/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>3808582
ref01

>>3808584
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>>3808582

I've been aimlessly drawing since 2014-2016 or so, haven't really had a desire to get serious with it, but it's practically my only hobby, I love drawing my shitty DA OCs. Have pretty much always gone by instinct. Recently I've been wanting to improve more, I love drawing my friends shit, and I get furry commission money, too. It's very nice, but I want to become satisfied with my work.

Here's a flat color I did a month ago.

>>3808618
Eyes are really bad tho the nose shows evidence of construction which is good.
If you're gonna do such a cartoony style, don't go all in with the eyes.
But really you need to study the actual structure of the eye. It's a sphere with two 3D lids surrounding it. If you look at her eyes, her upper eyelid has a very dark plane on the bottom, on a tangent to the eyeball, and then it has the brighter plane that we see as the surface of the eyelid. You've misinterpreted the bottom plane as just some weird eyelash thing
Go draw more.

butts. left imagination right ref

>>3808620
The anatomy is bad. Study some anatomy, bones and muscles. The calves and torso are esp bad, and the feet. The face is of course cartoony but it lacks reason, cartooning well requires a decent understanding of reality, in order to choose what to warp.

>tfw seeing a bunch of "beginners" post art that are tenfold better than yours.

>>3808630
Good. It means you can still grow.

>>3808584
haven't learned how to do the bottom section of a figure drawing yet, since this is my first day doing these exercises and my brain can only take in so much at once.

I gave this pose a shot, though...

>>3808629
Gotcha. Realism studies would definitely help me a lot, I think. The feet did stand out to me as pretty bad, I really dislike drawing feet in general.

>>3808635
another upper-body figure test i did, this one was without a reference. Is it time for me to move on to the lower body + full figure exercises, or am I doing some big mistakes somewhere?

>>3808620
Learn some perspective and simple forms.

>>3808639
Plenty of foot tutorials on pinterest. Proko's method is good if you make it less autistic.

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>>3808739
I like your soft shading a lot but it's all that I like. How many goddamn lines does it take to draw a side of a torso, anon: 1, 2, 5, 20? Do not confuse 'loose' with 'uncontrolled'

>>3808626
Left looks like my gf. Is it really form imagination anon? Do you wanna tell me something?

>>3808806
Tell her she needs more bridgeman

>>3808747
Yeah, i tried to be "loose" because my poses always come out looking really stiff but i was just throwing lines around. I redrew the lines with a bigger brush and modified the left arm a bit. Still can't draw hands and feet.

>>3808584

Is drawabox any good? I looks solid but the creator has beg tier art

crits welcome

>>3808781
>>3808784
Not beg desu

Keys to Drawing told me to draw a pepper
I drew a pepper
any critique would be helpful

this is my first time trying to shade something like this so please tell me if I'm doing something wrong and what I can improve on

Is Betty Edwards a meme?

>>3808967
needs a full range of value, you need darker darks and more of an establishment of mid tone
look up what a value scale is (white to black) with all of the gradients and see if your drawing has nearly all of them

>>3808640
You have zero gesture and a lot of anatomical issues. Learn big proportions first, gesture drawing, and then move on to figuring out anatomy of shoulders and pelvis. godspeed.

I wanna draw characters. Where do I begin?

>>3809030
https://archive.org/details/PerspectiveMadeEasy

Just wanna know what i can improve on heheh

>>3809065
her nose looks like dick

>>3808618
Is there a more vertical example of the right pic?

>>3809075
i don't think so, i tried to reverse search it, but only found shitton of fake social networks accounts

This looked way better when I was doing it.. I have tunnel vision I guess. I knew her arm placement was wrong but I also made it tiny,she's a T Rex

i try working on gesture and composition for this one!
But seeing words like these >>3808626 >>3808629 make me want to study anatomy lot more.
>>3808620
very cute! Can i see deviantart?

is it necessary to sketch in a Loomis head whenever I want to draw someone? as a beginner that is
I suppose it'd help with the basics, but I'm not sure

>>3809127
It's just a tool. Learn it and use it however you wish.

May have posted in the wrong thread so I'll just link here and take replies here if there are any.
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>>3809059
Can't tell if serious.

>>3809154
You could just wing it and cut off the legs when it's not working out.

>>3809124
Hi did you see the message for your post in last thread? >>3802312

>>3808781
leave beg.

Any advice? I'm especially struggling to get clean lines.

best figure drawing course / instructor for a beginner?

I've seen people recommend proko a lot, but also seen a lot of negative comments.

>>3809172
try to draw more purposefully. every mark should add something definitive to the image. the other half is just coordination & confidence which will both come just as long as you keep drawing

Imagine posting work in /beg/
Imagine posting work in /beg/ and being proud of it

So while waiting to get a new sketching pad I decided to practice with my tablet by tying to ink an older sketch. Any advice?

Using Krita if it matters. Still exploring the program, brush options and how it interacts with my tablet. It's been pretty good so far but I'm just not sure if I'm using the right tools.

>>3809185
The best is whichever works for you because they're all different. Alternatively, just draw.

>>3809193
imagine being you

>>3809191
Thanks!

>>3809193
I mean one of those times it won't be beg anymore

>>3809198
It's pretty great desu
>>3809204
>"I-I'll be better 10 years from now I s-swear.

>>3809223
10 years is a good time frame.

>>3809088
Stop every now and then to take a look at the bigger picture

>>3808967
doing the same thing as you, just finished this
spent way too much time on it, fucked up right from the early stages
not pleased with it

how do you guys map things out? I tried finding the midpoint both horizontally and vertically but it threw me off, and starting with the outline isn't always accurate

what exactly are the fundamentals? what should I study and how should I study them?

>>3809253
>what should I study and how should I study them?
Perspective. Read https://archive.org/details/PerspectiveMadeEasy

>>3809253
The science of drawing. You don't need to study them if you don't draw.

