/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

I drew this to impress my hot cousin while she sat next to me watching, it took about half an hour. I get the feeling drawing a pre-existing character lets me punch above my weight even if I got the costume design a little wrong and the values are all over the place. It was fun.

>>3774357
Probably a good idea to draw on a paper without line next time

>>3774357
ugh, matey. I think you start posting in the /beg/ thread next time

dont know whats up with the other thread, but oke

so there is a story behind this drawing;
>went to gf in a different town
>biked to the biggest train station in amsterdam
>bag with ipad, laptop, school stuff and drawing for my aplication at an art school
>locked bike and took train, but notice i dont have my bag anymore
>have crazy panic attack
>get out of train and take train back to amsterdam, takes about half hour
>run to bike where i think i left it, its not there
>really sad, go to lost & found
>this couple arrives just when i do
>thye have my bag
>let them know its mine, they give it back
>ready to scuk their dicks at this point, so thankful
>promise them a drawing

this is the process so far, really wanna do good on this one. any feedback?

>>3774368
There a nice people in this world, good you got your bag back. With this being said, keep working on it, I don't see anything wrong with it so far.

Leaving some randomness. I would love C&C on color, values and so, what's working what isn't.
I'm already aware I need to work on my forms/edges, study wings and feathers, textures in general and I'm missing some reflections, like the horns on the head.
Thanks in advance.

>>3774371
Arms look a bit noodly and could be thicker.

Starting on this commission today, will be fun.
It's going to be a magical restaurant.

>>3774382
Could I ask what you use to generate the perspective lines if that's ok?

>>3774385
Just plain Photoshop honestly. I have premade one by making vertical and horizontal lines, duplicating the layer, turn that layer by 45°, merge, duplicate, turn again and so on until you have many outgoing lines from a focal point. Then when using that in an image put the first grid onto the canvas, position it and then duplicate and move the second one along the horizon line by pressing shift and dragging it to the side. Voila'.
I would post my template but it's too big for 4chan

>>3774392
Cool

>>3774378

I disagree. I think you could actually make the whole character even more lanky. Would be more spooky like that. GJ on everything so far!

>>3774396
Found one of my simpler ones anon

>>3774407
Thanks anon!

>>3774368

Looks good so far, carry on. I think you can have a little more saturation in the darker parts of the cheek. Jammer dat je al een vriendin hebt.

>>3774421
Jesus Christ, how horrifying.

Dog burger mimic from the procedurally generated prompt thread

>>3774485
god damn
also, does it have two tongues, or is the bottom thing a sausage?

>>3774493
I'm not sure, I was thinking it looked like a mimic so the bottom one's probably real. Or maybe it's a fake sausage tongue to lure in prey.

>>3774493
the bottom thing is it's dick

>>3774357
Lol

>>3774357
what the fuck is this
>>3774368
really bad
>>3774371
disgraceful
>>3774382
looks ok so far
>>3774407
????? fuck off
>>3774421
nice drawing but bad subject
>>3774485
weird but ok
>>3774504
cool
>>3774545
awesome

>>3774421

Looks...alright. Could be better.

>>3774620
>>3774622
Great in depth critique man. I will definitely draw it better next time now.

Trying to do a generic buff armored bear.
Any critique on anatomy/pose? Which looks better?

value study with some mechanical junk thrown in

>>3774352
been struggling with all those metal textures

>>3774723
looks cool, only thing I can see is the furnace seems like it would fall off his shoulder with the way he's holding it. Left side would need to be brought forward, but it's no big deal.

Concept design for a project I'm doing with some friends.
Still a WIP, but I'm almost finished

i dont know where im going with this

>>3774357
This is really good anon but try adding color

Any critique on the anatomy?
Not sure what to do with the hidden leg that would not look too confusing.

>>3774830
her right eye is too high and hips too low

This is absolute trash and I know it, but I have to finish it otherwise it will have defeated me. Made me realize how much I'm crippling myself and all the mistakes i make, so I'm starting up a dynamic sketching course.

The whole thing would be a lot easier to do digitally, what fucks me up most IMO is getting consistent value and depth to each plane or surface of an object. I can envision the trunk twisting and bulging while drawing but can't describe it with my pen, which would be simple to do digitally

also
>tfw ballpoint poorfag
>tfw that squished right side against the edge of the paper
>tfw can't fucking draw trees

>>3774830
Try moving her nose and mouth to the left, and maybe shortening her neck. It's looking cool though, I like that belt.

What am I doing wrong, guys?

>>3774989
Fuck

>>3774723
Blizzard Entertainment/10

>>3774655
Learn how to draw an entire bear. Dont be lazy and stick a bear head and hands on a beefy guys body.

The whole pelvis and legs look lazy as fuck. Draw the whole thing not just the upper body.

