/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>3815292
ref01

>>3815293
ref02

Now you can also draw a weeb sudoku man.

>used to draw when I was a kid but stopped because getting good seemed really hard and intimidating
>want to get back into it now
>don't want to deal with being absolutely awful for a very long time just to be only a little good

>>3815311
Just start, baby. If you don't now, then in the next stage of your life, you'll have the same realization, and have even less time to git gud.

>>3815311
Drawing is a very useful general skill, it can be useful even if you are not going to go serious with it, what are you even waiting for oldfag anon?

Tried my hand at overcooked concept art. It was fun.

>>3815321
What are you talking about, it's an absolutely useless.

>>3815329
>knowing enough about some part of reality to conceive it on paper is absolutely useless

heres something https://www.forbes.com/sites/robertglatter/2013/10/20/can-studying-art-help-medical-students-become-better-doctors/#16677eee4cdb

How do I draw from memory?

>>3815327
is that a dick anon?

ahhhhh

>>3815354
Did some pissed-off gypsy curse you or something? How the fuck can you never get better?

Bad practice

I like it, looks like how I wish to sketch

Thoughts comments?

>>3815378
((()))

>>3815378
>>>/co/mblr

>>3815367
redline

>>3815351
It's a f-forest monster lurking in the dense undergrowth.

>>3815378
tumblr/10

Anybody barely said anything about these so I’m posting again in case any new anons come in that want to tear my work apart.

>>3815431
Also already noticed that the right arm is placed too far away from the torso from this perspective, so you anons can save your time not typing that out.

>>3815431
I guess the reason so few anons said anything was, that we're a bit lost as to what to criticise first, at least I am. It's great you're learning anatomy and proportions, but I'd suggest drawing rough poses at first. This way you can learn how and in which directions the joints bend and what looks natural. So far it looks like you took an accurate building kit and just threw the parts together. Looks good, and I see you're making progress, but you have some fundamentals missing before you can work with this kind of anatomy. Keep it up!

>>3815350
Studying anatomy and internalizing all of it.

You gotta remember how the body is structured and where all the muscles are and what they do.

>>3815367
Top tier criticism ya fucking dunce, you’re really making yourself look like you’re just trying to shit on other /beg/s to feel better about yourself.

>>3815438
Thanks anon, I didn’t quite notice the coherency issues. Kinda have a hard time attaching the limbs correctly.

Based off the Proko video, been doing Loomis heads; large on newsprint, small on printer paper. Hopefully on the right track here.

>>3815456
Use it to draw real people.

>>3815446
Nice mind-reading there. That guy literally hasn't improved in several months. Either he doesn't listen to any criticism, he has dementia, or he's just shitposting.

a...am i getting better /ic ?

>>3815456
Pretty solid. Try other angles like side view and 3/4 view as well. If you can get these right your good to move on.

>>3815493
how would I know?

>>3815493
Kinda muddy with the linework and shading of the body. Post again when you finish this.

Can’t spot major anatomy or perspective issues so far.
Hair is nice though.

So I'm currently going through drawabox's plant homework and I was wondering what are some good plant species to use as reference?

I've already drawn a full page of yuccas.

>>3815463
Doing the ''ideal'' head at different angles first before matching them with real life models

>>3815495
I already did 50 3/4 ones and will do profile and extreme angles after this. Good to know I'm on the right track, thanks.

Any Featback on this would be appreciated.

>>3815503
Not a plant, but mushrooms.

>>3815542 Wups Forgot to DownScale it Here you go

>>3815548
freaky

>>3815354
big fat balloon lips
eyes dont look like spheres
eyebrows look painted on
ear misplaced
philtrum out of place

What books should I be reading to study anatomy?

>>3815581
Zarins' Anatomy for Sculptors is nice since it's got a bunch of nice diagrams

>>3815581
Something to look at that has diagrams and help make sense of Bridgman.

>>3815502
thanks anon

>>3815548
Are you going for a horror look for this Anon? Could you elaborate what your goal was?

Anons, I need help

I've been rendering the skin for the whole day now and something feels missing

Please help me

Why couldn't I have been born with talent?

>>3815595
Here's the anon from the old thread, sup! I learned that, putting a second layer with sharper, darker shadows on top of the first shadow layer really helps to give the whole image some depth. Do this in areas that are especially "deep", eG the armpits. Also, make sure your shadow is colored, not only a gray version of the skin. Assuming your character is standing in warm light, you should make it more purple-ish. Looks great though, love the eyes!

>>3815600
Because nobody is, it's dedication and hard work. Stop whining and start drawing. I know "Just draw" is a meme, but it actually works. Just do it.

>>3815292
That picture is not /beg/ tier.

>>3815595
Whole thing is fucked, this belongs in those “artworks that fall apart” threads. I suggest starting over.

>>3815602
I want to make the skin seem soft, so I'm limiting the amount of dark tones I'm using

Also, sup senpai

>>3815613
Tear it apart bit by bit. I can take it

What exactly is fucked? What can be done to remedy it?

>>3815592
Well Yes i was going for a Creepy look for her But ultimatly it was a Valuse studie From a Ref. She has the Black eyes in the ref and is in a Dark room.

>>3815547
That's not a bad idea but I would prefer something that has leaves and branches for the moment.

Just started the Watts online course and I really like the structure.