>>3809249
The keys to drawing exercises are meant to be done from life. You'll learn more drawing from life as a begginer

>>3809298
I didn't have a pepper or any fruit though

>>3808979
Thanks anon

What resource you recommend for gesture drawing?

>>3809302
Just find anything to draw from life. You'll learn more from trying to put something 3d onto a 2d surface. Figure out the basic shape of what you're drawing and improve upon that simple shape. Nothing free hand, atleast rarely, will ever be the perfect replica of what's in front of you .

>>3809249
Wow this is really good. I wish I could draw realism better. I should do it more since it’s my weakness but I always end up drawing cartoons like this here moogle. :3

What I've worked on this week.
>bardiche heads
>the start of a beard study

Trying to get a basis for my half-orc character

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>>3809359
I'm a newbie, so dont take too much credit from this, but this is really adorable. Good job on this, even as simple as it is.

>>3809196
I tried to help but honestly youre at a point where you just need to draw all the time... doesnt really matter what.. just draw draw draw and have fun

>>3809196
Draw more. A lot more

>>3809088
Is that in pencil? I’d say draw lighter, then ink the thing going over it a few times to play with different line weights and areas of light and shadows

>>3809065
In what sense?

More contrast between the lights and the dark would make it more visually interesting

>>3808887
Pay attention to anatomy, look how high her ass is and how short the torso is

>>3809365
Awh you just made my day anon thank you.

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>>3809411
Few pages from my sketchbook. Can I get a critique?
Main objective is to create stuff that is visually interesting/ looks cool. My main problem right now is turning sketches into finished works.

Sorry the images show up sideways and upside down. I’m a monkey with computers

>>3809408
learn to draw more than one face

>>3809161
Hi. yes i did!
i feel a bit hopeless drawing now ʕ ಡ ﹏ ಡ ʔ so sorry

I want to learn to draw but i don't have fun doing it. I'm fucked? Or there's a way to fix this?

>>3809561
You don't have to have fun to learn to draw.

starting sketching again ugh idk

>>3809566

sorry for the shitty quality, need help improving the basics, i have a almost there kind of grasp on the first lessons in drawabox, them being the box ones, and im just starting out, can anyone give me crit/tips on how to improve?

>>3809124
Thank you! I'd love to show it, but I'm still a bit shy. I think I'd like to get better first.
>>3809488
Don't feel hopeless! Improvement only comes by pushing forward.

>>3808584
did i do good anonkun.
i tried to draw it funny but need to sleep.
>do you see it

>>3809580
seroiusly, i really need some critique

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>>3809634
I know you're just beginning, but what the heck is this shit? None of your lines are straight at all. The yellow lines I have highlighted should be flat with the horizon and the horizon itself should ALSO BE FLAT. Also, the lines that are going straight up should be... going STRAIGHT UP. I know that the red boxes that I drew weren't really perfect either though.

Also, the box on the left just doesn't have a face-- what is even going on there? A box is made up of three sets of parallel lines, as I drew in the example at the top. All of the red lines are going the same direction, all of the green lines are going up, all of the red lines are converging at a vanishing point off screen to the left and all of the blue lines are converging to a vanishing point to the right.

Hopefully this helps.

>>3809681
i kind of fucked up and got lasy during the last bit, trust me when i say i CAN draw perfectly staright lines, i think the problem was both the state i was in at the time and the rushed moves of my line drawing. in his tutorial on perfect lines he says to GHOST, and i wasnt exactly ghosting so that was all on me. the next question i want to ask is, how should i continue from here? i mean yeah i know what i should do, learn the basics, keep drawing boxes, ect, but i want a kind of schedule like work ethic, like how long should i take on one exercise? and yes i know he says dont grind, just looking for more advice.

>>3809694
and yes i understand that "this is not a race but a journey to find who you are artistically" and these kind of things take time, but i have a very short/firm grasp on what exercises i SHOULD be practicing more in order to improve with things like character sketching and such.

im speaking of drawabox by the way.

>>3809699
>character sketching
"basic anatomy" fuck sorry

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>>3809700
I don't know why, but your posts read as if you're shitting at a level of nervous where you're just shitting your pants constantly. Are you okay, anon?

How do I fix my fuck ups (eraser marks) when drawing traditionally?

where do i go from here?

>>3809704
Draw with pen and understand the importance of each stroke you make, that way you won't ever put down shitty marks that you have to erase. I'm just kidding, don't take that advice seriously. Maybe if you draw lighter, the eraser mark won't be as dark so you won't notice it as much.
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>>3809699
I understand your feeling completely. I started 94 days ago myself and have bounced between drawabox and other books on how to draw. I feel like I have made decent progress, but I know it's difficult because you don't know what you're doing or what is going to help you.

The lines don't have to be perfectly straight, they just have to be drawn with confidence. Though, at least for your horizon line, you should use a ruler and make sure that is straight. At least from what I have gathered, drawabox is meant to help with visualizing forms and how they take up 3D space, as well as refining your "mark making", basically, being able to draw lines confidently without stuttering or fucking them up.

It took me a while of doing Drawabox to start to visual forms in 3D space and it even took me multiple days to understand how boxes work. I remember even getting really upset and almost crying because I just couldn't seem to get it, then eventually I feel like I did. Understanding the bit about the three parallel sets of lines, TRULY understanding it really seemed to help me. It took a lot of experimenting on my own as well to come to those conclusions.

I also read a lot of "Perspective Made Easy" and that might have helped me as well. Sorry if I didn't help.

>>3809704
>buy better erasers
>use harder graphite to sketch form before finishing linework
>only use enough pressure to barely see what the form is

that's all a /beg/ like me can think to admonish

>>3809703
sorry for brainlets disease but what exactly do you mean by that?