>>3774655
nice
>>3774699
cool
>>3774723
meh
>>3774762
trash
>>3774783
kill yourself
>>3774830
ok i guess
>>3774989
pretty good

>>3774997
eveything is too uniform
line weight (even with a bic you could get some thicker lines), hatching, branching of the tree
Also some of your hatching doesn't follow the form, and some is chicken-scratchy.
Can be improved but it's pretty nice.

>>3774996
You should have a better foundation (=loomis)
Draw the structure before. Also, get down big flat colors and start building above your values, now it's a muddy mess.
Then last thing is edge control, you should have sharp edges to define the forms.

>>3774762
Very cool. Arms are on the bishop look a it long?
Otherwise it would look better if the chess pieces had hands, like the wizard one.
Do you have a game in mind? Concept looks interesting.

>>3774382
Looks great, the trees are a bit uniform and not very natural looking, maybe get some ref?

>>3774723
Why are the chain ends red hot? doesn't seem to make sense.
As other anon pointed, the lantern should be more firmly on his shoulder, overlapping the body.

>>3774699
values look aight, proportions less so.

>>3774996

Played around with my mouse and the liquify tool and I think I improved it

Also what >>3775030 said but imo you should just ignore color altogether and focus on drawing + value.

>>3774357
One of the very best I've seen in a while.

>>3775020
well thats pretty rude

I'm /BEG/ as fuck and not gonna make it. But drawing is fun, so it's ok

>>3775164
forgot pic.
Any tips?

Attempt at a plant

>>3775171
stop drawing brown people.

fast doodle (-:

I did a quick sketch. Don't think I got the values right - too pusy to go darker. Also totally messed up the proportions up. I think I need to do more construction and less sight drawing.

>>3775344
another one : P

>>3775344
>>3775352
>>3775404
/beg/

>>3775404
getting wonkier : ss

>>3775429
hehe, no just drunk

>>3775434
hehe, no just /beg/

>>3775437
lol you suck
im the best

>tfw you've been in the beginner thread for 2 years

>>3775437
this is tyou, thats how ugly you are hahaha

>>3774989
>>3774997

learn to cross hatch well
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzeX84I-7OE

love some shady bitches

>>3775030
>Very cool. Arms are on the bishop look a it long?
>Otherwise it would look better if the chess pieces had hands, like the wizard one.
>Do you have a game in mind? Concept looks interesting.

You're absolutely right, now that i take a step back I see how stupid those arms are on the chess characters.
And yes, It's for a game I'm doing with some friends.
Thanks for the reply

>>3775091
dont reply to bait

Requesting critiques on the progress so far.

>>3774997
Not trash at all. Not a finished piece for framing, but not everything has to be.

>tfw ballpoint poorfag

Definitely get something better. Or just use pencil. Even a cheap pencil is better than ball point. It's hard to have expressive lines with a ball point, and I think a variance of line weight would help on a piece like this.

>tfw that squished right side against the edge of the paper

Framing is something we all learn, and you just need to plan out the drawing ahead of time. What a lot of teachers do is make you establish a faint border all around the page, yes, using rulers, it's fine, and then planning out in that space where your objects will be. It's just basic composition, and the more you do it, the better it will get.
>tfw can't fucking draw trees
Yet. This one isn't bad. Keep going. Trees have an internal logic to them, each species grows certain ways, which helps you capture the essence of it. This kind of tree, get lots of pictures of oaks, things like that.

You're being way too hard on yourself. This is a pretty damned good attempt. Stop focusing on the whole 'finishing" thing. Sometimes it's better to just move on. Maybe come back later. Learning when 'it's good enough" is hard starting out, especially with sketches. And, if this is for a painting later on, it would be pretty normal to do several drawings like this to prepare for the final, working out the issues beforehand.

Not every drawing is going to be perfect. Every artist produces way more failures than finished, especially in the beginning. Relax. You're getting there.

ok so I'm working on this doingus. In terms of what I'm trying to execute, on script it would be something like:

>Girl, keeping rifle trained on GIANT DOG, carefully offers some of her food.

Question is should she be using her right hand, on our left, to offer the food, or her left hand? Right hand seems more natural, with her left hand down by her hip an the trigger, and potentially the gun is being propped by her knees.

But if I do the opposite, she'd have her right hand down on the right of the knees keeping the gun trained, but wouldn't have a finger on the trigger.

Also where the fuck can you easily find stock footage of people holding rifles in weird ways from different angles?

>>3775599
and yeah I notice that the feet proportions are goofy. This whole thing is kind of a goofscuse to practice drawing idiot feet

>>3775599
she should shove both her hands up your arsehole, faggot

I drew this for an /a/non
>>./a/183569856
I know I could improve upon her hands, but what else?

