/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>3890222
I'm just wanting to take commissions and I need to set a fair price
$85 it is a good price for something like this?
My friends tell me that I can increase up to 100 or even more

>>3890236
I'd pay $100 for this if you include a background too.

>>3890236
looks like a full 6-8hr job to me, using specialist skills to make a custom piece = $200

>>3890240
I'm pretty shit with bakckgrounds m8, the best thing I can do is a not very polished work and hit that with gaussian blur
>>3890241
I was thinking about it but could not find people who charge so much for something like that so I'm a bit scared for the reactions

A friend of mine said it's worth 30 bucks, i've never done one tho
I want to start doing it when i reach 1000 followers

>>3890267
>>3890236
Worthless trash

>>3890273
oof

>>3890273
>ignore crab replies

>>3890236
isn’t this nardack

>>3890267
50-70

>>3890240
>>3890241
>>3890338
How come you guys have such drastically different opinions from >>3890273 ?
This board is so random, a lot of times i have no idea who is right or wrong here

>>3890347
You cant be serious. >>3890273 is baiting.
If you didnt know boards are made up of different people with different opinions, not a hivemind

>>3890290
Yes, I learned how to do a very similar job based on their illustrations (so as not to make an exact copy) and honestly it is quite easy

>>3890236
you really shouldn't go any lower than 90 for full color character like this, +60 or 70 for an additional character. don't base your prices on what you see retards on twitter doing. charge like a professional if you have the skill for it.

this artist makes commissions starting at $ 10, portraits

>>3890347
You should base your opinion less on how many other people have a certain opinion

>>3890368
This is what worthless trash ACTUALLY looks like

>>3890368
This is really good for only $ 10

How much would it cost for someone to make a base figure/pose for me?
I've been trying to get something going for a while on my own, but nothing really comes out looking right. I know I should just gitgud, but I took on a project that I guess was something out of my skillset. I don't need anything colored or anything, just something for me to get started with. So just a basic figure, somewhat stylized but a bit based in realistic proportions, with just some basic linework on top for the body (with some construction lines underneath), and maybe a basic head with some features.

Pic related are my first and second attempt (horrible, I know). I got a little further along with the second but it just didn't feel right. I can't even draw heads properly.
Again, I'd like to learn how to draw stuff later, but this is a project that I've bitten off more than I can chew with, so I'm willing to pay someone to get this base stage done as long as it's reasonable.

>>3890236
Prove you've drawn that you lying faggot

This got me a $35 commission. It was my first one, and I have no idea how to market it.

>>3890510
hmu
>throwmeaway@cock.li

>>3890510
Why don't you just trace 3Ddolls or photos for the base?

>>3890689
Second one was. Still came out looking like shit. I mean it's workable, but it just seems too stiff.
I do graphic design, and figured I could whip something up pretty easy, but I guess I've been really out of practice as far as drawing goes. I just figure it'd be better to just ask someone who's more skilled than me in this aspect so I can get this done. I used to be able to draw, but I haven't done people in a long while. Definitely going to practice more after this.

>>3890684
Sent

>>3890510
this is the drawing skill of someone who never drew before,
how do you expect to finish the rest of the project?

>>3890658
Face is ugly, but the body and detail on the tail looks appealing. The clean coloring and line art carry this all the way.
If the face weren't ugly, this could be a $50-$75 piece.

>>3890870

>>3890241
You don't get reactions, you get people telling you to not sell yourself short and then no one commissioning you because the industry is inundated with above average hobbyists/dAfags offering same level work for a $4/hr rate.

>>3890267
$25/hr+ another $15-$20 for nsfw. I'm guessing that took ~2-3 hours so $65-$90

You should figure out what an hour of work is worth in your country. Just because Pajeet is making mad cash with his 20$ commissions, doesn't mean you have to compete with him.

>>3890870
>>3890871
ngl, you're not all the way there skill-wise, but even for your skill level you seem to be underpricing your shit. I'm curious how long does a headshot take you to make for you to only charge them $1.63?

>>3890870
Do you also accept dA points?

>>3890236
that level of job is easily 100$ PER CHARACTER!

>>3890236
Almost Hyanna Natsu tier, and her commission slots fill up almost as soon as she opens them.

>>3890891
KEK! been awhile I heard that one

>>3890870
>>3890871
If this isn't your own work and you're just making fun of someone, then shame on you.
If this is your work, then keep going and don't ever give up. Many of your favorite artists used to draw like this.

>>3890870
You are woefully underselling yourself, you could easily go DOUBLE your current prices.

I made these two drawings for $ 40, but I have not been paid yet ...
Is the price bad?

>>3890658
you are underselling too you can bump it up to $50 easily

>>3890901
I hate to say it this way, but the kind of people who want to commission an anime artist are scumbags. They'll do anything to rip an artist off.
From now on, always charge up front, and don't offer any refunds after the initial sketch phase.

>>3890901
Look Anon, the price is relative everywhere in the economy. You have to be the one to put your foot down. Pricing depends on a lot of factors that can drastically change from commissioner to commissioner and may often be unknown. Both of those are well worth $40. Especially the NSFW one which you could bump up higher because of the NSFW tag and bg.

If you haven't been paid yet you either have to be patient and trust the commissioner or send him a respectful reminder and ask for a specific date. Asking for a specific date is always better and more mature even if it is a bit further down the line you would like.

The client going poof is sadly always a possibility but you should have at least safeguards up for that if you are dealing with random nobodies.

>>3890871
>>3890870
>>3890891
>>3890896
But in all serious your prices are garbage and the reason the standard rate in freelance art for anyone w/ less than 7000 followers is shite. Your work is average but that headshot should at the very least be $15-$20.