What’s wrong with this? I’m experimenting with rendering techniques (used to only use hard round brush) and am trying to incorporate more airbrush for that nice smooth rendering.

>>3809719
HEY! well would you look at that! right after you said "draw with confidence" i tried that and made this! i mean yeah its not perfect but its a start! god look at me getting excited about a fucking CUBE, but seriously thanks, ill try to be WAY more confident.

>>3809580
Use the previous boxes as a reference point for qheee you will place the next box as well as the angle of its sides. The adjacent edge should always run parallel to the previous boxes edge so that removes 1 question mark. Parallel edges of that box should also be the same angle. So that removes those question marks. One thing that is hard about this drill is that although you might know the angle of an edge, how far do you place the opposite parallel edge? That’s where you just have to practice independent unit cubes to have an intuition about the offset of that other edge. Take some more time to carefully draw straight lines and don’t rush it. Pic related might help

>>3809756
More

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>>3809582
Solid gestures!
Work on proportions of the face and body, they are all kinds of weird right now. Also practice more with a continuous line for contours. It’ll pay off in the long run. Otherwise solid stuff!

>>3809748
Oh, nothing at all desu. Re-reading my post, it makes much less sense than I intended, but I attribute that to me only getting an hour of sleep each night this week. You just seemed super nervous in your posts for some reason.

>>3809708
Merge down line art or get rid of it and paint in the darks. Does the rendering still hold up?

>>3809754
I hate to burst your bubble, but, the idea of "drawing with confidence" is that you know where you're going to start, then stroke across the page with confidence. Re-read the part in Drawabox about drawing lines and shit.

I have pointed out in this picture all of the times that you didn't draw a line with confidence. You drew the line too slow and "thought" too hard about it, which caused your hand to "wobble" to try and compensate.

It's like the first lesson past the part about what supplies you need.
https://drawabox.com/lesson/1/2

I am glad that you are having fun though.

>>3809425
Pretty good. Don’t get caught up in Lee messy expressive stylez and practice more confident strokes. Hatching and lines are a bit jarring. Solid faces good stuff. Necks are placed incorrectly As they should connect at th3 base of the cranium behind the ear. The 3/4 views kind of look like they have turkey necks. Easily fixed.

>>3809763
what do you mean paint in the darks?

>>3809772
If you remove the layer you made with lines, I think you will find that the rendering doesnt exactly hold up. Add those needed dark outlines and contours into the color layer, essentially.

>>3809774
for sure, okay that makes sense thank you!

>>3808582
Any suggestions on how to improve this? or what im doing in general?

>>3809775
Np! Cool concept :)

>>3809778
Hand reaching up is really messed up.
Neck could be darker because of top front lighting of the dark haired girl.
Feathers can have some lightness also because of the lighting.
Cheek planes of same girl can probably have some light on them.
Really quite good, anon!

>>3809783
Yeah I really need to do a hand study and Ill fix the minor light source problems. Thanks for the feed back :)

>>3809599
Look at the angles of the shoulders in yours vs the ref. Draw a line from the apex of each shoulder and you’ll notice yours is straight while the reference has a tilted line drawn between those 2 points. Overall this is a drawing accuracy issue so you need to learn how to make these comparisons to effectively draw from references.

In general it is useful to draw that shoulder line as well as a line along the top of the hip bones. The relationship between these points will help you get the twisting and angling of the pelvis and th3 upper torso.

I faintly marked the new path I'd use for her arm, would that be good? Sadly I used a pen, not a pencil, so the old lines will remain there I can't really change the hand. I'll just pretend the old arm isn't there and I wanna color it so it'll become part of the dark background or whatever.

>>3809147
i do know.

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>>3809796
Thanks bro

>>3809796
Idk, kinda looks like she has a dent in her face, because the mouth is a bit too far out compared to her nose/ nose bridge

>>3809778
your girls are really ugly but i assume thats on purpose

>>3808887
very nice face, nice talent.

>>3809893
Reminds me of pic related (not my work)

Am finally comfortable enough drawing anatomy that I want to finally start doing portrait work. Any suggestions on what I should look at? Main goal is to do caricatures and/or at the vary least map out features so that they're recognizable and I don't into sameface syndrome.

Posted this in the wrong thread before, be as harsh as you like.

Ref to follow

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>>3809166
>when you finaly make it out of beg

>>3810016
use a smaller brush and get to the point where you are able to draw the reference image. After that, start thinking about construction.

>>3810058
>>3810016

This mean just grind away on drawing what I see or is there a way for me to grid out the features so my proportions don't make her look completely different?

I know I probably shouldn't shade with grey but I don't really know how to shade on white otherwise. Do you?

For context, practicing jewelry rendering by hand. Having trouble with pictorial views. I read that a perspective view (using 1+ vanishing points) is more accurate than an isometric view, but does this still hold true for small objects? Doing some comparisons, it seems like an isometric view would be notably easier and more practical for a small object that's seen from above, with the idea that the object is so small the vanishing points are extremely far away to the point that parallel lines for the top and bottom of a cube would appear visually correct. When I see perspective view utilized, especially when 2 or 3 vanishing points are used, I'm left with the impression that the object is large enough that the portion farthest away is notably smaller in comparison to the portion that is closest to the viewer. Do I have the right idea?

>>3810086
Yup.

>>3810080
Just take any color which is in contrast to the color of the light in your piece (or, in your case, whatever looks good) and apply it very slightly. What I mean by "in contrast" is: warm light - cold shadows. Cold light - warm shadows.

>>3810086
You get it i think. Isometric is a specific case of 2 point perspective where you are infinitely zoomed so all receding lines become parallel and you view it from 45 degrees up. When you are drawing small objects like you mentioned, it won’t be isometric specifically since the camera won’t be at 45 all the time, but the receding lines will be close enough to parallel to be treated as such.

