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> you're NEET
> you do drugs/take medication
> you don't draw anything from life
> you set shallow goals
> you have no goal in life
> you play videogames for more than an hour a day
> you value realism over aesthetics
> you value aesthetics over meaning
> you can only follow a process that you were taught
> you follow youtube art teachers
> you create art using fundamentals you haven't intently studied
> you watch porn on a regular basis
> you need somebody to tell you how to learn
> you spend more time consuming content than creating it
> you draw porn
> you can't view the nude body in a non-sexual way
> you think grinding is a substitute for learning
> you grind fundamentals without applying them
> you draw without thinking/intent
> you draw for attention
> you draw for followers
> you follow an ideology
> you think art can replace a personality
> you think natural talent is more important than hard work
> you haven't been in an intimate relationship before
> you think your style isn't a crutch
> you draw just to be a part of art communities
> you can't draw without background noise
> you feel you need to force yourself to draw
> you can't spend time thinking without stimulation/distraction
> your subject matters haven't changed since highschool
> you only draw digitally
> you only use one medium
> you think buying expensive tools will improve your art
> you think buying [product] will improve your art
> you can't identify obvious flaws in your art
> you study anime
> you don't go outside
> you need to follow a schedule to create art
> you have bad posture
> you take what people say on this board seriously
> you dont love art

>> No.3907422

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>> No.3907423

>>3907421
>you study anime
Based, that animay study general has got to go.

>> No.3907424

>>3907423
yeah have you seen the quality of work being posted there?

>> No.3907428

>you're a woman
>have no personality
Those are big ones, the latter I see a lot.

>> No.3907439
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>>3907421
Good thing I'm a nurse. Seems like I'm gonna make it. Suck it fags.

>> No.3907440

>>3907428
Women don't need or even want to make it

>>3907422
Nice cope fag

>> No.3907449
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3907449

>>3907422
Based and no-time-wastedPilled
Facts: if you make NGMI threads or bother arguing on one you're NGMI

>> No.3907452

>>3907421
> you frogpost

>> No.3907460
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>>3907421
>you spend more time consuming content than creating it
>you haven't been in an intimate relationship before
>you study anime
Only these 3. How bad is it, anons?

>> No.3907463

>>3907460
Just stop "studying" anime.

>> No.3907466

>>3907421
> you think your style isn't a crutch
Please explain

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>>3907463
But I can't do that, I love Inoue's art too much...
I think I'm not going to make it lads...
>>3907421
By the way OP what's up with
>you haven't been in an intimate relationship before
?

>> No.3907478

>>3907421
NGMI if you
>create threads on /ic/
>spend half an hour thinking about a meme list

>> No.3907480

>>3907478
He's still right, you know.

>> No.3907487

>>3907480
the two posts aren't mutually exclusive
cope

>> No.3907491

>>3907470
it's self evident unless you're some kind of transcendent monk/cowboy mode being a virgin stunts your mental growth and so your art

>> No.3907545

>>3907491
How the fuck does having sex enable mental growth?

>> No.3907551

>>3907545
it’s not so much that having sex enables mental growth, it’s more that being stuck a virgin with no life experience retards your growth. this is true for more than just art obviously.

>> No.3907555

the only ones that apply to me are drugs and bad posture. am I gonna make it?

>> No.3907566

>>3907551
I don't know, it seems like there are plenty of virgins out there who get on just fine.

I honestly think real virgins either don't exist, or are a vastly over-represented minority, because there is absolutely ZERO chance that you somehow make it through high school without SOMEBODY wanting to fuck you. But either way, if it was possible, I guess some of them might be so focused on that fact alone that they neglect other areas of their life to the point where they become resentful of humanity for not holding their hand and doing everything for them.

>> No.3907571

>>3907555
>DUDE
sorry bro, ngmi

>> No.3907572

what a huge effort just to get a couple replies to your thread

there are some god tier youtube channels too, like control mix paint

>> No.3907573

>>3907551
While I get where you're coming from, there are more things to experience in life than your sexuality, isn't it? Reading, traveling, sports, meeting new people, trying new things,...

>> No.3907755

>>3907421
>You draw from reference

>> No.3907757

>>3907421
add
>if you waste time making lists to judge other people instead of painting
pwy lmao

>> No.3907758

>>3907421
In my town we call this "shitting rules". It's when you take stupid rules out of your ass and expect people to give a fuck. Unfortunately it does get people's attention for being so absurd.

