/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

what's the discord like? i ask because i figure i'm never going to join

>>3899574
shit
pure, unadulterated shit

>>3899592
basically every discord ever

>>3899565
when drawing, must the eyes always be same height or level with each other no matter if the head is turned slightly to the side or facing fully onward? this is something that confuses me because some artists makes the farther eye (assuming the head is in 3/4 rotation to the side) smaller than the closest eye to the viewer while some don't. And also if you look at OP's pic, Yoh Yoshinari doesn't even make the eyes totally same size or same height. If we take a line guideline on top of the facial features, the eyes and iris are uneven.

or is it that when drawing anime, you don't really need total accuracy with the guidelines, so long as it's pretty then it'll be alright?

>>3899681
Perfection is overrated. So long as the face is expressive, no one is going to take rulers at it to make sure it's 1:1 with imaginary guidelines.

>>3899565
My wife Mako looks so sexy and cute in this picture, anons...

Can you recommend me a program for generating 3d model references besides Design Doll?

>>3899707
Csp

>>3899707
Depends what you are looking for. What feature do you want that is not available on DD?

>>3899750
I dont see much muscles in DD if you ask me

waaa i want to bind my middle mouth button to be the move tool but smelly Clip Studio wont let meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

>>3899752
you can get muscly figures in DD just fine, but anatomy is never really its strongest suite.
so if you want some more accuracy with anatomy try Daz Studio. beware you still need to fix a lot of wonkiness though, but it's a good start

>>3899758
Thanks anon

Hit me doc, how terminal is it? I tried taking some pointers from the moe books in the mega and feel I ended up with something that didn't completely fill me with disgust.

109 stuff

>>3899820
you say moe, but do you actually mean you're trying to go for absolute wide face hidamari chibi style? because that's what I'm kinda seeing here. There's also a kind of old style look, too. It's not so bad. I wish you at least completed the body.

re up

>>3899820
cute

>>3899829
When I say moe books I mean I used
>(神吉) How to Draw - Moe Chibi
>(宮月もそこ) Moe Character Drawing Basic Techniques
for pointers. The former seems to be more a bit on the late 00's (Hidamari Sketch/Kanon/Lucky Star) side and the latter has a more modern style.

I tried to finish it and do a full body but I literally cannot draw bodies yet. I only graduated from Loomis FWaP potato men a couple of days ago, just wanted to try drawing something cute for a change.

>>3899820
w i d e

>>3899838
well okay, if we're going by that then i'd say you do alright with front-facing chibi heads

>>3899832
About your drawing: I'm very hot in my room because of the sun facing my window, I'm actually really sweaty now and I'm not enjoying myself.

>>3899844
i just practiced with 109's stuff
line working with photoshop is bit painful

>>3899820
needs more eyebrows

>>3899846
Thank you so much for this, it's amazing how much of a difference the thinner neck and the more voluminous hair makes.

>>3899756
literally what's wrong with holding v to move the canvas then letting go

>>3899681
perspective is that farther eye should be slightly smaller and shorter. in anime, farther eye is taller than it should be in perspective and sometimes wider than it should be in perspective.

>>3899929
cute ebichu

Update desu

>>3899949
Watch proko's Loomis videos, do the exercises, then adjust the size and shape of the facial features. There is a reason why your drawing looks flat. It's because it is flat.

>>3899917
interesting

Tried different anime styles, it was a fun exercise, as someone who usually doesn't draw anime

>>3900054
bottom is best, but left has potential if tweaked

>>3900054
left and bottom and severely lacking in cranium. lines too thick too everywhere

>>3900054
thinner lines=more anime

>>3900065
>>3900066
>>3900082
Thanks for your advice, i usually draw french style with thick lines, i'm not used to work with thinner lines. Also yeah, i noticed i have trouble drawing full craniums for some reason.

>>3900196
Did you draw this, anon?

>>3900231
Probably not

Anyone has great anime expression sheets to learn from?
Kinda tired of writing "anime "anger/sorrow/etc" expression face" on google
the results are usually /beg/ too

>>3900261
Just watch any 20 minute episode of any anime in the style you enjoy and keep pausing on interesting expressions.
If you're not actually watching anime, how can you ever expect to draw it?

Already have a basis on anatomy drawing.
Wonder why sketching this one is so hard.

