/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

were back in business

>>3805744

>>3805745
Holy shit did you draw this?? I remember fapping to this pic ages ago, and it still holds up.

>>3805747
nah bro, none are mine, just found them

I am not the draw police tho, I do trace too from time to time and I do see its value, regardless if this was traced or not, maybe t was just heavily referenced

>>3805709
you're getting better, fag.

>>3805744
>>3805745
How will vu ever recover?

>>3805749
It's definitely not traced. there's so many artists out there and so many pics that two are bound to look similar. It could be refed, but I dunno. It's different looking enough that it doesn't matter.

>>3805761
leave vu alone! I don't care to use ref/trace, but there's nothin wrong with it. Even the japanese masters do it.

>>3805577
wtf is going on with the op image?

>>3805758
thx anon. I'm doing it slowly but surely

>>3805780

>>3805749
it isnt either, thats an incredibly common pose that happens to hit all the right buttons for people, which is why a lot will come up with the same thing independently. There are really only so many pinup poses out there

Cleaner than my usual stuff but got lazy with the hair

>>3805790
I'm not into that gay shit, but this reminds me of Joel Jurion.

>>3805744
ever since that one anon in the last thread pointed out that the hands look like feet..I just can not unsee that now.
Take my "fix" as a new concept. Maybe have her arms spread out.I say study more hands and arms because somehting about them in your pic feels more like legs than arms.(its ok i gotta study them too)
(optional but i slightly put pink over your ear to hint that the hair color is covering it)

>>3805839
also yeah i know its messy
I just wanted to mess around with this drawing with my mouse

>>3805839
but anon, the hands are feet with opposable thumbs, 90 degrees clockwise rotation and weaker musculature for they dont sustain all day the weight of the body

>>3805763
I get a little jealous sometimes about how the japanese have so many good reference pose books available to them. They can get poses about random subject matters in any angle.

At least the art book thread helped me get access to a lot of these books too.

>>3805867
anon i get that feet and hands have their similarity
but they also have their difference in appearances
Then again i'm still learning hands so i'm up for anything new

>>3805577
OP pic is 10/10!

>>3805780
I saw you on newgrounds yesterday

I wonder what's the lewd-amano-guy up to.

What fetish are you anons practicing for? This is my current one.

>>3805950
Instant loss.

>>3805956
Instant loss or mating press?

>>3805960
Instant loss. Mating press is okay but it's not really my bag.

>>3805964
Mating press is hot but when drawing it is always similar to something like this.

>>3805577
hello weebz

PORNOISE THIS PLS

>>3805763
Tracing a photo is one thing
Tracing another trace/an OC is laughable

>>3805763
>ref/trace
You can't just combine these concepts like they're the same thing. One is looking at something to understand how to make it. The other is just mindlessly copying it directly onto your own work.

>>3806318
>[tracing] is just mindlessly copying it directly onto your own work.
maybe for you if you shut off your brain, why would you do that only god knows

I love how the thread has turned into a discussion about whether or not a bad drawing was traced.

>>3806355
your previous work shows that youre plenty good enough to not need to trace. As for reference who even fucking cares, nobody is above using them and /ic/ needs to get over that

>>3805780
So like is Firn a self-insert/ideal you? Or is it that you want someone like Firn to fuck you?

>>3805780
You are the hero /ic/ deserves.

>>3805744
4x feet

I'm feeling like shit, this was supposed to be a nude pic with his dick hanging out, but then a friend told me he looked like a disney princess for some reason and I sorta gave up, I should go back to /beg/ already.

>>3805792
i think its really is him.

>>3806618
Poor thing has lumbar issues.

>>3806618
you can say that only if you watch at this thumbnail from a mile away without your glasses.
he's a JJ ripoff that draws little kids with big cocks. wasted potential.

>>3806620

You know that people can arch their backs to stick out their asses without it being a posture problem, right? By the way it's a mammalian behavior called presenting and not just a human thing

>>3806618
I’m nowhere near jj. I don’t have anywhere near the control of forms in faces that he does but I’m trying to create a style of my own.

>>3806751
Nonsense, youre not too far off from jj. Gimmie a blog so I can follow.

>>3806751
be honest: are you really trying to emulate the look of children or is it just a high influence of cutesy big anime heads

your work is really blurring the line here

>>3806761
>worried western normalfag starts an inquisition for the 5425th time

>>3806761
>Reaching this bad

>>3806761
he's always been drawing this kind of pedo shit.
talks about wanting to develop a style, but he's just a dickbrain catering to his own sick kink.

every single thread. What are your fetishes, what is it that you like?

>>3805790
>>3806751
I remember you nuked the old blog (for understandble reasons), have you made a new one yet?

>>3806751
>nowhere near
your'e right, it's twice as good
now link your damn twitter.

>>3806858
why'd he nuke it

Any tips or guides on drawing good looking white liquid?

>>3806765
>>3806769
>pedos instantly up in arms
like clockwork

>>3806928
>Shad's mommy porn

>>3806858
He has a twitter, it's mostly SFW stuff, and all very very good

>>3806928

tried a bit more ambitious pose. light me up senpai.

>>3807006
Cute and appealing

>>3807006
fucking cute

>>3806761
>cartoons are dangerous

>>3805577
>my futanari question made it to the OP
Wasn't expecting such an innocent question to turn this place on its head

>>3806424
neither really, he's a character from a story i have planned and he's in a position i could theoritically justify him interacting with all my friends oc's, i'm white and have a nose closer to thane, so that's be the closer to a 'self insert' but i try not to do that

>>3807210
>>3807211

>>3807211

Her(?) back is fucking broken, mate.

