the end of the year.

>>3940882
Seems he deleted in shame, do you think he's fully given up on his dream though? I'm convinced he could still do it, but I imagine it'd be hard to move past a public display like that. Here's hoping he does, and finds the grit to do what he really wants.

>>3944910
not as obvious as you think. Some people who start drawing at a young age, they aren't too savvy.

>>3940831

This

Dont put too much pressure on yourself, you'll never find the motivation and energy to keep going.

Start small and build up your "stamina". You'll start enjoying what you do and you'll keep going just for the sake of it.

>>3939712
>I'm gonna draw 1 hour from 9am to 10 am every day
>In 2 years I shall be a master drawer
Nah.

>>3946238
Genuinely feel bad for whoever this is, at least their still life studies are not too bad but they're just that - studies.
>>3939712
This is a journey you take on your own, if you're partaking in drawing for the sake of showing others you've done this for an x amount of time a day for attention you're in the wrong field. Talent is a genuinely pursued interest, not a showboat for 15 minutes of fame on your Instathot. With that being said nobody cares what you do, you're not a special snowflake to be telling us what you're going to be doing.

>>3946238
Should have just went to one of the academies in Russia

>>3946238
holy fuck talent is real just fuck my shit up

>>3946260
Bingo.

>>3946238

>>3946238
oof, my beilef system

>>3946238
this person is obv an idiot

>>3946238
>life
decent gains
>photo
already had a decent start, decent gains
>imagination
garbage start, now in color
All the still lives and photo studies in the world didn't help their imagination ability.

>>3946260
nah

>>3946432
He obviously needs to drop LSD to improve his imagination.

>5 years ago
>"I'm going to learn to draw"
>Barely draw at all in that time
>If I'd kept up even an hour a day I could probably turn out something decent right now
:(

>>3946491
The next 5 years ago starts now, git gud

>>3946491
I've been drawing since before I could talk. Only now am I training at 100% for it. The best time to start getting serious is now.

>>3946491
Go for it now

>>3946238
And people on this board say anime is easy... lmfao. Doing still life studies doesn't help you draw from imagination it seems.