>>3815622
Birch is easily identifiable. Ash, alder, oaks. Japanese maple. Datura. It's a really open ended question.

>>3815603
You're lying.

>>3815431
Torso looks like it is a foot behind the hip when it should be in front of it or above it. Try to draw the spine from the torso to the bowl shape of the hips

>>3815595
I don't think rendering is the issue. Its your lack of forms on the back and the arm. The arm looks like it is sideways when really the upper arm should be overlapping the lower arm . as in- if you drew a cylinder for the upper arm coming towards the viewer it would slightly obscure and cover some of the lower arm around the joint. Hope that makes sense. Great render though

>>3815484
>several months
Are you new?

>>3815650
No he is not.

>>3815616
Do the legs.

>>3815650
NGMI

how do I render in photoshop?
Also, a friend says his face is too cute how do I make him more rugged?

>Start the Jeff Watts fundamentals course
>Watts is just reading for you

>>3815747
Is there a man more based than Jeff Watts?

>>3815745
You learn to paint. All that time shading pencil sketches should come in handy right now. Make a multiply layer and mess around with different shadow colors.

>>3815745
smaller eyes and a "less puffy" mouth would do the trick i think

>>3815745
His eyes are hella feminine

gotta keep drawing

>>3815617
>>3815548
Horror is a difficult subject Anon. If you want to make it creepy you'll need to be able to make it inhuman but still passing as a human or look like corpse even.

I drew this from memory. I know the head is huge, I tend to always draw giant heads and small bodies. How do I change that! What did I get wrong in this pose?

Does someone knows where I can download "How to Draw" by Scott Robertson with high quality scans? The link from /ic/ I found mega has already deleted it.

>>3815745
Sharper angles will fix that.

>>3815745
Don't listen to faggots, leave the Steve Buscemi eyes.

>>3815772
Got a blog?

>>3815778
No, sorry. Should I get one?

>>3815765
not that anon, but it think you ruined it, in your picture theme is completely different and those extra details stick out too much

Had a cute Alice cosplay ref photo that I saved a while back on my pc so I decided to draw it.
Got a bit lazy on the lower half of her dress and i also think i screwed the hatching on her arms, probably did it too fast and inconsistent.

>>3815761
am I going in the right direction?

>>3815797
yup

What do you think?

I can't seem to draw with charcoal. Every time I try I get the same feeling when someone scratches a blackboard, a coarse feeling, I feel it on my entire body. I tried soft, medium and hard charcoal pens. Should I switch to another brand or paper?
Any advice? Or am I forced to draw with Graphite

>>3815785
You are probably right it, I just wanted to make it look scarier. It is a pretty shoddy job I admit.

>>3815772
I tried to balance and reproportion

Shoulder balance, trapezius height (typically much smaller on a woman unless she lifts), arm placement (especially the arm that gets hidden behind her chest), leg size, leg/hip insertion points (especially the leg that faces us)

>>3815772
>I know the head is huge, I tend to always draw giant heads and small bodies. How do I change that!
by planning the whole body in advance and checking your proportions before you go into the details. Just be a bit more mindful with your workflow and it should be fine, stop an measure all the proportions. A good idea is to get up and take a quick break clear your head and come back afterwards that can give your mind a fresh look on our work.

gotta draw shibuya rin quick sketch

>>3815818
Fear is in the imagination. Keep the darkness, light up the eyes- those are usually pretty scary. Having it look almost human with one or two obvious or subtle differences is a good way to go. Like extra long arms or an open mouth in the neck (where some hospital patience have a hole there from some operation usually caused by smoking.) Things like that can help the creep factor. Your update with details is alright, but the bugs are hard to make out and the lips are too solid. Remember when doing dark colors it's mostly about using shadow instead of hard lines. Smooth out those veiny arms and maybe use less thick shadows for her face. If she's a corpse she's not going to have much color difference.
Also try doing her pose, it's kind of uncomfortable opening your mouth like that. But that's no big deal, just me thinking of things. Maybe add more bugs, one crawling on the bed getting close to the camera to show perspective and depth like she's right in your face.
Hope this helps.

>>3815830
>>3815764
Why do you keep coming BACK?

>>3815821
>>3815824
Thank you for this, it's really encouraging! I'll plan more and continue to do studies.

>>3815831
>>3815548
This. It's the uncanny Valley effect that makes good designs of humanoid horror crratures
Pretty well done though, you managed to capture the MV's atmosphere quite well

>>3815745
Try cross-hatch shading. It can make stuff look super dark and rugged.

>>3815797
okay so this is the stage I always get stuck on
how do I keep going to give it a more polished look?

>>3815857
Usually combining bormal and cross hatch shading like this is a good idea.

i just wanna caricature properly but i feel like it always isnt that great

>>3815864
Collapse and make a new layer, pulling color from what you have. Or just put on some filters and call it a day if it doesn't need a background

>>3815834
to draw

>>3815378
I like it

well, this is my first digital drawing so I might as well post it here. Took 56 hours, mostly learning how how use the tools and techniques and all that. I know the scales are a little iffy and the fingers are a little butter, but I felt as if those were not the center of the whole thing

>>3815644
Thanks a lot!

how would i put these together

>>3815493
worked a bit on the shading of the body. obs not even close to finish but i think the body looks a bit better

>>3815812
I like the colours and style.
it would look even better if the arm cloth wrinkles were as neat as the ones on the hood.

