/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>3872665
saved

I've been a beg for years.

How do I draw glass? Like my eyes derp out and stop seeing the division of the coke bottle and the table what do?

>>3872685
thanks for let it us know

>>3872359

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8AGSutleiI

Posting some progress :)
How do you like my rendering?

>>3872728
It's beautful.

OP should just delete the thread. Someone among us finally made it.

>>3872728
very good. Technically sound

>>3872728
Shigeru Miyamoto, quit your job at Nintendo, this man just revolutionized art.

>>3872728
Not /beg/.

>>3872728
I'm really proud of you for internalizing the "nothing but a hard round brush" lesson.

>>3872753
he's prepared for /drawthread/

https://youtu.be/d696t3yALAY

>tfw you now understand how ZUN's sausage fingers happened
It's nice to know that now I can make authentic Touhou fanart. In other news, drawing human figure is fucking hard and it's going to become the bane of my existence for a long time. I'm not sure if Loomis actually expects me to copy his mannequin poses without screwing everything up royally, because that's not happening.

trying to draw a good ass. i'm having trouble figuring out whether each asscheek should overlap each thigh or vice versa. also having difficulty showing skindentation
as you can see im not that good with highlights either.

>>3872761
hands are tricky
but feet fucking destroy me
just keep looking at references and studies until it sticks

How do I draw hand gestures with a wooden mannequin?

>>3872772
If only you had a real life reference that you could manipulate to any position it can naturally go...

>>3872772
Use other sources as reference, like your own hands or pictures

>>3872787
Literally "draw the rest of the fucking owl".

>>3872805
brainlet

Is chicken scratching really that bad? Why do so many really good artists do it?

>>3872808
>t.retard who doesn't know that chickenstarching is

>>3872811
Is that what you do before you deep-fry them?

so. why exactly do these suck? and how do i do better?

here is another one. same questione...

>>3872848
It feels like you've been watching promo but not internalising anything he's said outside of "core shadows kul"

No edge variation, body looks stiff, almost as if you've constructed it out of cardboard boxes and toilet rolls and slapped random patterns on it that's supposed to represent muscles.

Aside from all that, proportions are off, especially by the head and feet.

>>3872728
>rendering
Epic

some imagination doodles

Ok I just drew this what do you think?
should I draw the rest of it?

>>3872877
noice

>>3872879
what the fuck is that

I finally got some free time so I drew my gf’s cat, how did I do?

>>3872879
Is this a perspective study?

>>3872882
nose looks a bit too wide and the muzzle looks a bit tilted.

took a break from boxes to try some moeshit
I think the one circled in red looks okay

>>3872881
>>3872884
someone here told me to draw "box mannequins"
I think it turned out pretty good

>>3872766
posting progress, it's a bit messy but the ideas there
my ultimate goal is to be able to make clean lineless renders

>>3872968
ESL beginner here.
What do you mean by lineless renders?

>>3872968
>>3872766
I'd fap to it

>>3872848
>>3872849
The way you shade your values is flat. I think you're still at the level of copying the shadows as flat shapes and not thinking about light and form yet and why the shadows are what they are, what kind of structure they're conveying, and so on. Take the next step and learn how light form value work. Proko has some vids on this on youtube, and there are some basic tutorials on form and value.
Aside from that, there are proportional issues here and there but overall good job. Keep it up.

>>3872984
i'm used to relying on lines to define the forms of the things i draw (like pic related, top example), but i want to learn to render without lines (bottom example) because i think it would look better if i can get good at it

reposting
I'm all over the place

>>3873055
Don't go for the messy style because right now it's just being done to hide the issues. Measurements and symmetry are all over the place, which look worse because of the mess. The shape of the features are not at all matching the reference. The shadows and highlights are placed randomly. You can still achieve a messy and minimalist aesthetic by working clean and precise in the beginning. Simplify the face down to its most basic parts. What are the main areas of shadow? What is their shape?
If you want to use that black streak brush, use it on the shadows areas like the neck, beneath the browridge, under the nose, shape of the upper lip, etc. The black should be used to emphasize the shadows that way you still get the form. Then place your highlights on the opposite areas of the shadow. The ref also has a gradient where the top half of the face is brighter than the bottom half. How do you show this in your painting with those different shades of blue you have?

>>3873072
thanks for the advice m9
I never really concentrate into thinking while drawing
I'm just rush to finish for whatever reason

Asanagi copy 30 mins.

How do I know if an art class is priced right? How much are they in y'all's areas?

>>3872772
Wooden mannequins are meant for studying light, not anatomy.

thinks?

any thinks

>>3873084
I want to snorf under Tone's pelvic curtain.

does anyone work exclusively on a single layer? i have a problem where every time i draw a sketch i have several dozen copies of it with various changes i have made to it (i make a copy each time because i'm scared i'll regret it down the line)
that's just sketches, theres still lineart and all the color shit
lineart is my kryptonite, i redo 90% of the strokes i make, several times per stroke. i have been trying to learn other methods of drawing like rendering straight from a sketch, in order to avoid having to do lineart. i'm still completely shit at that too.
i don't know what my endgame is, i have no idea what sort of style i am building towards. drawing is more often stressful than fun when you spend a few days putting off doing it because youre scared to fail, and when you actually do it you're shit.
i think ill just go back to focusing on lineart. the thing is my sketches are always better, so it might be better to just clean my sketches rather than try to do a new lineart layer
pic unrelated, just an old sketch i found

>>3873111
Yeah, im pretty terrified of moving to lineart. I try to drag it out the draft as long as possible until I lose interest. Its a problem. I really need to learn line weight.

>>3873117
what in the ever loving fuck is going on with that right thigh/inside of the pelvis

>>3873094
I just take them at my local community college. Like maybe $200 a semester, more or less. Do do art school, kids. Also, just say "your." Its 3 keystrokes less.

>>3873117
hot

When should I start, and how much time should I spend on, drawing from imagination? I've seen a lot of improvement in drawing from reference, but my drawings from imagination have hardly improved at all. I don't want to be another Proko.

This is the first time i've 'coloured' a drawing in ps. Mostly work in grayscale. While im kinda satisfied with how the body is done, how do i make it look glossy? And can anyone please help me out with the wheels? The reference had almost chrome level reflective wheels. I put the spoke guides in the rear wheel according to scott robertson's method but now i cant really draw the spokes themselves, let alone render the chrome. Also, how do you guys feel about it in general?

