/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

This thread wasn't here yesterday when I was SEETHING about something and now I can't remember whta it was
JESUS FUCK

No one gives a shit about my drawings reeeee

>>3905382

There was a point in time back in sophomore year where I was a really petty cunt. There was an art competition and I stole this girls bottle of antipsychotic meds (she was a diagnosed schizo from what I remember) during lunch out of her backpack and dug it really deep into the trash bin.

I had a really bad "you're all just competition to me" mentality cause hyper-competitiveness was common among the pre-STEM program. I mean, it worked out for me. I got into the university I wanted and I'm managing my classwork but I feel as if what did was slightly douchey.

Color theory sucks ass, also I feel suffocated that I can't start and finish a drawing it always looks like shit to me and I never have the "lightbulb" so I never think of a illustration to do so I can only sketch, like I know I'm good and I have the materials now but the ideas don't come you know?

I can't control a brush pen for the life of me and it is making me pretty frustrated. Otherwise, progress is slow, but at least its there.

Art is the only constant left in my life anymore. My whole life is a complete disaster cause of sickness and then major depression, so getting (you)s and compliments from my art feel extremely good right now.

I've been assigned to complete a large set of concepts to the highest polish of professional grade and deliver an innovative and brilliant result, the subject, direction and approach of which perfectly describe my personal blind spot. There's a time limit too, so I don't have the option to rectify this. I'm at a loss and struggling daily. Every day I think I've discovered a vital approach to the problem and change my method to encompass it, then realize how simplified a thought process it'd really been the next morning. Then I do it again.
I can see that these confused stops and starts are engendering improvement, but the gains are so incremental as to not significantly improve this impossible position.

>>3905468
Have a [you] my friend

Sorry, I just had to post the site's current tongue-in-cheek header.
Also >>3905472 here, I was purely doomsaying, s'pose I'll work it out as well as I can.

I'm having trouble commiting, and I'm worrying over my shoulder pivot, been days and I don't know if I'm doing it correctly. All i've been doing is lines and lines, I want more I don't want to worry about fucking up my progress later or the if of this progress.
I want to be someone, someone amazing, for my name to mean quality.

I'M SCARED OF DOING BARGUE PLATES BUT I NEED TO IF I WANT TO APPLY FOR A SCOLARSHIP AT AN ATELIER

FUCK

Fuck social media and its desire for memes, trends, and regular uploads.
It creates another uphill battle for beginners especially if their schedule is clocked.

i work full time now, have an almost hour long commute twice a day and have to struggle to pick my tablet pen up just to start drawing, im terrified that im losing my will to draw after years of determined grinding and i sleep during my long ass lunch because i only have like 5-6 real hours at home and not sleep, half of which is basically devoted to food and showering and inbetween logistical shit

i guess i should make a serious schedule and fuck it up the ass

>>3905468
Here, have a (you) fren.

>>3905542
>im terrified that im losing my will to draw
You won't. On the contrary, you'll crave drawing even more since you only have a limited time at home. Find at least one hour of your time to draw when you get home or dedicate a drawing time on the weekend. You'll eventually find a schedule that works for you. Good luck anon

I hate myself and drawing used to be my only outlet, but now even that doesn’t seem to help. It’s one of the only things I can say I’m “good” at and the only thing that gives me any value or self esteem. But honestly I don’t enjoy it very much, it’s just stressful and depressing and all I can really think about is how quickly I’d trade everything I know for other things in life

>>3905542
Why don't you buy a cheap tablet and draw in your commuting time? Or just keep a sketchbook around .

>>3905515
This

Only thing I'm interested in drawing is porn/animu girls. It feels like the sole reason I draw is my sex drive.

I started drawing in December, and was drawing every day until March when I had to go back to uni. I couldn't muster the energy to draw for 4 weeks, and after that, I've only drawn once or twice a week. Fuck universities

>out of regular pencils, only have a mechanical one
>can't use overhand grip
>quality immediately drops like a rock
fuck

>>3905382
I haven't drawn in a month or so.
Problem is pretty much the only thing I could ever actually see myself doing is art. It feels like I've got no future with anything else and I'm too lazy or depressed or whatever to actually draw or post enough to gain any traction.
I can make alright content and I get noticeably better if I end up drawing a lot but that rarely happens.
Fucks me up man.

>failing my easy as fuck uni classes because I can't bring myself to work
>meanwhile, I'm not progressing in art either
>spend days doing jackshit, not even playing vidya or watching shit
When I say that I'm tired of being an unmotivated fag that's bad at art, I'm probably lying. If I were tired of it, I'd have rectified my behavior long ago. I don't know what made me grown so complacent.

>>3905426
Why does color theory suck ass?

>>3905679
I dunno how to make colors fit each other you know? So when I use color it usually looks like a noir pice o' shit

Studying engineering, really just want to do comics.
My current dream is to invest all my money into stable, passive income and never work another day in my life.

>>3905577
It's not unusual for the commute to be by car/ in traffic. I see people in my country stuck in 2.5 hours of traffic, going to work and back, every single day.
>>3905672
make a schedule, or if not then a simple task you have to complete daily.
I just started with "30 minute figure drawing class + 2 comic page study (thumbnails)" and it really helps focus me and warm me up to draw more

>>3905420
I hope you understand how fucked that is now, you couldve really hurt them. I know someone on meds like that and without them they'd be a danger to others and especially themselves.
Competitive can be good but don't physically or just deliberately hurt people.
You seem to have learned though, keep it up.

>>3905655
Try think about the future less, that helps me the most
If I can just get started somehow, even if it's just testing new brushes or trying a tool, I can keep going and think about only what I'm doing in the moment
Thinking about the pressures of the future or regrets of the past only make me stressed and unhappy and I don't draw at all

Just draw something dumb but fun today that you don't show anyone so you break that dry streak

>>3905515
I gave up on posting regularly. I'm slowly losing followers but I feel like I care less and less every day.

>>3905655
Can relate so much to this. What the fuck.

Am I the only one who gets absolutely infuriated when an artist you follow says things like "lol I wish I knew how to draw" or "I wish I could draw as well" when they clearly can? As someone who is trying to learn late in life I can't help but find that bullshit maddening.

>>3905515
It helps to draw for yourself first and foremost as a beginner.
When you’re fast enough, precise enough to make a drawing you like in an hour then you can chase publicity and getting donations.

>>3905382
I miss drawing :\ My ulnar and median nerves and neck and tendons are all fucked up from different stuff and I can't get rid of it. I can't do anything anymore. Can't run, can't draw, can't make music, can't do anything. It all hurts all the time. I got out of a really bad drinking binge a few weeks ago just because I wanted to die so badly. I'd work, come home, and drink until I passed out for months until I started getting stomach ulcers and shit. I'm sure I've permanently wrecked my brain at least somewhat but at this point who cares. I don't have anything I want to do or be anymore. Drawing was fun but it's not like I was ever going to get really good at it, but I was happy with that. I just liked doing it for it's own sake and now I can't do it anymore. I still save photos for my inspiration folder knowing I haven't drawn in years because it just feels good to pretend that I'll do it later. I wish I could be put down. God knows I don't have the balls to do it. I don't want to die I just don't think there's anything good waiting for me

I study so much I have no energy to draw.
I still try to """draw""" everyday so for the last week i haven't ""draw"" anything else but ovals and squares in my sketchbook

My relationship ended after a number of years because I thought I was something I was not, this event then lead me to leave my illustration course majority of people whom I considered my friends stop talking to me. My ex then dated one of said friends in the group which destroyed me even further. The one or two friends who were happy to keep contact I fucked up on one person because I said I would support them and their project but due to massive debt I couldn’t. I’ve now paid it off but I had to work hard to even get to this point and the time it took to fix this is the time it took for this to be fixed it’s too late, he doesn’t need someone flakey in their lives so we both just stop talking which I fully blame myself for. The other person after exploring what I thought I was with him has now ghosted me, though we’ve been friends since we were 11 and now I’m deep into my 20’s so it feels like a part of me has been ripped away.

I’ve always been quite isolated but this is for the first time where I’ve truly been alone, only thing stopping me from ending it all is having a little brother to teach. I’m so proud of his progress and every painting he has sent me, but it feels harder and harder to keep going.

It feels like I’m nearing the end, I still have a love for drawing and painting but I don’t know how to keep my spirits up. I’d say I’m hoping for an easy answer but I know it doesn’t work like that, thinking about leaving and starting fresh somewhere.

>>3905472
Some advice from Marco bucci is to just tell the client straight up your struggling and explain to them while your still gonna try your best it is a personal blindspot in terms of skill for yourself. They’ll be happier knowing than not.

>>3905399
must not have been too important if it was only 1 day ago and you forgot about it desu ne

>>3906137
Hook yourself to a big project, perhaps. Staying focused on something will keep the dark thoughts away.

Having a frustrating day and I want to punch the shit out of someone or call people faggots on the internet
I wish I could make vent art but that would just make me even more frustrated because I can't fucking draw. Isn't art supposed to be a way to escape or self express, goddamn

>>3906116
>I can't do anything anymore.
Not with that attitude. There are fucking quadriplegics out there in the world who have managed to find creative outlets in spite of their conditions and are able to enjoy life.

Get help. I do not say that to be an asshole, I fully symphathize with you, but if you're so down in the dumps you can't get yourself out of it, it is okay and not at all a weakness to seek professional help.

>>3906137
just draw nakid woman and make money fuck bitches ?