>>3807211
It is extremely fascinating how little you improve. I'm not even mad, just intrigued.

Why do people draw things other than porn?

>>3807210
>i'm white and have a nose closer to thane
All your characters have the exact same face.

>>3807293
because they're disgusting perverts who get off to non-lewd things

this: >>3806182 pls

>>3806182
>>3807396
Stop begging for free art, autismo.
Requests are against the rules of the board.

>>3807399
no one is pay for art anymore

>>3806758
>>3806858
>>3806869

Thanks. Sfw is @ohheythatfisher, nsfw is @Lambrey3. I can’t guarantee I won’t someday nuke the nsfw one again but my clean stuff should be safe

>>3807805
Fantastic bait.

>>3807852
Wait ... I do know you I think I was following you on your old account. Any reason why you nuked it?

>>3807852
you draw the cutest dicks anon

>>3807852
Soulless

>>3805780
requesting Andrew Loomis raping the ever loving shit out of nigger Goblino, pulling his head down and smashing his face onto the beginnings of the "Fun with a Pencil" pages; with his face crying in pain and burning from the holy pages like a demon. His tutorial heads also help to gangbang the creature with the blue fundamental sphere (its next to loomis on the ref) cutting off his testicle tumors. Feel free to guro all you can.

I'd like to start selling my artistic services in NSFW drawing. Would you guys buy anything in this style?

>>3807852
You should just make a pixiv instead of using a twitter that you will nuke soon or later to store your stuff.

>>3808092
what's your price range? have any more dynamic pieces you could show off? from what I'm seeing right now I'd pay no more than $20, but I'm assuming this isn't the best you can do.

>>3805964
What’s the difference? I’ve been looking for something to scratch my mating press itch.

>>3808123
here's a more dynamic piece, and the only other nsfw drawing I have. Let me know if you wanna see any sfw pieces.

Here are my rates.

Sketch (no colour):
Head shot sketch - $4 (add character for $2)
Torso sketch - $8 (add character for $4)
Full body sketch $10 (add character for $5)

Flat Cartoon Drawing:
Head shot - $8 (add character for $4)
Torso drawing - $12 (add character for $8)
Full body - $15 (add character for $10)
(backdrop fees vary)

Detailed Cartoon Drawing:
Head shot - $15 (add character for $8)
Torso drawing - $25 (add character for $10)
Full body drawing - $35 (add character for $20)
(backdrop fees vary)

Full Detailed "Realistic" piece:
Head shot - $50 (add character for $45)
Torso drawing - $70 (add character for $65)
Full body drawing - $100 (add character for $90)
(backdrop fees vary)

(Please discuss subject matter, objects, or NSFW content as these things will affect the price in varying ways.)

>>3808177
Much better piece. Prices are fair, probably a bit low, considering your style is pretty well developed, your lines are clean, and your color choice is good. I'll say that if this is all that you have in terms of nsfw, you should do a few more pieces that are more graphic (penetration, exposed genitalia, etc.) to showcase what exactly it is you are (and aren't) capable of. It's clear you have some weaknesses, but they're not so glaring that they can't be ignored. just keep grinding fundamentals and I'm sure you'll be fine.

tldr; yeah people will buy it, but expand your portfolio and grind fundamentals.

>>3808196
Thanks for the feedback friend, i appreciate it

What's the best resource on learning how to draw dynamic figures? I thought I'd ask here since there's a lot of interesting and dynamic poses used in porn art.
Pic related is from Atmosphere's sketchbook.

>>3808177
Could you show me what a full body realistic piece looks like?

>>3808092
she looks like shes about to vomit

>>3808330
gesture drawings from life, you can look up videos of people dancing, fucking, playing sports, and just do gestures from those if you don't want to go outside. The point being you wanna get a feel of what people look like in motion, from several different angles. You'll naturally get an idea of how the body "flows" with enough practice. and keep an anatomy reference by your side, always. I use pic related.

>>3808330
Force: dynamic drawing for animators, by Michael Mattesi. It's in the big sticky and in the general resources pastebin from the anime study thread.

Here my stuff, dudes...

>>3807852
Can you explain how you pick color, anon? How did you come up with that palette?

Gonna post some stuff, want feedback pls

>>3808437

>>3808438

>>3808440
>>3808438
>>3808437
Chicken scratch city, my eyes hurt

>>3808447
Not crit. its a sketchbook you moron

>>3808463

> want feedback
> it's just a scratch book don't crit

ngmi, ngmi never changes

>>3808463
Even with unfinished work it's important to practice good linework. Try to accomplish things in as few lines as possible. Nude stuff generally looks best when things are clean and simple, especially big curves like thighs, breasts, butts etc.

>>3808463
>crit
Chicken scratch = your lines are awful = work on your line confidence, clearly you understood since you were so ass blasted

>sketchbook
It’s called a sketchbook, not a chicken scratchbook

>>3808177
these are terrible prices anon. undercutting like this will only get you shit tier clients and tons of chargebacks. if you ask for fast food prices you'll get treated like you work in fast food. charging anything lower than 20 for anything is just asking for pain.

:^)

Critique is welcome

>>3808651
At first glance it's ok but at second it's not. There's a lot of shading missing on her torso; the bottom of the ribcage and the abdominal muscles always show up. The leg anatomy is bad and the linework is unsteady.
Go drill lines and anatomy for a while. then start studying the shading on figures.

>>3808660
Thx very much, how about this one?

>>3808666
thats cute. blog?

>>3808663
Could look ok in grayscale but your color theory is bad. Youtube some color videos, within less than an hour you'll seriously broaden your understanding. Also try colorpicking from artists you like.

