/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

why do people not color pick when they're using digital media? thats the whole point of digital media.

how to draw chainmail pattern but fast?
criticisms are welcome

Why do I even try if the 3d modeler is this shitty?
Feels bad to see your creation getting fucked in the ass
Just

>>3783529
it's not bad, also you're making vidya?

>>3783531
Yeah it's vidya, but It's more of a colaboration between a couple artists and programers to do something rather than anything professional. So I haven't made it yet
And that model is pretty shitty for someone that calls himself 3d modeler

>>3783497
>/beg/

>>3783529
Most 3d artists aren't traditional artists so they don't understand how to translate the readable form from art to 3d
Like he doesn't seem to understand that the shape of your mouse is essentially a really fat pear with bottom cut off, he could start modeling almost from a cone.

>>3783545
it's dead

Still adding graphite.
Experimented with the background but I think it’s too distracting.
Gonna even it out and then fix the teeth then try to figure out what to do with the shadow to the right of the book and do a little more to the book.

>>3783565
are you sure that the front place of the lower jaw is quite right?
Do you have the original pic so I can see the values?

>>3783463
that's a cute girl in the OP, sauce?

>>3783571
oh nvm it's actually from the previous thread

>>3783570
The placement of almost everything is off frankly.
This isn’t drawn from a photo. So with that being the case, I didn’t get the shapes quite right or their placement. I’m still playing with the values but have been sick so I can only do so much a day. I got a skull from amazon and put it in a shadow box. But I don’t think the jaw is too off.
But please give me your thoughts.

>>3783570
Or red line it so I can see what you’re talking about.

>>3783576
>>3783579
Can't redline it because I am trying to rush my own project but here is a quick thing that seemed off.
Basically I am not an anatomy expert but I think that the wisdom too th does not go that far back behind the mandible? Only at a certain angles when you are basically looking at it from almost completely the side, but when you are looking at it from 3/4th it should be almost completely visible. In addition to that all of the back teeth seem to be extremely tilted.
This all together creates a weird feeling like if you would but that skull upright he almost has an unnatural joker-like smile that is innate to his jaw structure as opposed to the very slight curve that skulls naturally have.
In addition to that I think the values on the jaw front plane can accentuate curve just a slightly bit more.
Take that with a grain of salt, otherwise the values look good everywhere especially on the brow ridge in my opinion.

>>3783591
obviously pic related has quite a bit of an underbite so it's not an ideal example, but I hope I explained what is bothering me
though as I said I need to work on my anatomy so it might be that your skull is entirely possibly depending on the human

>>3783591
Yeah the bottom wisdom tooth it definitely too far back. Good catch. I just turned on the lights in my shadow box and am taking another look. This is precisely what I’m looking for thanks. The front jaw plane is something I’ve gone over again and again. I had a lot more graphite on it but it upset the over all value structure so o dragged an eraser over the whole thing and this is what came out. I thought about leaving it but I may play a little more.
This Stonehenge paper gets destroyed easily so I may just leave it.
I will definitely leave it for last because if I go darker on the jaw front plane it seems I may have to go darker on everything, and I’m not sure I’m up to that.
We’ll see. Thanks man for checking me. This is the reason I am still coming here...free crits!

i am just struggling with getting that sketchy brushwork. any tips?

>>3783611
You're not using a brush that has some sort of directional stroke to it. You're using a brush that is grainy and has no sense of stroke to it.

Use a different brush.

>>3783596
Cool. Thanks.
Here’s a pic of the set up.
It amazing how much the lens distorts. Not to mention exposure and all that.

>>3783596
Yeah you know, something I read in the book lessons in classical drawing by Juliette Aristides is one way to ensure the most accuracy of a drawing is to keep the thing open for as long as possible.
I wish I had sought out crits more often along the way. So much is off. It could have been a way better drawing.

>>3783565
Book Cast shadow is fucked

>>3783630
don't beat yourself over it
it's alright, you will get better because of it

Drew this woman today

>>3783652
How creepy it must be for people. Do you mumble to yourself and occationally chuckle during the process?

>>3783681
>implying I'm aware that I'm actually a mental patient in a padded room jerking off all over the walls while the government does experiments on me
Come on now, son

>>3783539
hey bro how can I join in? sounds like it would be fun.

>>3783703
Lol those spikes on his head are redoculous

any tips on ambient occlusion?
still working on this thumb though I went in and detailed some stuff to help me out

>>3783463
usually work with aballpoint pen, working with this brush kinda feels like it :o

>>3783865

>>3783495
Can't you tell why? These colours are boring and muddy, and values are all over the place. Why would you willingly choose to not make a statement with you colour choice?

>>3783867

>>3783639
Read the post you fucking retard. I cover that.

>>3783870

>>3783643
Yeah I know. Thanks man.
I’m actually excited for the next drawing. But I’m gonna try to salvage this one as much as possible.

>>3783836
The shadows in the robe of the attacker probably needs darker values. Keep in mind defected light fro the wall in the sunlight. Try Occlusion in those folds.

slowly but surely plodding along with this, line based stuff doesn't take me too long, but applying tone is a bitch. does anyone know of any good gumroad tutorials for people who have been exclusively line based trying to break into more painterly/brush stroke-like tones?

>>3783904
Looking good man.

>>3783869
To keep realism. What are you suggesting?

>>3783925
You are picking one color from a gradation of a value most likely.
It's good for some reference I guess, but studying values and colors on yourself is crucial.

monster girl

no matter how much I flip the canvas I have trouble with facial symmetry even in a straight on view, it's so frustrating
sigh

>>3783941
Change font

>>3783983
I should really go with something loosely handwritten

>>3783865
Blog?

Does this pose look okay? I've been struggling with it and even used reference but I can't tell anymore.