>>3775626
>>>/a/183569856

>>3775539
pantsu bulge seems very prominent in the next-to-last frame, hip rotation and angling is so smooth, but there seems to be variation in the strength of the curve on her forearms & shoulders
what software?

>>3775539
The animation is super fluid and nice but I don't understand what the gesture she's making is supposed to mean.

>>3775614
day sza voo

i need help with the lighting in this piece

>>3775429
Am I really /beg/-tier? I should point out I'm not that wacky guy replying to you.

>>3775660


Do you think that you are? I mean, the faces you've been posting here aren't super good but they're not horribly bad either. I just feel like you could do better if you REALLY put everything into one of your creations. If you really gave it your best shot. Don't be silly. This forum is a fucking joke! I'm a fucking joke. The guy who said you were "/beg/" is a fucking joke.

This is just a huge shit-show. The people who call you shit here might just be some 10-yo kids from Russia. But I still think you should put more concentration into your work.

>>3775599
>>3775600
I'm thinking like pict related.

>>3775660
You need to put in much more effort into exactly copying the heads out and refining the rendering. /beg/ is always home to a differing array of people some of whom are better than you (and there's some people on /beg/ who are better than the people on the draw thread). Make sure that your proportions are right, measure it if that's required, resize down to a thumbnail and compare with your reference, flip both it and the reference and compare again and liquify in photoshop if necessary to fix proportions and rotate/flip the canvas if you have difficulty spotting the diffs between your painting and the ref. When that's done, repost the images.

>>3775687
>>3775692
i only made >>3775352 just to be clear.

But thanks, you're both offering good advice anyway.

>>3775690
no one cares. kill yourself.

>>3774371
blog?

drew myself

>>3775599
awful

>>3775599
>>3775600
>>3775644
>>3775690
Idk its not exactly what I was picturing. I'm satisfied enough with the effort though. Wish the rifle was slightly more angled upwards, and of course the hands could be less retarded. All of it could be better. But whatever it was a fun couple of hours.
>>3775699
The irony is that you clearly do care a lot. Sorry you're an emotional virgin that can't handle how much you've been blown the fuck out by a meme painter, but continuing your autistic vendetta does nothing other than feed me. I drink your milkshake.

>>3775736
no, i don't care. it's just really cringe to see you posting your work everywhere again and again like someone
actually gives a fuck. no one is replying. no one cares. go post your poorly drawn bullshit somewhere else.
and thanks for the insults. really edgy. trying to look superior, huh? nice job. it's a shame i can't say the same about this shit you keep posting.

>>3775736
also,
>meme painter
hell yeah, mate.

>>3775728
i like this

>>3775728
i also like this.

have i surpassed /beg/? *sigh* didnt think so

>>3775773
>no, i don't care.
People generally don't write paragraphs about how much they don't care about things.
>it's just really cringe to see you posting your work
Yeah that's because you have a lot of your own anxieties about your own production, and it makes you cringe to see people that don't have your autism.
> again and again like someone
actually gives a fuck.
Does anyone actually give a fuck about anyone else's shit?

And again, you clearly give a fuck. If you're right about my motivations, you're feeding me. You're my slut.
>no one is replying.
You're replying faster than most people respond to anything on this board. I can post something and (You) are essentially guaranteed.
>go post your poorly drawn bullshit somewhere else.
Go post your not-drawn whining about strangers in your suicide note. You aren't going to make anything. You will never be missed.
>and thanks for the insults.
They aren't insults. They're observations on your character. If who you are is insulting to you, you should change that.
> really edgy.
You're like a down pillow but covered in AIDS blood. You're weak and pathetic but you fundamentally destroy anything you interact with.
> trying to look superior, huh?
No I don't need to do shit. You're so pathetic that you make me look "superior" automatically. Your inferiority complex is well-founded. You're a genetic dead end. You die alone.
> it's a shame i can't say the same about this shit you keep posting.
Yeah because you're the pathetic ngmi virgin. Post literally anything you've made in 2019. And cry more bb.

>>3775799
nope not yet; keep workin tho.

>>3775728
I like it. Looks like autism, but sometimes drawing like a sperg helps formulate greater imagery for future doodles.
>>3775736
I kinda like this, but the face is a little butter. Her right hand is a little tiny, but the foresight is good. Keep it up.
>>3775799
I would say you're still learning, but I wouldn't hold yourself down with /beg/ thinking. You're starting to formulate shadows and depth without drawing hard lines, and that's good! Just keep it up, push yourself, and eventually you'll make things for friends. That's how I started drawing.
>>3775800
I will admit, I'm not really sure what's going on here, but I like it. Perhaps the sketchy lines represent the psychopathy involved.