>> No.3907762

>>3907566
>because there is absolutely ZERO chance that you somehow make it through high school without SOMEBODY wanting to fuck you
Get a load of this naive normie

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>>3907421
Looks like I'm somehow GMI. Go me.

>> No.3907779

>you try to draw something from imagination
>you never studied what you're trying to draw
>you wonder why it looks like shit
>you have crippling frustration and self doubt
>you stop drawing for 6 months

the greatest trap

>> No.3907783

Holy shit you faggots are pathetic.

>> No.3907802

>>3907783
k

>> No.3907816

>>3907470
It's quite obvious that Inoue drew that pic by practicing real people, he didn't study anime so to get on his level don't copy him, just try to imagine how did he get there and do that.

>> No.3907819

>>3907421
Is this a list of things you hate about yourself OP?

>> No.3907826

>>3907816
Indeed anon, good advice. I draw real people but copy his work a lot too, I just thought that fell under the "anime" rule since it's manga.

>> No.3907844

>>3907421
you forgot to add not doing 3D

>> No.3907847

>>3907779
good post that made me reflect on my crisis from this afternoon

>> No.3907874

>>3907847
Everyone wants to jump to being super good at drawing from imagination. But the truth is that comes much later. The artists who are super good at drawing from imagination seem to draw from life just as much as they draw from imagination. The understanding you get from studying/drawing from observation then trying to redraw it from memory is what gives you the ability to draw well from imagination.

Look at James Gurney, he made an entire world from his imagination with Dinotopia and wrote THE book on Imaginative Realism, and yet he paints from life literally every single day because he uses what he learns from painting the real world in his fantasy work. If you want to be really good, the two skills (drawing from observation and imagination) are inseparable.

http://gurneyjourney.blogspot.com/2016/11/imaginative-drawingwith-and-without.html

>> No.3907882

>>3907421
wew in that case everyone is NGMI. Good talk OP.

>> No.3907884
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>>3907421
>pepeposter
yeah that's an epic fail

>> No.3907894

how the fuck does this thread have replies

>> No.3907895

>>3907894
By you replying. XDDDD

>> No.3907904

>>3907566
>there is absolutely ZERO chance that you somehow make it through high school without SOMEBODY wanting to fuck you
Virgin here, some people are actually retarded (me).
>be me
>at new years party
>girl who I used to fool around with is there
>we pass eachother alone in the hall
>"hey anon, i really regret not having sex with you"
>"thanks"

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>>3907904
>"thanks"

>> No.3907951

>>3907566
>there is absolutely ZERO chance that you somehow make it through high school without SOMEBODY wanting to fuck you.
Just because someone wants to fuck you doesn't mean it's gonna happen.

My senior year of HS, I had to move, so I ended up in a new school and a new state. This one girl at my old school was really into me, and I was into her. Everybody knew it, we knew it, it ended up kind of a running joke in our circles. Things just never ended up working out as most of the time we had other things to worry about or seeing other people. So while we wanted to get together things just never really matched up by the time I moved.
Sometime in the summer in between we kind of just decided to just go with it and do long distance. It was a bad idea of course, but we liked each other enough to go with it. It worked out for the most part.
Anyway, at the new school a ton of girls were really into me since I was the new kid and everybody's dated everybody at that point. Always turned them down since I was already in some type of relationship. I'm sure in hindsight I could have fucked a bunch of them, but I cared about the other girl.
Ended up saving enough money between the two of us over graduation and I took a flight back to where she lived. Things went well for the first week, then just immediately dropped off. Turns out she was cheating on me the whole time I was there. "Broke up" with me by changing her relationship status on facebook while I was on the plane, didn't even bother to tell me. Ended up really messing with me emotionally. I just never really bothered with girls again and decided to just focus on other things like school, art and music. I've had flings and shit with other girls, but any time I get close I end up panicking and dropping all contact, so I haven't gotten very far.

Anyway that's my blogpost.

>> No.3907974

>>3907551
>>3907951
>>3907904
Trust me if you think being alone sucks, being with another person is an entire new flavor of hell, it'll destroy your life. The truth is being alone sucks and being with someone sucks and that's the flat reality. It's common to have this secret fantasy that once you finally get this relationship you'll be "fixed" but it just doesn't happen. There's a large amount of psychology studies that prove that single people are just as happy as people in relationships and single people who accept they're going to be single are even happier then both, no joke.