>>3784013
This looks rigid as the spine and the flow of the body is not accomodating the pose. Before you start drawing if you begin with some curvy gesture-esque lines especially of the spine which conveys the general flow of the posture I find that it can prevent figures coming out rigid

Could I get a critique/redline, I feel like the anatomy isnt right

>>3784095
I did that but I guess I got stiffer as I refined it.
God damn it I don't want to have to redraw the entire thing, ugh...

>>3783703
>>3783652
>>3783836
>>3783826
>>3783941
Super rad. Keep going and you'll make it for sure. Cheers anons

>>3784108
>I did that but I guess I got stiffer as I refined it.
I hate that when it happens

>>3784103
The chest and armpit are way off as well as his right lat, serratus area. Also his left thigh is thiicc

>>3784110
thanks man,

>>3784118
Yeah it's the worst.
Well thanks for the feedback. I'll just have to decide if I want to leave it or redo it now.

>>3784150
You could also try poking it around with liquify if it doesn't damage too much of it

>>3784128
thanks mang, I only recently started doing figures/anatomy from imagination

>>3784151
I'm in CSP so no liquify tool but I did mess with it a little more and I think I've brought it to a point where I can live with it. It won't be amazing but at least it doesn't look horribly broken. Thanks again man.

>>3783865
Can you please let us download that brush anon, I'm completely in love with that effect, and your style. Btw how long does it take you to do these?

Finished

>>3784197
looks like a simple hard round brush

>>3784157
i know the lines are there to show the volumes but it looks like he is wearing thigh highs
sugoi

>>3784201
Looks great!!
Any chance I could see just the line work? I wanna get in some color practice tonight and your work looks fantastic to work with.

Thoughlts?

>>3784000
looks like the drawing style fashion designers use

>>3784271
Thanks<3 Can you post examples though?

>>3784298
I don't know, it was probably the long neck what made me say that. It kinda has a similar feel though.

>>3784009
>blog?
@eisebrachtart on insta is the only place i really post atm.

>>3784197
It is the simple round brush in Procreate only with the minimum opacity turned up a bit.
>how long do they take
Very short actually, I draw load of doodles with ballpoint like this all day, the longest part for my feel lik separating the drawing from the white background :I

Working on some character concept art

>>3784320
Ah damn I tried recreating it in PS but it always leaves a nasty multiply-like effect when going over the lines twice.. Any ways do you have a blog? I'm interested in seeing how you color these. Based on the sketches your style reminds me of earlier Zedig, but I much prefer how you stylize humans. If you're as good as him at coloring and composition/backgrounds/full character stylization I'd buy any graphic novel or artbook you make in a heartbeat. Keep grinding anon

Which border line width do you think looks better? I can't decide...

>>3784439
Forgot the image because I'm a dumbass

>>3784439
>>3784441

at this point its mainly a preference thing. just save two versions they're both equally pleasant. good work :)

>>3784013
don't know if it's just me, but the area around the bottom of the rib cage looks strange. might want to check that against your ref.

>>3784441
>>3784439
Honest opinion: they're both lazy. You can't just outline like that unless
>You're separating a complex figure from a complex background
>You're doing some sort of Butch Hartman cartoon
You should use line weight according to the volumes, e.g. have a thick line go under the arm in the foreground instead of stopping at the elbow, have thicker lines on the inside of the folds, etc.
I rarely see a case where using dead lines is better than tapering lines

>>3784563
there is a certain kind of style that does use flat lines without any weight variation, but it's more of a graphic design (or even cartoony) sorta thing.

>>3784564
>but it's more of a graphic design (or even cartoony) sorta thing
Yeah you see it in Butch Hartman / Hanna-Barbera toons a lot

>>3784563
I can agree to an extent. Line depth and weight is extremely important when a character is IN a space. In a room. A setting.
Simple pin-up's or busts don't really need to adhere to this. Or if the artist is going for a more eye catching "pop." If you want a fine example of an Eastern use of this sort of style, look to Panty and Stocking. The series itself varies a lot in it's visuals, so it may not be the best example.
It doesn't look like the artist intends to put this character's in a space outside of a void. At least at this time. I also like what they did, as it makes the images pop out a bit more. It also emphasizes the inside of the borders, highlighting those smaller details.

It all depends on the setting used and particular style of an artist. Line weight/depth can be incredibly useful, but also having no line weight/depth can also be done well. It's a simple style that I think anon did well.

I'm tired of this painting , is it any good ? can i improve it somehow ?

>>3783832
really really nice
>>3783836
the sleeve looks a bit like a knife at first glace you may want to adjust that
>>3784617
looks nice

Little 2 hour Mista

>>3784404
>Zedig
Looked him up, and damn i wish i came near to this dude's lvl. Looked at his DA vor many a half hour. I'm thankfull for he compliment either way ;)

some drawing I made of other people their sculptures while at my orientation year at the rietveld acadamy

>>3784773
the theme was chewing-gum btw

Learning how to work with isometric perspective now

I am done, I don't think I can take this commission further with my current skill level and I am tired as fuck of it.
Do you guys have any tips on finishing touches and "cheap tricks" in photoshop to make it look cinematic? Something that could be interesting to look into?

Done, I don't think I can take this pic further with my current skill level.
Any tips on how to make it look cinematic with photoshop "cheap tricks"? Or just finishing touches I can put on this commission.
>>3783893
I feel a bit blinded by the piece at this point, could you point out the areas?
>>3784729
Can you point out which of the sleeves?

>>3784801
Gimme some time.
I gotta go to work. I’ll try to remember tonight.

>>3784801
it's recognizable after a split second, but just for clarity's sake

>>3784814
Better?

