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3811574 No.3811574 [Reply] [Original]

At first I didn't like loomis much, because I honestly had a hard time understanding him. Yes I'm a brainlet in art so sue me.

But everywhere I looked for info to learn few could match Loomis(vilppu, robertson and hampton).

It was either a scam, or overpriced garbage, a waste of money and time. Or the few goods ones like watts atelier were just reselling loomis.

Even those like Proko that "explain" loomis just overcomplicate the hell out of his teachins. Ex compare his manequin vs Proko.

What opened my eyes was how indeed the japanese are just using your stuff and adapting it to anime.

Krens Cushart, in particular, opened my eyes. he heavily references Loomis in his lessons.

I'm going to study Loomis more seriously. Loomis you were always there giving the answers for free... and I didn't listen.

But from now on I will.

>> No.3811576

>>3811574
why dont you just learn from vilppu or Watt then

>> No.3811577

>>3811576
Loomis is touching topics they don't cover. The manequin basically

Hampton assumes you already know and vilppu doesn't teach the manequin.

>> No.3811579
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3811579

>>3811574
>What opened my eyes was how indeed the japanese
So it had to take a gook artist to make you come to the realization on what we've been spouting you this entire fucking time? Just because we didn't serve Loomis under Moon Runes? That's all it fucking took? No, you fuck off to Christopher Hart we're fucking done I just can't believe this shit.

>> No.3811581

hobo btfo

>> No.3811582

>>3811574
How do I get as good as Loomis?

>> No.3811583

>>3811582
Loomis.

>> No.3811587

>>3811579
like I said I'm a brainlet in art.

>> No.3811589

>>3811582
Bridgman

>> No.3811592

>>3811577
You don't need a mannequin tho

>> No.3811594

Loomis is the Mark Rippetoe of art.

>> No.3811598

>>3811592
Yeah, I am not falling for that trap again...

Loomis says learning the mannequin is essential so I will stick with him.

>> No.3811609

>>3811598
Vilppu mannequin is to simplify body into form
similar to Steve Huston method
much more easy to visualize especially in tough perspective and still leave room to add the anatomy

>> No.3811615

>>3811609
I will check it out. Thanks.

>> No.3811663

>>3811574

loomis is the greatest power

>> No.3811729

>>3811583
Didn't Loomis himself study from Bridgman?

>> No.3811730

All his books should be combined into one big fat book and called the Loomis bible

>> No.3811734

>>3811730
>All his books should be combined into one big fat book
I would buy a hardcover

>> No.3811742

>>3811729
Yes, and Bridgman studied under Jean-Léon Gérôme.

So if you really want to learn Loomis you need to study Gérôme.

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3811747

>>3811742
>and Bridgman studied under Jean-Léon Gérôme

>ywn have a god teach you art

>> No.3811796

>>3811747
you would be ngmi even if you were taught by a god

>> No.3811809

>>3811742
>>3811747
>Jean-Léon Gérôme passes on his teachings to Bridgman who passes it on to Loomis who passes it on to everyone
Is that why the power is so diluted? Loomis spread it too thin.

>> No.3811825

>>3811809
how so?

>> No.3811858

>>3811809
Post your work

>> No.3811959

It's worth noting that of the popular academic instructors constantly recommended here, Loomis is the most successful in the field of commercial art. He had the longest and most prolific career, albeit largely forgotten compared to his books.

Doesn't mean he's the best, also doesn't mean his books are the best. But his writings are uniquely informed by his real world work experience, rather than a purely fine art or academic perspective.

>> No.3812068

Based on how much people masturbate to Loomis here, I'm very surprised there isn't a study group for Loomis material here, why don't you start a Discord group for it?

I actually just bought Fig Drawing for All it's Worth and Drawing the Head and Hands, I went through Fun with a Pencil when I started but never bothered to read the rest of his work, hope I learn some new things with this, especially portraits.

>> No.3812079

>>3811959
It isn't worth noting. That was 80+ years ago.

>> No.3812110

>>3812079
it's worth noting that doesn't devaluate his point at all.

>> No.3812112

>>3812110
True, it's just that the point was useless.

>> No.3812620

>>3812068
That would be cool, I think it could be beneficial to have people be able to compare what they’re struggling with and trade advice.

>> No.3812671

>>3812068
I sadly don't have time to open a discord, But I might open a thread to study loomis.

>> No.3812691

Is it worth to do Fun with a Pencil? I find it too boring at the beginning.

>> No.3812697

>>3812691
No, learn the basic shapes and how to free hand them into perspective, then you can move onto the other loomis books, head first since figures will always look like shit if you have no idea how to draw a head. Face is generally the main focal point. Learn how to sharpen a pencil and use it more akin to a brush.

>> No.3812713

>>3811594
What's the GOMAD of /ic/?

>> No.3812724
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3812724

>>3812068
>he actually bought it

>> No.3812728

>>3812724
the scans are shit

>> No.3812738

>>3811574
loomiss drawings always hit the uncanny valley for me
the more I stare at the op's picture the more disturbing it gets

>> No.3812807

>>3812713
Drawabox

>> No.3812808

>>3812068
Why does Loomis have such cartoony drawings in the beginning of Fig Drawing for All it's Worth but later on he displays his true skills?