>>3815765
Yeah i Agree this is too much. It is supost to me Creepy but not a monster so i think you whent overbord.

>>3815831 I love how you are Helping someone who was trying to help me with doing an overdrawing on my Drawing. if that makes sense.

>>3815952
Blog?

>>3815952
>floppy boobs
I like it, very good

>>3815855 Thanks I liked her from the MV. so I drew her.

>>3815933

Thanks you very much for the advice , I will work on those wrinkles

>>3815912
keep going but please stop the lazy hands, it's only going to hinder you going forward

>>3815904
I just named things I like drawing. The point is learn your trees and then bushes and plants. Trees are easily identifiable from different distances and the rest are just interesting.

I simply cant draw my fucking hands.
I am reading keys to drawing and it tells me to draw my hand in this awkward position, but I simply cant draw my hand. How do you do it? Do you draw the outer most lines and make a contour of the whole hand? Or do you draw a line and then the next line, and the next,and the next until the drawing is complete?

>pic is the book example

What am I doing wrong anons?

>>3816000
not resizing and glow that doesnt match the shadows

Should I torrent the full Schoolism course? Worth it?

>>3815997
>Or do you draw a line and then the next line, and the next,and the next until the drawing is complete?
This. Eventually you'll just figure out the best way to do it.

Some five minute / imagination gestures. I'm struggling with adding more "flow" to the gestures as Vilppu says. Not too sure if I'm incorporating his advice properly. Anyways I would really appreciate critique!

>>3815559
okay i addressed all of those except the ear. i cant tell thats its misplaced, should it sit higher? also i fixed a couple other little mistakes like making the shoulder larger and showing how the hair falls behind her neck

the sticky recommends doing upside down drawings, grid drawing, traced drawing and negative space drawing.
How much should I do these before going to the nex step?

i feel something is wrong with it but i dont know what. this is something i just threw together but even if i put in a lot of effort it always sucks the same way. ill post ref in a sec. thx for any help.

ref for previous.

>>3816056
You should do them until you can not stop doing them.

>>3815812
a handy tip anon: the selection tool is your friend
create your shape, paint in and enjoy your crisp smooth lines
I do like colour choices tho but work on making that coat less muddy

Rendering anime In semi realistic style takes forever Holy crap, I think I'll go back to pen and paper. I spent 3 days trying to paint a big illustration I scanned and I didn't even finish one face they just looked uncanny
Or ill go back to painting 2d style, mad respect for Sakimichan this shit takes training.

>>3815292
lol

Fundies are the important thing that every artist should learn, if you pretend to make it by just drawing anines you will fail.

>>3816061
feeling isn't necessary anon. look at your ref and look at your image.
I imagine you spend too much time drawing and not looking. You know you're drawing an eye and it's rough location and rough appearance (very important here - rough). Draw a line, re-examine your ref. Start light, readjust lines til they're better before you move on.
Keep it up friend. I recommend reading Keys to Drawing. Just a read, it has some important knowledge that with someone who has spent a good amount of time drawing already, if thought about, can make a real almost immediate difference.

>tfw it takes me 3x longer then any other artist to make something
fuck how do i increase my piece
also here's a WIP plz break it apart

>>3816258
shit sorry forgot about the under 1000 pixels rule

I failed you, Loomis. But there HAS to exist someone like this, right?

>>3816265
Aside for more loomis for anatomy. You need to work on your shading, particularly on hard and soft shading as your current wip is on borderline pillow-shading.

>>3815772
Don’t draw the head first. Draw the head shape then do a line of action for the body. Build the body and face from there. Keep checking back to make sure it’s proportional.

How do you know if you have an art style?

>>3816408
It happens once you’ve learnt some things, normally a year or two in at minimum.

>>3815292
Any crit d00ds?

>>3816436
Those hands need work and her pose is stiff. I also think the composition itself is a little boring, desu.

>>3816436
Blog?

>>3816436
spend some serious time on hands, please for the love of all that is good

>>3816436
I don't get it. The hands are passable, if anything. What needs work is that shitty brushwork you're trying to pull off. As well as the ugly ass colors that could be significantly more appealing.

>>3815368

really nice style

>>3816453
I hope you get better.

>>3816436
I like it, but the lighting is inconsistent. Replace the daylight shed looking bit in the top right with something darker and more on theme.

>>3816453

forgot to resize

>>3816460

does this look like a sith mask/helmet?

>>3816461

I know her face and shading looks awful, I did it just because I liked the ref

>>3816456
thanks

>>3816464
oops

How do you get better at using color?

gotta keep drawing gonna draw more shibuya rin for the begginers any power for the drawing powers?

>>3816486
Why must you plague us

>>3816486
Can you do some tutorials on drawing Shibuya Rin? Optimal colors too since you did good there.

>>3816441
Thanks! :3

>>3816451
Hahaha that bad huh? Thanks for the crit :3

>>3816452
Any good source or direction for that? I want to quickly improve and fix the mistakes I'm making. Thanks for the feedback :3

>>3816486
Why do you come here?

>>3816486
>rin_39
h-have you made 38 of these?
w-why...?

How can you tell if you're getting better at art?

>>3816509
You draw more than once.

