/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

NSFW ban is coming, you know it

>>3825861
It's going to keep on happening everywhere.
The crackdown is fully underway.
RIP Golden Age.

Why don't we just make our own internet instead of letting the big corporations decide what our rights are

Can someone link some good up-to-date bulk image and video downloaders for twitter? Had to download all my favorite tumblr artists when tumblr went nuclear and I can't believe twitter's going the same way too.

>>3825867
I think thats called the dark web

make and manage a site for hosting art, because I am too lazy to do it myself, and I am in

we have 2 options. one is to have moderators to filter not art related stuff which will eventually be posted, the second is to make a browsing system so good theres no need for that.

An idea I have in mind is sorting the pics by likes. The more likes has a pic, higher is in the search engine. And no make sure pics liked using hack dont go overboard, we could have make the links of certain users counter more than 1. The more good art somebody post, the more their like counts.

Fediverse is the current solution. Shit will probably be pushed back into ehentai or whatever phpbb forum knowing people.

>>3825862
If they're just banning pedoshit I'm fine with it

>>3825861
whats going to happen when people draw characters that look young but are actually over 18?

>>3825861
And nothing of value was lost.

Can you post the source? I'm not finding anything anywhere.

>>3825890
>tfw a proportional error can land you in jail

>>3825890
It doesn't matter, they are already taking from you the right to tell if your drawing can be a bannable offense or not; it's meaningless if it actually represents a minor, they can claim it does even unreasonably just because they don't like you. It's like youtube adpocalipse: it doesn't matter if you are right, they have the power to punish you without any real justification for their personal gains.

>>3825902
It's their platform after all.
Even though the people are the ones bringing the actual value, it's still theirs.

>>3825888
Cope
They're coming for anything sexual. Back to the forums we go.

>people telling you what you can and can't draw
>people telling you what you can and can't like
>people telling you what you can and can't MASTURBATE TO

>>3825888
>first they came for the lolis and I did not care because I was not a lolicon
>etc. etc.

>>3825913
Just keep your fap folder hidden and you won't have to worry.

>>3825914
That's a stupid analogy.

>>3825917
Nigger you literally watched that take place with Tumblr a few months ago.
Cope.

>>3825861
Anything that hurts pedos is good news.

>>3825906
Yes, but like you said, it's self damaging to their userbase not only because they alienate part of the users unjustly, branding them as "child exploitators", but also because you use a completely arbitrary set of beliefs to deem drawn characters "exploited children" or not, like they are actual beings with ages and free will. This is delusional at best, dictatorial at worst.

>>3825921
>>3825908
>Cope
Is this a new meme or something? I've been seeing it on other boards recently

>>3825923
Liking a fictional thing does not mean you enjoy it's real life equivalent. Do people who enjoy murdering in fiction like the thought of killing in real life or actively attempt to engage in it? No.
I accept your concession.

>>3825933
>Do people who enjoy murdering in fiction like the thought of killing in real life
I think people who masturbate to gore are fucked in the head and should be watched.

>>3825933
Violence can be good and necessary to survive.
There is no justification of liking pedo cartoons, no matter what you say.

>draw 15-17 year old from (insert series here)
>rabid feminist Tumblr creatura comes to my page and flags it
>my shit gets taken down for (((pedophilia)))
>all these faggots get to pretend like the majority of them don't find late teens girls to be attractive
>they pretend like girls younger than that aren't marketed sexually irl but it's wrong to draw it for some reason
>actual pedophilia will be argued for in court 20 years from now but drawn shit will be illegal

>>3825933
There was proof videogames don't cause mass shootings 10 years ago and they still use it as a strawman, do you really think they will stop doing it? For them, lolicon artists are the exact same as rapists, they don't even want to think about a difference because they are uncapable of self reflection.

>>3825895
It's mostly in Japanese
https://twitter.com/search?q=pawoo&src=trend_click

>>3825941
Thank you for the made up scenario where you are the heroic victim

>>3825942
Playing video games isn't the same as jacking off to the idea of children in sexual situations.
It's a false equivalence.

>>3825939
Doesn't matter what you think is fucked. Some people in this world think coming to places like this and posting the tame shit we post is fucked and think we're messed up in the head. If you aren't hurting anyone, it doesn't matter. I say this because most gore videos are recorded I'm shitty third world countries and warzones.
I accept your concession.
>>3825940
It doesn't matter what is considered """good""" because that is entirely subjective. Also, in most cases in this modern world, violence is almost never the answer. You're saying violence should be used because retards refuse to tall things out. Anything is fine as long as no one is being hurt. I jerked off to loli rape doujins on Saturday night. Who got hurt? The sperm in my balls?
I accept your concession.

>>3825861
Does pawoo have the same retarded degeneracy clause as pixiv? Because if so I'm putting ears on everything and going to inkbunny.

>>3825950
Don't be surprised when your social status and reputation changes if someone finds out you fap to gore/rape/loli/etc. We have watch lists so we can prevent those things from happening irl.
Like the whole 'virtuous pedophile' shit.
Better safe than sorry.

>>3825861
>it's only wrong when nips do it
reminder that most of the masters were lowkey pedos. also reminder that twitter has repeatedly shielded actual pedophiles. also reminder that sexualizing a 10 year boy is good and progressive if you put lipstick and a wig on him.
but it's the drawings that are bad

>>3825946
>Made up scenario
Children are being sexualized more than ever but not in the ways you think. All this transvestite nonsense and faggot shit is fucking with their heads. The heterosexual sexualization which is more generally accepted comes from shows and Hollywood as well as social media platforms allowing preteens and girls to literally whore themselves for attention on social media. Also, you're attacking me for liking something you don't like. I am sort of a victim in this way, no? I have done far less damage to anyone with what I have created or consumed than some whore teen posting her half naked body on an Instagram account.
Cope harder, dog.
I accept your concession.

>>3825933
>>3825950
>>3825959
Remember to report for avatar use

>>3825961
>"N-NO HE CANT BE RIGHT THIS CANT BE HAPPENING! R-REPORT HIM!!"
I
Accept
Your
Concession

>>3825965
>>3825959
>obnoxious pedo uses a dbz avatar and is a retard
Hopefully they will gas you soon

>>3825950
>>3825959
>>3825965
Nigga you cringy as fuck.

>>3825933
>>3825950
>>3825959
>>3825965
Further proof that lolifags are retarded.

>>3825950
>>3825933
>>3825965
Gohan I'm sorry but the police have arrived and they're taking pan away

>>3825967
I'm not a pedophile. I'm not attracted to real life children.
I accept your concession.
>>3825971
I accept your concession.
>>3825973
Don't consider myself a lolifag because lolicon is only a small facet of my fetishes.
I accept your concession as well.

>>3825887
>ehentai
I think it has banned loli for years already

>(artists) WE WANT FREEDOM
>Sure! Artists should be given freedom to expre-
>*draws little girls getting raped with a chainsaw for cash from degenerates, produces nothing meaningful or artistic*
>hmmm maybe giving artists freedom was a bad idea, let's take a step back
>(fetishists) REEEEEEEEEEE BUT WHAT ABOUT FREEDOM
>(actual artist with ideas that will have to be censored to shit) That's unfortunate, I had a thing in the works that had some mild nudi-
>(fetishists) stfu we want lolis

>>3825982
none of those anon btw. I just dont see the appeal of jerking off to loli.
What are people's opinion on aging up character to 18 and over?

>>3825994
I think if you draw porn of characters that aren't yours you should be hanged.

>>3825994
Go right ahead, people do it all the time

>>3825997
debatable on that.People just like rule34 of characters especially over 18. Cause aren't your oc just like children?

>>3825861

>>3825998
didnt dives get into a lot of crap from doing that with peni parker?

>>3825991
>Ideas I don't like aren't artistic expression because I don't like them
>You're not allowed to profit from things I don't like

>>3825949
Is it? You're still simulating an activity while low in consciousness. The fact you're perceiving the two things as different shows your bias and ignorance about the functioning of the brain.

