/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

You can pinpoint the exact moment when he discovered loomis

>>3939390
im glad he's finally made it

left = soul
right = soulless

>>3939390
I was planning on making one of these threads. I saw ModeSeven archiving his art and decided to do it myself so I have something to look back on. Trying to organize by date rather then just throw shit in a folder and try to remember when it was made. That way I can see the progression...I need to draw more holy fuck.

>>3939390
>yfw you start opening your old files from five years ago

>>3939436
>wondering where the fun and pure joy went over the years

>>3939439
I know that feel bro.

>>3939436
>>3939439
Fuck.
Why did my happiness and innocence have to die?

https://www.artstation.com/artwork/A9vevX

looking back at my old work, i can really see improvement.

>>3939439
i'm happier than ever

>>3939456
Jesus fucking christ

>>3939456
I can't

Older comparison but all I had right now. I inked over the old drawing.

>>3939518
>comparing apples with bananas

>>3939531
>Food analogy

>>3939525
theyre just... cubes...

>>3939525
>your brain on drawabox

>>3939436
...
meh.

>>3939456
>we teached him (not) as a joke

>>3939390
Almost back to 2015 levels - it’s study time

>>3939598
I'm regressing, making me the victor.

>>3939621
Don’t think you’ve regressed, seems linear progress

>>3939624
kek

>>3939621
Great work anon

>>3939594
Is draw a box really just a meme? I heard it was supposed to be a useful tool, but now I'm not so sure.

>>3939653
Its useful if you're a beginner to get out of the habit of drawing things completely flat. Teaches you how to draw to think of space and volume and perspective.

>>3939621
I'll save this for inspiration

>>3939518
I prefer the old portrait. It has a more natural nose and lip shape, nose bridge indication and a pleasing patch of shade under the lower lip. The features are also better angled and positioned. Looks like old manga, pic related. The right seems like an elongated shoujo manga face by comparison, the small indentations at the mouth edges are gone and it's widened.

>>3939621
I remember your Sonichu drawing, surprised you're still on here.

>>3939390
I think I regressed.
Granted, I loved drawing the first one and hated drawing the second. I did not design the costumes and was really constrained with the alien design (had to have three legs, be very large, carry them, webbed hands I think too)

Still....its really hard to find anything I like that I've made lately. My favorites are from way in the past.

>>3939525
>evolved from being ball boy to serving the great cube overlords

>>3939621
what the difference between copies and reference

>>3939621
This is enraging for me as someone who just started. I cant believe how fast you improved between 2k13-15. I grew up being told I was unable to learn a lot of things so I can't relate.

pic related. Made this in Krita the day I got my cheap Wacom.
It's supposed to be my dead cat.

>>3939626
2015 was my peak - been working towards getting back to my prime

>>3939651
>>3939826
>>3939973
thanks - I can't believe its been 6yrs...

>>3940384
copies are like studies. References are from a cool pose or a character

>>3940422
everyone has big gains at the beginning. Enjoy them and punch in that mileage

>>3940451
>2015 was my peak
Is that something you've always held or is it based on how people have responded to you work? I see your progress pic posted around on other boards sometimes and typically see people say the same.

Personally I think it's all great, not that you regressed just that you got to a really good cruising altitude.

>>3939456
What the fuck

>>3940451
>everyone has big gains at the beginning. Enjoy them and punch in that mileage
Sounds like my experience with fighting games.

I have set a low bar for myself. If I can get as good as Zun (pic related) or Kruggsmash (Dwarf Fortress let's player) it will be "good enough" that I will do it with some regularity.

btw some advice I found recently for fighting games is if you feel you have stagnated as a player, you should learn a new character.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5zB5XlTIf8
It's about videa but it changed my perspective on life.

I didnt draw a lot in between these two actually. Somehow my progress is a steady rate no matter how much I practice

>>3939621
oh shit senpai i remember that drawing from 2016. I don't think i ever got your blog though/.

>>3940532
The composition on 2019 makes me think that after 2018, you began to understand the basic shapes and overall form of the human face. I can tell it was a quicker draw, which is- in it's own right- an improvement, and I'd like to see a current drawing with more detail and shading added. The most obvious jump in quality is the nose, Monika looks like a fukken toucan on the left.

>>3940532
Left one had really pretty eyes and hair since you were probably copying a picture but I decided to do something for her since I liked that.
As for your progress, it seems you finally understand that human heads aren't just eyes nose and a mouth randomly pasted into a head so kudos on that

>>3939456
Looking through that profile is terrifying.

>>3941134
holy shit thats inspiring.

I'm stagnating....

>>3939456
I think i've seen hell now

>>3941182
You are. But it's up to you to change that. Practice actively and study from other artists.

>>3941134
Do you publish/post these somewhere?

>>3939621
Blog/twitter/newgrounds/... ?

>>3941182
where can i read your comic?

>>3941252
meant to this one >>3941134

I platoed, regressed and don't know what i need to improve anymore.

I think I read all of the books and i just don't know what is it that I lack. Maybe i need to just draw more.

