/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

"Fuck You" difficulty level: actually finish something

>>3930172
fuck you difficulty: draw a kangaroo from imagination

>Fuck You Difficulty
Draw anything that's not shitty anime

I'm guessing among the hardest difficulty may be animating a scene like this (with no tracing over CG models): https://www.sakugabooru.com/post/show/15832

>fuck you difficulty level
become a world-renowned artist synonymous with your craft.

seriously, if i ask some random asshole on the street who doesn't know dick about art who his favorite painter is/who he believes is a great painter, what do you think he's going to say?

picasso, da vinci, maybe rembrandt, or van gogh. basically, become the elvis presley of illustrating or something. guy probably has the most recognizable face on earth -- people can still pick him out of a line-up over in japan -- and he's been dead for nearly 42 years and never toured (musically) outside of the states.

being that casual of a name-drop because you are that respected/acknowledged by your descendants for your masterpieces is the definitive fuck you difficulty.

Lets, brainstorm
Draw all basic shapes
shade a smooth transition from light to dark
Shade all basic shapes
All shapes fully shaded with different textures
One point perspective drawing
two point perspective drawing
three point perspective
Still life
negative space drawing
Gesture drawing
Plain air drawing
skeleton
muscle
draw a bust from photo
draw a full length person
draw a bust from live model
draw a full length person from life
learn head construction
learn full body construction
draw hands
draw feet
full body in perspective. multiple figures

>>3930221
>seriously, if i ask some random asshole on the street who doesn't know dick about art who his favorite painter is/who he believes is a great painter, what do you think he's going to say?
"The dude who draws dragonball"? Why would someone who doesn't care about art mention Van Gogh, more likely they would mention some generic pop culture thing they're into. Or if they're a hipster maybe they'll say a "deep" artist like Tracey Emin
https://www.tate.org.uk/art/artworks/emin-terribly-wrong-p11565
Fame doesn't equal skill, Emin's famous enough to be in art museums despite half of /ic/ drawing better than her.

>>3930237
Cool! Unfortunately I can't think up much myself.

>>3930256
>Why would someone
Because you need to get outside more and interact with people.

>>3930169
>Is there an /ic/ version of this?
Yes

>>3930169
>game of life
>yellow
I've done that one. However I've no idea how to do most of the greens.

>>3930601
wow epic comeback xDDDD

>>3930621
Not the same, there's no ranking of these in terms of difficulty.

>>3930621
rollin

>>3930621
Lets try this out...

>>3930621

>>3930621
ROLL

>>3930621
Rolling

>>3930621
Rollerino

>>3931101
This was fun

>>3930621
:thenking:

>>3930621
Rollang

>>3931035
That's not a comeback, retard, it's an honest piece of advice. Actually go outside and ask random people about their favourite artists, if you really think what you wrote is true to any degree.

>>3930621
okie lets give it a go

>>3930621
Lets go

>>3930621
these are good proms, but we need some bullshit to mix in like
Draw an Oriental rug
MC Esher drawing
Interlocking pattern of animal drawing
Fish eye lens perspective.
Technical drawing of an Machine or engine
Infinite Mirror drawing
Draw a scene with 100 individual objects

>>3930621
roll

>>3930621
roll two

>>3930621
rolling!

>>3930621
ye

>>3931277
epic bro xDDDD almost as epic as ben shapiro

>>3931167
Good drawing.

>>3930621
R

>>3931043
>>3931054
>>3931088
>>3931095
>>3931101
>>3931106
>>3931184
>>3931211
>>3931293
>>3931338
>>3931677
>>3931679
>>3931698
>>3931873
>>3935133
>all these rolls
>only one delivery
Never change /ic/

>>3935140
guess he was right
>>3930172
>"Fuck You" difficulty level: actually finish something

>Difficulty tiers :
1) Drawing from reference, with construction lines, simple figures
2) Drawing from reference, anatomical challenges (poses, feet, bent limbs ...)
3) Drawing w/o reference, with a precise prompt (draw this doing that)
4) Drawing w/o reference, with a prompt and a challenge (draw this doing that, full body, with a background, with a second character, zero-gravity, whatever)
5) Abstract prompt (freedom, weakness, morning, inktober-tier shit), and multiple challenges (drawn as would be seen from underneath, drawn without underdrawing, drawn in another artist's style)

>Categories
Anatomy
Volumes/Shading
Character Desing
Panel composition (less emphasis on the actual graphic quality)
Style exercice (weeb, western, smut, cal arts, whatever)

One thing that can be done is "do half the challenge and post it, pick someone else's half and finish it", maybe reroll if you pick up something

>>3930621
Most of these are disappointingly boring. Maybe another one with more classically geared prompts would be interesting

>>3930621
rollo

>>3930621
>>3935231
nah rerollo

>>3935172
Stop lying to yourself, you wouldn't draw any other prompts either.

