/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

Working on a biggest image I've ever done (upgraded pc so could ramp up the reso a bit)

anyone printed big stuff out before? the longest side on this is 1.8 meters.

also any crits are welcome

>>3903273
This looks so fucking good ! Love the colours and atmosphere

>>3903273
This is pretty cool.
>>3903304
I like this! But what's wrong with her panties? It's like you forgot to render them.
>>3903307
I like it.
>>3903356
>>3903357
I'd like to see it finished. So far, it's pretty good especially the second one.

>>3903388
I haven’t finished it yet haha, thanks though, I’ll get on to then soon enough

>>3903388
needs more chromatic aberration and grain

>>3903388
what's the appeal of making your art purposefully cancer on the eyes?

>>3903415
At least it causes cancer on someone

>>3903257
How am I doing guys?

Some heads.
Top left was first sketch, with the right ones being corrections from Loomis' book.
Tried to make some more views at the bot, but they still give off the uncanny valley effect, and I'm not sure why.

>>3903615
Aw dude, good on you, they look decent

Is been a while since i did studies

>>3903663

>>3903307
What is this style of sketching called? I know it belongs to one of the artists that're memed on here but I'm not sure which on.

>>3903663
Try redoing a couple of them. Look at your first attempt, decide what aspect you want to approve on, do another. Targeted practice.

>>3903554
stop drawing cartoons and go draw anime

Working on this but i have no idea where to take it, tell me if there's anything that I've just completely fucked without noticing

>>3903687
i tried to.. im gonna stop here tho, i want to focus on making it a habit firts

>>3903818
the neck feels long

>>3903388
>I'd like to see it finished.
I can't :(
I always fail even when I try my hardest
The more time i spend on a painting the more mistakes i make

Finished this a little over a week ago for a contest here at school. Any tips for speeding up by like a shit ton and maybe improving my visual memory? In total it took me north of 40 hours and I also used references because I'm pretty shit without them.

>>3903999
Used this because I kept seeing it around the site and figured it would be fun to draw. Flowers were from pics I took at a garden.

>>3904001
Also sent this in too although I did it months back. Also from references.

>>3903257
I really like the thumbnail for this but not the full view, how can i unify the two? What is the reduced size doing to it that makes it look better?

>>3903999

Just keep drawing. The more you do it the easier it is to see and render forms.

>>3904066

The thumbnail compresses the tones making it look more detailed. If you want it to be similar larger then simply add more detail to the foreground. I think that might help.

>>3904088
Thank you :3

>>3904091
No prob

>>3903999
Push for more contrast it’s too faint. You can speed things up by only rendering important details and leaving other areas more messy, and it can still look very realistic

This is what I'm currently working on.

Any advice? I've been trying to get some rich dark tones, but I can't seem to get them. Thinking of trying carbon pencils out on it, but I've never used that medium before. Any advice about it?

>>3903673
Michael Hampton maybe?

>>3903818
Long neck and his right arm looks as if it started from his left shoulder with the scarf going parallel like that. Always try to avoid tangents if you can

>>3903859
I feel you.

>>3903273
small update, not sure about the king Snowball though

>>3903859
learning how to take a sketch/speedpaint & polish it into a final image is one of the hardest & easiest to neglect skills. i'm still struggling with this a lot too but i find once you get to this stage, it helps to work in much shorter sittings i;e 15 to 30 minutes and taking lots of breaks. you're improving a lot, anon.

>>3904469
Man this thing is taking you waaay too long

tried drawing gf today

used a black colord pencil

>>3904515
tried working it digitaly, but dont rly like the result. dont know y.

>>3904561

>>3904515
>>3904561
>>3904562
I think it’s because the original drawing is too messy from the black colored pencil

how do I improve the background?

>>3904645
nice work

>>3904562
thumbnail looks readable legs are short tho maby add colors increase darks

>>3904645
solid shapes

>>3904646
torso too angled looks bit dislocated

>>3904681
i lke the teeth

Plucking away at this thingy, still a lot to work on though

>>3904777
Btw values are too dark, I know. One of the things I have to fix later

>>3904777
I like it, it's very cozy.
I have a few thoughts on it though, if I'm missing something feel free to ignore this post.
-The light behind the waterfalls looks like it's outside. If so, I'm guessing this place is the exit?
-The overgrowth just kind of leads into what looks like a normal hallway.
-The statues seem to be made out of some ambiguous material. I was thinking maybe bronze, since they stand out from the stone so much (and I figure stone would erode under a waterfall)
-The water towards the top looks quite fast, but relatively still at the bottom of the image. It may be because it's unfinished though.

If I didn't mention anything else, it's because I already like it.
One thing you could add is maybe a branch/vine or something to connect the foreground to the rest of the image a bit more.

>>3904777
Dude you just showed me exactly what my goals should be in regards to environmental art, this looks fucking AMAZING. Thank you for sharing. Do you have any tips ?

>>3904838
Overall this is some concept piece for a place I imagine for a project.