>>3825957
Thank you, can you link me when twitter has shielded pedophiles? I knew something like that but I don't have the actual source.

You're perfectly right on the other issues. This is all just a distraction. They never had "morals" or "children protection" in their mind, they're just concerned about the money.

>>3825994
>Calling yourself an artist
>Drawing porn
>Drawing porn of other people's intellectual property
>Drawing porn of other people's intellectual propety that happens to be underage characters so you "age them up" because you have to use that underage character at all costs or your fuckface pedo audience won't pay you
How to have less dignity than a landworm 101
I draw explicit stuff but I would gladly give that up just to get this subhuman filth off the internet.

>>3825861
>people actually think their rights are being infringed upon

$100 bucks says that the same right-wing /pol/tards who champion free speech (including corporate entities) will say that this is an infringement on their right to free speech.

Good riddance.

>>3825914
its a private company who cares. if you dont like it move somewhere else

>>3826014
but what if that character was aged up in the actual show?Then people draw rule 34 of it?

>>3825991
> artists: we want to get jobs as craftsmen with livable wages
> society: art is overrated and useless because it doesn't feed our ego
>artists: here's porn
>normies: that's nice but it kinda gets boring after a while, and I don't want to spend money on porn
>artists: here's more degenerate porn
> fetishists: can we have very messed up stuff? I will give you money if you do
> artists: sure, I can live of my craft now!

>socials: I know most of you are here for the porn, but disney isn't giving us ads if we don't eliminate it, so we'll delete all nsfw images until they give us ads.

This is how it works. Nobody wants "freedom" or "moral", artists just want results comparable to their skill level and twitter just wants ad revenue. Easy. All the rest is distraction from these issues.

>>3825890
Weebshit is dead.
Maybe that would mean less otaku pandering in Japan and more 90s anime like designs will return.

>>3826024
Make your own characters and draw porn of those.

>>3825933
Seriously why is Gohanposting always from pedos? Are the Spics the pedofags?

>>3826026
i dont understand how the 90's anime style coming back from doing that

>>3826026
>Lina inverse
In-universe she is 15-16, you disgusting pedo

>>3826028
nah i'm still gonna draw rule 34 of adult characters. Some oc on the side.

The fact the deleted posts are pro pedo, yeah, the Internet is in full Jew storm of censorship. Sad to say, and I'm not pro pedo either, just that humanity is retarded when it comes to power control, they'll go too far with that power and ban everything until humanity lashes back and nuke the planet. It's been nice knowing you all.

How bad do you guys think this can get? I'm worried because most of my fandoms contain underage characters, including things like South Park which has 9-10 year old kids, and I happen to be a huge shipper. (Yeah, I know this is cringe but), does this mean things like kisses or even very slightly titillating stuff between characters will be an offense now? Or just outright porn?

>>3826025
>artists: we want to get jobs as craftsmen with livable wages
There's way too many artists these days. We can safely remove every porn-drawing, fetish-pandering person from the face of the Earth and absolutely nothing of value will be lost.

>>3826025
>> artists: we want to get jobs as craftsmen with livable wages
Then learn to fucking draw and have some ideas. Make a comic or something.

>>3826031
At least she doesn't look underage, unlike your 10,000 year old dragon loli

>>3826034
I can't blame people doing the censoring. It's the artists with no dignity or constraint whatsoever that are responsible for this. I'm sure there would be no problem with freedom if people drew what was necessary to express an idea. Every time people are given freedom they fucking squander it.

>>3826039
except she does? she's small, childish and often called flat-chested.
If you ban loli, she's the next on the list

>>3826031
i looked at the wiki of that character. she starts at 14 but at the end of the anime/manga she is 18. Lord hope this guy likes the 18 one.

>>3826040
If you're not free to squander it, why call it freedom in the first place?

>>3826043
>she's small, childish and often called flat-chested.
>flat-chested.
That, flat-chested. Sure. Doesn't matter what the show said 20 years ago, the point of why loli is getting banned (an the whole moralfag argument is stemming from you retarded autist) is that lolis look like underdeveloped children. Draw more matured looking characters, and people would have less strokes over drawings

>>3826036
>>3826037
You're just closed in your illusionary world where porn and fetish porn can't have good results and give you success and money. You're believing in a lie: porn is in reality no different category than "art" in general. You just positioned it in your "taboo zone" to feel better about yourself and boost your ego because you do not draw porn (or fetish porn, or whatever).

People who draw porn work their ass off as anyone else in the world and just found a niche where they can thrive and not be slaved in a retail job all day. Their effort is real, while your preconceptions all come from your ego and emotions and are therefore false.

>>3826050
>Draw more matured looking characters, and people would have less strokes over drawings
I disagree because people will remember the age of the character and depending on the situation people will argue about it.

>>3826050
I've seen people getting banned of deviantart, for drawing aged-up sailor moon naked pinups, under the pretense that it was technicaly sexualised underaged characters.

>>3826054
Look outside American, and there are adult women that look no older than teenagers at times. That's sadly the case when your country produces growth hormonic foods.

>>3826057
DeviantArt is quite dumb in general to be uses as a argument bud

for them it doesn't matter if character is underage or just looks underage. as long as they can call you a pedo they will do it.

>>3826049
Because human beings are little babies and can't make use of the freedom they're given. Everyone knows that anarchy is retarded and would never work. People need to be babysat, you can't give them freedom.

>>3826053
I draw weird explicit stuff in my work all the time. I use my own property for it and I don't cater to random retards for cash. You frame the thing as a taboo thing but you're just wrong. It's a matter of integrity and professionalism. If you draw porn of copyrighted property to make a living you deserve no respect, and I work 10x more than you.

>>3826058
its all about the age not the look

>>3826059
oh, I can agree with that.
But deviantart did it
tumblr did it
twitter is now doing it

I think we're seeing a pattern here

>>3826034
They were deleted for avatarposting and using a signature

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GET FUCKED PEDOFAGS
OH GODDD IT'S BEEN A PLEASURE WATCHING YOU RATS JUMP FROM EVERY SINGLE SHIP
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I read Twitter's policy. I don't see any hint of them removing pornography, their stance is exclusively about child exploitation or things that might encourage it, like drawings of child exploitation.
In fact they state that nudity for artistic purposes doesn't even need to be filed as sensitive media.
Basically you're just a bunch of pedos getting btfo.

>>3826060
>for them it doesn't matter if character is underage or just looks underage. as long as they can call you a pedo they will do it.
This. Whether a character *is* under 18 but doesn't look that way, or *looks* under 18 but is actually older, they will often come for it. It would be one thing if they were just after the pedophiles, but pretty much anything that hints of a minor causes the censors to go wild. This is much, much more than about lolicon, and we need to fight back before it completely hobbles any kind of portrayal of anyone young-looking.

>>3826092
The only case where a drawn character is "not underage but looks underage" happens in anime. It's always animeshit that does this, and you know why? Because it tries to be as close to pedo as possible in the first place. Other styles can clearly differentiate characters so that they look adult even when they're flat.

>>3826098
>The only case where a drawn character is "not underage but looks underage" happens in anime. It's always animeshit that does this, and you know why? Because it tries to be as close to pedo as possible in the first place. Other styles can clearly differentiate characters so that they look adult even when they're flat.
True, so basically they are trying to ban anime, which is some people's only reason to live.

>>3826106
>which is some people's only reason to live
I only see a positive outcome here

>>3826098
you know that it's sometimes hard to say a (real) person's age only by looking at them, right? especialy for women, who are constantly split between the need to look youthful and mature at the same time.
I know 15 years old girls that could order beers in a bar without anyone batting an eye, and 21 girls that need to produce ID every single time.
So paradoxaly, drawing all adult characters as unmistakingly adult is actualy unrealistic.