>>3930621
Roll

>>3935281
I would, I draw random shit all day, just scribbled some birds my dude

>>3935231
>>3935233

faggot

>>3930621
Roll
>>3935140
I'll deliver but it'll be literal garbage

>>3935288
So what don't you like about those prompts? What did you roll? What can you suggest instead? Personally, I like most of them.

>>3930169
>what the "Fuck You" difficulty level challenges would be?
making money without porn

>>3930621
roll

>>3935496
>something broken
myself

>>3930621
Roller skates

>>3935500
Holy shet I'm beg enough to make this right, I'll try anyways.

>>3935475
I rolled the two people of different ethnicity, which isn't too bad but it's pretty boring. There's a lot of character type prompts and a lot of just shit ones, like a crumpled paper.
More challenging stuff, less character based, more classical subjects like botany to balance it. Because when those stuff are rolled its just "a dog" when it could be "a shaggy playful dog"
And maybe style prompts, like stippling, or paint something channeling Van Gogh.
Might be better to have a separate prompt list geared to those that aren't beg or just want to be challenged more.

>>3930621
Don't give me something retarded

>>3930621
Roll

>>3930621
Rolling so that I can be the only faggot who finishes

>>3930621
I'll try it

>>3930621
Rollo

>>3930621
Hmm, today I think I will roll.

>>3930621
roll for later

>>3930621
rollin

>>3935589
damn I need to do some tonal studies

>>3935582
Clothes are fucking retarded

>>3930621
hello darkness my old friend

>>3930621
These are kindof shit. Random with no sort of theme behind em.

>>3935586
>solid
Shitting bricks

>>3935824
why is your style so ugly

>>3930621
Roll. May or may not finish.

>>3935825
I don't know what that means or what you want me to do about it. Thats how I draw...

>>3930621
epic

>>3935846
>a plastic bag

wow, 1 off from something actually fun. Who ever made this trash ran out of good ideas 20% in.

>>3935843
i like it anon it's cool, pretty disgusting but cool

>>3935848
How do you know if drawing a plastic bag is fun or not until you actually try it? Avoiding subjects because of a perceived boringness is a bad mindset for improvement, anon.

>>3935843
I know who you are, pretty sure I follow you on tumblr. If you aren't consciously making your style so unappealing maybe you should consider aesthetics a little more or at least be intentional in the uglyness. at least know all your drawings have this strained, unnatural, unpleasant look.

>>3930237
can their be animation exorcise?
animate a bean sack jumping or running. Anything related to animation

>>3935848
>plastic bag
Bags are toys

>>3935894
>strained, unnatural, unpleasant look
Interesting observation - I guess this drawing maintains consistency. Drawing characters under stress is relaxing.

>>3935593
Aspiring mangaka.

>>3935825
fuck off
>>3930621
woop woop

>>3930621
I'm not falling for this bait

>>3931167
How the hell can someone draw something this high quality in about 1 hour? Is this the kind of people lurking this board? I'm scared

>>3930621
roll

>>3930621

>>3930621
Yes

>>3935996
37, 2

>>3930621
roll bb

>>3935294
you wanna to suck my dick ?

>>3930621
time to roll and not deliver

>>3936308
nah that's stupid, rerolling

>>3930621
Rolling, so I can have another thing to never finish.

>>3930621
Dingy dnag

>>3935233

>>3930621
Rawlin'

>>3930621
but it's not the same. Also roll

>>3930621
ROLL
O
L
L

>>3930256
good draftsmanship alone doesn't owe you anything. it's what resonates with people that matters

i kind of like that print, it has a desperate schiele quality to it

>>3936936
Pls forgive drawing from imagination and no rendering. I just wanted to finish something for once.

>>3935908
Excellent. I see the dynamics.

>>3935824
Nice perspective.

>>3930169
r8 my roller guys.