And this is my doodle right now. I'm trying to figure out how to draw auburn (read: greyscale) hair in a way that doesn't look autistic. I got some demon girl I'm doodling too.

>>3775800
it's really nice to see that i managed to make you write a full essay about me. you don't know me, you're saying all of this just because you are butthurt that i don't like you shit? cool. i didn't even read the full thing. if you would work more on your drawings instead of making texts about anonymous users on 4chan you'd be a better artist. have a good day, friend.

>>3775811
>you're saying all of this just because you are butthurt that i don't like you shit?
are you*
your*

i didn't pay attention while was writing ;)

>>3775809
Apparently I'm retarded. This is my drawing.

>>3775809
>I kinda like this, but the face is a little butter
yeah that's pretty standard for the coarse for me with all this scratchman mechanical pencil drawing/no erasing drawing. I'd actually kinda say that compared to a lot of the time when I just keep stacking lines on top until I generally get a workable shape, I've kinda still left a lot of room to fuck up the face going forward.
>I will admit, I'm not really sure what's going on here, but I like it.
Thanks bud. Started as just a drawing of a generic lady face where the goal was to try and do a "Kubrick stare" where the head is slightly tilted down and the person is looking up into the camera. Then I added the mirror and background to tie it into a story idea that I have called "Oblivion" about a Russian girl on a summer work visa who gets sucked into a world of sex slavery, prostitution, and violence. It's kinda like Taxi Driver/Mean Streets meets Drive. Kinda written around the song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtH68PJIQLE

>Perhaps the sketchy lines represent the psychopathy involved.
That's my argument for why chickenscratching and spastic hatching can be a workable novel aesthetic. If the point is to create an aesthetic atmosphere that accentuates the feelings of anxiety and uncertainty and unfamiliarity with the situation they find themselves involved in, I think that scratches and sketchy lines could be a good way to accentuate that and create a sense of discomfort and frustration or whatever.

>>3775736
>>3775599
>>3775600
you don't need to respond with an essay. I like the idea and I like think you're doing an interesting job of illustrating story action in competent-enough ways. Without any context >>3775736 is a pretty compelling image. Like the hand sucks and whatever she's holding is nondescript, but I get that it's a character looking at something threatening, making a peace offering with their finger on still on the trigger. I'd say the face should be more stressed or the mouth could be better, but it's not a bad start.

>>3775819
Excellent. I also had issues drawing women, actually. It's very easy to go from girl to babushka from some barbaric eastern EU nation.

>>3774371
Nightmare material o_o still, nicely done!
>>3774382
Can't wait for this to be finished
>>3774485
So cute
>>3774723
Awesome character design. That thing in his left hand looks like it lacks some support.
>>3774762
Nice!
>>3774997
I like how expressive this is. Have you done etching before? Pretty sure you'd be good at it

My pic is mostly an excuse to try out this color palette I liked

>>3775599
>>3775600
>>3775644
>>3775690
>>3775736
kinda turning into prime time angelina jolie. did a whle thing where I tried having her right foot have the blanket wrapped around it and then just erased it all real quick.
>>3775837
hey lookit I turned the nondescript thing into a stuffed monkey!
>>3775845
>It's very easy to go from girl to babushka from some barbaric eastern EU nation.
especially when you're attracted to dirtiness and grime and stress lines and stuff like like this guy *points thumbs at armpits*

>>3775855
I like the colors, but it vaguely looks like there's a severed butt painting.

>>3774997
I like this

>>3775888
Lol, i noticed just now. xd

>>3775887
flipped the wrist. It was getting ridiculous trying to make that work. And then I kept just trying to shorten the forearm that I was like why am I even doing all this. She's not offering a snack no mo she holding a dang teddy.

Thumb is still too small. Still looks like doody mostly.

devil dudes.
what do you think?

>>3775901
Very nice! Blog?

How do i hide the white of the paper?

>>3775855
cool

>>3775899

I like a lot about this

trying to draw some pit porn

also it's a part of the story between >>3775887
and >>3775600 where she sees a Force Awakens poster in the post apocalyptic wastes and does her hair while Dog chews on a car.

>>3775995
could try some thin watercolour

How'd I do?

inspired by this ones nose:
>>3771676

>>3775855
This you?

Have it as my lock background.

If you, really nice.

Can I make it as a pron artist?

Any advice on that?
Or should I give up? It looked much better in my head.

>>3776416
Have you studied real bears? He looks decent, but in the way a big, bulky guy wearing a bear mask would look decent.

>>3776418
Are you the same guy from before?
Maybe it's very idiotic but what I really wanted to do was not a real bear but a Zangief type of dude. Actually I've drawn more bears than these types of physique if you can believe it.
That's why that's the one comment that I didn't care about.

