/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>3859781

I fucking hate that him and Jazza fill up the youtube feed with their bullshit and push every other artist out. Fuck them both

>>3859781
then don't learn it. Maybe you could learn to fuck off and die instead.

>>3859781
>I can't learn all this shit!
Confirmed brainlet.
NGMI

>>3859781
Do you mean anatomy? If so, I don't think so, not so far. Just try incorporating them in your drawings, shit will take leaps beyond what you think.

>>3859781

Because you dont understand form.

Go back to the basics.

>>3859889
But I'm a total beginner and I thought this was the basics
I read https://www.mimochai.com/blogs/tips-tuts/tips-101-where-to-get-started-with-drawing

>>3859781

If you want to learn to draw from imagination avoid Proko.

>>3859967

It's apart of the basics, however if you're a total beginner, It's going to take a good amount of practice and studying to wrap your mind around using your brain to create, and then draw 3 dimensional shapes on a flat paper or digital canvas. You need to learn Line, Shape, Form, Perspective, Light, Color and Composition. in that order. If you don't you'll spend years floundering, only to learn them by accident.

Start off learning line, shape, and basic form and perspective by reading the /ic/ sticky and Loomis (Fun with a pencil). It's not a meme. It's important and will improve your skill at lineart.
>But muh ugly 1940's cartoons
The artstyle is not important. They're exercises to help you get comfortable with drawing and help you identify basic shapes.

If you get bored of it, put it down for a while and watch these. Then watch the other videos in the channel.
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL1108B179C158EA69

Watch and practice along side the videos while they play. Visit https://drawabox.com and practice there as well. Whenever you get bored or tired of one source, Go and practice from the other.

After that go back to the sticky and read from the other resources.

>>3860038
thanks friend

>>3859781
Proko can draw, but will never be an artist.

>>3859781
>Is Proko a meme?

No. Google the definition of a meme.

>>3859781
You're probably autistic, son. I'm sorry.

>>3859869
I fucking love that image.

>>3860005
Not op, but who would you recommend if one wants to learn to draw from imagination?

>>3862032
Not who you were asking, but I'll tell you anyway

Vilppu. He'll teach you how to draw realism and cartoons. His explanations blow and he eats words, so you'll have to watch his lessons several times and take notes before you understand them.
But you'll have to return to his lessons once in a while after you've gained new perspective on drawing. Only this way you can actually learn things properly.

Do this: get his Drawing Manual video series and watch it once. Take notes, draw, what have you. Then forget about it for some months and meanwhile get your education somewhere else - books, video lessons, youtube, whatever. Try to filter everything you learn through what you learned from Vilppu. Then after several months of studying random material, watch Vilppu again, and I promise you you'll gain tons of new insight.

I also strongly recommend all figure drawing books that deal with 3d construction with boxes and cylinders. Also, most Japanese anime drawing books that you can find here on /ic/.
Just continue taking notes and compare information, and you'll be fine.

>>3862032
Ron Tiner

>>3859781
You might be a brainlet then, Proko is prob the best resource around to learn anatomy from, especially if youre interested in construction drawing from imagination instead of relying on reference, since thats a heavy focus of his anatomy courses - simplying shit into cylinders and boxes until you can draw it from your head from any angle.

>>3862081
People were able to get good before proko existed.

>>3862084
Obviously, whats your point? Proko is just nicely packed Watts+Loomis+Vilppu, with all the information recycled and formed into a more accessible 2019 format with good references and 3d models.

>>3862085
>watts
That's a problem. Students of watts spend way too long for years going back to the same classes again and again chasing this "mastery" dream.

I feel like it's more information than necessary to get you going? It's a great resource...to spend the rest of your life mastering over time. But a beginner trap to think you need to master every concept in proko or "you're just a brainlet if you can't figure it out."

>>3862043
>>3862078
Thanks anons.
I'll definitely keep that studying method in mind when I properly tackle Vilppu. I've only seen his gesture drawing vids on youtube so far. Tiner sounds pretty straightforward from what I've searched online, never heard of him until now.