>>3900429
Try constructing the anatomy over it first before doing it side by side so you'll have an idea how it looks

>>3900429
update.
>>3900441
thanks, I kinda tried that already beforehand

>>3899707
Easy poser don't think too hard about it all 3d posing is flawed in some way and real figures aren't too flexible

>>3899820
She's cute draw for the wwd

>>3900261
They don't exist well I have a lot but you have to make your own and doing it fast and organized is probably too much work for most people and figuring out how is a whole other problem

>>3900261
there is "Draw with Digital Tools (facial expressions)" in the OP mega

i’m having trouble understanding the construction of this face. what angle or perspective is this?

>>3900914

>>3900568
Nice thanks
there's so much material on the mega but so little time to learn it all

>>3900261
Learn to use tags on booru

Could anybody lend me a hand with this practice sketch I made? I know that the hand that's extended forward looks a bit off and maybe the leg on the right, but other than that could anyone give some pointers?

>>3899574
The discord is God awful. It's like the blind leading the blind on there. Everyone on there is absolute garbage

>>3901180
Got more shit done and more advice on the discord than in any of these threads.

FINALLY kinda UNDERSTOOD ANIME HAIR!!

and perhaps hair in general

>>3901219
idk Sakura's hair is easy to get lost into.

>>3899565
Any tutorials to achieve retro looking manga anime? I feel like I've watched every tutorial. I think what I'm majorly lacking is texture to make my art look distressed and weathered.

I'm trying to draw this oni, and so far I'm okay with everything but the hands

I'm so bad at hands, even with a reference I'm clueless

>>3901293
why is she so old?

>>3901306
She's a mommy oni

>>3901104
Left leg is a bit short, if you curl up it should reach around your armpit level. And I'm not sure what's happening with his left arm, the length of the upper arm seems fine apparently relative to his ribcage but then the forearm keeps going.

>>3901180
Lol, ass hurt because you got kicked.

>>3901456
Not him but I'm still inside. It is god awful

>>3901501
Admin here.
We do voice chats, gift drawings to each other and yesterday we did one of those "guess what's the drawing" online games.
It's been pretty solid so far but you have to engage with the other users in order to get that.
Post art, ask for critiques, just chat, etc.

And if you have a problem with the quality of the server either leave or write it there.
But I guess you'd have to do more than just lurk, and being social might be too hard for you.

>>3901567
>Admin here.
Ok retard

>>3901580
caww me names daddi

>>3901567
I'm mostly talking about the quality of artwork. Like the other guy said, it's blind leading the blind. Everyone's beg tier except for a few ones like the hardstone guy or some who seldom posts. Aqua isn't even that good. The rest are cringe tier who wanted quick shortcuts to draw porn of their waifus.

>>3901589
What would you say Aqua needs to improve on?
Asking for a friend.

>>3901593
Your figures are too stiff, aqua. You might benefit from doing yoshinari or krenz studies, or anything with dynamic poses. I find your pieces kinda bland 2bh. If you want to continue doing static poses, you might wanna consider drawing them in different angles other than a frontfacing view

>>3901604
I have had that problem for a while and haven't found a way out! I'm aware my stuff looks really stiff and have been trying to loosen up.
The biggest issue I've noticed is I keep forgetting to use curves the gesture lines, and keep playing it safe in terms of colors.
Thank you for the suggestions, I will study them!

>>3900568
IT NOT ENGLISH

>>3901219

>>3901911

Kinda hard to read about still incredible. Source?

>>3901917
@yoso901 on twitter, he has more tutorials I believe but i only have that one and one for drawing hands

>>3900429
can you post ref?

>>3901194
you mean the advice from aqua? lmao his advice are stupid. If you're a beg, the best place you can get advice from is from people in intermediate and above. You just have to stomach the disses they push to you. They'll kick and throw you off the ship repeatedly for being beg, but they're the ones who can help you, not this pathetic discord. Aqua is kind and all, but his advice is lacking. If you don't see that then either you are a baby who is okay with love taps that doesnt help, or just plain blind because of your low skill level. Ever wonder why the people who are actually skilled in that discord just dump and leave? and those that don't just chat briefly in chat, not crit.

>>3901610
Good luck aqua kun

>>3901593
Hi aqua. I don't hate you at all, I think your patience is actually rad for a mod and I like what you've done to people who don't even draw, but to start off, your forms are looking flat. You can sometimes give okay-ish advice, but do you know that you also suffer from the same issues the people you crit also suffers from? So anyway, not only are they flat, but you also do 1 step forward, 2 steps back. Your Shantae artwork is one of your currently better ones, but after that is just Komm süßer Tod with the anatomy and everything. You really need to go hard on whatever anatomy books you're holding on to. And whenever you give advice to people, you give out advice that only fixes 1% of the whole problem in their beg art. There's a giant elephant in the room you don't point that out in their art, and I don't know if you do that to be nice or to not overwhelm them, but it isn't helping. You should do something to help them - the biggest help being referring them to PDFs of wordless anatomy books the moment they join since everyone in there hates reading, but wants to git gud.