>>3784729
ayyy i painted that same girl a bunch of time ago

>>3784878
looks dope man, there is a slight tanget with the attacks left arm+back and the wooden structure behind him, if you see what i mean. also maybe some more warm colors in the front and cold in the back never hurt

>>3783737
I found them in a small vidya forum from spain (I'm spanish). They had a colaboration section and people post something like requests.
You should look for those forums

>>3784914
I can't be bothered to continue this, my good friend Severi helped me out with the piece to give it proper finishing touches.
I should force myself to finish stuff like this more and stop being a lazy faggot.

>>3783529
the model is way better than your drawing.

you are in no position to be this cunty and entitled

your creation is just not very good to begin with

>>3784958
His drawing is a lot better than the model? The sculptor clearly can't read form/
Look at the shape of body and the form of the head.

>>3784958
The drawing has 2 toes and the sculptor gave the model 3. Its like he isnt even trying. Thats just an obvious detail theres alot wrong with the model.

>>3784958
The issue here is that the 3d artist clearly has no grasp on form, he is not a sculptor nor is he an artist.
This is a 5 minute zsketch from someone who started to learn zbrush literally a week ago, as you can see in 5 minutes it is very easy to block out something far closer to the concept than that mesh.

>>3784878
looks good

>>3784901
Nice. its a great photo. I'd love to be able to paint like that

>>3784729
She is cross eyed in your painting.
Take a photo and flip the canvas to see it clearly.
Additionally your jaw is completely busted, and try to lower the right corner of her mouth.
Pic related, flipped it, should make it more obvious.

a little something for a project I'm working on

>>3783497
>shitty hard lines and strokes
do you even keys2drawing

>>3785055

>>3785055
>>3783529

>>3785055
>someone who started to learn zbrush literally a week ago
what course/resources are you following anon?

>>3785093
raf grassetti Gumroad stuff
it's cheap

>>3785143
Really nice, what did you do to develop good understanding of tech like that? What would you even study, broken down motors?

>>3785147
Look up puppeteer lee

>>3785147

>what did you do to develop good understanding of tech like that?
Well I don't really have good understanding of tech it's more about shape and form design that remind you of machinery that important I think, but I have tech education though. These mecha type drawings I do in my sketchbook in spare time, so it's a lot of improvisation, then I refine it digitally. Better study other Mecha/sci-fi artists that you like and real life machinery that have any notion of movement

Tried to draw the Steppe from my mind

>>3784955
branch man's right food is completely fucked

very nice work overall anon

>>3785251
Why's her skin so red? She looks sick.

>>3785256
I am completely out of my depth with this picture
It was a weird commission that was too cheap for what it asked, but I sort of realized that I have to do it for myself
I have really shit habits which I need to defeat and I need to practice fundamentals again, like go over all of the fundies but really hardcore mode

>>3785256
>>3785263
One thing though, this was almost completely from imagination, I took pictures of my body parts sometimes when I didn't know how stuff should look, but overall it was just going from thumb to detailed

>>3785172
AND here's a landscape thing

>>3784955
My only complaint is that the blood (I think on the left side) doesn't really look like blood, nor does it seem to be coming from anyone.

drew my gf while she was sleeping

>>3784404
>>3784773
ohyeah, i dont have a blog, mostly post on my instagram: @eisebracht

>>3785380
@eisebrachtart

>>3785369
I think it's not blood, it's like the other hanging cloth thing

>>3784552
Super late, but just wanna say thank you!! I'll be making two versions, since that does sound like a good way to go about it. Thanks Anon! Appreciate it!

>>3784244
Apologies for being late. Here you go!

Got my cintiq 16 today

Coming along.

>>3785083
OP here.
Damn anon, this is 100 times better. I can clearly see it's my design and you have the skills

For a moment I though it was maybe my fault that my forms where not clear enough, but you have proved it wrong.
The worst part is that you did this even without the frontal view (unlike the original sculptor).

Actually, we are a bit needy of a good 3d arstist (clearly)
Do you know somthing about retopology and UVs and all that stuff?
Maybe we could move the current fag into enviroments.

>>3785067
underrated, but at a first glance it looks like a dude with a rifle on one of those medieval plague masks.
Check the silouette, maybe you could make a leg show or something

PS. I ended up drawing it. can't unseen

>>3785531
Add me on discord and we can chat tomorrow.
I live in GMT+4, so it's 6 am here.
We can talk tomorrow, I am Lorkhatosh#1113 on Discord.

>>3785531
>>3785568
Also I guarantee you that after one week of Zbrush studying you can sculpt the same thing.
UV mapping is easy, toss that thing into blender and just mark seams.
Retopology is a bit harder but I remember the basics of it.
Basically every artist that doesn't study Zbrush is a dum-dum because it's only a plus. Have you ever wanted an easy way to model 3d shit? Now you can! And the best part is that all of your artistic skills translate perfectly, including how you block by going from big to small etc.

>>3785514
Why does everyone draw these horrible giant tits
Can't you stop at Ds or something? They stop being attractive when they're so fucking large, they just look like inflated balloons
Have you never mentally grown past your nursing phase?
I fucking hate this oppai shit

Just sketched this. I'm not that good at drawing clothes so I probably need to work on that.

>>3785502
I love your line work. It is very clean and neat.
>>3784246
His left arm looks bad. It sticks out from the rest of the drawing. You might want to work on that part a little, but I do love the design of his face.

>>3785512
I love the way you rendered it, his head is a bit too long though, like look at the distance from his eyes to his ear, I think it's gigantic.
Post more tho

>>3785575
Can't say why but it feels Araki inspired.
I like it man, got full body stuff?

>>3785514
I like the way you rendered her leg area and her hair, but the tits look like they are glowing red, and her face is a bit derpy.
I think the distance between the eyes is a bit too big and her expression seems confused, like she is smiling but her eyes are blank or scared in an odd way. I think if you make them a bit more closed and lift her cheeks a tiny bit you can make her look more happy.
Study expressions, look at yourself in the mirror.