>>3816033
honestly no point in practicing anatomy if you don't understand blocking-in
watch some Istebrak, Ctrl Paint then go to study anatomy
no point in learning muscles and proportions if you can't make forms yet

>>3816289
do you have any recommended resources?

>>3816510
What?

>>3816508
yes i have drawn 39 shibuya rins three unfinished psd though

>>3816509
you don't draw at all but just post on /ic/
it really helps with muscle memory

>>3816518
>>3816510
Can I have a non-meme answer?

>>3816526
Your art looks better

>>3816526
You tell yourself you're getting better.

>>3816511
youre referencing the shoulders and neck right?

>spending my nights staring at a blank canvas, not drawing, while contemplating slashing my neck with a box cutter
>haven't drawn shit in a week
>don't have the autistic obsession required to git gud
How did the old masters do it?

>>3816536
They just drew. And if they didn't. They would get their asses handed to them by their masters.

>>3816537
I don't have a master or a mentor

>>3816536
does it really matter how they did it?
there's no secret technique that makes you good the only thing thats gonna make you good is yourself
so either decide to drop the boxcutter and pick up a brush or just kill yourself (pro tip: dont use a boxcutter unless you're 100% sure that you know how to hit the jugular and that no one will find you until you're fully dead also it'll prob be painful af takes a lot of balls to do so try a excape bag, ODing or a gun

>>3816486
why

>>3816537
Does this work?

>>3816545
fuck no unless you're obsessive about it and talented like Kim Jung Gi

>>3816540
I follow a lot of artists on twitter.
A lot of them are complete normies, but so good at art it physically pains me to look at it.
How did they achieve it?

>>3816546
Why would you need to be obsessive in order to be good at art?

Go to a drawthread and do someone a favor, make their request - usually you can find at least one thing you would enjoy drawing.

Then do it. Don't play games, don't go bullshit on youtube or stare at netflix. Focus, turn on some music related if you want - and draw/paint, whatever.

I do commissions every waking hour I'm not exercising, eating, or sleeping. My vice was endless vidya, I never stopped playing games. I quit my constant vidya and it feels good honestly. I stopped feeling much of an urge a few weeks in and realized I loved just drawing and improving myself.

My advice at least. Just go man, do it.

>>3816545
Clearly. The renaissance was filled with many great artists to the point it was the norm. Art was a craft, a skill and a job. If you needed something done, you call up the artists and they would get whatever it is you needed done. They trained and persisted because learning was crucial unless you wanted to be out on the streets.

>>3816548
>Why would you need near fanatical autism to be good at something that requires a higher level of focus on detail than 90% of professions on the planet?

>>3816555
Animation, paintings, or sketches don't require that amount of detail or knowledge though.

>>3816560
Just fucking kill yourself philistine.

>>3816555
>he thinks other professions don't require a level of focus on detail

>>3816561
Why would any of those require effort?

>>3816555
mate you're really putting making pretty pictures up there with shit like heart surgery and being a astronaut
i said it requires obsessiveness because it's a fucking tedious pursuit and requires a lot of patience
you don't need to be Mr. Miyagi levels of fucking zen focus to make a picture lol

>>3816585
You do to make a great picture.

>>3816547
because they realize that if they spent there whole life teetering between suicide and doing something then that's not a life worth living.
im not gonna be your personal fucking cheerleader so you pick up a pen
either do what you want
kill yourself or paint i don't care that much but i do hope i get to see your work outside of /ic/
now i've got to get back to work

>>3816632
how to obtain your drawing powers

>>3816637
>>3816555

>>3816639
never reply to me again bastard

Where can one find good skeletal cages? I can't find shit.

>>3816641
stop drawing these

>>3816646
Not him but why?

>>3816646
but i gotta keep drawing

>>3816653
Stop drawing.

I EAT MORE CHICKEN THAN ANY MAN EVER SEEN YEAH YEAH YOU ASSHOLES

>>3816280
Ended up being a royal fuck up but I was liking so into the /beg/ it goes

>>3816666
whats it like being good at art?

>>3816486
I can’t tell wther this is bait or not.
Are you actually here to improve and are looking for criticism? If not >>/i/ might just be the right noard for your.

>>3816436
>>3816265
>>3816258
>>3815912
>>3815812
>>3815952
None of you are /beg/s. Why are you even in this thread? Are you trying to make fun of us?

>>3816678
99% of artists are narcissistic cunts, so yes.

>>3816678
What exactly is above beg level? Everything that solid anatomy, gesture and perspective?

>>3816681
Yes.
When you can complete works that aren't putrid shit to other people, you are no longer /beg/

>>3816677
>If not >>/i/ might just be the right noard for your.
Are you okay?

>>3816678
I consider myself to be not good enough to be in any other threads I think many artists are their own worst critics I also believe it's hard to see the flaws in your work that others can see easily. Hence why I choose to post in beg

>>3816681
>>3816685(Me)
Let me rephrase that.
Getting out of beg means your art no longer has obvious mistakes that are easily detectable by the layman.
If someone who hasn't invested a huge amount of time into art says "i can't see anything wrong with it", you're out of beg.

>>3816671
Quads =/= skill. I'll be good in a year, or tomorrow who knows

>>3816695
K then. Maybe I should actually finish a drawing sometime and put it to the test.

Is there a secret to rendering better? I feel like I'm just missing all the details that make things look like things.