>>3826098
Would you call Chris Sanders "anime"? I'd say cartoon features (big head, big eyes, lowered facial features, lack of lines on the face, rounded features, etc) have something in common with infantilization, so it becomes common in all cartoon styles.

>>3826111
>you know that it's sometimes hard to say a (real) person's age only by looking at them, right? especialy for women, who are constantly split between the need to look youthful and mature at the same time.
>I know 15 years old girls that could order beers in a bar without anyone batting an eye, and 21 girls that need to produce ID every single time.
>So paradoxaly, drawing all adult characters as unmistakingly adult is actualy unrealistic.
Thank you, this is what I was trying to say when I was worried about "youthfulness" being banned but couldn't find the words. Basically any attractive woman has some aspects that could get her confused for an extremely mature 17 year old, unless she is so old that she has wrinkles and shit.

Remember, the problem is bad rules or laws is that they don't always get interpreted by sane or rational people. In an effort to ban pedophiles they can end up running most forms of artistic beauty off the platform.

>>3826111
I understand this but this is porn we're talking about. If your 18yo characters look like kids you're not fooling anyone. Also there's a big difference between looking underage and looking like a little kid. Sure there are 14yos that look 18 but no 18yo looks like she's 10 (and before you post that asian girl, save some extremely rare exception).

>>3826115
>Chris Sanders
draws adults clearly as adults

>>3825861
>Lots of artists have already been banned.
Such as?

>>3826092
this isn't about lolicon or '''protecting children''' at all, it's about controlling speech by slowly whittling away at the edges of permissible expression. normalfags & big name artists wont call foul because they're afraid of being labeled as pedo sympathizers. i think loli/shota is fucking weird and /ss/ actually triggers me a lot for personal reasons but this sort of policy is completely broken and impossible to fairly enforce even at a glance. this is what happens when we get complacent and stop standing up to protect all speech.

>>3826123
well to be fair, I'm currently dating a 24 year old girl who was asked, by an actual middle school girl, in what grade she was.
Granted, the context in which it happened (a youtuber, aimed at young people, giving a conference for his fans) wasn't helping, but she was mistaken for being 10 years younger than she is.

(and before anyone ask, I can't actualy touch her when she dresses so young-like on purpose. Giving herself pigtails and calling me "oniichan" was actualy the biggest boner killer I ever saw. And I'm a lolicon)

>>3826130
Yeah when I was 18 I briefly dated a 13 year old who lied to me. Thankfully I found out on time.

>Giving herself pigtails and calling me "oniichan" was actualy the biggest boner killer I ever saw.
oniichan would be a boner killer for me too, I much prefer to be called daddy

>private company banning pedo shit
>pedos: "waaah they're not allowed to do that to me, i want my pedo art back, how do you know she's not 2000 years old wwaaaaah.
go make your own website then you manchildren, no wonder you tards are pedos

>>3825906
>it's their platform therefore I am okay with a handful of people controlling what we can post and talk about on the internet
Retard

>>3826143
Calling me daddy would be impossible for her. She can't even call me by my name, because it's the same as her father's

>>3826130
the fuck.Why does she do the "oniichan" thing?

>>3826154
Because I like loli and she knows it. She thought I would like it.

>>3826152
>4chan doesn't control what we can post and talk about on the internet
>every website ever doesn't control what we can post and talk about
that's not an argument anon

>>3826155
did you tell her to stop 'cause it seems like you dont like it.

>loliniggers are getting btfo
this is a good thing

>b-but a drawing of a child engaging in a sexual situation is not totes pedophilia at all! the child is not real at all! MUH FREEZE PEACH

go the fuck to >>>/pol/ you fucking pedophile turd

>>3826157
Anon forced against his will
The tables have turned

>>3826157
well she's a clever girl, she tried that to arouse me and saw that it backfired, so she doesn't do it anymore.
She WILL do it when I'm horny and she isn't though, to douse my enthusiasm...

Reminder the pretend pedo haters are pedos themselves reverse trolling to keep their precious lol taboo and underground. This is good news for pedos as most already have terabytes of the stuff to last until they reach old age. Hardly could give a FUCK.

>>3826161

>>3826153
>Calling me daddy would be impossible for her

It's amazing how giddy the people who support the ban in this thread are, I'm indifferent to all of this but the reaction makes it sound as though the lolifags hurt you guys personally, did something happen?

Anyone else find it weird how obsessed some people are with /pol/? Like this >>3826158 lunatic here who can't help but mention /pol/ in a totally unrelated thread?

>>3826161
Honestly you should've played along with the oniichan thing and one-upped her by shouting BANKAI while ejaculating

>>3826167
They won't be happy until everyone is drawing generic Asanagi-tier big boob pinups.

>>3826169
not that anon but of course it's related, /pol/ makes the same appeal to free speech when it's about nazism

>>3826167
they're fucking mental anon, have you not seen them in the wild?

>>3826060
>>3826092
This. People in this thread saying "pedo" are literally just social justice warriors looking for something to feel self-righteous about.
To them, it doesn't matter whether something is underage or not. What matters is that they FEEL like GOOD PEOPLE for throwing someone else under the bus.

>>3826173
>all these mental gymnastics just to pretend this thread has anything to do with /pol/
>MUH NAZIS
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>3826176
It will happen to them to. They will draw the "wrong" thing, tell the wrong joke, use the wrong language, etc..

>>3826061
Blah blah, you're talking only from ego. There is nothing differentiating you from those drawing copyrighted material. You're just biased. It's normal, because you want pride in your inventions, but be sure that no one else but you cares that you draw original stuff over copyrighted material, and those who seem to care are delusional egotistic people like you.

>>3826182
I'm not surprised you don't even know what integrity is.

>>3826186
A lie of the ego telling you you are above certain aspects of life while you are immersed in the same reality as anyone else. That is ego. Go on ego jerking to your OCs art and your hard work. What count are results. Are you having them? Good, then stop complaining about people having their slice of cake. You are just lying to yourself to be judgemental.

>>3826169
>/pol/yps get mad when they get called pedophiles

hit a bit close home, eh /pol/?

Anyone that's on the fence ITT, would you allow your kid to be alone with someone who masturbates to loli?

>>3826188
We're not on /pol/ retard, this is /ic/

>>3826189
yes that person is fucking BASED

>>3826189
I seriously hope people who have kids don't browse this shithole

>>3826189
>>3826196
imagine having parents who browse 4chan hahahaha what kind of pathetic loser parent would do that

>>3826189
If it's a person I know they aren't actually pedophiles, yes.

Otherwise I won't let my child stay alone near anyone I don't know enough about.

>>3826189
To be honest, I don't want my kids alone with anyone I don't personaly know and trust.
Pedo priests, teachers, coachs and such are sadly quite a common occurence.

>>3826061
ah now i see why you dont like the idea of people drawing r34. I can respect your perspective on it and i understand why you dislike it so much. I draw r34 but dont make a living on it. I just enjoy it is all.

>>3826189
they are going to tell you that they arent real because they are drawings (even tho the idea behind loli is to get aroused by a sexualized underage child)

one senior animator of MLP was caught with child porn in his hdd, so take that as you will.

>>3826194
/pol/tards get a bit stingy when you call them out, tho.

ESPECIALLY when you criticize their BASED and REDPILLED HONORARY ARYAN NIHONGO EMPIRE where producing, distributing and owning child porn was illegal until 2013

>Loli and Shota
Not loli and shota.
Everyone under 18.
And 99% anime characters are under 18
Picrelated is loli

>>3826026
>weebshit is dead
Is this delusion or denial?

>>3826203
What the fuck are you talking about? Take your off-topic shit to >>>/pol/

>>3826203
*legal

>>3826205
All of them are lolis

>>3826189
Art is my way of coping with my loneliness to begin with. How would I ever end up having kids? You wouldn’t believe how much crime rates are lowered by copefuel.