>>3808666
Nice style.

>>3807852
>I can’t guarantee I won’t someday nuke the nsfw one again
Why won't people stop doing this. Make a pixiv like that other anon suggested then, please.

>>3808477
I dont want feed back on lines. My main art is digital, i have full manipulation of lines in that medium. I wanna get form and anatomy right

>>3808948
It either happens when someone finds their nsfw account name, or they get a real job and don’t want people to find it

>>3808675
Google "bbc chan". Currently twitter is my main hub.
>>3808801
Thanks.

>>3806796
Armpits, muscle girls, defloration, and musclegirls with nice armpits losing their virginity to twinks.

>>3805577
WIP on an TT animation(Blackfire and Beast Boy)

>>3809019
You're gonna save yourself a lot of time working with digital if you're not constantly cleaning up scratchy, undisciplined lines.
If you don't work on that shit then you won't have the time to beat the grind.

>>3809348
nnnnnice!

eeeh

>>3809528
hot

>>3809597
thanks
>>3809528
In that case, here's a colour wip. Lost sight weather or not it's appealing, would like some thoughts.

>>3809602
off to sleep i go. shout out to my est boiz

>>3805744
/beg/ take on this

>>3809348
Handjobs are underrated.

>>3809370
So is Advance Wars.

please ignore this post.

>>3810063
like saying "ignore the turd you just stepped into"

>>3810063
Thanks for reposting it, Anon

>>3809348
>dick twice as thicc as legs
ok

>>3810103
In fairness, he's emulating the cartoony and exaggerated style of the source material, and the character in question can shapeshift into animals, seemingly changing size and mass at will, so I'll buy that he could present a cock that's ludicrously gigantic.

Or maybe whatever species he's supposed to be is crazy well hung naturally.

What's your go-to for genital references?

>>3810118
judging by the belt hes robin, robin is a teenage human. how he hides that thing in his pants must be his superpower

>>3810171
Oh, that's right. I guess that's why he's named Dick

>>3808666
What is up with those feet and hands? God damn, your work's getting worse.

You're so burnt out on your own work you don't even give a shit about it anymore. Priceless.

>>3810375
>feet aren't even visible
Go away crabbyanon

>>3810379
What is it with you snowflakes and your inability to see what's wrong with a picture, purely because it's drawn by someone whom you think, cares about your opinion. In all honesty, it's nice to see beginner mistakes rubbing on your idols who care package their art here. lol

>>3805782
>>3805782
like this show

>>3810394
excess masturbation causes blindness anon

>>3810171
Artist here, its Beast Boy. Its a bit unclear atm, but itll be more clear in later drafts

>>3809348

blog/gallery?

>>3810375
I like to deform stuff in order to make it more interesting. I do this all the time more and more. In the past all my stuff was much more sterile and beginner like (obsessing over anatomy instead of improving abstraction within the style and abstraction of gesture dynamics), so I guess you are just stuck in that more beginner phase. Some day you'll probably notice it too. You just need to develop artistically.
That was referring to that hand. Not sure what's rustling your jimmies when it comes to the feet since they aren't showing.
Btw, I think my feet and hands game is one of my best assets. Feel free to redline obviously.

>>3809709
Cheers. Might grind some perspective and gesture. Hate drawing awkward cringe shit.

>>3810609
Try sitting on the ground like that with your feet out sideways and hands miles away like that and tell me its possible.

>>3810528
the problem with the feet is that there's no room for them to actually exist at the right size unless the calves are fucked up. it's subtle & the fix is easy but it undeniably harms the final image.

>>3810621
anon broke both her ankles first, it's a lowkey guro pic

>>3810621
>>3810629
just did it, it's possible. Have a brittany pic

>>3810621
the hands are too far back granted

>>3810621
So why did you draw the shadow of the tail down on the ground and expect everyone looking at this drawing to imagine there are no feet?

Can I use my imagination and pretend that the legs are chopped off at the shins and she's walking around with nothing but nubs?

>>3810628
She's supposed to be small and I decided to make her legs so short intentionally.

>>3810643
Britanny's feet are angled back, yours are at a 90 degree angle.

Have a crit.

>>3810648
So is her left shin smaller, too? What about her ankles?

And why is her right hand shaped like a claw?

>>3810648
then make them proportional.

>>3810648
Why does her left hand have sharp fingers?

>>3810649
You can angle them flat, bottom of hips, ankle and big toe hit the ground. But if it looks wrong it's wrong.

>>3810675
It's wrong.

>>3810653
>>3810647
I like how it looks and don't see the need to change the length of her lower legs because imo it's not a major issue.
I see the mistake now tho and I agree with you.
It's such a minor thing that I don't think it's worth addressing tho, cause I don't think it ruins the image.
Hands are imo an even lesser problem.

>>3810643
>knees together nt spread
>hands in lap not flat behind.
>leaning forward not back.
>feet pointed back not out sideways

When you lean forward with your knees together like this your ENTIRE leg rotates which makes it possible for the feet to SLIGHTLY roll outwards. You cant really have your knees touching the ground and your feet on a ninety degree angle they don’t really rotate like that.

NICE TRY THOUGH RETARD

>>3810680
But what about her ankles, where are they? And shouldn't her left foot be out farther than you redlined it? Now it looks like her whole left leg is out of proportion with her entire body. How do you explain that?

>>3810680
Ups, wrong image.

>>3810681
Cool post but I can do it, or is reality wrong?