>>3941266
Are you spending more time on one figure instead of performing several quick sketches? It seems that you invest more time and effort on one piece, you're at the point where you should be drawing multiple figures focusing on executing a concept, and gesture. The more quick sketches and gesture drawings you do the more in tune you would be in proportion, anatomy, and most importantly the fluidity and grace of a figure.

Also perform some master studies from an artist who is competent in painting, not going to tell you from who since there's too many snowflakes in this board.

I a lot of my recent stuff is wips that I'm still working on. I'll wait a little longer before I go making progress charts
https://eigibeast.newgrounds.com/art/
Feel free to get scroll through and get a kick out of it.

Just 2 things that you may make looking at this progress more interesting
1) I only got serious with art, sat and studied fundies and fully let em click november 2016.
2) I started working with anime around mid 2018

(me)>>3941287
The pic is something I'm working on right now.

>>3941134
>2002
I have 17 years to get to your level.

>>3941290
Nah
They peaked in 05 and 09
You just need to not stagnate and keep pushing.

>>3941317
Maybe in technical proficiency, but I like where his stylization kept going.

>>3941134
>Soul

>>3941318
stylization doesn't take much to change. That's how you can have different artists working on the same project. You could pretty much pass this if you worked hard for 2 years

>>3940451
>everyone has big gains at the beginning.
sounds like im NGMI then

>>3939456
thanks for the laugh mate fucking hell that's manic

>>3941134
Blog?

>>3939456
Part of me wonders if his is just someone else claiming credit for this retard's autistic artstation because it's such a fucking meme

>>3939456
Genuinely gave me a good laugh

>>3939456 #
I noticed as time went on, your artwork became less diverse. Doing something other than drawing the same thing over and over is a good way to improve.

>>3939436
>"Old" files aren't even a year old

2011ish / 2019

>>3939393
2010

>>3939456
I suppose you don't care if I ever sleep again.

>>3939439

So it's a long time between but I wasn't really drawing more than once a month at best. This last 3 months I have improved a lot more than before.

Doing a lot of trad stuffs. Still depressing seeing the two side by side.

>>3939456
WTF my man?

>>3939390

>>3939390
daily reminder most people just draw as a hobby for fun hence their "progression" over the years is not a fair representation or comparison to those who are more serious and want to do this profesionally

>>3942245
it's weird how you can tell the sexual orientation of an artist by their work

>>3942267
this is the kindest way of calling someone a raging faggot

>>3942281
this

>>3942267
>>3942281
It might be a female artist, but who knows.

2017/2018

>>3941266
it looks like you were relying on high detail backgrounds to carry your art. but your character didnt improve. focus on the anatomy and the way you render people. level that up, then bring back the intricate backgrounds. the foor on the 2018 one is terrible. you can do better. the hair isnt shiny. i think you can do better

https://scontent-amt2-1.cdninstagram.com/vp/0c975797e0677ff583b6362a61b8cc98/5D4FC132/t51.2885-15/e35/23416697_1155052567972572_3936246125584973824_n.jpg?_nc_ht=scontent-amt2-1.cdninstagram.com&se=8&ig_cache_key=MTQwOTc0MjMxMDUzMTE3OTQ4MQ%3D%3D.2

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C12ZNJOWQAA_Sts.jpg

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/cc/7d/82/cc7d8224694ad43ef8411169cb7d67e9.jpg

https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/f/08069cc4-6595-4406-b587-20f2e2027964/d9anef8-f5d22348-d1cf-4754-b2b2-6de6a7d2f71d.png?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWIiOiJ1cm46YXBwOjdlMGQxODg5ODIyNjQzNzNhNWYwZDQxNWVhMGQyNmUwIiwiaXNzIjoidXJuOmFwcDo3ZTBkMTg4OTgyMjY0MzczYTVmMGQ0MTVlYTBkMjZlMCIsIm9iaiI6W1t7InBhdGgiOiJcL2ZcLzA4MDY5Y2M0LTY1OTUtNDQwNi1iNTg3LTIwZjJlMjAyNzk2NFwvZDlhbmVmOC1mNWQyMjM0OC1kMWNmLTQ3NTQtYjJiMi02ZGU2YTdkMmY3MWQucG5nIn1dXSwiYXVkIjpbInVybjpzZXJ2aWNlOmZpbGUuZG93bmxvYWQiXX0.wce8z6U2-OI3ksPyVBHVz7Nd5KGeS866VpytnsK0Lsk

>>3942188
Actual improvement. Very nice

>>3941220
you know what the real screamer is? I just graduated from an art program.

>>3942325
old one had way more soul, thick line art is a beginner's trap

>>3942245
>>3942267
I mean the filename even says SEXUALE

>>3942325
>soul vs soulless
Btw i can't tell when one is before and after...
anyways, you basically took what expression/personality that one dude had and just wiped it away.Again, i have no idea which one is 2017 or 2018.I guess its the one on the right is 2018 cause it looks more structure and some of the anatomy has more details. Work on your line quality remember outlines inside are thinner than outside.

Nowhere near where I wanna be but at least I don't wanna kill myself anymore.

>>3939661
>>3939653
It should be a warmup not what you do 12 hours a day... studies only help so much you draw too much from real life you will loose your imagination

Big oof.