>>3873125
"Y'all's" rolls off of my hick tongue better

>>3873145
Personally I think drawing from imagination is something you should be doing all the time for a healthy and balanced "art diet" and is necessary to keep yourself happy with your art. I always have one day at the end of the week dedicated as a 'fun drawing day' where i don't worry about studying new concepts or practicing and instead just have fun drawing whatever i want, which in most cases is from imagination and can be considered synonymous with 'fun day'. It's great for experimenting with concepts i learned that week while getting me to use them together more, solidifying the information better, while also reinvigorating my passion for drawing because it provides me the freedom to just draw, which releases any tension or frustration that usually comes from harder more focused studying.
How often you set aside the time for 'fun drawing' is really up to you.

How does armor reflection work?

>>3873205

>>3872686
Treat glass like a weird round mirror, it always reflects the general lighting in the area just stretched upwards along its surface. There is always a hard edge at the bottom.

>>3872877
>some imagination doodles
>dat pic
NOT /BEG/! why are you even here?

>Can't fully into poses
Does anyone feel when thinking about a pose, and disappears after a few moments? Does this improve or what? Hopefully people who have actually gained experience/who have heard or read from people who have experience chime in.

>>3873230
It's easier to think in simple terms, like standing with hand on hip, instead of conjuring up a fully fledged pose in your imagination and trying to keep it there.

>>3872968
>>3872766
I would add more midtones and shadow tones to the first three ones, the jump between midtone and the highlight is too great.

The second one is coming out fin on the shadow side now add more lighter tones gently. But correct the part where the cloth stripe is, gives of the feel of having "triple ass." Which could be intentional if that is someone's fetish but not relevant to this image.

pic my shitty attempt

>>3873249
Looks nice. Looks glossy as well.

>>3873249
Wait this isn't fanart for the triple breasted whore of Eroticon six? Thought the 3 ass cheeks were intentional.

Please help, I still don't understand how I managed to fail this. I watched a ton of videos about cylinders and wheels and still can't understand how it works.

>>3873084
this type of copying doesnt help you improve, not saying you shouldnt do it but challenging yourself is important

>>3873106
i think use the whole page to make a portrait and forget about quantity.

>>3873111
nice trips. yeah actually i work on a single layer, of paper, with a pencil. it makes you feel better and you dont feel like erasing 90 percent of your strokes

>>3873111
Anon it is completely fine that you do not have specific goals. You in the process of discovering and experimenting, so it is natural that you are a bit lost. Just keep exploring your own are and the art of others and communicating with others. Sooner or later you will find what you seek

Keep going and have no fear we all have periods when we loose our way and find it again eventually.

>>3873220
Am too cunt. Realise the depth of art

>>3872998
yeah, the thing is copying shapes is something i understand. but calculating the shadows seems almost impossible on this scale. i used to study architecture and well... pic related. just for one sliced orb. and i know im not suposed to calculate, i should have a feel for it, but i dont. yet.

>>3873220
Why should there be a difference between drawing from life and drawing from imagination? Once that bridge is crossed you start making art

>>3873230
She is a qt!

I would suggest a few things when dealing with poses. Gesture (obviously) to give the pose a basic flow which will help you achieve the next things which is Balance, make the character is more or less standing in a way that she isn't tripping over (too much) On your I put the legs slightly wider to help this because she is leaning towards the left. A good rule of thumb it to match the feet positions with the shoulder positions. Finally perspective, make sure you curve the parts up/down the right way. The feet usually curve strongly downwards unless it is a lower or far away shot which squishes the perspective.

Would also suggest anatomy but that is a no brainer so I'll skip that.

Please continue Anon!

>> 3873308
Thank you Anon. Even more for the corrections drawn. So, in short, just to make sure I get all your points-
> Make gesture
> Balance and center of gravity
I don't know if I understand this-
>Finally perspective, make sure you curve the parts up/down the right way. The feet usually curve strongly downwards unless it is a lower or far away shot which squishes the perspective.
Which part of the feet curve exactly? You have made a lot of corrections, so I'm having difficulties telling what you're talking about, sorry
> Anatomy
Yeah- I'm still working on it, I'm on the torso now(pic).
>Please continue Anon!
Thanks, I appreciate the push a lot.

>>3873336
meant for >>3873308

>>3873336
>>3873308
ah, do you mean these parts? If so, I can see that- thanks. I suppose internalizing perspective is also something I should add to my list. Also, great linework- thanks again.

is there a feel of depth and three dimensionality?

How's my Loomis?

>>3873371
Pretty good, I think.

So how do you guys draw chicks and shit while you live with your GF/SO?

Like, do you just work on that while she's asleep or out of the house? What's the game plan if she finds them?

>>3873377
are you fucking 12? I'm literally sitting next to my GF drawing acts of naked women its not like I'm jerking off right here

>>3873377
if i was dating a girl and she gave me any sort of lip over a fucking drawing i was working on, the relationship would probably be over pretty quick. dont be a retard

>>3873384
>>3873379
My life is fin

>>3873368
sort of? draw larger with more clarity, work on the values more. a4 is too small for a good drawing. erase more, take 1 step forward and 2 steps back where necessary

>>3873386
relax

>>3873390
i see, it's very hard for me to get the drawing so BIG, also hard for me to find high res references of the inds of pcis im looking for
thanks anyway anon

>>3873394
She has BPD and self esteem/image issues. We're still together because we have a special needs 5 year old. My life has been an act of walking on eggshells for years now.

>>3873371
too mathematical. these weird blueprints arent going to help you make beautiful art one bit. i'd avoid going into so much mathematical detail with it.

>>3873399
is there a legal thing you can do? can you take care of the kid yourself? if so, ask around, learn law, get rid of her, bpd will bring you fucking down, you either safe yourself or you get both ruinde nigga, do something, dont just sit around like a sheep

>>3873399
you had a kid with a "bpd" girl.
im sorry man. that really sucks.

>>3873336
>>3873367
Ok this is a but long to explain for this board but I'll try.

The center of gravity/center of weight is the point where the body's balance point is. If that is not properly supported by something it will fall over easy to understand right. What is important to get with a standing pose is that it is roughly balanced otherwise it will convey the effect that it is in motion, which is not wrong but that is for moving falling poses, if the body is in motion then it doesn't need to be supported of course, The key is to arrange the body in a way that it is standing balanced without falling over (Unless you are aiming for that).