>>3901967
Thank you for the insight!

I do know I'm not that great at art myself, but I'm always aiming to improve. I also noticed been days where I noticed my art's been better then next week it's all weak art from me, and I'm trying to figure out why that is.

My critiques recently have been shorter because you have to understand, I've been giving advice on the server for more than a year now and it gets tiresome to repeat the same "nose is too high, eyes too far apart, work on anatomy" every two times a week, so I try to pay attention to the mistakes that aren't as visible to the artist, and assume they already know what else to study up on.
It also doesn't help that I'm monitoring the server during the time I could be drawing.

Also I took some time to clean up that tutorial that was posted yesterday here, it was hard to read so I wanted to facilitate that.

>>3902188
I didn't find it hard to read at all but cool

>>3902188
Thanks

alright:
observational study of one of yoh yoshinari's sketches.

Some things I noticed:
-head too squished horizontally
-too much reliance
-several body parts have more exaggerated proportions and are less stiff in the original than in the study, demonstrating lack of confidence from my part.

Overall a decent start but I still fell into the mistake of playing it safe.

>>3902291
>4 ears

>>3902421
>perspective

>>3902539
The perspective is fine though?

>>3902543
I get what he meant, the feet aren't placed in the ground properly and both the arm and foot to our left in the study aren't amplified properly according to the perspective.

>>3899644
I'm in love.

Can I join the discord if I'm /beg/ tier?

>>3902840
everyone in there is /beg/ tier

>>3902840
Even the mods don't know how to draw, don't sweat it.

>>3902919
kek

>>3899565
Honestly my favorite thing about the thread is the Japanese book/reference collection MEGA link in the OP post. Thanks for that whoever helped collect all those books!

>>3900985
Cute misakanons, you're getting there I guess

>>3902919
aqua is a nigger

>>3903652
aqua got norted

Just drew this, any crits?

>>3903749
lookin good

>>3903749
you left your constructions for the eye placement on the drawing

How am i doing?

>>3903817
I want to kiss her!!

>>3903817
trad media and hopefully not traced
definitely gmi

I don't know if it's been posted before here, but here's a danbooru image pool group with several topics including art tutorials, different styles and pose references.

https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts?tags=pool_group%3Aeducational

>>3903749
kek

>>3904111
I thought the how_to tag is their only tutorial section. Didn't know this exists, thanks bud

>>3904137
no problem!

There's also the making-of-available tag that shows artwork that has a gif or link available showing the process.

https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts?tags=making-of_available

>>3900196
Cool colors and style! I stole it.

>>3903749
Is the new one punch man season any good? is it atleast decent compared to first season?

>>3903817
I really like these. These are like Studio Trigger drawings

>>3904659
Duh.

>>3903817
Pretty fresh anon. You should try doing some of these without reference and see how you draw on your own.

How can I import a MMD file to blender and export to CSP as a fbx file?

>>3904828
to import to blender it's this addon:

https://github.com/powroupi/blender_mmd_tools/releases

If I remember well, that's the tool I used back then.

>can't draw for shit without references
I'm tired, guys.

How good would you all say "How to Draw Manga 42: Drawing Yaoi" is aside from it's funny name?

Trace more anime

>>3905111
Ok

So is anyone here doing the "draw on 1000 sheets a year to improve" thing ?

>>3903822
same
>>3904109
Nice to read that i've been drawing for like 4-5 years and i'm finally sure that i can do something with that.
>>3904659
yeah thats what im trying to purse, drawing same character in multiple angles/actions and this sheets are great stuff to study from
>>3904715
I'm drawing from imagination lot of time and its not bad lately, or you mean to draw that exact character and its absolutely great idea!

Thanks anons i'm having hard times with my life lately and this comments made me smile.

ugh

>>3904111
>>3904153
lmao don't use that shit, it's awful.
https://www.pixiv.net/howto
https://www.pixiv.net/howto/category/1
https://www.pixiv.net/howto/category/2
https://www.pixiv.net/howto/category/4
https://www.pixiv.net/howto/category/5
https://www.pixiv.net/howto/category/7
https://www.pixiv.net/howto/category/8

>>3905324
no quiero

>>3905324
Cute

>>3905368
Use whatever resources you have in your disposal. And pixiv won't let you sort by popularity unless you pay up.
Plus, posting different sections of the same webpage 7 times doesn't mean you have more resources, idiot.

