/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>3787640
go to questions that don't deserve their own thread
there are 2 versions there
now go

>>3787640

>>3787656
>anatomy for sculptors

Into the trash it goes!

>>3787640
god i wish that were me

>>3787656
so much wrong in this.

steve huston is good for beginners, but you can also use it all the way to finished render. its a very delicate style.

scott Robertson/dynamic bible=soulless shit. not scott Robertson himself, but theres no way you will draw like him.

ctrl paint is shit too.

anatomy for sculptors. yea no. just learn to simplify the body.

>>3787640
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>>3787640
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You can also look at the structure of CGMA courses

>>3787666

>>3787786
Um. I don't sculpt? I draw?? So back off???

>>3787809
ngmi

>>3787829
>implying someone needs the mspaint knock off loomis content and google image search expression tables in AfS to make it

lol to be honest

>>3787753
>>ctrl paint is shit too.
how and why?

What about drawabox

>>3787833
that's not why you are ngmi, but because of your mentality

>>3787753
you have shit opinions

>>3787768
>>3787771
fuck, i hate books and teachers..no way im reading this shit!

>>3787656
Thanks

>>3787640
Sauce me faggots

>>3788139
Never.

>>3787768
>jack hamm scenery and not composition

>>3788160
Fine. Use them for both. It's art. Not science.

>>3788139
just google the image mate

>>3788157
>>3788168
>skinny-long-torso-girls-with-sneakers-in-perspective
Ffffuuuuuuuuu, give me mooooar

>>3788182
hmm you have a goal now
start drawing

>>3787833
Oh hey, the A4S shitposter is back at it again!

>>3787656
>>3787768
>>3787771
which one of these is objectively the best approach?

>>3788424
There isn't any objective best one, every artist's short-term goals and long-term goals vary so much there's no way to distill a single best path for everyone.

>>3788182

>>3788182
Holy shit my dick!

>>3788424
Probably >>3787768
Learn the basics then grind the rest, when you get stuck on one, switch and repeat

Daily reminder that you're NGMI if you don't draw this much on a daily basis

>>3788922
how long does it take for him to draw that much?

>>3788922
good shit anon

>>3788935

Don't know. The guy's a machine

https://www.artstation.com/artwork/oObvYz

>>3788922
What i should draw if i'm completly /beg/? I mean i can draw cubes or ellipses 2 hors per day... But it doesn't seem helpful at all. I tried draw-a-box and stucked at textures. I tried Loomis but my spheres sucks. I tried just copy photos and don't get good results out of this.
Just help me someone with advice. I will not stop drawing but i'm lost among all this courses

>>3788978

Draw from life. Draw ugly every day shit like your cellphone laying on a table or a chair from different angles. Read drawing on the right side of the brain, your first priority is overcoming symbol drawing.

>>3788984
Sorry i forget to mention about drawing on the right side\keys of drawing.
This is my last training. As you can see i'm beg but i think that i'm above symbol drawing. Correct me if i'm wrong.

>>3788997

Those hands look pretty good, just keep at it. I'd advice you to draw from life too from the start assuming those are from photos

>>3788182
holy fuck

>>3787809
Have you even checked that book out? It's a pretty good anatomy reference whether you sculpt or not.

>>3788922
There is Ataboh too
>https://twitter.com/ataboh
>http://ataboh.tumblr.com

No Op, but i am in a similar situation where I am making a game plan on gitting gut.
I have made a mind map with all the art subjects that I will study one by one. Am i missing some? Should I maybe add networking/bisness side of art in too?

Thanks man, been studying Loomis for a while and some Proko shit. Been doing robo bean stuff.

>>3787666

>>3789079
Perspective?

>>3789106
added perspective*
Anythinge else?

>>3789852
Pretty sure that's everything.

>>3787809
This is the most NGMI post in thread
>Loomis wants you to feel the form
>Feel the way the muscle wraps around the body
>the book doesn't hold my hand like a Mark Crilley step by step draw along so it's useless to me

Actually retarded. Rope yourself before you spread your symbol drawing like the plague

>>3789852
Gesture is just composition applied to figure drawing.
Animals, Anatomy, Environment, Objects aren't really in line with everything else because they aren't actually the fundamental building blocks, imo.
Also for Objects I'd rename it to either Hard Surface or Mechanical for clarity (if that is your intention).

Personally I'd add another topic called "Subject Matters" and put in Human Figure (maybe with gesture and anatomy underneath), Objects and Environment there.

>>3790000
>Gesture is just composition applied to figure drawing.

>>3789852
Appeal

>>3787768
I tried Keys to Drawing, but it's all so difficult, I even fail at the first few exercises
Am I too dumb to draw

>>3790013
yes it sounds like it

>>3789852
What is the point of this diagram with art in the middle?