>>3942800
what's the date difference?

>>3942812
2011 vs. 2019.

>>3942818
Oof

>>3939436
>...and realize you barely fucking improved

>>3942820
To be a little fair to me I stopped drawing for 8 years and only made the switch from traditional to digital last year. Picture related is the first thing I drew when I got my tablet, so maybe that's a more fair comparison.

>>3940538
>>3941226
blogu here >>3936734

>>3940458
>>2015 peak
>something you've always held
yea, my favorite drawing is still pic related. Work got distracting after the end of 2015 so its been hard to just maintain fitness, and digital sucked the soul out of my drawings. I think 2019 is going to be my year...

> around on other boards
I only visit /ic/ - its strange to think that my drawings exist outside of this shit hole

>>3940528
>if you feel you have stagnated as a player, you should learn a new character
trying new pens, brushes, or different mediums will definitely give you a swift kick in the nuts if you are flatlining

a whole shit ton happened in between these, not an accurate analysis of my progress at all
but I'll post it anyways

>>3943506
cool, nice, thanks sai

>>3942825
A gain is a gain.

>>3939390
I can't tell if people are meming or if he actually drew that.

>>3939525
Only 1000 more years of primitive volumes then you can finally draw that anime girl

>>3943511
>>3943506
From anime to western, huh
>>3943519
He drew it, look for the Chris Chan wiki it has the latest updates on his life

>>3939439
I was smart and deleted them as I went. No evidence of the awful shit I was doing. I stopped making bad smut and I'm not going back.

>>3943711
No way that's Chris chan dude. He's too autistic to do anything but sanic

>>3939518
Wow! You improved that much in one year, that's amazing! Keep the good work

>>3939842
Imagine being this retarded

A good chunk of my tiny amount of practice at this.

>>3943739
looks good.

looks like you regressed in jan from november but it looks great after

>>3943762

I kinda slacked for a few periods (including currently). I should be more diligent desu.

>>3939456
I see you've taken inspiration from the hallway scene in Inland Empire.

https://youtu.be/Y0XVyQFkm2k?t=130

>>3939390
I don't know quite how to classify my progression. I know I picked up a few new techniques here and there, but I wouldn't really say my art got "better" per-se

>>3939456

You could probably put these on a shirt and sell them on Etsy or some shit, hell I'd probably buy one for shits n' giggles

>>3943954
work on edges and composition. I feel like 2017 would actually be better if you cleaned them up.

>>3943972
Edge control being a problem for me is something that I've been aware of for quite some time; the problem is that I don't even know how to train on getting better in that regard.

>>3943919
So much anger. You need to learn to draw cute waifus.

>>3943711
on pure curiosity I looked up said wiki, no mention at all of this. Das sum gud trollon der, anon.

>>3943919
Your forms look a bit more 3d scarier if the shading but they're still grotesquely ugly as all fuck because you're proportions and anatomy are awful.

>>3944102
Fuck auto correct. I meant "because," not "scarier. "

>>3944102
>>3944103
Ahh, fair enough. Guess I gotta study my fundies harder, thank you. I guess that's why my monster drawings get more attention, monsters don't need accurate proportions. I know I have trouble with faces, is it the faces, or are the bodies' proportions also really bad?

>>3944027
I'm not really good at the anime/manga artstyle, and I've always more preferred a comic-book aesthetic for my drawings. Do the monster pieces make me seem angry? I just really like horror and grotesque monsters, macabre genres of media always appealed to me for some reason.

High ramble aside, thanks Anon, I'll keep your advice in mind.

>>3944157
Why is are all your work so dark and have to be ugly though? Is this the only thing you can draw? I used to draw a lot of similar stuff when I was younger but I realized sure I could draw dark shit all day, but you also have to balance it out with the beautiful and hopefull. Life and reality itself is a mix of the horrific and utterly beautiful. Characters themselves have to also be a mix and feel different emotions and moods not just one. It's hard as fuck to change your style or what you feel like you want to draw because we like to think our art is a just a mirror of ourselves, but sometimes our art can also teach us how to grow or what we should aspire to.

If I were you and if you are serious about growing as an artist, care less about your line work and try challenging yourself to draw new themes you haven't done before. That's the real test of growth and improvement. It might just change you to see new things you haven't considered before.

I make 80k+ a year as a professional concept designer for the last 15 years.

>>3944161
Listen to new music and try to draw what you see. It's alien at first of course, but after awhile you come to like the feeling of surprising yourself with the unexpected outcomes.

>>3944180
>I make bank doing concept art for years.

Post work/progress

>>3944161
Speaking as a professional, the 2018 peice is the best work out of the ones you showed. Cocnept wise it is more advanced and tells more of a story. My advice to improve on that picture is try to use more colour tones and a wider pallet. Nothing wrong with subdued gray colours, but judging from your other works that's all you can currently do. That makes the mood very monotone. Try to mix it up a bit and dare to use colours you never tried before. Pick some colours at random and see if you can pull it off.