>>3890901
This is easily $100+ worth of work.

>>3890890
It doesn’t take me that long, I genuinely think that those prices correlate with the effort I put in.
>>3890897
This is my work. I’ll keep working, thanks anon.

>>3890913
>This is my work
GIB BLOG! NOW!

>>3890917
:) @beholdnika on instagram, thank you

>>3890919
thanks

how much could i sell something like this for if i ever decided to?

>>3890909
I had some problems and it took me a few weeks to finish the drawing.

I could not do exactly what he'd asked me to draw, so I first made the drawing of the right that was simpler.
And this week I did the left one.

It's the first time someone asks me for a drawing, until then I've drawing it on my own, so I do not know about values and how to deal with those things.

I'll wait this week to see what happens, since I finished the drawing only last Thursday.

I did a third drawing, this one, but I think he was not interested ... I was going to do a nude version, but it's going to be a lot of work and maybe not worth it. Besides that the body has been traced, it's not an original drawing.

>>3890933
how long did it take you to do?

>>3890901
As someone who's been doing commissions full time for over 2 years, let me give you some advice.
>complete a basic sketch for a commissioner, but NEVER continue the work until they've paid you full price. Even if they are a returning customer.
>Your work could easily be $60 USD PER character. Background not included.
>When charging someone, use the invoice feature on PayPal, don't let them directly send you money and have a terms of service (no refunds, etc).
This will help prevent charge backs.
>If someone wants changes in the drawing after the sketching stage, charge extra. No matter how nice they are.
I've had people make up to 10 "small" changes throughout a drawing to avoid being charged.
>If someone continuously wants a different pose and doesn't like the initial sketch, charge after the second attempt.
I've had people do this to get free sketches so that way less pricey artists could take care of the rest of the work. Once you start charging, they leave you alone.
>If someone's OC is super detailed or it ends up being more work than initially quoted (not including your fuck ups for lack of a better term) don't be afraid to charge extra.

>>3890222
How are my prices? I’ve gotten a few commissions

>>3890955
That's irrelevant.

Doesanybody know any good places to shill comissions? Discord servers or something?
I just started posting my art on social media not too long ago so I don't have much of a following. I've tried /aco/ but I won't do hardcore shit so naturally I haven't gotten that many commissions from there.

>>3890974
Got some commissions from Reddit /r/hungryartists

Literally the only thing I know how to draw is stylized horse vagina.
Can I make it?

>>3890965
If you send an invoice to someone's email they can't take money back from you? I've never used PayPal and want to make sure that I won't get tricked with this 120 day refund

>>3890222
Hi
https://twitter.com/jolteonthelazy?s=09

>>3890971
No it isn't. Best way to determine price on artwork is how long it takes for you to make, just like any job. If you can figure out how long it takes you, then you can figure out how much to charge by attaching that to an hourly rate. It also gives you an explanation when shitheads get pissy about your prices.

Unless you want to waste 5 hours working on someone else's idea for $20, figure out your shit and make sure you're getting what you're worth.

>>3890979
Blog?

>>3890978
Reddit is icky but fuck it I need money.

>>3890721
you need to read the sticky you don't have any skill, even for tracing.

>>3890987
>Best way to determine price on artwork is how long it takes for you to make, just like any job
KEK
Economical brainlet detected. Your work is worth as much as someone is willing to pay for it, nobody cares if you can do it in 5 minutes or 5 hours.

>>3890983
They'll have to go through more trouble to get it back. It's also against PayPal ToS to sell porn art, so it'd be a risk of freezing both yours AND the customers account if they went to them. In the invoice, just make sure you write vaguely what the comm is. For example "single character full color" instead of "Mercy getting cummed on". You also have to process the invoice afterwards to say that your product was digital goods and delivered.
I've never had refunds doing this and because I also took precautionary steps from my previous post.

>>3890986
what is the point of put the high price if you don't gonna be able to make something worth of that price, just put the first price of each 3, and a more appropriate average

>>3890995
brainlet

>>3890995
That's where the hourly rate comes in shitstain. Set your rate for the going average of your market and work from there, especially when you're new and don't have a following yet. Current rate for freelance art is ~$10-$15/hr for any artist with less than 1000 followers, $20-$25/hr for more than 1000, and once you get about 10k you can start setting whatever you want.

>>3890986
Price range is too crazy, narrow it down

>>3891003
said nobody ever

I'm think of doing $5 commissions soon. Is this a good idea to get my shit out there?

>>3891028
yes

>>3891028
Not at all. It's a poor solution to a problem you seem to not understand.

>>3891028
Maybe if you’re a complete beginner and it’s just rough sketches. But seriously you should be charging a lot more

>>3891028
I don't know. It really depends on your skill level; it's hard to give any legit advice without seeing your work.

>>3891044
>>3891045
Heres the more recent thing I've done. I dont have the fully finished version on my phone though.

>>3891028
Could you repeat the question? What are you exactly planning to do and what do you hope to achieve?

>>3891032
>>3891039
>>3891044
>>3891045
>>3891050
>yes, no, maybe, I don't know, can you repeat the question
Heh.

>>3891048
i like this. Do you have a tumblr or anything else with more stuff yet?

>>3890965
I really appreciate your tips.

Thanks.

>>3891059
https://www.instagram.com/azav.art/
https://twitter.com/AZAV858
Haven't updated either in a bit, but I'll post something later today and maybe tomorrow. I'm gonna fucking unplug my router for the rest of the day and see if that makes me more productive.

>>3891065
Of course. I don't want people ending up in the same boat I did. Oh! One more thing.
Never complete more than one sketch at a time for a customer. Did about 8 base sketches for this one guy which took about $100 of my time (since I had other comms going and could have completed or started others). I always give the first 2 edits free then start charging at 3 and up. I honestly should have known better, he said he was waiting on refund from another artist running off on him but kept asking for sketches. Needless to say, but he ran off with all of those sketches and I never got paid.