First time posting for a critique, this is the cover I drew for my new sketch book.

>>3785579
It is Araki inspired.

The style is a mashup of Kazuma Kaneko and Hirohiko Araki. My two favorite artists. I don't have any other drawings on me at the moment. I could draw one if you want me to.

>>3785582
Your faces are good, I wonder if you know how to draw bodies well in addition to that though because the body on the right seems a bit wonky.
If you could draw any jojo doing a random stance it would be cool, but try to challenge yourself and do a new pose from imagination.

>>3785581
You are thinking in blobs of dark and light, but crosshatching works a lot better in my opinion when you focus on hos it follows the form. The way some lines just abruptly end on the wings and some other random lines are just there ruins it for me desu.
Just try to imagine the 3d grid of the object and hatch along that.

>>3785586
I'll admit that I'm not that good at full bodies yet, but I'm planning on making a comic one day so I am trying to get better. I have been watching Proko and studying anatomy, so maybe one day I will be good enough to draw any pose in any perspective.

>>3785587
Thank you, I needed some advice on hatchwork. I love how it looks and want to get better with it myself

>>3785590
Don't limit yourself.
If you feel like you are bad at something shift your focus to that, just draw that shit 80% of the time from now on, make it your main subject.
Trust me, in less than a month you will feel like you have leveled up significantly.

>>3785592
A good exercise that you can do easily is to load up some random 3d object or look up 3d mesh pictures and try to emulate how the 3d mesh bends around the form, but with cross hatching.
So the way you try to do it is that you hatch along the imagines wireframe of the model, and you hatch thicker or lighter depending on how strong or weak the shadow is.

>>3785598
I'm going to try that with what I'm working on now, thanks anon!
In terms of lines, should they all start at the same point, or can I layer differing sections?

>>3785603
Experiment, honestly it can work both ways but try not to mix methods.
If hatching is inconsistent it's very noticeable that the artist changed his approach.

>>3785606
Thanks anon, that was helpful

Im /r/ing the source of a painting I saw recently. Woman cop, holding umbrella? and cat looking up at a bridge in the rain at night.

>>3785634
Found it

'Off-Duty' by Mateusz Majewski

>>3785576
thx anon. i decided to start over since tthe palette was thrown off by my shitty laptop monitor. this cintiq 16 is so legit for being under 700 bucks new

>>3785576
here is the doodle too

Thinking of getting the Huion GT-191. Any thoughts? It's somewhat cheap. It doesn't have pen tilt though. Can someone recommend some graphics tablets that have pen tilt and good screen size that isn't $1000+

>>3785679
>>3785654

making this for a friend who was a cav scout in iraq

i posted this in /beg but noone said anything so despite still being /beg im postibg it here too. this is my first attempt at oil painting. crit me.

here is a photo of the reference

Am I good enough, father? C&C please

>>3785901
definitely not good enough to be on the /draw/ thread
get your ass back to /beg/

Which one should I go with /ic/? General critiques are also welcome, please.

>>3785914

Top one. The cooler colors on the bottom feel wrong for that character, but just my opinion.

>>3785143
Yeah The Powers That B is a good song

>>3785887
define the area where the horseshoe and the skull intersect. it looks like its coming from the skull.
keep it up and youll improve.

>>3785914
Bottom one, I like the contrast between the cool highlights and the warm midtones

>>3785946
This. The contrast makes it a LOT more visually appealing

>>3785914
Top one feels like a real video game concept art with the consistent colors, very Reminiscent of Dofus and Wakfu

What i could improve on more? What is the biggest flaw you see in this?

Help me bros

>>3785925
>>3785942
>>3785955

Thanks for the feedback so far, guys. That's pretty much how my inner monologue goes on this one

>>3785957
Is... is this good or bad?

>>3785964
Good but I'm neutral on what's better. It depends on how you want to present it

>>3785887
I like it.
Obviously you could have taken more time with it. Oils as I’m sure you found, take time to do if u do them in layers.
It’s drawn pretty well. The book is your strongest object. A real sense of depth due to your values. Bravo on that. But the strength of the book is diminished by the sloppiness of the edge of the pages.
The fabric looks pretty good.
Overall you would have done better with thinner applications of paint with each brush stroke. Texture in this type of painting benefits when it imitates a part of the object being painted.
In this instance the texture isn’t emphasizing the objects but is serving to distracting from them.
But your shadow shape of the book is excellent. The flatness of the paint of the open page is good and the “words” are done pretty well.
Overall for your first time thumbs up.
And anything drawn from life ALWAYS trumps a photo reference.

>>3785967
I went the color tweaking route because it's safer, but the original goal was something like Dragon's Crown color scheme, which is really dull, somber and really yellow.
First one turned out better than I expected, an it was the original plan, so it's the one I prefer, but I also think maybe the second one is the objectively better one. That's where you guys come in, I had to get an outside perspective.
Thanks, by the way

>>3785545
I refuse to accept this interpretation, anon-
In other words:
>DELET THIS

How do I make it not look ugly?

>>3784801
This good. Just keep progressing. The important thing is youve s huccesfully illustrated. I see a story here.unlike most of the garbage posted here.

>>3784783
>learning

I think you learned..

>>3784783
The only part that immediately sticks out to me is the fountain, the left side isn't in line with the edge of the scene, like it's on a different plane slightly

>>3785959
The hip/pelvis area are a bit too elongated and it seems like you are a bit lazy with your hands.
Those are the only major things.

>>3786053
Rendering and shading has no value if they don't define form.

>>3786140
Uhh, I love that. Is it referenced?

>>3784955
the composition of this is garbage. Everyone is too close to the edges of the frame. The characters are distributed evenly which makes it boring as fuck. Setting the laughing guy as the focal point is a weird choice but it could work if you lead the eye to the action. Tweak some stuff and this could be really good.