>>3776423
Not that anon btw. I think you achieved what you were going for, it definitely does like like a built-up bear guy. Now that I look a bit closer, the slouched over posture does make him look more bear-like.

Fuck.
This one should be a bit better than the previous >>3776416, no?

>>3776431
ok, thanks.

>>3776244
no

>>3776449
I think the banner is crowding the background. Try placing it much further away, maybe somewhere on that tall building.

/beg/ here can someone draw over the planes of the face on these girls please so I can study them thank you

>>3776556
If you need someone to draw the planes of the face for you, you should probably study the face some more and understand it yourself.

>>3776560
it'd be easier if I had planes to refer to so I could understand what I'm seeing

I Drew this

not sure if i should be posting in /beg or here. i havent been doing this for long. what do you think? also why am i finding it harder to draw naked people?

here is another i made maybe two days ago.

Getting there.

Thoughts?

>>3776877
Dude that's pretty dank.
>>3777183
Dude, that's REALLY dank.
>>3777240
Dude, that's a hot topic, but otherwise nice artstyle. The vein kinda fucks it up, though. I would recommend not having that.
>>3776720
I like it. Naked people are also kinda hard since the clothing can't mask the grotesque mutant figure if you're bad at anatomy.
I suspect you also drew the other drawings nearby. I suggest you try rubbing in the scritching to help with shading. There's something about rubbing in the grit that makes the image feel less... 2D, I suppose. That, and more shading work to help it pop.
>>3776523
That's pretty dang cute, though the legs are kinda kushing me out. Something about her underarm seems a little unusual as well. I think that line in the shadow that's going under the bra is making the breast look a little... square? Blocky, at least. Speaking of which,
>>3776064
>underarm kink
I know the agony of bearing this curse.

>>3776877
the drawings arent bad but he looks like a downie, the one in color especially.

>>3774370
>There a nice people in this world
I know right :)

>>3774423
>a little more saturation in the darker parts of the cheek
the guy or the girl?
> Jammer dat je al een vriendin hebt.
Is nu jammer genoeg mijn ex-vriending ;I

>>3777240
You disgust me on every level

>>3777240
I think that you are a shallow degenerate that wants to generate (you) points. Do whatever retarded shit you want, I guess.

>>3776449
stop hiding your legs
The bear is cool

I drew a face as a throwaway doodle on printer paper, then I just sorta kept on adding to it for a couple hours and ended up with this. Got any thoughts on it?

Alright, I'm tired of working on this.

>>3774357
Crazy
>>3774382
Noisy
>>3775650
Bizarre
>>3776416
Town

>>3777689
Love it. Got more?

>>3777540
Dutch is a shitty language, it sounds like downs German+English to a point that if you know German and English you understand what Dutch fags are saying.

>>3777240
Judging by the perspective at least one of the feet of the male should be visible, also while not an expert, while I tink the perspective is not terrible, it makes no sense to me, you are supposed to be seeing her from down below.

>>3777712
By virtue of being a germanic language it's shitty. Toch hou ik wel een beetje van dit landje.

I'm trying to make it like a card illustration, high density character piece if that makes sense.
Thumbnail so far, any suggestions to make the composition less whack and make the character herself pop a bit more? I try to make her more saturated compared to bg

>>3776611
Can you post more? I think his eyes are a bit wonky, but it is a good impression of a character.

>>3777813
some really bright white clouds behind the head might contrast neatly with the dark hair

Did a warmup sketch of Vinny Vinesauce during his Mario 64 stream. I liked how it came out but I feel like I could've added more form (I guess?) to Vinny's head and arms somehow.

>>3774545
what brushes?

>>3778062
i like this

>>3778062
i tried a quick pass on this, not sure if its even better
this is my first time doing something like this
its a good piece i just think you should add more contrast and some textural information there

should I frame muh next meme like this?

>>3778198
pic related

>>3778199
>>3778198
or like this?

Thinking more like this.

>>3778201
like that makes it another squeakquel in teh anxiety face rainbow.

>>3778199
if I did it like that it'd be another CU mania face squeakquel

>>3774368
Are you painting from memory or a photo?

>>3774620
a beg rates

>>3777881
Just a square textured brush for the sketching. And a inking brush in photoshop for the lines

>>3774478
I see you have the same problem as me, afraid of going dark. Try it out man

>>3778262
Going dark?

Background sketch for my animation

I sort of like it as is, but i'm really not sure how to go about shading it

>>3778484
Forgot to color the hands

Drew my shoes

Random inspired by classical vibes.

>>3778489
not sure who she is but i like it
>>3777813
I'm looking forward to seeing the final result, looking good thus far.

>>3778489
Hands are fat and she is missing her pelvis and ass.