REMINDER

https://twitter.com/i/moments/851713200537993216

>>3826211
tell that to the judge

>>3826217
I don't remember any cases where someone was sued for this. Except maybe NZ case from 2008(?) or something. It was happy ending as I remember.

>>3826215
cool

How long before anime porn is banned altogether

>>3826229
go to the UK

>>3826215
Pretty funny, the people in this thread shouting "PEDO" over some drawings are probably actual pedophiles. I think they doth protest too much...

dang lolicon is such a popular subject here
this thread has only been up for like 6 hours and it has already have over 130 comments

>>3825861
Why don't they just make a Japanese site where no one can tell them what to do? They don't have to use an american site like twitter.

>>3826223
I remember some cp artist being arrested somewhere, it was not the US or Europe, I think South America. There's a photo of him in handcuffs looking super sad and surrounded by pictures of lolis pissing

>>3826232
The UN loli ban thread was crazy popular too

>>3826232
>140 replies
>38 posters
it's just an active thread with people having a conversation. It's actualy more civil than I would have expected.

>>3826232
4chan is changed
There is a lot resetera trannies, tumblr, reddit and facebook here.
Hell even mods are resetera. You know his name. I can't post it, or he will ban me.

Wana some experiment? Create shitty shitposting thread. /pol/ and /v/ tier.
And create loli thread.
Wait 5 min. Refresh catalog.
Loli thread will be deleted. Sometimes it can be deleted in first 1 minute
Shitposting /pol/ thread will never be deleted.
And /ic/ has no mods.
Think about it.

>>3826098
Dumbass. They aren't trying to be close to pedo you dumb fucking roastie piece of shit. White women are so deluded it is insane. Japanese women don't look like masculine retarded apes. That's what the artists are trying to draw. Cute looking Japanese women who aren't big boned abhorrent monsters.

What an embarrassing thread.

>>3826238
i wouldn't say "civil" some people in here are kind of on the vulgar.

>>3826240
nah cause they did mod away that Gohan avator poster

>>3826240
>You know his name. I can't post it, or he will ban me.
Post it with your phone or something.

>>3826249
It was mass reporting. We have half assed self moderation here.
He was mass reported because of spam. And he was banned not instantly but after fucking day or two. In loli case resetera tranny report thread and resetera mod instantly delete it.

>>3826262
>Everyone who reports is from resetera
>Every mod who deletes is from resetera
Audacious claims, but do they have any proof?

>>3825861
unironically curious desu, how many people in this thread are from tumblr?

>>3826172
>Asanagi
Implying that's a bad thing.

>>3826268
https://img.fireden.net/a/image/1445/75/1445755464164.png

One of faggots who ruin 4chan and especially /a/, after /pol/ fired Modcat.

>>3826278
It is.

I don't give a shit if they ban loli porn but where is the line drawn? Loli porn is clearly depicting a child but what about older characters?Look at this example, Sensei from bokuben in in her early-mid twenties so therefore there should be no issues.Now look at Hotaru,Hotaru is 17 therefore porn of her is not okay.
But this makes no sense as if anything Hotaru looks older than Sensei.

>>3826233
A: So Pixiv. Too bad Ameriburgers shat that site up with their cancerous garbage
B: Twitter is extremely popular with Nippers.

>>3826284
>where is the line drawn?
For the purposes of this policy, a minor means any person under the age of 18 years. Examples of content that depicts or promotes child sexual exploitation include, but are not limited to:

>>3825861
Wait who are the lots of artists?

>>3826296

>>3826215
Damn I remember that guy. I used to post there

>>3826282
>Implying

>>3826284
wait so I'm a pedophile if I like the girl on the right wtf??

>>3826278
Asanagi's breasts don't even look like human body parts, and he draws all his characters much shorter and fatter than they really are. Pic related looks like a horse's ass instead of a human's. Combine that with terrible droopy sameface syndrome and yes, everyone drawing like generic Asanagi would be a very bad thing.

>>3826306
that looks fucking terrible

>>3826304
Yes. And Yoko from gifrelated is 14 years old too

>>3826297
40,000 artists got knocked out? How is that even possible?

>>3826306
>Dunning Kruger victim.
>with shit taste
Typical /ic/kek

>>3826306
The cheek is the worst part about his art.

>>3826319
ANATOMY REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>3826306
Did Asanagi really draw this garbage? It looks like shit lol

>>3826310
oh god oh noooo

what if i draw human + animal parts like kemono but lolis

>>3826360
>>3825861
WELCOME TO THE NEW ERA

>>3825861
they should have banned trump

>>3826360
Just don't draw lolis.
It's not difficult.

>>3826372
tumblr banned loli's too and guess what happened a year later?

I think it's safe to say twitter wont allow porn by the end of the year. It's ECCHI TIME BOYS

Show how long until violence is completely outlawed? If we start banning erotic fiction, how is fictional violence justified?

>>3826376
All porn should be banned. Maybe then the incels will actually stop fapping and leave their basements and try being productive.

Welp, goodbye Splatoon fanart...

>>3825862
>>3825865
>>3825890
>>3825914
sorry i dont spend all day jacking off. i have enough lewdshit on my hard drive to get my dick up. stop chasing the dopamine drips and start getting real gains.

>>3826372
Re-read rules
Everyone under 18 is loli

>>3826398
>real gains.
like shitposting in /ic/?

>>3826399

Wait a minute... Does this mean that some of the JoJo art is illegal by DEFAULT?

It's just lines on a digital canvas niggas chill lmao

>>3826284
>>3826310
>>3826211
>>3826205
>>3826031

if you seriously base your morality on law you might as well just be a slave. If shes sucking and blowing at 16, how is that not a full grown woman? in many places it would be straight up LEGAL to fuck her? are amerifats really this insecure about hot young girls?
Obviously real pedololi shit with actual kids should be fucking nuked but if u think someone at 17 years and 364 days old is a child you should be shot too.

>>3825861
What's the deal? It's just lines on a digital canvas. I bet all the faggots in this thread going "pedo" are actual pedophiles who are projecting

dream-cassette banned yet?

>>3825861
this has been in effect for a while now but was just now translated for japanese twitter

>>3826408
People literally go to prison after sex with 17 years old IRL.
>Obviously real pedololi shit with actual kids should be fucking nuked
This was pretty normal back in 1920. Greatest humans in history were real pedophile by modern standards. But sadly 2D rights will be "defended" again

accounts have been getting banned for loli for several years, the comic lo account for instance was banned early last year. this isn't anything new at all. also these "new rules" (which are more just a clarification) have been in effect for 3 months and haven't noticed any increased number of bans than what was normal.

>>3826444
>People literally go to prison after sex with 17 years old IRL.
maybe if u live in some cuck ass place but really if no one finds out what are they gonna do

>>3826389
you still got the squid sister and pearl and marina

if they ban all NSFW content that'd be a shame. Black people love posting their ghetto porn there.

>>3825917
Not, stupid is confuse fiction with reality.

>>3826388
Shut up, attwhore bitch.

>>3826297
Wow...

>Anyone who is for this must be a closet pedo projecting!!!
You guys are pathetic.

>>3826526
>tfw people actually believe and act like that
The joking has gone too far.

>>3826526

oof toddler sick fuckko >>3826215

>>3826306

>>3826388
all drawing should be banned. Maybe people would do something useful instead.

good

>>3826548
Didn’t history already prove this didn’t work.

>>3826153
Lol
I’d ask for pics but pretty sure that going to be a no

>>3826215
I wonder if it was actual pictures or just drawings that are legally considered pictures of the same thing

Kinda fucked either way

>>3826561
It legally can't be drawings though.

How is this a bad thing? I get that it's because of sponsors, but it helps cleanse the higher levels of the internet from disgusting and immoral shit, and that's not wrong. Society needs this. Men's sexuality is inherently destructive and needs to be controlled.

finally all those cartoon girls are safe

>>3826548
ask muslims how that turned out

>>3826617
>everyone praying towards one god
>absolute harmony
>a whole city built in a desert
Well?