On the feet, this is a perspective question. The rules goes that the rather you are from the horizon line the more you see shape's base in the case of a cylinder this is a circle, in the case of feet it is a the soles. The angle of the soles compared to the body is an indicator of how far you are from the person because the closer you are the steeper the perspective gets. Making the feel angle more down gives of the feeling of being closer provided you adjust the body's perspective to it and can draw the eyes to the focal point of the body. You can try this if you have full body mirror stand close and then stand far and look at your feet and look at how the angle changes as your perceive the ground in the mirror the closer you move the more steep the angle will be. The exaggerated perspective can give it a more 3d feel but that is not necessarily needed or accurate.

>>3873377
It is just a fucking drawing if your GF gets jealous over a fucking drawing then she has got problems.

>>3873396
it doesnt have to be huge. the resolution doesnt need to be particularly large either. this drawing im doings reference photo for example is low res and that means that instead of copying in painful detail, i create detail based off of the photos suggestion, which means ur learning to draw and not to copy

>>3873399
Wow shit Anon, you must be a an amazingly good person to put up with all that hardship. Damn I would hug you now... nohomo

>>3873410
>that pic
Thanks a ton. Can't thank enough. I'm still trying to get used to applying center of gravity. You also made me realize that I was basically drawing in isometric in random places, not considering perspective at all. Will definitely try my best to think about all these things while drawing. Thanks again.

>>3873413
i see, i tried to go bigger, something like this ?

>>3873428
sorry for size, I'm the big retard

>>3873125
I meant *Dont do art school.

>>3873377
The absolute state of het shits

>>3873419
You are welcome just don't go overboard with it, consider the horizon line and your reason for putting it low or high. If you put it high it will give the feeling of looking down to the character which communicates that the character is small/short and puts the character into a more friendly vulnerable position compared to the viewer. Likewise if you put the horizon line low and make the viewer look upwards to the character that gives the feeling that the character is taller/powerful and is in a dominant potion.

Remember, these are not always hard and stone carved rules pictures are way more complex than this but they are effective to convey emotions with your picture by using the perspective and the fundamental emotions the point of view convey to the viewer.

>>3873410
Good read.

>>3873399
And you think other people here have to deal with your incredibly specific set of circumstances?

Anyone else have trouble drawing the "chopped off" oval correctly when constructing heads?

I have trouble understanding how to place it correctly, even more so on extreme angles.

>>3872808
Good artists don't chiken scratch. Watch some Jim Lee videos to see the difference. When he seemingly chicken scratches he is actually building the volume and guides to show to himself where and how to ink.

That's the difference between sketching and chicken scratch - in a sketch lines have a purpose.

>>3872808
you might be confusing chicken scratching with sketching the two aren't the same.

>>3872808
I repeat the same thing every time someone brings up chicken scratching: it's not inherently bad, IF it's done intentionally. Most of the time when you see /beg/s chicken scratching, it's because they CAN'T draw any other way. You don't want your toolbox to be limited, you want to be able to make any kind of line you want and then choose what's appropriate for the situation.

Chicken scratching is fine in an exploratory sketch, part of the point of sketching is that you don't know what the end product is supposed to look like so some of your lines will be correct and some won't and you'll have to draw over them. But try inking a page for a comic book with chicken scratch technique and see how that works out. It's all about choosing the appropriate tool to get the result you want.

Should I get lead holder pen?
I can draw 2 lines before I need to resharpen my normal pen. Does lead holder help with that?

Hi! I just got a recommendation to post in this thread. I have a dedicated thread bu I will try this one also.

I need feedback and opinion on this concept ;) .

I'm in the middle of my new project. It will be 3d real-rime character in futuristic/cyberpunk convention. She's a freelancer/mercenary/enforcer to hire. Not nessesary a gun to hire, but someone who make thinks done. I'm stuck on clothes concepting. I made few iterations across 2 months but I'm still not certain about this design.

I will be very glad for your opinions, feelings about concept, feedback, tipsand criticue. I'm not a professional concept artist but I want to go throught whole creation process this time. Feel free to post what's on your mind :) .

>>3873371
Looks cool

>>3873533
Original thread: >>3873511

doodlin' n grindin'

>>3873533
>She's a freelancer/mercenary/enforcer to hire. Not nessesary a gun to hire, but someone who make thinks done. I'm stuck on clothes concepting. I made few iterations across 2 months but I'm still not certain about this design.
It would be helpful to know more about her past/history/personality/expertise and the base the gear in connection to that.

>>3873545
Wow, I didn't crossed my mind. Indeed adding some history is important. Thank for a tip!

>>3872808
your lines should always have a clear direction and intention. if you have to scribble a form until something competent appears, go for it, but you can't leave it at that. you have to have some indication of a single direction. if it's too ambiguous, as in "chicken scratching", it's just poor and you never had a well thought out drawing in the first place.

>>3873170
Thanks for the advice. I wasn't asking about drawing for fun per se, but I think this still answers my question.

>>3873125
>>3873167
I don't like either of your guys's opinions.

>>3872808
By making lines thicker you can imitate shadowed areas. Also Thicker lines accent main form, whitch is most importand. Thiner lines are seen secondary and usually give some subtle details, things to catch eye on later. When everything is messy, the form is not defined, it's foggy. It's often also a way to hide mistakes (when someone is not able to draw something, he made a bunch of random lines to imitate form). Putting every line is a decision making, good use of it can improve artwork.

>>3872808
But remember that loose, messy sketchy form can be very expressive and interesting. There is no "god or bad thing" in art, It's just a decision making. If you make something by a reason it will improve your artwork. If it's just a randomness it usually weakens efect. Not saying that randomness is bad :) .

>>3873533
how about this Anon? I most added pouches and random gear like knee-pads elbow-pads to help her when in a rush. Added shades to make it more "edgy"

>>3873274
Welp.

>>3873584
Hmm... I didn't mentioned that I wanted her too look more casual, be able to disappear in the crowd. But adding some more armor can be nice improvement, I will think about it. Thanks for sharing ideas :) .

>>3873161
good shit anon

What should I work on linework wise? Everything I'm doing from imagination looks much better before I take away the armature.

>>3873622
forgot pic

>>3873584
the hairstyle makes me cringe. What's with cyberpunk and everyone having the same retarded undercut?

>>3873625
You are right. I changed it but forgot to include.It's about making it more "cyberpunkish" but in a no-brainer way. Same story with this bald-sides viking haircut.

How do i get better at construction? Also do I need to start with a gesture drawing then do the construction on top or do i start with construction right away?

>>3873645
I usually start with construction and over-emphasize form, to make gesture drawing easier.

Lower legs (below knee) looks too short for me but I may be wrong.

here is nice tutorial: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2SmQg4Lss4

Quick sketch while writing in the work

>>3873404
Financially there's not much I can do. Neither of us have a job because we're both getting assistance from the government as 'Full time carers' for our child.

