/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

I love drawing but im so lazy, undisciplined and complacent that I never get anything done

>>3834434
I'm learning animation in a computer graphics/art school and recently a big source of motivation to draw for me has been hatred for a classmate. Her personality is pretty shitty in general, but the thing that really irks me is that her art is way better than mine (almost pro level really) and she constantly keeps downplaying how good it is every time someone points out how. Humblebragging drives me up the wall and I can hear it happen nearly every day. She's also not fucking doing anything with her skills, in a constant state of self-pity, and I find this lack of ambition infuriating.
I can see she's been stagnating for years now and part of me really wants to surpass her to rub it in her face before we have to part ways when the cursus ends.

I've been almost a year in /beg/ with people telling me to study fundies and perspective to improve and I'm still clueless as to how. I have the drawing aptitude zi think. But yesterday I fell asleep reading Perspective made easy and I dropped Hampton after feeling in was just a ton of figure drawing like I've always been doing already. I read the sticky but I don't remember anything from it.


Basically nothing is "clicking" in my brain. I only improve specific things anons have redlined since I remember that, but I'm at a loss with the fundies. I already have a slight idea on light for example. I know high, mid and low tones, I also know about the eye level and vanishing points but I don't apply them that well despite knowing oh my God I have failed you my. Masters. You keep thinking I'll improve but I can't

>>3834434
i have the same name with someone famous here in ic that draws porn, and i get pms from ppl that knows me (from ic discords) asking if i draw porn, or if im that same person. i honestly dont know why this keeps on happening we dont even have the same art style and they're clearly better at drawing anatomy than me lol

>>3834450
Holy shit that's literally me. I started taking drawing seriously after seeing a female classmate be revered as a Goddess and receiving commissions when it's apparent she's stagnating and hadn't actually studied much besides pretty colors. We'll make it bri, though I have it easier. She hadn't studied anatomy so she gets by doing pretty stylized illustrations, so if I learn my fundies I can BTFO her. If you say she's almost pro level there isn't much of a weakness to exploit

>>3834450
>she constantly keeps downplaying how good it is
>constant state of self-pity
>stagnating for years now
She literally is the one who needs help and not to be burned by you. Don't be a crab. Be a friend.

>>3834450
>tfw know someone who constantly whines and selfdeprecates calling everything they do complete shit, complaining that literally everything is impossible but their skill is great and is actually improving
I don't know who's more irritating between the person in your example and mine

>>3834434
I haven't made an active attempt to improve in over a year, I'm too comfy with just making shitty pen drawings in my sketchbook in between classes.

>>3834483
Same here I just like drawing though I couldn't find a sketchbook

>>3834447
If you really loved it, you would do it.

>>3834463
>If you say she's almost pro level there isn't much of a weakness to exploit
Her art looks really good in general but she always draws the same stuff in the same chuuni fujo-ish style and her digital coloring is wonky. As you said, it'll be hard getting there, but it's doable for me in a couple more years since I got fuckall to do on the side.
It's weird, I never really had this need to prove myself and surpass others until I entered a school full of other artfags of varying levels.
>>3834473
Despite all I said I do encourage her to put her stuff out there because I can't just stay idle and see all this potential go to waste. To go on Twitter and Instagram or create a Tumblr blog to get followers and comms, to get out there! She half-assedly opened a Facebook page and forgot about it after a week.
From what I can tell she's just lazy as fuck too lazy to go out of her comfort zone and stop stagnating or get a confidence boost associated with an online following, and it's useless to tell that kind of people that their art isn't shit, it doesn't do anything. As much as I resent her and want to surpass her because I hate seeing shitty self-deprecating faggots being better than me in art, I don't want to see her fail, so I still try to nudge her in what I can assume would be the right direction.
>>3834482
Yea. I can see where this mentality comes from but it's stupid not to accept credit where it is due and cut ourselves some slack from time to time.

Anyways hope that isn't too much blogging. Cheers anons.

>>3834461
Are all kyles degenerates?

