/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>3833689
It becomes more and more true with every upload, it's sad

>>3833692

bonus atelier salt

>>3833693
To be fair, if Cesar Santos is any indication, he's right.

>>3833689

>>3833693
this is the second time I saw this angel art school got shilled today

>>3833693
kek

still waiting for this

>>3833693
Based

>>3833702

Elaborate

>>3833749
not him but
Cesar Santos comes from angel art school and he speaks highly of it

>>3833693
Based Angel. His Atelier is amazing.

>>3833693
pros and masters are crabs to each other too

>>3833693
I guess being a crab was the right path to making it all along

Hnnng, those puffy nipples.

>>3833778
fucking this, i thought i was the only one who noticed

>>3833749
The man is a beast(and studied and angel art school)

>>3833693
Based Angel BTFO Proko shill while shilling his OWN academy
it's so vivid and unreal

>>3833751
>Cesar Santos

Is he good only after Angel Academy, or was decent before it? Google says he's been to other Art school prior to Angel's

>>3833778
delicious

>>3833787
I think he only spent a year there and studied constantly at local museums and such. If you were there for the three years or more you'd be able to master the fundamentals

>>3833693
based boomer

>>3833693
>>3833705
>>3833751
>>3833754

Angel is still inferior to the atelier of Charles Cecil in Florence

>>3833703
I thought i was the only one distracted by this. I get she is falt but damn those nipples man.
nude model posing? only see the forms and shadows bruh
pokies from senpai? boner

tracing hacks. try to draw some cute waifus from imagination

>>3833689
this made me laugh so much
based angel senpai

Hi im noah bradley.


Dont go to art school. Go to art camp.
My art camp.

>Goes to watts atelier since he was 16
>makes a vid on some literally who atelier in new york
What did he mean by this

>>3833920
As an educator he is supposed to educate you on other opportunities. This is one of them. He’s already shilled watts enough. It’s probably full all the time.

>>3833805
He spent only a year but completed the 3 year course in that one year.
How?
Once enrolled and studying there, the school offered students the job of janitor basically and he took it. He came in after school was closed, cleaned the place in no time and spent the rest of the night there, with his girlfriend at the time(now wife) working on his Bargue plates and cast drawings and paintings. After he graduated he told some students and others tried the same thing but got caught.

>>3833925
That makes no sense. You can’t rush progress.

>>3833689
>Oh, Proko.
Literally who?

>>3833693
He's right though.

>>3833931
There's no way that's real. That's not human anatomy.

>>3833833
wtf I love this guy now

>>3833931
looks like some african

>>3833928
Just repeating what he said on a podcast. Also, do you really think progress is measured in days versus actual time at an easel?
12 solid hours at an easel a day doing atelier studies and getting professional instruction and critique vs. “OMERGEEERD I’m depressed, draw this anime girl in your style challenge in between video games draw from life no way I want to be a Japanese cartoon”.

>>3833936
That’s human in the sense, it’s the same base we all know and love.

>>3833936
Anon, I hate to tell you. They really do exist and are considered human.

>>3833945
There’s a reason it’s three years and that’s because you need to spend a lot of time. You can’t compress that no matter how much more time you spend per day. There’s a limit to growth. The body can only grow and split so quickly. The only other way would be if you’re already art focused then in which case, you wouldn’t be working as a janitor.

>>3833936

He's microcephalic. I'm sure you've seen these pretty girls before who have the same condition. So yeah, basically a fancy name for being a literal brainlet.

>>3833952
sometimes I wish sparta conquered the world and held up to these days

>>3833958
>useless Spartans rather than the Romans, Athens or Greeks

>>3833823
>bargue studies
>tracing
hmm

>>3833964
Bargue studies is tracing. If you don’t think observation drawing isn’t just tracing with the eyes, then you haven’t done it. It’s why those who do it often lack an imaginative drawing ability without having had it before.

>>3833967
copying isn't tracing

>>3833958
almost everyone across the world back then would discard these things
didn't make much of a different now eh?

This guy probably just got cancer.

>>3833958
Just a heads up
The throwing of improper newborns off a cliff practice was hugely exaggerated. Sparta had a low population and cannot give up on potential populace even if it has a few quirks. They just punished them into shape.

Other societies also didn't forgive such problems anymore than Sparta because welfare states weren't a thing.

Aside from that Spartans didn't have much to offer in sophistication and actually liked dancing, fucking and public orgies more than anything. They weren't known for their military prowess, Argos was. Spartan was known for feisty women. Thermopylae was a fluke.

>>3833951
I like how you know so much, yet Cesar Santos is proof your theory is wrong.

>>3833689
OH MY GOD I NEED A GF I NEED A GF I NEED A GF NOW NOW NOW NOW NOWWWW AAAAHHHHHH GODDAMMIT I AM SO LONELY AND HORNY HOW COULD I LIVE 22 YEARS WITH NO SEX IF IM GOING TO DIE ALONE I WANT TO DIE NOW DONT TEASE ME WITH THIS HOPE AAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>>3834050
You don't
You just need pussy

>>3833952
I never got why birth a child with a condition that will ruin their life.