>>3825861
I'm not doubting this is real, I just want to know some examples of banned artists & art and the size of the impact it currently has.

>>3826640
This, why isn’t there more talk of it if so?

>>3826640
so far theres been zero evidence of artists getting banned or removed

>>3826641
probably because the talk of loli brings more interest in terms of debate.

Private corporations can do what they want that they feel is in their best interests. This is only gonna keep spreading more sites.

>>3825861
i think it doesnt really matter. Digital artists in first place draw in a base of marketing and targets, so if you are a loli artist, is because you choose that target, or becuase you truly like lolis. If the market changes, then you just change the target:
-if you draw for the money, it doesnt matter
-if you draw becuase you like it, it doesnt matter too because no one can stop you from draw those things anyways and keep it for you, the thing is that you cant upload on the internet.. wich means that if you want that... is because in reality you wanted draw for the ego and the views and not becuase you really wanted... so just change the target.

If you are a multi-targets nsfw artist, doesnt matter too, because you only have to draw any minor age character as an adult, and problem solved: you still draw things of the franchise, and the character, with no problems, people really dont care about those things (unless they are of the specific loli target). And you can allways change the target or adjust it or play with the limit... lets say a furry artist drawing "loli anthro".
If you can't change your target it means that you are not a good digital artist anyway, so is no loose to erase some of them. In the end any artist that exist in the internet lives of the exposure.

>>3826670
Imagine coping this hard. At least you can see into their mind now.

>>3826641
>>3826645
>>3826647
Yeah the debate is a very big part of it, but I really owuld like to take a step back and look at the casualties and the specific tearms of service changes before we go into it more deeply. this could be just a scare or bigger than we ever imagine we just need details of what's going on.

>>3826640
>>3826641
>>3826645
https://twitter.com/dikk0
You can find his alt he made today through danbooru.

>>3826010
Not him, but unless you're a neurologist (or have peer-reviewed sources) you can't make the claim that fapping and playing video games are the exact same thing psychologically.

https://help.twitter.com/en/rules-and-policies/sexual-exploitation-policy

Here you go everyone.

>>3826645
I dont know if it was a coincidence or not, but a nude image of Lana fro (a porn animator) Diives twitter, earlier today.

I clicked on the image, left my page there, and later that day it said that image was removed. I dont know if Diives did that himself, or was it do the new policies.

>>3826832
*removed from Diives twitter

>>3826025
> Also society: Man, how come nobody makes good art anymore?

>>3825861
So what are the guidelines specifically? Canon age of character, or looking too young? What looks too young?
Also, is it an algorithm or reporting/manual detection?

>>3826828
Good.

>>3826841
Looking too young will get you every time.

>>3826632
looks like somebody slept through the Arab spring until now.

>>3826861
Yes but
>What looks too young?
Obviously Lucky Star proportions with flat chest is unacceptable. What about LS proportions with boob? Taller character with flat chest? When is the eye:head ratio too big, and can attaching big boob & hip to a "child-face" character rectify the problem? I have so many questions.

>>3826031
Only in the OVA's. She's a legal adult in the anime.

>>3826841
>implying
If they used an algorithm, you would win every single time. That's why they don't.

they are already making pawoo accounts

>>3826889
Imagine being this based that it starts trending almost immediately.

>>3826889
hot af ngl

>>3826889
Unf soft

>>3826889
Based Japan

Guys, are going to have to become sexual terrorists like in Shimoneta?

>>3826889
would fuck

>>3827095
>Shimoneta was a joke anime but the world is getting closer and closer to it
It was funny then, but I don't know about now.

>>3825861
>>3825862
G O O D

If you think otherwise, you're a pervert, and perverts are bad people.

>>3827115
Please go read 1984

>>3826073

>>3827118
>website bans pedoshit
>muh free speech
>muh totalitarian government
>muh slippery slope
lmao

>>3827125
clearly didn't read 1984.
I'm not making a point about free speech or a totalitarian government. One of the most overlooked themes in 1984 is sexual repression. Our sexuality is what makes people have a quizzical nature. It's our only bodily function that makes us feel good and people naturally can't control what turns them on. Obviously pedophilia is bad, duh. But once we start limiting what people can draw, that's where we really begin to have a slippery slope to what is accepted and what is not. We should never give in to any type of banning like this. Also just saying, there is no study that shows that someone who likes loli is more likely to be a pedo.

And just fyi I'm not even into loli, I'm a graphic designer. I just don't like the idea of banning topics for art.

>>3827115
The Jr. Anti-Sex League hard at work.

>>3825861
The problem with this is that who judges what is loli. Theres so many styles of art that will make it difficult. Such as chibi or the character being flat chested. The line is so blurry.

This is the reason why i don't like this banning idea. You're going to get the wrong people in trouble. I also stand of the side that is this just drawings and NOT real people.

I don't get why people don't understand that.

>>3827118
hhahahahaha he's unironic about this
too hahahahahhahaha
what's next, brand new world?

>>3827132
Was money also a huge factor in 1984? I can't recall.

>>3827132
Twitter is a private company. They're free to ban whatever they want. Time will tell if they made the right decision or not. Tumblr banned all NSFW entirely, which was their decision, but we'll see how it turns out for them in the end.
If lolifags keep their art private (i.e. not posting it online or just sharing it privately on designated forums), they won't have to worry about getting vanned.

WE 1984 NOW

>>3825914
>>first they came for the lolis and I did not care because I was not a lolicon
good. I hope they fucking ban anime next

>>3827137
It's not hard to use your imagination to fap. Most porn is trash-tier anyway.

You think they'll ever ban furries/bestiality porn?

>>3827153
I hope so.

>>3826215
(((Goldberg)))

>i will finally get rich by partaking in loli contraband and creating loli cartels

>>3825861
The irony about this push against loli is that it is holding drawings of girls to a higher standard than that of actual photography or drawings of boys. For example, if social media decided to ban nude photos of people who only look underage, this would be decried as promoting sexist and perhaps racist body standards, and rightfully so.

>>3825914
>tfw no one here knows what this is referring to

>>3826026
I want to breed that 90s anime pussi so g-d damn bad

>>3827158
i know what he's talking about.

>>3827142
Not really, it's talked about when Winston reads the book at O’Brien's place. War keeps the 3 remaining super powers in order to keep ahead of finances and resources indefinitely. There is also talk of the proles (Basically the 99%) and how they could easily overtake the upper class but the thought police (big brother) keeps them in check. So you could say there are some small themes about money/capitalism.

>>3826189
Like if i knew if they were masturbating? I wouldn't want to know that. So no. As long if they were functioning civilian idc what they do in their free time. Just if it isn't actual CP then theres no problems.

>>3827153
I rather have them ban furries than this just to see the large ass shit storm.

>>3827167
I mean, me too, that's why I'm interested in whether or not it happens eventually. It's also interesting that the general populace has an idea of fictional CP but not fictional dog fucking. Maybe it's just a matter of it reaching more people's ears.

Can you imagine coming to the art board and celebrating that certain subjects shouldn't be allowed?

>>3827172
The times really have changed. I see why art is mandatory in education now.

>>3827171
>fap to fictional dog fucking
>go to actual cons dressed as animals and fuck eachother
>reaching

>>3827172
Fuck anime, though.

>>3826189
>letting strangers be alone with your kids period
no

if i knew them enough it wouldnt be a considerable factor

>>3827125
First they ban loli porn then they ban adult porn, it'll happen, just like Tumblr. It won't be the end of the world and there will be other sites, but the userbase for the other sites will be incredibly smaller. Also the ban of porn on twitter will put a lot of NSFW artists in a bad spot. So if you are a NSFW Twitter artist make a backup site asap and start building up a following so you're not completely fucked when Twitter pulls the trigger. Godspeed.