>>3786159
I am really bad at composition especially for scenes like this. I am generally bad in a lot of fundamentals but I get by because I do a lot of work I guess and there aren't that many good local artists.
I was contacted by a studio who wanted a sketch to see what I could do for them. Sadly the deadline was yesterday so there isn't much point in tweaking this further.
But if you can give me any books or tutorials on composition or how this scene could be better, I would be grateful.
Pic related is a piece I started like 10 days ago and want to finish asap. I don't know if this is a right approach but if I feel like I fucked up on composition or something I feel like it's better to finish a piece and get better for the next piece than endlessly tweak it until it's "perfect".

>>3786140
I think that maybe you are not focusing your detail on the right things a bit.
I think that the shadow areas, like where eyes are need more detail compared to like the forehead which can be more flat. I really love where you are going though.

>>3785412
Is this referenced? There seems to be little to no volume under the lips, it's just flat.

>>3785901
Do you not see how their shoulders are completely broken and removed from the body?
Also I suggest learning perspective and basic shapes BEFORE you learn figure drawing. It's really a meme, everyone wants to draw faces and figures asap, but if you know how to position things in 3d properly first you will be far better at everything that has to do with construction instead of trying to wing it.

>>3786143
yes this is what im using
>>3786215
youre totatlly right, im just so exhasuted with it its been like 5 hours non stop on it.

>>3785575
You can have the same linework if you trace too

>>3786140
taking a break from this with this, bout 30 mins in just finished laying in basic colors

its in the early phase

>>3786251
done with it

How do I fix this pose before I render it a bit?

>>3786306
The pose makes no sense to me desu and he seems to be standing on one foot a bit.
Do you have a reference for a similar pose?

Some quick portraits, top left one turned out horrid.

>>3786316
Didnt have a refrence, was just kinda sketching without a goal, probally beter to just start again i guess

>>3786314
I sort of like it, I am a bit bothered by the empty space on her face though, on the left side where the light hits.
I think one strand of hair can fix that.
Just flip the canvas all the time, pic related, you can see how perspective on her face is a bit fucked.

>>3786328
This is
>/beg/
stuff, you will receive more helpful advice there

>>3786314
>>3786365

>>3786381
I love how 0% of any of your art is any good

i made another of these quick oil paintings. it turned out worse than the prvius one. im basicly still trying to figure out colour and how to use a brush. still maybe someone here can give me good tips. also i know this isnt /beg and i am however noone there knows shit about painting as far as i can tell

once again ref is just some shit i found around the house.

time to start paintin

rip naked chimp bro

>>3786428
ooooo noice

Can someone help me with the legs anatomies of my boi?

>>3786428
really nice, maybe could detail feet too while you were at it

>>3786415
BROS

this cintiq has upped my workflow by like 3000%

should I put clothes on the gril?

>>3786381
You know how to render, but I feel like you need to work on drawing more, and appeal. It always kind of has a stiff mechanical look to it, aside from the hair.

>>3786480
Actually looking at what you draw does this, you know.

>>3786482
back to /beg/ with your trash

>>3786503
itsh fantashtic

I like this style I did

>>3786365
I think you just need to tone down the cheeks some. Maybe blend the tits some more.

Fuggin around.

>>3786525
im gonna be brutally honest. its a terribly done drawing and the painting on top is shoepolish on a turd. yall need to just break it to him. he needs to start over

>>3786535
I think if he fixes the perspective on the fae and the chest area it is salvageable.

>>3786559
Nah dawg. He didnt spend enough time on his base drawing and went str8 to rendering

I’m try to push how garish I can make a picture and still have it be interesting to look at. I’m not a particularly good artist, but I’ve been having fun with colors. Does it burn your eyeballs? Or should I go even crazier?

>>3785061
oh yeah I'll have to clear that up. usually i check with a mirror beforehand. cheers

little landscape concept, not sure if i want to continue on it.

>>3786428
DAMN he's packing.

My first study in one point perspective in my sketchbook, am I on the right track here?

>>3783826
Nice anon keep going would like to see finished product.

>>3786863
>>3784201

Playing around with mixer brush.

I almost never paint and when I do someone on /ic said my brushwork is shit; what does that mean tho?

Can I a get a critique/advice/second look please?


>>3783865
>>3783867
>>3783870
>>3784009
>>3784783
I love these alot!

>>3785960
I'm not qualified to give advice but I really like how dark certain parts of their faces are, the guy on the right is cool
What stands out to me is the unclear foreshortening, I initially saw the right guys elbow area as a shoulder

Drew this beholder with markers yesterday

>>3786750
You can place a stick salesman somewhere and it will be good enough to post online desu, better than most trash environmental art

>>3786950
I like the vibe, but he feels very flat, like a pancake beholder.

>>3786053
The composition is a little strange, try moving the yellow bg down until it reaches her thighs, so as to connect the silhouette and make the shape more cohesive.
You could also use more bulky curves on her right shoulder, she's flexing it to keep those arms in the air, no?
The rendering looks fine.

>>3786211
Right now the entire piece, light and shade, higher or lower local value, has uniform darkness and varies only in hue and saturation, more or less. Adjusting the curves on a filter mask should help a bit.

>>3787042
One more tip, squint your eyes to see the difference - one of the pictures still reads as a fore, mid and background even after it's been blurred to shit
A value composition should be figured out with a thumbnail before you dive into rendering

>>3787049
I ain't the guy you're replying to but this is a very good test. Might just blur work every now and then myself.

>>3786522
brian that you?

>>3786522
You are not even trying anymore, Brian. Are you?
The last stuff you posted was utter garbage

>>3786969
I agree. I didn't shade enough. I'll probably go back to it at some point.

>>3783463
This was based on a ref. Please give feedback on appeal in addition to any other crits. Thank you.