>>3873459
She seems to think that this is normal and rational.

>>3873405
People tried to warn me when I was 15 (25 now). I didn't know how bad it could be. I thought love, patience and understanding would be enough. I broke.

>>3873415
I thought I was. Shit became too much and I ended up seeking comfort from an online relationship with a twink. So I guess homo would be fine?

I know cheating on her was wrong and I've created this hell for myself.

I just need to get it off my chest every now and then.

Here is my sketch for a hayao miyazaki reference study. Are the proportions relatively accurate, and if not, where specifically are they messed up?

Here is my sketch for a hayao miyazaki reference study. Are the proportions relatively accurate, and if not, where specifically are they messed up?

Here is my study of hayao miyazaki in progress. Are the proportions alright, and if not, what specifically is off?

>>3873664
Also, here is the original photo I used.

>>3873664
His head tilts slightly to the left in the photo, while your head is just looking straight on, straight up and down. It's a common mistake to want to flatten everything out and make things straight.

>>3873161
don't use black for shading the yellow paint, try dark orange or something

>>3873249
what kind of brush did you use there?

>>3873544
faces and expressions look really nice

>>3873613
Thanks for the kind words!

>>3873841
Yeah i realised that after i had been far enough into it. Something i'll definitely remember next time!

Can anyone point me to some good source for wheels? I tried drawing a wheel seperately and putting it on the car after warping it. Didnt really turn out too good.

Is it wrong that I fear that I'm focusing too much on fundamentals that I will not develop a style to my liking? Mainly focusing on figure drawing and perspective to eventually draw fanarts and comics by the way.

>>3873885
"Style" is something that "emerges" Anon. You will have a style as time goes by ad it will be to your likeing but at the same time you will hate it depending on how self conscious you are about yourself. NO matter what it will be a love-hate relationship. Fundamentals will only enhance that, so there is absolutely no need to worry about it, it will all take care of itself.

>>3873883
Pic related is the first one i attempted. Im just trying to improve a bit over every previous one. Can a based anon point out some flaws i missed that are common to both this and the rx8?
I personally think the reflections came out better even with the shitty lines as there were no colours involved.

>>3873889
Really impressive Anon

Is everything I work on always going to feel inanely difficult, or will there be a point, where like riding a bike, things will fall in place and the straights and curves of a stained glass vase become a struggle of texture and shading instead of having trouble capturing it's shape and curvature?

also how tf do I draw the curvature of glass?

i am doing the draw a box studies, should i keep trying to draw from shoulder?
it really feels weird and i have no drawing skills this way

>>3873942
Yes

how many values should one use for coloring any given object? how extensive should the used swatch be? like if you were doing a grayscale painting i think you'd probably have black, a dark gray, a middling gray, a light gray and maybe white for highlights. every additional value increases the complexity of the piece and the range of things you can do with it, but at what point does it become too needlessly extensive?

how to not draw bad

>>3873828
Poor girl, her left arm is broken at the elbow. And her right hand is positioned in a way that looks very uncomfortable to rest on.

>>3874109
Loomis.
The answer is always Loomis.

>>3874123
Loomis is famous for his books, but many people forget how good and influential his art actually was. It's pure Americana.

Tried drawing grandpa after skimming through Loomis. How the fuck do I draw eyes this is bullshit what the fuck

>>3874139
Looks great, Anon.

what should I focus on more next time? no pose ref

>>3874160
loomis

>>3873880
ty I appreciate it

>>3874160
based on

>>3874160
using references

Going to keep posting until asanagi notices me

>>3874188

>>3874192
Lol stay shit

>>3874192
Also using a bill Nye meme lmfao are you like 40?

>>3874192
Using a captioned bill Nye meme in 2019. Are you like a literal Boomer?

Been trying to do a Jane Jacobs sketch - not directly coping the image, but atleast getting her facial features right.

I can already tell that the general facial structure seems too narrow, but I'm unsure if the more square-ish linestyle is impractical. Any obvious flaws that stand out?

>>3874188
>he's still here

>>3874208
Your lines are so broken, it looks like you drew that in ASCII

>>3874222
>>3874208
this is like a really strange version of chickenscratch where each line is broken into a segment but you don't overlap the old segments

>>3874222
>>3874225
I intentionally began breaking them, because I read that facial structures are far more linear than people often think. I can see what you mean, it looks silly.

I should say, it's my first time trying a drawing tablet, so to me, longer lines are very difficult to execute flawlessly.

Hey bros, reminder that the best resources are actually free. Never pay for your art education unless it's something strictly specialized.

>>3874233
Lines aren't separated any more, although it might've become worse now?

>>3874188
>uses reference
>still chicken scratches

hi im looking for references similar to pic related
i find i learn best from the box type of mannequin construction

Can someone help teach me how to be more patient? Because I'm taking "ruining your own art" to another level

best books on drawing what you see besides bert dodson and betty edwards?

>>3874296
>leg joints placement

booga booga

>>3874302
The way I learnt was drawing my entire visual field, or as much as you can. Then doing it again and again.
Be accurate as well, get the correct number of planks on the floor, or draw all the wires, whatever it is.

>>3874319
This is why the wooden bloody dolls are worthless.

>>3874340
Depends, the spherical forms allow for great edge variation, good for value studies

Can anyone give me some advice on pencil brushes while sketching in photoshop? Trying to get my digital workflow down

I don't much like the actual "pencil" tool because it doesn't seem to react to pressure from the stylus, so I downloaded a few pencil brushes. What I didn't realize is that they actually mimic a real pencil in that they get thicker over time so you "sharpen" them by reselecting the tool. I was really annoyed to discover this as it was so gradual I didn't realize until I'd lost my original lines to the later, thicker ones.

Surely there's some simple pencil or brush that everyone uses for a loose construction/mannequinization phase and I'm just retarded? Bullying welcome on my shitty heads. Thank you

>>3874302
It appears you want to learn to draw in an anime or cartoony style.

This begins by learning traditional forms so you know the human body, perspective, and shapes so well that you can then take that knowledge and use it to make anime/cartoon representations.

You will never get more patient. Patience and motivation are for idiots.

What you want is discipline. FORCE yourself to slow down, think, visualize, meditate, and read. You can keep looking for the magic way to get patience, or you can force yourself to be patient, until it is muscle memory.

A good exercise based on your drawing would be Drawabox. Google it. There's a 250 box challenge that will get you started (BUT FIRST READ THE LESSONS BEFOREHAND, AND PRACTICE.) You will need to read for hours, sit and think, and take regular breaks. And remember to think and listen, and forget what you know. You know nothing.