>>3827156
fucking based

>>3827200
Literally who is pulling the strings on banning NSFW? Christians?

>>3827172
I'm bug chasing for toxic loads.

>>3827211
>Christians?
No, but you're getting warmer.

>>3827211
A coalition of prudish puritans from both sides of the right-left spectrum.

the thinking, or lack thereof that fiction is okay to ban dumbfounds me

if you support this shit you are a literal cancer to free-thinking nations

i hope it becomes illegal so that when people try to incarcerate over drawings enmasse some people will get dropped and remind you why you dont fuck with victimless crimes, fuck all of you

>>3827224
WAAAAHHH WAHHHHH WAHHHHHHH

>>3827211
Jealous western cartoonists.

>>3827200
>if you are a NSFW Twitter artist make a backup site asap
Like what? Everything else is either shit or has a non existent user base.
Patreon is eventually gonna ban nsfw too anyway.
Maybe the Pornhub network will swoop in and create porn monopoly for that, too.

>>3827167
It would be horrible lmao

But especially since they can be more public about it, they’d probably do IRL protests at their headquarters wearing fursuits because even though they’re outcasts they’re looked at with a type of flustered humor rather than hysterical scorn like the loli/shota posters who also have to worry about getting labeled an actual pedo or being discovered for actually being one like what ends up happening for some

>>3827224
>free-thinking nations
lmao, good joke. watch too many jordan peterson videos?

>>3827143
Meh, I feel like art isn’t as big a part of Twitter’s user base as it was for Tumblr even though a lot of artists use it - it’s more like a Facebook alternative and a way to keep track of “celebrities”.

It will be interesting to see what happens if they ban all NSFW though, most IRL pornstars went there after the Tumblr purge or were already there and made it their designated hangout.

If they kick them all out they’ll have to scramble for a new home or just go back to being accessible only though the content they put out.

this thread is really bringing all the pseuds full force. anything to defend the loli, i suppose.

>>3827143
But they are a public forum, not a private one.

>>3827238
You are so retarded, that doesn't mean shit. It's still a private company that can do what it pleases, it's not a fucking public park.

>>3827238
twitter is not a public forum, the only thing that is a public forum on twitter is trumps account.

>>3827211
people who championed for the sexual revolution and degeneracy are now the biggest puritans around, pushing this kind of shit.

liberals and lefties are such fucking weird creatures, man.

>>3827249
I know right. They are such cucks not to want to jack off to chartoon children, so weird.

>>3827234
it wouldnt be a joke if you werent the tumor

>>3827249
You are so naive if you think it has much to do with politics, and not these companies looking to reach emerging markets like a shitload of Chinese, Indians, Africans, etc. getting their first phones and starting getting into the internet. Places that are much less liberal. There's no growth left in the West, and it's always about money, dumbass.

This ban particularly bothers me because this doesn't stop OR regulate the amount of minors posting their nudes publicly. It seems to only target artists. Say what you want about loli/shota but hell, I would rather ban nsfw because at least then it seems like twitter actually cares about real victims.

>>3827240
>>3827242
Actually, that is debatable and has been a major issue in social media and free speech debates, the answer isn't clear, but the courts did challenge FB on this for another separate topic. Though Twitter isn't the place to post porn (especially loli), I will admit. On the free speech liberty side I would say it's wrong to ban it, on the puritan moralistic idealist side (since people/normies cant handle their shit), I'd say it's the right thing to do, as it is a public forum that has children users present, but then again, parents shouldn't be letting their kids screw around on shit social media, or partially on the internet, but that's just my opinion, coming from a luke-warm libertarian side.

>>3827242
>twitter is not a public forum

I agree with this, but that means they should not avail themselves to certain protections afforded to public forums and utilities, such as immunity from illegal content posted by users. This has traditionally been the trade-off that government has used to promote free speech and privacy.

This is why I've been against things like FOSTA, because it shifts responsibility, undermines our values, and sends a muddled message to industry. Promoting free speech as an ideology is crucial to maintaining the first amendment as law.

>>3827259
This.

>>3827132
Ok pedo

>>3827143
>Twitter is a private company. They're free to ban whatever they want.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtXAxk9nDcQ

>>3827258
I just kind of laugh at the "free speech" arguments online, which is the last place any free speech laws are applicable. Anyone who expects free speech protections on private property are just setting themselves up for failure.

And, it's why I am adamantly opposed to making the internet a public utility, because then the Feds have control of it. Fuck that.

I avoid social media, now that it's become clear how much of it is controlled by Google, and Facebook, in the name of ad dollars. No interest in that, so I don't use Twitter, Facebook, or any of it, in an official capacity that can be connected to me, via throwaway emails and such.

I don't consume or make loli or shota, and I definitely don't support it, but if you are, you do you. Just know that "community standards" will almost always come into play with that kind of material, and if you want venues for it that are free from censorship, corporations like Facebook, Tumblr, and Twitter are the LAST places you should be looking. That's just common sense.

>>3827300
Not so much in favor of loli, but of freedom of speech and expression, my stance on that is very libertarian, though I see what you are saying.

>>3827300
nearly all public dialogue and opinion is now sourced to these places, they have control over and know how to manipulate popular opinion

i would expect the exact opposite opinion. these platforms should be considered public so that they are forced to not manipulate people

>>3827307
This is a good point.

>>3827307
No, they shouldn't be public, because I don't want the government - any government - controlling it. It's a BAD idea. I won't go into why, google it, there are tons of opinions about it online by people way smarter than me.

These platforms don't "own" our discussions, they own the room it happens in.

You want to hang loli posters on the wall? Won't be their room.

Besides, the Constitution was written to limit the *government* from suppressing political speech, not you posting loli.

You want to do that? Stop looking to large corporations to support you, they have no reason or liability to host you.

>>3827315
>Constitution only stops the government from suppressing your speech
Yeah, no.

>>3827307
bro you don't give these companies any credit on how lax they are. putting it in other hands will be way more controlled.

I can't find proof that this is even happening. The English version of that page is months old, and it specifies realistic depictions. It seems like it just got translated and the japs flipped out.

>>3827315
Heavy handed corporatism is just as bad as heavy handed government. Both contain power over people via different methodology.

These platforms will always "own" discussions as long as people stick to their platforms; people don't like to move and don't move when places reflect their echo-chambers.

Thus, there's no point to free speech if you're screaming to yourself in your room.

Yes, the constitution is a restriction of government, not a granting of rights, it's also in their(aka, our) interest ideally to uphold peoples rights through action

>>3827330
We hold our government accountable to a much higher degree than corporations. I lost track of how many times I've heard "Corporations are free to ban whatever they please because its private" as an excuse to justify being shitheads
censorship isn't censorship just because it occurs outside government control

>>3827325
Uh, yeah. The First Amendment was written to control what the government restricts in terms of speech.

Since then, some rather important Supreme Court decisions have refined what the
freedom of speech" definitions are - and the one thing it's NOT, is a license to say anything you want, anywhere you want.

Read the actual fucking Constitution:

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

"Congress shall make no LAWS", not "You can post loli anywhere you want."

And, the first amendment does not apply in any way shape or form in a privately owned platform, which is ALL social media.

>>3827153
Chances are a high percentage of the employees at companies like Twitter are furries themselves, so no.

>>3827335
I disagree completely, but I'm not going to derail the thread over it.

>>3827338
>derail a dying thread

>>3827336
That depends if it's a public or private forum, also I don't agree, it gives corporations way too much power, and creates corporate kingdoms and powerhouses to do and influence as they please. Freedom of speech does bleed into public and to an extent private institutions.

Imagine giving corporations carte blanche to fuck you over just to spite the government!

>>3827335
>>3827343
Are you two retarded? The government has no clue how the internet works, did you watch any of the hearings of zuckerberg? Also look at any laws passed from the government which are almost always bad in terms of free speech. UK, china, EU, US repealed net neutrality, FOSTA.

fuck, from the zuckerberg hearings they were literally upset that google popped up negative articles about them.

