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>all the females I draw always end up looking like lolis, not because I want to, but because I don't really know how to make them look older and because of my cutesy anime style
>attempt to draw porn
>the girls unintentionally but unsurprisingly look like lolis
>everyone starts calling me a pedophile and a degenerate
>mfw

How do I make my females look older, /ic/?
Also, in case I ever decided to start intentionally drawing lewd lolis, how do you deal with being called a pedo? I guess not caring about what others say is the best thing to do but being called a pedo can really ruin your reputation or even get you in trouble depending on where you live... I know a couple of artists who had to quit art forever because they were being publicly shamed and harassed for drawing loli so I'm a little scared.

>> No.3884453

No one will call you a pedo until you also run a mainstream non hentai series along with your loli drawings. People can always track you down. And people will call you out and have you arrested.

There was even a thread a few days ago, calling out the author of snotgirl (a manga style american comicbook) for the detractors actually found the author's alternative pixiv account full of yaoi shota incest porn. The detractors actually just wanted to pin the author on incest, take her down because of it.

I can imagine these same people, when they observe you build a fanbase on your mainstream work. Will want you see crash, and if they see your loli sketches, they'll want to have you arrested and identified on national tv.

Just follow study and apply the proportions of many books on the subject. While doing that, study the works of those artist that mainly draw loli but can draw mature ladies equally well like nishi iori.

Good luck

>> No.3884454

If it's legal where you are then draw whatever the fuck you want.

>> No.3884456

>>3884447
>>3884453
Loli/shota isn't illegal in the states as long as it's sufficiently cartoony, though.

>> No.3884460

>>3884447
You give them breasts and hips, like how women are supposed to mature. Also you shrink the head a bit and make it peoportional to the rest of the body. Big heads make matters worse in these cases.

>> No.3884473

Make them taller, give em wider hips and put the eyes higher up

>> No.3884480

I guess you could look for artists that have a somewhat similar style to yours and study how they draw adults?

>> No.3884495

>>3884447

There's something very Freudian about OPs post.

Are you sure you're not just a pedo?

>> No.3884514

>>3884447
This is fucking bullshit. There's no way you unintentionally make them look like lolis. You're just a lolicon in denial.

>> No.3884527

>>3884514
Nah, I like lolis and I'm not trying to pretend I don't. I draw lolis all the time, it's just that Idon't want to draw lewd lolis. So when I try to draw porn I try drawing adult females... and they end up looking like lolis. Probably because I'm too used to drawing lolis and their proportions and features have become part of my style.

>> No.3884532

Draw a loli and an adult side by side and compare the two to see where you went wrong?

>> No.3884552

Post some examples.

>> No.3884559

I had the same problem. What helped me was making sure I put the nose low enough on the face. The smaller the jaw/mask/face is compared to the forehead the more childlike it looks. I'm on mobile so I cant post any examples but if you Loomis over some references you should be able to see what your problem is.

>> No.3884578

>>3884527

You are not helping your case, anon-I mean-pedo.

>> No.3884596

>>3884447
You can draw lolis under a different name, just make sure it can never be traced back to you. Drop all of your accounts in which that you've posted art that caused people to call you a pedo, get a different email address.

>> No.3884597

>>3884454
It being legal won't stop people dragging his name through the mud and social ostracising him.

>> No.3884602
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>>3884447
Accept what you are given, if you draw big heads and small bodies by default then you are fubar.
Also longer legs, wider shoulders then pray that your sense of right sees the normal body as correct.

>> No.3884610

Currently wondering whether or not to reveal that I've done 2-3 pieces of cub porn 4+ years ago to my new follower base. With how brutal the twitter art scene has turned into regarding underage content, I'm afraid of shit coming to the surface once I get to a point where people actively start trying to look for dirt on you.

>> No.3884612

>>3884447
Post work pls

>> No.3884615
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3884615

>>3884552
>>3884612

>> No.3884618
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>>3884447
>muh style
LOOMIS
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S

DON'T SAY
>because of my cutesy anime style

HIT THE LOOMIS AND DO STUDIES YOU LAZY FAG

>> No.3884625

>>3884618
o-okay, I will...