>>3810682
Ankles (stumpy legs) are a style choice. I think they look cute for how the character looks.
>Now it looks like her whole left leg is out of proportion with her entire body. How do you explain that?
Small perspective mistake not worth addressing I guess. Especially cause I still don't see a problem with it, even after you mentioned it.

>>3810683
So, explain why you drew sharp angles for fingers and not actual fingers. I thought you said you had the best hand and feet game when it came to your work?

>>3810685
But it's a perspective flaw, nonetheless.Thanks for admitting to that.

>>3810685
Are you substituting style over correct anatomy?

>>3810684
You say that but I highly doubt it. Post pics.

>>3810686
Because I think they look cool like that. Very simple, anon.
And I still think that, yes.

I see what you are trying to say, but what you are saying is really irrelevant in this particular picture. The whole style is so simplified that a lot of the anatomy is drawn in almost a chibi style. The hands and legs were completely simplified here. And not because I'm unable to draw more realistic hands or feet. It's just a style choice in this case.

>>3810689
Pretty much, yeah.

>>3810692
Hahahha absolutely not posting pics of myself to ic. Anyway learnt that the pose looks jank today.

>>3810693
But can you be wrong? Fingers shouldn't look like that even with a "chibi" drawing. Do you know what a chibi-style drawing looks like?

>>3810697
Who cares, blur face.

>>3810696
So it's safe to assume that BBC-Chan would much rather choose style, over drawing an anatomically correct drawing?

>>3810688
That's never been an issue for me.
Most of my stuff is flawed. And hearing second opinions about stuff is always good. That's why I'm posting here.

>>3810703
Oh, definitely. I always pick style over realism.
Expressiveness and dynamism >>>>>>>>>> realistic anatomy.
I would say my main focus in all the stuff I draw are sense of presence (depth and perspective), and dynamic gesture.
Then afterwards character expressions and interaction between characters.
Then all the rest I guess.

>>3810705
So you've never had a problem with perspective? Seems like you do, still, with the drawing you posted.

>>3810707
So why the sharp fingers?

>>3810707
Isn't admitting to style over anatomical correction a big problem with amateur and beginner artists?

>>3810708
Of course I had problems with perspective. Nowadays not so much. But it's obviously a hit and miss thing sometimes.
>>3810710
It's just stylized like that to give it some character. I think you are obsessing over that a bit too much lol.

Can you now please drop the 3rd degree shit you guys are doing? You are pretty creepy.

>>3810713
I have no idea. I just know that I gave much more importance to realism in the past, but then when I decided to be a professional, I realized:

1. Realism is overrated and how expressive your own style is is much more important
2. Realism is not appealing for what I draw (smut)
3. Realism takes too much time

And probably there's more cons, but those came to mind.

>>3810700
Nah, need to draw. Dream is to trigger ic with stylistic choices like bbcchan rather than my shitty perspective and anatomy.

>>3810722
But what classifies you as a professional?

1. Most beginners have that mentality.
2. So you're trying to draw stylistic smut? Can you show me some examples?
3. Most professionals find the time, don't you think?

>>3810726
The only one triggered is you, defending your mistakes like you are. lol

>>3810739
ok

>>3810737
if you get profit from your work you are professional that's it. has nothing to do with skill is just money profits.

>>3810737
I'm not going to keep answering to your overly obsessive questions, sorry anon.
I know what you are trying to do. Maybe stop focusing on me and post some art instead? I'm sure it will do you more good.

Roughing everything in. Thoughts?

>>3810737

artist?

>>3810737
you can't break someone out of a scrub mentality anon no matter how much autism you throw at them. the only thing you can do is just draw better

>>3810793
oda non

>>3810800
Big words, probably coming from someone that has never experienced being a professional artist first hand, right?
Show me one of your sketches drawn in under 2 hours. Put the money where your mouth is. I dare you.

>>3810787
none whatsoever

hi

>>3810909
Why would you draw and polish such a turd? Do you not have eyes?

>>3810916
wut

>>3810909
Did you even use a reference and do a decent preliminary drawing?

Wait don’t bother answering because I can tell you didnt. That thing is flat and has confused dimensions due to it.

>>3810927
it's a new pose i tried. i used a reference but still just couldn't get it right :/

i finished it anyway because i had very bad art block and spent too long on it to really want to delete it

>>3810931
Post reference and sketch.

>>3810931
Anon... I...

>>3810941
i don't download reference and i overwrite the sketch so i have neither :/

the draw is from like a week ago and i purged all .sai files

i google lewd pose and found the ref on some external site

>>3810944

i... need to flip the canvas more o_o

>>3808177
If you made something cleaner, it would help. Something clean with that kind of style on the low end is a good $35-45 in internet commission land for a full body. So you're good on the price there. Don't offer too many options though. Also, don't offer sketches, at especially that low of a price point unless someone asks explicitly. It isn't the best thing to display for yourself on social media.
Also, it may be better to instead offer "thighs up/half body" commissions. You can offer a greater variety of poses. A torso with the limbs cut off is really just a bust.
>>3808479
The shittiest and most entitled people are the cheapest. At under $20, you'll get a lot of terrible fetish crap.

>>3805577
Please bully me until I'm GMI

posting wip
dreading line art
gib critiques

>>3811005
There’s so much that could be improved but what’s with the dudes hand being sideways?

Aside from my scratchy lines- what am I doing wrong here? My posture doesn't convey lying down at all.

>>3811025
More bad doodles

>>3811027
Drawovers would be appreciated

trying to improve mapping my shadows. Any decent resources I should look at?

>>3810519
https://twitter.com/Ionk23437724

Here you go fren!