You got soul I can feel and potential, but you have to learn to open your mind and heart to really push the boundaries of what you think you can do. I have seen quite a few guys who couldn't draw for shit, but they had the ability to make art and be pro because they could draw multiple characters from any perspective and mood because they are able to simply imagine it. Then I have also seen some guys who were master drawers, but they were one trick ponys. They don't last long unless it's EXACTLY what people(studio, market, investors,fans,target audience, etc) are looking for. Who would hire a musician who could only play one song? Better be a damn good song that's for sure.

You want to know the secret of great character design? It's being able to imagine and draw how other people feel even though it's not what you always feel or want to. By imagining that other view, you also make it become a part of your world. Learn to grow your world, not shrink it or have a narrow view of it. It will make you much more dynamic. That just more information then just face proportions.

>>3944161
Speaking as a professional, the 2018 peice is the best work out of the ones you showed. Concept wise it is the most advanced and tells more of a story. My advice to improve on that picture is try to use more colour tones and a wider pallet. Nothing wrong with subdued gray colours, but judging from your other works that's all you can currently do. That makes the mood very monotone. Try to mix it up a bit and dare to use colours you never tried before. Pick some colours at random and see if you can pull it off.

You got soul I can feel and potential, but you have to learn to open your mind and heart to really push the boundaries of what you think you can do. I have seen quite a few guys who couldn't draw for shit, but they had the ability to make art and be pro because they could draw multiple characters from any perspective and mood because they are able to simply imagine it. Then I have also seen some guys who were master drawers, but they were one trick ponys. They don't last long unless it's EXACTLY what people(studio, market, investors,fans,target audience, etc) are looking for. Who would hire a musician who could only play one song? Better be a damn good song that's for sure.

You want to know the secret of great character design? It's being able to imagine and draw how other people feel even though it's not what you always feel or want to. By imagining that other view or story you also make it become a part of your own story. Learn to grow your story, not shrink it or have a narrow view of it. It will make you and your work much more dynamic. That is more important than just good face proportions.

>>3944203
I can't. It's a liability.

>>3943739
I hope to follow your path.
What did you do exactly to improve?

>>3939456
And there people called me autistic in other thread.

I realized I don't make art very often at all. Might do some today.

>>3939456
i'm saving this link for when someone says "just draw bro lmao"

>>3944306
Make more art.

>>3944306
Nice man. 2017 is your best year for character designs, but I like the new stuff you're trying out in 2018. I hope you get more art gains.

>>3939621
Damn, I was here for your 2017 stuff. Amazing work. Although subject matter leaves me a bit wanting. It would be nice to see more variety in your work than just girls in cool poses.

>>3944335
It trickles onto paper every now and again, but I'm certainly not gonna stop!

>>3944344
Thanks a bunch! Here's some progress from 2019. I don't "finish" like anything at all. Trying to nail down perspective and general surface depth.

>>3939456

>>3939842
literally the only good thing about the old one is the way he did the hair, but that's just because I enjoy that style. Stop being such a fag the new one is clearly better.

>>3939436
The further back you go the cringyer it gets.

>>3944267

Wish I could summarize neatly, I don't have a method and I'm largely just self teaching. The tl;dr is I drew a bunch of anime girls and successively tried to do better in manageable ways. Sometimes I'd check the foreshortening with a cg model, sometimes I'd use about 20 references. I had no idea how to draw muscle at all so I opened and anatomy chart and drew out all the muscles over a figure. Stuff like that. I guess it's just largely challenge oriented, since I was trying to learn painting, figures, anatomy, perspective and all that largely holistically. Seems like if you improve at some of this stuff with figures or characters your background skills improve too, it's just building a mental library of whatever you wanna be able to do. I wouldn't recommend trying to imitate whatever I'm doing because to be frank, I have no idea what I'm doing.

>>3944056
>>3943726
>he didn't know about dimensions merge Chris Chan

>>3939390
Well... I mean... I'm slow like a turtle but... yeah.... ...

2006 - 2019 can be found here: https://imgur.com/a/BH6XQCJ (also the resolution is better and you can ppbly see something...)

>>3944593
>nu starwars
I'm sorry to inform you anon... but you've been diagnosed with shit taste.

>>3944600
Thats fine :D haha

>>3939456
>Oingo Boingo self-inserters

>>3939439
Oh it can still be fun even after so many years :).

Don't get stuck on a single image, try new things, try to find friends with the same hobby to meet up with and draw together.

Do sport and eat healthy <3.

Take care of your general mental health.

>>3944593
Your old shit had more variety in color.

>>3939621
yo do you do commisions?

>>3944180
>>3944191
>>3944241
Thank you all for your thoughts. I think all my work has the same dark tone because I tend to listen to darksynth when I draw, because I like the energy of it. I guess I should vary the music I listen to, and try to work on my proportions more. Maybe actually having more backgrounds would help too.

I'm going to keep this in mind as I draw, see if I can get any different or better results. If this thread is still up by the time I've made any more satisfactory work, I'll post it here to see if you think I got any better.

>>3939456
i'm actually crying bro. this reminds me of my style when i was like 7. i used to figure out a cool way of drawing eyes or whatever and then i'd do 20 or so variations, and my mum would put them all up in the kitchen with blu tac. but I'm assuming you are an adult. fascinating.