>>3810105
Err after googling replace 45 degrees with 35.26, but point stands.

gamers riseu p

>>3810111
Cringe. Are you the girl or the guy

>>3809808
wat up with the eyes?

>>3809759
thanks anon i'll do more face,body and continues line contour studies.

i appreciate the helpful critique.

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>>3810106
Cool, thanks anon. I just also realized that reviewing photos of finished pieces of jewelry and determining its vanishing points will probably help in studying this (assuming no weird lenses being used), so I'll go do that next.

WHY THE FUCK ARE ARMS SO DIFFICULT TO DRAW AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA I KNOW THEIR ANATOMY I KNOW THEIR PROPORTIONS IT NEVER FUCKING LOOKS RIGHT

>>3810141
You can know all you want, but if you haven't drawn it a million times, it'll always be difficult.

>>3810143
I WANT THE SUFFERING TO END IVE DRAWN LIKE 10 DIFFERENT SKETCHES AND I CANT GET IT RIGHT I HAVE NO IMAGINATION AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>3810141
>>3810144
yeah bro, i know that feeling. Dont give up. i suck at drawing hands and arms too, i might doubt myself as a human being. Talk about living but you cant draw humans amaright?

>>3810141
post ur work unironically so we can actually help you better

show us your arms and we will tell you what to improve and what you should study

>>3810030
Global rule 3.

>>3810151
Oh for goodness sake anon there's a thread up with hundreds of replies with a furry OP why should one in a thread matter especially if the thread is about improving ones artwork?

>>3810080
Light blue.

I want to get better at my accuracy and proportions, whether its drawing from life or imagination.

Any tips on improving that? Was thinking of bringing a pen and sketchbook everywhere and trying to draw what I see will help out on this.

>>3810204
Draw a lot.

>>3810204
Draw a lot and be mindful of accuracy and proportions.

>>3810204
google pencil measuring technique (it's really simple) and spend more time measuring every length and angle rather than doing marks on paper

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>>3810212

Does quick sketches with ink alone and long studies using the pencil technique and then ink sound good?

>>3808587
First face out of 200. I have a looong way to go.

>>3810221
Focus on structure and likeness for now. Don’t colour, just use b& w values. Going full colour on these is a lot of wasted effort at your skill level.

>>3809818
Not all girls have the same noses lol and the red I used the girl had a huge beak but other than that (besides the hand) you don't see anything else wrong?

>>3809769
okay, should i just follow this specific text? "What you see in line A is the result of a student having their priorities mixed up, and it's a pretty normal occurrence. It shows that the student is focusing mostly on the accuracy of the stroke, and in order to continually follow the path they've set out for themselves, they sacrifice the flow of the line.
Between these two priorities - accuracy and flow - it is in fact flow that must be put first. When you execute your mark, you need to draw with a confident, persistent pace - enough to keep your brain from interfering and attempting to course-correct as you go. This is such a critical point that I drew this silly comic to illustrate the point.
Now, this probably will make your lines less accurate - but this is something that will improve with practice, and the ghosting method introduced later in this lesson will help a great deal as well" becuase thi seems like what your pointing at.

I don't get it, why does my lineart always look worse than my sketches?

>>3809361
I'm back. I drew a prophet

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>>3808587
Just started drawing seriously a few days ago. I know I got a lot to learn but I'm determined to work. Did a basic anatomy outline of both references. Lower parts are bad, but where else should I improve/practice on the most?

>>3810290
My bad, chose the wrong picture file.

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>>3810294
you are symbol drawing , think in 3d.forms use 3d shapes like cube,spheres,cylinders,ect to draw stuff

>>3810290
>basic anatomy outline
What does this mean?

HELP I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO NOW

>>3810256
I can't tell what's supposed to be what.

>>3810300
Just sketching the outlines of the bodies and poses. Sorry English isn't my first language.

>>3810301
Draw a lot more.

>>3810304
I meant making the lines cleaner and drawing the actual thing without it looking sketchy as hell lol

>>3810256
Line weight, and try drawing and inking simple things first so you can experiment what works and what doesn't for you

>>3810305
Make cleaner lines?

>>3809751
Everything seems super soft, try being more confident

>>3810224
Well, it`s not that bad at b&w filter. But yea, I wasted too much time doing this picture.

>>3810213
Different methods, different skills. Just keep on drawing.

I got to the part in Keys to Drawing where you draw a 3/4 view of your eyes and idk if I'm doing it right anons
any critique would be helpful

>>3808584 #

How much of a beginner am I judging by this ~15 minute sketch?

>>3810255
Yes. If you're going to follow Drawabox you need to read EVERYTHING he writes and follow it TO THE LETTER just as he says. You shouldn't be skipping ahead or making up your own rules. He even says this multiple times.

Remember to rotate the page and draw the line in one smooth quick stroke.

>>3810407
a lot.

Tried some more portraits

Didn't turn out as well as I wanted

Need to study on Loomis more.

How to learn perspective?

read perspective made easy

>>3810407
It at least looks human and you knew how to connect some shapes to make it less flat. Still a total beginner but some people coming here aren't even beginners, your lines aren't really good but your skill with the pen improves over time. You have a lot of room to get better, do something that isn't a quick sketch but first study something.

>>3810258
Based, focus on darker places in the nostrils, it will give them more detail.

It seems i hit wall. How do I move to improve myself it seems I didnt progress at all for more then half year. I yearn for more realistic outlook.

Anything that might push me in right direction would be greatly approciated. Thank you

Been tudying a lot of forms these days

>>3810579
*studying

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>>3810435

Not bad, the guy on the bottom right looks really good

>>3810586
Thanks, some stuff I did the other day

>>3810080
you shouldnt even be shading yet.
Loomis

>>3810593
Well done.

critique my proportions

>>3810650
its like you've bothered to study the body a bit, but not the head/face, where you resort to anime stylization. You can't really do both at once, either stylize completely or study.