>>3906082
Not really, they usually aren't as good as you think they are and have higher aspirations and more subtle concerns than /beg/s. One day you'll be in the same position where you're halfway competent but see all your flaws and the results still don't match your vision. I had to nuke an account when I reached a certain level because my old art and my old watchlist didn't do it for me anymore.

>>3906116
thats rad, anon. Idk what to say really, i probably agree with other anon, can you find help? Maybe there some groups of people you can join in rl and talk about it, like to help each other mentally? Maybe problem can be solved if you find other outlet that makes you more happy? Makes you fun? You know, i heard some saying that people may change when they get to lowest point, to emotional trauma level. I think you can do it, you have not surrendered.

>>3906162
That's a good plan, if I can get my little brother involved I think it would help me a lot to get to a better place in terms of mental health and skill in the work I produce.

>>3906267
I'll keep that it mind, maybe I can create a doujin featuring toho monster grills on the side to make money.

loomis books are such a chore and I I frankly don't see the appeal.

>>3906323
>mathbooks are such a chore and I I frankly don't see the appeal

There isn't suppose to be an appeal, their grind matierial to allow you to level up. Fundementals are the math of art, and math fucking sucks.

>>3906329
I get your point, I meant the books themselves, not the concept of fundies or grinding. I feel like they've been overhyped to an unhealthy point and it just makes me wonder why. There certainly are better books out there

I feel like everytime I sit down to practice things I'm wasting time. I always feel as though I'm not learning anything and when I try to apply what I've been going over it just makes it even more apparent that nothing I looked at stuck with me. Pisses me off a ton and I don't know what I can do to fix this

i've been drawing digitally for about a month now and everything i make looks awful, way worse than my traditional stuff

when does it get better

>>3906141
Man, you're a really good person anon, thanks
i was thinking about that video when i jotted that post
[it's actually for an intensive portfolio class so unhappily i can't really bend the standards
Though I suppose it's probably a great opportunity in the longer view actually, to sketch a little foundation into the gaps in my experience]
you give advice generously

>>3906334
You're right, it's one of those things where you have to balance it. Too much of one or the other and it can cause problems, I only look at loomis or whatever when I'm struggling with something, that way I still take in the knowledge but I'm producing something more so fun and no getting bogged down by fundies.

I don't know what my goals are anymore. I can see a piece and be inspired by it but if I imagine myself making something at that level is just seems so boring, I can't get over this feeling. I'm at a plateau

>>3906411
Great output doesn't always equal long time spent, if you can strategize the way you paint you can achieve what you get inspired by much faster. Think of a painting as a war, you want it won fast as possible with the least amount of causalities, so strategize the way you paint go full Sargent.

Though honestly don't take what I say as the answer as I have no idea what I'm talking about half if not most the time.

>>3905382
obligatory "shitty stick figure drawing crabs giving retarded critique born from jealous asshurt" post

>>3906419
>hasn't even read the thread

I'd say this in more in line with solving personal problems to help advance in your work, theres people struggling with life and if anons can help each other out then I think that's quite a positive thing. I'd say improve the way you see things because this mindset you have is only going to damage you in terms of outreaching, everyone needs help and everyone is struggling with their own lives including you. Maybe you have some problems you'd like to state and perhaps I can try to help.

>>3905382
I still can't master the fundies. I know my work should look more 3D and I roughly know the body parts. The pecs should kinda connect to the shoulders, the ribcage protrudes, we only have a 4-pack, I kinda know the back muscles...

BUUUUUT, once I try to draw some character it's still mostly flat even though I'm trying to depict what I know. But I know what I have to do. Practice more gesture and copy anime characters, yes I'll do it. I've studied enough naked people.

>>3906452
>we only have a 4-pack
It's an 8 pack.

>>3906470
Y-yeah I knew that

>>3906452
Recognizing and knowing something are different. You can only really say you know them when you can reproduce them. So no, you have not studied enough naked people. And studying means drawing the thing you are studying a whole lot. Do figure drawing, use croquis. Copy anime characters later you fuck

>>3906116
can you draw with your wrist? I've been using intous small and basically just drew with my wrist for the last 3 years on it(can't really use your shoulder on it). Can you draw reclined or laying down in your bed where your neck wouldn't be used as much? I have a mini portable easel for that, just sits on my stomach while I lay down and draw, absolutely kino. Lastly maybe try sticking with felt tips/roller balls, pens that allow you to draw with a very light grip.

I have severe OCD bordering on insanity. If I’m away from my art for 5 minutes I get scared I’ll lose the ability to draw. Intrusive thoughts make this worse. There is very little logical basis for this

>>3906137
it sucks your in that position. My situation isnt nearly as fucked as yours but i also have a younger brother who i tought everything i know about art and programming, and seeing the wild shit he comes up with every time i visit really helps me keep it together. good luck with stuff i hope you two stay close

Trying to focus on a career path is impossible. I want to be a Storyboard Artist (More specifically for Animations). Simple enough. But wait, I have to study cinematography, drawing fundamentals, story fundamentals, do some Networking, and even some rendering capabilities for color scripts. How the fuck do I organize the time I have to compensate for all this? Every time I make a schedule for drawing, I never ending up being remotely efficient with that time because there's just SO much to learn and practice and it's hard to prioritize all of that.

>>3906436
the fuck are you talking about lol.
ESL?

Why can't just be left alone in my own little world and draw forever? I don't want to participate in society anymore.

>>3906738
Just move out into the middle of fucking nowhere, build a self-sustaining underground bunker, and live out your days. That's my plan.

>>3905420
Most annoying type of people glad you’ve moved past that

How do I get better at writing stories, specifically characterization?

I want to do comics, lots of ideas for worlds and such. But I suck at writing character motivation, I can build up a really cool world with side-characters and cities but I have no idea what my main characters personalities are like or their motivation for being together.

>>3906915
Read more, analyze what you're reading, read more books on writing, etc.

>>3905420
You sound like a woman

>>3906738
Same holy shit, I want to quit my job and just draw everyday all day. I have enough money to cover rent for a few years and I can do it. But it's not ''the right thing to do'' and I like the people at work

>feeling completely alienated from society and my loved ones as a freelance artist
>everyone thinks that I'm unemployed because I'm not employed by someone else
>sometimes make rude comments about me "getting a job"
>can't explain my job to them because its just so far from what they are accustomed to
>really am constantly broke, but surviving well enough, paying bills. bought myself a bike the other day
>but im rich in things most people don't ever get, mostly freedom

>>3905382
I need a hug right now

>>3907130
*hug* fren

>draw something lewd
>OMG Thank you so much This is awesome Never stop drawing
>draw something wholesome
>*crickets*
it's like the gods don't want me to move into an artstyle I can ever show my grandma

>>3905616
My brother. Don’t sweat it man, as long as you’re drawing and having fun it’s all good. Look at Kim Jung Gi, that dudes a horny ass mofo. And even if you have art goals, the sheer act of drawing porn/animu girls will help you as long as you make sure to use it as an opportunity to learn. What’s important is that you’re drawing.

>>3905382
Not enough artist draw black people which leads to drawings of black characters being really basic and boring. Or just racist i guess.

>>3907142
>I can ever show my grandma
My grandma, passed away recently, I never got to show her that I was working on becoming a successful artist, so I could afford a better house for her, to show I loved her and appreciated all she did for me. Now I never will. god I miss her so much

>>3906684
I think it might be good to realize that you're not gonna walk in to a studio and be given as high of a level job as a Storyboard Artist, and probably be put on something small scale with very little creative freedom, like cleanup or assistant. Work on the skills for that job, mostly having very solid linework, good anatomy and perspective and networking. Once you get a foot in, you can more study story and cinematography and more stuff.

Also, I've heard of many many storyboarders making their own comics before doing animation, so try that. Also accept that any first comic you do is going to be objectively shit, but something you can learn from

>>3907213
Yeah I agree. They get to caught up on the basics of drawing a black character and just end up giving them a fade or making them bald with no unique facial features.

Been doing art since middle school, finally getting published, still worried as fuck because I can't draw hands without refrence.

This is what happens when you put everything into shading and ignore everything else.

>>3907315
And people fucking love it, of course.

>>3907315
holy shit that leg

>>3907219
Sorry that happened man. I hope things get better for you.

>>3907315
Fucking hell, the longer I look at it, the worse it gets. What the hell is going on with her torso? What's with that tiny hand?
Someone should redline this for shits and giggles.

>>3905513
>scared of a drawing
Imagine being this much of a pussy that you are scared of finding out that your imagined ability is inconsistent with your actual ability.

>>3907317
>>3907315
I can't draw at that level but I can see the issues with it, but if normies don't seem to care I should post my work more and be less of a perfectionist.

>>3907323
thank you, I hope things get better too, but whenever I try to do anything, I think of all the time I wasted playing video games and shit instead of practicing and now even if I'm getting close to a level where I can start making enough money, it doesn't really matter. so I guess if anyone is reading this and in a similar situation, please don't waste your time with distractions like I did, actually follow your goals and do something to show how much you love them.

>>3907095
based

>>3905468
It will get better anon

>>3907315
kek it looks pretty bad the longer you look at it
though it's reassuring, if anything. Your art doesn't need to be perfect.

>>3905382
when i draw i feel its really good and nice and i like it and when i finish i realize its shit

>>3906970
>read more books on writing
Can you be more specific? Examples of good books?