>>3937105
Ok

>>3937105
Rolling

>>3937105
It's better than >>3930621

>>3935159
Good ideas.

>>3937105
This will more than suffice if nothing else gets made itt. Maybe I'll deliver on this one. Rerolling if I get anything in the 50s though because I only have black and white materials
>>3930169
Well we'd have to identify the differences between each skill level first. What is a beginner supposed to know EXACTLY? What is an intermediate supposed to know? What is a god supposed to know?
>>3930237
A good list
>>3935159
This is a really good starting point. I think maybe we could mash out 25 challenges for each tier and then that gives us 125, and then each tier has 5 challenges per category

>>3937182
If you did 20 challenges for each tier, you'd end up with an even hundred which would let you roll.

>>3937188
I was too stuck on getting 5 in each category and wasn't thinking you could just have 4 per category and it'd still divide clean.
Another idea though would be if we can put 200 challenges together then you could still roll and your third digit determines if you pick from 0-100 or 101-200 based on odds or evens.


Anyways pic related is my sketch of the challenge so far. I was going to have the wizard shoot lightning and realized I have no idea how to make that work. I'm tempted to erase the hadouken and turn it into a destructo disc since I can grasp the shape of that easier.

>>3930621
roll and fuck

>>3930621
Role

>>3930621
Rolling

>>3930621
fuck here we go

>>3937322
Wew

>>3937197
If you want to go full autistic gigaroller, you could do 400 and have a 20x20 grid and have a 4-3-2-1-weighted grouping for the third-to-last digit for difficulty tiers.

>>3937718
>4-3-2-1-weighted grouping
huh?

>>3937718
Meaning that in a row of 10, 4 are one group, 3 are another, and so on. That way you could make sure the "fuck you"-tier is rare while babby mode is the most common.

>>3930621
Roll

>>3930621
rrrrr

>>3930221
>guy on street
>rembrandt
Yeah no

>>3937898
Alright so let me do this math
400 challenges divided into 5 categories is 80 challenges per category. Divide that into the weighting is:
That's 32 beginner challenges, 24 intermediate challenges, 16 advanced challenges, and 8 fuck-yous per category

So as far as categories I like Anatomy, Volumes, Composition, and Style as categories. I think Character design should be expanded to "Design" so that we can put in enviornmental design or other design challenges.

So as far as challenges what should they be? So far I'm thinking

Anatomy: Do 5 2 minute gestures of humans doing simple poses (beginner),
Volumes: Draw 10 of [platonic volume (Sphere, Cube, Cone, Cylinder, Pyramid, Torus)] from any angle (beginner), Shade 10 of [platonic volume] from light to dark
Design: ????
Composition: Draw a character standing straight up from a head-on angle (beginner)
Style: Draw something in your style (beginner), Print out a still frame from any 2d disney movie and trace over it (beginner),

and I also need to figure out how to place >>3930237 into these because some of them are a bit nonspecific

Oh wait a fucking minute, can't we just go grab a bunch of excercises from the recommended beginner/intermediate/expert books and make those challenges? That's gotta be at least a few hundred challenges right there

>>3937955
The simplest thing would be to have a grid with exercises on one axis and objects on the other (especially if we really are doing 400).

The downside is that you'd have to classify certain subjects and exercises as inherently one tier.

For the sake of convenience, I'm assuming the "subjects" are what we're categorizing. For that, my idea for five categories is is:
>Shapes
>Objects
>Anatomy
>Environments
>Expressions (or something. I couldn't think of anything else that wasn't already one of the other four categories)

Things like Form, weight, volume, shading, perspective, dynamics, style, interaction, design, and the like make sense as "exercise" categories.

For exercises, the I can see something like:
>Draw one X 10 times
>Combine three X 5 times
>Design two products with X in mind

It could easily make for some laughs. Like eldritch hand amalgamations or products based around cubes.

>>3937978 works too.

>>3930621
man i can't believe i rolled this number! good thing i studied loomis!

>>3937052
You drew the box wrong...

>>3930621
Rollimg

>>3938030
To be fair, I drew everything else wrong too.

Not to worry, though. I'm sure I'll get there eventually.

>>3937991
I kind of can't wrap my head around the way you want to lay out the roller so maybe if you could explain it a bit further or put down some more examples?

>>3937105
I'll give it a try tomorrow

>>3930621
rollin'

>>3930621
let's try

>>3930621
Rolling for later.