>The light behind the waterfalls looks like it's outside. If so, I'm guessing this place is the exit?
I thought of it more than an entrance area to a much bigger place so yeah, It's a kind of exit.
>The overgrowth just kind of leads into what looks like a normal hallway.
That's the entrance to the real thing, not sure if I'll let it bright or have it descend into the darkness, probably the latter
>The statues seem to be made out of some ambiguous material. I was thinking maybe bronze, since they stand out from the stone so much (and I figure stone would erode under a waterfall)
Honestly I didn't think too much about the material and its behavior with water more than there are plants growing on it. I think for bronze it could need a rosè-colored shine on it. Not sure what it is though, maybe I'll draw some patterns on it, it's a fantasy world after all
>The water towards the top looks quite fast, but relatively still at the bottom of the image. It may be because it's unfinished though.
Ah yeah, the water hitting the bottom is what I try to figure out currently, It would create a lot of tension on the surface but I don't want to draw too much attention into the shadowy zones. A bit of bad planning right there
>One thing you could add is maybe a branch/vine or something to connect the foreground to the rest of the image a bit more.
Definitely wanted to try this, too. I threw in the foliage in the foreground to work with that later and block out areas that don't need exessive rendering but I will connect some of them to the middleground for sure

>>3904846
Glad to hear that anon, even though I think I still haven't touched my potential yet. And thanks!

>Do you have any tips ?
Definitely perspective, which I still lack desu. Also, study environments, my go to practice is taking two environment refs (or three when you're ambitious) and combining their traits in one image. Or make different environment sketches from them. This time to study them while also doing imaginative work.
Also, build an environment folder. I would share a link to mine but I'm not sure how linking Dropbox is treated here.

>>3904890
>*This way you study them

I can't type

Painted a local church

>>3903257 there you go goys

>>3903859
Don't be harsh on yourself, keeping a clear mind is essential to maintain focus required to identify said mistakes and make progress. I think you don't need me to tell you that you re doing great already.

Have to let this go or I'll lose my mind. Not a hundred percent about some things but it was good practice

How do I learn to draw eyes? They're hard, I think I understand that they're spheres and that the iris and stuff is like a satellite or whatever but it's still really hard to do waaaa

>>3904933
Change the way you draw faces bitch Jesus fucking Christ

>>3904141
>>3903823
cool, fixed the neck and the scarf and now im working on the colors
still have no idea what to do with the background but i guess ill get there

>>3904993
Leave the basement and come to grips the world isn't filled with living neonatal moeblobs.

Painted this at the park today. Had a nice conversation too

Sketched this: Thoughts?

gave up on the last attempt so tried digital.

Centaur shit? Idk

>>3904979
practice lots of eyes from pics you like
Don't worry about the result, only about understanding what you're doing, observing, not going into autopilot, and doing many many many.
This applies to anything you wanna learn really. Don't be too harsh on yourself but try to practise as much as you can every day.
I'd advise against posting questions like that naively hoping someone will reply with some super secret to drawing eyes. Every "how do i" can be solved by yourself by researching and practising everyday, especially with the insane amount of tutorials and pics and info you can pull up instantly from the internet

cats

>>3904951
nice. The bike guy's right arm pose looks a bit unnatural but it's an awesome piece overall. Did you use refs for anything in particular or did you sketch it by photobashing first or how did you start? I'm really interested to know how to go about making something like this

>>3905110
My workflow is pretty abysmal, I just splash blocks of paint until it looks like something useful and start thinking about perspective and lighting alignment etc much later. I didn't really have the ambition for a complex scene but these days I try to be patient and refine things as much as I can. This has been laying around for several months but wasn't worked on for long stretches... I didn't keep track but I'd be surprised if I spent less than 75-100 hours, a lot of weekends and lazy workdays went by.

I did everything by hand as I prefer that look, but Paintstorm has a good perspective tool that lets you move vantage points into a neighboring country, which is necessarily for that long focal length look. It only works for two axes so the rest have to be done by hand. Artstudio has a better brush engine for details so I moved back and forth a lot between the two apps. Reference was only really needed for the window glass, water ripples, some scooter ideas and how to paint wet pants. Oh, and the bent sign pole was lifted from my own neighborhood. There used to be a lamp on there.

>>3905177
Thank you for the detailed insight! Very inspiring

A thing I've been working on and feeling stuck. Maybe because it's done, but I don't love it. Any advice or critique?

>>3905065
smoothed some of the brushstrokes with my finger

Homework
Wip

>>3905108
I think you should stick to /beg/ for a little more. Not quite there yet, get some mileage anon

crit?

>>3905702
Fuck thats amazing

>>3905702
Really cool. As a nitpick, how does the bird fly when the rider is seated like that tho?

>>3904645
Real nice. Slightly froggy face but you were going for that, and the features look a little like they've been slid around the skull to be
lopsided- maybe because of the big cranium, kinda looks like the back of the head is in profile

>>3905706
Stiff pose, chickenscratch lines, bad use of lineweight
Go fill some more sketchbooks and you'll be grand.

>>3905204
kinda hard to tell the foreground and background apart.

>>3905725
It runs

>>3904180
>>3904463
>>3904938
Thank you guys
I get depressed about it sometimes...

>>3903257
Taking it slow with this one

>>3905850
holy fuck that's hot, give me that blog

>>3903695
cartoons > anime

>>3905048
If you want real life use a camera not a tablet

>>3906009
I don't really draw a lot of stuff like this, senpai

https://klinckfoster.tumblr.com
https://www.instagram.com/klinck_foster/
https://twitter.com/ArtKlinck

>>3906010
Die

>>3906052
But... but why

Been experimenting with Glitch Art lately.

