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Expressions reference thread

Post humans pulling funny faces

>> No.3772995

>>3772993
>mfw the absolute state of Britain right now

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>>3772993

>> No.3773051
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>> No.3773055
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>> No.3773113

Is this that jimmy "painter" guy trying to get more meme images to grid?

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>> No.3773169
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>> No.3773170
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>> No.3773175

>>3773113
Yes.

>>3772993
Fuck off, Jim.

>> No.3773184

>>3772995
JUST

>> No.3773200
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>>3772993
classic but still a personal favorite

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>>3772993

>> No.3773460

>>3773170
why do all down faces look so much like each other? I mean, I know it's the eyes, but why do they all have the eyes like that, regardless of sex, age, or so on

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>>3772993

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finna do a banner bottom frame painting

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>> No.3774905

>>3773462
10/10

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>>774648
rude

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>search my hard drive for saved face references
>type "face"
>600 results

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>>3773117
Someone on /ic/ tried to draw this once.

>> No.3774944

>>3774931
Gona take a wild guess and say you found that on /beg/

>> No.3775258 [DELETED] 
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draw one

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draw juan. made this on 5/5/17 and nobody did

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>>3775258
top right or bottom left maybe?
>>3775267
2 or 0 or 8 or 9 are funniest. 7 and 1 seem like actual good references for pron drawings.

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>>3775281
>>3775258

actually meant bottom right and top left

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angle a

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angle b

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>> No.3775298 [DELETED] 

>>3773021
>>3773062
>>3773117
>>3774915
op said humans, not apes

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>>3775298

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>> No.3775304

>>3774944
Nah. Someone posted the original image in its own thread and said "draw this"

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>>3775298
rude

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>>3775298

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>> No.3775315

>>3775308
can confirm. my grandmother was jewish. hitler raped her in auschwitz in front of my grandfather. she was diying of fasting, but she stil laughed at his little aryan cock. good times....

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>>3775315
what did they mean by this?

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>>3775298
you gotta problem you gotta do what gotta get did

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alright I'm done. Finna ruin most of these images with in 2019. But I won't if you race me and make a better painting first. You can save them.

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>>3773175
I wasn't OP. Started posting >>3774306

Good thread. Saved >>3773055 and>>3773063 so far.

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>>3773113
like how lame are you that anyone trying to start a thread on animated or funny face references
A: has to be that one guy, and
B: Needs to be ignored.

Like animated, practicing drawing dynamic faces is good practice. Why would you actively avoid things out of fear that some boogieman may be behind it. Seems an ngmi mindset tbphwyf.

>> No.3775486

>>3775455
because you've done it before and seeing you grid something for an ugly painting makes me not want to spend time studying that image

>> No.3775497

>>3775455
stop posting this fucking shitty paitings you make in EVERY BLOODY THREAD you fucking wanker. no one cares about them.

>> No.3775515

>>3774306
gah she's so cute

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>>3775486
>>3775497
I've posted like 90% of the content ITT. Cry more bbs.

Here's what I've been doing the last hour or so. Should her right hand or left hand be offering food to the giant dog? How should she be holding the rifle?

>> No.3775604

>>3775603
she should shove both her hands up your arsehole, faggot

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>>3775604
what die they mean by this?

also >>3774906

pyw

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I'm trying to create a reason to be able to justify drawing this without filling like a dang prevert

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Asking here because I don't wanna waste a potentially good thread to ask. It's not a face, but is there any way someone can post a 3 4ths reference of this pose? I have no idea what to look up for it aside from sitting with elbows on knees but almost everything is a yoga pose. This is the closest I've gotten but I need it pointed another way.

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>>3772993

>> No.3776526

>>3773170
Why does this dude look like a priest who is disappointed in me?

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>>3775951
there is no try only doo

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>>3772993
which one is best one

>> No.3778582

>>3774308
cute giraffe

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>>3778582
she's the giraffe equivalent of hobbiton qts maybe

>> No.3778831

>>3778827
she has a neck for it at the very least

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>> No.3778923

>>3772993
can i get some higer resolution better quality pics please? thnx

>> No.3778963

poor soul.

>> No.3779340

>>3776488
Sorry anon, people are avoiding this thread for a good reason

>> No.3779409 [DELETED] 

>>3779340
who is avoiding the thread? I'd ask if you are but you're posting in it. And what's the good reason? That you suck and you have no interest in references or being able to draw things with humor?

>> No.3779411 [DELETED] 

>>3778908
grabbing dat but

>> No.3779438

>>3779409
I know you want to leave on an epic sick burn, but I wasn't implying I was one of those people and you need to calm down. I'm taking all of these references as I type this as it's useful practice. I was just saying that you may want to ask elsewhere. If you get a proper answer here, whatever.

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>>3772993
nigey

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>>3779524

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>> No.3780473

>>3775298
Blacks are a rare treat in references. Stop complaining you insecure /pol/tard

>> No.3780476

>>3775298
Fuck off

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all those references posted.

Lost.

Like tears. In piss.

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Because no else has or will...

>> No.3784041

>>3779524
That grin, lol

>> No.3784070

>>3780473

>Blacks are a rare treat

cringe

>> No.3784409

>>3772993
Fuck off Jimmy you schizoprenic retard.