>>3810787
>L2R or R2L? top three panels look like it's L2R and bottom two look like R2L (with ON AIR sign as establishing shot)

going L2R:
#1: there is something wrong with perspective, from what I've checked, in FOV with my eyes as viewing apparatus(duh, right?) when I lay my hands on a desk they take about 1/5~1/6 of vertical space from horizon down
#2: if she shifted back in her sit, her left hand would probably be resting on desk, I would change hand gesture of right hand too, unless she's holding something
#3: given that his and previous shot are from pretty much same perspective face proportions seem inconsistent
#4 & #5 on air sign doesn't need to to be so big, maybe scale it down and recycle some of that space to show more of sexy vampire...
ofc I don't know where you'll put your speech bubbles(if any) and don't know your exact artistic vision for this comic

>>3810703
10 hours later, it gets more views and more money. Sorry you guys don't understand why you haven't made anything yet for yourself and still have to study. I've seen this story far too much to stay ignorant about it for it to matter so religiously.

In other words, fuck off and get back to work instead of shitposting, ngmi.

>>3811203
Doxy's style is so fucking ugly.

>>3811005
wtf a face shes has, and loooong tits.

>>3810119
pornhub

I want to get into hentai but I don't know where to post,

>Pixiv has a shadow banning system for uncensored works. I didn't even know it and i'm never going to censor myself anyways. It's a matter of principle.
>DA doesn't tolerate porn
>Newgrounds - old platform and probably dead
>twitter? Most of anime characters are underage, do they care?
>HF - I will need to submit a whole portfolio of finished works in the short time frame to get past their QC system. My old account had like 10 works submitted and still no auto-approve so fuck them i deleted it.

Where Should I start my lewd account?
Should i ever look towards Minds, Gab, MeWe and other alternative social media?

>>3810713
that's because beginner's use it as an excuse for not being able to draw correct anatomy

once you get to a certain level, you can start taking risks with your stylistic choices and breaking rules. this is something you'll learn when you get better, your opinions scream of somebody who has been drawing for about 5 months.

just go through bbc's work for about 5 minutes to see he can draw hands

>>3811402
Twitter, Newgrounds, and surprisingly riding my tumblr until it gets deleted for barely pixilated lewds (btw posts that're flagged I've appealed and had back up within minutes) has been working alright for me. Also Hentai Foundry I only use to check the quality of a piece. Finally Furaffinity also has a human section, as well.

Twitter by far is probably your best option right now, everything else works better as an archive.

>>3811417
TheBootyDoc is the ultimate example of being able to make it through emphasizing style/character over substance. Dude's anatomy is atrocious but the comics still look good because they are dynamic.

Yeah anatomy be important and definitely work to improve it but you can still put out work and be successful if you can draw a decently appealing figure if you're able to make it dynamic.

>>3811422
How do I even attract any attention on Twitter? I never used that platform, Do I just post with hashtags?

>>3811432
Join discord servers and post your twitter.

>>3811432
post often, make fanart of big artists OCs, post in peak hours and dont forget to turn towards political virtue signaling or pity party shitposting instead of art when you reach 15,000 followers

>>3811432
Do other bigger people's OCs and do studies of the lewd models and tag accordingly. Also fanart, a lot of fanart.

Also when you do hashtag, use only one, as the algorithm don't like it when you do more.

Do the various meme outfit/daily art challenges from various large accounts (pixel dailies, cutiesaturday, etc) and interact with others by commenting on their work.

Buddy up with other slightly bigger artists and get a friend group going because it encourages output and it's fun.

Finally putting out low effort art shitposts every once in awhile can get caught by the machine and go viral over your fully fleshed out work.

Finally WiPs always get more traction than the finished piece, so be sure to post those.

>>3811012
i dont know about you but I can turn my hands almost completely sideways
not totally comfortable but its possible

>>3811437
>turn towards political virtue signaling

I think I better not.

Unless anime fascists are a sizable population segment worth pandering towards.

>>3811402
Piggybacking. I haven't whored myself yet but I'm skilled enough to. Been put off hearing second hand that the internet as a whole is on a christian morality porn-deletion rampage. Patreon and tumblr both recently fucked over porn artists right? How do you even accept payment (without your real name showing up or incurring tax)? Made a venmo but the only time I tried to use it the guy couldn't even find my name and I couldn't find his, it's a shitty app.

>>3811447
Nobody cares

Did I get better? Used to hang out at /ic/ 3 years ago, had this blog back then too...

puskinart.tumblr.com

>>3808666
I like it

>>3811447
>sizable population segment worth pandering towards
Theyre not huge, but you could probably squeeze a few commissions out of them.

Update! Let me know what you think!

>>3811522
Negative: bit stiff and expressionless
Positive: great shapes, good flow, love how comically large you made the dick

8,5/10

>>3811526
I'm gonna try to do something with the eyebrows in the next draft, which isn't super clear at the moment. I'm glad to hear that you like it though! Its one of my first animations

>>3811526
And to add, where do you see most of th stiffness? So that I can fix it

>>3811531
Its more fundamental in the entire torso/head, to fix it you’d have to start over:p

I think it’s better as a challenge for your next gif to add more movement!

>>3811551
Shucks! Well, Im happy that its turning out at least pretty well, anyhow

>>3811217
>Arms and hands are hidden
check
>Knees and everything below that are hidden
check
>Basic static standing pose
check
>Basic camera angle
check
>No background
check

Normies assemble!

>>3811203
And see, I'd take your opinion more seriously if you didn't staple on such a bad example of artwork when you're trying to prove a point.

And maybe it's just your level of taste, in all fairness. Putting up some of Doxy's work as your example of "more views, more money" with that right eye drifting outward of the skull like that means that, you really don't have great taste in inspiration.