>>3906058
And here’s the original drawing for reference

>>3905942
I’m digging the 1-pixel brush look, anon. I think that you just gotta make sure to choose the right color palette to make it work, but what you got so far looks great

>>3906058
>>>>>>GLITCH ART
You mean filters, you at least drew the thing, right?

Hey can somebody help me with that, I try to do her mask but I'm a bit stuck with the horns

>>3906104
Lol, yes.

tried a new brush in procreate, what do u guys think would be a nice weapon for this here sir?

>>3906144
You shouldn't push the philtrum outward, as if she is pouting, when she is making a smile.

>>3906207
Shillelagh

some color experiments...

10 minute sketch.

Made an over-paint for a drawing from three years ago

>>3904117
Do you have a reference for this? Cause I can spot a couple of mistakes but I don't know if some of it might be correct copying or not. Definitely the left cheekbone and/or the whole left side of the face seems too far to the left )speaking from our perspective). But worst of all is the nose, it looks like its crooked to the left, and the bridge (the front where the light hits) is way too thin especially where it comes to the point. All this makes it look like her face is not symmetrical even though her face is turned away. But overall it looks nice, I like the feeling and the atmosphere of it. You've done a nice job of the flower and her lips. I think you could erase some of the light tones and highlights more which would create more contrast and make the dark tones look darker, but it depends on whether she's in a shadow which it looks like here. Overall most of your focus should be on proportion and perspective.

For graphite drawing try using a 6-8B, keep the point very sharp, and put a lot of layers on and avoid pressing on the paper. <ayne try out cretacolor nero pencils for darker tones, or if you know how to control charcoal, use charcoal pencils, pierre noire or carbone (all from conte a paris)

every time i work on something that's 70-80% done i flake out and never finish it. how do i complete my drawings without making them look like overly rendered garbage? also any critique in general

please help :((

>>3906057
Crab

>>3906545

I like to doodle female bodies when I can't think of anything better to draw

made this oil painting portrait

>>3906534

Actually what I did was foreshorten the shadow above the left eye, and I didn't include the midtones of the nose which made it look crooked. I looked at the reference photo with it open side by side.

Thank you for the advice and compliment. I appreciate it.

>>3905942

>>3906065
thanks! the mood is kinda like a dusty highway and a pink sunset

>>3906590
do you use hitokaku?

>>3906579
I think it’s looks cool

>>3906636
I just had to look that up, is it a construction method? i learned the skeleton from loomis, but i kinda just do whatever shape seems most fitting

Still working on this, bit by bit.

>>3903257

>>3906685
The way you draw your torso reminds me of the hitokaku method

>>3906793
my anatomy sucks... but the background seems too dark to me

sorry for the sloppy overpaint

>>3907556
Put it on black an white, and yeh, her head it's kinda blending with the bg

>>3907539
You fucked it, it was going so well...

>>3907556
Shoes are too pointy, you've missed out the mass of the foot at the front. I like the sphere tho, your art could do with more of its hard edges. Expression is incredibly soulless but i guess if you're a ruanfag that's half the game

>>3907539
That would probably feel so good to put dick in

Decided to have some fun with that Instagram Chimpanzee story and realized two things...

“Damn, I fucked up the arm.”

“FUCKIN’ FUR, HOW DO YOU RENDER?l

Thoughts on this style?

hmm...

>>3906590
upped the resolution

>>3908120
super cute

Trying concept design, big bois, still WIP.

>>3907910
>>3906793
ahahahahaha

>>3904777
looks great anon the only critque I have is I am having a problem with what scale everything is

>>3907676
Define "soulless". Because I feel like you're regurgitating memes that this board is completely oversaturated with.

>>3908170
what's so funny, boy?

>>3908165
>http://www.animatorisland.com/51-great-animation-exercises-to-master/
You need to delineate between materials more. Is the military mount wearing cloth or hard materials on its head? Why would it need hard armor if it appears to be made of scales? And if that is head armor then the beast can no longer move its head. Something more interesting than generic armored beast would be swaddling a mount in cloth, because if you're covered in scales then the next damage you need to resist is blunt trauma, not sharp weapons

>>3908240
Are you the artist?
The expression is soulless not in the soul/soulless ic debate but in a "there is nothing behind that bitch's eyes its like a dementor sucked her off and now she's just a husk"
her expression should have some asymmetry to it, at the very least her head should be tilted up or down to convey superiority/aggression.

Comic Style Delivery w/ Complex Background

https://twitter.com/MrMcFlintcock/status/1122152545936445440

Render Delivery

https://twitter.com/MrMcFlintcock/status/1122153187832729601

>>3908480
>>3908488
Yikes anon, i think you focus on rendering too much and forget about stuff like construction and taste... they both look souless and on the uncanny side, the more i look at it the more flaws i notice.
Nothing wrong with doing bad stuff tho, you just need to practice your fundies more and focus less on rendering

>>3908282
Yeah.

I prefer to keep my expressions constrained to the eyebrows and the eyes. I think that's more subtle, and it serves my work just fine. I don't do pinups where expression is spoonfed to the viewer. There's nothing to ponder there.