This will teach you to take your time, and get rid of that furry line you're drawing in favor of a more powerful line, with purpose.

Take the Drawabox knowledge,and then apply that to 3D human (real human, not art or anime) forms. Every fifth full-bodied person (even the hard parts - hands, feet, faces, etc) look at an artist you like, and copy the form one time. Then, apply their style to a picture of a real person. Do this for as many hours a day you can. I try at least 2.5 - 5 hours daily, and am improving painfully, but quickly.

That sounds like it's hard, doesn't it?

Learn discipline. Force yourself to work. Make pain your friend.

Or, don't. Without discipline and hard work for hours on end - spent studying reality - you will never improve.

When you have mastered reality, you can use your mind to create your own style of anime or cartoon. AFTER you master the perspective, forms, and volume reality confines you to.

But it will be painful.

>>3874319
plz tell me why i have wronged

>>3874345
This is good too, but remember it’s possible to do it joyfully and at peace. You don’t have to be all RARGH DISCIPLINE! THE PAIN DRIVES ME FURTHER!

Trying to get a better handle on 3d form and proportions in 3d space.

Having some real trouble with measurement and overlapping volumes - for example, curved surfaces foreshortening are not going too well.

Any advice welcome, thank you.

I have a friend who I think is good at art or has the potential to be good but he refuses to use construction and can't make sense of the underlying construction pics I've shown him. He prefers to just draw as he thinks things look, and I think he's generally pretty close but I dunno, there's just something slightly off about his figures, they look kind of flat.
I can't really post his work because I'm pretty sure he browses here and I don't want to be a dick when I can't even say why specifically I think things are wrong.
Any good books or videos I could watch to try and introduce the value of constructing figures to him?
no, this person isn't me

>>3874352
Focus on yourself. If you’ve shown him another way and doesn’t see the value in it yet, then just leave him. There’s a 100 ways to fuck a cat, and not all of them involve construction.

>>3874290
what the fuck are you even doing man? get used to long and clean lines, then if you want, you can go deeper into the rabbit hole by studying smooth lines that increase in thickness depending on what is being drawn. Not this mental gymnastics broken lines because of some bs.

>>3874343
nobody uses a shitty pencil tool, newbie. Go for a round brush for starters. Stop chicken scratching, practice long smooth and clean lines.

>>3874352
why is he living rent free in your head. focus on your art. Shitters will either stay as shitters or eventually grow up and figure out studying books is necessary.
this thread is emotionally-draining. Jesus christ you faggots

>>3874356
thank you mr president i'll practice my lines

>>3874356
based president bush is tough but fair
2019 and we still chicken scratching

we need a nuke

>>3874356
based Bush

>>3874356
thank you president bush

>>3874347
try using your mannequin to draw a fetal position

Currently drawing the guys who frequent a speficic type of thread of /fit/.

Apart from obvious chicken thingy, what should I improve on?

Reposting.
I know i missed something but i can't point my finger on it except that it looks "dull".

Can someone help me with proportions? I see very different ways of doing people and I'm wondering which is really best.

I see some people using 7 in their art (mainly anime) but loomis recommends stuff like 8 for heroic figures and 7.5 for fashion ones iirc.

I guess another question would be if I really have these correct. Once the head is setup as the basic unit do I then do half the head for the neck or another entire head for the neck + upper torso?

>>3874296
sorta like this I think

>>3874439
Or this

>>3874439
thanks, blessings upon you, stranger

>>3874430
are the plants made of japanese genitals bc i can't see them so blurry

>>3874446
They're supposed to be a forest. Would it improve if i made clean lines around them?

>>3874452
they should at least match the detail of the cliffs

>>3874452
I like how you showed form, but maybe look at reference for forests/mangroves/island trees. They're not blobs of pure color, they're sloppy, broken, branches here and there, layers, etc.

>>3872768
Feet finally clicked with me just the other day. Theres one little thing that i noticed that made it all so clear to me. Will post my profound revelation later.

>>3873403
ngmi

>>3874455
>>3874463
Should be somewhat better but i think i should now redo the cliffs or soften up the trees or redo the trees alltogether and redo the flower.

when practicing life drawing, should i start on more basic items such as apples and whot not and then draw faces and such when i'm more experienced or does it not mattter?

>>3874637
You'd think that wouldn't you? But no buddy, you're supposed to find the most elaborate Chinese cartoon styled porn image of twitter and mindlessly chicken scratch your way around the contours while autistically foaming because "you just can't get the cheek line right".

>>3874643
no need to be a dick about it

>>3874476
Post now and get unlimited likes.

Are outlines bad?

>>3874692
"Outline" (contour) has a purpose like any other tool.

Your figure is a midget btw.

I've been grinding through Drawbox for a week now, just a few hours a day whenever I have time.

Finally sat down and took a break from that just to do some drawing, first time since starting Drawbox.

I did the figure on the left in about 15 minutes compared to the figure on the right I did before drawbox that took me like 40 minutes. Most of that was just trying to get the lines down on the page.

Anatomy is a complete wash so any suggestions would be appreciated. Still going over Loomis.

Honestly I'm just glad I'm not chicken scratching anymore, even if it's still messy as fuck.

>>3874800
Good week anon keep it up! Have a Like!

>>3874800
Yep, there's some improvement there. For anatomy, start with proportions, will ya

>>3874807
>>3874808
Thanks guys, I just wanted to make sure it wasn't just in my head.

Some things I know I missed with anatomy is
>thighs too long
>shine too short
>head like twice the size it should be (I kind like it though)
>arm too thinnish

I also just need to learn basic muscleture in general. That can wait though. It's time to draw just for fun.

>>3874811
Other basic stuff is: boobs too low, waist too low, arms too long. Open the page in loomis with the standard proportions and draw based on it a few times. Even if you want to exaggerate some parts you should be able to deduce the regular size.

>>3874811
>Some things I know I missed with anatomy is
>>thighs too long
>>shine too short
>>head like twice the size it should be (I kind like it though)
>>arm too thinnish
This is proportion. Get your terminology straight.

How the fuck do you construct a head?
I've been trying the Loomis way so many times, and a shit ton of different online tutorials, but I just can't get it in my fucking head.

Any tips for a desperate student?

>>3874854
Your description is too general, we need more information please.

how do i save this :(

>>3874854
like most /beg/gars you probably skipped perspective and construction of simpler objects, but like the other guy said, post your attempts

>>3874859
you dont. Move on to the next drawing, and make sure you do your next drawing better.