>>3816062
>>3816061
When critiquing work based on a reference, try looking at a singular feature and then seeing where it is compared to rest pf the object and how big it is.
For instance, look at the eyes. Are they as big as in the reference? Are they positioned in the right place?

>>3815378
hate it

>>3815378
It's not a white male that I can self insert into, or a pretty anime girl drawn in a conventionally appealing artstyle that I can jack off to, so I'm sorry to say that I hate it.

>>3816678
>Tfw when I first went into a /beg/ thread I saw a Anon post a image then get told that he was passed /beg/tier and he could "graduate" I promised myself I'd stick to /beg/ till a Anon says I'm good enough to leave
That was about a year ago
Feels good man

>>3816714
Sharper lines at the front.

All of your lines are fuzzy and out of focus. The closer something is to the viewer, the more detail it has. So the 3 trees in the front should all have crisp outlines and finer details, as well as the tent. Some of the snow should have more detail and sharper edges as well.

Leaving the background as is will provide seriously good contrast if you can make the front items pop out more.

>>3816714
If you are tying to be a bit more realistic make things less flat. The trees are one example. None of the branches are towards or away from the viewer. The foreground needs more depth as well. However, if all the above is the style you want to convey, I think the rendering is fine.

>>3816000
Read up on perspective.

>>3815354
>>3816033
Stop shitposting

>>3816678
Nice try, but only nosebro is allowed to tell people to leave

>>3816734
Post image from a year ago.

>>3816762
I believe it was this picture

>>3816763
Oof, 3x10 toriyama head studies 3 times a week please.

>>3816764
Yeah don't read the previous post.

>>3816678
Thx anon i'm >>3815912
>>3816734
same here man. Getting told you r not beg tier anymore feels good. I consider myself still beg tho. I also started with digital late 2018 so i'm pretty new.

>>3816686
>>3816677
As someone that's new here and new to drawing in the hopes of getting better, what's the difference between /i/ and /ic/? /i/ looks like it has a lot more original content but it seems to mostly be shitscribbles. What's up with that?

>>3816855
/i/ has a drawing app included

>>3816855
/i/ is for people who enjoy art

>>3816995
>>3781215

>>3815292
Second time trying digital painting.

When I was a kid, I used to draw all the time, just for fun. Eventually I got pretty good at drawing super heroes and monsters. My favorite thing to draw though was obviously the female form.

Well, I haven't drawn in over 15 years and just recently I picked up some pencils and paper and I started doodling. I feel like I'm starting from square one. This is certainly NOT like riding a bike.

My current plan is to just draw characters and do exercises out of "how to draw" books every day. It doesn't matter if they're good or bad. I just want to do it every day.

>>3817036
You should learn the fundamentals.

>>3817036
Read the sticky and get acquainted with loomis

>>3817037
>>3817038
Hopefully that's what these "how to draw" books will teach me. I can tell I lack perspective and depth in the stuff.
I'm going to try and remind myself that my goal isn't wholely to get good, but to have fun and be consistent. Drawing was something that I got true joy out of when I was younger, and I feel like I squandered it for stupid reasons.

>>3815292
Should I go overhand or tripod when working on a completely flat surface or does it even matter?

>>3817069
Just go with whichever you feel most comfortable

There's no hard instruction on something so basic as holding a pen/cil

>>3816678
I really feel like a beg at this, i am still learning how to draw faces in different angles and drawing hands for me is a nightmare. I just want some feedback to improve.

>>3815885
That golden tones and the fabric rendering is nice, but you should practice more on your skin tones and hair and how light affect them

>>3816098
Thanks you Anon, I will use the selection tool more in my next drawing. I really appreciate this kind of feedback

>>3817036
https://archive.org/details/PerspectiveMadeEasy

>>3817034
Maybe your a beginner at digital but definitely not a /beg/

Is there a difference between the Conte 1710 B gold and the 1710 without gold?

Quick sketch, I tried to draw the old style animu's bang

>>3817116
Not /beg/
Get out

>>3816678
We should make a tier list and anyone above a certain tier should be banned from posting in these threads unless it's to crit and redline

>>3817117
But I want to be here. Why?

>>3817076
Alright. Thank you for the response.

What do you do when your practice doesn't look appealing?

>>3817186
Study art that you think is appealing and practice more

>>3817186
Try harder.

I gotta go sleep for work so I'm gonna leave this here and come back to the comments later

Be as ruthless as you like, just be constructive :>

>>3817201
not /beg/

D-did I actually graduate from /beg/?
Holy shit anon can I hug you? No homo tho

>>3817201
pillowy shadows don't hide anatomy errors, like her entire back being a huge lump of flesh with no definition of any kind

I cant finish anything

>>3817212
so start finishing things

>>3817211
Just the comment I'm looking for!

I'll take note of that. Should I add another layer of shadow for her back or do I soft erase the existing one? Not sure where to go from here

>>3815864
Has he never been in a fight? Where are his scars?

>>3817034
Are your legs better now.

>>3817209
which one is yours if you want a second opinion
also congratz it feels good man
we're all gonna make it

>>3817209
Anon the only way to truly graduate from /beg/ status is to stop coming here.

>>3817240
>not graduating /beg/ then going back to teach there along with other well established teachers

I have big problem with drawing face it always looks like shit. Do you have a good way to learn how to draw faces?