I mean, if you like low level scrub artists as your inspiration, more power to you I guess. Good luck with that.

>>3811417
So, you're saying that Chan's nothing more than a beginner. I can agree with you on that. He's no professional, that's for sure.

And on a more honest note, why can't any of you artists show any kind of progress, given the amount of time you've all put into your work? And on that same note, why are some of you regressing after having drawn for so long? Why should "your style" be one to inspire to?

Thoughts?

>>3811585
>if you didn't staple on such a bad example
What bad example, Doxy is one of the biggest normalfag lapping artists for the past 5+ years. It just cements what really matters when selling art to non artists. Art isn't for artists to fanwank each other, it's for a profit for general audience.

>>3811608
And fyi, I didn't state I like Doxy's style (I mostly don't) but he has more than I do trying to make it with realism or other shit the masses don't care about. Art on this board is outdated and that's why no one makes it here, you don't move on.

>>3811597
In the first panel's lettering, who is the one talking? And in the second panel, why did you feel the need to make the word balloon, like a thought bubble? The same goes for the third panel.

Why is your storyboard inconsistent in terms of flow?

>>3811610
So by that account, could the same be said about Chan's work as well, albeit on the other side of the spectrum completely altogether—stylistic crap that the masses probably don't care about either?

And you are correct, art on this board is very outdated, and that's probably why so many beginners here throw a hissy fit when their work is often critiqued as scrub tier.

>>3807006
blog?

>>3811588
I think he's saying that because I am not a beginner, I can experiment with stylization. And that's kinda true.

>>3811648
And you are...who?

>>3811655
Read the post I quoted and probably you'll figure it out.

>>3811660
Anyone can be anyone answering for anyone on here, honestly. Can you provide proof of who you are, please.

>>3811665
Ehh. I really don't care to prove anything here. Take it or leave it I guess. Nothing of value will be lost, for either of us.

>>3811681
You are correct, just as much as I don't have nothing of value in what I say, you have nothing of value in the work you post. I'm sorry you had to spend so many years on that, only to realize that now. Let me throw a few bucks your way for a commission, it's the least I can do in order for you not to feel a complete loss, I gather.

>>3811695
Mind you, I won't pay top dollar for stylized work. I like my commissioned artists to have at least SOME form of anatomical correctness. I'm sure you'll agree, we can't have overly stylized work be the norm. We should strive our artists to push for something better.

>>3811695
>>3811708
Such generosity for an ic crab. <3

Please, keep up the great baiting.

>>3811708
>Everyone should share MY values!

>>3811695
>>3811708
Haha, mystery solved. It turns out this anon who was shitting up on BBC this whole time is just a salty commissioner that probably couldn't afford his commissions or was turned down in the past.
Priceless.

>>3811695
I'm not open for the public and random requests, sorry.
I'm doing pretty fine on patreon where my commissions are free of charge or go for 50 bucks for the lowest tier patrons.
If you want a commission from me become a patron and then wait for about 18 months (that's the current waiting time on patreon commissions). After that you can get a 50 bucks artwork (similar quality as the artwork I posted in this thread).
>>3811708
I don't draw complex commissions anymore. And for that I'd probably charge around $300 for a single character piece.
Tough luck. :\

>>3811723
As long as we stay civil about our opinions, I agree, I don't see why this shouldn't continue. After all, we're talking about an artist's work being critiqued on a critique board.
>>3811728
I think we should all strive for better anatomical correctness in the artists we aspire to be like, shouldn't we? Are not those values that I share, yours too? How odd.
>>3811732
It turns out I'm neither. I'm sorry that you jumped to such an assumption of my reply. You're not projecting through any of this, are you? Goodness, I sure hope not.

>>3811751
What the fuck is this retarded argument? Where the fuck are the porn drawings? Jesus christ what a pointless conversation. Is this the NSFW thread or not?

>>3811741
And really, I can't say for sure you are who you say you are without there being some concrete evidence. For all we know you could be someone LARPing as the artist, and I don't think that's fair that you're trying to Single White Female from this artist's lukewarm success.

YOU sound more like the "salty commissioner" in your reply than I did. haha

>>3811754
I'm sure you could have replied in a much more mature manner about the lack of artwork.
There's no need to get upset.

>>3811597
I want to see the followup to this.

>>3811768
Honestly, I really don't see how the artist can follow this up without first addressing the issues plaguing the storyboard, first.

There's no flow to the panel work, wouldn't you agree?

>>3811770
It's hard to get the actual picture of what's going on without context. My understanding is that whoever she's talking to wants some action, but is going to fading out as soon as she's off the air, with the wobbly word ballons conveying that he's losing her, and ultimately ends with the guy getting blueballed. Though, maybe it's not the right shape for balloons if that's the case.
Or maybe I'm just wrong, because there's just so much to work with and that's what my own mind pieced together trying to interpret it.

But to be honest, I just want to see the finished design of the girl.

>>3811782
I agree. Without context, this artist should re-evaluate what they're trying to showcase. A storyboard should read visually without having lettetype be its only saving grace.

Rough wip, crit? Let me know what you think! She's supposed to be reluctant and flustered to be there for reasons, but I think I made her out a bit too stiff.

>>3811854
I think your facial expression makes her look a little TOO stiff, especially in the eyes. Reluctance and fluster aren't conveyed too convincingly. Try changing the angle of both the eyelids and the way the eyes are looking out the window. Subtle angles here and there can definitely be your ally, here.

The body shows some form of angst, but that too can expressed with the breasts pressing up against the window a bit more.