100 heads challenge, my first five heads.

>>3874865
what can i do better? i know it looks wrong but i cant figure out why it looks wrong.

>>3874857
>>3874860

Page 39 of "Fun with a Pencil", he tells you how to construct the head.
I've been reading this over and over, but I just do not understand.

"Divide middle line into four parts that appear equal to half the distance from Browline to top of ball."

Where do you start counting the four parts? Is it from the brow line, or hair line? I assume it's the brow line, but he only illustrates 3 lines from the brow, that confuses me.

"Slice off sides by dropping earline straight down"

What? Drop it straight down, that's it? How the fuck do you even know where to put the oval signifying that the side of the head is "chopped off"?

"Middle line and earline are now parallel"

No they aren't, the top of the middle line bends, the earline doesn't. Does he mean just in the middle? And what am I supposed to learn from this fact?

"The eyeline now drops below the "equator" which is now the brow line".

Where did the eyeline come from? He hasn't mentioned this previously, how do you calculate how big the eyeline should be compared to the other lines? (Brow, nose and chin lines)

"Establish noseline in middle of plane to run around to ear. Ear fastens on at intersection of eye and ear lines. Plane stops just short of ear. Top of ear touches browline. The skull protrudes slightly from ball at back of head. It's easy."

Most of the instructions here makes perfect sense, I can follow them. But what "plane" is he mentioning? Where does it come from, what is it even? What is it used for?

>>3874870
woah i love your style, if you finished some of these its definately not /beg/ tier

>>3874859
Good shit Anon ink is hard so it is good that you are pushing it! Are you the mob psycho Anon that posted his stuff in the past btw?

You do not need to save it, it is not that bad just unfinished. The head is bit too small especially the face area but it passable for animu If you are doing ink you ended a LOT of ink. Add more shadows to make the shapes more apparent and cohesive. Currently you have patches that do not fit together into a whole that is what makes you and the viewer feel lost.

How about this?

>>3874859
good job, but move on
volume > quality (that doesnt mean youre not supposed to try

>>3874876
git gud on the folds on the clothes and on where to actually place the shadows.
if you aren't planning to cross to digital, you should atleast do something about that ink quality. What pen did you use for this? Why does it look crude? Did you draw small? You might want to draw larger next time because you can only put so much details on a small sized drawing and your nib size.

>>3874882
> I assume it's the brow line, but he only illustrates 3 lines from the brow, that confuses me
3 lines divide middle line in 4 parts, what confusing about it?
>How the fuck do you even know where to put the oval signifying that the side of the head is "chopped off"?
look at the image, top of the ellipse is the same height as hairline, bottom is on the same height as nose line
this is where your knowledge of perspective and construction should come in, read Scott Robertson's book posted above on it
>Does he mean just in the middle?
yes; no matter how you turn the head these lines will never intersect on paper
>And what am I supposed to learn from this fact?
Loomis prefers to teach by showing, not by telling, you are not the first person to complain about it; if it bothers you too much you can try any other tutor, Loomis isn't some universal messiah for everyone
>Where did the eyeline come from? He hasn't mentioned this previously, how do you calculate how big the eyeline should be compared to the other lines? (Brow, nose and chin lines)
it's about 1/3 of the distance between brow and nose lines (closer to brow line)
>But what "plane" is he mentioning?
that the contour line around the face on the same height as nose line, used to roughly describe form of the cheeks and give the sketch clearer form

>>3874882
This is really hard to follow indeed
>Where do you start counting the four parts? Is it from the brow line, or hair line? I assume it's the brow line, but he only illustrates 3 lines from the brow, that confuses me.
1) maybe not sure

>What? Drop it straight down, that's it? How the fuck do you even know where to put the oval signifying that the side of the head is "chopped off"?
2 )maybe not sure

>No they aren't, the top of the middle line bends, the earline doesn't. Does he mean just in the middle? And what am I supposed to learn from this fact?
3) I think this is what he means

>Where did the eyeline come from? He hasn't mentioned this previously, how do you calculate how big the eyeline should be compared to the other lines? (Brow, nose and chin lines)
4) The eyeline is usually at the halfway between the top of the head and bottom of the chin. Not clear from this but he may have mentioned it in the previous pages

>Most of the instructions here makes perfect sense, I can follow them. But what "plane" is he mentioning? Where does it come from, what is it even? What is it used for?
5)I think this is what he means because he refers to p41 where he adjust "the plane".

This is what I think he means but could be wrong.

>Wake up today
>Draw as usual
>Check out /ic/, see the usual anime artwork posted here and there
>Something is wrong
>Begin feeling different
>Every single time I see anime style now, it evokes a powerful cringe inducing disgust within me
>Embarrassed to browse /ic/ for long periods like I used to due to viewing these images
>Drawing a lot more lately because of it
>Absolutely detest anime now, having trouble watching it with no signs of my taste changing its path
What the fuck is wrong with me

>>3874913
You have become and elitist faggot that thinks Loomis is superior to anime and people that draws anime are lazy unskilled faggots that do not deserve their success.

Congratulations Anon your dream came true you have finally became the staple /ic/ regular on every level except the physical.

Happy april fool's!

>>3874913
big yikes

>>3874883
Thank you,,,
I plan on painting some of them around the end of the challenge. I'm actually very uncomfortable with drawing faces, that's why I'm forcing myself to do this.

Do you guys have any suggestions for a nice thick linework brush in Krita?

All the presets seem to vary too wildly or not at all with even small amounts of pressure applied. I did mess around with my tablets pressure settings but all this seems to do is cancel out any variance, unless I try stab my tablet to death, or make even the lightest line a massively thick block.

My tablet is a Huion 8610Pro

except for the ones marked with a red dot, all took 5 minutes or less and are from a 65 minute session
what should I focus on improving? where does my biggest weakness seem to be based on this collage? be merciless, red lines appreciated
thank you anons and have a good day

>>3874939
Reset pressure settings in the Huion driver, krita, and where else you have changed it.

>>3873274
The minor axis of the ellipse should be aligned with the perspective line perpendicular to that plane anon. Refer Scott Robertson's 'How to Draw'. It details ellipses in perspective pretty well

I can't post on nsfw boards without disabling adblock and catalogue is fucked wtf.

Zinlim eye study/Sargent study/Portrait.

Do you draw your characters first and then the environment around them or the environment first and then add characters?

Anyone have a good video tutorial for drawing rotated objects in perspective? I can't wrap my head around it. Say I'm drawing a bedroom in 1 point perspective. A lot of the furniture is lined up with the walls so it's all going to the same vanishing point. Then I want a chair in the corner at 45 degrees. What do I do then?