>>3943954
finish something

i dont really feel like updating it with this years art. honestly im fucking terrified that im stagnating, that i've been drawing the same things, that i still don't have simple shit like anatomy down, that my stuff will never be as good as what my favorite artists were making at my age, or that when its all said and done ive just been working myself into a local maxima when i shouldve started over from the beginning again. I dont feel like i like drawing enough to ever get what i want out of it, if i really wanted to be great i wouldnt be on here complaining, id be drawing and enjoying it

it's a long road bois

>>3939842
>people are actually disagreeing with this
the absolute state of /ic/

>>3945063
Hey you're that femboy dude
I can tell you that one way or another you're probably my favourite artist on /ic/, there's a few pieces I see there where I didn't even realize it's your stuff but still loved them.
Take it from me, you've gotten A LOT better. Just comparing '18 and '17, you're colour choices and costumes have gotten pretty top notch.

>my stuff will never be as good as my favorite artists...
I don't know what your end goal is but I can tell you, it's probably not your technical skill holding you back. I think at some point you said you liked JJurion, so I suppose you're comparing yourself to him (and others).
Thing is, those guys are pros who've been drawing for decades now, or even at what was possibly your age.

Like I said, I don't know what your end-goal is (commissions, comics, concept art, etc..) but I can guess that you're more than good enough for a running start.
Get a blog, interact with the community, build a following, STOP NUKING IT, and then do whatever you want with it.
I really like you, anon. You're real good. Just stop doubting yourself and jump into the flames

I only found ic and actively started trying to improve about a month ago. my progress from 2013 - 2018 is pretty minimal i think...

>>3945063
I have similar thoughts but they're a distraction, looking too much at other artists will disconnect you from the essence of your creativity. So far you've made a nice amount of progress overall, you're on a good way and your age won't matter when you make it. Also I think your mechanical designs are good, good luck

>>3945093
What's your current process for drawing environments?

>>3939456

Wtf I'm scared

>>3945170

Your cars are very good

>>3945227
not sure what u mean with that, can u specify

>>3945281
like do you start with photos, 3d blocking, or just perspective drawing? What's your complete workflow for a picture?

>>3945170
It's never too late. I really like your vehicles stuff.

>>3945093
Damn, good fucking job. That's a huge leap from 2016 to 2018.

>>3942239
That's a shame mate, I mean the one from 10 years ago is really a lot better

>>3945287
it's different every time, i just try to be aware of what people in the industry do and then i just start the image how i feel like at that time. the last two castles were started from a simple 3D base i created in Modo earlier.
But sometimes i do underdrawing or for commissions concepts or when there's deadline i even start with photos. I dont really have set way that i go about with things.
>>3945292
thanks a lot man

>>3945271
>>3945290
thank you kindly

>>3942239
>>3945298
yeah no, the new one is better for sure, the improvement is visible

>>3945343
any good tutorials on this stuff you can recommend?

>>3945370
intro to environment painting by Maciej Kuciara, it's on cgpeers

>>3945409
Thanks, anon

>>3945093
Whoa. I remember that 2016 one and how you said you got the perspective wrong, so proportions was messed up. You’ve gone a far ways since then.

>>3942625
drawabox doesent have to be box only, draw things that fall under being a perspective/form excercise and you can have fun while improving. i think i did draw boxes only for a couple of months and it did help a ton, but it only really started going better when i understood why its important to think about boxes

i first read the sticky in 2014 and i still have my upside down picasso and shitty blooks
its been so slow

>>3945577
Paint less, draw more. Fundies all day every day.

>>3945577
your end result for your painting looks odd.
i'm not that great at painting but idk if its the way you shade the edges or the way your put the colors but it feels either too soft or too sharp. Idk if anyone else gets a vibe that theres something off about the paintings.Maybe its the lack of texture in the face or clothing. Idk , i wish i could pin point it.
Whats your end goal? Like any artist you're heavily inspired by that influences your colors/shading?

>>3945702

>>3945703
2019

>>3945705

>>3945703
2019

>>3945708

>>3945709

>>3945702
If you haven't studied Aaron Blaise yet, you should.

>>3945702
>>3945703
i'm not trying to be rude but what happened in 2016-2019 where your progress and finishing pieces went down?

>>3945577
I think you really need to push your pieces more and work on value contrast. The 2019 piece has a lot of potential, but it feels unfinished. Same with the first 2016 piece. If you just sat down and finished rendering, and sharpened up some of those edges you could really elevate these pieces.

>>3945740
my house burned down in 2016 and i was homeless and then i got an apartment in 2017 and was not homeless but then my apartment got struck by lightning and burned down in 2018 and yeah.

>>3945737
i found him very recently and have had multiple people suggest him to me recently also

>>3945586
ok
>>3945690
I don't have any one artist that heavily influences me which is probably why my work looks all over the place. My end goal is to just be good enough to paint and draw in whatever style I want.
>>3945744
Contrast is something I generally mess up with, Ill turn the 2019 one B/W and focus on edges and value contrast and come back to colour later, thanks.

Right one isn't finished but I'm working on it, dore-style crusade art.

I was pretty happy with my gains from 2015-2016 (though I mostly just got adequate at photostudies).