>>3834434
I don't like porn

>>3834434

i might be breaking up with my best friend and main/only art friend (who is also a /ic/er) because i am becoming a christian and he is super not happy with it and we've been fighting for 2 weeks on and off

its like a part of me was ripped out. i am numb but hurting at the same time

>>3835077
What even is there to fight about holy shit
If it were a political affiliation I'd understand but you guys mustn't really have been good friends if one of you got pissed about whether you believe in god or not. Have you been screaming about it for days? Have you made a big deal out of it?

>>3834434
If I hadn't of created a "race" structure to motivate myself I'd have definitely stopped painting like 15 months ago. Shit's gay as fuck.

I've been drawing every day for 10 years but haven't followed any guides or fundamentals. My art sucks.

>>3834434
lol, was that shinji always there or its a newer add

...i think i created an abomination...

>>3834434
I miss jimmy

>>3835103
Can you show what 10years of no guides looks like?

>>3835083
give up youre not meant for this activity

I always feel threatened by artists who are getting good. I know it's irrational and the definition of a crab, and I shouldn't feel that way but I can't control it.
Also I need to do a lot of studies (drapery, arms, legs) but I'm too lazy to get myself to do it.

>>3835151

>>3835080

desu i have no idea what his problem is, i keep asking him what he's actually scared of. is this really the hill we want to die on? for the 3 years we knew eachother he never had a problem with my values and who i am but all of sudden now that i am converting i have a personality problem and "daddy issues".

he keeps bringing it up in casual conversation and told me explicitly he will get in the way to stop me, he's acting as if i'll become a jihadi who will blow myself up for 72 virgins

>>3834434
I'm jumping more to Michael Hamptons figure drawing because I feel like I'm learning more from that than Loomis' FWAP. FWAP is good but I feel more comfortable with that.

I stopped doing keys to drawing because I was feeling antsy and unfocused and when I did do the bottle exercise there was so much fancy writing there that I couldn't get it perfectly accurate how I wanted.

I keep holding myself from drawing what I want since many people here have strict guidelines over when you should try things and what you should study from. I feel like my imagination is limited now since I'm not drawing for me anymore, I was just tired of those harsh criticisms in /beg/ that tire at my soul

My little brother draws what he wants and for a 15 year old he's not shabby, seems to be having fun, and I envy that.

I keep trying to rush muself, listen strictly to others to please them, don't stay consistently on track, don't draw from life as much as I used to and I gotta criticize myself more and not make excuses

I'm a mess

>>3834454
Do remember that the people on /ic/ are incredibly harsh and will pick apart your art no matter what you do. Therefore, it is hard to get a sense of whether you are improving from this board, since you never really get any positive feedback. Anyway, post some work in this thread (or maybe in /beg/ and link to it) and I will see if I can give you some measured critiques. Ideally post older work and a newer piece of work so I can see where you are and are not improving

>>3835183
Kody my boi

>>3835077
Sounds like that guy is a piece of shit for being nosy about your faith

>>3835197
>I keep holding myself from drawing what I want since many people here have strict guidelines over when you should try things and what you should study from. I feel like my imagination is limited now since I'm not drawing for me anymore, I was just tired of those harsh criticisms in /beg/ that tire at my soul
I suffered the same issue for a long time, the way out for me was to do fan art of the things I liked. Then I started doing stuff on my own based on my niche interests- thing I really never did before. It feels liberating. You really should try making finished drawings anon, first of a franchise you like if you don't have any ideas.
I really encourage you to do it. Drawing isn't fun if you don't draw things that you like.

>>3836679
thanks m8, i might try some persona 5 and jojo stuff, always wanted to try that

I broke my tablet in half after trying a single figure drawing.

>>3835114
oh my God

>>3835177
3 late now the conditioning is fully encoded

>>3834838
>Despite all I said I do encourage her to put her stuff out there because I can't just stay idle and see all this potential go to waste. To go on Twitter and Instagram or create a Tumblr blog to get followers and comms, to get out there! She half-assedly opened a Facebook page and forgot about it after a week.

this is your opportunity to be her art-pimp and ride the tail of a whale

>>3837313
kill yourself jimmy
kill yourself jimmy
kill yourself jimmy
kill yourself jimmy

let the demons in
kill yourself jimmy

I actively dislike approx 50% of the people I've met in the animation industry since I entered it. They're either emotionally stunted, immature, greedy, poorly socialized, drama queens, unimaginative, untrustworthy, or a mix of the above.

