/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

hes getting worse bros.....

>>3805672
Why does he always have such saturated color schemes

How come he never try to paint other style of rendering? It's obvious he can do both realistic, hyperrealist, anime, 2D rendering.

>>3805674
i think he's just using more challenging angles that expose his weaknesses more.

>>3805672
as always everything looks like cotton

>>3805674
>>3805677
>>3805682
>>3805700
Envy should be a crime punishable by the most inhumane torture imaginable.

>>3805932
But why? What's wrong with envy?

>>3805672
The way he renders metallic objects always weirds me out. It looks like a photo montage.

>>3805965
He renders them more reflective than they would be, as if they are super polished.
But that is absolutely a stylistic choice.

>>3805672
This man's brush strokes are just unbelievable, this stuff is too good man

>>3805672
>Those arms

Lolmao

>>3805672
oh ya dadddy

>>3806010
The edges are weird too. Everything has this blurry effect but when it comes to metal he's like "Oh naw we can't have that here" and then paints it with super crispy fucking edges.

>>3805672
Word on the street is he painted that in a 30000x45000 canvas

>>3806034
>mfw my computer can barely work at 8kx 4k

>>3805932
I think you mean "jealousy". Either way, you're retarded for thinking that.

>>3806036
Mine starts to melt a hole in my table at A4 300dpi with 16bit

>>3805672
What is Ruan Jias main Brush? Anyone knows?

>>3806068
hard round.

>>3806034
he already stated he works on a 4000x6000 max
so no youre wrong.

all the ornamental shit he puts on his characters always looks so off, it's like someone photobashed...except he doesn't which somehow makes it even worse.

is he doing it intentionally?

I like how simple the picture really is it has basically just 5 values.

>>3806089
Probably ? It's the most appealing thing in his work to me, I can't be the only one. So he probably does it on purpose

>>3806068

>>3805672
The brushwork is better here and I see how he's trying to combine old illustration aesthetics with Rembrandt rendering but I don't think he's quite nailed it yet. This painting is not pleasant to look at. The color and perspective contrasts are too harsh. I wish there were more storytelling here as well. It's too fine art.

>>3805672
So no one is gonna point out how fucked up the whole foreshortening is? Just look at the area around the left thigh. What the actual fuck?

>>3806134

it's a cylinder in 3 point perspective xD

>>3805672
He really likes gold and hair that looks like a wig

>>3806188
Kek is it because of how shiny and thin the hair looks?

I honestly like it a lot more than most RJ threads we had recently.
The composition is clear, it reads well, it carries the message accross and the whole thing is coherent.
It's also more original than "skull rider brandishing a sword" #5521 that the last thread was about.
Pretty much everything that I don't like in this pic can be pinned on artistic choices.

>>3806032
It's a stylistic choice and I believe he mainly does it to direct attention.
His works are always focused on contrasting sharp and blury values, that seems to be the main way he directs attention.

>>3806134
Yeah WTF why does it look so weird?
I thought this guy was a professional, why did /ic/ lie to me?

>>3806068
He has shared how he works.
He uses for main parameters
>Rough/textured
>Wet
>Hard
>Soft
So he uses just usual hard round Brush with wet, soft round with texture, hard round with texture and stuff round with wetness. He contrasts them, so he will use wet hard together with with texture soft etc.
I had his pic explaining it somewhere.
>>3806206
No, it's correct. I'm not at pc right now but just build a 3 point perspective grid and put a bound box around her, you will see it's rig

>>3806212
lol, box. yeah that will help..
theres definitely something wrong with it. the landscape isnt in same perspective as the character

>>3806219
she is in wide angle, background is more tele

>>3805672
is the blue supposed to be water or sky?

>>3806236
It's whatever you want it to be, anon.

>>3806236
sky
there are also clouds

>>3805672
The background structure is really cool and super well done. This drawing would be a lot better if that stupid fucking eagle lady wasn't in the foreground. Get her out of the way

>>3805965
I think it looks weird also, but I'm pretty sure thats just a stylistic choice like the other anon said. I do like how it looks though.

>>3806239
Nah, they're above the clouds and looking down on the sea.

>>3806212
>>3806068
you can download his brushset somewhere

>>3806219
What is fucking you up is how the image is cropped.

>>3805672
perspective and anatomy are totally fucked up, colors are pretty tho

>>3806219
Why is /if/ so full of retard crabs?

>>3806265
>/if/
Is that on 6+2chan?

>>3806264
Redline it fucking retard, go ahead.