From 2016 to now it's been pretty slow going. 2019 has felt like a backslide, all I really do is short doodles lately.

>>3945758
a-are you cursed?

what about mine anons?

>>3946875
it seems like it.

>>3945170
You better stop drawing any dragon ball related stuff altogether if you really want to improve.

>>3946876
its literally the same thing but a style change...

>>3946896
yes, style changed indeed.

fucking hell, this is the year i either break out of my comfort zone and improve tremendously or quit art forever

So I found some gems the other day that I thought were lost forever. This is my improvement. It's not so great but considering that I never did studies or classes it's interesting how I improved just by living life, observing, and doodling.

>>3939456
Market your art as some kind of edgy/satire indie punk band sort of thing and I gaurantee you'll make money

I need to force myself to do more interesting pieces. I think I've been too lazy and unambitious with my illustrations lately

>>3946903
good job anon.

>>3939456
This is what you see before you die.
This is the face of God.

>>3947000
Why did lay out your progress like a complete retard? You seem to be into comics too.

>>3947059
Because I had a nicer laid out version a while ago but the file size was getting fucky so I had to move stuff around to make it fit, and I haven't brought myself to make something better. I do make comics, I spend most of my time on art working on these. They're all nothing-special artistically though because of the time crunch, so I don't include most of them on these things.

>>3941262
>>3941222

rococo.smackjeeves.com
Although I haven't been updating it for a while, finishing the last few page of that chapter together.

>>3941149
Thanks, I just hope it might be something people find interesting at least. Although frankly I am pretty stagnent so the change isn't drastic.

>>3941290
nah, it probably won't take nearly that long.

>>3941322
Being in the customer/corporate service frontline for a decade has that effect.

>>3941378
@ac120rfw

2019 progress

not a lot of drawing done this year but working on a gfl book is giving me some good motivation

>>3947153
Hey, I remember your stuff from 2017. Your stuff is really good, I like your 2018 stuff. I think you might just wanna try doing more complex pieces again, and maybe try some stuff with figure interactions and environments cause you don't have a lot of that in your current stuff.

>>3942245
why does he get malnourished in 2016

>>3947157
appreciate it homie

also i agree on trying more complex stuff, i'm pretty bad at environments but it's something i'd like to try incorporating

>>3943739
trying too hard, but I like your anime aesthetic

>>3941317
literal retard. post your work so we can mock you.
2014 is the first year of slow down and 2016 is the first point you can call for the start stagnation.

again, post your work so we can humiliate you.

>>3947170
Not saying that dude wasn't a crab but
>Nosebro
>Calling other artists stagnant

>>3942800

>>3947173
its just not obvious because i dont have a blog.

>>3947183
Post an actual timeline, then. The stuff you're posting now looks no different than the stuff I first saw from you in 2016-2017. Like I don't wanna bust your balls too hard man, but if you should have a realistic view on your own art and improvement at least.

>>3947186
this is end of 2016.

>>3947186
this is last month

and i got faster too.

>>3947186

>>3947195
>>3947191
>>3947190
Have you ever even made a finished piece?

>>3947195
the intent and difficulty of what i draw is completely different too. But it really comes down to an issue of people improving with me hence not noticing my improvements.

if you google my name into images youll see some in-betweeners as well.

>>3947000
idk what it is but I love the vibe of your drawings

>>3947197
a real finished piece, not in the last 3.5 years. When i started thinking about painting. The transition to painting made it so that i never wanted to finish a piece anymore ( i used to cel-shade and do anime). Nowadays its a conflict of patience and interest that causes me not to end things. Youll notice that i have a few incomplete paintings, but beyond that, every one of them has 10 different color schemes in their original files were i go a bit crazy. Once my painting skills get closer to where i want them my pieces will start being completed too.

>>3947207
i never finish stuff so that makes it hard. Also, i never use references which is my main struggle when painting. Trying to learn in a vacuum as much as possible.

>>3947210
>Trying to learn in a vacuum as much as possible.
What the fuck why would you do this to yourself do you like making everything supremely difficult for no reason??

>>3947226
ya actually i do the same thing in fitness and now i can ohp more than i can squat. I know the road i take in art is a very special one, but im different enough that I can make it work. Once i start making my youtube tutorials in 2 or 3 years itll be clear what this has provided me.

>>3947198
>>3947207
I don't want to sound too mean, but dude, you really need to be honest with yourself. You have solid fundies, but I have no idea where I'm supposed to be seeing improvement. Even disregarding the face everything here is a sketch, 80% of what you're doing are just bland neutral headshots. There's some slight anatomical improvements in >>3947191
compared to the previous, but other than that there's not a lot.
You're comfort zoning really really really hard right now. You draw faces over and over again and are avoiding stuff like full bodies, environments, color, and inking. Learning to be comfortable in any one of these topics would improve your art and make it immensely more appealing to look at, cause frankly a page of half-finished face sketches just isn't interesting to look at.
>>3947210
Finishing stuff and making stuff look presentable is a skill that can be learned and improved, and by avoiding it you're only hurting yourself. By that I don't mean you have to render the shit out of everything you do, but you should try to make it look good and have a unique point to it. Look at famous artist's sketchbooks, the stuff in pic related isn't completed, but it has a unique point to it: showing us character designs and giving us an impression of their personalities. Why are you showing us random profiles you draw 4 times over? This is not to say you shouldn't do repetitive studies, but you should do drawings that look interesting and have a point to them as well.
I think you have a lot of potential, but I think you're just failing to push yourself to do more.