>>3905324
subpar

What are currently the most popular anime artstyles in SK and Japan?

I really like the 80s-90s style of anime, but there aren't really a lot of artists that can successfully imitate the style and make it look good.

I noticed things like pic related and Aikatsu styled art tends to be pretty popular.

>>3905632
and I forgot the picture like a dumbass.

>>3905632
just look at the top pixiv rankings and character designers that work in a lot of shows and hentai artists in the big books just draw cute sexy girls

>>3905632
I like this /i/ guy's style https://twitter.com/oekakiham

>>3905732
>only 3 tweets
>no followers
>decent style
where did you find this guy?

>>3905736
oh I remember this anon. Didn't know they made a twitter, though.

What I would give to have them sit on my lap.

>>3905632
like, just watch airing anime? you're here and you didn't do this?

>>3905736
http://roboham.blogspot.com/

All his stuff is here, he just created this twitter after some anons asked him to.

>>3905632
just learn what style you like

>>3905632
I don't watch enough anime nowadays but just try to follow and study your favorite artists on pixiv or twitter

>>3905230

How do you guys go about drawing boobs being groped or squished? Is there something you can use for reference if you don't have a big-boobed girl in real life on hand?

Did i make the lineart thin enough this time?

>>3906090
a water-filled balloon

>>3899565
Which tools should I use to make something like this?

>>3906112
or this

>>3906112
>>3906115
A pen and paper you fucking crab

>>3906147
:(

>>3906102
learn lineweight

>>3906147
:(

>>3906090
Grab your own boobs, idiot.

>>3906115
Digitally use a hard brush, something along the lines of a dry oil-based brush

Holy fuck, Hitokaku is a godsend. Wish I had discovered this earlier.

>>3906242
hitokaku poster reporting in to agree with you. i was shilling it a bunch in the last thread but nobody else was posting anything so i stopped. thanks for bringing it up, now's my chance!

>>3906242
>>3906253
I just googled and came up with no good results, care to explain what Hitokaku is?

>>3906265
https://mega.nz/#F!UcNG2AiT!jeyWwP1gtQXXz6R29o5bgw!lNdRACzI

>>3906268
Thank you dear

>>3906265
It's basically a beginners' book but it uses a fairly different approach to construction compared to what I've seen in western material, starting with a figure that is basically a bendy sheet of paper in 3D and slowly adding mass and applying more defined features as you move on.

Overall the methods in the books feel really intuitive (imo) and lets a beginner draw something that looks appealing almost from the very start.

It's all in Japanese though (though it's fairly simple and usually self-explanatory).

>>3906253
looking good!

>>3906282
thanks anon!

Is there any tutorial on how to paint is this style or how it is called at least? i drool for this guy art

>>3906306
>you'll never ever be able to draw and paint like that
Thanks for the reminder anon

>>3906310
ngmi with that attitude

Can someone post that gif or webm of that guy who drew an anime girl in a matter of seconds?

>>3906115
This is some really amateur shading and linework. You need to study off from better artists

>>3906369
There's tons of them anon

Did this, any opinions?

>>3906391
What she looking at?

>>3906474
Got it, gonna fix the eye to make her actually look at the dragon.

>>3906310
Artist is almost 50yo you still have time

>>3906506
You should consider redrawing head at different angle. No one likes to stretch his eyes muscles that much.

>>3906521
Will keep that in mind and continue the next day! Thanks for the advice.

>>3906306
my wife zeta is so gorgeous

>>3906306
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6SV1ad4Luo
You can see the whole drawing process in this but it sadly skips around

>>3906608
why is there 3 of them

>>3906619
probably to showcase the whole process, sketching , lineart and coloring, in as little time as possible

How to maintain face symmetry? Should I just use guidelines until I get used to where to place features?

>>3906625
ah smart guess

>>3906643
practice measuring more and dropping guidelines, eventually you still measure but can internalize the guidelines. also hardly anyone draws straight headshots, they're flat and not interesting. practicing them isn't bad but most things will be some form of 3/4 or "more-profile" 3/4 view.