>> No.3813012

>>3812738
You're just conditioned by modern media to find that old vision of white America disturbing and unnatural, "Stepford wives", "traditional American family with traditional values and white picket fence hiding a dark secret plot" in modern movies/TV shows, etc..

>> No.3813023

>>3813012
That's the problem, Loomis only draws stylized Americans

>> No.3813097

>>3812713
blooks/manikin

drink up

>> No.3813098

>>3813023
It's too illustrative for me. I just can't relate.

>> No.3813102

>>3813098
who gives a shit about relating. He teaches me to draw and I can apply it to animu girls. That's what matters.

>> No.3813109

Do ten hail mannequins and Loomis will forgive you. maybe.

>> No.3813112

>>3813102
True, but I don't like that subpar Rockwell shit. I'd rather copy Bargue plates. It's more aesthetically pleasing. jmo

>> No.3813146

>>3813112
Your loss.

>> No.3813178

>>3813146
I could see that if I was creating ads for a 1930s Sears catalog.

>> No.3813180

>>3813178
You do know you can use his teachings to draw in other styles right?

>NGMI

>> No.3813181

>>3813012
>stepford wives
there it is
couldn't quite put my finger on it but that's exactly what all of loomiss drawings remind me of

>> No.3813186

>>3813180
That's true. Country pasta clicked with me when I started using his manikin. Please forgive me Mr. Blook, I want to succeed.

>> No.3813188

>>3813181
Dude you can use his teachings to draw anime and other shit.

You won't be drawing a 40s dad smoking his pipe while his wife cleans the kitchen...

>> No.3813298

>>3813188
>Dude you can use his teachings to draw anime and other shit.
prprove it

>> No.3813299
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3813299

>>3813298
I'm tempted to just allow you to fail and figure it out yourself...but what the heck.

Exhibit A : Loomis manequin applied to anime character.

>> No.3813304

>>3813181
I get 50s cocacola pinup vibes from it
maybe it's because I'm not american

either way he draw great female faces, very classic but really attractive

>> No.3813305

>>3813299
alright now do an anime head

>> No.3813308
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3813308

>>3813298

Guess what the japanese are using? Krens cushart also uses loomis.

If you don't believe me then you're not going to make it.

>> No.3813312

>>3813305

/beg detected. All mangakas pretty much use the loomis method to draw hads.

You're not gonna make it.

>> No.3813313

>>3813308
>just believe me without proof and an image of a book

>> No.3813314

>>3813305
not that guy but you just change the proportions to fit the style you want to work in

>> No.3813317

>>3813313
>ngmi

I don't Care if you don't believe me. By all means, fail,

>> No.3813323

>>3813308
go on amazon.co.jp and see the 4 reviews that call loomis mediocre gaijin shit

>> No.3813328

>>3813317
>can't back up claim and starts coping by acting like he doesn't care
Alright then.

>> No.3813331

>>3813323
Lol those japs are not gonna make it.

I've yet to see a mangaka that doesn't use the loomis head method.

>> No.3813333

>>3813328
>Expect me to baby sit him instead of doing his research

You are not gonna make it.

>> No.3813335

>>3813331
I mean there's like 4 reviews total

>> No.3813337

>>3813333
What does making it mean to you?

>> No.3813339
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3813339

>>3813328

Heres an anime face done using the loomis method.

And that's why you are not goinna make it.

>> No.3813341

>>3813339
looks nothing like it

>> No.3813345

>>3813341

becuase it's modified retard. like he explains in fun with pencil.

>NGMI

>> No.3813346

>>3813339
Literally not Loomis

>> No.3813349

>>3813346

Are you trolling or just retarded?

That's the loomis methiod. Sphere for head + a wedge for the chin

>You are not gonna make it.

>> No.3813357

>>3813349
Neither of those faggots, your problem is that you are not applying enough Loomis.

>> No.3813359

>>3813357
This, if it's not stiff and lifeless, it's not Loomis.

>> No.3813360

>>3813357
I'm the one defending loomis...

>> No.3813361

>>3813359
Stop projecting.

>> No.3813362

>>3813359
Ah so you were trolling me. You got me you got me good. I mean nobody could re that retarded to think loomis can't help in anime, right?

>> No.3813363

>>3813360
Needs more Loomis.

>> No.3813364

>>3813349
A circle with a line through it doesn't make it Loomis. Every time you "ngmi" you're projecting.

>> No.3813366

>>3813364

>NGMI

>> No.3813370

>>3813366
exactly. Have fun at your dead-end warehouse job in the middle of Mississippi.

>> No.3813373

>>3813370
Have fun drawing like shit.

>NGMI

>> No.3813377

>>3813370
That was awfully specific Cletus

>> No.3813381

>>3813377
He is ironically projecting.... lol.

>> No.3813382

>>3813377
Cletus is still alive? What the fuck?

>> No.3813943

Is this loomis or something else? The results look quite spectacular

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_05or04sGAo&list=PL_4Sfkf9CAWHxATrK8qIPPyVCDqPZ_Tj0&index=33&t=0s

>> No.3813966
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3813966

>>3811579
Gooks are Koreans. I’m sure you’re just a dumb kike who doesn’t know/care about the difference.
But nice try being edgy and mean, though. It’s a lot funnier when the ignorance shines through.

>> No.3814045

>>3813943
Yeah, at least based on Loomis.

>> No.3814606

>>3812724
the books are beautiful so serve as decoration as well.