>>3817291
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2T7cDY7YDsg

>>3817034
give some (you)s plz

>>3817121
>>3817116
frick of faget you gonna bully us

>>3817215
Not him but I'd start over, her arm is also fucked

Learning Loomis

>>3817360
nice looks bretty good keep studying

>>3815368
More

>>3815292
Why do I draw?
What do I like about doing art?

Once just drew to get better at it. But at a certain moment the frustration became so great I had to stop wanting to "draw well" and to just draw how and what i want
The problem is that I no longer have a reason to pick up a pencil anymore. Before I could always say that I'll improve, that I'll be more confident, faster, or at least with more experience. But now, I ask myself, why do I draw?
I do not have any OCs, stories to tell, interest in particular thing to illustrate (people, animals, objects, imagination, real rife, nothing), and to me drawing has became "just another thing to do"

What pushes me forward? idk

New fag ultra giga /beg/ here. I'm 170 pages into drawing on the right side of the brain, but i've been trying to convert all the excercises to a digital format and i'm not sure if its gonna translate well enough for me to properly learn things.

Stick with it or bite the bullet?

All the viewfinder/hold up a pencil stuff in the perspective section is proving incredibly difficult.

Sidenote I just want to draw cute cartoony things. How to stay motivated drawing ceilings and ikea chairs.

>>3817377
You should just draw cute cartoony things. Fundamentals are a meme.

>>3817385
fuck off.

>>3817401
Cope

>>3817360
That's the shit Anon! Keep it up!

FUCK, I DON'T WANT TO WATCH OR READ ANY TUTORIALS, BUT I WANT TO GET BETTER!

>>3817437
Then draw.

>>3815595
nips

>>3816453
What are you referencing for the muscles of the face? Im working on that now but I have the 'tism and find videos easier to study from than books.

>>3817239
Please do anon I can never get enough for critiques and (you)s

>>3817201 is my duwang

>>3817291
Look at some cute asian faces while drawing desu

How do I git gud at digital colouring? What kind of brushes should I use? How did I manage to get that nice dusty look on these colours? Why is it easier to make simple and stylised characters like this look decent compared to more detailed stuff?

Using Krita if it matters.

>>3817592
Digital brushes don't mean shit if you can't figure your way with a simple pen tool. Brushes are there to make life easier by replicating patterns in a stroke ie dab leaves on a tree instead of individually dotting it with brush.

Simple art can look good because there's not a lot that can go wrong. But simple art can become boring quick.

What I recommend is to do the loomis meme and ask for help in >>/beg/ after you grasped the basics

Posting this sketch again for second opinions, I got a better scanner and the scan quality is way better than the other scan.

>>3817655
Again, here is the ref.

>>3817494
it's passed /beg/ tier
welcome to /limbo/ tier where you're too shit to post in the /draw/ threads without losing confidence and too prideful to go back to /beg/

>>3817688
Bold of you to assume that I have any pride in my work

I have inferiority issues anon and I will be afflicted by the terminal illness of the artists' curse as long as I live

Doesn't matter if I graduate from /beg/, you betcha ass I will keep coming here as an alumni if I have to

>>3817703
The textured areas look really nice

>>3817720
T-thanks y-you too

Why does drawing have to be so depressing?

>>3817745
The emotions you have while struggling is what helps you grow quicker.

>>3817745
Because it drives you to do better and better. You will never be satisfied because the higher you reach for the cookie jar on the shelf, the taller the shelf grows

It's way better than >>3817515 and being forever stuck on proto-/beg/ level

Should I use rule while I study Loomis(figure drawing for all its worth) or it's better to get used to take proportions with the eyes?

>>3817782
ruler*

>>3817782
Use the ruler when you have to, but don't rely on it too much that it becomes a crutch

>>3817782
Unless you need it to map out the perspective, I don't really recommend using a ruler as it will slow you down. Use your pencil/pen/fingers/thumb as a guide to measuring the proportions. As you keep drawing you will start to get a feel of how the long/short/big/small proportions should be. Until you get to deal foreshortening that fucks with you.

>>3817818
>>3817815
Thanks, guys.

if my art's looked the same digitally for 3 years, am i doing something wrong or do i just suck and should give up? this is the only "skill" i think i have and i dont want this to goto waste because of my incompetence and procrastination
pic, related.

How can I make these arms less stiff before I go any further

>>3815952
tried and failed to help you, ended up just tracing, the issue is the body doesnt work with the clothing and armor.

>>3817116
leave beg you low self esteem fag

Hey /beg/
What are some of the best places to start for learning digital painting. Ive never been good with realism so I'd like to learn

Can someone please explain the head construction in chapter 7 of Figure Drawing for Artists by Steve Huston or am I a brainlet who cannot understand this at all

>>3817116
Before you leave, what's your blog?

Today I was creatively bankrupt, drawing muscle men is as low as I sink. BUT I loved my throwing knives pose

>>3815292
Critique if ya can my dudes

>>3818130
What do you not understand about it?

>>3817655
Looks short.

>>3818178
Low effort comfort zone symbol.

>>3818130
>>3817292

>>3818178
You know one arm is longer. Don't make me do this anon.

>>3818214
Oh shoot heck I didn't notice I'll fix it when I can

I've been reading through Steve Huston's "Figure Drawing for Artists" and I am on Chapter 6, "The Human Body: An Overview of Basic Forms" and I feel like suddenly it's gotten WAY too fucking fast.