>>3810650
ereeeeeeenn

>>3810656
I understand, well just the proportions of the head to the body, is it faulty?

>>3810644
One more, from a week ago

I don't get it, how do I draw more loosely?

>>3810758
I find the biggest factor for getting good lines early on is mood and how fast your current heartbeat is. Other than is the structural approach, the more u understand what you're drawing the less lines you will use to define something, reduction and simplification. So basically just keep practicing

>>3808582
AHHH I hate faces I wish human are born without face AHHHH

How can i fix his eyes ? i feel really weird about those eyes. And did i make any mistakes eleswhere ?

Alright, I'm bored and I want to draw shit I see in my head. I've read the sticky and have been lurking for a few days now. What's the biggest personal tip you can give? I've already done a few of the Loomis ball head drawings for what it's worth.

Hey first time in /ic/. I doodled this in class today and was actually kind of proud. Are there any pros that can tell me if I should post here or perhaps some intermediate thread?

>>3810934
Pretty decent stuff bro. How old are you?

>>3810939
Instead of telling you I’m going to draw it for you!

Hey /ic/.
How can i improve my spacing / timing? It feels like i used too many frames for such a short, not to mention it feels off if i watch it a couple times.
Thanks in advance.

>>3810837
draw those loomis heads a million more times, also keep drawing whats in your head, millions of times. use references to help you achieve stuff. learn perspective and basic anatomy. masterbate a lot, like a lot a lot. repeatedly punch your face with your dick until your forehead has a permanent dick shaped concave in it. dont do drugs. jog a mile a day. do 100 pushups, 100 situps and 100 pullups errday. practice drawing coicles and loins. fuck your face against a brickwall. learn color theory and practice drawing 3d shapes.

>>3810499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFbYuWixFBU&t=0s

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Is it helpful?

>>3811001
>masterbate a lot
But today is the beginning of a two week porn/fap abstinence so I can try to get over my PIED and delayed ejaculation.

>>3810758
Obviously practice, but doing shorter gestures can help you focus on the flow of the pose (like 15-30sec) rather than getting bogged down in details. I also find that using a much bigger brush for the initial can be useful for this too, since it forces you to get a lot looser to get the information down (like use a brush that's about the width of like an arm or a leg in the scale you're working).

>>3810992
Pretty sure there is an animation thread somewhere and I highly doubt anyone here will know. In my uneducated opinion (just going by gut here) the dog/monster needs to have his lick stretched out or at different tempos (?) right now its just a uniform (?) motion- as in it kind of moves its head the same amount in each frame. Imagine if you just briefly licked something in 1 smooth uniform motion. Meanwhile imagine a cat's rought tongue licking something textured, It'd have more friction and travel slower or the head would outpace the tongue or something. take my opinion with a grain of salt I really dont know shit about animation.

it feel somewhat weird IC, how can i improve him, maybe im over brushing it ?

>>3809359
this is so adorable anon thanks for making this

Can anyone recommend any simple shading/volume tutorials for Krita?

Been practising with it but I don't really know my way around all the tools.

Still plagued by chicken scratching. Really trying to break out of the habit but my inability to draw a straight/nonwonky line disheartens me and I revert back to scratching. Also fuck hair. Trying to place the shit is confusing as hell. Trying to get a braided ponytail if it's not obvious.

>>3811160
when you know construction and the planes of the face, shading it's easier, independently of the software you use.

>>3811004

It's one of the most helpful things I've learned in the last few months

>>3809088
Holy shit take a look at this, fellas. Photoshop really does wonders. I might not get a good drawing to show IRL but this thing has the ability to grab anything and rotate it and resize it, even change its perspective. With enough hours I can make this look right. Of course I'm beg so my idea of right will be off, but it already improved the thing by a lot I hadn't noticed how her whole body was so wrong on paper. This program is a really good tool I had only used it to paint before.

>>3808806
Who is your gf? Alison Brie?

trying to practice face proposition/feature placement
is it just me or unless you go full anime/retarded loomis you need a reference??????????????????????????

>>3811225
Jesus fuck just use loomis

>>3811226
its so not qute

>>3811229

>>3810801
Well done, now use a thinner brush and get more subtle until it looks like her

>>3811109
Thank you anon. I'll give it a go.

the road is long

>>3811118
>>3811002

>>3811299
I don't know why, maybe it's the size of the chairs, but these two seem quite young

>>3811313
Proportion. Especially the head.

>>3811233
i still disagree

Been struggling with perspective and adding depth, any advice? And what should I start learning next?

I've pretty much just been faffing about with geometric shapes, perspective, and featureless loomis heads. Tonight I finally decided to try and put things on a face. I feel like the shading on the neck kinda ruined it. Any tips?

>>3811392

>>3811387
https://archive.org/details/PerspectiveMadeEasy

>>3811397
Thanks. I actually did notice the ear positioning right after I posted (which also needs to be a bit bigger now that I look at it again). But, I did miss the eye/lip alignment. I might try to patch it up a bit tomorrow, or just re-do it.

>>3811407
Just thought it would make the angle difference of the nose-ear line clearer.

>>3809488
Don't be hopeless! YOU CAN DO IT!

>>3808582
Can anyone help me fix the proportions? She looks very stiff -_-

>>3811484

>>3811399
Thanks this'll help alot

I will worship anyone that can locate for me the bellybutton-abs-chest. Muscles are so confusing to me

>>3809249
Actually as a still life study that would get an A in an exam no problem at college entry grade...
Its the design school graduates that are the main competition coming from homes of good taste with coffee table books and huge art resources...you can still have on pencil and make it to have more of yourself than them..just try not to compare or get disheartened..

>>3811519
What's with the 3 lines on the head?