>>3806957
Great line quality, keep going!

>>3811854
I'd work on defining her left arm a bit more, looks a bit on the short side. What's the context?

>>3811887
Do you mean say, looking to the side or down? I had her breasts pushed up more but decided against it since it just feels better when their shape is full instead of cut (pic)
>>3811918
You know how in Amsterdam they let girls just advertise they're a brothel behind a window?
The idea is that she's complaining to Fox over her communicator that this is embarrassing, but he retorts that proton bombs are expensive

>>3811928
More to the right side I think, like she's looking out at the people walking by. Her mouth's expression could use a little bit of tweaking as well.

>>3811641
https://twitter.com/orenjipiiru

will I ever learn to resolve the damn forms before rendering.

This board likes furries right? What animal is it? Some amalgamation of all the typical faces/head shape

>>3812774
Last I checked, furries are public enemy #1

>>3812774
Yeah, I don't really like furries.

>>3806301
I mean it’s clearly not a trace

>>3811854
Your coloring is really good! Do you have a blog?

>>3811005
Don't trace assface. You're not going to improve.

>>3812774
looks like a horse

>>3811564
why put in the extra work when this makes you money anyway. work smart not hard, at least for cash. for personal projects, go nuts.

>>3813252
I hope you aren't this lazy on commissions. That just makes it seem like you use your fanbase....

>>3811025
What am I fucking up?

>>3813444
Add a floor/bed. Your 3D intuition is weak as well

toot

>>3811612
Strange; no one over on the HF Discord found it difficult to follow.

>>3811770
For instance, I drew a line where my eye met the page and was able to follow along a S curve relatively easily.

>>3811782
Vampire radio host, who has the hots for her guest, makes the first move on air. Cuts out before the sex.

The commissioner is the one who will decide if this one page comic will receive more.

>>3813444
Your hair lacks form and seems rushed.
Chin and nose are angle up, but eyes and lips aren't affected by perspective.
An upward angle is generally unattractive too, especially if the person drawing it can't draw it.
The clavicle is very spaced apart. Theres so many anatomical errors, like how you're creating muscles that don't exist and incorrectly placing forms that I can't be bothered to say them all and would rather just say for you to look up nude female models on google.
No line weight priority. Everything seems to be an inconsistent thickness.
You're not constructing, just placing things where you guess they would attach.
You didnt draw the full body. Legs and feet are important.
Defining lines too much around soft muscles.

Ive been up for 48 hrs but managed to do this before I finally pass out.
What did I fuck up

>>3813623
Muscles and tits are mutually exclusive

Also they look like a deflated sack of potatoes

>>3813627
What did she mean by this

>>3813629
He jelly

>>3813623
Decent forms but the upper arms are too short. Use some softer lines or hatch the small muscle definition too, they aren’t hard transitions.

But it’s not furry

Final

>>3811854
Charming. I like the the rendering on the contact with glass.

I have this theory that in your effort to make it as fappable as possible, you stop paying attention to any non-sexy part, like head or arms and hands, so it all falls out of proportion without you noticing.
Try to flip your canvas from time to time or even count heads like old Loomis does (one head down to nipples, two more to crotch), not because you'd need to obey those rules but to keep track of when things start to slip a little too far.
Remember, even hands and other non-sexual parts can be incredibly sexy if done well.

>>3813774
what was your site again?

>>3813774
Oh hey fisher, hope you're doing alright.

You don't have to render the figure and the background in the same way, but you could at least make the lighting similar so it looks like the guy belongs in there - that means giving it a similar value range and a similar shift in shadows (your character has a cool lightsource while your bg has a warm one).
Keep it up!

>>3813799
oh wow thanks. I'll try to keep this in mind, Maybe render the character and the background at the same time instead of doing the character first on a blank background. In hindsight that's probably the worst way i couldve done it.

>>3813243
what the hell do you think i traced?

This is why I’m ngmi

>>3813828
You need jesus

>>3813828
it's surprisingly well elaborated, no comments on the theme

>>3811908
You probably won't want to change it at this point, but there's something strange with the ass shape if you ask me. The torso is also a bit too long, but that's something to be figured out in the thumbnail stage, so maybe next time.

Nice inking tho, love the lip bite.

>>3813807
Naw, you did good.
It's better to at least sketch the background in so you can draw the character in the same perspective, with their feet planted on the ground, those things are a pain to be fixing later on. It also gives you more options for the composition, like leaning against the tree trunk or pushing a branch out of the way for us to see that delicious chest.
To make a character fit into their background you just have to make them have something in common, like value or temperature.

Lining is so tedious

>>3813864
It's because you aren't relaxed enough. It shows in the stiffness of your linework. You just need more experience to build the proper confidence.
It will be much easier once you'll enjoy the whole process. You'll get there sooner or later.

>>3813871
Thanks anon

>>3813781
>I like the the rendering on the contact with glass.
That's because that part is heavily referenced by an existing picture.

>>3813774
ruined with that stupid silly dick

>>3813913
theres a small dick version too, it'll get posted with all the other version on twitter

>>3812781
really? I though that spot was taken by pedos

>>3813927
https://kiwifarms.net/threads/zoosadism-megathread.47973/

Nuff said
Furries belong in a gas chamber

>>3813918
Face is the only really nice thing in this. Because of that it looks like it's over referenced.

>>3813781
Thanks for the reminder, just spent a while rendering the hands of that pic and looking what to do with the curtains
>>3813882
Yeah, I've been looking for references everywhere when it comes to having parts against glass, specially breasts. Lately been having the craving for that specific thing but it's also the first time I'm tackling it like pic related

>>3813882
Good. That means anon can use refs well, without me realizing it. Kudos for that.