>>3778207
photo

female atlas, take #2. Like this one a lot better than the previous one, her left arm is too skinny and I didnt bother with the right one but I think it will look good. Faces and shadows are still my weak points

>>3778279
if you do not incorporate dark values in your work, it will come across as something airy, something that does not have a good sense of 3d but somehow floats on the paper because it isn't well defined. It is the difference between image number 2 and image number 3 in this picture I'm posting right now

Bit stuck with this one

>>3779339
You don't know anatomy and it shows

Still not happy with what I did with >>3776449
What I had in my is much closer to the new one.

The design was winged during the draft so I might change everything.
Any comment about anatomy or design appreciated.

>>3777700
This is really great, except for the blue ear? why?
You did great with the brush economy and subtle rendering of face forms. Hue variations are just enough. Love it.

>>3779284
Colors are beautiful, even with the sloppy brushwork.
What seems to be lacking is a proper drawing foundation on which you could base yourself to show form with your rendering.

>>3779343
so redline it

>>3779370
Okay but fuck your file size.

I think I'll do one more clean-up sketch before moving on to lineart, so I thought now would be a good time to get some crit or even redlines if possible

>>3779357
The characters and the background are in two different perspectives?

I’m trying to get better at my values and lighting overall. I’m going to try to ask you guys for critique. I would appreciate the help

>>3779413
Where does the rim light come from?

>>3779404
Here's a self redline tentative and a quick color scheme.

meh

More practicing

Any suggestions on how to increase the sense of scale/atmosphere before I go into detalization?
Maybe just an overlay of color for the mount and dunes in bg or desaturation a bit?
I want to go from thumb to actually detailing but bg is still bothering me.

>>3779657
Definitely push the atmospheric contrast on the BG more, maybe saturate the foreground a bit more to compensate.

am I a prevert and a cheat?

>>3779680
all those references just to get to this

>>3777240
If I was as bad as you, I would gave up drawing.

>>3779422
I guess it’s more of a light in front of the character and the viewer is seeing their back

>>3779659
I think I need to connect foreground to bg because now it looks like they are on a hill or something.
I'll draw a path or something between her legs to force the feeling of distance.
Anything else the instantly hits the eye on this stage?

Which one do you like?

Which one do you like /ic/?

I wanna start doing custom Tracer skins in various styles, this one is super cartoony but it was just a proof of concept.

>>3779705
right obv

>>3779657
The left boob overlapping the arm isn't right. To get it into anything resembling that position would be extremely painful. The values for the background are also too strong and it's distracting from the lady. Same with the values for the mountains - they're basically exactly the same as the hill in the foreground.

>>3779763
Have to disagree, I referenced it from my gf live and it was accurate, at least before I put on the cloth bra thing and coloured it. I'm going to sleep but I'll check it tomorrow again.
As for the BG values, yeah they are too strong but desserts also behave weird and I'm confused by them. When I look at any dune references they seem to have extremely similar values to the point where it looks almost 2d irl but with very subtle shift. I can't get that right so it looks just flat. Do you think that maybe I just need to connect foreground to bg with some sort of a path leading back? Obviously I need to add atmospheric effects and decrease values in bg, but I think it also might be the visual disconnect.

Here's a warmup that eventually became more thorough drawing of an OC of mine. Might go back to it at a later time to add in details for her hair and such. Drawing in Flash is pretty fun desu

>>3779794
Can't tell if you are shit or if this is some weird art style

>>3779798
I was mainly experimenting with a different kind of shading if that's what you're referring to. Otherwise, and I REALLY don't wanna sound like that guy, but it's my style, not just me being shit. That being said, what makes you think it's bad? Genuinely wanna hear what you think.

Admittedly I think the sideburn on the left seems a bit off, but feel free to tell me if I'm missing anything else.

I was mainly experimenting with a different kind of shading if that's what you're referring to. Otherwise, and I REALLY don't wanna sound like that guy, but it's my style, not just me being shit. That being said, what makes you think it's bad? Genuinely wanna hear what you think.

Admittedly I do think the sideburn on the left seems a bit off, but feel free to tell me if I'm missing anything else.

A sketchy sketch. Looks a bit sketchy if you know what I mean. Thought I'd post it anyways.

>>3779798
I was mainly experimenting with a different kind of shading if that's what you're referring to. Otherwise, and I REALLY don't wanna sound like that guy, but it's my style, not just me being shit. That being said, what makes you think it's bad? Genuinely wanna hear what you think.

Admittedly I do think the sideburn on the left seems a bit off, but feel free to tell me if I'm missing anything else.