>>3947233
how much do you squat and ohp

>>3947261
OHP 1pl8 -10lbs

Squat roughly bar+40, my goal is that once i reach ohp 1 pl8 ill start squatting because itll be less effort for reracking.

>>3947238
the way i see it, ive just been practicing line design, form and shapes heavily.

>>3947267
Yeah, and you've been barely improving in those areas. If you really want to get better with your shapes and line design, do some character design or environment design. Challenging yourself to apply the knowledge will teach you more than drawing the same face over and over again. If you wanna get better at forms, try rendering a sketch so you can understand how light wraps around it instead of drawing bald chicks over and over again. You're practicing a lot, but you're learning nothing from it. You need to change something about the art you make if you wanna do something about it.

>>3947283
>You're practicing a lot
im really not, im just fast. I drew maybe 37 min a day on average

>>3947238
>>3947283

Based.

However he is too NGMI to be enlightened, you should give up now. He doesn't want to hear that he's fucking himself over by staying in his comfort zone. Let him fuck himself. He probably is the kind of person that learns things the hard way.

>>3947288
Ngmi and double-ngmi to the rescue. Gesture battle me.

>>3947291
You don't need to gesture battle, you need to sit down and make a finished piece.

>>3947299
I'm sure i can win a gesture battle, I'm not sure I can finish a piece.

>>3947303
Exactly. You don't need to grind practicing something you know you're good at, you need to do something that will actually be beneficial to you.
Speaking of which, my own gestures are pretty sorely lacking and I really do need more practice. I'd do the gesture battle thing if you could explain how it worked.

>>3947299
Fucking obliterated him lol

>>3947291
>Gesture battle
You're gonna lose, buddy. How about you go run along and practice? How many years have you been shitting around on this board now? You know, most people would have made it with that much time and practice by now. I wonder, what's holding you back? Maybe if you stopped shitting around on 4chan all day and took some advice for once you'd be getting better instead of stagnating / getting worse.

>>3947303
Let's do a finished piece battle, nosebro.

>>3947314
Nice to see you chico
>>3947310
>>3947306
discord.gg/CUm9kC

1v1 me gesture battle ill be waiting

>>3947315
maybe if you win a gesture battle id think about considering the hypothetical prospect of finishing something.

meh

>>3947321
Im sorry for your loss

>>3946896

You do know some people purposely redraw the same thing again to show progression?

>>3947267
Those stats are pathetic man, follow a program but make sure you're ohping everyday.
Same with your art. There are some people born in the world who truly have an intuition when it comes to these things, but you're clearly not one of them. Even they don't progress unless they do some structured studies.
This goes for every field. Put your ego aside and put your nose in the books while grinding fundies if you ever plan on improving by the time you're 50.

>>3947336
??

Quick sketch and gesture, January vs may

>>3947343
post body

>>3947190
>>3947191
>>3947195
>>3947198
What's the fucking point of gestures if you don't even use them to finish a single piece

>i got faster
But have you ever finished any work at all

ech

>>3946892
first of all, that's horseshit. drawing dragonball is not impeding anyone from improving. 2nd i would like to improve at that as well. third, i basically did stop in 2016. ive made like 1 drawing of it in 3 years. that is on display in the very picture you commented on. it boggles the mind how people can be as stupid as you.

>>3947373
I actually prefer the left for its atmosphere. That said, everything about the right is a technical improvement. You did good with slanting the text on the walls.

Also, we both know that no bathroom stall with graffiti in/on it has ever looked like that. There'd be a lot less variety in word choice.

did a shorter one of only color 2013 - 2019

>>3947370
GeSTuRE bAtTlE mE

>nosebro shows up
>thread immediately gets flooded with the same exact argument about how much of a faggot he is that always happens
just fucking ban him already

>>3947435
you cant ban me im the living icon of the board

>>3947442
Why do you always ruin threads my dude?

>>3940001
I guess you did this as a comission? If so, you should really take some time to do some drawing for yourself. I love my stuff, and tend to work faster/better when i like what i do.

When i draw for someone else and they ask some BS about their ''original'' character, my work is always more sluggish.

You will never develope if you don't work for yourself. You have to like and want to do more to get better.

>>3947452
I defended someone else then defended myself. As far as im concerned i made a friend with the person i gesture battled.

>>3947485
We're not friends afaic

>>3945093
Dude, how did you figure out perspective so fast?

>>3945093
I was looking at it backwards and wondering wtf happened for a second

>>3947487
its not your decision buddy

>>3947442
based

>>3947484
nice shapes

>>3947484
Dude i actually like those from 2017-2018. Do you post your stuff somewhere?