>>3806134
>>3806206
Ruan Jia has explored every facet of realistic painting and has completely mastered it to the point that it is now boring to him and so now he must break the rules and do his own thing. Just like Picasso.

>>3806272
if you have a hard time seeing it, just think, if the feet are that much smaller than the head, what are the implications for the landscape

>>3806212
>No, it's correct. I'm not at pc right now but just build a 3 point perspective grid and put a bound box around her, you will see it's rig
The absolute state of /ic/. Check your fucking eyes.

>>3805672
krenz did the same piece like a year ago and his was actually appealing

>>3806272

>>3806054
If the first thing you do when someone posts something of this quality is nitpick every little detail, then I'd qualify it as jealousy/envy

>>3806284
Damn now THAT is fucking appealing

>>3805672
The hair looks like it's made out of plastic

>>3806285
Lol you made it better.

>>3806285
there it is

Nice sketchbook

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hX_cIzpiluY

>>3805672
Both the perspective and color/light on the figure vs backround makes it look like she is pasted on the scene after being painted separately. she is suppose to be in shadow but it's not believable.
Why do Ruan jia cucks glorify him so much. Yes he is better than all of ic but he is not one of the best concept artists out there.

>>3806285
not only did you break and ruin the perspective on her, but you also ruined the composition.

>>3806284
based krenz

>>3806240
FIXED

>>3806334
no

FIXED2

>>3806346
>/ic/ knows more about rearranging compositions and using the lasso tool than actually creating a work of art.

>>3806362
was meant for >>3806358

>>3806362
>>3806363
I didn't use lasso tool

>>3805672
i wanna try too

>>3806389
You made it worse. This is what happens when you blindly follow youtube tutorials.

>>3806362
that's all they can do anon

>>3806396
what youtube tuts senpai? so i can avoid them

>>3806256
>>3806256
these 4 brushes?

>>3805672
he deosn't know edge control to push depth.

does this man have no understanding of perspective at anything more than the concept art level? how can you mess up a forshortened form this bad

>>3806434
>>3806432

>>3806437

>>3805672
>this thread
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-50NdPawLVY&t=45s

>>3806408
It's not about any particular ones, you just should think of what you're doing in every particular situation. They talk so much about atmospheric perspective that's it's easy to start using it everywhere without thinking, as a tool similar to linear perspective. Of course, atmopheric perspective always works (as long as there's atmosphere), but its strength depends on the weather (and on the artist's intent). Sometimes making the air very clear can have a great effect. In this painting the girl is not supposed to be the main focus of attention. She will draw attention anyway, by just being there, by having her eye visible, by performing an action. There's no need to make her stand out more with atmospheric perspective. Saturated greens on the other hand make the landscape stand more prominent.

>>3805672
bitch look like she be on a green screen and shit

>>3806448
exactly since they are both fighting for the focus of attention, atmospheric persp help define the girl as the main focus.
If not, what's the focus of this piece?

>>3806453
They aren't fighting for attention, the first thing you will look at is the court of the castle, then the girl, her eagle and her raised hand in particular, then the rest of her. Here >>3806389 she grabs all the attention, but she's not supposed to.

>>3806462
>she's not supposed to.
okay ruan ruan

>>3806437

>>3806429
>>3806256
pls link?

>>3806473
Which post is yours >>3806432>>3806434?

>>3806449
Bingo!

>>3806468
Keep drawing your stupid anime girls, composition is not for you.

>>3806486
count on it

>>3805672
I really like the background and the girl
but they look like two different pictures mashed together
it feels awkward

>>3806495
god this is terrible. wtf learn to animate.

fixed it.

its funny how over rated this dude is. there are so many thing wrong with this painting. starting composition. and its sad how /ic has to fix his shit every time.

>>3806526
He's just experimenting and it's interesting, yours edits don't look bad but it's just boring.

>>3805672
photobashing

>>3806526
You just took another dude's edit and made it blue and desaturated with your meme atmospheric perspective.

>>3806536
yeah but there's literally nothing wrong with photobashing, retard

>>3806540
Yeah when your fav eceleb does it and you need to defend them for no reason.

>>3806540
Plus that's not even photobashing.

>>3806536
>>3806543
OPs picture isn't photobash are you fucking retarded?

>>3806477
second this

>>3806285
Unironically better

>>3806526
No. The focal point is the background, not the girl

ITT
>changing something into literally the same thing over and over and complimenting each other on how much they improved it

>>3805932
Jealusy is what pushes people forward

>>3806556
this guys gets it

>>3806577
Jealousy is what holds you back.