>> No.3884640

>>3884610
Why would you ever reveal it? You should be distancing yourself from it as far as possible.

>> No.3884644

>>3884453
are you talking about snotgirl by Bryan lee o'malley? you mean the chick who draws his comic draws shota???
nani
and this all went down on this board?

>> No.3884649

>>3884618
Yeah he should draw broad-shouldered manfaces instead

>> No.3884652

>>3884649
t.never read loomis
>>3884625
And I meant do studies based on reality and on artists that you like that do mature-looking anime women if you want more realistic looking anime wymyn. Don't just stand there bro, your art is good already by /ic/ standards, keep pushing it.

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>>3884447

>> No.3884656

>>3884618
gurgle gurgle snibeti snab!

>> No.3884660

>>3884615
Well one thing you can do is define the jawline a little more

>> No.3884662

Proportions.
Head/body ratio, eyes/head ratio, and eyes position. These shoul be a starting point

>> No.3884673

>>3884655
they both look like lolis depending on whio you ask

>> No.3884743

>>3884615
>those tiny hands
yeah anon...

>>3884527
basically this is your life now

>> No.3884789

>>3884649
Everything that isn’t a kindergarten moeblob is a manface to you fucking pedos.

>> No.3884831

>tfw drew adult version of an underage character
>get reported for drawing "underage" character
>art clearly looks like an adult in her 20s
Come on

>> No.3884840

>>3884655
I could never point out what it is, and I normally like anime, but the art style of whoever draws this stuff for fate repulses me.

>> No.3884844
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3884844

My recent drawing, she's clearly not a loli kek.. There're features of adults, but It's think proportion is the most important.

>> No.3884857

>>3884460
Seconding the smaller head advice. OP might also want to try shrinking the eyes or placing them higher on the head to shrink the forehead, large forehad and large eyes can make your characters look younger than you intend.

>> No.3884874

>>3884844
nice oppai loli

>> No.3884935

>>3884644
Wait, I thought that Bryan is only helping his friend, he is working in “Worst world”

>> No.3884950
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3884950

>>3884615
oh shit i follow you on twitter

>> No.3885037

>>3884640
Bringing it up myself and preemptively apologizing before anyone has a chance to pop up and call me a pedo for stupid shit I did 4 years ago.

>> No.3885091

>>3885037
This is the stupidest thing I've ever heard

>> No.3885097

>>3885037
Delete the work in question. Unless you posted it under your real name, no one can know that you drew it. You don't understand the mentality of people who are anti-2D-loliporn, if you think a simple apology will get them to stop attacking you. Remember that a lot of people think 2D loliporn is tantamount to child pornography, and you could be treated like a child rapist if someone that knows you in real life found out. Delete that stuff and NEVER reveal it.

>> No.3885105

>>3885097
I'm still >>3885097
I mentioned 2D loliporn specifically but what I said applies to all drawn 2D child characters.

>> No.3885199

>>3885097
two of the pieces are on porn aggregates, that's why I'm having trouble.

>> No.3885307

just draw loli you pussy

>> No.3885320

>>3884447
Just switch between realism and anime a bunch (drawing adult women) and you will learn how to draw adult anime girls.

>> No.3885323

>>3884844
>those face proportions
Nice oppai loli anon

>> No.3885385

>>3884644
Yeah the Snotgirl written by Bryan Lee O malley but the Twitter SJW is after the female artist of the snotgirl because she never identified as LGBT.

>> No.3885387

>>3884844
jesus christ. It does look like a loli. Study adult anime girl face proportion

>> No.3885393

>>3884844
Wow, the legendary oppai loli

>> No.3885401

>>3884615
to be fair the UMP sisters aren't exactly what comes to mind when I think of non-loli characters, they are a bit small afterall.

>> No.3885440

>>3884844
Impure thot, worms were one thing this much chest is thot incarnate.

>> No.3885491

>>3884456
everyone who still says this is spreading dis-information. Cartoon cp is still cp. Maybe you can tell the judge that you read on 4chan loli is legal and see how well that goes. "sufficiently cartoony" doesn't mean shit, just like "fair use" its a legal ARGUMENT not a get out of jail free card.

>> No.3885562

>>3885491
"Considered" cp.