>>3908578
Not the anon you're replying to but, good on you dude, I agree with that logic

I guess it's finished now.

Not really happy with how it turned out. Just looks super boring and generic to me, light-wise.

>>3908602
Nah dude, the atmosphere of this is actually pretty good. I like it, personally. I feel like the people on this board shit talked you so much you’ve lost some of your love for it

>>3908602
whats boring and generic is the stiff pose and the perspective you chose.

>>3908602
I think you should crop it.

>>3904935
This is really cool, I love the design and detail. You got a blog?
>>3905102
I like how loose your figures look.
>>3905204
You could add some darker values but it looks nice to me.
>>3906533
Nice improvement. Liking the soft colors and how you drew her eyes.
>>3908488
There's so much red in this piece, it makes her look like she's got that skin condition where her face is red idk what it's called. Maybe try giving her some pink or dark mauve blush and eyeshadow? Or changing her hair color? It's just very red and pink. Even inside her eyes it's red, most eyes are just off white-ish but her eyes look like she's high. Is she high?
>>3908602
I like how you painted this. I like the facial expression, too.

>>3908602
Your values are too close together. There are no noticeably dark shadows where there could be to add interest, atmosphere and contrast. This piece could be very cool if you added more soft shadows to pull off a chiaroscuro effect.

For example you could make the background, especially around the character's head, much darker to really create a sense of luminosity on the on his face. Perhaps leave only a 3rd of his body directly in the light while the rest recedes into shadow or just occasionally catches light.

Other posters have speculated that you're going for a Ruan Jia look. Kind of looks like it, so learn from how he uses light and shadows:

Dose ic consider this art

Have a weird gig coming up. This lady is paying me to draw caricatures at a party she's throwing. Never drawn one before, this is my first try. How fucked am I?

>>3907233
y do i like my drawings more upside down

>>3908745
I like it

>>3908745
It doesn't really come across as a caricature because you didn't emphasize identifying features. It just looks like you did a portrait but accidentally made the face too small.

>>3908754
probably because its a fresh view. I like the chin and the soft cheek that pulls from the nose a lot.

>>3908763
muh mspaint tho.

>>3908760
Yeah that's what I predicted would happen when I started. I've always drawn realistically and have no idea about exaggeration, especially exaggeration based on a realistic reference. Gonna watch me the proko series on caricatures and hope to jesus it's good.

Better?

>>3908648
Better?

tank design, and yes I know the turret opening up is retarded

>>3903257

>>3908823
You need to study from life because all your faces are overly constructed and plastic. Making them look like a ventriloquist dummy.

>>3908651
Kinda like... This? Or am I just completely failing to understand what you mean?

>>3908651
thats only a few of the problems these dorks have
>>3908941
>>3907910
they both think these asian artists use one method/brush of rendering when in fact if you ever looked at their processes and tut images, they use a plethora, the MAIN problem both of them have is that they DONT use a soft brush like RJ or guang do, you will never get a soft stroke with a textured brush, or a hard edge not matter how many times you try to soften it up by repeating strokes,but you could maybe with something inbetween thats why RJ sometimes uses a sponge with a fairly soft edge. either way lighting is completely off, colors are random and dull, no control of contrast for light or color, its just a very very dull image to look at, especially with the ugly edges.

>>3907880
it works if you're doing thumbnails for something before moving forward with it I wouldn't consider it for anything more than that

>>3908120
look up some mechanical references or machine joints and figure out how to simplify them, what you have now is too basic mainly speaking about the left (as viewed) girls arm

>>3908944
I can, and have painted with just the round brush supported by the soft round. I'm very comfortable with it. But guess what? I don't care for it. I don't give a shit what RJ does in this particular instance. I'm doing what I like, because it literally does not fucking matter what brush anyone uses.

I've seen RJ paint. I know what his process is. So don't bullshit me with this "RJ rarely uses a soft textured brush" nonsense. You don't have a clue what you're talking about or who you're peddling it to.

>>3908941
dude no, you have no concept of what ambient light is, all youre doing with every single painting you make is that you have this linear projection of light coming from one side and rendering it that way for the entire model.

like nigga look at your painting, you literally have light going from light to dark:left to right, that kind of linear flow of light is only apparent if its very soft light like ambient in which case this is not what youre trying to illustrate here, youre going for that cast shadow light that does the complete opposite of ambient, it makes the darker part of light going in the middle aka the so called terminator shadow which is what most chinese abuse because its simple lighting. accompanied by soft ambient light. the reason those kind of cast shadows are so good is because it balances the lighting out since its not linear, it makes the light on one side lighter BASED on the reflections of ambient light, so it will never be lighter than the side thats lit. if youu look at >>3908651 theres not a single spot on that image that has a dark outer edge of that figure because the light is not linear like yours, its brimming with soft light and you can see terminator shadows everywhere, and if youre going for just ambient light, then you dont ADD a spot light, so no cast shadows would be present but there will still be a falloff so light can still define volume, aka ambient occlusion which is a fancy word for shadows so dont over think that word like most people do it just means you need to account for how soft those shadows are and where they happen because they can be incredibly soft.
>>3908954
>I'm doing what I like, because it literally does not fucking matter what brush anyone uses.
then your work is going to suffer because you neglect to do basic rendering.
>
I've seen RJ paint. I know what his process is
NO YOU FUCKING DONT.