I need some advice and feedback about this sketches. I been doing this during the morning

>>3874913
You have ascended. I still very much appreciate manga and anime for what it is but a lot of those prominent artists of the genre put their noses to the grindstone fundamentally first. A lot of people here want a shortcut, they want to become anime/manga Gods right this minute. They are pathetic and will grow and learn slowly; So slowly that they'll still have the same struggles well into their 50s. Pathetic really. Carry on.

>>3875042
The chair will have 2 vanishing points. You can use something like pic related to figure out where they are. With 1-point perspective the 45 degrees rotation vanishing points are on equal distances from the middle. How close they are to the middle decides how much distortion you have.

>>3875051
g-guys any (you) ?

>>3875066
You posted less than 20min ago cmon.

>>3875018
>portait from a creepshot
That's the kind of stuff that grants you a restrictive order

>>3875051
Eyes are uneven, in the full body pick the should be parallel to the ground, while in the head close up her right eye(left from your pov) it should be lower than the other and slightly compressed horizontally. Blue sketch looks good

>>3875069
Also forearm and elbow should be drawn from the side, while they're in frontal view

>>3873625
While you weren't looking, you became old. You are now The Man that everyone is railing against.<div class="like-perk-cnt"><img alt="" width="160" height="160" src="//s.4cdn.org/image/partyhat.gif"></div>

>>3875060
Say I want to draw a space as cluttered as this. The view would be from inside of the room, not isometric like the picture. With all the skewed clutter lying around, how do I not end up with a page just completely covered in guidelines? Would I just do the large forms in perspective and eyeball the rest?

>>3875092
With scenes like that you can get away with not drawing every single guideline since the objects are placed quite randomly anyway. I personally would figure out the most important vp's for the biggest objects and eyeball the rest. Obviously the more experience you have, the easier it becomes to rotate objects without guidelines.

>>3875018
>I can't post on nsfw boards without disabling adblock and catalogue is fucked wtf.
April fools!
Apparently /vip/'s solved it, I probably should have saved it when I first saw the image

>>>/wsr/648729
>>>/vip/90353

>>3875092
I made this a while ago.
First I made a sketch of roughly what things I imagined It will have the room
I will post the sketch too so you can have an idea

>>3875158

>>3875161
then I made a simple perspectivated box on top of the sketch a guide for every other straight line. Hope this helps

what am I doing wrong anons?

>>3875184
legs are really fucking long
otherwise okay for quick doodle

>>3874409
Can drawing fit guys really be good anatomy practice? What thread do you use?

>>3875188
Any study from photos of real life people is good anatomy practice.

>>3874943
bump

do it as labour

where am I going wrong?

>>3875252
Jaw is too narrow, unless you're drawing an alien

>>3875252
Draw another elipse/cylinder around the cheek area and you'll see.

how do i draw eyes that dont look terrible and 2d,,,
also how do i draw anything that doesn't look terrible...
i'm trying constructing and it looks somewhat okay until a point and then i stop seeing it.

this took me like 2 hours and aaaaaa

>>3873828
i think that's enough for today, i'll try to finish it tomorrow! any advice would be appreciated
>>3874111
is elbow really that bad? i couldn't find any reference with similar position, had to pose in front of the mirror myself (lol), didn't break anything

>>3875087
>SJW'S TAKING MY HOT FICTIONAL ANIME GIRLS REEEEE

just watch some hentai or something fuck. you want hot skimpy nearly nude anime looking girls but call the character 'degenerate' like 10 times for having sex like holy that hurt to read, SJW is not just a synonym for 'thing i dont like and has nothing to do with social justice at all'. anyways sorry for dereailing the thread

why does it look so shit?

>>3875252
Its right. You just need to fill in the cheeks

>>3872808
Chicken scratching is bad if you're drawing, because the lines matter, but sometimes the lines themselves aren't that important, like if you're going to add a lot of paint on top.

What do you think fellas?

>>3875314
one of te main problems is the rendering, you're not only rendering poorly but also using shit brushes if I had to guess
try to get some linework in there, get more onfident with it
the rainbow is very hard on the eyes
the eyelashes are extremely contrasting the rest of the work

keep grinding anon, you're on the right way

>>3874913
very good anon

>>3875188
Look for: cbt (current body thread) on the /fit/ catalog.

>>3875314
First you have to decide if you want to draw in a semi realistic style or not.
Second: The volumes and tonal values are wrong. You CAN have darker shadows on your drawings, don't be afraid to use them. Your shadows are going to be defined by the light direction and the objects form. Sometimes you will need well defined shadows (with sharper borders like around the nose, ears, hair and tail), and sometimes you will need softer shadows (with softer borders or gradients, like on the legs and near the forehead).
There is also a problem with your head format, that I fixed in blue.

day one of charcoal studying....it's gonna be a minute, guys

>>3875417
blurry reference photo

>>3875417
holy crap, great work there Anon!

>>3875417
good good good! the cup is slightly tilted but you're probably aware

>>3875425
VERY much so...it really kinda bothers me.

>>3875423
thanks to both of you for the encouragement

>>3875332
interesting concept, but I feel the mane lacks definition. Maybe study up on shading curls into thick hair like that to add some depth to it.

Fellow /beg/ here, so listen or don't

Should I break vine charcoal into pieces for any reason?

>>3875458
would you break pencils for any reason?

how do you draw hands doing things

also general critique is appreciated

>>3875434
i see, thank anon, ill make the mane more interesting next time!<div class="like-perk-cnt">&#x1F955;</div>

I did a "watercolor" thing and signed it like a prick, why do people buy these from me? Also how can I do better

>>3875481
Only when I get triggered by negative feedback on /beg/

>>3875487
stop drawing

>>3875487
If you think hands suck wait until you try and get semirealistic eyes down

>>3875510
thanks

Did this on 1 layer lmfao

>>3874870
I spent more than my usual time on this and I constantly mirrored the canvas, I'm afraid it looks bad but I got used to it.

>>3875487
hands are the least of your worries

>>3875252
He reminds me of handsome squidward from that one spongebob episode.

>>3875280
It doesn't look that bad at all, however, I would've made the head slightly bigger.

2 hours is way too long for this drawing, you should be able to do this in under 30-40 minutes in my opinion.

>>3875290
Elbow looks fine, the hand could use some work though (under), the upper hand looks a bit misformed in the arm joint.

Her left boob looks a bit too flat.