>post my pic on my blog
>spend next hour refreshing it to see if I'll get any watchers or upvotes or maybe even comments
I know it's a waste of time, but it's so addicting I can't stop myself

i want to kill myself so badly

>>3906915
To be blunt most comicbook writers are terrible, so the bar isn't high. Not a ton of Grant Morrisons running around.

Almost all writers start with what you have right now, a general idea and then they slowly build it up, so dont worry if you dont think the whole thing up right away, it takes a long while of adding bit by bit.

This is going to sound ridiculous but if you want to write good characters then try building your emotional intelligence and self awareness. By emotional intelligence i mean, and i know this sounds gay, but compassion, relating to people, imagining why they do things but from a point of view of being a nice dude about it, not judgemental. Then you need self awareness, because, well, we know everything through ourselves, show me someone who doesn't understand other people and i'll show you someone who doesn't understand himself. Most of knowing other people is just knowing how you would act. Once of the best ways to build this stuff is fine literature. I recommend Tolstoy and Dostoevsky. Both of them are good at forcing the reader to empathize with the characters. Their are no irredeemably evil characters in either of their books, even seemingly bad characters your taught to empathize with through the writing. By design they teach you empathy.

I feel like I've just gotten extremely lazy in the past 4 months. All my drawings this year have just been shitty doodles with no effort put in because I've been chasing this new idea of "style" where there's a lot less detail but more emphasis on striking colour combinations.
The end result is just me forgetting how to draw and getting increasingly more lazy. None of my drawings have any purpose anymore, I haven't aimed to make anything good in ages, I've just been treating drawing as a meditative pass time and when I get bored (which is pretty quickly) I'll just stop.
I'm looking at my older drawings from last year and they all have so much more spunk and charisma. I won't deny that I've improved in some areas this year, but I feel like I've lost that spark that I had last year that kept me going.
I've always just drawn art for fun but I think now is the time for me to get more serious and start by "grinding some fundies". I feel like that will help me achieve a sense of improvement and maturity that will help me get back onto my feet.

I want to be better, I dont want to be a be a no name no worth being, but I'm only human after all, I fail and I fail, I don't draw for fun, I have issues with the same fucking movement. Maybe it's not for me, fuck I hate it, damn you all.
If only I could change a lot of things now.

>>3907095
Just tell them you're the fucking boss of your company, they should understand what it implies

I used to commission a lot of artwork, no reason really, just had disposable income and liked my retarded online persona a little too much.

But the thing that gets me, is that I never paid any of those artist more than $70. Most of them I paid in the $15-30 range, and they were all way better than me. Holy shit vro, I'm NGMI
Pic related, I paid $15 for it.

>>3905616
Same, I get much harder when I draw compared to watching porn, creating my own fap material feels like perfectly correct thing to do.

>>3906137
Fuck anon this made me feel. 4 month ago my ex broke up, we had been together for some years and she was my first girlfriend and first love.
It was the classic "I don't think I'm ready to settle yet". It fucking destroyed me, as before we got together I was a complete neet with 0 friends and 0 social circles.
Her leaving is my entire social life gone, it's like I've been plunged back into darkness and the solitude is incredibly heavy. Just wanted to say I relate and empathize I guess. Stay strong, I'm sorry this happened to you.

>>3907095
I understand that and feel at peace from it, because of how much I value freedom. Sometimes, when directly confronted to society
- whic happens rarely nowadays - I just stock up on a kind of rightous anger as a response to the alienation.

>>3907947
Stay strong anon. Even if I don't know you, the simple thought that there is an anon out there who in one way or another must enjoy something about art, and is thinking of ending it all, is enough for me to care. I don't know your circumstances but please hang in there.

I'm tired of how formatting and crushing /ic/ (and especially /beg/) can be about art. Sure fundies are important, but why do I almost never see any feedback or criticism on the actual aesthetic and feel of a work?
Imagine if Schiele or Matisse lived today and posted one of their works, they would get told that their hands are all fucked and wrong and that they should go back to loomis and vilppu. But I think their drawings are beautiful and surely I'm not entirely alone in that opinion since it's not a stretch to say they are both considered as a great artist internationally. What if I do something that gets away from reality (and that isn't anime) and would like to hear about the composition, the values, the emotions people get from it. Because that's the hard part for me and that is the feedback I need. When I do a study, I think it's obvious where my shortcomings are and what's not good about it. When I do something creative, I have no idea if I managed to communicate some emotion or some beauty to it. But whenever going away from realism or standard accepted styles like anime, it seems the feedback will just be concerned to point out that what you did isn't correct and leave it at that.

As a result of this, I've started only ever posting generic bland studies for criticism and am becoming increasingly doubtful about trying to be creative at all. And I really want to point out this isn't a case of “I'm ignoring basics and pretending I have style” or what. I spend about two thirds of my art time doing careful, rigorous studies, and the last third actually trying to express myself artistically.

>>3905382
Is it possible to be a homeless artist? 4 months with no job an studying art has my family being passive aggressive about kicking me out.

>>3908498
Stop being a filthy NEET and get your ass to work.

>>3908501
I've been looking, just the last two jobs i had didnt offer breaks so now I'm real picky.

I'm finishing off an old painting and it's excruciatingly slow going. The colors are not quite good enough and there is still some compositional work to do, and minor detailing. Another very old piece is being reinvigorated while a new art work seems like it will be finished in two months from start to finish. The futility of painting in the heimat is total.

>>3908321
Christ, artists are really selling themselves short for their craft.

>>3908321
should've been at least $30. I drew non-porn commissions shittier than that for way more.

Hey I gave up drawing 1 month ago and I hate you all
I'll never come back because I'm too fucking weak so if you're still in the game y'all bunch if pussies better do your fucking best to make it. Do it for me because I'm still crying inside that depression made me let go of my childhood dream.

>>3905407
Study drawings you like and understand why they are appealing. Compare to yours. This will give you answers.

>>3908965
You better get back to it or you will be reminded all your life everytime you see a picture that this could be you if you didn't gave up

>>3908991
I don't know man. Sometimes I wonder if I'm not confusing my love for art with the need to do art myself. It's really hard to separate this cause my ego wants to be that guy? But do I need to?
Fuck, I really don't know. I just know I love drawing but at my level it's also a total waste of time.

>>3908997
Love the process. I suck at drawing but I still take take a lot of pleasure from just sitting down and drawing for a bit. You might not improve at the rate you want, but every time you get an "aha" moment is great and a step in the right direction. There's no rush, but giving up is stupid.

>>3906340
same issue but vise-versa. With digital art I can always fix my problems, but with traditional if you fuck up even slightly the whole thing is ruined. Makes me legitimately furious.

I kinda miss being able to play vidya without a worry

Remember watchinga video with an art teacher who said something like
>People keep asking me why if they're supposed to focus 100% on art, the artists they like always have video games and movies on their stories
>those guys already made it, they're professionals with professional skills when they put in the hours.
>what's more important, your art skills or that game you didn't beat?

>>3909367
I've been through that and now that feeling is gone. I don't miss it anymore, weirdly.
I do worry about other things though, because I still don't focus on art 100%. I spend a lot of time learning languages and working out too, and sometimes wonder if i'm gimping myself doing other things

>>3905382
I have absolutely nothing to say.

I've spent the last 5 years working to just be able to draw but it ended up just being for the sake of being able to draw.

My wife left me, both careers I was working toward fell through and at the end the only thing that I ever cared for is becoming absolutely meaningless because at best I can spend 8+ hours on something and have someone spend all of three seconds at most on twitter before completely forgetting about ever having seen it. I'm starting to hate all facets of art because unless it's really good porn I know for a fact I won't remember anything that I've consumed a year from now, it's all akin to a vanilla calorie slurry and nothing I do will be any different.

The one thing that I thought would give me meaning in my life didn't because there was nothing there to begin with. I'll keep on going because of the sunken cost fallacy and because it's the only remotely marketable skill I have after all this time but I wish at least some of it had any sort of meaning to include my life.

>>3909422
No. No.
You are not drawing so that someone on twitter gives you a bit of attention and so you can get a dopamin shot. You are not an instagram whore.
You do not consume art so that you can "remember" it. Beauty can be fleeting and that is okay. What matters is that you can appreciate it in the present, and that perharps that fleeting appreciation can subtely change you or your own art, or push you to seek more art.
There is meaning to be found in drawing. You have lost yourself along the way. The meaning is not in the end but the means. Draw you, draw yourself, who you are, how you feel. Draw your frustrations for having lost all the things you think you've lost.
And you may start to realize it's hard to do that, to draw abstract ideas and communicate them into a visual way that people can relate and understand, and you might learn more about yourself experimenting and trying to discover how to do this, and before you will know it your life will be full of meaning again.

Drawing to draw is meaningless. Art is about expression and communication. If you draw only to make a living, or only to recieve attention, then you have fallen for hedonistic and nihilistic ideas. Whilst recieving recognition and making a living out of art is fantastic, it has to be done in accordance with your soul and virtue.
You may believe you have nothing to say, but there is a lot to say in having nothing to say. John Cage would say "I have nothing to say, and I am saying it".
Express yourself, draw your heart a bit. Worry about marketing and selling and internet fame when you are able to find some meaning and stand firm, as that is more important.

>>3909422
Don't tji k about it too much. Draw what you like because you like it. It's energy and passion shared. It's good cause it gives humanity soul. Makes both you and normies feel something. Feeling is living.