>>3906608
i appreciate the intent anon thanks

>>3906653
Thanks, I'll try to take measurements more often. Drawing a face from the front is refreshing for me since most of my practice has been 3/4 views.

Hi /asg/,

My mentor said that I was really stubborn with his criticism and suggested I posted my work on /asg/. He thinks the character sketch has a "beer belly".
I have no idea how to make here have a remotely slim belly, as I'm only allowed to use cuboids for the torso in the sketching stage, so if I were to subtract irregular shapes from the cuboid it obviously wouldn't be a cuboid anymore.

So, then the next drawing is the lineart, now my mentor says there is a discrepancy between the sketched pose and the lineart pose, I can't really disagree on that, the lineart pose turned out slightly different than I initially had in mind, he says the beer belly is now gone because it's a completely different drawing.
He sent me a redline (which is the picture below the drawings) of how the torso would look like from a side-profile in this sketched pose, I can sort of see what he means by this, but I think it's quite exaggerated.

I don't think the final WIP lineart looks that bad, please let me know your input.

>>3902443
Kemono characters are literal mutants. They're supposed to have 4 ears.

>>3907104
Feeling down, anon?

>>3906268
Has anyone had a go at translating (sections of) the hitokaku books yet? I'm awful at Japanese but I'm slowly working my way through the first book and was wondering if it would be a waste of effort to at least try and translate the wordier parts and share them with the thread.

>>3907426
copying pictures is usually enough for most people. doubt you'd get anything useful out of translations of a beginner book if you can't see it in the pictures so it's mostly a waste of time.

>>3906164
im trying

>>3907426
>>3907461
i haven't seen any translations yet, but i will say that if you know some japanese, you should try to work through reading it. the language it uses is fairly simple. he mostly just reassures you that drawing people is simple and fun, and you shouldn't stress over it. every couple of pages he recommends you brew some tea and take a break. one example of something that was actually useful was when he tells you to imagine drawing perapera-kun (the flat guy) as a paper strip-bags that hold disposable chopsticks.

>>3907467
lmao where?

>>3907467
you should make clear to yourself and the viewers the orientation of her limbs. whether it's coming toward the camera, away, or parallel to the picture plane. in terms of the face, the eye closest to us doesn't sit properly in her skull. i would recommend studying a little more perspective and constructing more primitive forms. it looks like you were forced into a corner in regards to creating a pose because you weren't comfortable with manipulating her limbs in 3 dimensions.

that aside, it's got appeal and it looks like you spent a lot of time cleaning up the linework. good job!

>>3907461
>>3907469
Yeah, I skimmed through it just looking at pictures and picking out the odd words here and there but went back and actually read through the introductory pages and I feel you do lose out on some important context and advice by just copying the pictures (not to mention missing out on the playful and reassuring tone of the writing).

Trying to learn how to color skin. Am I doing this right so far?

>>3907752
jesus

>>3907752
Try color picking from an existing artwork and analyze how the two colors are related. The one you picked on your work doesn't complement each other at all

>>3907752
>>3907777
Thanks. It's better, but I don't really like.

>>3906218
I wonder what the average /ic/ cup size is.

>>3908188
>tfw browse /fit/, /ic/ and /lit/

>>3907482
Thanks for the helpful critique. I indeed, stopped completely working on fundies for years. I guess it's time to pick it up again. I'll try to make the volumes make more sense!

>>3908176
Cute

Going for a vintage feel here
What do ou guys think?

>>3899565
Does anyone have the link to the thread with a ton of resources like OP pics that was posted a few days ago or something ?

>>3908690
Not really, do more studies my dude

>>3908761
Nevermind, found what I wanted, have some Monogatari studies.

>>3908853
bottom right and top left channels shaft a bit. it looks like you can eyes and mouth but completely fall apart on everything else. i know some will defend it but there's an awful lot of chicken scratch which really detracts from the lines. i'm not expecting completed inks in a sketch study but it really distracts from the face/the pieces.

Is this drawing I made of Nana Abe cute?
I wanna know if I'm doing good

>>3909436
I really like it, it's cute as fuck

nice job anon

>>3909436
>>3909439
i think it could be cuter.by applying the standard S O U L L E S S cute proportions

>>3909451
>>3909439
Thanks!

>>3908853
Some more.
>>3908869
Outch, thanks anon, I'll be more careful next time.

>>3908690
Went for vintage but it feels pretty modern ngl

>>3899949
To add on to other anon the frontal plane and the back of the head are disconnected it feels like you super imposed the face onto the skull it doesn’t flow. Just look at some Loomis head structures obviously not anime but it could help you see what it should be based on. Other wise it’s good def love the more 90s style you got going.