>>3891028
>I'm think of doing $5 commissions soon. Is this a good idea to get my shit out there?
At that point you would probably be better off throwing out stuff you do for yourself or for free. Trouble is that first impression matters you do not wish to be "the guy that does stuff cheap" people will expect that from you. Sooner or later you will need to up your prices later as your skill improves and then it will be harder for you to do so.

>>3890347
>>3890273 is baiting because his dad left home when he was 5.

>>3891048
>>3891048
Whatever your art level, i cannot imagine ANY art being worth $5. Even if it's for "getting your shit out there" Out where? In the realm of underpaying people? Even if you can knock out the drawing there's still the emails, followup etc, which always takes up more time.

For $5 you can't even have someone do some housecleaning for 30 minutes, let alone you doing decent artwork. So you're drawing at a loss.

Use your precious productive time to invest in yourself and your art. That's the post profitable way to spend your time. Your drawings look alright but the major fault is the lack of polish. Cameraphone pictures, lined paper, sloppy finish and visible rough pencils. Without sounding condescending, would you spend money on your own drawings?
Try to build a few pieces, work them until they shine. Good work will come to you when you deserve it. Bad work is always easier to find, but who wants bad work?

I focused on building a portfolio for years before work finally started coming in. And once it started i've just been bouncing from job to job. Now i can happily say i'm not even picking up a pencil for assignments under $300.

Also, corporate clients > commissions. There's more of everything: professionalism, directness, clarity, vision, and most importantly, budget.

/rant

>>3890728
>>3890994
I promise you I can draw. I've got a big case full of still life drawings from classes and shit. They might not be the greatest, most perfect drawings ever, but they're not as god awful as the shit I've been trying to draw now.
I just can't get around drawing digitally. There's too much of a disconnect between my hands and the screen. That and when I try to draw anything from imagination or stylized it just comes out like shit. I figured I'd be able to just take a figure or something, trace over it and be done with that part, but it's just not working for me for some reason. I guess I'll just keep at it.

>>3891048
>>3891028
That is worth way more than $5 do it $15-20 at the very least for crying out loud.

Trying to start on commissions. Is the pricing ok?

bump

>>3891187
It's a little low price for such a good sketch. And the full color work should cost 35, 40 or even more

>>3890267
Got a blog?

>>3891297
Scratch that, I'm blind.

>>3890267
Your ropework is weak. However, your shading and details is VERY good.

You can easily hit the 70-90, though you should always keep other ranges of services such as Sketch, Lines and so forth of varying expenses.

If you're opening commissions, contact me.

>>3891187
I wouldn't put 3 different styles as your example. The sketch is much better than the other examples. Much more appealing desu. I feel like you either traced or studied an anime pic to get that result since thr other pics have some serious problems with them

>>3890236
People on this board is so retarded. This art is professional tier of animu, from a 73k followers Twitter artist. There is no way this shit is below $500

>>3891028
I think it's better if you just do things for free / raffle them. 5$ signals that your artwork is nearly worthless. Fuck's sake, people pay 20 dollars to have their comment highlighted on stream chats.
Especially when your art looks like this >>3891048, that's way too good for pricing this desperate.

>>3891048
Don't undersell yourself. This could go for at least $30. $10 for super rough sketches.
Lowballing gives people with entitlement issues the idea that artists are cheap and disposable.

inb4 "not wrong"

>>3891028
no

do the 100 $10 sketch challenge instead but the sketch takes less than 45 mins.

you get the exposure AND you incentivize yourself to draw faster

>>3890996
Ok thanks, but I don't plan on doing nsfw commissions so there's no fear of freezing the accounts, will the invoice still be effective enough to stop chargeback? Do you have experience with sfw too?

>>3890267
Charge at least 50$ for this. Like the other anon mentioned, the rope looks bad, but horny normies won't care about that. That your shading looks decent is much more important.

>>3890870
>not even 2$ for a headshot
what the fuck are you doing, mate. Please start charging more. Your colours still need some work, but your sketches are definitely worth more than that.

>>3890967
cute! good work anon

>>3891924
... how much do you think I should charge ?

>>3890967
You could definitely be charging more anon, especially if you move to traditional, I plan to when I start doing pet portraits. How do you advertise by the way, facebook? I'm trying to understand how to reach people for pet portraits, especially digital.


My goal is to get regular commissions of the following types, all digital:

People portraits, pet portraits, D&D or other OC character art (bust, halfbody, ref sheet, or scene). I think a lot of people would love to have a great moment from the campaign immortalized, and all players + gm could pitch in for it

I plan to eventually start doing traditional options of the above as well, that way I can charge more because of materials, having to ship it to people, and also the fact that they now have a physical thing to hang in their home or bring to a session. I think pencil and oils would be the mediums I use.

WTF are you guys doing... This is just sad... I hope you're not trying to make a living with those prices. I charge $140 per day of work and I thought I was undercharging

>>3891957
>$140
You are. I bring in $250 per day and that's a minimum quota.

>>3891960
I'm beginner mode and live in a poor country, so i'm good.

>>3891960
>>3891957
Post your work.

>>3891957
I can live a month on that lmoa

I don't like doing commissions but I'm thinking of opening them up at an absurd price and seeing what happens. Worst case scenario, nothing changes.

>>3891187
Sorry anon but your sketch looks better than colored artwork.

>>3891957
I’m honestly just looking for people to commission, that’s why I started this thread. I need a wallpaper drawn for a 5k monitor, because so few wallpapers exist for that resolution. Mind posting your stuff?