>>3937105
Rolling

>>3938368
Obviously the rows and columns wouldn't be this tiny. But this format would let you have only 20 "subjects" (types of shapes, portions of anatomy, etc.) and 20 types of exercises ("draw one X ten times", "Design a product based around X", etc.)

Also this way you can weigh the exercises by difficulty (8 rows beginner, 2 rows fuck-you, etc.). And you could have 4 columns for each category (assuming we do 5. - 4 categories would have 5 columns each).

>>3930169
dont think I will post it here, but ROLLO!

>>3938628
You can probably weigh subjects by difficulty too (A leg vs a full body, a tree vs a whole landscape, etc).

>>3930621
ROLL

>>3930169
>made this bullshit instead of drawing
done - rate my RTD or suggest any tweeks

>>3930169
>got clipped
>>wasted time on this instead of drawing
Rate it or tweak it

>>3930621
rol l

>>3930621
rolll

>>3930621
Roll

>>3938998
>Ligameme
Wut? Also rollan

>>3939150
>He doesn't know about the palmaris longus
Newfriend, the ligameme is the physical manifestation of the spark.

>>3938082
Yeh, but the box shows that you haven't been studying your fundies

>>3930621
rolllll

>>3939010

>>3938998
roll again

>>3938998
It's alright, but the thing about these prompt lists is I like to just save them and use them as sketchbook material and ignore the Roll to Draw element altogether.

So pretty good. Some with a lot of room for interpretation, extremely varied, a couple there that are tied to board culture I'd do very soft interpretations of (anything involving tumblr style or annoying the board on purpose).

>>3930169
>79 Basic boot loader
Why is this Fuck You level? A BL is 50 lines of code. We give this to junior engineers as their first project. BL should be minimal lines of code and low complexity, the application should perform the image download
>check update pending flag
>call HW CRC from start to end address
>pass and set jump, fail jump to FW updater

As compared to...
>142 Seam carving
Has dynamic programming and image reconstruction...

>>3930621
rollin'

>>3930621
rollan

>>3935824
>>3935907
I like your style, these are cool.

>>3930621
roll

>>3938998
rolll

>>3930621
roll

>>3938998
Hopeful roll

>>3938998
saved

>>3930621
Rell

>>3937105
I like this, now my 100 side dice has a use.

>>3930621
Why the fuck not, rolling

>>3939704
>>3938998
Ew rerolling

>>3930621
Rolling.

>>3938998
Not posting a portrait of my mom to 4chan, what on gods green earth possessed you to think that'd be a good idea

>>3938998
Rolling.

>>3939750
The dumb construction lines I do for imaginative stuff, I'm not spending hours lmao

>>3938998

rolling

>>3939750
>>3939774
pussy

>>3939786
I do portraiture, she'd be recognizable and I'm paranoid
But I'm also just lazy sometimes
>>3938998
I'll roll again in hopes of something fun

>>3938998
tweaked it a bit
>Less Loomis, more varied studies
>Sub tasks for crossboards
>More specific Art era studies
>minor text edits

>>3939304
thanks for the feedback - worked on some of the boring categories

>>3939750
>mom
I assumed most of you live with your mom, she can do free nude modeling for you - just trying to encourage /ic/ to be more resourceful. I guess you can do your dad instead...

>>3939805
>recognizable
are you afraid that some anon is going to remember that he banged your mom?

>>3939805
>I do portraiture, she'd be recognizable
Um, is this your post >>3939774?

>>3939964
Get rid of the calarts/tumblr/SU style ones, those are all basically the same thing. Vary it up a little.

>>3938998
ROLL FOR BETTER TIMES

>>3940148
Are you daft or just blind

>>3939964
They wish
>>3940144
Yes rag on my 10 minute skribble, I don't mind. You employ different skills when working on 5+ hour long portraits as opposed to a shitpost on ic and I'm sure you know that

>>3930621
roll

>>3930621
sigh roll

>>3930621
Rolllll

>>3930621

>>3939964
converged on a few things, I'll check back later if anyone has other feedback

>>3940148
those were the only styles off the top of my head - changed it up a bit

>>3940362
>Page of hands/feet being NGMI tier

>>3930621
rolll

>>3939600
Okay I actually drawed it.

>>3940362
Fuck some of these seem pretty hard. I'll give it a roll and hope for the best.