On the other hand if you really feel like you need a purpose and you want to tell something....wdll, man, just re-read your post. I'm pretty sure there a story and themsmes in there you could tell about. It doesn't even need to be the story exactly as a comic or something (even if that's one way). It can just be illustration that convey these feels and story more or less abstractly.

>>3909367
>get into Divinity Original Sin 2 again with some mods
>from the time I get home to the time I go to bed was spent playing the game over the last couple of days
>only drawing I've done are doodles at work
I'm only drawing for fun so I don't feel impacted. If anything the 3 hours I get of sleep ovee the last few days is more of a killer.

>>3905382
I fucking hate other artists that cry about not getting attention that they ""deserve."" If you clearly aren't good enough to grow an audience or dedicated to draw for yourself despite the lack of one then fuck off and stop drawing. I'm tired of seeing mediocrity crying about not making it. You get what you put out. If you haven't made it yet then piss off and stop oversaturating the art poole with your fapshit anime art of your shit waifu.

>>3909886
Good post
I suck and even I now that

KIKKOMAN ONIONS SAUCE IS NOW HARAM
FUUUUUUUUUUCK
WHY DID IT HAVE TO BE FUCKING KIKKOMAN

>>3905498
I’ll talk about it in different terms when I learned how to do rails in park skiing I would stress out all the time. I would dream about the rail and how I would turn etc I was so nervous. The only way to know you can do it is to just try it. Start out slow you just have to get on it your not going to make it but you force yourself to keep getting on it toll you slide to the end. Sorry for the analogy but maybe start with forms than go to figure or try a figure it doesn’t matter if it’s shit you are going to have to draw it anyways and you just have to keep forcing yourself to.

>>3907315
People trying to hate on art that probably took longer to do than most of y'all have spent drawing in total. I'm not gonna say it's perfect but jesus fuck, it's called foreshortening, sometimes it looks a little off.

>>3909960
It doesn't even look like there was an attempt to foreshorten. Also, no one's saying the rendering is bad, they obviously know how to do it. It's the foundation of the drawing that looks absolutely horrible, so don't sit here and act like its not still fucked if you look at it for too long.

>>3909967
>>3909967
Foreshortening ≠ Perspective

The effect of objects appearing similar sized is caused by field of view, meaning a longer distance from the viewer / camera and a narrower crop. The example you redline would just be an effect by the viewer being closer to the subject.

>>3910020
anon......

>>3909960
>y'all
Go back.

>>3907710
Truby's The Anatomy of Story is really good.

I can afford a screen-tablet, I want one.
But I'm self-conscious of being like those fags on YT with like 50 tablets and 0 skill

I try my best to be supportive of my friends shit. I like/favourite it, usually comment an aspect I especially like, be excited about their projects, have even commissioned them, etc. But even though they follow me and interact with me, not a single one will ever acknowledge my posts. They'll message me with HEY YOU SEE MY NEW PROJECT??? AREN'T YOU?? EXCITED???? ALSO HERE'S THE LINK TO MY NEWEST POST. But this probably is what I get for being a secret crab on the inside, though. Even though I do my best to come off as nice and supportive, I think all of them are shit. Maybe I should drop them and try to get engaged with better people. One is a weird dragon furry with a fatty fetish. He chicken scratches his lineart and uses crayola markers to colour stuff. Also calls himself a professional, has hundreds of posts but only 30 followers, and is upset people don't commission him. But he still is nice. Another is someone who broadcasts their entire life online. They try to get sympathy points for supposedly having an ed, having anxiety, that people get mad at them (spoiler: the reasons are good and these people's reaction aren't as severe as they could be given the situation). Their OCs are pretty bad. Several are associated with creepypasta, they're rip offs of anime, generally blatantly edgy, etc. Over a hundred of them as well. It's like they stake a claim in the designs by drawing them once and then never visit them again. But they lose their shit if they think a new follower is copying their old deviantart character design from 3 years ago that they drew once. Also lose their shit if a single random person critiques their art. It'll be a flood of "I'm sorry I'm not good enough. Maybe I should just give up forever uwuwuwu... BUT DON'T THEY KNOW HOW DISGUSTINGLY HURTFUL CRITIQUE IS? HOW RUINS AND DISTRESSES THE ARTIST?" This person is an adult btw. Like, 20's. There's still more I want to bitch about

>>3910204
>giving a shit about what people think of you

>>3910244
These "friends" you have are actual subhumans
Get away from these retards holy shit

>>3910204
instead of thinking that consider the literal thousands of artists with tablets AND more skill than you

easy fix

>>3910204
if you're anything like me and had real issues getting into a screen-less tablet and the whole hand to eye thing and want a screen tablet to actually use the thing then by all means bud, I am a neet poorfag so getting a screen tablet was a stretch for me, worried I'd be wasting money myself that I'd never get my worth from but it's quite the opposite.
as long as you don't buy one after the one you currently want you probably don't have to worry about being a day YTer with more money spent than time

How do I start valuing myself more? When I have trouble drawing something, I sometimes end up hurting myself as a form of punishment, but also in order to release pent up anger. This is how I've been coping for a decade now and the only reason I feel remorse about it is because it's not accepted in society. But this also pisses me off because getting drunk on the regular is way worse for your body, while me hurting myself is just a fucking superficial wound that isn't going to impact my brain function

I went to Comiket in Tokyo once

The amount of amazing artists was fucking astounding. Like guys who if they posted here would have people licking their shoes for gains.
I hear it's the same in the US Comicon, hundreds of superstar illustrators and comic artists.

These are artists I save in my "Inspiration" folder, I barely acknowledged they existed as people.
But there's thousands of them out there, how the hell am I supposed to compete with them?

>>3911494
You seem pretty troubled. Punishing yourself won't work. Working out/sports is very good outlet for negative emotions, it will produce dopamine, clear your mind and keep you fit/more confident.

>>3911503
bringing your unique flavor to it all is the only way you can hope to get by

I have this sort of barrier i've noticed with environments, or compositions. I know of them, and I study them. I just can't construct my own originals without my head frying itself in confusion. I worry i'm far too stupid for it. I can tackle characters just fine, but the second you add an environment, there's lighting, shading, all the stuff you have to take into account for the one character x100, it's overwhelming, and even though I want to be a character artist, I have this impulse to atleast be somewhat adequate with backgrounds before I continue refining my character skills, I feel its more than just doubting myself and it's a struggle to comprehend what to do about it.

I can also lock up sketching out poses for characters some day, and others breeze through it. I think i'm becoming far too reliant on reference images to do the thinking part for me.

>>3911515

lock up when sketching out poses for characters some days* like I said, i'm not very intelligent.

>>3911503
I doubt you will every be competitive on their level. Very few get that far. You have to do it because you enjoy it and understand you will have a limit however high or low it is and strive to get there. Another approach is have a good story to go with your art if you have the ability. It's much more rare to find decent art and story line together. A good story can compensate for sub-par art, at least till the art catches up.

>>3911503
>how the hell am I supposed to compete with them
I've been here before too. Even if you're intermediate level you feel that there's ocean between you and the people who are working artists.

But I've had a breakthrough in my skill level recently and I've learned that it is all about intelligent, focused practice where improving incrementally in the goal.

Take one of your favorite artists. Analyze their work and see what kind of skills they had to employ to make it. For example, Ruan Jia's simplest work are fantasy portraits or full body characters with impressionistic backgrounds, but they look so impressive because of how he designs their costumes, and how he paints color, light and shadow to achieve realism and atmosphere.

My point is that the unattainable becomes attainable when you visualize it as a series of steps that can be planned. If you wanted to paint characters like this Ruan Jia painting then you could plan your course of study as something like this in order:

>general nude figure drawing
>drawing action poses
>figure drawing poses from imagination
>digital painting nude figures
>drawing figures in costume (reference)
>drawing figures in costume from imagination
>drawing costumed figures in action poses
>digital painting costumed figures
>drawing & painting costumed figure in environment

That can either seem too simple or too complicated, but the fact is every artist who can make paintings like Ruan had to build it up from the bottom. Focusing on a few steps at a time allows you to practice with purpose and build the foundation for what's next. As you get much better at one fundamental you'll have much more confidence to tackle more advanced skills that use it as a pre-requisite.

Having a plan is extremely important or you will just jump around drawing this or that with no real focus, and you may lose sight of your goal.

>>3911503
be good in a niche, doesn't matter how good your art is if it isn't sonic porn

>>3911546
forgot to add pic lol

I also view art as similar to weight lifting. Say you can only bench press 120lbs and your goal is to say that you can bench 225. How do you get there? Progressive overload - add a little bit of weight to the bar every week for that lift as well as do other lifts that help your performance in that area. And in weight training it is equally easy to stagnate if you don't train often enough or you keep lifting the same amount of weight for too long. You just gotta climb that ladder until you reach the top, but it seems 100% more possible if you have a program to follow.

>>3911494
I also have depressive/suicidal tendencies. Go experience nature. Embrace stoicism. Never allow yourself to dwell in despair.
Look at the bigger picture. I don't have any reason to live today or tomorrow but I have faith that my suffering will be worthwhile in ten years. I could just as easily be sad and I was for a long time but I've chosen to believe.Take a look at where you are, where you've been, and what you could be. There's only so much that can be said on a chinese clam fishing website. The answer is within yourself. Stand as the man you are and walk.