>>3908954
I'vE SeEn rJ PaInt. i KnOW WhAT hIS proCesS Is

>>3908952
yeah I agree, I am planning to redraw it from some robo arm off google

still life practice

>>3908963
Alright, let's break this down as simple as it can get.

This illustrates the kind of lighting I aim for in most of my paintings. Pretty basic, but I fail to see what's wrong with it.

Second, as you can see, I've rendered a sphere with my favorite chalk brush and then again with a clip mask and a soft round. Which one you like better is totally subjective. But I'm waiting for you to explain why they're both demonstrably bad for some reason or another.

As you can see, my focus is on form, and directional light. Why? Because I'm starting simple in learning form and light. It makes no sense for me to tackle ambient lit subjects when I haven't mastered single-point lighting yet. Gotta walk before you can run. But further more, I'd like to know what's wrong with staying simple?

>>3908995
Forgot to attach image.

love craft doodle I did I forget it's name Ny*****thotep?

>>3908995
because this is not what simple light looks like. you are combining two different light methods into one and calling it simple. thats just wrong. you have a fucking CAST SHADOW. simple light is a simple cast shadow, which a simple cast shadow consists of 4 fucking elements, a light side, a dark side, a cast shadow and reflected light and as a consequence of this reflected light(which u dont have in your pic related btw) makes a terminator shadow which you see in my pic related the terminator shadow is the darkest part now, and the reflected light is the shadow of the ball. that is simple lighting. the other lighting set up is far easier tho, its not casting shadows its basically overcast lighting, so its all soft shadows because the subject is mostly lit by ambient light.

>>3908860
sweet!

>>3908823
I can see where you went with the alterations and it is easier on the eyes, but I'm concerned about the "pop" you wanted- if you wanted one. The red has a vibrant effect that jumps out and the revision is nicely subdued, adding almost a mischievous naughty smile. If that's what you were going for then great. Looking at them both side by side the color shift sends two different messages. Art is crazy.

How much should I be charging for commissions like this?

>>3908944
>>3908963
>>3908967
>>3909003
retard relax

>>3908995
nobody can give you wiser advice than yourself

>>3909092
>nobody can give you wiser advice than yourself
thats called narcissism and not its not good advice fuck off faggot

>>3909123
thats called Cicero you fucking morron

>>3908952
here's what i did

>>3909153
shut the fuck up with your dumbass mouth, bitch.

>>3909165
cute

>>3909003
You do realize that the spheres I was rendering have a very rough surface, right? Which makes the light and shadow transitions very soft.

Your egg example has gloss on it, which makes the shadow transitions a bit more firm. The gloss also means that it will pick up reflections more distinctly. So the reflected light in the shadow is sharper and more visible. That's not what reflected light would look like on a matte material sphere.

Do my paintings have issues? Yeah. But man, talk to me like a person. Being a condescending dickbag just means I have to filter through a lot of your tedious bullshit to get any insight from you.

>>3909197
now your dumbass is going to tell me this sphere is too glossy because it still receives reflected light, dude shut the fuck up on subjects you are literally garbage at. stop fucking pretending like you know what youre talking about and acknowledged about it. its like you have no concept of ambient and reflected light, no wonder your shit always look dead and dull as fuck, because you dont know the basics of light.

>>3909197
eat shit

>>3909226
I do understand how light works, I've studied it and observed it you blithering moron.

>>3909238
you know how i know thats bullshit?>>3908941
>>3908602
these dogshit paintings.

>>3909238
>>3909228
Both shitters. You couldn't art your way out of a wet paper bag.
Can't believe it.

some gay shit

>>3909239
Yet you can't intelligently articulate why they're shit. I mean, I agree with you. I'm harder on myself than you could ever be. But you telling me that I don't understand the principle of rendering light on a sphere because I struggle with shading a clothed figure with varying materials in perspective? Clearly I understand light applied to basic forms, it's applying it to complex forms with color that I struggle with. You'd understand that if you weren't intellectually dishonest.

Further more, I demonstrated my understanding of light with a 5-minute sketch from memory. You demonstrated your knowledge of light with photographs that connote the principles, calling your skill into question.

>>3909292
Why are you retards brawling? Why are neither of you drawing?

>>3909298
This. You guys are like broken records at this point. Just walk away and draw you autists.
>you dumb
>explain why
>explains
>I understand that topic. I wasn't going for that.
>no you don't. You dumb.
Rinse and repeat.

How can I fix this?

What do you think of this?

>>3908745
It's better to focus on what makes the person them, try to imagine how would you explain this person to a police sketcher and exaggerate on their features. It helps to emphasize on curves like smiles, chins or ears, wrinkles and eyes.
>>3908602
>>3908941
>>3908995
I'd say that it's also about the colors you're using, take a look at their pieces and you'll see lots of variations within the same range, while you seem to opt for a more conservative approach and it looks like you used the color layer on top of a value picture. Try painting with color directly, and observe carefully the light hues that they use to contrast their edges and give some form with ambient light.
>>3909079
what you're comfortable with
>>3909321
fix in what way?

>>3909079
Think about how much time it took you.
I'd say somewhere between 5$ and 15$

>>3903257
Quick portrait

>>3909387
Please practice some proportions, it will help you immensely.