>>3806556
well you failed or he failed. because my eyes are more focused on that jewelry.

>>3806586
A healthy dose mades you realise that you’re not at the top. If you have nothing to compare to, you become complacent and your progression reaches a plateau

>>3806477
>>3806546
yeah sure dude here

>>3806589
To me it looks like this city design that you should be looking at but you can't help look at the girl as well. Maybe that's the point, the artist knows what he's doing and he could easily make one or the other the obvious focal point but he chooses not to. It's not a mistake I know that much.

>>3806596
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>3806596

>long picture

>>3806526
Ruined, looks boring when the buildings and grass don't pop

>>3806604
>RuInEd

>>3806591
Jealousy and envy are emotions more akin to being angry, fearful , and other insecurities which ultimately cloud your mind and judgement which is in no way conducive to the learning process of art. But appreciating what one creates and wanting to figure out why it works and how you can incorporate it into your own work is much different.

>>3805672
Can I draw like this with a regular pen and paper? Is the giant resolution really such a big part of his work? If I tried copying it it'd look like the city is just a few small doodled boxes

>>3806652
this is an excellent question

I think it is possible, symbol drawing?

>>3806285
a little better, but the painting is just bad overall. It's looks like two random images smashed together. There's no relationship between any of the objects, no focal point, nothing.

>>3806284, though a bit generic, is a good example of good composition, color, contrast, etc.

>>3806583
My eyes are bleeding

>>3805672
Something about the perspective looks off. Like the walls on the castle in the background should have a more lower eye view.

>>3805672
looks really bad

>>3806332
He is literally one of the best concept artists out there at least because he has his own distinct style that isn't a result of a fucking crutch.
In addition to that most concept artists specialise in character art, environment art or fucking photobash to hell and back.
You are overestimating how good most concept artists are.

>>3806726
Hello anime loving incel

>>3806762
heyy

>>3806760
not that guy, but - no

People severely misunderstand what a concept artist is - Ruan Jia is an illustrator, he is a very poor designer, many of his designs dont seem designed or thought out, or intruiguing from a narrative/ world building point of view, which is what most concept artists actually help with working on a game or film, apart from the people like him who do sexy splash art for loading screens.

A lot of these paintings hes making are completely devoid of narrative and concept, and are very rendered visual spectacles, that dont have a lifespan beyond the appreciation for the rendering of the vibration of the colors.

He is very good at painting, and navigating contrast, but he uses his skills very poorly from a narrative and poetic point of view.

He is basically a person with very articulate language, full of colourful words - who knows grammar very well, but who couldnt write a captivating heartfelt poem if his life depended on it.

>>3805672
ALERT!
ALERT!
ALERT!
NEW RUAN JIA!
NEW RUAN JIA!
I REPEAT
ITS BAD
ITS BAD
ITS BAD
ALERT ALERT ALERT
HES OVER RATED STFU

>>3806073
>he said so it must be true
gulible

>>3806440
ruan jia is GONE

>>3806833
Yeah what a dumb ass believing what someone says, bet that sneaky artist just wants to throw us off his super secret resolution.

No mental illness here, hiding what resolution you work at makes perfect sense

>>3806134
It's okay he just likes thicc butt halfdwarf halfelf boys now

>>3806838
it does

>>3806712
i think you have ebola, anon.

>>3805672
wonder what it would look like if the girl was also light and vibrant

>>3806842
How does it make sense?

It'll take a lot more than knowing someones resolution for you to get close to being able to make art of that level

>>3806771
this x1000
and it always amazes me how many anons don't know the difference between illustration, graphic design, and concept art.

never change /ic/

>>3806771
>Ruan Jia is an illustrator
nope, literally says hes a concept artist in his artstation bio. and he has down a lot of concept art if you ever cared to look at his THU and any of his previous paintings

>>3806910
You should never read walls of text in /ic/, Good artists don't post them. Hell they don't post here at all.

>>3806910
>doesn't know the difference between illustration and design.
his artstation page is filled of nothing but illustrations

post link to his design work

>>3807090
Lol, you probably think this is an illustration.

>>3807115
>The proportions of the lower limbs
Ruan Jia n-no!

>>3807115
>>3807117
>>3805672
I'm seeing a reoccuring theme here - what's Ruans deal with legs? Why does he make them so dis-proportionally small?