>>3911559
i thought this was a jamaican bone reading forum

Drawing has somehow helped me make friends at every low point in my life. I express emotions poorly and have abandonment issues; I feel like I have to service people who call me friend to show I care (drawing them stuff, buying things for them, giving excessive attention and praise). Tale as old as time, this insecurity does not attract people who care about me for me or who stick around, but it's hard to break out of it.

I admitted to someone once that I did things for them in hopes that they would see value in me and they dropped me faster because they felt I was doing it for the wrong reason - to be cared about, not because I cared.

I feel like this kind of thinking often applies to art. The concept of wanting attention, acceptance, to be valued for what you can do is seen as a sort of weakness or selfishness. I also see the idea pushed that you must be able to make yourself happy, and I agree that no one can truly look out for you but yourself. I know the shame from wanting to be able to do something of value or to mean something to someone. Every attempt at communication since the beginning of human history was a cry for attention of some sort... we can be independent but we don't have to convince ourselves that we are fine with things as they are because we feel like we have no other option. But it's so complicated.

No matter how friends come and go, it's still lonely. Maybe that is part of being an artist, or depression, or human nature. Maybe I'm just a lonely fuck. But I'm reaching the point where I want to try and be social again, to show what I can do, and I'm trying to stop myself because of how poorly it always goes. I'm tired.

I lost my drive a long time ago, but I still try and sketch a few times a month.
Those rare moments remind me where I am and why I'll stay there.

It's weird coming here. I don't draw or contribute.
I'm sad (and little jealous) that others continue to make work they like and get recognition. All the while I stay defective. They have something I don't.

So many years have gone by; I've accepted this is how it is for me.

Maybe one day that'll change, but I won't hold my breath.

>>3911939
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>>3911947
based and AAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHpilled

>>3911552
I agree with everything you said in both your post except
>I also view art as similar to weight lifting
as a /fit/ guy, I wish drawing was like WL. 10 mindless figure drawing then 10 mindless drawing from imagination then 10 mindless sketch. then add +5 next week etc. and you end up good just by sweating and being regular
Unfortunately I actually have to not only use my muscles memory for this skill but also my brainlet mind + learning tons of knowledges

>>3911581
Interesting post, this could be me in a few years.
but right now I'm fine as a lonely dog

>>3911939
This post has a lot of soul
hang in there bro

I have a really lack-luster art freelance career
It seems like my skills are degrading, drawing takes me longer and I can't increase my rates to something livable. I've stayed afloat for like three years but I'm probably just going to end up as a waitress again. I can't really build towards a future.
I'm severely depressed, when I sit down to work I just completely lock up. I'm months behind on one of my freelance assignments, and it's actually a project I should enjoy. I'm probably going to get fired.

It's not so much art block, I feel like my soul went missing or some shit. Like you don't have to be absolutely amazing to get paid to draw but idk what I'm doing anymore

>>3911581
i gave up on this already

>>3911947
I do draw, every day. That's not the issue. Maybe you have some changes you want to make yourself. I hope you find what you're looking for.

I learned I have developed deathgrip by accidentally snapping my stylus in my hand

Ive been occassionally sketching with a mechanical pencil and a ruled notepad for the last week or so

>>3911982
Well the best part about art is you don't have to take rest days, and you can do it as much as you possibly can so there's that.

>>3911947
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>>3912067
At least you didn't learn it by accidentally snapping dick

>>3912067
Wow you are retarded

>>3912067
Congrats you have retard strength

>>3910272
>>3910699
I just kinda know that having non-screen tablet just isn't an issue with my work, I'm just being a spoiled faggot thinking throwing money at the issue will fix it

>>3909367
The question is stupid because the answer is obviously the game you didn't beat because you can always go back to work on your art skills. The game can't always be gone back to though.

It occurred to me how out of sync we are compared to artists of the past. A Japanese ukiyo-e artist from 1860, say, would be part of a lineage, a culture, and so on. He would be keenly aware of the changing seasons, instead of being stuffed in a concrete apartment, separated from nature. He would be aware of his place in the world. It feels hollow to realize that I’m just a rootless sap, living without reference to anything greater, having no community to draw for. I can’t ever be like Rackham, who belonged to a particular European tradition that stretched back to the Middle Ages. Also, if we draw something for beauty’s sake, it will be glossed over for the heaps of garbage that cater to the basest and silliest of human desires. Look at Ahmed Aldoori for instance, do you ever think he asks himself “what does my art say?”. All public artwork has the inherent statement “the man who created me believed I should be shown to you”. What does Ahmed’s pointy nosed pink-haired girl with a sword say? Not that he thought it was particularly beautiful, but that that picture was just an outlet to display his technical skill. What was a means to an end has now become an end in itself.

>>3909967
>>3910072
>The absolute state
You drew this, had the confidence to post it. That's bold.

>>3908498
It would make a cool story to see a homeless person who every day would live in the city and draw the architecture around him, the people in coffee shops on the street, ask strangers to do their portraits for practice etc. You'd really have like the whole world to study from, a lot more than people have being in their house.
all you would need to keep stocked up would be paper and pencils. Homeless people actual make a lot of money panhandling.
You' draw every day and never touch drugs, you'd be a total anomaly among st homeless people.

>>3912271
It was an easy fix.Took me 5 minutes to do and it looks much better as a result. You're welcome.

>>3907365
Regretting the time you wasted is still wasting time, now’s when you have to pick it up and move forward. I know you probably don’t want someone preaching at you on some mongolian pictogram board but I just felt I had to say something.

It's almost been 1.5 years since I finished a drawing. I've been drawing practically every day.
I just can't, I see the faults in them too quickly but can't fix them. I feel like I'm wasting my time finishing it instead of studying, then drop it.

Over a fucking year without a single fucking piece I was able to take past thumbnail/sketch.
Fuck
I've been desperately trying to finish fucking anything the past week.

I constantly feel like I'm never doing enough
I can spend 12 hours polishing a turd, to learn and to enjoy it, and still feel like I should've spent my time in other ways
I constantly get stuck in comfort zones and feel like I don't even know where to explore any more. Option paralysis. Everything except my comfort zone is too daunting.
I badly wish to improve, and over the past 3 months have noticed pretty good improvement except when it comes to pushing boundaries and getting over thinking "I can never do x/y/z so I'm not even gonna try"
I KNOW I'm not spending enough time, but it's only when I'm in bed about to sleep that I try talk to myself to fix this... "tomorrow it'll be different"
it never is
I have zero faith in myself.

>>3912814
Same, lets try having more faith in ourselves anon. We can pray every morning, noon and at night to ourselves.

Every time I post in beg I get kicked out for ‘not /beg/‘, but the other threads shit on my work. I’m lost and adrift

>>3909967
>>3910020
Is left truly wrong?
what if it's a 400mm lens? there, no big foreshortening involved

How many of you find videogames more fun than art but also want to get good at it? But don't really work much because it's more fun to procrastinate?
How do you fix this mindset or at least cope so you're not self deprecating all the time?

>>3913468
1. Come to the understanding that there is no mindset to fix it
2. set yourself a time goal for a day and do it regardless of how you feel
3. repeat for years
then your mindset will change

>>3907315
/beg/ here.
looks great to me except the leg looks like it's bending in an impossible way.
i know what he was going for, but the hip looks like it's straight, while the lower leg looks like it's at an angle, but it's impossible for the knee to bend that way unless her leg is cut in half.
the rest seems fine to me.

>>3913468
no
ever since I started drawing seriously all vidya just became kind of dull
stop posting shitty bladerunner memes and draw more any you might make it

>>3913468
All I'm looking forward to playing this summer after fucking Uni is over is Sekiro and one month or two revisiting Classic WoW. I feel like they're a complete waste of time when you discover new things that could inspire you in there, a bit like reading a nice book or watching a good movie. A lot of what I like to draw is vidya. That is why I progressively stopped playing these vidyas that repeat content over and over, like LoL and whatnot, there's nothing to gain from those.

>>3913494
I will try

>>3913512
>draw more any you might make it
But that's the whole problem

>>3913527
Apply yourself eslbro

I'm still fairly /beg/ and I've spent 14 hours over the last two days (also working a full-time job unrelated to art) on the same piece, pushing and pulling and correcting things as I move along and learn new things and I've still yet to move past the rough line art state. I'm fairly content with it so far, but it's extremely mentally exhausting and I think I'm spending way too much time on something that should realistically just be a few hours of work.

I'm considering just cutting my losses and abandoning it, but I also have a terribly bad tendency to never finish anything and I don't want to bring that habit into art as well.

>>3913847
Fuck what did I write lmao
I meant I feel less and less like playing vidya in general, especially those like LoL that are basically always the same thing. I think you can still get something out of vidya tho, it can be inspiring.

>>3913940
If it looks finished, just call it. I'm very very similar - beg, spend hours upon hours polishing turds. I figure as long as I learned something in regards to colour or light or just digitally painting it's a success - if it looks aight, even better. The way I look at it 90% of the time doing these pieces is spent experimenting and seeing what works - once you're at the stage where you know what you're doing, the time spent is gonna be spent much better, so even if you still spend 14 hours, you've probably created a much larger, much more detailed piece; and you have the confidence going into it where-as you currently do not.
Just my humble opinion in any case.

>>3912067
>gripping the stylus so hard while drawing that it actually snaps
holy fucking kek

It sucks having to see someone be everything you are and better and then not knowing any clue how to get there. 4 years I've gone from shit to still shit, and barely scratched on digital artwork thanks to irl issues. And when I do get the chance I never use or do anything on practice/should practice on finished drawings since I hate how I just have to start all over again, and drop all of my current habit and knowledge because I fucked up somewhere. Don't bother replying with "pyw" I don't want people seeing my work in this thread/board. Not like anyone cared much before.