>>3813962
>Yeah, I've been looking for references everywhere when it comes to having parts against glass, specially breasts. Lately been having the craving for that specific thing but it's also the first time I'm tackling it like pic related
Not really what I was trying to say. That pic you made is almost an exact copy of an existing hentai artwork of a girl pressing her body on a steamy glass drawing a heart on it. The torso is almost the same.

>>3813975
Imo it just means that you can't perceive when someone's drawing looks better than their actuall skills are. The way some parts of the illustration are so much better than others should have tipped off anyone that knows how to recognize this kind of over referencing.

>>3813989
All this said, I don't think using references is a bad thing. Please, don't get me wrong. I just think you should do a better job at trying to make your whole drawing more cohesive. Try not to over reference parts of it is what I mean.

>>3813959
what should i do to make muscles more appealing?

>>3814002
>muscles
>sexy

Pick 1

>>3814003
>muscles
>not sexy

>>3814009
Muscles are gay, anon

>>3811217
Doxy is a 1-trick pony Fraud who can only draw the same goofy body, lips, face, and continually gets worse as time goes on. Potential heavily stifled by the fact that their making money so they might as well stop learning/trying and just continue to pump out the same garbage over and over again because their fan base doesn't give a fuck so why should they?

>>3813918
>>3814002
maybe put in less detailed and have the shading/coloring do the rest.

How long does it take you guys to bring something to a finished state?
Think my expectations are distorted

>>3814354
A couple of days for me, but I procrastinate a lot

>>3813774
meant to get this too you sooner, apologies
i absolutely love the colors you used on the hood though, that purple with the red is enchanting

>>3814354
i've completed something in as short as an afternoon and i've had drawings that took me over a year to get around to "finishing". average usually takes me a few days/weeks though, even though my work isn't very technically proficient, i am just incredibly particular with my output.

>>3814114
doxy is happy with what he can output, he's focused the last few years in on more efficiently putting things out, aka quicker, i respect that. it's his job, and he treats it like a job, he's not some hobbyist who can focus forever on pushing himself with his art, he's working on creating what his fanbase wants because he needs their support to make a living. tho also even that's a lie. he's been pushing himself bodytype wise with his more gay orientated furry work under onta. he tends to swing back and forth between the two, letting one be comfy easy to produce work that brings him his bread while experimenting more under the other to try out things his fanbase under that name might not always be into.

>>3813774
Hey fisher, love the works you do, cept the penis ngl
but I wanted to ask if you had any particular big inspirations to your style?
Your shapes, forms and colors just make alot of sense for me.

>>3814398
kept messing with it a tiny bit, apologies, had to change the neck after changing the face and wanted to make small changes to body

>>3814398
>>3814523
thanks, this actually helps with some stuff i was unsure about with the face. Going to keep the body the same though, it's just a matter of preference

>>3814477
thanks, don't worry i'm not offended i know what i'm into is extremely niche. My biggest source of inspiration for my nsfw stuff is jjfrenchie/joel jurion for sure, but beyond that i also try to emulate ban, jeffr, deerchip, koki, ovopack, dentyou, and the cleaner elements of radiohead. there are probably a lot more but i cant think of them at the moment

>>3813853
ii know that you edited lines on this drawing but idk about this arm right here
anything up with it, in your opinion?

trying more expression

>>3814577
no problem, just glad to help! honestly your body is much more accurate for what that type of body should look like, i get too obsessed with shape and silhouette that i often heavily forsake anatomical shiz in a way that makes life harder when trying to work into other areas of art lol

>>3813918
Don't listen to those fags. This is great. I would blow my load to this if it was finished.

>>3805577
i think there needs to be a new nsfw thread

>>3805577
when would it be a good time to create a new thread?

>>3815083
Whenever. If two threads have to duke it out for supremacy, the strongest thread wins.

>>3815322
i suggest because this place isnt getting bumped anymore
and its been up for almost 8 days
or maybe boards like these have to stay up longer??

>>3815037

redpill me on my skill level

>>3815696
This looks like you really rushed it. It doesn't look complete.

>>3815709
in what sense? unblended/not enough tones used?

>>3815718
Where you put the highlights look like strokes that would only take a moment. You didn't bother sharpening or cleaning up the edges where they'd need to be to more accurately wrap around the forms.
The line work Is messy and rushed, again, you couldn't be bothered to touch up on the "tails" you left behind.
You colored out of the lines for the boy, which is distracting since it's different from the rest along with the lazy highlight across his chest. Oh, and the lighting on her legs is too high contrast in comparison to the rest of the picture.

As a side note to improve the coloring, a reflective secondary light would benefit the forms a lot and a cast shadow underneath her neck piece would look better. I would suggest blending the form shadows a bit, but you can keep things as a stylistic cell shader preference.

>>3815744
the male was meant to be drawn in a lazy way to appear flustered, thought coloring outside the lines would help convey that
not sure what you mean by 'reflective' light. like rimlighting?

>>3815800
I've added both rim lighting and reflective lighting. Reflective is generally softer and affects surrounding objects. The strong red color would reflect onto the character for example and a secondary cooler light would bounce off of the character too. Rim lighting is strong and sharp that's a third light source that comes from behind the character.

Check out Scott Robertson's How to Render if you're curious.

>>3810819
>>3810737
is pic related from him?

>>3815822
thanks

Any based artist could draw Alice wearing only this outfit and brown suspenders(she is not wearing any t-shirt) in a way that cover her nipples?

>>3815823
Yes.

How do you do nsfw studies?