The drawing is not bad, but your artstyle reminds me of furry art on deviant art.

>>3875539
I'm new to /ic/ nevertheless, this is my advice.

>>3875580
Well I was trying to draw a reverse trap/a flat girl lmfao. So I guess it worked in making you confused.

>>3875590
Yes, that worked. :^)
I hope you appreciate my critique.

Do you use clip studio paint?

>>3875290
Here's my critique for you.

>>3875490
How much can you charge for such watercolors?

>>3875599
Yeah I use clip studio

obviously not finished but i want to know what you think of the metal shading, is it in the right path ? what tutorial should i follow ?

>>3875417
fix the lines to straight, as someone said. also you see here, i compare the colors side by side, yours are very dark. milk in the glass is the whites part of the things, but yours looks like gray, that is not good. also the inside of the mug is a lot lighter, because it is a white coloured mug, even if it is on the shade.

>>3875648
keep working on it

>>3875656
how exactly ? im shit at coloring let along different surfaces

>>3875544
I can see why they are so upset with a bend in their neck like that.

>>3875662
http://gurneyjourney.blogspot.com/2013/03/highlights-and-specularity-part-1.html

check this and some other sources as well. also keep doing the picture as a whole, don't get frustrated and stay and keep painting just one place. get rid of the white areas, that should make stuff easier when you can see what reflections and shit you need to do.

It hurts. This looks bad even to myself despite my absurd amount of guidelines, ignoring the background. The past one I did was better. But I'm still fighting.

>>3875765
yuck

>>3875774
You were supposed to tell me it's cute

So doing drawbox and I'm not sure if I should try and progress or grind some of the current exercises a bit.

I'm up to 'Lesson 1: Lines, Ellipses and Boxes:
Rotated Boxes'

While I'm grasping the concepts so far I'm still finding it hard to draw perfectly straight lines free handed. Especially when they need to form a box that doesn't look wonky.

Should I grind until I can draw a box that looks like a stable object or push on with the lessons and just grind a previous lesson as warmups for 30 minutes a day.

i may be shit at art but im a skelechad, and thats all that matters<div class="like-perk-cnt"><img alt="" src="//s.4cdn.org/image/skeletons/1.gif"></div>

>>3875765
Dude you are fighting a good fight and that is great. however it feels to me that your fighting is confused. Please, look into the usage of composition and using gesture. That will help you to alleviate the stiffness you feel in your poses and the usage of background elements.

Here I tried a redraw and then some pointers one what I placed the things I did to help the composition then the gesture which isn't good I admit but I tried to make it more dynamic.

If you have question then ask them.

>>3872665
t

>>3875290
reposed because wrong file

What he said >>3875599

Use more darks and lights to give your image more form. I tried to make the face better but in the end I ha to redo it from scratch so it lost your touch I am sorry. I made her look more downwards and have the face look up a bit and give her a more feisty expression.

>>3875914
Man you keep helping me out so much, I gotta get it right. I'll grind a few dozen gestures, it's great to see how you applied it. And apparently composition is about creating a flow, now I understand those arrows you've done before, I'll be sure to include arrows when thumbnailing. I didn't want to copy your floating ghosts idea but it seems like the best idea to fill the page since I can't do full zombies with the lolita already filling most of the scene. I'll try not to, though. Composition and gesture, got it.

Just wanted you to know I'm trying to fully absorb this and I can't think of any questions, I need more raw practice instead of trying to make pretty pictures.<div class="like-perk-cnt">&#x274C;</div>

God I wish I knew how to draw like this. This is just peak anime.
Maybe I should study Soejima's artwork to figure out how he does it.

>>3874943
Based, and dare I say, *twiddles fingers* redpilled

>>3875812
DrawABoxMan specifically says don't grind and i don't know why people can't read that. He also says to come back everyday to do some line control exercises really quick before you go about your drawing day. This is all information neatly packaged within his lessons if you took the time to read.

>>3875987
You are welcome! I actually like your art because I can see the potential.
To help you with composition I humbly suggest the "understanding composition" video, this was the first thing that seriously got me thinking about it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8i7OKbWmRM

This should get you introduced on the basic ideas for me it was really awkward at first but in time it will click.

Hope it helps.

>>3876012
Yes, go and study it! Studying is the best thing you can do!

>>3875914
God tier crit

>>3875914
based

Every time I come back, bump limit is reached, new thread plz.

I'm retarded, so I have a retarded question. What exactly is an art study, and how do you do one?

>>3876226
An "art study" is taking a topic and making a drawing of it with the sole purpose of analyzing and learning about it, the key is not working from imagination but sticking strictly to the the subjects. Most of the time this means making a copy of the subject by hand, this can be a study of literally anything. Something from real life, human, animal, object or the study of another artist's work/style. One could add noted to their study to note down findings
You can read the wiki as well if you want
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Study_(art)

>>3876232
That's a lot more simple than I thought. Thanks babe.

>>3876226
it means when someone gives you a critique you can call it a study and not take note.

>>3876013
>redpilled
that's a nice compliment in any case, but how does that apply in this case?

>>3874943
i never understood these 5 minutes or less croquis, you end up with piles of unfinished looking garbage that supposedly is so flowy and free. not a personal attack against you, i just find it really strange it is being encouraged in a wide scale in the art world.

NEW THREAD UP

>>3876246

>>3876257
(I sketched that)
I don't know man, I get your opinion, but I can feel how freely ma hand moves thanks to excercises like these. I'm getting much more confident in my linework (even though it might look chickeny) and I'm really focusing on the buzzwordy "flow". It makes me a much better artist overall in my opinion

>>3876012
Looks a lot like the lines you would get with Paint tool SAI, maybe it is drawn digitally.

Notice the use of gradients in the hair, there is a gradient applied in post too, but the ones in the hair seem to be applied in the coloring stage.

The eye spacing seems to use 1.5*eyewidth in (most of the) background characters.

I myself don't adore this look in anime, but it would fit a thriller anime very well.

Is this psycho pass? Just a guess, I don't watch that much more mainstream anime.

Just my observations.

>>3875601
They are usually really tiny so I charge about $20. I make them about 5x3. I've received up to $80 for one tho

>>3876295
How long did it take from making your dA or other social media/art page to getting your first commision?

>>3876294
>Is this psycho pass? Just a guess, I don't watch that much more mainstream anime.
It's Persona, actually. Shigenori Soejima is one of the main artists at Atlus.

>>3876299
I did it the hard way and hung my paintings and drawings with price tags at restaurants with business cards underneath

>>3874188
this is the actual definition of chicken scratching right here