What really pisses me off is that every once in a while I actually draw something I'm proud of and it pulls me in again, only to realize I can't replicate it.

>>3905468
*pats*

I hate "artsy" girls who have no actual talent but keep bragging about how they're an """artist""". Like, no. You don't deserve praise for your shitty, stiff, unoriginal, chicken scratch drawing of a girl standing idle. IM an actual fucking artist who tries, YOU just wanna reap the social benefits of the artist label without putting in the effort. If you're a beginner at art THEN YOU SHOULDNT BE TELLING EVERYONE YOURE A GREAT ARTIST. I want to critique the shit out of these bitches until they cry.

it's unfinished iv only been working on it for a few hours....but do I suck i don't get out much and don't show any body my art....but I enjoy it ..so I don't really know if I'm any good

>>3914159
it's a beholder shoe...i forgot to add that and fix the picture lol

>>3914159
It looks beautiful.

I'm incredibly lonely.
>join discords to befriend artists
>finally found a small decent one, except they're 97% begs
>everything seems fine at first except they won't talk to you if you're non-beg like them
>they avoid you like plague on art trades and even basic conversations
>try a different approach
>praise their OCs
>insta-replies, but only whenever you praise them
I'm trying a different way. Instead of going on a simple /ic/ art server, I'll try out servers that aren't totally just art, but still has a connection with art. Like let's say a fandom/niche I'm truly invested in.

>>3914753
>tfw the only reason you reply is so you don't have a random silence at someone calling you out despite trying to go unnoticed because you're so shit

>>3913419
Oh, my bad. I forgot to take into account the hypothetical camera used as a reference to the perspective in the drawing. [spoiler] /s

JESUS SOMEONE SLAP ME AND TELL ME TO FUCKING DRAW I HAVE SPENT DAYS WITHOUT DRAWING BECAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE TRASH

I RIPPED A PAGE OUT OF A HARDBOUND SKETCHBOOK AND THOSE THREADS ARE SHOWING IN ONE OF THE PAGES AND I WANT TO KILL MYSELF.

OCD REEEEEE

>>3914762
Oh fuck anon I know what you are talking about. The three binding strings. I did that a while ago and the who book fell apart like magic. I was so pissed that I jad to buy a new one, but hey 100 loose sheets lol

>>3914757
EVEN IF YOU'RE BEG, IF I'M TRYING TO BEFRIEND YOU THEN YOU'RE NOT SHIT TO ME. I WOULDN'T TRY TO GET CLOSE IF I THINK YOU'RE SHIT AAAAAAAAHHHHHH

>>3914753
that sounds baffling to me. why would they go out of their way to avoid talking to you? there must be something you're missing here.

>>3914769
It's not as uncommon as you think. It's either that or the other far extreme of them putting you on a pedestal and heckling you for praise on their /beg/ shit. Feelsbad being intermediate

>>3914768
>someone actually wants to befriend /beg/ you
What timeline have I slipped into?

>>3914772
i've never heard of /beg/s ganging up on someone just because they weren't at the same skill level. i still think there's something else you're not seeing, but never underestimate how tribalistic humans can be i guess...

>>3914773
yeah if you seem genuinely interested in being friends, that's how it usually works

>>3914788
Oh, trust me. Ive joined a few art servers and people either avoided me, begged me to 'teach them', or degraded their own art for compliments

>>3914797
What did you do to the ones that wanted to be taught?

>>3914808
Gave them fake brush settings and premade tutorials I made for friends

These are the best pens on the entire planet, and I've used a wide variety of different stuff, nothing comes close, and they don't sell the fine black version individually anywhere.

I was never big into online drawing with others, but it's kinda sad to see iscribble dead and drawpile desolate.
How am I now supposed to find a drawfag gf, I hate club activities and shit.

>>3905672
iktf bro
like that anon who responded said, making a definitive schedule of things you need to do is really helpful. If you have nothing to do, then honestly just say fuck the things you need to do and go all in on what you want to do.

>>3906116
is there any way to get something to help you draw that doesn't tweak your neck? Like making it stand up or something? Idk how the neck works

>>3906738
I feel that. I was starting to do that for a time, and then I got appendicitis and it wrecked my flow. This week has been the first time I've drawn in like a month. I wish I could just seclude and git gud, but I have responsibilities and shit I need to do, and I feel like I'm half-assing both my responsibilities and my drawing.

>>3905382
Hugboxes are a mistake that throw people into a cycle of accepting mediocrity and not knowing what mirrors are.
Everyone is genuinely better off without those.

>>3908501
it's not that simple
t. guy who used to live in a city that wasn't hiring outside of highly specialized jobs

>>3915416
How do you feel about /ic/, then, the extreme opposite of a hugbox?

>>3915426
It's almost great but the community has shrunk to the point that anons won't get much information to digest.
The ideals of this place hold up in strengthening the artist, motivating them to prove themselves worthy of love. Preparation that is much needed for the world outside the parents' home.

Fuck my art is so bad and I hate myself so much

>>3915430
>motivating them to prove themselves worthy of love

holy shit man, you ok bro? do you have people you can talk to outside the internet?
That some Tier 1 loser talk right there anon.
Hope you find love in yourself by yourself my man.
take it easy

>>3914242
thank you very much

All I react to is easy instant gratification. I tell myself every day that I'm going to break this incestuous cycle of being a garbage human, follow my dream of being an artist and all that, but I never take the first step. For art, for school, for relations, everything. All my life, all I ever did was failing, not because ever I fucked up somewhere, but because I never even started trying. After all, my missteps never really had consequences... Not yet anyways, but I feel it's coming to get and punish me if I keep this up. It's been this way for so long, I don't know how to make it stop.

>>3905382
I cant fucking paint. Watercolors work fine for me be I have never managed a single even mediocre acrylic painting ever. I try intermittently but I still can't seem to understand shit and it's starting to drive me crazy.

>>3905803
>>3915407
Thanks, anons. I'll do it.

>>3908321
Dimedog?

>>3905382
WHY IS IT SO HARD TO DRAW MEN

ALL I WANT TO DO IS DRAW HANDSOME MEN BUT THEY LOOK LIKE SHIT

THIS SHOULDN'T BE SO HARD

>>3915529
You have to get hurt. Healing isn't easy or instantaneous. It takes time and hurts all the way until it's done.

I always thought vent threads are for gay people. I'm gay before it was cool and I'm not always seething so vent thread are for losers. Losers

When I get stressed out about life stuff I find it really hard to get into drawing.
I think I'm always "making mountains out of mole hills".
I try to take it easy with everything so I can get back on track,

but I'm afraid that what separates me from successful people is that when bad things happen to them, they don't take time to slow down or sulk and procrastinate, they don't take it easy, they just suffer through the pain while they work.

>>3914152
I hate this too.

But I also really hate any gender that just draws pretty girls, qt 3.14 waifu type stuff over and over again in whatever anime, realistic or trendy style at the time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tlxh4zWoc3w

>find this girl on Youtube
>feel like she's kind of a lot like me in similar ways
>looks kind of like me, dirty blonde hair, longish face, same nose, down turned eyes, bigger front teeth
>but is much much prettier and more well put together
>does similar art to me, we both love backgrounds, she's a background painter, I truly want to be a background painter
>she lives in LA, which I refuse to move out of my little town
>I think we are even the same age
>relate to her talking about how animated movies really meant a lot to her and getting bullied for it as a kid

>basically, feel oddly like this woman is a better version of myself, almost a doppelganger, and am kind of beating myself up for it

>dig through box in my closet
>find and old hard drive for my laptop I had back in high school
>reinstall the drive to said laptop
>boot it up, log into my account
>same password I use today is what was the password
>files files files everywhere stuff I've forgotten, piles of sorted images, music, etc more than what I have on my current PCs


Holy fuck I was more of a nerd back then than I am now. How did this part of me get scrubbed from my brain? It's like I was MKultrad and forgotten everything.

>>3917696
And the photos are of fetishes I don't even remember having. It's like a completely different persons hard drive. Like damn.

Why do normies do this?

>>3917887
kek
I feel bad for this guy

>>3905426
"I know I'm good" is the fastest way to kill your progress. You're probably just not inspired, go do something else and come back to it.

One of my favorite artists has completely stagnated due to selling out. Now look, I know artists need to make money, fuck, I need to make money. But every single thing this artist draws is part of a very specific aesthetic that sells that they NEVER deviate from. It's getting so tiresome. Their work used to be so vibrant and now it's got the same trendy colors in every single picture and product they produce. I miss their old work. I read an interview with them and they even admitted they had to narrow down their style to fit the widest audience possible for the dosh. I personally blame capitalism as the root cause.

>>3908321
trust me, they didn't spend much time on it. headshots in that angle are the easiest thing to ever draw. And it's a rough sketch on paper.

>>3917960
>I personally blame capitalism
Blame the simple reality that people put different worth on different things

>drew a lot until i was like 18, was frequent online
>got really nasty "criticism" over the course of a week one time and let that get to me for some reason
>gave up entirely
>debate about picking it up again after nearly a decade

>>3917960
Yet another case of sakimchi syndrome. Sorry for your loss anon.
Though
>capitalism bad >:(

>>3917960
>I personally blame capitalism as the root cause.
You mean the thing that allows them to make art for you as a profession instead of govt appointed manual labor? Interesting thought but I don't really follow.