>>3891985
No Anon, the worst case scenario is that your potential customers will realize how ridiculous you are and they'll spam screenshots of your "offer" on their subreddits and discords as a meme about pretentious, overpriced artists. In this field reputation is everything.

>>3891304
>>3891919
i'm not into bondage and it was my first time drawing it, it's confusing as fuck. Sorry

>>3892009
Seems to me that it’s because of the difference in art styles. His sketch would probably look better as a full-colored image, the current “full-colored” example looks worse because of style, not because of skill. At least, that’s how it looks to me.

>>3891887
So long as you put no refunds in the invoice and process the invoice as delivered, you should be safe. You can contact Paypal if they try to refund. Plus you get all of their personal info and shipping information, so if they try any funny shit, you can report them.

>>3891156
then just draw draw analogously, and collect money until you have enough for a screen tablet.

>>3891048
if you can draw more like this, or just a little more pulished in the same time, you should price more than $5, try to range the prices with the first commissions, in the plan of "pay what you want"; just set a minimum price, in this case set your minimum to $5, of course you are gonna see people paying that, but someones are gonna pay more, with that you adjust your range. After all all this is capitalism, people pay acording to the demand, so people can pay a lot more more of what you might expect for some things

>>3890658
i think is fine, maybe can be more, but the background is not worth, if you spend any time in that, let them white, or just make a real background and set a price for that

>>3892143
Flintlock, this thread is not for you please exit!

>>3892056
Then just lower the prices back down. No harm no foul.

>>3892117
Thanks for explaining, I appreciate that

>>3892056
If he can't negotiate, that's his problem.

this level is ok? how much can i charge? (i know the pose is fucked)

How does one go about offering commissions? I've never done it before, and I always just felt that if someone wants to commission you, they'd just contact you and ask if you are willing to do them. Is it just something you should state explicitly?

People pay for shitty unfinished sketches of ugly anime characters? What the fuck. I would be ashamed if I drew any of your pictures and tried to sell them.

>>3892056
>get your art spammed everywhere
>bad
any publicity is good publicity

>>3892460
Yes. you said that you're open to commissions. that's it.
Then declare the prices (or range of prices), the rules, workflow, contact info, etc.
People then ask you for commissions.
Simple maths anon. People are not going to ask if you have a poor fanbase, just for statistics. Big fanbase = more people asking for request and commissions.
Is different is you draw niche things, supply and demand

>>3890965
good advice, saved

>>3892317
Sure, as long as you'll dealing with normal, reasonable people and not some retarded autists who buy porn on the internet and make drama for fun.

>>3892481
I think that everyone who lurked here for a while knows who Andrew Dobson is. I still have somewhere those screenshots of Dobson wasting few months on a very simple commission.
But, despite knowing him, I would never hire him and I doubt anyone else would either.
Your argument is invalid.

>>3892539
He's still in a better position than if no one knew who he was. Some people are idiots and will waste their money on him regardless. Better to have a few idiots than none.

>>3892539
I remember he use to be so incredibly smug. That water bottle incident really got to him.

>>3892667
What was the water bottle incident?

>>3892667
>water bottle incident
Tell me a story about Dobson and that one water bottle incident, /ic/.

>>3892670
>>3892680
I assume this is it:
https://youtu.be/7rgXKUXOgvU

A retard bothering another retard.

>>3892688
Did Dobby press any charges?

>>3892680
That's a very nice kot

>>3892143
Why are you spamming your works in every single thread, reatard?

i get paid 30ish to 40ish for stuff like this.

>>3891933
5$~17$ even if it's sketchy and black and white

>>3892938
I’ll probably adjust it soon, thanks

>>3892936
I'm jelly/10.

Say anon, would anyone buy pic related level of detail\polish?

I really needed to update my commission sheet, here you go.

https://www.deviantart.com/aquapaulo
or
https://twitter.com/aquapaulo

>>3892691
He didn't know the guy and he had a few days left before he had to leave anyway.

>>3893276
I wouldn't pay any amount to those because the lineart/style itself is ugly
sorry
lurk more around pixiv and copy real talent, stop browsing deviantart.

>basically every post has a reply saying to lower the price or offer no criticism at all, just mocking the art with no helpful info

Is it always the same guy replying to everyone?
Or is this thread an artist-dissing thread disguised as a honeytrap full of idiots hoping for free art or a cheaper price?

Dude what the fuck? Are you telling me people pay up to 100 bucks for shit like this and I work on IT for pennies? Are the 100 dollars guys super famous or something? I seriously could even leave my work with 800 monthly

>>3892117
Slightly unrelated but what rights does a client have over the picture? Ownership? Rights to use? May the artist still use a commissioned art for his benefit later on? (Putting it up on a portfolio aside) what's the norm in this field?

>>3893779
Non-exclusive use rights to the image. You own it and can do what you want with it, the buyer just commissions it for his use. You usually charge more if they want to keep it private and market rates if they need ownership for whatever reason.

How do I even determine if my drawing is good enough for commission and how do you publicise it?

>>3890721
Bruh your gonna need to study not practice. Those attempts have 0 skill behind them literally a beginners first attempts

How does the legal laws work when doing commissions? Is fanart not allowed?

>>3892065
bondage is actualy pretty easy and straightforward once you have studied those 3 things:
how the rope "bites" into flesh
how to draw knots
how to draw interesting bondage poses

As usual, it's a matter of studying.

>>3890995
They quite literally do care. Drawibg fyrry cimissions yh whatever but drawing for any studio it your speed matters almost as much as your skill

>>3891048
Worth WAY more than 5$

Kinda new at this idea of getting paid for art. Hell I haven't even had a real buyer yet who wasn't just someone I knew personally.