>>3862081
Funny you say that since, even ignoring the kangaroo meme, he can't draw from imagination at all.

>>3862106
>he can't draw from imagination at all.
Uh what, where did this meme come from?

>>3862216
>he doesn't know
Come on anon, it's only been the greatest /ic/ meme for the last 2 years
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4h4-2HRHaHI

>>3862216
>>3862220
Full stream https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOuIgevbHs8

>>3862220
>>3862223
Lmao aight thats pretty funny

Still though, Prokos anatomy courses are very solid, dunno about the figure or portrait ones since havent gone through those.

>>3859781
>Proko
He's a camera, not an artist

>>3862275
At least he isn't neither, like you.

>>3860038
Post your work (:

>>3862428
Hey Proko!

>>3859781
What the fuck are you talking about? This is a tiny data set. Literally SEVEN things. Your average active vocabulary alone is over TWENTY THOUSAND words you can spontaneously recall and arrange at any given moment. What kind of brain-crippled spacker do you have to be to fail to assimilate seven new concepts?

>>3862220
Yeah fuck this anatomy autismo if you can't even draw a dog from imagination

>>3862275

This is true. He cannot draw a stick figure without reference

>>3862438
It's a kangaroo
>>3862220
He can imagine and draw humans though. It's like asking a character artist to design and paint amazing environments.

i'm desperate
What are the best plataform to host/show NSFW art? Twister looks good for exposure but not a good archive.

>>3862615
Fuck, wrong thread

>that cringe GoT intro
>that black model he uses for every male pose
>that tryhard youtube personality
Absolute meme

>>3862220

>>3862220
>don't make the same mistake
>don't wait ten years to start drawing from imagination
i kinda sad for him

>>3859869
Wtf is this?? I'm out of the loop with proko, holy damn

>>3859781
Unironically, the best advice in his videos comes from his guest artists.

>>3862220
I'm bad, like baaad but even I could do slightly better than that. How the fuck? HOW? He knows how to draw, he understand forms and anatomy, this makes no sense.

>>3859820
What do you suggest instead of Proko?

>>3862043


Great advice. I appreciate it just passing through

Gotta say what makes me kinda laugh about Vilppu is that I have a tick against hearing the same and similar phrases over and over.

So I watched his lessons through restraint every time he told me to "... draw... through..."

He always pauses before "draw" and adds another pause before "through". Oh, it drives me ape shit.

Amazing teacher though.

>>3863994
the best advices I got from Bob Ross was in the episode where he invites that heavy breathing, chair sitting amerifat

>>3866208
Yeah, man, I wish he was like 40 years younger, lol.

>>3859869
my sides

>>3862435
>believing anyone on /ic/ can recall let alone know 20,000 words
I have some bad news for you, friend

>>3865772
because he doesn't know what a kangaroo looks like
can't imagine shit you have never studied that's why it's said to build a visual library

>>3859781
>I can't learn all this shit!
>So it must be false!

Everytime someone on /ic/ tells you that "x famous art resource is a meme" remember this retard.
Every single time it just means that they are brainlets that can't deal with the fact that they need to put a minimum of effort into learning.

>>3860005
>>3862043
>>3862032
Or just learn from both, you are not going to die for looking at more than one resource, trust me guys.

Proko wishes he was a meme, memes are imaginative.

>>3867645
Oh, you absolutely should watch everyone. You should just question what they are doing instead of thinking they are always right. And Proko is the most suspicious of all.

>>3867691
>Supicious
Shit works or it doesn't. Just do shit and see if it's easier or harder than the other methods you tried. Nothing to be "suspicious" about.
Aply this lenguaje to anything else and see how retarded it sounds.
"Yeah, this recipe of Gordon Ramsay seems preety good, but I'm suspicious of adding garling and oregano to the sauce"

>>3867626
He at least draw one fucking animal, so he should know they have a cranium, snouts, etc. His thing is just a lump of paint like he doesn't even understand form. It can be messy but that much? Surprises me.

>>3861711
Says the guy on an autism-powered image board.