>>3827343
Imagine thinking the government would be BETTER.

Go look at NBC, CBS, and ABC for what government rules are for "free expression". If the internet became a public utility, the FCC would control it.

Yeah. You don't fucking want that.

THINK. Private forums are exempt. You want to post something Twitters decides is objectional? MAKE YOUR OWN FUCKING FORUM.

Most of this thread is lazy assed weeaboos and pedos who are too lazy to do that, and expect Twitter to support their niche fetish.

>>3827095
PENIS

Next stop: Newgrounds.
Can't wait until they start banning furries.

>>3827355
Wrong.

>>3827353
>Net neutrality repealed
that is giving more power to private

If giving government power to tell places to act like public areas is bad I don't see how it isn't already inherently bad that public areas exist.

The government is not being granted power to control peoples speech, its being granted power to force what amounts of information monopolies to sit the fuck down and let people do their thing.

>>3827355
Literally all of those are examples that private entities are abusive as fuck with their control of narrative, and they arent held to standards of the USG anyways.

>>3827365
(you) bait.

>>3827373
Then don't use those corporation's platforms. Which is why I don't. Problem solved.

>>3827376
I don't put my eggs in one basket, doesn't change the fact everyone else uses them.

Facebook has like 1/7th of the world population on it last checked

Why should a company with more people under its wings than many countries COMBINED be allowed to control the free flow of information? Even if its legal its antithetical to freedom

Most people are not even aware its happening, whats unacceptable under a government shouldnt be acceptable under such a wide reaching entity, private or not

>>3827376
>A basket of people not using the massive social media public debate/conversational forums can make a difference
>Shut down and ban dissenting opinions as conversations move ever further online
>Manipulation out the wahoo
Because an addict (corporation) can stop whenever they want to, they know what's right and what's wrong.

>>3827383
>big bad corporation won't host muh fetish
>why can't I just show everyone my degenerate art without restriction
Cry me a river.

>>3827394
I went off track and stopped thinking of drawings, but sure I guess.

No need to project though, we mind our own business and just draw and post our work. Other people have to cry the river for anything to happen since our literal existence in their space is apparently a travesty

>>3827398
Lolifags are no different than 'virtuous pedophiles' in terms of 'never acting on it'.
It's better to be safe than sorry when it comes to enabling anything related to underage porn (fictional or otherwise).
Don't get your panties in a wad when society rejects your degenerate shit.
I would be just as glad if furries and gurofags got the boot too.

>>3827355
>If the internet became a public utility, the FCC would control it.

The FCC controls broadcast tv content because the airwaves are owned by the government. Internet services becoming utilities would be more akin to phone companies given immunity to the kind of content traveling over their networks, in return for not discriminating against certain kinds of content.

If the social media giants want to be immune from the activity of their users, then I think the same principles should apply. I'm not arguing for or against any kind of content here, I just feel these companies should not be able to have their cake and eat it too at expense of the public.

>>3827403
vorefags are no different than 'virtuous cannibals' in terms of 'never acting on it'.

rapefags are no different than 'virtuous rapists' in terms of 'never acting on it'.

its literally "better safe than sorry" to ban everything with that stupid as fuck logic, lets make every place humans can possibly interact like a preschool since mature themes are too hard for you

>>3827408
also you are fucking stupid if you think lolicon invariably equates to sexual interest in children

>>3827408
Think about it. Would anyone really miss vore/rape/guro/etc. if they were gone? Probably not, only fellow degerates.
Bottom line is society is wising up to degeneracy and keeping that shit quarantined.
>>3827411
>person gets aroused to the idea of underage individuals in sexual situations
>"it's totally different from pedophilia you guys"
Lol

>>3827413
>someone who doesnt enjoy lolicon tells lolicons why they like loli
Lol

>i dont like thing and its not popular enough to get a big outcry so its okay to ban it :)

>>3827414
Yeah. Same shit with trannies. They're a small enough minority that we shouldn't cater to their every whim.
You still haven't stated why lolifags are so crucial to society that they need to be protected.
Just go keep your pedoshit to yourself and leave normies alone. It's not that hard.

>>3827416
muh degeneracy
we dont cater to their every whim, they want you to fuck off and leave them alone. bathroom issues didn't exist until you made it an issue

>Just go keep your pedoshit to yourself and leave normies alone. It's not that hard.
which is what was happening before people cried a fucking river about it, dipshit

i cannot possibly believe people are pushing back after i tell them theyre degenerates and should be banned!

>>3825861
so in the end is this good or bad?

>>3827416
fast cars are not crucial to society, violence in movies or games is not crucial to society, sugary drinks are not crucial to society, art is not crucial to society yet all of these things probably effect it in some way, surely you arent so stupid that some fucking porn you dont like is any different

>>3827420
Of course you probably support trannies too, lol.
You still can't come up with a convincing argument as to why lolishit should be protected.
But I wouldn't expect any different from a degenerate.

>>3827421
Good. Lolicon won't be missed.

>>3827423
Those things aren't simulated child porn. Nice false comparison.

>>3827427
>You still can't come up with a convincing argument as to why lolishit should be protected.

>>3825862
God, I hope so.

>>3827428
>simulated child porn
always funny seeing you reword a drawing to that to sound worse than it is

movies and games with violence are simulated violence too, your same arguments are no different than the crusty old neocon faggots of the 90s with that media

>>3827429
Ask any normie what they think of lolicon and they'll probably either react with disgust or won't really care. Lolifags don't have many supporters (who aren't fellow degenerates), as you can tell.

>>3827427
>You still can't come up with a convincing argument as to why lolishit should be protected.

It is on you to explain why it shouldn't be protected.
Your only point is "nasty therefore bad" which isn't an argument
>>3827434
Further proof, if you can only offer "its not liked", what makes you any different from an emotional ape trying to enforce your feelings? Sounds a lot like something a 'tranny' would do

>>3827432
Lolicon is literally underage characters in sexual situations. By definition it is child porn, albeit a simulated version.

Playing video games and watching movies don't have the same psychological effect of jacking off to porn. It's not the same thing.

>>3827436
It's based more on logic than you think. Society has no mass demand for lolicon, thus it is reasonable to assume that it will not be protected on a mass scale.
If it's restriction is inconsequential to society at large, then majority rules. It's that simple.
Now go tell your 1,000 year old loli waifu how much you love her.

>>3827440
"its not popular therefore its okay to ban" is not an argument, we can ban anything not popular by whatever retarded metric youre using.

>Lolicon is literally underage characters in sexual situations.
and? depictions of murder are literally ending a life, albiet a simulated version

>Playing video games and watching movies don't have the same psychological effect of jacking off to porn. It's not the same thing.

still irrelevant, and you have no evidence provided that it does. there are people who probably enjoy that media for sexual reasons too, thus should be grounds to ban it.

also explain how the "different psychological effect" has impacted reality, cite your sources

>>3827441
>we can ban anything not popular by whatever retarded metric youre using.
Got any examples of unpopular things that should be banned in a realistic scenario? Keep in mind it's porn we're talking about, not 'cars' or 'sugary drinks' or whatever the fuck.

>comparing cp to murder
Every time. Sex =/= killing unless its guro.

Using your 'violent vidya' example, it really says something when people who will gladly play violent video games will also refuse to play games that involve simulated molesting/fucking of a minor.
But they're the same thing, right?
https://books.google.com/books?hl=en&lr=&id=8NmCDQAAQBAJ&oi=fnd&pg=PR3&dq=info:SdLZjNOjDQkJ:scholar.google.com/&ots=arz274ZlqO&sig=7J3f-basIN45o0hcCgpvWCIrokg#v=onepage&q&f=false

>>3827455
I'm not reading a theoretical book on the matter. Link me statistics that make it worth banning, thought crime isn't a crime, and I'm not reading through all of that to find out how he concludes the difference in psychological effects

The objective of banning CP is that children are harmed, not that people have attractions to shit others don't. Unless lolicon is proven to contribute to child abuse, there is zero reason for it to be infringed on; and everything implies either no correlation, or opposite.