>>3893738
Can you even read? Most replies here say that people are undercharging, not overcharging. As in they should increase the price and avoid working for pennies. You must have been dropped as a baby

>>3891048
anon, the amount you charge is all about how and where you market yourself. being able to confidently tell a client what your time is worth is probably just as, if not more important than your actual drawing skill. why should the customer value your work if you don't?
the island of manhattan was sold for a handful of beads, that's where being modest gets you.

>>3894049
Anon understand that pixel art is a big niche topic however that pixel art you got is pretty legit good quality. You can easily bump your price up to the double of that to match the normal arts. Since it is niche pixel art will not be useful for most normie clients so charging a lower price will not really help. However those people that are looking specifically for for pixel art will be more than happy to pay you higher than what you have now.

Sorry for stupid question, I hadn,t participated in commision based trade but is there some marketplace where artist and buyer can meet each?

I'm mean some marketplace where buyer can check artist's artworks and order some or create some auction in ebay style? Currently, as i face that all communication between artist and buyer is going through twitter and email.

>>3890721
sent you an add a few days ago, idk if you still want help.

Still getting the hang of actually marketing my shit. I just got laid off from my wagie job after 4 years there. I figure I just charge the $12 an hour that they gave me. That is the only touchstone for how much my time is worth.
https://www.deviantart.com/suektz
I dont have much social media savvy. I am working on a website though.

>>3894373
Whoa nice beardie. I kinda like your style. I'm curious how much a painting like that would be with your 12 an hour. If anything you should charge more than a minimum wage job but if you take forever the price would just get absurd.

I've never did commission, only some friends requests in exchange friends of pizza/beers

Does that price seem reasonable? I need to get better at cleaning up and polishing

>>3891133
Very nice advice

>>3891459
whats this challenge?

>>3894049
You shade with black giving your pictures an unattractive muddy look. You also don't seem to understand forms well because your images still look flat despite your shading. Go read Color and Light by James Gurney, famalam.

>>3894526
At least double, preferably quadruple your prices

I'm not old enough to get a job so I was wondering if I'm good enough to charge for commissions yet. If so, how much?

>>3891919
> the rope looks bad
Understatement. In front it looks like a red stripe or ribbon. In the back, it's basically a skein.

>>3890267
Are you still around? How much bondage stuff do you do? I'm interested in commissioning you.

>>3890222
okay you retards, how about this as a general rule. don't charge less for skilled labor than it costs to get a fucking subway sandwich. if you re that poor at negotiating or so lacking in confidence, just go work in fast food; you will make more money.

>>3894432
Thanks!
That lizard boi took me about 4 hrs. So about $50 if ya round it. The more I know what I'm doing the faster I'll get probably. Then I might revisit my prices if I start getting actual customers.

>>3894730
I'm here
>how much bondage stuff do you do?
Whatever you want i guess
I'm glad you're interested. DM me on twitter, anon

>>3894763
But I like staying at home and not going outside.

>>3894210
>marketplace where buyer can check artist's artworks and order some or create some auction in ebay style
I dont think an auction-style market exists for digital art. Probably because it's easy to duplicate so it loses its "uniqueness". Unless you're talking about traditional artwork
If it's just normal commission work you can do it in whatever platform you're comfortable with or where you normally post your artwork

>>3894763
How much is a subway sandwich in the states?

>>3895288
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5bSjAPkDvw

>>3890236
$150 USD is the lowest.

>>3890236
Yeah, sure is yours you fucking nerd.
That's nardack

>>3894141
Thanks for the advice. Honestly the only reason I make it so cheap is because it takes me so little time.

>>3894141
Yea I totally see what you're talking about. A lot of this is pure rust and trying to transition to working without a model. I went ahead and ordered that book, that should be a good read, thanks anon.

>>3894141
Thanks for the advice. Honestly the only reason I make it so cheap is because it takes me so little time.

>>3894532
Yea I totally see what you're talking about. A lot of this is pure rust and trying to transition to working without a model. I went ahead and ordered that book, that should be a good read, thanks anon.

Character/creature design, animation, comics and illustration. I'm trying out different styles right now. My commissions have usyally run between about $30-100 depending on the job, I usually price on a case by case basis.

If you like surrealist futurist sci fantasy and spec evo, you might like why you see

http://instagram.com/ionsigh
http://ionsigh.tumblr.com
http://twitter.com/ionsigh
http://artstation.com/ionsigh

Plz commission me I need to feed my family.
$20 BW
$21 Colour
**No furries**
http://mourirmourir.tumblr.com/

I want make a commission sheet for drawing peoples OC's in anime style, but not sure which character to use for it
dont even know where to post the sheet after I make it
anyone got any advice?

>>3895585
Uh, I already have a camera

>>3895585
soulless. try actually throwing a part of yourself in there instead of copying the picture. then you will get commissions.

>>3895596
>>3895602
I don't even know what photo you guys are refing but this is some pretty crab-mentality shitposting. It's a pretty damn good drawing, any way you spin it.

>>3895596
>>3895602
CRABS CRABS CRABS CRABS

>>3895649
>>3895602
>>3895604
>>3895596
you all got trolled and trolled good

can any of you niggers draw ants wearing clothing

>>3895711
language

Dont get commisions from Artists @astral_seven and @KokoroDroid (Twitter Handles) as they either ran off with my money or are incredibly negligent and poor communicators, astral seems like they are just poor at communicating but kokoro is really starting to look like theyve dissapeared with my money.

>>3895896
Astral has atleast given me some sparce communication but its always "Soon" or "Tomorrow" when my commission will get done, its been about 5 months since i commissioned, and ~1 month since ive got a response.