>>3834060
>because muh you’ve just got to deal with it! It’s a life!

>>3834060
I know right, why'd your mother choose to keep you with all the mental damage she obviously caused

>>3834041
Cesar Santos makes horrible "art"

>>3833689
goddamn those are some pufferfish.

>>3833967
It's about training your eye to see detail.

>>3834059
i need both

>>3833689
me likey nipple pokey

>>3833689
This chicks nipples were hard all video. You can tell she wanted Prokos kangaroo.

>>3834195
Oh and now reading the thread you guys noticed it too....heh.

>>3834060
I don't know, but the literal downies always seem so happy when they're not screaming. Makes me a little jealous.

>>3833689
>tfw will never make a woman's tits completely erect by my mere presence

This thread is shit. Redpill me on how to get a torpedo titted gf with pokey nipples bros.

>>3834230
she's not torpedo tittied, they're actually small and proportionally fit well with her size. it's just not wearing a bra

>>3833833
wew

>>3833693
MJA is the ultimate atelier shitposter.

Why the fuck is he such a salty alcoholic???

>>3834245
Why do women do this sometimes? It’s very /fa/, but what’s the reason behind it?

>>3834258
because his students do fuck all after they graduate lmao

>>3834230
Literally theredpill

>>3834268
This. They learn how to paint and then proceed to put their skills to use in painting nude figure #9274947 for the rest of their lives. Quite sad.

>>3833781
>>3833778
isn't that the entire point of this thread ?

>>3834330
yeah I'm pretty sure OP screencap this exact moment to make it look like Proko is staring at her tits and declare it was the best art school ever

>>3834268
>>3834313
Where are all the ones who go there to prepare for concept art or anime illustrations? Do they just not exist? Are they perhaps too weak to survive is that why? Wouldn’t it be wise to be one of the firsts to do it then?

>>3834337
you don't go to angel for concept art. you'd go to watts or some other california school well before that. you go to angel to make jerk off fine art works for money laundering.

>>3834268
No, they fuck their students long before they graduate.

>>3834341
But Angel seems more appealing than Watts or some other school. Just look at all of those student paintings.

>>3834358
I'd rather draw and paint like Watts than masturbate like Angel to "classical" art.

>>3834358
I don't know about you but I think I like the construction approach of the Watt more than the size-sight charles bargue of the Angel academy so far
granted they probably reach the same goal in the end

>>3833693
Is this the actual dude?

Repin Academy shits all over this guy's school.

>>3834416
repin academy is a shadow of its former self.

>>3834416
>>3834422
Imagine arguing over top level schools.

>>3834337
>anime and concept art
That’s just as soulless as those fine art figure drawings they do

>>3834416
>Repin Academy shits all over this guy's school.

how where?

Who is this semen demon

>>3834470
watch the video. doe zufour

>>3833931
Literally the guy from the 56% meme

>>3834265
Comfort/apathy

>>3834426
They obviously attend

>>3834265
To make you horny obviously

>>3834330
>>3834336
So who's going to attend this school now that you see what's worth?

Are Proko's courses worth the money?

>>3836559
Not even a little bit. They're basically the same shit he says in his free videos, except he adds a bunch of demonstration videos that don't teach anything. CGPeers them if you're still curious, but definitely don't pay for them.

>>3836611
I bought all four of them.

>>3836624
That's a damn shame.

>>3836627
All I can do now is make the most of it, I suppose.

>>3833710
Kek

>>3836559
>>3836611
The anatomy one (aka. the only one that matters) isn't even complete yet.
It's been 4 years and he still hasn't finished the legs section.

>>3836655
i thought he finished that the end of last year

>>3836779
he still post videos about anatomy of leg muscle
it is why CGpeer didn't rip his anatomy course yet

>>3833689
Post more Zoe nipples pls

>>3833693
Lmao how pathetic s that you go around shilling for your school and telling others to suck up your farts because you are the true good one

>>3836841
He just had a bad day. Besides his is the best art renewal Atelier anyways. Haven’t seen another that matches up in quality at least not on their sites.

>>3836655
lol
the only lesson that matters was already posted
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRM7pT-Yric

>>3836975
>That fucking intro
What the fuck, proko.

...But the song is pretty neat. Does anybody know the name?

>>3833693
proko should know responding to a boomer with emojis will only create conflict

>>3836611
Can't you get his critiques if you pay for them? Says so in his FAQ page. Seems like a good reason to buy

>>3837042

Nope, no critiques. You can join their facebook group but it's open to the general public and is poorly moderated. Mostly people posting photo studies that have literally fuck all to do with Proko's course.