>> No.3885590
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>>3884447
Long legs, child bearing hips, big tits, 6-7 heads tall

>> No.3885595

>>3885590
I unironically hate this picture. First they get lazy with the hands and feet, then they fuck up the flow of the character by having the hair go straight down, then the silhouette of the cape is barely readable. Fuck's sake.

>> No.3885601

>>3885590
nobbily limbs

>> No.3885607

>>3884615
lol, they really do look like lolis, try drawing mommies or something

>> No.3885639
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3885639

Remember loomis

draw an adult and a child in the same picture and note the difference

>> No.3885807

>>3884615
>big eyes
>round face
>small hands
Small hands for a female character is cute but that's too small for a grown up female. It's proper(for slender characters) to draw female hands a bit slender.

>> No.3885933

where you want to shill your lolis if you were planning on making a separate account so twitter don't tear you to shreds?

>> No.3885956

>>3885590
Bayonetta tall lolis with balloons tits will be OP’s future and it will be glorious. I can sense muscle memory still making lolis by accident.

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3885998

>>3884447
go forth and loli no more

>> No.3886002
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>>3885956
You got my noggin jogging, anon. I think you’re onto something great.

>> No.3886044

>>3885590
source on artist or character? kinda liked it

>> No.3886049

>>3886044
BB from Fate/Extra: CCC.
The lore is that Type Moon decided to focus on Sakura Matou from Fate/stay night by making 3 clones who look just like her but are notably more sexual.

>> No.3886070

>>3886049
nice, thanks! deep lore too. haven't seen much fate stuff so couldn't identify her. also, if anyone else was interested, google gave me the artist, looked there last for some reason. it's olys011 on twitter.

also good luck OP with drawing more mature ladies. study some body types, remember proportions, and you'll get the hang of it and avoid getting arrested.

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>>3885491
>"sufficiently cartoony" doesn't mean shit
That depends on where you live. Only a shithole 70 iq avg country would think a drawing=real fucking life. In us there's a test for if the drawings have 'any' artistic value, and if they are far too close to a real-life minor. graphite on a 8x11 inch sheet of paper can and should not ever equate to real-life consequences, that's north korea tier shit. People who hunt others down for drawing loli need the brazen bull. Clearly they don't care about real-life pedophilia (which is what really matters) enough to switch their focus and energy on the real tragedies of supply and demand cp that HAS A VICTIM. They just want to stretch the umbrella to cover whatever hurts their feminist fee fees. In any case their feelings are volatile and should not be listened to because they are devoid of any proper reasoning.

>> No.3886385

>>3886372
>Clearly they don't care about real-life pedophilia (which is what really matters) enough to switch their focus and energy on the real tragedies of supply and demand cp that HAS A VICTIM

Don’t be silly. I have plenty of time in a day to hunt both kinds of childfucker.

>> No.3886390

>>3886385
Anon, there’s absolutely no need to be a keyboard warrior.

>> No.3886408

>>3886385
>both kinds of childfucker.
People who draw pornography of fictional child characters are not childfuckers, can't you defend your opinions without lying?

>> No.3886412

>>3885590
Again
>face proportions
It's impossible that she's over 18. Clearly.

>> No.3886437
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3886437

>>3886412
This is simply the direction that anime seeks.
Eyes get bigger, busts get bigger. All these choices done for the carnal.

>> No.3886529

>>3885956
aka raita

>> No.3886821

>>3884447
here's a few guidelines

>stop watching anime. start watching live action shows and porn
>read a shit ton of comics
>grind loomis and hampton
>join gesture drawing classes
>draw real girls in the wild

then afterwards you'll be drawing thicc as heck girls in no time.

>> No.3886823

>>3885590
artist source please?! she HOT!

>> No.3887462

>>3884447
I had the exact same problem and I'm not even a pedo, I just like my women short and big-assed. My recommendation is to make the ribcage and arms longer, just that alone always seems to help me a lot.

>> No.3887660

>>3884527
Lolicons sicken me but if you want to draw more adult looking women then go do figure studies of female models. Observe what makes their bodies mature and stylize it into your artwork.

Also loli is a gross fetish for sad people.