>>3895896
Kokoro on the other hand i havent heard from in ~6 months, and when i was getting responses i had the same spiel about "ive been busy but ill get it done soon"

Any ideas how to negotiate the price when you're commissioned by a company? Not saying I already receive an offer. I'm just curious about companies, like mobile game developers for example, that already has in-house artists but also hire other artists to make one or two piece of art.

>>3895964
After some digging, I find this again. So any idea how commission at this level work? I know that if you're good enough, the company will contact you first. Do the company follow your term for the most part or they offer their price first?

>>3895964
>>3896019
>After some digging, I find this again. So any idea how commission at this level work? I know that if you're good enough, the company will contact you first. Do the company follow your term for the most part or they offer their price first?

>>3895964
After some digging, I find this again. So any idea how commission at this level work? I know that if you're good enough, the company will contact you first. Do the company follow your term for the most part or they offer their price first?

>>3895288
They sometimes still have that five dollar foot long but it's now more in the range of 6-10 depending on location and if you're getting something "premium". If you're getting foot long sandwiches at other places that aren't fast food, heros, grinders, hoagies, whatever you call them, they seem to start at the 10 dollar range instead, with 15 being more premium.

>>3895113
I think you could at least charge $60 especially if it's traditional. $50 seems like too much of a steal even if you feel like they're too simple or whatever.

Kind of all over the place but what do you guys think?

Usually go for 100+ per finished one with simple background.

>>3896441
oh hey, I remember you
i'd totally be down to paying 80-110 about your stuff, feels like a reasonable price
if you keep going the road you're going and improve while at it, then you can easily get as high as 170

>>3892539
Aaron Diaz ia worse than Dobson in almost every aspect, he is 10x as insufferable and egomaniacal, takes 6 months to draw a comic page, universally hated by every single person who interacted with him. Makes 5000$ on Patreon.

I want to open for commission but I dont how price my works. Here's a sample of my work, I did used a reference from pixiv

>>3890236
If this drawing is really yours I'd give you even my asshole

>>3894627
30$ without background

>>3890222
/ic/, how much would you pay for a colored sketch like this?

>>3897353
Did you make the sketch or just did the coloring? Also pic is for ants.

this is the sort i do BUT i also have a lazier way by using only sharpie and call 'em Sharpie Shots (head shots) for like 10 bucks

>>3897357
I Sketched and colored it just now. I might sell the highres if I find anybody interested.

>>3897368
example. All traditional

Current menu
https://twitter.com/AdrianDibuja

>>3897353
>>3897357
>>3897370
... ah what the hell, you`re right, it is really very small.

Bigger here.
>>3897576

>>3895585
Lovely. But it lacks personality

>>3890222

I usually charge ~200 € for a illustration, but I rarely get commissions. Mainly work in gamedev and animations. Drawing stuff like this for fun. (original size is like a0) Planning to make a exhibition and book etc.

I wish I could have Ahmed Aldoori support me

>>3895911
Just heard back from them they were very apologetic and the art is fantastic, was just a communication problem, turn out they finished it a while ago.

>>3891053
based

>>3897315
It is not his drawing, he never claimed it to be. It is by Nardack, one of the top 3 artists on pixiv.

>>3898182
how much did you paid them and for what?

How much would something like this cost or how much would you pay for it?

just curious if its good enough for a commission

>>3898425
its was 60$ australian dolleridoos and i dont think i can post the art on this board as its very nsfw, once more of my commissions are done im probably gonna make a thread on /aco/

>>3898443
i reckon around the 30 mark

>>3898555
55 aud actually now that i look

don't commission or anything but really curious in regards to digital how much/if at all does canvas size influence pricings?
be interested to know thanks in advance

>>3890236
It sure does look really good.
Price can range between 100$ and 500$, depends on supply and demand and shit

>>3894049
Too many colors on those spriteworks

>>3895585
mourir de faim

>>3898584
why u mean bro the guy's trying
suce ma bite :P

How do you get comissions? Is it mostly a matter of building a large following or do you actively aplly for jobs somewhere?

>>3890222
it's pretty easy desu

>>3898733
>Is it mostly a matter of building a large following or do you actively apply for jobs somewhere?
Ideally do both depending on what makes you comfortable and how urgent your situation is.

You could join fandoms you like, enter contests, give gifts to people that you like, help others who are struggling. Do art streams, go to other's streams and just... be a decent person.

Ultimately the final takeaway is that you are active and visible while constantly being productive and there are many ways to achieve that.

What could I get for something like this? I have never made money from art because I just do it for fun.

>>3899516
You’d be able to get over £50 I reckon

>>3899516
easy $60-70 or more

>>3891048
That's quite a progress you've made since December, dude

my prices
>>3896441
love your colors
>>3895585
you should bump it up at least 70$ but from your social media try to get more people to notice you lovely stuff
>>3898733
draw your favorite thing before anyone else like if you like a video game make fanart the moment something gets announced

I don't understand, like how can some guys get commissions when ur arts look nowhere near the level of average pixiv artists? Like, why would anyone want your arts instead of arts already on Internet from some really good artists. The thoughts of getting 50-60$ for the level of some ppl here really buffled me. And i really mean it with no offense since i am interested in this too.

>>3899602
because average pixiv artists should charge way more than 50-60

art commissions are undervalued

>>3893276
The shadows on the third bust/cowboy are worth way more than thirty

You should always think of your commission work like a job. Try to aim for work minimum wage per hour in your country, and go from there.

Remember economics: More demand=Raise Prices until demand evens out.

Low Demand=Lower Prices until demand evens out.

Good Luck!

>>3899621
If u are from a third world country, do u seperate the price for clients from ur country and clients from developed countries ?