As for the virgin thing, you'll realize how little it means when you lose it. It's literally nothing, i was the same as you guys and trust me, i know you wont listen, but it'll change nothing, absolutely nothing.

Besides, probably the best person I've ever known, this chick who was beautiful, a talented artist and a musician who plays sold out shows, was a virgin. You're not a failure or bad, and there's nothing wrong with you because you haven't put your meat stick in some other persons hole for a few minutes.

>> No.3907988

>>3907974
Oh it doesn't really bother me. I never really cared much about that sort of thing really in HS either. I just liked having the company and having someone to care about intimately, if that makes sense. I guess I just liked the feeling of being in a relationship with someone more than I cared about getting laid. For me it was about having someone I could connect with emotionally and mentally on a level that you can't have with friends or family. People who caught my eye were rare, which was why I found it to be kind of important if I was with someone. I wasn't about to just date everybody and anybody.

I don't really care about being involved with anyone nowadays though. Too much effort to go out of my way and open up to someone not to have that sort of thing reciprocated. What happened with >>3907951 really messed with me because it was someone that I actually loved on a deep level. They felt the same way about me, or at least I had thought. I'm over her and what happened now, but there's some residual stuff there that messes with me any time I find myself getting close to anyone. I'm not in any rush to get laid or anything, I'm fine focusing on my work and art and stuff, I have enough fulfillment in my life. If things happen great, if not no biggie. It's not some cloud hanging over my head.

>> No.3907991

>>3907974
>..was a virgin
How do you even know this, and if you were told, how do you know you weren't just being lied to?

>> No.3908006

>>3907991
I suppose strictly speaking i cannot truly know, but you choose to either trust your friends or not trust them and i trust her. That's how it is with everyone. Plus she definitely doesn't know what she's doing in that area from what I've seen.

It ain't such a crazy phenomenon, i go to art school so I've met a decent cross section of weird people. You'd be surprised how many beautiful, talented people are virgins for various reasons like they're shy/don't go out.

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3908014

So does anyone on this board actually draw for fun?

>> No.3908056

>>3907421
>NGMI if you believe this thread.

>> No.3909388

> you're NEET
> you do drugs/take medication
> you can't draw without background noise

These three. Though, to be fair, the medication is all just anti-convulsants and the seizures are so much worse off them (incidentally also why I'm NEET, not safe in a workplace.) And I've had this ear-worm since 1995 and I don't do anything without background noise, not even sleep.

> you value realism over aesthetics

Also this a little bit but I've been doing taxidermy recently and there isn't really room for aesthetics.

>> No.3909397

>>3908014
>Fun

Dont ever say that here. This board is basically /v/ with a pencil.

Im dead serious. If you are serious about progress and happiness, leave this place.

I myself am popping in after a week. And now i will disappear again.

>> No.3909398

>>3908014
Nobody even draws on this board.

>> No.3909399

>>3909397
I've found some neat tips here and admittedly the drama can be funny. I'm just a casual artist who indulges in some rubber-necking.

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>>3907421

>> No.3909412

>>3907421
>you create an autistic wall of text on a chinese stamp collecting imageboard

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>>3907466
It's referring to shit like
>No, I don't need to learn fundamentals, practice or improve, because what I'm drawing isn't wrong in any way, it's just my personal style

>> No.3909552

>>3907421
A lot of these are golden facts, but it hits crabs from this place too much to acknowledge that. (Go outside/watch & draw p0rn,etc)

>> No.3909554

>>3907421
>you're NEET
>you do drugs/take medication
anon, this is where life brings everyone if you last long enough. fighting it is irrational

>>3909397
>art is similar to video games, all is learned experience until you are adept
>not finding improvement and refining mechanical skill fun
>unable to separate the angst of others from yourself
"... the sage considers the belly and not the eye.
therefore, he discards that and takes the other."

>> No.3909557

>you can't draw without background noise
How do I fix this.

>> No.3909584

>>3909554
No, only the weak minds stay with drugs & only the lazels stay neet.
>>3909557
Shut down the TV, put your pc on sleep mode, put your smartphone far enough that you need to get up & walk to reach it,take an A4 white sheet of paper with à pencil & DRAW.

>> No.3909590

>>3907421
Based.

>> No.3909721

>>3909557
some would say to listen to background noise, we have the technology

>>3909584
to wade upstream has never been associated with cleverness
to wade upriver is foolish
where one begins is not their own
and all return to separate roots