Maybe I'm just retarded or something. These books are so confusing, it's impossible to put the words to practice because it's so cryptic and I have to re-read paragraphs over and over again to identify how it relates to drawings next to those paragraphs.

Has anyone else had success with this book?

>>3815354
It would help you to do some form studies because it seems like you don't understand light and form at all. You're still stuck copying in flatmode.

>>3815772
Draw the head last.

>>3818228
Slow down.

>Has anyone else had success with this book?
It's been a while, remembering liking it. It's on my to read again list.

Anyone got any advice on not making any chicken scratchy crap? I've stopped doing traditional in almost an entire year and holy fuck my rendering is ass and my work is so messy.

my two questions are, how bad is this? and so its not practical to paint the sticthing with gouache paint, could i go over it with oils. i have a set of oil paints but ive never used them because i just bought them

please help, i hate it ;-;

Anything bad that stands out before I begin the final line art?
Also should i crop the image for better composition or leave it full?

Someone tell me why I shouldn't just buy a surface pro and use that? I need a new laptop anyway

I get it, pen jitter but I didn't notice it when I tried in store. But outside of that all I see is "you have to learn the program so don't use digital first".

I used sketchbook pro in the shop and it seemed very simple: you have pens, you can edit them so they make different shapes.

So how retarded is it, if at all, to just go digital right away since I'd rather that, save everythin I've done instead of scanning several hundred pages from when I'm learning to measure progress

>>3818182
I do not understand how to put the planes of the face in a three/fourths view

Any tips on doing hair? Any guides or reference books for different styles?

Really struggling with visualising how it actually sits on peoples heads.

I'd take my 12 year old selfs 'anime' style hair over this shit.

>>3818485
leave beg

>>3818485
The red in the ears makes it seem like light is shining through them from behind, yet the background and the rest of the figure is completely dark and cold. Additionally, the light on the face/ teeth is coming from the left, which isn't working with the ear-thingy. I'd chose the light from behind as it makes the whole thing look more interesting. Bring more warm/ cold contrast into your work!

>>3815295
Didn’t get the angle of his feet right. Sigh

>>3818708
Very cool.

>>3818664
>Really struggling with visualising how it actually sits on peoples heads.
Hair is not going to fix this. Your head drawing is weak af.

>>3818872
>>3818708
not /beg/s

first time drawing with a brush...still need time to get the hang of it..

>>3817485

Loomis, drawing the head and hands

>>3818881
>>3818043
>>3817117
>>3817332
>hurr durr people are better than me and are therefor not allowed to ask for criticism
Fuck off, who cares is this thread is titled "beginner thread", the purpose of it is stopping people from creating a new thread for every single thing they draw. Everyone is allowed to ask for criticism

>>3815431
>>3815432
Returning with more. I think I shouldn’t let the ribcage become smaller than their heads, that really screwed with the proportions as the limbs weren’t proportional to the smaller torso. I think.

>>3818931

>>3818929
The thing is they belong in the other draw threads where they can get much better criticism because this is for /beg/s and most /beg/s are naturally not good at criticizing art.

>>3818664
Ignore hair and facial features for now if you want to focus on improving, get the head itself right first.

>>3818939

>>3818940

Been studying human anatomy for a while now. I think I got the skeleton down.

I got to the part where I draw my eyes in Keys to Drawing
Am I doing it right?

>>3818883
>first time
>this good at edges already
The fuck?

>>3818980
Impressive. There's some fuckery going on in the 3/4 view one, especially with the hands.

Will rotating the canvas hurt me in the long run? Or it's better to learn drawing lines from every angle?
Pic related, left is without rotation. Notice the bottom line is the only decent line.

>>3819092
Depends if you only wanna be good at drawing at one angle.

>>3819092
Depends if you want to rotate the canvas every single time you draw. Pro tip: Makes your streams and videos on youtube spasm if that's a future you're headed for.

Latest sketch from my notebook. The girl sitting in front of me had such a beautiful profile that I couldn't but try to capture those lines. Considering I only had a pen, so I only had one try, that my unaware model was moving quite a lot, and that I'm a complete noob that hasn't drawn portraits for the last 2-ish years, I am kind of proud of it. Anyway, I'd love if someone could help me improve pointing out my miggest mistakes.
Don't mind the text on the top, I already had some notes on that page.
The bottom caption is inspired by a song, it says something along the lines of "holy will to live, and sweet Venus of Mascara"

I am retarded

>>3819155
I get your feeling mate. There's some girl on the bus with the most beautiful profile I've ever seen but I don't have the courage to whip out my notebook and draw her.

>>3819092
Rotate the canvas. It is better for you. Just from doing more drawing more and more you won't have to rotate the canvas as much

What's more important? Feeling the form or accurately 1:1 copying what you see?

drew this today, it's meh at best. i'm trying to get the hang of the shapes thing before i try to get into figure/etc drawing.

also would anyone have any good suggestions for landscape/environmental drawing?

>>3819204
The latter.

>>3819188
You kinda just have to be sneaky enough not to be noticed by her. Don't mind people around you, they won't care. Seize the moment!

Is drawabox a meme? I don't wanna waste my pretty limited time if it's a waste

>>3819220
Just draw.
Unironically.