>>3909431
Thanks anon, tho that face doesn't look like the char that my face is based off and it seems all i had to do was move the ear forward and lengthen the nose bridge.

>>3909431
Quick redux, thanks for the reminder :3

Hi! I want to make a colourful painting where a T-rex is about to eat a person's head. But I'm not sure about composition and would love some help.
Also don't mind art quality too much right now. I'll fix things that needs fixing when I know which one to continue with.

Here's the first

>>3909544
And here's the second.

>>3909545
I'm also considering doing something more like this to get the symmetry. But I'm not sure if it looks too wonky, since the T-rex is not very sexy from this angle

>>3909482
The length of the nose is still too short, and the curve looks way too childish for someone of his age, for more adult noses, you can make a straight line or even a bumping it a bit outward..

>>3909482
anon, what is that neck and adam's apple???

>>3909482
Remember that all hair starts from within the hair line and goes outwards from it. Unless you have some kind of condition it's not possible for hair to start right above the eyebrows

Currently I'm trying to figure out how to into a Spider-alien, and how the legs would connect to a single pelvis, with the alien still having an ass.

>>3909842
>/beg/s trying to make up new anatomy without even learning human and the animal of choice anatomy
Why?

>>3909842
Don't, just do not worry about anatomy at your stage, it will only be a hindrance to you at this stage.
I implore you, to simply focus on the overall construction, and making it look three dimensional, and not worrying so far if the anatomy makes sense or not.

>>3909844
Spiders are entirely different to humans, Anon. I have to change human anatomy to look like Spider-like.

>>3909846
I figure I gotta know that in order to make it look good in 3D.
I tried to start with just having the human figure without legs, and trying to add legs onto that but it didn't look right.

>>3909321
Stop drawing pedo stuff

A copic style rendering study I did

>>3909842

Two sets of butt cheeks, double the ass, double the power

>>3909865

>>3909842
From the back I feel like the back set of legs should be positioned differently, because they'd have to be so the front legs fit onto the body properly, but I can't seem to get it looking right.
Would the ass even look like this if there were four legs?

>>3905048
>thinking the dude is hating on it because it isn't anime
poor hardstones got too blinded by his art
something's way off with your female's faces. Your monotone stuff like this one
>>3904771 is alright and the faces aren't too bad yet at this phase, but it all gets worse when you add your colors in.

>>3909963
>>3909842
First study forms and representing 3d objects
Then study anatomy, no need to get medical, just get the bones down and the major muscles/ligaments
Then study spider and insect anatomy, this should be easy since there's more room for error

>>3910016
I'm not looking to make it insectoid.
I'm looking to make it human that looks spiderlike.
The problem is that I can't figure how you could split human anatomy and bone structure to accommodate the sort of legs I'm trying to put in.

>>3905702
>>3905713
Thanks
>>3905725
Yea like the other dude said, it runs like an ostrich or a cassowary.

>>3909377
fix the Anatomy, like this one, how do I fix the anatomy?

her ribcage/shoulders feel a bit off but I can't tell what it is, made them a bit smaller which felt better but still

>>3909842
>>3910018
So you desire to create an abomination like this?

Advice appreciated

>>3910133
Not exactly. Something like so, although the arms on what you posted are pretty much how I'd do mine. I drew a basic idea but I don't think the ass would work?

>>3910134
I have no idea what I'm looking at, other than a cylinder.

>>3910153
its a bottleneck for guitar

>>3910157
Then I can only tell you to practice cylinders and ellipses in perspective.

>>3910163
ok, thanks

>>3908754
rip

>>3908763
i guess

>>3909569
>>3909620
>>3909659
Thank you anons, I have made yet another attempt. However his nose is supposed to be curved upwards tho i have toned it down

>>3910126
also is it just me or is her head way too long

tell me /ic/ am i gonna make it?

>>3910140
Okay, how about this.
With the rear legs pointing backwards, the end needs to be wide enough to not make her butt look like it is in a constant squash.

>>3910332
c-can you fuck it?

>>3910301
make me cum yep

>>3910332
hot

>>3910332
That's... pretty excellent, Anon. Thankyou!
That is very helpful to how I can make it work. Is it not possible to have her centered in the middle of her legs or does that make the ass go weird with the squish as you were saying?
I don't know if it's helpful to you, but I was trying to make the legs move and function as in this video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpEzXgbDdvk
So the legs can have a lot of space and functoning anatomy.

>>3910350
Like so, how would this make the ass or general anatomy of the underside look?
If it fucks it up then that's unfortunate.

>>3910334

>>3903257
painted a still life

>>3910350
>>3910357
You can always make it work as long as you're creative enough.
The video you showed just have a human body inserted into a sphere with a hole.

>>3910430
ugly

>>3910430
actually cool!

except for the the tounge being really hard to read, it looks like she has big lips

Give me your worst /ic/

>>3910451
/beg/ and please put more than five minutes into something if you want actual feedback theres nothing to critique here other than your shit formatting

portflio piece perhaps

>>3910460
confused on where his right arm is? doesn't look like it could be reaching at that angle, especially if the spiked bit is a shoulder-piece.

>>3910476
yeah I didn't exactly think through the placement of the right arm. Would something like this make sense?