>>3947529
Thanks!
instagram.com/wicksz

>>3939595
very comfy desu wish I was close to this
post your stuff now curious to see progress

>>3947321
I can see the progress, good job

>>3946691
Good fucking job man, this is amazing, really inspiring to see all the changes you made

>>3947549
Yeah a few shadings here and there, nice 4 year improvements

>>3947534
So, i just went trough your instagram. I like your stylized stuff, but i came across one of your drawing that i can't understand. Actually, its not exactly what i mean.

The one with the fisherman. Its like there is 5 people at the same spot. What went trough your mind when you made this? Like, legit question.

(So you understand, i'm not saying its ugly. I simply don't understand it.)

>>3947559
not op but im pretty sure its a runescape meme my dude haha.

I see some good improvement but I have a constant thought of "What if I stagnated". Does anyone else have this feeling too when they draw?

>>3947207
>>3947198
>>3947210
>>3947191
>>3947195
you seem like the type of dude that would make a webcomic but just stop after a time. what's up with you and not finishing shit. what was the reason you wanted to learn to draw


come on dude try and finish something and take it somewhere

>>3945108
>>3945222
Thanks guys

>>3947678
youve got me PEGGED correctly, its too start a comic. I'm planning to draw it out when im 55ish post-retirement. I've got the skeleton ready but i want much more research and much more elegance to be added to the imagery.

Currently im struggling because my story can technically be read as an allegory of "racism-bad" and that's not a message I approve of as a statistically driven prejudiced man.

>>3947559
Hahahaha it's a runescape fanart (mmorpg where everybody's characters clip into each other)

>>3947484
Post socials, ive seen you before

>>3947641
so anime cured you're gay?

>>3947858
absolutely

>>3947824
>>3947559

>>3947690
>I'm planning to draw it out when im 55ish post-retirement
This looks like a shitpost but because it's Nosebro I can't be certain.

>>3947318
i barely come here and yet i know about you.
you're pathetic, dude, jesus christ

>>3947824
>>3947534

>>3947641
did you transition between dec 2017 - may 2019

>>3939503
finally i am not the only one. Honestly tired of everyone wanting to kill themselves. It ain't that bad, and if it is it's because you're a degenerate / reprobate.

I made 2 of them. This one is what i'd consider to be average game

>>3948109
oh average game, but not including fails, because then every year would look like shit.

and this one is best game of the year

>>3947880
im serious lol

Heres a few pages.

I can't dedicate thousands of hours on something unless im retired, and ill be making too much money to let go of that, which means i have to go this route.

>>3939390
Beginning of the school year

>>3948377
about a month ago

>>3948379
a little over a week ago.

>>3948377
>>3948379
>>3948380
Sorry about the size, picture quality. I'm a tard when it comes to technology.

>>3948109
>>3948112
You regressed from 2017 on

Progress from since when I graduated highschool (class of '15). I've thoroughly enjoyed painting - but I feel my trajectory and interests are going back to what I was more interested in middle school/late elementary. I want to get back into anime as I've been reading shonen manga - however, I fear that would jeopardize my chances of a good portfolio for editorial work (book covers, pamphlets, etc) I also have an interest in character design, but my skills in that department as just beginning to grow. Any feedback would be appreciated.

>>3948601
Your stuff looks alright, but I think you aren't improving much since 2016 because your stuff is pretty unambitious. Through all your pieces I see one full body, and one with both characters and a background. This really gives me the impression you aren't pushing yourself. You have some solid color and decent painting skills, but you're only doing easy and simple subjects, mainly portraits. It would help you a lot I feel to start doing some drawings with figures placed in backgrounds/environments doing stuff, because that will probably take you out of your comfort zone and help you figure out your weaknesses more easily, and be able to confront them and improve from there.

>>3948612
That's what I was thinking - I need to build up more knowledge of dynamic composition, warped perspective, etc. Having my figures interacting in various poses is something I've been working on in my sketchbook for sometime. I think having two or three complete pieces with a figures in finished backgrounds like you said would really help both my creative thinking and my portfolio as well.

>>3948415
funny I posted this on /i/ and someone said the same thing

>>3947267
Set the bar lower when you start to squat, good lord you don't need to ohp it back on the rack

>>3947370
What's the point? Grinding fundamentals. Isn't that what /ic/ says is the path to getting good?

>>3939456
thats some Scp shit right there

>>3939436
oh god why

>>3943705
Kek

>>3939653
Not a meme but required iq in the positive

>>3939525
20:15 and 20:19

>>3947190
>>3947191
Even if your technical skill improved, you did nothing to showcase it here. This only looks like some HUGE stagnation, if not regression in some places.

You know what, I really need to thank you Nosebro, for being one of this board's biggest cautionary tales. Thank you for reminding us to not end up like you.

Coloring from grayscale is hard

>>3949489
will mister crab post some work while hes at it?

>>3949489
But I thought grinding fundies was the way to get good! Are you saying it's not?

here's your art progression bro

>>3947559
not them but its runescape fanart
looks like what happens when people put their runescape characters on top of each other

>>3950877
They got him, bros.

>>3949137
The thing is all your grinding is pointless if you aint gonna do a finished piece. You're forever a mindless gesture fag

>>3944379
thanks anon, saved.