>>3899606
Are there really people who are willing to give u 50-60$ for your work at that art level when u don't draw NSFW or furry stuffs ? I just wonder how many commissions some of ppl here got when they set the prices for their a-bit-above-beginner art at 50-60$.

>>3899623
No.If your goal is to make any king of living, you should be looking at making the most money possible for your won living arrangement.

>>3899621
minimum wage? Fuck that, i'm only familiar with American prices but even a new, kinda bad illustrator is going to charge $50 an hour and that's very low.

Some of you ITT have decent potential and the skills to make way more money if you stopped selling to random faggots on the internet.

>>3899621
>Try to aim for work minimum wage per hour in your country, and go from there.


FUCK. NO.

I'm from a third world country but I price my art the same way artists from any other country would.

my lowest price is $13 but that's for a cleaned up whole body sketch, I'm not that skilled yet

dirt cheap prices would attract shitty clients who'd guilt trip you into even lowering your prices or force you into making their commission prettier than you normally would in the given price

>>3899631
>>3899633
You notice I said its a starting point. You're a business, and making sure you're maximizing the amount of money you're making for the time spent is the most important thing.

As demand for your product(your talent) increases, you want to raise prices correspondingly.

I do think that too many artists sell themselves short by charging too little, especially for a color piece.

>>3899633
$13 for a sketch is already dirt-cheap. That's pocket change, dude

>>3899667
wtf I eat 3 meals with 13$

>>3899679
What shitty dump of a country do you live in?

>>3899684
It's not even a cheap country, I just cook my own meals.

>>3899706
£40 dude

headshot -10$ for the first two characters (all subsequentes ones + 5$)
bust -15$ for the first two characters (all subsequentes ones + 10$)
halfbody - 20$ for the first two characters (all subsequentes ones +10$
fullbody -25 $ for the first two characters (all subsequentes ones + 15$

https://www.instagram.com/baratimbum/

>>3899620
They were really quick to do though.

>>3899828
doesn't matter it looks great! Up the prices!

General idea how much I can charge these? Would like to start some commissions soon, but I've never done any so I have no clue.

>>3899706
$10
>>3899713
Being really generous there

>>3899908
Idk, I just feel like people would pay 40 for that

I said 15$, someone on another thread said 50$. I'd appreciate other opinions.

I really have to work on my shadows and all the rest of it.

>>3892143
this is really nice desu. I enjoy it

>>3900288
Put your elbow to your hip and see how you cant put your hand at face height.

>>3892429
this is cute in a derpy way

>>3893246
clean it up a little bit more with some lassoing and erasing and it's good to go

>>3893246
polish it a little more with some lassoing. Make sure the focal point (most often the face) is polished enough to stand on it's own. Messy painter here too, I just learned how to make my sketches easier to hide during clean up.

>>3900850
You literally can.

Can somene draw in the fusion fall style? I am willing to pay money to get my character made thanks.

>>3900973
I think mahmapuu can. I don’t remember her prices but That level of rendering could easily go for $70+

So sometimes I take commission work on Upwork. I know there's a lot of shitty clients, but I've gotten some good jobs on there from time to time.

I saw a job asking for an artist to do illustrations for a children's book for around $1500, so I put in a proposal.

Client gets back to me and asks about my experience n shit.
He then asks "if we were to work together, what would be your steps for illustrating the book from start to finish? Would you be available to do at least 4 project?"

I don't want to say no and ruin the chance of getting this job (because I could use the money ATM), but I have no idea what it'll be like to work with this guy on one project, never mind 4. Is there a professional way of telling someone "I would be available to do 4 projects, but it all depends if you will be an asshole to work with or not during the 1st project"?

Why do clients even ask shit like this? Why can't a client just focus on one project at a time?

>>3902372
It's a power struggle and implied contract, reply with how your usual steps for making an illustration are and finish it with "in order to think for long term, I'd like to first get an idea of the goals and general structure that you have in mind for those projects. Will they be of similar nature than the one you just described? For now I wish to focus only on the job advertised before continuing to discuss further tasks."

Does anyone here do anime-style art with clean-looking, simple coloring like pic related?
If so, I'd like to commission you.
Content in pic related is unrelated. I don't have anything so degenerate in mind.

>>3902420
So I replied to the client with what you suggested.

Client responded with this. Guess I'm hired. Thanks anon!

Doing shitty $5 CAD chibi commissions.
https://www.instagram.com/p/Bv-gOO5At8X/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=1icrkijx3yylv

>>3902471
this is a commission i did last year. if it's what you're looking for, leave me a discord or an email and we can get in touch

how the hell do you guys market your stuff?
I try shilling my shit, but it never works.
Is my style just not good enough, or is it that I need to color more of my stuff?
I tend to do only b&w, so maybe that's it.

>>3902564
It doesn't have to do with b&w or your style. Your fundamentals are too weak to gain a following based on skill.

>>3902564
>>3902568
Sorry anon, but he's right. Keep practicing and don't give up.

>>3902568
>>3902576
Damn.
That hit me kinda hard.
I thought I was at least ok based on skill looking at other posters in this thread, but yeah, I mean.
Makes sense considering I haven't gotten a huge presence.
I suppose I'll keep working at it.

>>3902577
>At least ok
You are, lad. But it takes more than at least ok for people to follow you. There is a luck and advertisement factor, though, so keep that in mind. You have to put yourself out there somehow.

>>3902581
I'm assuming drawing stuff that's "in" is also a factor.
I tend to draw my own characters, and pretty much absolutely no fanart.
I'll just keep at it, I suppose.
Hit the books some more.