>>3908690
it doesnt look vintage, my man. It just looks like there's something in my eyes and I'm losing my vision. The vintage anime look is achieved by doing certain styles and by using the right filters/texture. You didn't do both. It's just vintage deviantart

>>3906391
are you still doing this? composition-wise, the dragon is just meh and there's a ton of empty space between them and around the picture. Must the dragon really be this small?

>>3906102
I saw your linearted version of this. You must go thinner, but you're not really doing a bad job. Keep at it.

>>3899565
I have a dumb question, if I want to draw anime girls should I study the basics?

>>3910186
Yes.

>>3910186
100%

And the more you study of the basic drawing skills, the better your anime girls will be and the more consistency you will have. You can do this, anon.

>>3910186
In addition to what the other anons said, study fundamentals, but don't forget what made you want to pick up drawing in first place. Just grinding fundies without ever drawing cute 2D girls (if that was what made you pick it up) is an excellent way to kill any interest you have in drawing. Practice fundamentals, but apply them to subject matters you enjoy as you learn.

t. someone who has dropped drawing twice in the past and only just learned this lesson the third time.

>>3910186
If you want to draw anything you need to study the basics. Especially characters. Practicing figure drawing and anatomy A LOT will automatically give your drawings a lot more gravity and will make it possible to draw from imagination effectively.

>>3910186
Yes, I'm studying the fundies for this very reason. Just make sure to have fun drawing anime girls in between studies.

Two weeks ago I picked up the Talent ignition course for 2danimation 101. I don't think I've really progressed since I started, but I've been quite busy during the day and I have trouble managing my time which is kind of ironic since the lesson I'm at is that I have to explain how to manage better my time in the challenge of the day. I'm at day 9.

>>3909874
Ok this is fun.

>>3910397
hey viscom anon, listen. i really like that you're producing work and posting it. that alone makes you better than 90% of /ic/. you seem sincere about improving and i really wish you the best. but please do something about those lines. every time my eyes run along your linework i'm overcome with negative emotion as my brows involuntarily furrow. you know how lines and composition create roads for the eyes to travel? you've laid every inch of your road with caltrops

>>3910418
>lines and composition create roads for the eyes to travel? you've laid every inch of your road with caltrops
That's a pretty neat analogy

>>3910418
>viscom anon
Oh damn. Are my terrible lines that recognizable?
Thanks by the way, doing my best.
As the other anon said, nice analogy but I'm at loss at what I should do about it. I don't want to do a lineart for a sketch so what I do is "cleaning" it by erasing too messy lines and spaces. Should I clean it more? Completely erase some straight/easy lines and redo them? Have more control over my lines since the very start?

>>3910693
You're copying those right? therefore you don't have to be messy by searching the line like you would in a sketch from imagination
look at your ref and think before making your next stroke, don't just draw along until it looks right. do one single line where you can.
Even if you don't want to do a lineart, the cleaner the better

>>3910703
I'm very far from copying it by eyes. I have a ref, I look at it to get the main expression/pose, then I construct everything myself without looking much at it. Else it's mindless copying to me so there's still a bunch of guessing here and there I have to admit.
But I'll try to use ctrl+z more and do fewer lines, thanks !

what sort of magic do the japs do that make their work look so good and legit

>>3910727
something called practice

>>3910738
Damn nips and their work ethic. If only I wasn't such a lazy shit.

>>3910727
It's called passion. They'll draw it even if it's bad, because they enjoy ideas more than how good or legit something is. If you don't like your art style regardless of how shit it is, you're ngmi.

Is this anime?

>>3910727
surprised some retard hasn't come in and answered "writing chinese characters since elementary school"

>>3911034
Calligraphy definitely has a role. All line drawing practice counts.

>>3910727
Stop giving credence to Japs just because you only see the good ones and remember Tumblrshit from the west.
Skill is putting speed and fundamentals together.

huh

Anyone here can recommend a good and free texture site?
I'm never drawing chainmail armor by hand ever again, good god

>>3911345
Brainlet here, but couldn't you just draw a plain flat chainmail texture and use the warp tool?

>>3911345
nice tits

FUCK LOOMIS

>>3911349
I could, but I thought If I'm going to draw a bad texture myself I'd rather just draw the entire thing directly anyway so most of it has the correct perspective
The tool isn't perfect, at certain extreme angles a texture will lose it's illusion of depth, it's not a big deal if the texture is high quality I guess, but I can't make an high quality texture all by myself

>>3911356
thanks

>>3899832
this looks like it could be traced, if not, very good.