>>3787139
good work on values. The face is very expressive. not bad.

>>3786868
My critique on this pic is that the central figure needs to be bluer to seem more far away, same with the hills in the distance. The colors look a BIT muddy. I would suggest sticking to a limited palette - the red in the hillside is distracting. The yellowish areas I understand more or less because when grass looks dead or has yellow flowers it can look yellowish but the red and saturated bluer areas of the hillside its just distracting. tone it down, make the focal points of this piece clear and striking-- the central floating figure and the person with the yellow coat. A part of achieving that would be toning down your palette for the background to get rid of arguably unnecessary distraction. keep painting-- the sky looks nice btw.

>>3786966
cool thanks bro.

>>3787042
>>3787049
Thanks a lot.
I understand what you mean exactly but I am also in a weird position where I want it to look like a desert in zenith with very overblown light.
The composition is fucked but as I said in the thread I think it's better to finish a piece and start next piece with the lessons you learned instead of sticking with one piece for too long unless that piece actually matters to you.
Thanks a lot, I will think about the lighting for now.

Did this for proportion practice, and I don't think it is worth practicing form rendering, as I would rather start something new, but I would like to hear if you can spot any oversight, whether they be about proportions or something else.

Think I'm gonna call this done.

>>3786306
Plant the feet on the ground. One foot in the back, one in the front, so that the center of balance is safe below him and he won't fall on his ass.
These things are difficult to fix later on.

>>3786381
In general, I think you're rendering skin too much. Too strong hue shifts, too strong value shifts, too much reflected light. Translucent surfaces are low in contrast, otherwise it looks like vax or plastic.

>>3786480
Can you elaborate for a bit - which cintiq did you get, what was your previous tablet and what makes it that much better?

>>3787367
really good work. It was hard to find some oversights but you asked for 'em. The grandma's one ear is barely noticeably bigger than the other. her lips are also off-kilter slightly. The old guys irises seem small. I don't know if that's a stylistic choice. Other than that these look great. keep up the good work.

>>3787371
love it. looks like a magazine illustration. Really good simple rendering. The guy with the green shorts, I wish his back had slightly more detail but that's it.

cant wait to add color.

i need help ;o

>>3787402
Looks good, thumbnail especially.

>>3787512
This has some odd allure anon, I think it's cuz you added shadows under him so he looks like he's actually there. I recommend making your linework a lot thinner esp cuz you're pretty good at values. What kinda brush do you use?

>>3787504
The Maxilla and chin were pushed a bit too much forward.

>>3787527
The brush:
>It is the simple round brush in Procreate only with the minimum opacity turned up a bit.

And for the linework, i dont really know yet how im gonna do this. I am only used to thick line work like this pic (couple years ago).

any tips?

>>3787504
>>3787539

>>3787541
Thick lines are a cope anon. What I recommend is making a layer on top where you do a full pen-style linework of your piece in a very bright color, probs red or blue, reduce the opacity of that layer and then do lineless painting underneath it. After you've got the major bits blocked in you can turn off the line layer and voila, you're painting without lines.

>>3787539
Not OP but the original looks better. wtf are you talking about

>>3785959
I'm gonna need your blog, chief.
Also arms of left and middle girl seems kind of short.

my third oil painting. wet on wet. in general any advice is wellcome. its shit i know but im still gonna do one every day cause its fun as fuck to do. i probably should be doing layrs and simpler object though.

for some reason it looked better before i added the background.

Currently.

>>3787552
He is right, the original looks like she is pushing her jaw forward, as if she is a fucking orc or some shit.
The fix isn't a good one, but the construction of her jaw is wrong.

>>3787504
A lot better, I still think the perspective on her face is fucked but if you can't be bothered to fix it, just finish it already.

>>3787582
Because values of the box and background got mixed and you lost the silhouette. If you lighten up the values of the box it can work better. or in reverse lighten the values of background.
>>3787583
>/beg/
Everything about her body is completely fucked.

painted a landscape

drawings of my characters.

>>3787614
did more to this

>>3787636


>>3787402 lil update


lazy stuff brian.

>>3783941
regular girl
haven't drawn humans in a while

>>3787545
thanks for the feedback anon, gonna try that on my next piece.
done with this one for now.
tried to fix the line work abit.

>>3787607
I literally traced her body from El Poser 3D...

Did some studies and tried Proko's robo bean maneuver.

>>3787646
I look forward to more of your work

>>3787660
If by literally you mean loosely, sure. I don't know El Poser 3D but I googled it and the models don't look like that.

>>3783872
someone is angwy

>>3787683
LOL I'll post the model. Hold on, be right back.

>>3787371
my old one was an intuos pro. i now have a cintiq 16 that just came out starting at 650$. compared to the pro, my measuring is much more accurate and it's an overall much more enjoyable experience. Before i'd paint maybe once a week, but in 2 days i did 3; 1 of which i need to finish

>>3787660
Then you traced it like shit.
The body is broken and has no form.

>>3787704
Fuck, I spent 500 on intuos Pro.
Maybe I should sell it and but intuos 16?

>>3787740
Seek help for your issues.

>>3787744
cintiq 16 you mean? yes i highly recommend it and i never shill shit ever.

i cant paint good. but it was fun pretending.

>>3787764
I like it, anon, reminds me of morrowind. The green touches on the ends of the land really bring it to life. The cliffs in the background aren't very good though, their structure doesn't make sense and they seem to be textured rather than solid forms.
Side note, how did you move from black and white to colored?

>>3787758
Is there a big jump between cintiq 16 and a real cintiq?

>>3787755
I don't have issues.
breasts do not connect to the chest that way, pectoral muscles do not transition into shoulders like that, your back is randomly over inflated, perspective on your legs is non-existent even though seemingly there is a front leg and a back one and your went completely lazy with toes.
The fuck are you talking about? the form is completely shit. Post the 3d mesh so I can show you why exactly.