>>3811537
i keep telling myself that they help me with eyes nose and mouth

>>3810837
Remember the stuff you see displayed in school exhibitions is the pick of the crop heaps of unseen stuff so again for beginners trust instinct with favourite pens and felt tips....most artists use scrapbooks and draw everywhere especially travelling..going through my exes artbox i find stadeler rotring and Daler pens & brushes but seriously my proportions and shading and calligraphy was way better than his....still musnt discourage the boy

>>3808582
im getting bettter

I've heard rendering with layer modes is a thing. Anyone know how to do this in Paint Tool Sai?

>>3811484
You could try making her stick her ass out a bit so her back arcs slightly, this should add some more dynamic

First time drawing a female head.
Tried to use more construction lines like the other anon mentioned last thread but my proportions are still off and my drawing does not resemble the ref.

I struggle mainly with the eyes, and although I can pinpoint flaws once the drawing is more or less done, I am still fucking up the positioning of features. Nose is too long and mouth should be more separate from it. What fucks me up the most tho: I started with the right eye which is too far apart and all plumbing lines drag that error (mouth too wide). Is there any way to correct that in the beginning or should I just train my eye by drawing more? Also how's the overall head shape and the shadowing? Help lads I just want not to suck

Anons, please help me. I know its important to draw what you want/for fun/doodle alongside serious studies but I just cant do it. I have such a crippling hatred for anything I draw that I cant even pick up the pen and pencil when I have time. What do?

>>3811699
Keep drawing

>>3811699
I only draw what I really enjoy. This means I'm a reaaally slow learner, but at least I'm persistent.

>>3811699
Post serious study.

So when drawing a character/figure where do you start?

Do you put the head down first and let the body flow from that? Put a line to mark the length you want and make that the spine? Do you start with shoulders? Feet and build up?

Why the fuck is this so hard for me?

>>3809249
same Anon here
wanted to do one a bit quicker, not sure on the shape with this one and I struggled to get the light on since the orange's texture didn't pick it up much, and the little bumps are hard to put onto the paper

to be fair though it does look like there's more space on the right (on the actual orange) so maybe it's fine, gonna keep practicing on more fruits and such

>>3810435
>>3810593
>>3810670
good work

>>3811758
look up gesture drawing, there's a bunch of good resources online

>>3811758
Generally you draw a line of action and then refine a section for the spine and construct from there

>>3811699
draw the embodiment of your hatred. Put it down on paper. Try to imagine it. What is it? Is it a place like hell a okace of the ultimate sufering? Or an empty blank nothingness? Or is it a monster? Is it a demon? Is it Lovecraftian chaotic mess? Is it a person? Does it have a name and face?

Do this Anon!

>>3811758
Draw the core idea in a few crude lines. Which you can build upon and refine.

Been looking for this book everywhere, does anyone know where to find it?

Thanks guys.

>>3811775
I'll look into

>>3811778
Will try

>>3811786
So similiar to >>3811778 ?

>>3811759
Stop taking pictures at an angle, it only distorts the drawing.

>>3811790
>So similiar to >>3811778 ?
Too meticulous.

should I buy a compas to draw basic shapes?

>>3811824
No, you need to train your muscle memory. Unless you're doing actual technical drawing

Is there any tutorials or guides that will help me go from a rough sketch (that took far too long to do) to a more complete looking drawing?

How do I get nice smooth, long lines when I'm wobbly as shit? Or is it just a case of gotta practice and draw more?

why does my figures look so shitty? I've filled sketchbook after sketchbook with this shits and i don't improve. the "just draw bro" bs doesn't work for me. Also sorry for the pic quality.

>>3811950
you try box and shit before learning gesture
go to drawing database in youtube and draw along his figure class

Been drawing for about a month now, want to learn how to draw then jump to digital drawing.

Someone suggested to buy a tablet and learn how to draw digitally.

Your thoughts /beg/?

>>3811977
By this I mean disregard traditional tools and jump right into digital drawing.

>>3811977
yes buy a cheap screenless tablet and try practice drawing in that
spend some time drawing with pen paper too

>>3811987
I see

I imagined it was something along the lines of getting good with pencil and paper then doing digital stuff afterwards.

>>3811996
There are fewer distractions and you don't have to learn the whole digital ecosystem. But if you want to do digital, do digital. It's a toss up between learning basic drawing skills and not wasting money if you give up in the first 6 months like most people and the immense boost being forced to paint gives you.

>>3811299
Is the one on the left done traditionally?

Will I come to understand anatomy and proportion though figure drawing or is there a more efficient method?

What are the best photoshop brushes and are there such things as brushes that give bad habits or something?

How should I hold my pencil if I'm working on a flat?
Should I go overhand or tripod?

>>3812015
Yeah Jeremy Mann

>>3811950
Crappy and lazily drawn forms.

>>3812052
>proportion
yes, that's one of the reasons people do figure drawing studies
>anatomy
only after you read books or watch videos on subject, all those forms and bumps make no sense until then

>>3808584
Definitely made his legs too small.

>friend redlines something for me
>cant even copy the redline
>cant even draw a mediocre straight line or a circle
is it normal to cry when drawinG?

>>3812233
Yes
And you better get used to it

>>3812233
You'll be crying until you have no more tears.

critique? i think this is one of the better portraits ive done

>>3812263
Shading is not bad, but the hair looks like it's sculpted out of clay
Try to add a bit more texture to sell the idea that it's hair

Also, the rest of the body looks as flat as a plank

>>3812263
I like you can tell the front plane from the side plane, because you didn't just cover everything up in hair for once, good job.
To me the ear looks kinda flat, as in it looks like a drawing of an ear glued flat on the side of the head. The body is still pretty weak, and your features still look odd, but no as odd as they used to.

>>3812263
it looks a little like the mouth, philtrum and nose are left of the line of symmetry

Should the asymmetry of this bother me to the point I want to give up? It's just a rough outline of the head and eyes but it makes me want to quit right here. Is it that bad or is it just in my head?