Very eye-opening page.

>>3911427
oh hey, i was studying this earlier this month

>>3911345
But this is how you get SOUL

>>3911427
What book is this from and where can I get it? (preferably a free download but i will buy it if I really need to)

>>3911525
in the mega

What's the best book about drawings better anime tiddies?

>>3911530
Thanks
>>3911533
I think there is a whole book dedicated to anime tittied, it might be in the mega I haven't checked it yet. Here is some titty references I got from a jap hentai artist

>>3911463
>>3911427
this are sweet.

Anyone knows good artists to subscribe to on youtube?

>>3911829
depends on what you want

>>3911843
I want to see artists that do anime style drawings and record their work from start to finish.

>>3911829
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=canGDKU8FS4

>>3911851
I already subscribed to this one

i spend too much time on lineart

>>3911853
nice

>>3911846
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQC1w9YGzH4&t=2476s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmxyeMbJ8Fg&t=2485s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TQBQVy-hMs&t=1031s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3C55vReOlU0
i just know these

>>3911857
thank you

>>3911854
thanks! i actually think it turned out alright. like i can stand to look at it after i take a break and open it up again

>>3899565
How do they do this and why do you want to chase after this delusional ideal?

>>3911870
>How do they do this
lay out a perspective grid
work on a big canvas
put in the hours
and also, be very good

why are gil and ozzy's head so big though

>>3911870
what

>>3911891
Don’t mind that second part. That’s just a jaded fool who wants to be redpilled.

>>3911829
Pin2d makes good how to videos
https://youtu.be/hLsIJpFqaWw
https://youtu.be/T3KPrqvXVMA
https://youtu.be/rkX-CaRWl7o
saw their pixiv and it has nice stuff on it too

>>3911935
thank you

>>3911935
Here's the one for the head:
https://youtu.be/ko3Zaw8zffk

>>3911935
https://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?id=5560839
his pixiv is pretty boring, he draws a lot of cute girls mostly only bust up and really lazy backgrounds

>>3912613
That’s Pixiv as a whole.
You’re supposed to look at these and go “sugoi, the eyes are so pretty desu ne” and “ne ne, how do I make hair look kira kira they way you do?”

>>3912618
But how do I do that?! Why doesn't anyone answer that?! Fuck you /ic/, what's the point of drawing if it doesn't look pretty and kira kira

>>3911853
added some quick colors and spent too long on the eyes

>>3912755
This is going to sound mean, but this is genuinely painful to look at.

>>3912613
Is it really the same artist that does the tutorials and the pixiv?
It's so strange, he knows his shit but doesn't apply it in his own work

>>3912788
how so?

>>3912817
not him but she's cute

>>3912755
>>3912817
not him, but the main issue is that it looks like you're not visualizing the form and perspective at all. for places like the hair, you just laid down a few lines and called it a day instead of really communicating the form so it doesn't make any sense to the viewers and it also tells us that you don't have any idea of what's going on. this is a running theme in your piece: communicating to the viewer that you don't know what's happening and that you're just winging it.

this theme presents itself with the anatomy too. overlaps and indents where they shouldn't be, and missing indications of where the actual anatomy should be. no indications of any bony landmarks that tell us the orientation of the body. a pose like this might be a good way to hide the hands, but the trade-off is that you have to work out a lot of other anatomy: like how the breasts attach to the pecs, and how the pecs attach to the clavicles which are being pulled back by the arms rising above her head, the squeezing of the deltoid toward her neck and jaw. this is without mentioning the exposed armpits which require additional attention. it's fine to just place a single line to indicate the armpits, because it's anime after all. but the problem is that to place the line correctly, you have to know how all the muscles interlock including the coraco-brachialis which isn't normally visible unless the arms are raised. the belly button is another example of this happening, where you just placed down an indication with no consideration of the form or surrounding anatomy. the indication isn't difficult, but the placement requires you to know the orientation of the body at the very least.

anyway, i drew a few examples of what i mean by communicating the form. the main things to work on are perspective (for the sake of communicating form) and anatomy. the proportions aren't worth nitpicking, because they're largely fine.