>Got any examples
doesn't really matter, I'm applying your logic, not brainstorming stuff to ban

>Using your 'violent vidya' example, it really says something when people who will gladly play violent video games will also refuse to play games that involve simulated molesting/fucking of a minor.
it says they dont have interest in porn games involving shit they dont like? wow, groundbreaking narrative. i also refuse to play games involving guro, because it disgusts me

I can't believe there are so many people on this board who are okay with not letting people draw what they want.

How the hell can you just ban lolicon just like that?
Where is the proof that getting rid of it benefits anyone?

Fucking
Cancer

>>3827469
Go cry to your loli waifu pedofag.
The rest of us will carry on just fine without pedoshit. The only cancer here is lolifags like yourself.

>>3827473
Might as well ban Japanese style drawings altogether then, all of it is paedophilia according to lunatics like you.

>>3827474
That would be even better actually.

>>3827473
youre an overgrown child, and not even an attractive one at that

how would you feel about banning other kinds of porn that depicts illegal acts (rape, guro, beast etc.)?

>>3827485
Personally, I'd probably support it. Again, there's really no great need for it. It's not promoting anything worth value, it's just degenerate fap material.
The majority of society probably wouldn't even miss it.

>>3827494
So you are okay with taking it away from people who enjoy it?

Why do you want more people to be unhappy?

>>3827513
Degenerates don't deserve to be happy.

>>3827519
Neither should you, you selfish piece of shit.

>>3827520
At least I don't need to rely on degerate porn to find happiness, that's on you.
Good luck and godspeed loliman.

Holy fuck I'm so sick of all you fucking SJW's shiting up not only my beloved broad but the internet as well, the one place where I could be me! Why don't all you normalfags get the fuck out and go to the club or whatever you fags did before infesting my sacred space! YOU all told me in high school that "hurr durr computers and games are for losers" but now here you are ruining everything, was ruining the outside world not good enough for you fags? Do you really need to come in my beautiful home and take everything I enjoy and care about and burn it right in front of me?! I'm not even into loli, but I know exactly where this is all headed! GET OUT GET OUT GET OUT GET OUT! LEAVE MY SPACE YOU WICKED DEMONS!

>>3827413
>rape
Rape is staple of porn you retard.

>>3827578
Why has the SJW meme word died out?

>>3827440
>By definition
Only in certain third world countries where loli is legally considered child porn.

>>3827578
If being against pedoshit makes me a 'SJW', then so be it.
Just get tor browser, then shut the fuck up and fap.

>>3827519
Degeneracy is part of human nature and needs to be expressed in someway. The more you bottle up and contain this, the uglier people will become. Let them be.

>>3827355
Lol. Have you not noticed that every website across the whole net is being pressured into censorship in fear of losing adverts?

Lets go this site! OOF can't do this. alright then this one! OOF not anymore.

Even if you made your own site at some point you're going to end up on the same problem.

>>3827673
>tor browser
I'm not a degenerate anon, I don't look at anything illegal. I have no interest in seeing real kids getting fucked, that's shit fucked up and makes my stomach turn. I'm tired of seeing people trying to censor every little thing on the internet. I'm tired of people acting like perfect little angels while trying to ruin other peoples lives for saying the "wrong" word or drawing the "wrong" thing. I think people just get board when things are peaceful so they look for things to fight against which ends up harming are society.

Since loli is mainly a japanese thing and seems to be culturally acceptable there, are there any Japan based studies that show a correlation between loli and a rise in child abuse?

>>3827731
none. Nobody wants to crime in Japan, kids bullying each other is the norm here even though you don't see it much on anime. There was a grade schooler that commited suicide(or killed) couple of weeks ago because of bullying and abuse from her dad though, her mother left it alone because "she can't do anything".

>>3826149
This, when you come to a social platform, you play by their rules, no more, no less - otherwise, move to another platform, pretty sure there's hundreds out there

>>3827494
There's no great need for fanart either. It's copyright infringement to use someone else's intellectual property right?

>>3827840
Imagine being this diluted. You don't want this guy in your army when it's time to fight.

>>3827731
No one wants to make a study like that since it would require having to talk to a lot of scummy people and trusting what they say.
Also, loli is not culturally acceptable in Japan, it's only acceptable in the art scene which most people don't give a shit about.

>>3825861
This is a good thing. Twitter's search functionality was garbage, and their community was chocked full of normalfags.

People will either move to Pawoo or Baraag. Preferably Baraag, since they allow uncensored lewds, but it doesn't have the same proven track record of Pawoo yet.

What we need is an uncensored alternative to Pixiv.

>>3826063
The pattern is that none of those platforms were specialized for porn artists, and want to cater to larger audiences. For twitter and tumblr, it's bloggers, and for deviantart, it's artists at large.

That's also ironically the reason porn artists used them, since they want to expand their audience as much as possible.

>>3826189
That's like asking people who enjoy rape porn whether they'd leave their girl alone with a rapist.

The answer is clearly no, but that doesn't stop them from enjoying it.

>>3827335
>Thus, there's no point to free speech if you're screaming to yourself in your room.
You don't have the right to make people listen to you screaming.

>>3827421
Good. Exposing normalfags to degeneracy will just provoke public outrage, which in turn will cause degenerate artists to tone down their works for appeasement. It's better for degeneracy to be confined to private forums, where it can grow and prosper unfettered by normalfag morality.

The population of degnerates will continue to grow through word-of-mouth talk of said private forums. The reason we got into this mess in the first place is that degenerate artists got greedy, and wanted to grow their fanbase at greater rates. So they exposed themselves to normalfags on their turf, and now they're whining about being rebuked by them.

Degenerate artists should crawl back to their corner of their internet, and stay there. It's better for both the degenerates and the normalfags.

>>3826832
>diives
follow better artists

>>3828233
block and mute functions exist
ignoring is literally what people do in real life

posting drawings arent screaming at people in any situation

>>3828296
>ignoring is literally what people do in real life
A corporation banning you is just a group of people collectively ignoring you.

You're still free to talk to people that won't ignore you.

>>3828324
no it isnt stinky hat

>>3828325
Yes, it is.

It's not the government's problem if people think you're weird and don't want to talk to you.

>>3828331
banning isnt ignoring, it's akin to forcing duct tape over someones mouth

>>3828334
No, because you can still speak to said people.

Just not through said platform.

>>3828344
if your country says you cant say something or you go to jail its not banning speech because you can just go to another country and say it to them then

>>3828347
No, in that case the country banned your speech.

In >>3828344, the company banned your speech.

A company is not a country and vice versa.

>>3828352
a company banning speech is still an infringement on the concept of freedom of speech and is open to criticisms of such

>>3828357
>a company banning speech is still an infringement on the concept of freedom of speech
Sure, but that's all it is. An infringement of some concept.

The company didn't write a Bill of Rights for its users, and its ToS is subject to change at any time.

Because it's a company, not a country.

>>3828357
>and is open to criticisms of such
You can criticize them, but they're free to do nothing in response.

And as long as their users stick around, they'll keep operating as normal.

>>3828368
>>3828364
wow no shit

>>3828370
good, we're in agreement

>>3826031
15-16 is hebe, no pedo

>>3829332
only pedos care about that distinction

>>3825861
Good

>>3829334
>Homicide is premeditated
>Manslaughter is “involuntary”
>Only killers care about such distinction
Your arguments are retarded mane.

>>3829334
>only pedos care about that distinction
Right because there is no difference between attracted to someone who has gone through puberty and someone who hasn't? The whole *point* of pedophilia is being attracted to people who haven't gone through puberty. Someone who is attracted to a 16 year old is just a healthy average male, according to studies.