>>3779647

Whoahh! Love your composition. Painting this is going to take a hell of a lot of work! I think the girl on the left is absolutely adorable apart from her giant boobs but I think the other two are unnecessarily large and their giant fucking boobs just kind of cheapen the whole image for me. Maybe this is supposed to be some kind of erotica or something but it's not doing it for me honestly. Also that's some amazing work on the construction of those feet. Would be great to see your progress on this!

>>3779705
Def left.

WIP. don't know how to hair. All Crit appreciated.

A fucked up bird

>>3780217

cant export this pic for some reason so had to screenshot it ;I

which of the boob placements is correct? I'm pretty sure the left is wrong but then why does it feel nicer than the right?

>>3780303
this is a question you can figure out on your own
just crack open your anatomy books and look up how breasts work

>>3779392
It was fine before the redline. You did literally nothing except make the legs beefier, which doesn't fit the art style.

I'm not the anon who painted that but you're being pedantic as fuck.

>>3780306
but lazy..

Please anon, you're my only hope.

>>3780303
I think the one on the right looks nice simply because of the twist in the upper body, while the one on the left is more stiff and boring, but generally as far breasts go both look fairly correct.

>>3779657
how can you render this good but have poses that stiff?

Fuck man, sketch anatomy until your poses flow because it's seriously holding you back. I mean that in the nicest way possible. She looks very stiff and unnatural.

>>3780317
tyty. Right one it is then.

>>3780322
It's a very weird combo.
I actually grew up near an atelier as a kid, they drew still lifes with water color all day. There was also this guy that drew all day but I was a faggot and was like
>Naah, construction is boring
Obv I would slap my 13 self, then I quit art till three years ago but it has been only two years since I started not being a fucking ngmi loser that is too scared to do stuff out of his comfort zone.
I guess I'm also complacent because I already make enough money to be well off in my poor country, and now this sounds like a psychoanalysis.
There is no excuse really, I should do more gestures.

>>3780337
i reccomend trying to do some of people in the real world, dont event really need to go to life drawing sessions, can just do them in the bus or in school, ect. this helped me i guess.

>>3780349
any suggestions on how to fix her pose? maybe I should give her more oomph to the left of the painting, like stretch the whole body more.

>>3780355
im not the best in gestures, as u can see by some of the ones i posted but honestly the pose looks like a doll in a store, like the limps are going out evenly in every direction. Maybe google some strechting pose like the on in ur drawing and watch for stuff like weight distribution.

but thats just my 2c

Finished this, sketch is further above in the first posts. Rip me a new one or not, IDGAF anymore.
It's paid and done

>>3780420
honestly this is pretty good. are you a pro?
i bet you could get some concepting jobs with more work like this if you don't work already.

>>3780420
>>3780423
>It's paid and done

ooof i didn't notice this.

>>3780442
Thanks anon! Yeah I live off of my art but pro is yet another level I think. Still occasionally have some "barely get by"-phases but I hope to get rid of that soon.

is this composition too complicated for the sake of readability? i think it's rather confusing but i'm not sure. if it is, what can i do for this problem?

>>3780581
>too complicated for the sake of readability
i mean 'too complicated to read'. damn English is hard.

>>3780581
I the composition is working really nice but that typeface is killing me

I completely fucked up the right lower leg, I'm ashamed to post this but w/e

>>3779803
Doggodile? Crocodog?

>>3780604
agree. the effects applied really get you out of it

>>3780604
are you referring to those 'tap' sounds? or... dialog? i'd agree on 'tap' but i've never thought dialog's typeface is bad. if you have any recommendations or examples that would be wonderful, anon.

>>3780612
i'm having a hard time understanding your meaning... are you saying the outline and drop shadow is bad? i'm not disputing your opinion i'm just want to know more.

>>3779705
Middle of course

>>3780673
I'm talking about the words, both the 'tap' and the 'fuck'. The typeface doesn't agree with the imagery and atmosphere you're going for, its too bouncy and whimsical. You need something with more of a kick.

Hope that makes sense, if you're still confused about typefaces I'm sure /gd/ could help.

Opinions on this kind of thing?

>>3780791
Lazy normie trite. IT company illustration style.

Thoughts? When I sign out of my shift, I'll make some corrections, then resume the linework. I'd appreciate a fresh pair of eyes to offer their impressions on the characters (my OC to the right done for free, the commissioner's on the left), as well as the piece in general. Namely, what you'd do to improve it.

>>3780796
No offense but your characters always seem so soulless, like empty dolls or something. Maybe because they look really generic, I'm not sure.

>>3780796
Really like how you keep the viewer invested in the image through how you posed the girls. But I think the top-left is a bit too heavy/out of frame

Just a sketchy WIP right now but I am drawing a blank for a dynamic scenery behind him. I was going to go with a motion blurred scene but that feels lazy

>>3780860
Dusty reddish brown canyon? The contrast might be nice and you can be a little bit loose and lazy with it.