Why can’t it just be a list? what’s with the connected lines? How are these topics weighted?

reminder that if you're not drawing 12h+ you're NGMI

>>3790007
I think the design and style might cover that.
>>3790242
Art the whole of all these subjects. I want to break it down into smaller subjects so i have a better plan to tackle then. I will then add more down as i go, for example i will add hand, face, legs to the anatomy, and then organic stuff trees bushes rock etc.

>>3790000
That seems more confusing. What is the difference with hard surface and mechanical.
i think its broad to make into smaller things like organic stuff nad mechanical.

>>3787640
The real question as far as I'm concerned is learned to git gud at digital drawing.

Maybe I've been doing sketchbooks for too many years but trying to transition to digital has been agonizing for me. Especially when different programs are better at different things and I have to fuck with tablet settings on each one. And I cant afford a display tablet so I'm stuck looking at a screen as opposed to at my hands.

The result is that I just end up going back to sketchbooks anytime I want to draw then wonder why I'm not improving digitally.

>>3787904
cause its soulless industry shit. he doesn't focus on art, but purely just rendering.

>>3790683
I'm kind of worried about this. I'm a total beginner but I got a tablet on sale for christmas. I want to draw digitally, but I figured that learning fundamentals with pencil and paper first made more sense. I haven't really used my tablet yet, but I should probably start alternating to get a feel for it.

>>3790683
Same here, I try and try to get into digital but find myself not knowing where to even begin, and just coming back to the familiar pencil and paper over and over again

>>3790689
No one can teach you soul ngmi-san, but if you want to learn digital rendering he's a great start.

>>3790013
No but you give up too quick, fix that

>>3790683
>>3790693
>>3790838
Just use a transparent brush for a sketch layer and then use a full opacity brush for lines. Set bg to 50% grey so your eyes dont die.

If you can't sketch or ink trad your digital will suck tho

>>3787640
Fuck I’m still in love with this drawing, I get a boner every time I scroll past this thread. I hope this thread never dies

>>3790005
But it is?

>>3789852
I'd say it's bad form to study each subject "one by one". The fundamentals work together to form a cohesive whole and it's better to strengthen all the parts together then to try to master one subject before moving on. Even then you'll never really master a subject, there will always be something to study or practice so it's better to work generally on everything so you can later get highly specific and specialize in the areas you want like say 5 point perspective. But that's just my take on it, you should try to do your own thing instead of just doing what everyone else says to do (loomis). That way you always know exactly what you're doing and why/how it fits into getting you to your own goals.

>>3790416
I wish I could neet to do this

>>3791282
Be wagecuck for a while, then get friends/family to let you stay at their place for 1-2years.

I've heard Brad Rigney did something like that.

>>3790416
no spellcheck till 4pm either

>>3791289
>I've heard Brad Rigney did something like that.
and he's a hack photobasher lmao

that schedule is built for people to fail. you don't actually follow it.

>>3791704
>and he's a hack photobasher lmao

You say that like it means something, everyone's a hack in the digital community.

>>3792244
>everyone's a hack in the art community.
ftfy. we just upgraded our tools and mastered our techniques, but we've been hacks since the day we painted animals on cave walls

>>3788424
they are all literally the same thing

>>3787768
This is only 10 books,

while the others are 11 and 15.

>>3792256

>literally the same thing

>>3792314
>>3788424
I'd say aguri guide is the best.

>>3792329

Looks interesting, you have any links to the resources?

>>3788424
if you are into digital painting the one with ctrl paint is the best one
also it has steve huston figure book - the best figure book for beginner

>>3789852
Line and volume

>>3792353
you can find everything on cgpeers

What do you guys think of George Bridgman?

>>3793700
bretty gud. I usually bounce between his anatomy book and force drawing human anatomy.

>>3790683
learning digital should be top priority. If you want to learn fast, you make mistakes faster on digital but fix them faster.

>>3787656
I think this is too much material for the complete begginer. A good enough start would be with Proko videos and then merging to Vilpu or scholism courses.

>>3790416
Are there people who actually keep up with this for more than a week?

>>3791254
If your goal is to learn to ride a unicycle while juggling, it's a lot faster and easier to learn them separately.

>>3790005
gonna need the sauce on that image

>>3787771
>how to draw 2nd
>figure drawing 7th

>>3790578
draw first and then read books based on what you want to know

What do y'all think the best /beg/ video series on youtube is? I've been reading keys to drawing but I think I absorb video content a lot better.

>>3803004
the drawing database
the quality rival watt or NMA but for free
also have great figure course

>>3803004
Ctrl+paint

>>3803004
>but I think I absorb video content a lot better.
ngmi. learn to fucking read books and study