>>3902588
Drawing popular stuff is definitely one way to go about it, but I think it's more genuine to just do what you think is best as an artist. If it means anything I personally think it's great that you draw your own characters. A good chunk of people don't have the imagination to do that, or they're too lazy. Keep fighting the good fight

>>3902588
>I'm assuming drawing stuff that's "in" is also a factor.
Sure. It's not what you're missing though. What you're missing is skill, you absolutely need to realize this or you're fucked. You're currently /beg/ level. I'm really not trying to put you down though, I believe in you. Do a bunch of imaginative figure drawing with anatomy books (tip: ditch the brush you're using or at least use much thinner lines) and also practice drapery later. We're talking hundreds of hours of it.

>>3902591
>>3902593
Thanks for the support.
I'll practice some more.

>>3902564
Id follow you desu. What accounts do you have?

>>3902537
I don’t have a discord and don’t wanna post my email, but this looks great. Mind posting your handle? If not, I’ll make a throwaway email next time I’m near a computer.

>>3896441
its furry, you can charge 160 or more easily

>>3902844
you can reach me at applefootcz@gmail.com

>>3902844
yeah i'll reach out to your throwaway when you make it

>>3902420
...Damn, I'm really jealous of your social skills. Being autistic is suffering.

>>3902537
oh shit, you the guy that did slime devs waifu art, I always thought he drew it himself, how much would you charge for something like that? if you would rather discus in private I understand. do you have a DA or something I can pm you?

>>3903021
haha yeah that's me. you can find me at this discord server (it's just me in there)

https://discord.gg/gXDYcgq

>>3903038
I don't use discord, do you have a deviantart, hentai foundry or something I forgot to also ask if you do porn, I'm not the other anon >>3902844 that replied to you btw. idk how to make throwaway email.

>>3903043
i just made one, here:
https://www.hentai-foundry.com/user/afcz/profile

>>3903047
>https://www.hentai-foundry.com/user/afcz/profile
k, I'll pm you later.

Please excuse the abysmal proportions/perspective/ everything else, I am not an artist, but I will need to commission one in 5 or so months.

How much would something like this in a relatively high quality anime style cost me? The red line is where the actual drawing would stop. Going to ask for color as well, so that will surely spike up the price.

Dark silver lines - hands and arms
Blue - Background furniture/architecture

I surmise it will cost over 100?

>>3903084
I don't know what I'm looking at, do you want some shrunken people to crawl up a uncaring anime girl, on a couch with a bookshelf behind her?

>>3903155
Kek, this is a guy with long hair. I did not size anything correctly, really. Just a very rough outline of the idea. Large, buff demon hands grabbing his shoulder from below and from the side (two different demons). The skinny hands are female demon hands wrapping around his jaw and shoulder. Think of them not as real arms, but symbolic arms like reaching out from nothingness.

The guy is standing in a circular room, almost in the center and there is a giant bookshelf behind him.

>>3903155
Forgot to mention, it's basically like taking a photo of someone's jaw from the front/underish angle. The background is kind of distorted in the sense that you wouldn't be able to see the couches from such an angle if you actually took a picture of someone standing...I think. Perspective is my biggest weakness.

>>3903084
Why do you need it in 5 months?

>>3898443
That is so cute! $25-$30

>>3902520
You are devaluing yourself too much, never set a work at a price under $5

See >>3891133

>>3899873
prove, you've drawn them

>>3902520
For something as detailed and so fucking adorable you would deserve 15 USD at minimum. You worth it anon, you WORTH IT!

>>3903264
That's a secret heh

>>3903463
Oh okay, I think you'll get this commission just fine, good luck.

>>3903464
Thank you. I'm glad to hear my assumption was not unfair!

>>3890222
Legit question;
Around 25, late-blooming artist, being boomer and all these threads are stressing me out,
>besides few anons this is mostly /beg/ stuff and nsfw anime on top of that, (I guess it's underage)
>some of the prices are below burger flipping wages,(again, 3rd worlders or kids who don't take into considerations that even they won't be paying back investments like electricity bill, tablet, computer etc with 10$ for few hours of work)
>it seems that this business is more time consuming that more established ways of making money of painting skills,

What should I make out of these conclusions? I shouldn't worry about commissions, I have Just focus on portfolio and steady jobs, like for marketing or a studio, right?

I’ve done commissioned work in the past, but I’m moving in a digitally based direction.

Trying do social media portraits, wondering if I’m underselling myself here based on pricing.

>>3903636
i would say overselling d e s u i'm not into realistic/portraits so i might be wrong but try a more appealing art style and you can easily get commissioners

>>3903636
Characters: antifa, a tumblrite, and a feminist.

worst thread i've ever seen on /ic/. holy fuck.

>>3903380
Should be enough.

>>3904166
What's wrong with you?

>>3902508
Following up on this. The client said he wants to break down the project into 6 milestones and asks when I'm ready to start, he'll set up the first milestone.

Dude hasn't even told me anything about the project yet, like the story, how many pages the book will be, what each milestone consists of, etc.

Should I agree and jump right into this, or ask him what the story's about first and/or what each milestone will consist of?

>>3904867
Here's the whole convo btw

Is it wrong to ask for the general idea of the project, like the book's plot, amount of pages, what each milestone consists of, etc before agreeing to take this project?

Most clients I've done story work for, they show me the script first before asking if I'd like to be on board. This guy just says "you're hired" without even telling me the book's story.

Guess this thread died?

Weird, this thread is getting bumped, but is stuck on page 9. How is that possible?

>>3903362
I still don't have a lot of the basics down so I'm afraid to charge more.
>>3903413
Thank you, anon!! Ive only gotten two people who wanted to buy so far, though, so I don't think raising the price would do me any favours. You're a real sweetheart!

>>3905030
We reached the bump limit
New thread here >>3905053