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>>3866297
>can't even understand Loomis books that are already bite-sized specially designed for /begs/
>thinks he can handle other books

Anon, I...

google tuts

>>3866297
Bridgman is great if you're not turned off by the scribbly drawings. I also failed Loomis but for some reason Bridgman clicked. Loomis actually learned from Bridgman, and so did Frazetta.

>>3866297
>tried and failed at Loomis
Try again.
If you can't even do Loomis what hope do you have.

In what way did you "Fail" though?

By explaining what you feel you can't do and where you started, we can just diagnose your problem.

You might have skipped to a more appealing book (Like going to Figure Drawing instead of checking out the short, goofy Fun With first) or don't understand the perspective screeds.

Obviously Michael Hampton is a good alternative, but he's very perspective heavy too.

Bridgman is form and perspective with the disadvantage of you having to bring your own experience into the mix. He doesn't touch on it. Since his books are compiled notes and sketches, not actual self authored books.

So.

I mean, Proko has a figure drawing series that could help as a crash course to you understanding.

All depends on what you don't get.

>>3866306
Bridgman is great if you understand the anatomy. His drawing style is so focussed on expression that it's hard for the untrained eye to make sense of the shapes he uses. Lacking that understanding will most likely misdirect you more than it does good.
It's not beginner material.

Loomis is a meme for r*dditors to feel “deep” for using old shit
just google construction and perspective, it’s the same damn thing but you’ll find more modern resources to help you understand better

>>3866297
you didn't fail. you're just discouraged because it didn't go like you wanted right away. you just have to try harder.

>>3866297
Find the end goal you want to become and try to draw. Then compare your drawing to theirs then see what you need to do to get there.

>>3866297

Steve Huston courses at NMA. There's a 3 hour video of the first class on youtube

You'll need to understand loomis and perspective a bit but it may help

>>3866297
Try again until you get it you inept fucking scum.

>>3866297
NMA Steve huston head and fig
even his book is far better source material than Loomis books
but the NMA courses have more detail and many demonstration

>>3866297
The fuck you mean you failed?
What are you having issues with anon?

>>3866584
He probably drew a few of those blook heads, they turned out like shit, and he gave up. That's the usual story.

>>3866586
As someone who was literally told as a child by a fucking specialist I have "difficulty" with imagining images and spaces and has fucked up vision to the point I can walk into doors because I think they're not in my line of sight...

Loomis specifically states: draw your own shit and copy me only if it helps you create your own

>>3866586
>implying it's even possible to draw those blook heads and they turn out great and not give up

>>3866600
You're making me cry, anon
WHERE THE FUCK ARE THESE BLOOKS?!

>>3866586

We all were there we started. In some variation.

... Okay. Well. I was there when I started and I'm still there because I'm a fuck awful artist.

But, yeah, I could see it.

>>3866297
I'm sorry, but it's not getting easier. Force yourself through it.

>>3866586
fuck me, this
I give up anons, I give up

>>3866297
How to draw, draw a box, perspective the easy way, dynamic bible, alphonso dunn books, hampton, bridgman, proko.

Im not sure why everyone has a hard-on for learning from loomis. I read the books and honestly they're kinda just mediocre to be honest.

I made it halfway through fun with a pencil before tossing it and just reading how to draw by scott robertson and hampton. I even picked stuff up from other sources like looking at bridgman and krenz studies to see how they applied stuff. Also stuff that's stuff that's not even related to drawing helped out like youtube videos about painting and shit (see marco bucci).

I don't want to jump on lOoMiS IES jUsT a mAymAy bandwagon but i also don't want to give people the impression that's the only legitimate way of learning stuff.

Just grind a bit, and try flexing your creative muscles once in a while and you'll do alright.

>>3866935
*and figure and invention by hampton

>>3866606
>draw the rest of the fucking owl

Who the fuck wants to draw boomer-ass blooks anyway? They look disgusting. In the boomer head of a Loomis, he thought they look funny. I say fuck Loomis. WE NEED a book which deconstructs drawings of a goth gfs with big boobies. This way, we will learn much faster.

>>3867391
If you wanted to draw big tiddy waifus why didn't say so faggot?

Drawing beautiful women by Frank cho

>>3867409
Based book anon, ty

>>3867409
Holy shit, how the fuck have I never heard about it.

>>3867391
You can draw anything with Loomis.

>>3867411
>>3867426
It's actually not all that great, but there's a couple of good tips. PDF here: https://tuxdoc.com/download/drawingbeautifulwomenfrankchomethodpdf-4_pdf

>>3866297
>I tried and failed at learning Math
>do you have any alternatives

>>3868634
>https://tuxdoc.com/download/drawingbeautifulwomenfrankchomethodpdf-4_pdf
doesn't work for me. keeps saying Apache is functioning normally

>>3868634
>>3868789
same

>>3868789

found it.
>https://tuxdoc.com/download/drawingbeautifulwomenfrankchomethodpdf-4_pdf


You're welcome

>>3866301
poeple learn differently. some people need things laid out nice and slow.
i knowbecause im a retard

>>3866586
spot on, thats my story

>>3868834
still the same thing

figure and head drawing -> Vilppu, Karl Gnass, Steve Huston, Bridgman
perspective -> D'Amelio, Watson, Scott Robertson

>>3867409
I have that book and the starting point for it is people with medium level skill. He said he was going to skip over fundies and jump straight into big boobs and fat assed. It's also a good description of his working process. But it won't teach you to draw if you don't know anything at all, you must have some ability to be able to take full advantage of the book.

>>3866297
Did you remember to learn perspective first, so that you could actually place figures in scene without guessing?