>>3937105
rollr

>>3940418
kys

>>3940425
It's something.

>>3930621
ok...

>>3940516
that was fun

>>3940570
>>3940516

and I'm a flaming retard

>>3940594
lefty gang

>>3935996
>>3936119
>>3940362
15

>>3930621

>>3930621
ROLL

>>3930621
Big toll

>>3935996
>>3936119
>>3940690
>>3940362
9

>>3930621
roll

>>3940694
Man from the future, everybody.

>>3937105
Roll time even if I know that I'll ignore the result and never try it if I don't feel like it's easy enough thanks.

>>3930621
I wanna go again

>>3930621
>>3937105
>>3938998
>>3939964
>>3940362
Gigaroll. I'll draw the most fun one

>>3940690
>>3940785
These are awesome nice work

>>3940460
He looks like a douche gj

>>3940872
Good luck, maybe I’ll piggy back

>>3940362
hoping i could get a quick one

>>3938628
Hey did I miss anything.

>>3935996
>>3936119
>>3940690
>>3940785
>>3942089
-0785: 'Draw (Y=7) (X=Plants) fused into an unholy eldritch abomination.'

>>3940895
Thanks very much

>>3942089
Bless

>>3942258
>Draw a coherent comic about environments with at least 2 2-page spreads
I can't even do a 4 panel comic as it is.

>>3940895
Look ma no tracing!

How do you do chromatic aberration in procreate??

>>3942315
duplicate the image, remove a channel, red green or blue. set the blending mode to lighten and move the image around and done.

>>3942263
Use your imagination, Anon. You got this.

>>3942089
Rolling.

>>3942089
roll

>>3940362
Okay let's see.

>>3930188
Lmao

>>3930169
Ignore everything above
This it the definitive RTD
fucking rolling

>>3942443
Eh, it's about the prompt, not the will. I like something to sink my teeth in and play around with, not just grinding out studies or sitting there blowing a raspberry waiting for ideas to materialize.

>>3942443
Rollin.

>>3942315
I’m not going to lie... chromatic aberration is pretty fucking cool

>>3942334
Thanks for the tips!

>>3940362
Reroll?

>>3942443
roll

>>3930256
it's not like I like tracy emin but if you seriously believe that what people think is good about her is how skilfully she can draw you're a fucking idiot

>>3940626
sinister AF yo.

>>3942089
Roll for a warmup

>>3940362
Roll

>>3944075
Wtf how does is even supposed to work? I don't browse /fit/ and I don't know shit about shonen. /fit/ isn't even a board for posting pictures. Reroll.

>>3930621
roolin

>>3930621
roll

>>3930621
rawl

>>3944079
make this faggot go super Saiyan >>>/fit/50906967

>>3944163
Sorry, I already rerolled and drew this.

>>3937105
I like this one, roll.

>>3942089
Just want to mention to praise the creator, that I'm in love with this version, and though I'd rather keep them private, I've already completed a good number of rolls in my sketchbook. So thanks anon, this is great.

>>3944182

>>3942089
ok

>>3930621
rolling the roll

>>3930621
Roll

>>3940448
You don't like brunettes?

>>3930621
Rolleroni

>>3942089
Rawlin'.

>>3930621
Rolling

>>3930621
rorr

>>3937105
r

>>3938998
r

>>3936587

Cool, expecially seen from distance.

>>3930621
roll

>>3945002

>>3935996
>>3936119
>>3940690
>>3940785
>>3942228
>>3930621
28

>>3939297
>>3939964
rollerinoo

>>3946125
>old art

>>3937105
rold

>>3938998

im drawing animal crossing roll

>>3941988
late delivery
definitely not my forte but its a good change

>>3930621
Roll

>>3930621
rollin

>>3930621

hm gay

>>3930621
roll

>>3946125
Is that bts V? I draw him constantly

>>3930621
it's not like this will make draw anyway

>>3930169
Which other boards do you think could possible have a challenges thingy?

>>3930621
roll boiiiii

>>3930621
Rolingo

>>3930621
Roll

>>3930621
rollingg

>>3942089
let's see

>>3950591
>a 4koma about the wonders of mammals

>>3930621
Lets gooo

>>3937105
roll

>>3930621
Rollan

>>3937105
why not

>>3930621
rollo

>>3930621
roll

>>3930621
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