>>3912923
you might need better taste, unfortunately

>>3912959
thanks, appreciate it. anyway, yeah i'm basically just winging it. having fun more or less. but i'll try to keep that stuff in mind in the future!

i mean, not that i plan on drawing as anything more than a hobby for myself for fun. but you know

>>3913001
yeah absolutely take it at your own pace and have fun with it. i figure since i was giving critique, i might as well be in depth. a lot of hobbyists actually make more progress than neets who are stuck in analysis paralysis trying to make a career out of art, because hobbyists actually draw. learn a little here and there, and keep drawing, my dude

To aqua: I may be back when life hurts a little less. I’ll be drawing.

>>3912793
this is why I dont trust a lot of tutorials in pixiv, da, etc. Dont get me wrong. I love anime style so much, but there's just something off with a lot of these people, and some tutorials are even scarily wrong.
>inb4 even kjg doesn't apply his teachings
yeah, but he doesn't become this worse by not applying his guidelines.

oyaris

>>3913161
Honestly drawing anime before have a lot of experience drawing real figures is a bad move. Because anime is often so stylized and simplified you learn a lot less while possibly picking up bad habits.

>>3908853
I don't think I'm qualified for constructional critique but here it goes anyway:
1. Top left:
Bangs should be in front so close those lines off on her left side (our right). Now she looks like she has one bang with different lengths of hair in it.
2. Top right: (If this is all the same woman)
None of her forehead should be visible from bangs. You should also, maybe, lover the amount of hair in background.
Her eye corners are sharper and lower on first picture
Her chin is weaker and sticks out less on first picture
3. Bottom left:
Bangs should be closer to the eyes. Too much background hair for my taste again
Omit the further eye (her right eye) or put less detail on it and move it a bit down with a stronger line defining her upper eye lid. If you want to keep iris in it move it a bit to her nose
I don't know if she is pouting on first picture but she seems to have a bit more cheek there
Overall the left side of her face seems to fit perspective nicely but right eye fucks with everything.
4, Bottom right:
Again with ton of needles amount of hair in background. Make sideburn hair pointing down
I would omit the further eye (her right eye) completely here too. If you want to keep it then don't make line so close to the nose, draw a bit smaller iris, and point it to the sky like right one (it should look like the right black dot in iris is touching top lid).

To me personally this is the level of drawing that I would like to achieve. Consistent and good proportions, decent translation of 3d to 2d

>>3909874
And then you draw this huge fucking chin

How much time do you need per portrait ?
How much time did it take to be this good (to me this is good bar all the crap i wrote) ?

>>3913293
cute and comfy

Anyone know where to download official Idolm@ster artbooks/references? Especially with turnarounds and details for the various costumes?

>>3913293
very nice and sweet

I never knew Pixiv did livestreams, anyone here watch them?

>>3913397
I used to. It's pretty great if you have the patience.

Tried doing a cutesy anime face

getting back on it

>>3913424
I think it looks more bishoujo than what I would normally associate with cute

>>3912959
God bless you for putting the effort.

>>3912959
Not OP but "don't use the same taper in taper out line"?

>>3913457
Oh yes ! I think that’s what I meant

>>3913463
The lines mechanically get thinner at their beginning and ends, which it stand out in a bad way.

>>3913293
cool and good

>>3913533

Oops was meant for
>>3913500

>>3913440
Blog?

Who here uses CSP? Which brushes should I download?

>>3913778
I do. The ones you like.

https://sketchfab.com/3d-models/zero-two-fully-rigged-cf94036a0b634637a4feacceb1f5db46

Anyone know of any other places I can look at 3D anime girls like this? Preferably naked so I can study the forms. There's a ton on this website, but none are really as good as this model I don't think.

>>3913907
Zero fucking help, why even reply to him?

>>3913778
Personally, I just learnt how to make my own. Going through all the settings, experimenting with shit. Becoming familiar with it really helps. Begin by experimenting with different brush textures.

>>3913939
Because my answer and yours are practically the same. It's a retarded question

>>3913947
>my answer and yours are practically the same
no

>>3913939
Thanks

What image should I copy¿

>>3915585

i made the eyes bigger and the hair smaller

>>3915585
>copy
Why?

>>3915625
For study probably

>>3915588
nice image. i'm not the guy who asked for it but i did it anyway

>>3915625
>he doesn't know
>laughing_girls.jpg

anyway, is anyone gonna make a new thread?

>>3915674
hote

>>3915674
me in the middle

>>3915625
I changed my mind about this

>>3916066
oh god they're merging

>>3916066
Damn I have to draw the head, the torso, the arms and leg by memory and try to calculate it.