>>3818939
>>3818940
Hey thanks for these. Flipping through the pages and pdfs constantly was becoming a pain. I still will though but it'll be handy to have these on hand. Don't know why I didn't think of it.

>>3818980
You must have a very high amount of patience. The ribs alone make me anxious while drawing skeletons.

So I'm going to pick up this book by the end of the week and want to ask on how exactly to use this book. I heard its a must have for any artist's library but I also heard its a bit of a trap for beginners. I mainly want to create comics and characters so I hope this will help with that.

>>3819312
Draw a lot. Read a lot. Use principles in drawings when applicable. Repeat for at least three months.

my 7th attempt at drawing something based off a reference. Fuck this looks bad

>>3818664
So I feel like I did better at following the Loomis method and making stronger heads but I also know I'm a retard that often thinks he's taking in information when really I'm just repeating the same mistakes.

I'm probably going to go ahead and do 50 more of these and try change up the shape every now and then.

Also I know I chicken scratch a lot but I've gotten to the point that I only really do it during the sketching phase. So I'm improving on that at least.

Trying to render materials from imagination. Cloth and hair are tough.

>>3818471
please /ic/

>>3819509
While I can't comment on your technical skill (i'm /beg/ as fuck) I do have to say that that is some comfy shit.

>>3819380
So while I work on these heads I've also been doing requests for bug people over on /tg/.

How do I get good colouring and is hatching easymode to making something look nice?

This also took me like 4 hours from asking the guy what he wanted, working with him on the design, inking and finally colouring.

Reference from oji san book

>>3819542
ty. Yeah this was a real reach for me. I have a list of 30 fuckin things I'd do differently. Which I guess is the way to wizardry.

>>3818471
1:not bad. Brush strokes make the local color a little chaotic. But plenty of styles do this. Shadow looks a little low in relation to the front shoe. Kinda makes it look like it's floating.2:I've found it's not wise to try and 'fix' things so much as start from a good place to begin with. Especially adding detail or some shit just makes things busier. And the main draw(for me) for stuff like this is its simplicity. That said use your fucking oils.Waste them even. Theyre worth more to you as a shitty painting to learn from than rotting in their tubes.

How do I do a nsfw study

>>3819613
>Open fap archive
>Remove hand from dick
>Draw

What are the fundamentals needed to do drawing? How do I work at perspective?

>>3819620
Read loomis

>>3819618
Draw what

>>3819623
Defiantly not titties or dicks. That would be lewd

>>3819623
tiddies

>>3816666
Arm on the guy punching extends too far, and the arms on the other are too stiff and short as well.
Look up some reference for action poses, those may help with a more natural looking pose for him.

>>3819626
>>3819625
Is that how I study anatomy

Help me out Anons, don’t know what to do. Am reading both perspective made easy and keys to drawing, but I’m not sure I am either following the correct book for fundies or just am being a lazy fuck. Also, can hardly enjoy just drawing still objects, had far more fun imitating loomis girls (Drew pic related). What do?

Does anyone have good references for feet studies

I think I went over pixel count, hard to tell on tablet. This should be smaller.

Today was a stupidly productive day, I hope this thread stays alive a bit longer. First off, can I still salvage this drawing? I think the coloring looks too amateurish. It's supposed to have fire and a metallic armor stuff but I mostly laid down flat colors as if it was Photoshop.
Also if you have any critique I welcome it, I didn't notice any flaw and that's bad

>>3819219
Is this bait or should I just do it?

>>3819548
I love them. They're adorable.

I was merely taking notes but then I decided I should fill the page. It turned out better than Expected , please criticize it. I'm mostly inspired by that one thread about Shinichiro Sakamoto with the realistic vampires, I wanna be like that

>>3816108
Damn that's pretty damn good. Source on artist anon?

>>3817703
You're much welcome in /a/'s drawthread. Please do come and help out, the WWD has been utter shit due to lack of drawfags.

R8 me, just starting in oils, no previous art ed.

Tax return came in, any good scanner recommendations? Preferably 11 x 14 size for scanning.

Now moving to add triceps

>>3820159

Hello /beg/, it's me again, same anon who did the drawing of the thumbnail of >>3808582
How much did i improve? Any suggestions?

>>3820178
you need more contrast

>>3820180
How would i add contrast in this case? i'm willing to mess a bit with the drawing

>>3820178
Everything looks really flat. Like >>3820180 said, more contrast in terms of shadows and more prominent highlights are needed

Not exactly identical to what you drew, but should give you some idea as to how to proceed

>>3820186
>everything looks really flat
Yes! i was feeling this too, but i didn't know how to fix it..i'll try to add some contrast and such.

>>3820178
Mega comfy and shows definite signs of improvement.

The fireplace/chimney looks a bit flat.

The detailing on the log is excellent though. Obvious what it is and has a really comfy style. Honestly I can almost feel the texture of it on my skin if I think about rubbing it. Good stuff.

>>3820178
The logs under the left window are supposed to go down straight in 1 point perspective, the right window is lower than the one on the left and the inside of the chimney and the right side of it aren't correct in perspective, same for the left side of the couch.
Also you can probably use the brightness, contrast tool in whichever program you're using for a quick fix.
Comfy image btw

>>3820189
PERSPECTIVE

made some changes

We are almost at bottom, made new thread .

>>3820344