This shit also takes like 10 minutes. Should it take that long? Shit.

>>3812318
You're wasting to much time trying to get your guide lines perfect. Train your hand and your whole arm first so you can draw circles and curved lines with just one to two lines. At this stage your drawing doesn't have to be perfect, it's just to give you a rough idea of where all the bodyparts go. Also, try to avoid chicken-scratching (making hundreds of small lines instead of one smooth curve)
Get your hand used to your tools first.

>>3812318
People are not perfectly symmetrical anyways. And perfectly centered head looking dead straight ahead should not be the thing you draw the most anyways. Unless you're severely autistic and can't help it.

>>3812263
duuuuude, i told ya. build up your values. start with 2(one for light and one for dark side) and add one to each everytime.
pic related is just 2 values in the light side and 2 values in the dark side. using halfway to black.
ganbatte

>>3812342
okay so this is shit then?

>>3811697

It seems to me that you're still stuck with symbol drawing, read Keys to Drawing and do the exercises there.

I wouldn't try shading until you learn how the planes of the head work. But don't beat yourself up too much, your drawings will look shitty in the beginning, just don't give up

>>3811548

They're all over the place tho, check loomis

i think a cool enough concept can apologize for a lack of skill. I wish I was better so I could give the concept what it deserves though.

I've done this guys not finished it yet but I need help for the background how can I do something more dynamic?

>tried my hardest on the boobs
>they all came out like shit
>stayed up all night doing this
so uh....hows your morning going?

>>3812401
Try drawing them like this

>>3812401
Is there an invisible white hole in the cleavage forcing each titty as far away from the other as possible or something?

>>3812402
i was trying to do a front facing, that's a different angle.
Thanks for the feedback though, I have to go to work now, so ill be back to post more shit tier drawings in 12 hours

>>3812403
i dont know how it occured but i tried to ref using pic related

>>3812404
Here have a page from my guidebooks

You're focusing way too much on them separating.

The main issue is with the shape of the boob. It's tear-shaped and not a deflated balloon

>>3811392
I've changed it a bit. Is this any better than the first? Is this any good at all?

>>3812405
Not the guy you were talking to, but are there translated copies of that book available?

>>3812410
Unfortunately not
Good thing I can read a little jp

>>3812410
Here's a pic of the book if you want to find it nevertheless

>>3812412
>>3812413
Aww okay, sadly I don't really have a use for it then. But you never know, haha! Thanks!

>>3812321
>>3812325

Thanks for the feedback guys. I'll try and take what you've said on board.

>unless you're severely autistic

Shit boys, I think I'm in trouble.

>>3812427
You mean the entire board is in trouble, Anon

thoughts, comments, opinions? i’m a bit weary on the lining of the whole thing, and also the body.

>>3812435
Looks like a tranny.

I dig.

>>3812438
Traps are gay anon

>>3812440
Yes, yes they are.

There's nothing manlier than forcing another man into total submission though.

Every ancient general knows this.

Can someone critique this? something feels off and I think it might either be the anatomy or the colors

>>3812447
hair too big

>>3812405
its me, im the guy you replied to with the white hole tits
can you post the full art book? that looks useful, and im a visual learner rather than a reader.

>>3812469
There are 145 pages man
You're going to kill me

>>3812479
oh shit
dont worry then
can you give me the title so i can find it or something, i cant read a lick of japanese

>>3812483
おんあのこ描き方
Translated: How To Draw Women

>>3812485
thanks! maybe ill use it and be able to suck less at some point in the future

shading is so hard....

>>3812488
I was curious too and I found it on sadpanda.


https://exhentai.org/g/1273138/51f5d815d8/

>>3812490
Nice save, anon
I don't have to cry and scan 145 pages of this book lmao

>>3812489
It's hard because you don't seem to have figured out how to assign shapes to certain body parts

Remembering the spheres and cylinders you drew in art class is useful here

>>3812490
its very funny to me that this is on exhentai

>>3812489
Especially when you don't understand value nor perspective.

>>3812409
Ear is misplaced, the top should follow the browline. Your ref is slightly looking up but you drew him in a neutral pose. Don't worry about the shading that much for now, keep practising feature placement and head construction. Also look up how to draw and texture hair

Quick question
Is nsfw work allowed here?

>>3810583
cute shitbox anon

>>3812581
lurk more.

studying simple perspective but i feel like i suck dicks. I always had problems with perspective. Any good tutorials or advices? I already started perspective made easy but idk.

>>3812607
and ofc i forgot to resize

>>3812607
>>3812609
Simplify your figures into basic forms.

critique please

>>3812635
forgot to attach file

this is my first try at realism with digital, but ive been fucking around doing anime shit for quite a few months. How do I improve from here? There's this fuzzy looking feel to this that makes me uncomfortable

>>3812581
Just go ahead, I posted my nsfw stuff all over the place and so far noone called me out for it, many people here are NSFW artists

>>3812639
This was my second try. Btw what brush should i use on phoroshop to achieve this look https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCxuWm6C9eA

>>3812638
and I'm a dumbass and didn't resize

>>3812642
Thanks anon

Here's something I'm working on. I'll add the line weights later after I've finished with general lining of the art

>>3812661
What program are you using?

>>3812665
Clip Studio Paint Ex
It's a pretty nifty program that has a database of movable 3D reference models and the such

>>3812661
Ohh, sexy! But her back seems kinda off..? If her boobs are visible like that I'd assume her spine would arch so you can see her back sticking out left from the hair..? Not sure though. And her forearm seems a bit too thick, especially where it joins to the elbow. Otherwise great work!

>>3812669
Gotcha! I'll work on that straight away!