>>3917986
>got really nasty "criticism" over the course of a week one time and let that get to me for some reason
Did you spend a week on /ic/?

>>3917960
>I personally blame capitalism as the root cause.
Literal brainlet

If he truly had something to say and really felt that he had to say it then he obviously wouldn't have chosen the path of least resistance to resources and it's kind of shitty that you're more upset that you aren't getting catered to rather than an artist who you say you admire finding success and stability with a hard earned skill in a competitive market.

I broke up with my artist ex and miss her terribly. I basically just accepted that I'll be alone for the rest of my life regardless of what everyone tells me. I plan on dying alone and I honestly expect her to be the last thing I ever think about.

It's so bad you could even call it a fantasy honestly. I can't wait for the day its just fucking over.

It's like every night I say thank fuck I can't possibly hurt anymore than I do now. Then I wake up alone again and realize that I hate my life even more than when I went to sleep.

>>3918020
Why did ya break up with her?

>>3918020
>Giving a shit about a Roastie that is having a dick casserole with Tyrone and friends only to hit a dead end in her 30's to become a crazy cat lady.
boofuckinghoo.

>>3918021
I fucked up.

I told myself I was going to start posting my art online this year to try and start socializing more, but I'm too self conscious of the shit I draw to go through with it. I think I'm clinging to this mindset of "I can draw whatever niche, cringy shit I want and no one can make fun of me as long as I'm gud enough."

I've never had to do anything difficult in my life apart from trying to draw and I don't even know how to begin to approach it let alone let myself have fun. I don't draw enough to improve and don't improve enough to want to draw. I'm too shitty to ask people for any meaningful help and so many of my mistakes are due to laziness. I want structure but learning art is fucking nebulous and involved. I wish I could let myself have fun. I want to die

>>3918020
>he has literally every moment of his day to dedicate to himself
>complaining about some open wound that talks

>>3917696
iktf hardcore bro. Finding an old phone and seeing all the shit I cared about is weird.

It's Ramadan tomorrow, aka a whole month where fuck-all gets done but hey at least YHVH might send me to hell
Fuck this shit

I miss when I could feel inspiration instead of comparing myself to others. God it's like once you start doing that it's like a fucking cancer and it never fucking stops, just that nagging thought of 'You could never draw that' or 'You can never be that creative'

>>3919537
Goodluck brother

modernists, postmodernists, and brutalists need to get gassed on a chamber. Fuck them and their shit philosophies

>>3919758
Hey Brutalist architecture can be cool anon

>>3919758
Agreed. Everything went to shit after the 30s.

MOM GO AWAY IMMA PRACTICE DRAWING LOLI PRONS AND PNROS IN GENERAL

I'm starring at a blank canvas and can't start. Send help.

Having a mental breakdown and burning some of my art. yikes. redflags. lul

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90tt382o1kY [Embed]

My tumblr: https://pastelcronenberg.tumblr.com/archive

I don't know what to do with my life. I'm dumb, so I can't pursue a career that would make money and I only like drawing anyway. I just want to give up on everything and draw, but I feel like I'll regret not going to college either for art or something unrelated...

>be me
>complete hiki neet who's only social interaction is anonymous message boards (no not even discords)
>worked up the courage not only to go out of my cave, but go to an art atelier two weeks ago
>I think everyone thought I was highly autistic because I barely managed to speak and was constantly avoiding looking at people, and just basically huddled in a corner pretended to be very focused on my painting
>today is typical atelier day
>suddenly I hear "hey what's your name" in a cute russian accent
>I lift my face up from my drawing only to see it's 10cm away from an incredibly attractive blond girl smiling at me
>manage to mumble my name
>she smiles and asks if I know proko
>I mumble that I do because I saw the memes of him here although I never actually watched any of his vids I assume he must've shown some block-in and construction work because I was doing that with a plaster foot-cast
>she says in her way too cute russian accent "it is hard learn, good luck"
>can't look at her but mumble "thanks" whilst really wanting to ask her name or keep the conversation going
>fail to do either
>later she comes back and compliments my drawing, I mumble thanks again and once again fail to say anything back or even look at her

God damnit I hate myself so much fuck fuck fuck. The worse about this is that she probably forgot I existed the second I walked out of the room, but I will remember her face and her talking to me for the next 2 years of my life because that will probably be the only time a young girl spoke to me in that time. Why am I such a fuck up why do I feel like there is a glass wall between me and the actual normal social world people live in. Everyone in the atelier thinks I'm some focused associal brooding person who doesn't have time to spare on anything else other than my studies, but it's not true I would love to talk to them and open up I just genuinely fucking can't

>>3905382
Yeah, I have a vent. I'm married to the biggest unmotivateable loser in the world.

>>3920545
Are you 'murican?
If there's no debt going into it, you have nothing to lose. Else, I'd seriously considering just drawing.

>>3920581
Your right hand?

I've been having trouble getting out of bed lately. My body feels sore all over and it all hurts so bad. I have so much work to do in the next 4 weeks but I don't know how I can finish it all when every day I wake up feeling worse. ;-; Pretty worried something is wrong but I don't really have the money to go to the doctor

Why the fuck is my left(not dominate) wrist hurting so much after sessions? Like the most it's ever doing is clicking Z... I could Draw for hours, jerk off, and play smash with no problem with my right, but if i trying get out of bed by pushing up with my left it goes in flames. Am I not suppose to have my hand on Z all the time? Are they're better ways to support my wrist before I get carpal tunnel in my 20s?

>>3920854
Do carpal tunnel exercises on it. If people can get carpal tunnel by playing games 10 hrs a day, you can get it by pressing ctrl+z.

I threw out all of my 2014-2017 sketchbooks yesterday.

>>3917699
I got a similar feeling finding an old flash drive with a bunch of albums I use to listen to. I went through playing most of the music thinking 'why did I like this stuff?'

I am having a panic attack over a comic I am trying to make and I don't even have posted anything about it, man I'm pathetic.

>>3921385
What's wrong about it, anon?

>>3915490
It's kinda true, though? One has to work at being worthy of being called an "artist". That's the way the art world works.

>>3920213
Make an horizontal line, imagine an old Spanish ship, then magic happens.

>>3921397
It may be the way it works, but it shouldn't be. It's cold and superficial, and above all detracts from the individual and individuality. You like your niche, right? The difference between tough love and bullying is having a real vested interest in the outcome. Otherwise, whatever you say has and shouldnt have weight. Because who tf are you to decide how tough or innocent or even ambitious someone should be when you have no common direction?
That being said, I'd personally love nothing more than a bond like that that was mutual and framed in the right way. I think a lot of people would.

>>3905382
Felt like shit the past few days since I'm a retard who thought people cared about me at all when really I'm just a way to kill time or something, I don't even know any more but I matter so LITTLE to people even my family
Usually I'm incapable of feeling down for long but this lasts, and I was just getting more and more bitter and sad and angry at myself

Then last night before bed I just listened to one of those ambient rain videos and slowly drew trees in my sketchbook, and so much stress and tension fell off me it made me cry
I think there's something wrong with me and don't think I'll ever have true friends or anything more, but I'm going to keep finding some peace in my trees

>>3921456
I feel a bit in the same bag, anon. Maybe it's because I'm too introvert or have a shit personality without realising it, but I'm losing the few friends I have, and even with them I couldn't really connect.
But it's alright, at the end of the day you still have your passions to sink time and emotions into, it can be a constant in your life, so better stick to it and try bettering it, and yourself.

>>3921456
It's going to be ok anon

>>3921456
It's possible anon don't give up hope. Iktf

I'm one of those artists who constantly daydreams about how cool it would be to create an amazing passion project while also being completely incapable of actually creating it, and it's been slowly killing me for years.

I don't have a decade of free time to devote to creating a webcomic, I'm terrible at writing narratives in any capacity, and I'm an indecisive, perfectionist wreck of a human that can't commit to world-building or character details to save his life. Cute girls are the only thing I'm even vaguely good at drawing and they're the only thing my followers care about seeing- they don't give a shit if I go the extra thousand miles to come up with a story or not. Attempting to do such a thing is, objectively speaking, an absolutely horrible idea and a gigantic waste of time.

Yet I still can't shake the feeling that I have to do it. I don't know how to do it, I don't know what form it should take, but I know that to give it up would be to deny the reason I started drawing in the first place. The more I fumble around, half-heartedly planning things out but never actually starting, the worse I feel about myself and about the odds of things ever working out. Now I'm just a ball of self-doubt and unwarranted ambition who's desperate for creative fulfillment and doesn't have a single fucking idea how to get it

>>3921534
I feel your pain, Anon. I've also wanted to do the same thing (except with cute boys instead of cute girls), and I have a little world in my head.

The problem is translating it to the page and getting started. I know I'm not as good as I should be (doubly shameful as I went to school for art), and that's why I've begun posting here.

Here's to our dreams: may they be fulfilled.

>>3905382
I noticed when I drew myself realistically I don’t look as bad as I thought I did but then I realized I just fucked up my proportions and forgot some small details. Im going back to drawing pretty girls now.

>>3905420
Man it's so far beyond slightly douchey. Especially if you effected their chance of getting the uni they wanted. What a cunt move. Hope you apologize

>>3921534
Could always just start doing characters from a shared world as if you were just doing a series of peices with a common theme. People will imagine Thier own stories. And it may bring out some inspiration from you to actually work on something larger.