>>3807115
>Fingers and nails from an old lady's corpse

>>3807129
>>3807130
damn ic is salty

>>3806526
>>3806285


>what is fisheye lens

also let's abuse atmospheric perspective

>>3805932
>wahhh people aren't sucking this artist I like off at all times so they should be tortured in the cruelest ways imaginable because I literally can't handle people not conforming to this arbitrary mold I've created on what is an "acceptable" opinion
The absolute state of this anon lol.

>>3805672
This character doesn't look like they occupy the same space as the background, almost like they were cropped out of another image and placed over this one. Something about the lighting doesn't seem to look right here.

>>3807172
They are literal brainlets
Ignore the crabs

>>3807245
You are literally projecting your insecurities.
It's very clear that /ic/ is crying about a guy that they can barely approach in skill level, in addition to they there are very few people in digital art that can render like that at all.

>>3807247
Because the forefront is in a giant shadow while the background is in the light.
There is also a fish eye perspective going on but people have issues with it because it's cropped from sides so there is little visual information about it other than her own distortion.

>>3807251
>You are literally projecting your insecurities.
No, I'm pointing out what a massive faggot you're being over someone criticizing Ruan Jia's art like some kind of pathetic whiteknight. Protip: not everyone is going to like the thing you like as much as you do and the sooner you can accept this fact, the less likely you'll chimp out at any criticism about it.
>It's very clear that /ic/ is crying about a guy that they can barely approach in skill level, in addition to they there are very few people in digital art that can render like that at all.
There are crabs on this board undoubtedly but not once did I ever mention being able to do better than him, or that he's even a shit artist, you fucking retard. Sounds to me like you're the one projecting anger and insecurity here.

>>3805672
are we done masturbating, guys?

>>3807267
is this done in mspaint?
if this is by you whats your blog? i like it actually

>>3807115
by your standard, every tumblr artist who posts a painting of their OC in the same pose is also a concept artist

>>3805672
>a fucking daz model

>>3807413
It's a SiR (aka the king of /fit/) piece

>>3806915
i posted the wall of text, and i usually lurk - i work with animation and previs :-)

and no, i will not post my work.

>>3807115
This is a very poor generic design, with the elements haphazardly thrown together, what kind of character is this even?

So ornamented armor and a blaster from star wars, with kitty ears and blue hair, like none of these elements are really harmonised with eachother, and the face is super generic and cutesy - i have no sense of the world this character belongs to, other than it apparently contains everything generic.

>>3806910
Still an illustrator, sure he does splash art, and environment paintings for a game like guildwars etc- which are really good, again, im not saying this guy is a bad painter, im just saying hes not a good designer :-) and to be a concept artist, which really should be called concept designer - means that you have a good sense of design, and worldbuilding.

He is really good at illustrating, not really designing or building narratives.

Come on man you know this is true, you can find tons of things on artstation with better designs and narratives than ruan jias stuff?

Its not even out there to think this way.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWzeB44LQxY

>>3807441
It would fit really well in a gintama like world.
But you just don't have much imagination :^)

>>3807486
just googled that - you have trash taste :^)

>>3807619
Saw this post - wtf cringe lol o_o

>>3807430
No? By my standard everyone who is employed as a conept artist is a concept artist.

>>3807441
Now, I'm glad that we have an art directior here, but what you're saying is that it's a shit concept, not that it's not concept art. Ruan Jia is a concept artist, good or bad doesn't matter now, and that picture is not an illustration.

>>3807635
sure - ill give you that, its a piece showcasing "design" more than it is illustrative - but that really goes for a low-percentage of his work. and most of his "design" is really just an excuse to play with illustrative tools and to paint, not to show a design but to have something to render.

>>3805699
yeah doesn't make sense that people on here don't understand that even pros have weak points. You can't actually be good at everything. There are no masters in this day in age, just highly skilled pros and /ic/ frauds.

I honestly think his landscapes and backgrounds are gorgeous, I just don’t understand why he renders human skin that way, it’s offputting to me. it makes his human characters look like cheap 3D models straight out of an early ps3 game. he’s obviously very skilled but I just don’t get his aesthetic choices.

>>3807768
I like them, it's hard to explain
His art has vibes like Asian dolls or something

>>3806706
I loled so hard reading your reply because you're such an OBVIOUS envy fox.
Post your art.

>>3806285
your is inherently worse for not including the feet

>>3807619
just accept you were wrong senpai

>>3807619
anime = trash

>>3808151
no, but the particular one he mentioned looked awful.

There is plenty of well made anime, and well made anime feature films.