>>3787696
and anon was never heard from again

>>3787784
compare the price of a cintiq 16 and a 16 pro. A cintiq is a 'real' cintiq lol wym?

>>3787770
> how did you move from black and white to colored?

basically just this

>clip mask layer> set layer to overlay> add color over top of layer>merge layers> paint over single layer

>>3787770
thakns im gonna go back and flateen them now that u said that.

>>3787770
just search up clip making in photoshop. and on the layers tap to the right, where your layers are, set the blending mode to overlay.

>>3787862
Magnificient tweaks, tho I would perhaps make the cliff angle downwards towards the bottom of the foremost island because that gives the composition better lines.
And I will try this clipping thing. It seems complicated but perhaps useful.

>>3787864
oh its super easy. and once you learn it. you'll never go back!

>>3787871
I didn't immediately like the way Overlay looked on top of a black and white portrait when I tried to paint flesh tone (I use Krita but I believe it's doing the same thing you're doing)
Do you shift your colors or something?

>>3785960
Copy it by using grid and take the original Pic and put it on black and white filter. And that is.

>>3787896
yeah my process involves a lot of subtle variations. i tweak every hue and gradient. lots of tweaking.

here i managed to save my progress just as i started laying colors.

>krita

ive never used krita not sure

>>3787871
>>3787927
Clipping is a crutch, if you get too used to it you will get fucked
Learn how to paint everything you would want to paint and then use tools to speed up the process
that is why a lot of digital art looks so digital, because it's fundamentally segmented due to the way most tools work

>>3783463

>>3787941

>digital art looks so digital

are you being serious?

>Clipping is a crutch

yeah? and so is using a ruler, but i agree if you use one too much your lines will be too straight.

>>3784201
hands are fucked

>>3787941
>Clipping is a crutch, if you get too used to it you will get fucked

right, so what your saying is totally retarded. here, feast your eyes on some professional clip mask art you dunce.

http://floobynooby.blogspot.com/2011/03/samurai-jack-background-art.html

>>3784441
flat

>>3787960
Can you read?
>Learn how to paint everything you would want to paint and then use tools to speed up the process
Once you have actually mastered the form and once you actually know how to paint you can start using clipping masks and other tools to achieve your desired effect, but
>>3787954
>and so is using a ruler
Is unironically true. If you can not draw straight lines without a ruler you should probably practice more because this will for ever limit you, even though using a ruler as a tool in itself isn't bad.
Do whatever the fuck you want really, I'm just saying that art of Samurai jack for example has amazing edge control, silhouettes are always clear because of stellar interplay of dark and light. In your painting, even though it is nice, there is loss of form between the foreground and background in some areas.
I am saying that art crew of Samurai Jack could draw what they draw probably in any medium.

>>3787977
they used tape and stencils. which is essentially what clip masking is, but digital medium.

>>3787942
the shoulder is broken, and it is sort of hanging in the air, rendering on the right breast is confusing and ruins the shape of it, making it seem like a baloon even though the lines themselves indicate more weight
hands are just lazy desu, I don't know maybe she is supposed to hold something? that's why they are so flat?
her leg to the left is also busted, move it deeper into perspective and then further a bit to the left
The face and the other leg look nice

>>3787983
The reason why I am personally against jumping on to tools like this is because often times our skills are not developed enough to create good art even without them, let alone to utilize the tool as a proper aid that it is meant to be.
My main point is that despite the fact that this looks cool
>>3787927
it could have been a lot better if the artist would focus a bit more on the importance of values to convey a silhouette when making environmental art
Pic related

>>3787994

So,
I set up the perspective grid on this...
Now how did it get all fucked up?

Its an octagonal shaped room, did I mess something up for this reason?

I would imagine there being a fireplace on each of the 8 sides, but when I placed the two on the sides they look weird.

>>3787994
okay fair point. well once you learn fundies, the world is yours, there are no rules, only results.

>>3788003
Think about it logically dude. An octagon has to have a sum of 1080 degrees. I assume you want all the angles to be equal, otherwise the room would look wonky.
If I am understanding it correctly basically either the fireplace behind is the corner or it is the side. If it is a corner than it is a 90 degree corner and that can not make an equilateral octagon. If it is a side then it is clearly shorter than the sides to the left and right.
think of how this room would look from top.

>>3786482
such ugly rendering

>>3788003
>>3788010
Additionally your fireplaces aren't even centered, both of the side fireplaces seem to be skewed closer to the corners close to the bottom of the painting as opposed to the fireplace in the back which is dead center. The bookcases also don't make much sense, I assume that the corners are right out of the field of view, but I think that would make the parts of the bookcases closer to us shorter than the ones we already see.

>>3787504
no talent found

help me with my composition bros. i might change the oak to a pine tree. basically its conan weary from travel resting from a rainstorm under a tree

>>3787942
beg

>>3788025
fix tree. make it symmetrical.

>>3788051
so instead of an oak do a pine? oaks are asymmetrical. well at least most of them.

might do a foggy forest as a bg. help me brothas

>>3787961
It's still a WIP. I had done essentially zero rendering for that cap. Since I had just finished the line work at that time.

>>3787961
ur mum is flat geheh

>>3788095
fuck off.

>>3788112
pyw

Still working. Almost done.
Gonna fix forehead contour, cast shadows on ground, work on book a little, then I hope I can spray this thing.
Learned a lot.

>>3788116

i gave you a solution man. and you didn't listen. then you keep asking for help. excuses excuses excuses.

>>3788131
damn anon. you've been chippin away at this for 2 weeks now? looking really nice, and good to see you developed the jaw bones.

>>3788138
asperger's alert

>>3788095
and why is your tree made of rubber? it has a floppy dick gesture. fix that too.

