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The two mediums have different properties and require different skills. Try to analyze what exactly you do differently, as well as how you approach each medium. I know for me I feel constrained somewhat by the size of my tablet so I tend to subconsciously draw more smaller more cautious lines when doing digital.

>>3780954
If you're more comfortable drawing traditionally then just do so and then scan your drawing to finish it digitally.
Problem solved.

>>3780964
This is what it do and it could not feel better

>>3780962
>>3780964
>>3780967

All I can say is that I feel more comfortable in the traditional way than using tablet.

Just check this piece of shit that I attached. In tablet I have to drawing over three sketches until start the lineart.
Meanwhile, on traditional, I make sketches on less of 10 minutes.

I have fear of buy a cintiq and realize that I still have the same problem.
I have fear of buy a cintiq and realize that I still have the same problem.

>>3780981
Use your tablet to ink and color if sketching is so much of a hassle.

>>3780954
LMAO (laughig my ass off) WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS, OP? ARE YOU A JAP OR WHAT? ARE YOU A WEEB? DJSSHSHHSJSJS OH MY GOD KILL YOURSELF FAGGOT

The obvious answer is line weight.

Your traditional work has varied lineweight with thicker lines for countours, while your digital doesn't. It's that simple.

>>3781024
(actually frustrated)

>>3780954
-you have a vertical/horizontal composition in the digital work, stiffens out the drawing, loses sense of movement. Things that are diagonal are usually in motion, things that are vertical or horizontal are stable, stern, stiff.
-Anatomy is less believable in the digital work.
-colors and line weight are different.

So I'm guessing your traditional work is based off years of muscle memory/feeling, and switching to digital that's where your knowledge of anatomy, composition and everything else begins to crumble. It's probably like trying to draw a figure upside down.

>>3780981

>>3780981
Try taping a piece of paper to the tablet. It's made me enjoy drawing with them more.

>>3781144
Yup, you're right.
Check my gesture sketches. I made in traditiona, too.

>>3780954
You comparing two different things and wondering why they're not the same. There's a number of ways you can approach linework on tablet. And I feel at least that when you draw on a tablet - there's much more thought has to be focused on the purpose of linework. By itself it might feel incomplete and "empty", so you either fill it with details wlile focusing on lineweight or color it.

Do not use texture that much grainy, although having a little bit of it is a nice thing. And don't draw on small canvases to not get used to "pixel smearing". Easier to control but you'll had to unlearn it sometime in future.

>>3780981
I used Intuos Pro tablet for three years, and while the painting felt pretty good there still was a huge disconnect in sketching. I could sketch digitally nowhere near the level I sketch with 2B pencil and paper. I bought a Cintiq couple months ago and it's a totally different experience. The painting admittedly feels better, almost like real gouache, but the drawing is absolutely as easy with pencil and paper. The disconnect is nowhere there. I couldn't do nice curved lines with my graphics tablet (felt so weird doing curved lines on the table with my eyes on the screen) and that feeling is completely gone.

I have Cintiq 24 pro, can't speak for other tablets. It has no parallax so it's super intuitive. I do not regret this purchase.

>>3780954
then just scan and trace over it, you fukin retard beg..

>>3780954
>practice traditional for all of life
>use digital for a fraction of the time

use it more and it'll get quicker, I don't think I'm significantly faster or slower on either medium now and they eventually even out in convenience.

>>3780954
then scan and trace over it fuckin retard ffs..

>>3780954
Hi, Trad chad here.
Here's a tip if you want to do traditional and plan on scanning & coloring your art.
If you don't wonna spend time painting behind or reinking everything in digital, you can alias your work and fill it in like they do in anime production through threshold. With lines this messy, it would be a lot harder to do, but if you were to use cleaner lines ( you can always go over with a fresh paper tracing the lines cleanly with a pencil) you could easily achieve this.
Once you have the clean image (assuming you use photoshop) (you might have to blur the lines to remove the noise and bring up the contrast first)
>image
>adjustment
>threshold
and now you have your art as aliased lines to fill in.

Hope this helps in your traditional endeavors.

>>3782062
I use sai and sai2 but I appreciate your advice, dude.