Thanks for liking what I do :')

>>3812669
>>3812673
Additionally the area where the hip joins to the torso on the right hand side seems a little off, but maybe that will look more natural once it's colored and shaded. And usually there is no "fold" at the wrist, like you indicated with a line. Maybe just add the wrist knuckle and remove the line I'd say. Keep it up!

Should I do the Watts program? A good way to learn?

>>3812669
Seeing it in b/w is kinda confusing with all the masses of lines in the way, so I coloured it to highlight the area

>>3812674
The hand is slightly tilted to the camera, so I wanted to put a line somewhere to indicate that the wrist is bent and a bit of foreshortening occurred there. Not putting anything there feels weird to me

Done on photoshop

>>3812720
What is with her ridiculously large hips?

>>3812720
I get that you're trying to draw her thicc or whatever even though it's a shitty meme, but it's way excessive

>>3812720>>3812725
>>3812730
Here is another one

>>3808823
Kek

Am I gonna make it?

>>3812749
Yes

where am I going wrong, /beg/?

>>3812804
Take a good hard look. Do you actually see these lines you've drawn in the reference or are you just making shit up?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZknWKTpc90

>>3812804
not sure why you coped his drawing Anon, it's supposed to be yourself at a three-quarter angle

anyway here's me and my droopy right eyelid, pretty happy with it
need to stop smudging for shading though since it takes a lot of time and the book doesn't say to do it
same Anon as >>3809249 and >>3811759

>>3812838
Do you have no soul? Your eyes lead into a void.

>>3812841
what do you want me to do, put a smiley face in there?
the pupil is totally black, the 'soul' just comes from the light reflecting on the eye which at my angle was where I put it on the right eye, the left eye was behind the nose and in the dark, and I'm not in a bright room

Not sure if this is the right place to post this, but does anyone else get pissed off at people who CONSTANTLY make excuses for their art? Like they do shitty fucking MSPaint drawings or something and when you tell them to stop drawing with a mouse in MSPaint they're like
>"Bro, I'm just doing this for fun lol I'm not gonna make a career out of it!!"
but then at the same time get super defensive and make up excuses for why their "art" is so shit?
>"Bro, I don't draw all the time"
>"Bro, I got IRL stuff going on lmao"
>"Bro, I can't afford a tablet" (nevermind the fact that they could just draw on fucking paper)
>"Bro, it's just my 'shit posty' kind of style" (yes, I have legitimately heard this as an excuse in that exact wording)
Like there is this retarded idea that learning and improving is not the same as having fun and that they are opposing ideas. Like you can either only have fun drawing or you can only be serious and grind out fundamentals, no fucking in between. I hear this "dude, I just do it for fun" excuse all the fucking time, not just with drawing but with EVERYTHING. It's time to stop making fucking excuses. If you TRULY cared it wouldn't matter how much "irl shit" is happening, because you would make time to improve your art. If you REALLY only do it "just for fun" or whatever, that's fine I guess, but you could be having a lot MORE fun by improving and learning.
I've just run into two people that have given me these exact same fucking types of excuses. It's time to stop making excuses.

>>3812854
Why do you care?

>>3812737
>>3812720
>>3812854
Can you critise my artwork please

>>3812854
>says all of this
>contradicts Like you can either only have fun drawing or you can only be serious and grind out fundamentals, no fucking in between.
What did anon mean by this?

>>3812854
How else are you supposed to respond when someone calls your art shit? It will always be out of the blue, so you either say nothing or be like "what the fuck is this guy going on about like I'm some hardcore artist?"

I am returning with more trash. Been trying to integrate more perspective into my sketches by establishing it with boxes and cylinders first.

>>3812873
You're not exempt from criticism because "bro, I wasn't even trying lol" that's just an excuse to protect your own ego.
>>3812869
The point I'm making is there not exclusive ideas, improving and having fun or the same thing or at least they should be.

>>3812934
They're* Sorry I'm using voice to text.

>>3812804
I see what you're going for, but instead of lines, this is more of a value-focused project.

Try shaping your drawing more around values than the forms you see. Hell, get some 4B, and 6B action in there. 2B or whatever pencil you're using isn't gonna cut it for this one.

>>3812749
Eventually.

>>3812934
You have to understand that you're right and other people have different goals that are shit.

How do I give in to simplicity? I always try the hardest to go for realism which I can't achieve, but I can't bend and just draw something "simple". Even when doodling I try too hard and everything is unsadisfying. I feel like I can't break out of this. Any advice?

>>3812392
Someone help this guy, to me it looks perfect but he could improve

>>3813006
maybe set time limits for what you're drawing, it'll force you to focus on the basics

>>3813008
its not beg

>>3813006
Impressionism. Work into something from big to small, the stop halfway. If you aren't working big to small, do that.

>>3813008
Fuck.

>>3812392
Go outside and take some photos in weird weather. It doesn't look like you've done landcapes, and definitely not plein aire. Go sketch some clouds and shit. It can be loose so loosen up. Let the weather tell the story.

>>3813011
Huh true
>>3813006
Draw cartoons or anime with a clear style in your head so you stick to it and learn how the author simplified things

Book recommendations for drawing people and characters?

>>3813037
Figure Drawing for All It's Worth by Loomis, Figure Drawing by Michael Hampton

>>3813037
Bridgman.

>>3812645
yo guys help :(

Keys to drawing or right side of the brain?

>>3812435
leave beg
>>3812749
probably not

>>3813127
If you're a brainlet, the latter. If you're not, the former.

>>3812645
Pretty /beg/ myself so take my post with a grain of salt, but I think you should push your values more, especially when you've got that much of a difference in lighting, it has a name which I forgot. Another thing I can see is that your shadows and highlights are almost all the same red but with higher or lower value. Try choosing some other relatively colder colors for the shadows, not like this one of course, but you get the idea I hope.
Keys to drawing has an overview that let's you in quickly, and I think you can find a few youtube videos (not tutorials) that go more into depth in color theory and light