>>3788143

stop projecting m8

>>3788140
Thanks. Can’t wait to spray and move on. Gonna get better paper too!

>>3788144
So just make it a hard dick gesture?

>>3788146
Its okay to be insecure anon

>>3788149
lawl yeah

>>3788152
Word ill get it nice and hard until the sap runneth over

>>3788150
what did they do to you anon? were you always anti social?

>>3788155
O boy. Sorry i didnt change my tree and it damaged your gigantic ego. Obvi u got butthurt, i cant help that, just learn to move on anon. Its part of growing up.

>>3788161

don't apologize man. you can't help have aspergers and insecurity. it's totally cool.

>>3788164
Wow its almost like you took what i said and then used a reverse card. Touché anon. Thanks for sharing your painting btw you totally established dominance there.

>>3788170

you said pyw. so i did. no problem, and happy painting to you.

>>3788172
True, i gotta give you kudos for that. Same to you dude

>>3787942
>>3788027

Im done with this thing. 12 hours. With breaks.

>>3788207
I didn't follow on your conversation but I think this is really cool

Going to do a painting based on this quick sketch

>>3788184
meant to reply to >>3787985

>>3785914
Cool colors kill it for me too. It looks less 3D and more flawed.

>>3787661
pls resize to 1000 wide

>>3787664
<3

>>3788184
a bit better, shoulders are still a bit wonky and hands are still weird because they are stiff
look at gestures

>>3788207
I love it
what do you use to create the finishing touches?

>>3787152
looks good, there's ya dick sucking.

>>3786053
don't do that slime looking shading ever again, looks disgusting
also block and shape the body muscles better
I did some shit repaint

>>3788010
>>3788018
nevermind its fine i'll just leave it

>>3787582
>>3787581
you lost your value range adding the background. that's why most artists tone their canvas first. read alla prima II before wasting more canvas and paint.

>>3788905
im retard...
sorry for fullsize

>>3788908
This is rad anon

>>3789003
dafuq is "rad anon"?

can anyone help me with this?

ive learned online that u need to change the hue when doing shadows and stuff, so i did this with the face, but have no idea how to do it wih the other colors to keep it consistent.

trying to stop using multipy everytime

>>3789005

The piece is rad, anon.

Im drawing a spooky munster

>>3787049
Thankyou for this very useful advice, I'm not that person but your posts have helped me.

>>3787159
Thanks for the crits anon, will definitely implement all of that when I find some free time.
Yeah, muddy colors or just out of control palette seems to be a pervasive problem for me.

Crap, the red stands out that much eh? I'm red-green color blind, and it just looks like green and brown to me lol.

Been working on this sketch yesterday and today. Would appreciate any feedback.

>>3789410
Every single mark, be it shading or line,or even an editorial decision, conveys information you are presenting to your viewer.

>>3789410
Do not have ANY romantic attachment to your ability to produce an image.

>>3789410
You’re female. This is why u should hear me.

>>3789516
Thanks I'll try to remember that.

>>3789517
I'm never sentimental about my own work. If it looks bad I'm probably the first to admit it.

>>3789518
Why are you just assuming I'm female?

>>3789694
I like your gestural lines that suggest moment they're very energetic. Are you planning on picking one of your subjects and really developing them?

>>3789566
Th female comment was not a criticism.
It’s a lovely drawing but could be enhanced a little by diving into your values a little more, but be conservative.
Still keep the overall softness but maybe in a few places vary your line and edge hardness in order to accentuate the softness of this lovely female.
Right now there is an overall softness that kinda denies this drawing from having any part of it impressing itself on the viewer.
You could keep it as it is and not much would be lost.
But, I think, if you do go at it with a mindset towards emphasis, go slowly.
Maybe put the pic in a sketch program and play a little as to not alter the drawing.
But when you go the the actual drawing, go slow. You got time. No reason to destroy this lovely drawing.
P.s. I was drunk when I posted my first 3 comments. There was no offense meant.
Sometimes I get cocky and have to slap myself.

But anyway, I do really like this.
And mega bonus points for the trad.
And I cannot wait to see the completed piece.

>>3789566
Oh, and if you do rework, consider making the hand less prominent and more slender.

>>3790223

Thank you for all your advice. I very much appreciate it. I think I agree she needs darker values. I get nervous getting too dark, but you're right she suffers from the value range not making anything very prominant. I also think I agree about the hand being more slender. I'll try your suggestion about scanning and altering it a bit before committing to changes. Thanks for the Idea.

I'm kind of new to drawing. I'm self taught, but I love to draw. I appreciate your thoughts. Thank you again.

Also I wasn't offended. I was more amused. I get confused for a girl a lot at work. So no offense taken. :)

>>3790492
Oops. Sorry dude. I assumed because the drawing is done with such grace. And I was a little wasted:) But yeah. Go slow. I think you got something there.

>>3790164
shit
>>3789694
shit
>>3789410
shit
>>3789091
good
>>3788131
shit
>>3788138
almost god
>>3788095
terrible
>>3788025
terrible
>>3788003
good
>>3787994
you almost had the composition too
bad
>>3787614
kindergarten?
>>3787541
reddit
>>3787539
reddit
>>3787512
study anatomy dingus
>>3787504
reddit
>>3787371
really good actually
>>3787367
very nice
>>3787152
bad
>>3787139
learn how light works faggot
>>3786950
reddit

>>3790604

Got work posted?

>>3783463
Finished this today

>>3790917

I like the overall mood of it. I like the composition, but I think you should try to push and develope your character's clothes a bit more. They just seem to bleed into the background. I'm not saying that's a bad effect everywhere, but some places need to be defined to draw focus. Either way good job.

>>3790604
>shit
why do you think so?

>>3790604
these are the worst kind of people on /ic/

>>3790917
It doesn't look finished.