>>3808044
broaden your horizons, go look at trees, explore the abstract microcosm of the world around you, where textures and patterns turn into paintings, where a coffee stain becomes an idea for a drawing.

>>3808168
>where a coffee stain becomes an idea for a drawing
>literal trash

>>3808168

Stop Watching Anime

>>3808583
I watch all kinds of animation - i am an animation director, i am not bogged down by what people perceive anime at large as, as i would neither be with european or american animation - simply moving images with a narrative, some of it cliche, ugly, boring - others well thought out and poetic, with interesting visual choices.

>>3808519
Trash is more inspiring than the trash you are watching.

>>3805672

Post your favorite Ruan Jia painting

>>3807750
lol, there are unquestionably people who excel at most things and are atleast good at everything.

How about you point me to some intense dynamic angles from Leonardo or Raphael? Oh wait you cant.

The masters of today are far better than those of before because unlike those masters who had to spend time just inventing these methods we now take for granted, pros today can simply lean on aquired knowledge and further improve what already exists. There exists more talented artists per capita today than any time in history, so you'll definately have more living masters today than before.

>>3809040
strange angles and wide angle perspective werent a meme back then, they probably came around because of photography.
but yeah i agree. there are way more good artists now, way more bad artists aswell

>>3809040
And Michael Angelo altered proportions based on where the viewer would be standing. To say they're not better than the artists of today because you say they didnt draw warped some dynamic warped perspective is asinine to say the least. Masters of the past were incredible at foreshortening and could do whats being done today. There is very little differentiating the masters of the past from today, to the point where it becomes subjective of who is better than who. Furthermore you're comparing Apple's to oranges, fine art to more commercial works if fisheye is really what you consider to be the defining factor.

>>3807750
>There are no masters in this day in age
what's your idea of a master in todays age?

>>3809003
This one, he unironicly got worse and worse since he made that one, it is a cursed painting that drained his magic. I have it hanging on my wall.

>>3806477
>>3806546

https://aminoapps.com/c/art/page/blog/psd-brushes/Pkhm_uNkjx8aWbBg8RkdM2RZoWRPkX

>>3808594
/beg/ please, don't embarrass yourself, read some Gurney.

>>3805672
Don't much care for the way its rendered/painted but I love the structure here, the monolithic white limestone walls and towers topped with bright green grass and the deep blue sky above gives a comfy feeling as well as a good sense of scale, it's aesthetic as fuck

This is a place I'd love to explore. The only bit that feels jarringly out of place is in the center courtyard, and those eastern style buildings and elements but I imagine its some formerly abandoned ancient stronghold rediscovered by a different culture who make it their home and that's what the ruins strewn about are implying too

>>3806346
Fuck, nice.

Pic related is what it reminds me of also, imagine the steep cliff walls clad in white limestone

>>3808592
whataver gets you through the night honey

>>3809890
runa jia is the only one missing lol

>>3809040
>There exists more talented artists per capita today than any time in history, so you'll definately have more living masters today than before
Nonsense, quality and quantity don't have a direct correlation.
Find me one living artist that's half as good as Bouguerau, Zorn, Waterhouse, Sargent or Repin. Art quality peaked in 19th century, then photography took root, post modernism became a thing and from there it all went downhill.

>>3809040
>There exists more talented artists per capita today than any time in history

When everyone is good, good becomes the new average.

>There exists more talented artists per capita today than any time in history

>>3810259
:^)

Good luck.

does anybody have his brushes?

/ic/ still worships this gook? Some things never change.

>>3811566

HARD ROUND

I swear all this perspective and composition shit is a meme. Just looking a the same picture twice and sayijng hurr durr its too wide or oh gee I cant enjoy this because ANGLES
just shut up its just a picture literally who cares if the acuteness of the golden fov doesnt textbook your art eye

>>3811566
>>3806596

so can people tell me whats wrong with this?

it looks wrong to me but i'm too /beg/ to know what it is. is the perspective off?

>>3806334
you need to relearn perspective

map out the perspective on her feet, and then the perspective on the structures in the distance.

why do people like you just make shit up. hurrdurr you ruined the perspective. shut up idiot.

>>3811703
this

>>3806285
Where dem Atmosphere at boi?

Still about 4 years ahead of me so that prohibits me from criticizing it.

>>3811843
you dont know basic perspective, go learn it.

>>3807267
I think I'm done masturbating forever.

>>3806526
Holy shit, I want to take you out back and put two in the back of your head..
Lemme guess you're a freelance concept artist?

>>3806286
it's fun to analyze and criticize art, dear no talent low life incel