>>3910113
give up.

>>3908120

>>3908860
>those big ass fuel tanks that come above the back of the front plate

you know better than this m8

>>3910722
This is pretty off topic but that's not necessarily a bad design.

There were tanks that had fuel tanks on the side even. It's not as foolish as it sounds. Fuels are combustible but they aren't very explosive. Even if they're hit they aren't super likely to catch fire and even then aren't likely to actually effect the tank.

>>3910332
>>3910372
I'm getting there, Anon. Huge thanks for your help.

Can I get some brutal feedback please?

This thread is so beginner tier it's not funny

>>3910920
Post your work

posting here as no one is saying anything on the other post.
Picture is of mainly four figures (fifth has back to us.)
Main figure is tied to bedding and legs are closer to 'us. (green lines) She has her head turned away from the left figure.
Picture is rough perspective design that at this stage can be easily changed and moved around still.
Feedback welcome but plz give more detail than just 'perspective is off' etc...WHY is it off or why is something wrong etc. We can't learn or improve unless mistakes are explained with solutions.

>>3910920
Which ones would you consider non-beg?

>>3910991
>being this petty
he's right most are beg tier (me included). Do you want him to tell you yours isn't or something?

>>3910920
How do I know if I should post in here or in /beg/?

>>3910920
stfu and draw

What's the deal with Hardstones McFlintcock? What's the point of coming here if you're not gonna heed anyone's advice?

drawing in class, dont mind the fucked up face, i drew it first. (justballpointthings)

>>3910900
first keep your lines light and loose when sketching, focusing on gestures but not forgetting proportions, lead the eye through the figure, only use your darkest values where you want the viewer to focus,mainly at crosslines, the rest should stay p loose.
also work on your draftsman ship, its good for discipline, being experimental,loose and messy is all good but it can become a bad habit especially when making finished looking works.

some figure sketching from imagination.

>>3911127
Advice!?
What's the point of coming here if we all die?
Your time is running out.
You're dying!

>>3911329
remember, its not about the destination, its about the journey. and this place is a p shit journey

Did some refinements as one suggested here. Hopefully the intention is a bit clearer now. Tried to make the figures flow less stiffly this time.

tried out watercolor, they fade a lot and turn a bit brighter

>>3911339
I think working with the current Get rid of all the tits and hair and redraw it, drawing through the forms. From there add the details back. Cunnilingus Cathy's tit is really weird with the nipple/cone point happening way too high. Spinal lines are too curved in many instances. The headboard looks like a torso with tits (unless it's a giant wall painting behind the bed?) Is the bed on the ground?

A couple of the figures need to be completely redrawn but others can just be modified.

>>3911375
Get rid of the hiar?!!....NEVERRRR!!!

Srsly though thanks for the feedback..the headboard is part mural part statue thing

>>3911310
Thank you very much Greps :) I’ve written this down so I can reflect on it next time. Hope to hear more feedback from ya soon!

>>3911339
Updated
I changed the gummy leg on the upper left figure. Fixed up the tiddies on the figures a bit and tweaked the spine on the upper right pigtailed one.

>>3911390
no prob my dude, keep up the hustle.
also watch Glenn Vilppu or Steve Huston or any other pro figure drawings, like line drawings and take a mental note of where they put their darkest value lines, you should be able to form a pattern and figure it out.

Would like some composition critique and overall comments. Thrall's hand is gonna call down a lighting storm eventually, hence the blue lighting effects, but I don't want it to overpower the piece. Not satisfied with the hand and arm shapes but I'm not sure how to solve it, if you have a redline I'll take it. The water waves felt too far away at first so I'm starting to create a mores gradual wave generation, hence the dark values around the edges. Fire away!

>>3910920
post your work cunt

>>3910460
Shaky lines are not a huge turnon, but I love the style and colors! The temperature shift on the cloak is excellent, perhaps push that effect a bit more?

>>3911245
I dig the hand

>>3909377
I think you've had this explained but there's a lot more issues going on than specific value and saturation picks that are supposed to emulate your hero. Stop using texture brushes for one, and develop your 3d shapes more before going nitty gritty with the rendering. I don't think your vision is sensitive enough of value variance, looking at issues like the face, belt and lower legs, just keep practicing and it'll stick.

Also not feeling this. Can I make it work?

>>3911335

>its not about the destination
leftist fairy tale


It's all about the destination!
You're a nobody until you become a somebody
Get what you want, or die trying

>>3911493
>>3911500
your values are very anemic, you may have something wrong with your monitor but, overall you need to practice lighting and breaking things down into planes to more effectively light them.

you also need to simplify in areas that are less important to the image, e.g. the waves in thrall and either the ground or sky in the space one.

also, your sense of scale is off in the second one - the dude looks enormous. this has to do with perspective errors as well as lighting and values, but the main issue is there is a lack of figure-ground relationship, as we don't know how the astronaut or ship is placed in context to the "ground plane", this confuses the viewer.

hope this helped.

>>3911523

I am not opposed to your critique but the low contrast is entirely deliberate. I don't like the look of saturated pieces and don't make paintings for lousy monitors or phone screens. With that said, I concede that I may have to manage my values...I'm aware of the scale issue in the second piece, but I'm going for a long focal length look as if the camera was zoomed in, a view which is easy to disturb. Would you suggest I move the vehicle further into the painting?