>>3833768
crabs not only all the way down, but also all he way up, what a world

>>3837019
>What the fuck, proko.
lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4WcczwPXmU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qiTUSDCbGPw

>>3837067
dayum son

>>3837048
Damn I almost bought one course. He really should update his website

>>3837199
lmao just go to CGpeer and download his shit
wait till his anatomy course is finish they will upload it too

>>3837204
I do have it downloaded. I wanted to buy the course for his critiques, which I thought he gave to people who buy his courses

>>3837207
That's only when they're new and don't have the critique video yet. Other than that. You can send him an email.

>>3836559
Why in the world would you learn from the kangaroo man
This is insane, how is it possible that /ic/, the most fucking critical art community on the internet, is still swayed by this fucking hack who can't even draw basic construction and has clearly copied all his construction examples in his videos
Literally a fucking hack but he's a popular YouTuber so /ic/ gargles on his cock, insane

>>3837207
There is no guaranteed critiques for a course that price you probably have to use his forum

>>3833931
Poor dude

>>3833967
>If you don’t think observation drawing isn’t just tracing with the eyes, then you haven’t done it
Why did I come back to this board? That's it. I'm done. Fuck it.

>>3837019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bywp0qTVNo
surprisingly good for a royalty-free song.

>>3837751
Same here.
It is unbelievable how /ic/ deteriorated after 2014.
This place used to have potential as a place for art discussion, now it's just a dumping ground for bitter re-dditors and tumblr anime artists to shitpost.

>>3833931

>>3833931
>>3838338
>griffith was actually right all along

>>3838306
It's funny how in the past 4 years or so every artsy place got fucked. Before there was conceptart.org, crimson daggers and even ic. Now there's just trash everywhere. Wonder what happened.

>>3838401
Everyone is trying to monetise

>>3838401
Shit might have moved into private discords/slack as well

>>3838401
>being so high and mighty all the time
>gatekeeping
>wonder what happened

>>3838401
I miss Crimson Daggers. I met a girl there who was on her way to becoming some KJG monster and she inspired me so much.

>>3838401
I don't really know about other places, but lately I've seen /ic/ being recommended a lot in other sites and social media lately.

>>3838401
people fleeing en masse to social media because thats where the audiences and the money are

>>3839595
and the echo chamber/hugbox, don't forget those
social media is the new art school

>>3833783
Is that a painting of himself with horns?

>>3833923
If anything he went a fucked up the watts atelier online program by doing his, i've never seen him shill watts atelier he only mentions it on his early videos.

>>3841021
Seriously what the fuck is this new online shit? It looks like he completely fucked over the regular atelier experience and tries to do it mainly online. It must be getting all the profits, but it looks like a way shittier experience.

Give it up Proko, you can draw, but you'll never be an artist

Seems like it's an appropriate thread, do you find not wearing bra trashy or you don't mind?

>>3841231
it's not trashy is she's petite and cute

>>3834041
Cesar has gone to art school since high school as far as i can tell, and has been drawing for 10+ years

>>3838401

what happened? too many people. good people got smart and avoided large groups, focused on becoming pros, then became pros. remainder are floundering in these massive forums where everyone is trying to monetize and more or less everyone is at the same shitty mediocre skill level.

>>3834050
I´m 44 and i never got a girlfriend, so there.

>>3833936
Racist! We are all equal!

>>3833964
What's the deal with Bargue studies anyways? Is it just to teach how to draw what you see accurately?

>>3845202
Did you know that on average, these creatures have the exact same capability as us Europeans? I sure hate nationalism now!

>>3833969
It lessened the chances of more

>>3833931
the missing link?

>>3833693
>>3833705
>almost 5K freedom bucks for a year of teaching
Is that high or low? I have no idea. Seems cheap as an american but probably expensive as all fuck from a "Every College in Europe is Free" country

>>3847078
>5K
pretty sure that is each term which is 15k
5k per year is fairly cheap for some EU countries

>>3847084
That's a good deal pricier. But is that average for 'Well Respected Ateliers'?

>>3847078
>tfw will never be that good
Just look at those gorgeous pieces right there.

>>3833710
>drawing from imagination
>draws a minion

>>3847078
>5k is what you would expect to pay for a study in Europe.

so anyone got a link to his or similar anatomy course?

>>3845167
the only correct answer

>>3837223
Because I don't feel like reading Bridgman

>>3847078
In England & Wales we have to pay for college, or at least it's borrowed from the government & then interest is charged on it. So a massive debt hangs over your head for your whole working life.
5k is actually very cheap compared to most Mickey Mouse type uni courses. If it is very high quality teaching, & enables you to gain employment for yourself at the end.

>>3833693
What video did you find this comment on?!?!!

>>3848698
Just look up his channel u gay retard

>>3848701
Ok I found it thanks. That sculpture woman is very beautiful. I wish I could impregnate her

>>3848709
Me too thanks

>>3838788

who?

>>3848766
>who?
Idk, now get out of my thread