On top of that they are blown around like leaves in the wind by social currents, and think following whatever is the current trend in society makes them a good person.

>>3838634
leftists, you're saying

I think I'm one of the best in my art class. Two problems tho, one, I'm scared its not going to get me anywhere, since I'm a lazy fuck....and two, I think my classmates know I think I'm better than them.
I also worry I'm not actually as good as I think I am...

>>3834434
I have the japanese sekrits I've cultivated them but /ic/ should never see them it's too complicated it'll only harm you it's for your own good I don't share them they'll drive you mad you'll jump in front of trains and buses you'll hang yourselves in forests you'll swallow bottles full of pills please just stay away from anime

>>3838637
Most of them, but not all. The right-wing ones are equally terrible, in their own way.

>>3838646
same here minus the best in the class part

I drew a couple stories for an indian porn comic site for 400 bucks without any grasp of basic fundamentals. I was lucky the characters were even discernable.

Saris are hard to draw properly.

>>3838631
what did they mean by this?

>>3838713
Jimmy's a big guy

>>3838713
kill yourself jimmy
nobody likes you
kill yourself
your mom thinks youre a loser
kill yourself
youre a druggie burnout loser
kill yourself
youre nothing

I for one appreciate Jimmy

>>3838834
shut the fuck up jimmy, kill yourself

>>3835190
>i keep asking him what he's actually scared of

that sounded like you were taunting him or something, like "oooooohhhh are you afraid of God, anon???"

I don't know you and your conversations with your friends, but maybe you're talking too much about this with non-christian people, it becomes annoying after a while. I recently became a christian too and I usually avoid the topic with people that I know won't like the discussion.

>>3835197
>I keep holding myself from drawing what I want since many people here have strict guidelines over when you should try things and what you should study from

It seems that you're giving waay more attention to what other people think you should be doing instead of doing what you want, specially people from here.

I'm not saying you should say 'fuck it' and drop everything, just use the guideline as a guide instead of a instruction manual.

>>3838634
iktf man, that why I look to the japanese because at least they are cool people.

Ive always wanted an anime artist friend at equal level, but i havent met a single one, theyre either too high skill or too low. I give up

>>3838857
>he doesn't befriend an anime artist friend and watch them grow or try to reach them

>>3838859
I already have plenty of those

Mostly teenage girls love my art, and I don't fully feel comfortable about that.

>>3838865
>tfw no one will ever say they love your art

>>3838865
My art mostly only gets a strong response from women too. DESU, I'm courting middle aged women and eccentric gays with my work though, since that's who spends money on art.

>>3838872
Women are probably the only ones who put up cute anime girls up on their walls anyways. What kind of man would do that?

>>3838872
Courting middle aged women is kinda hard though, cause they want to do some pedestrian art themselves, and they have money to go to courses themselves.

>>3838825
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>>3838828
new phone who dis
>>3838834
ere breh

>>3838847
>maybe you're talking too much about this with non-christian people

as I said, he's the one who keeps bringing christianity up in casual conversation and telling me he'll stop me from converting.

I have so many drawings I will never ever finish, only to look back on them and say that I will

picrelated circa 2017

Also I think I've gotten so burnt out, I think I'm starting to lose my love of drawing at an alarming rate (haven't really done anything in a year and a half)

>>3838828
this would have been better if you didn't repeat loser twice. fucks up the poetry of it and just makes you look like an unironic loser lol.

What would you say you do here anon?

>>3839273

In that case what I would do was just agree with him in everything about this until the subject changes or he stops talking about it

>>3838876
I'm not an anime shitter. I'm actually making it.
>>3838882
This is true. You just have to alpha mog them at galleries by being better than them, and telling anyone who says that the art is too expensive to fuck off.

>>3839278

That's a really good drawing, anon, please don't waste your potential

Look for the things that made you draw in the first place, like movies, animations, artists, illustrations etc, maybe you'll get some inspiration back

>>3834447
If you "love drawing" but don't want to draw, you don't love drawing anon. You may love the results/making results but not the process. After drawing for four years this recently became true for me. I'm still trying to find a new skill to move on to now.