>>3911523
Thanks for your time, by the way!

>>3911493
Cool colours and texture, decent form but stiff pose. Doesn't look very creative and cavalier, nor fluid or dynamic but a very promising foundation to start having fun with it n loosen up, take risks, let your personality speak

>>3911508
Yours and everyone else's destination is the grave. Enjoy the journey, even if it leads to mediocrity.

>>3911493
Thrall looks like a fat constipated neckbeard looking at furry porn wearing a baby's bonnet
Make him handsome with a more /fit/ body

>>3911548
Based

>>3911548
>destination is the grave
It is not a destination

Death is the possibility of the impossibility of any existence at all

does anyone know how to render like Bernie Wrightson? That is my goal

>>3911597
This was my reference

>>3908944

>use a soft brush like RJ or guang do

Done: >>3911493 >>3911500

>>3911602
Soft brush is useful for large adjustments and at small sizes it can do wonders like you wouldn't believe. Dude is wrong about all those assumptions

>>3905065
>>3905308
hairs kinda shoddy but i like it

>>3904004
>>3904001
these are amazing

>>3911609

>it can do wonders
yea, if you're a pro-level, like rj

>>3911635
Rj is a cunt. You don't wanna be a cunt, do you?

>>3911542
i tried to fix some of the scale issue, but you can do it with either the astro or the spaceship, you just have to decide which one is more important as both are getting similar attention right now and it's killing the flow

idk man you just have to make it look good. trying to fix the image with your preferences in mind made it feel like i was stepping on eggshells every time i tried to make it better, it's gonna be a hard journey if every painting will be such a limited value key, and i would get bored after a while personally

next pieces you do, try to do graphic no-tan thumbnails to figure out a solid composition and stick to it exactly, see how you like it

>>3911702
hope this helped at least a bit, i'm a little retarded and didn't pull out my tablet to help

Pen and ink and ink wash on arches watercolor paper 22x30
Still a WIP

help

The knees are too high, the calf should be shorter then the thigh

>>3911702
Wow, I really like the effect you created here compositionally. I would probably prefer to enlarge the spacecraft but maybe this will work better. I also thought of another thing to create more space : make the clouds more diffuse. But this works so much better with the original intention to make the ground a strong compositional actor against the rest of the piece.

PS: Stepping on eggshells describes my journey with this very well

Thanks again for your efforts, I knew it'd be worth it to post here.

>>3911752
Rotate right

>>3911718
Nobody cares about your black washes, but it's good

>>3911597
Long way to go, just keep at it

>>3911409
This is so messy I don't know where to begin, maybe come back with the clean line art

>>3911359
Too much water, and put your paintings at eye height ya dummy

>>3910900

You need years of practice before you should even start asking for advice

>>3910670
The composition is fantastic but the perspective is shit. Also, don't shade your subjects so much

>>3910430
Pancake anatomy, stop turd polishing and actually develop your shapes. Shaded areas like her hair need more temperature shift, catch my drift? Lower body needs a lot of TLC to work

>>3911787
i'm glad you found it helpful, and yeah just play around with it. shrink it to about 3 inches wide or so and just move stuff around and adjust it.

clouds being less defined work work well, too, that planet seems pretty far away so it would make sense. just make sure you're really giving the ground some character to its' form and structure, it deserves some love

no problem man, good luck

>>3903257
Trying to learn how to emulate manga for the webcomic I'm making. This was my first attempt at a large picture with multiple characters, kinda hit a "not sure what to do next to make this look better" wall. Still turned out better than I expected though. Thoughts?

>>3911792
>perspective is shit
I agree with that, its all free handed, specially the bridge bars behind them are bad
>don't shade your subjects so much
I don't really feel i over did it desu

>>3911875
CUTE!
Great job anon its lovely

/beg/ says I don't belong there. I disagree but well ... maybe this thread works.

>>3911961
WHAT IS WRONG WITH HER HIPS???

>>3912114
Its cute!
Erease the guy though, whats the point of drawing males

>>3903257
Trying out a beast-master/mercenary girl

>>3912114
I particularly like the composition. Also their faces and expressions. Something about her leg bugs me though. Like maybe it should be more parallel to the step it's sitting on? And a bit of her other leg should be visible too.
Anyway you're not /beg/, don't worry. Keep it up!

>>3912114
Your proportions and lines and clothing are good, though I does make the things like the scissor, rope and ladder stand out, because they're not up to par.
I think the biggest problem here is that you drew everything in perfect side view, making the overall image rather flat. If you could add one point perspective to this scene, so that would would get to see more than one side of the forms, it would help create a lot more of depth.

>>3911954
Thank you very much!

im copying Mignola

>>3906059
Bloggu?

done with this!

>>3912937
it looks really, really nice anon!

tried again

>>3907236
I quite upgraded the sheet I was working on and it's probably the first thing I really worked hard on, but the shading looks very off to me for some concept art sketches. Any advice on how I could shade to give it a professional look? Any game concept artbook to recommend?

First time doing digital
Hows this shit work

Is this thread even alive

>>3910430
Really nice face and colors this time around.

>>3890525
thread is at five posts till bump limit so I guess use that thread for now