>can't render for shit
I'll keep practicing, but man I'm getting burnt out.

>>3921534
>>3921552
Both of you have my support too. Totally get where you're coming from.

>>3921552
cute boys are good too

>>3921576
I've been doing that for a long time and it mostly just feels like doing fan art for some series that doesn't exist. at some point you have to wonder what the point is if you're never going to actually sit down and create the "canon" for this stupid series you keep going on about. but at the same time, I've got no idea how to do that so instead i just come off as some pretentious dude who takes his shitty ideas too seriously

>>3905420
Ught thats so fucking slimy. No judge tho, I used to be a real piece of shit too. The worst part is that I thought I was the good guy.

>>3905468
Keep going anon, people like you make the best frens. Suffering makes you not boring.

>>3907315
I hate this. I mean it arguably looks good but I fucking hate this soulless shit so much.

I fucking hate Instagram. I scan my stuff and I try to make it look presentable, but it ends up looking like a blurry mess when I upload it. I know it's designed to be looked at on tiny phone screens but it drives my neurotic ass up the fucking wall.
What other options do I have? I want to put it on my own website eventually, but I gotta promote my shit in some way. Is Twitter good for posting art?

Just a minute ago I had a chat with my aunt that came to visit, and when she asked about my life I told her that I've been learning to draw for a few years, so she interrupted me and told me that one of his grandsons participated in an art contest a few months ago, and he actually won, first price, so he's currently in Russia studying on one of their schools, all paid.
The thing is that nobody knew he was so good because he never painted until he moved out of my aunt's house last year, where he started doing it as a hobby. Supposedly he's crazy good, and he has been making money on the side since then, painting realistic portraits and landscapes for his coworkers and some rich people he knows. Like wtf. And that's not all, the guy doesn't want to make art for a living because he has a job that leaves him a shitton of money for a single guy in his 20s. God.
My father after hearing all that was like "and you can't even pay a fucking bill with your art" but he didn't say thing. He was getting teary like embarrassed and disappointed of having me as a son lol.

I don't know.
I want to meet the guy so bad, yet at the same time I don't.
I want to see his work. I wanna see if he is as good as she said, I wanna know if I can compete. I wanna know if I have what it takes. I wanna know if I should just quit and kill myself. Fucking hell I'm seething.

>>3921747
You should be on both Insta and Twitter and post your art in both websites.
>>3922034
Fuck yea man go see him, not everyone can meet successful artists like that.
Keep your expectations low but you might learn a thing or two from this guy.

No friends at all ( neither irl or online )
My anxiety is making me lose my hair.
I have jealousy when i see those bullshit artist get 30K followers by posting 1 pic a month
Too proud to ask for help

I want to scream and break everything in my room but i'll probably just masturbate and go to bed

>>3913468
right now im actually having so much fun with drawing I dont wanna play games, im burned out on them and drawing shitty porn for my 100 followers that dont care about me is kinda fun but its so frustrating to see other people shit out good things, I know they put in more effort/time into this but fucking shit I wanna be good at somethign in my life

>>3918370
dude I can draw whatever I want without being made fun of even though I suck, besides /ic/ pretty much nooone talks shit about your drawings which is kinda bad for critiques and stuff

There are faggots out there who can spend their entire day drawing.

I don't fucking care about Hohhman Transfers and Apogees
why am I studying this shit fuck

>post art online infrequently for a couple years
>no attention
>eventually start posting more, do fanart
>kinda sellout, but it’s niche enough that it’s tolerable
>get a mediocre sized following
>moderately known for my niche in the community
>find friends, am happy drawing
>burn myself out after about two years
>take a month’s break
>my interest change, excited about OC stuff, but too afraid to post and see people disinterested compared to my fanart
>it’s been months since I’ve posted anything
>but drawing more than i ever have
I’m disappointing my followers by not posting anything, but I feel like I’ll disappoint them more by posting shit they didn’t sign up for, and I don’t know how to stop being a pussy and just start posting art again. I should have never chased the dopamine from internet attention and just kept at my OC stuff. I should just nuke it all and start over

>>3922121
>could spend entire days drawing
>don't
Reading posts like yours make me feel like a terrible person. I'll now go ahead and draw.
I hope things turn out okay for you.

>>3905574
shit, i can relate to that anon, drawing is the only thing ive ever seen myself doing for the rest of my life. but after pushing myself to do it for hours everyday for almost 2 years ive just gotten sick of it, but i dont have anything else i want to do with my time either. ive grown to hate the one option i had for myself

i regret nothing
fuck you

>>3922275
based and gmi

I didn't want to believe it, but I think I'm falling into depression again. I'm fucking scared, man.

I hope I can get myself out of this. I want to be an artist, but for that I need to draw more first.

I have lots of stories I'd like to tell with my art but no idea how or even where to go with it and have been caught in this cycle of wanting to but not doing due to being stuck for years now.
I also feel that whenever I actually got to it, it'd be instantly put down since it's not championing any liberal issues anyway within the stories since that's all I tend to find artist wise around me. While I do actually fall into certain minority groups (race and genderwise), I'm conservative leaning and am not a fan of talking politics or even using my "oppressed" status to get places since it seems very ingenuine for me. I just want to make things that both encourage people and brings them smiles in the end, I'm just not sure what to do.

>>3906362
what is an "intensive portfolio class?" how do i sign up for one?

I practice.
I know what i need to learn
Stop saying the same fucking thing.
I will never ask for help again, you won't help me.
Everyone pisses me off now,
none you guys have motivation and are too "depressed".
you use it as a fucking excuse
I know what i'm supposed to do.
don't say anything to me if you're not being helpful,
you're just pissing me off.
I fucking hate this

>>3922565
I think your heart is in the right place anon. Try deciding on a subject you feel strongly about(love, loneliness, victorian-era fashion, etc etc etc) and using storytelling to explore it. Think of something you wish you could let everyone know.

It's pretty obvious when a story isn't being genuine, but by the same token it's also easy to tell when an artist puts their heart into something

>>3905382
I feel like I have this idea of what I want to be as an artist. I work at it every day. My progress started late, but I know I'm making it.

Every day that I'm not reaching that ideal, however, I feel like a failure. I feel like time is passing me by and I don't know how much longer I can spend working towards a dream that I haven't made any real, tangible progress towards.

I'm nearing my mid-20s and I just haven't had that one success to make me feel like I'm doing the right thing. I'm jobless, totally lacking in connections, and constantly fighting off the feeling that I'm wasting my time. Maybe i'm delusional, but I feel like you have to be in order to succeed, sometimes.

I can't give up, because I know that if I did, I'd truly be a failure.

>submitted a watercolor painting for a college art show
>the art professors stuck it in the bottom of a corner of the gallery
>big pedestal with ceramics on it is blocking it from being visible at all
>the one piece of art next to it that can be seen is a collage of redrawn twitter memes titled "depression" some zoomer made

>>3922294
Gimme your discord anon.

>>3922121
But you'll make money

>>3922098
I'm not just talking about /ic/ mate, I'm talking about putting it up anywhere. My biggest fear with showing people my art is that the shit I draw might end up in some DeviantArt-tier mock cringe gallery.

Side note (asking all anons this): At what point did you reach with your art that you started feeling comfortable posting it? Should someone only start uploading their shit if they're at a certain skill level, or what?

>>3923454
i started posting it months after i started drawing, basically when i was a complete beginner. the only person who can say when you should start uploading is you, from my experience ive only received positive reception, made plenty of new friends, and havent been in any cringe galleries that i know of (even if a few of the things ive made should be in one). you might as well start posting it now rather than later, if you want to build a following than it helps to have a headstart

>>3923454
I pretty much meant what the other guy said. most people online will ignore you or say something nice, /ic/ being the only place where you actually get mocked

and yeah I just posted from the beginning, why not

>>3905382
I fucking hate uni and I fucking hate my career and I fucking hate my life and Im sure I'll fucking hate my job. The only thing I enjoy is drawing shit but I lack the time and fucking energy to get better at the peace I would like so Im stuck at this fucking cycle where I just get frustrated and stop drawing becouse Its all shit. God I would like to just be able to practice and practive everyday every hour but that fucking career just drains all my will to keep living, it got me so fucking depressed last year that I couldnt get out of bed and everything in my life just kept getting more and more fucked up. I notice that everytime I stop drawing I end up falling into a depression sooner or later and the fucking happy pills dont even work anymore. Just let me be a fucking artist its all I want oh god time keeps passing and younger people are already better than me at what is supposed to be my fucking passion what the actual fuck I feel so bad

>>3922732
>Think of something you wish you could let everyone know.
It feels like simple advice but I don't feel like I've really heard it phased like this before (probably since I tend to overthink things like this without meaning to), so thank you. There's one subject I feel very sincerely about that came to mind so I'm going to see where I can take it with all this in mind.

>>3923741
I feel this so hard... Had to quit my Master's program cause of illness. Still on medical leave but feeling well enough to work. Just can't find a fucking job for the life of me. So depressing and I have all this time to make art but it can be so hard to do anything more than an hour or two AGH

>>3923435
Hada#6278
I'm generally a big dork, don't get your hopes up.

>>3922034
I don't know if it will make you feel better, but I had a similar experience and when I got to see his work and it was good but not great, and I realized he was just good at networking and socializing, things that I, and most d/ic/ks are likely poor at.

>>3923741
What are you studying anon?