When I work in traditional, after made a sketch I scan it and later I apply digital color.
What's bothers me is the fact that I buyed a wacom tablet (pth651) with the hope of improve my artwork but this doesn't happened.
I have drawing for at least 25 years but I have almost 3 years doing on digital tablet. My 1st tablet was a wacom ctl-480

I use sai and sai2 but I appreciate your advice, dude.

When I work in traditional, after made a sketch I scan it and later I apply digital color.
What's bothers me is the fact that I buyed a wacom tablet (pth651) with the hope of improve my artwork but this doesn't happened.

I have drawing for at least 25 years but I have almost 3 years doing on digital tablet. My 1st tablet was a wacom ctl-480

The pic that attached is an artwork that I made drawing the gesture in traditional and later I drawing on digital using the gesture as reference.

>>3782084
a) If you don't have photoshop You can do this externally using GTS, you can download it from the open toonz website ( it's what Ghibli uses :https://opentoonz.github.io/e/
b) Even though this situation sucks, at least now you know that you prefer traditional and can look for other ways to improve rather than keeping on digital. knowing how you work best always helps. Now, I would say take a month off digital and then try it again to see if it's just fatigue. Sometimes you can just be tired of a medium. If it's still an annoyance then just keep at it with trad.

>>3781144
If I'm being completely honest I believe it's cause of the amount of structure you set up before hand. Limiting yourself to those boxes and models makes it much harder to dynamicize drawings. Try sketching a gesture and then maybe the structure.

>>3781523
It seems to me that you lose your gesture in the process, when you draw digital.
Do you zoom a lot? It could be an issue.

Also wacom has a thing called "precision mode" that allows you to draw 1:1, it's in the options for the radial menu.

>>3780954
The digital one looks good you just fucked up the gesture and your markmaking in some places is too clean? Like the lines in the abdomen are sharp graphic marks but in the pencil drawing they're softer. Maybe practice hatching or something with the tablet.

The digital sketch looks good, the traditional one looks like a middle schooler copying Rumiko Takahashi

Another example of my issues with drawing tablet.

>>3782433
>Dec 2019

>>3782433
>Dec 2019
Based future-anon

>>3782433
OP here!
Sorry, should it says:
>Dec, 2018.

:V

>>3782433
Lol at the middle head.

Try drawing on a lower resolution, it seems like you are going for 300 ppi, 72 is enough for digital display. Higher resolution can be a lot more frustrating as the volumes are much harder to control.
If you plan on printing your work into a physical form. I suggest you digital sketch on lower res, like what you would do with a pencil on paper, increase the res, then proceed to ink on higher res like what you would do with a pen.
Additionally, digital pens aren't like physical ones, it can go finer than any real pen could. A 7pt on 72ppi with my setting feels like a 0.03mm pen. I can barely use 0.05mm in real life, there is no way in hell I can use a 0.03 unless I zoom all the way in. Just because you can go fine doesn't mean you have to.
Zooming in with digital is one of the bad habit that people often develop. Unlike traditional where you will always see everything at the corner of your eyes, what is on the screen is what you can see. When you can't see the overall image of your art, you will often create unnatural and stiff poses as everything is nonuniform.
If you crop just the boobs, it look great, if you crop just the leg and tilt it (since you probably rotate when you draw that part), it look great, but together they don't look right. When people zoom in, they have the tendency to draw parts individually and not as a whole.
Try lower resolution, you will be able to draw much faster. Pen pressure is much easier to control. You don't have to zoom as much to see things, which allow you to better compost your image.

A bad workman blames his tools

>>3780954
your digital one looks better here overall. The traditional one looks more visually interesting because of the line weight, but the digital one looks better anatomically. The face looks better as well.
>>3782433
None of these look great, but the traditional one looks best literally because you drew it better. That's the only reason.

Just scan your traditional shit and trace it. Lots of artists do that.

>>3782984
Hi. Thanks for the advice.

I drawing this one in a 1200x1200px canvas size and w/out doing zoom.

>>3782084
What I do is I draw on paper, scan, edit and fix mistakes on computer, print and lightbox. And scan again.

Excessive, but it's one way to achieve your full potential, by using both tools. A tablet a good investment either way.

>>3780954
i like your work
do you have a blog?

>>3784238
I have a twitter account:
@yashiroArt