>>3779657
I remember you from previous threads, this pic improved a lot since I last saw it, but her left foot is still a struggle I guess. I think it would be better to try and do it, than hiding it behind that helmet, rendering is nice, and someone already mentioned how to improve the values, I'm really curious how you finish this !

>>3779462
No time to draw but some experiment.
Maybe I'll integrate some of this in the previous colour scheme which seems more solid?

Did some stuff on Scott Eaton's site

Now trying not to rush my drawings

>>3777240
shadows are all over the place, I have no idea where the light is coming from.

Going to be an oil, thoughts before I go ahead?

>>3775660
>>3775687
>>3775698
are these like all the same person. y do ppl do this . ??

About to finish this piece off after a hiatus from it. Critiques?

Drew ma girl in the snow!!

>>3781185
hmm, I would say that the shadows on her body could do with being a little stronger because her wings have far stronger shadows than the rest of her :] some ambient shadow where things meet/overlap would work really well too.

>>3781154
Why do you type like a faggot?
The world may never know.

>>3781011
Oof that sounds like a good idea actually, maybe some kinda walls of demonic flesh? like we saw in the reveal trailers.

>>3780611
There's a bit of bird too.

>>3779547
Interesting style

Finished this up, didn't hyper polish or anything, was fun pushing intense light

>>3781319
That looks so cool !

>>3781325
Many thanks man

doodle

>>3780761
i gotta disagree with the 'fuck' font; because tons of anime girls are in my comics and so it kinda needs to have that bouncy feelings. but maybe i could use multiple fonts...
I agree i have to change those 'tap's tho. it really does not matches with the atmosphere. thank you for your input.

>>3780799
This DESU. I think it's the generic pretty faces and placid expressions.

Trying to start using shapes instead of lines only. Does that make sense? It's pretty fun either way.

Does anything in particular look really wonky?

It's still a sketch, but I'm just looking for anything that really jumps out as being 'off' before I go into line work. The intent is to have a this skewed / warped perspective leading back, with a simple, flat value scheme. I've checked it by flipping the canvas and nothing really stood out, but I just thought I'd double check

Thanks in advance!.

>>3779392
Agreeing with >>3780309
All I see is a stylistic difference. Only nitpick I can think of on the original drawing is maybe her left knee should be thinner and pointier like her right or vice versa.

>>3781605
Wow. How do you manage to have lines so clean?

I want my characters to have more depth and volume but I don’t want to add too many realistic elements that contrast with the cartoony style

>>3781601
This is great.
Nothing looks too wonky, on the contrary compared to something like kjg your stuff is a bit stiff.
Foot forms/ankles could be a bit better.

>>3780309
>>3781606
You are blind retarded crabs.
If you don't see the difference between legs that are in volume and one that are symbol drawn, gtfo back to /beg.

I tried /beg/ but anyone have some tips to simplify my portrait sketches?

I want to be able to do quick sketches a bit looser etc. (I know there are other issues in the drawings, but yeah)

>>3781659
be fast , this takes line confidence though. use lighter lines as well. keep your shadow areas lightly marked . i will try to think of more things but i sketch like what you are trying to do, its what im trying to do as well.

I have this issue lately where I draw a character in a pose, and the pose looks great, but I can't come up with a reason for the character to be in the pose, so I never finish the drawing.

This one for example. No idea where to go with it.

>>3781664
Thanks anon! I am going to try another one and see if I can do those things!

>>3781667
post it up after. remember as well to actually be loose . dont press to hard.

>>3781666
666 get

Another example of the same issue. How the fuck do people come up with interesting things for characters to be doing? It's very frustrating. If I try to plan a character doing something, the drawing ends up coming out like garbage. If I just draw without thinking I get an alright pose but can't think of how to apply it to a scenario.

>>3781666
>>3781673
I literally never finish pictures because of this shit. I see beginner artists have better ideas in this regard than me, all the time.

>>3781673
you oughta plan it brother, no way around it.

it is harder because interactions with set objects limit what you can do and force you to be more precise, but it's a necessary skill.

>>3781673
>How the fuck do people come up with interesting things for characters to be doing? It's very frustrating. If I try to plan a character doing something, the drawing ends up coming out like garbage.
I think it's because people decide what pose they want and make it using 3d models. I have no other explanation how some people manage to get people in crazy poses with crazy lighting, with the the shading and the fabric being flawelessly rendered as well as the environment being lit perfectly and all this while being realistic.

>>3781694
it's this crazy thing they invented a couple of years ago called "practice"

>>3781676
>>3781694
>what are thumbnails

>>3781699
>>3781703
The number of 3d models with photos pasted over them and the number of tutorials I pirated which have people photobashing in my folder say otherwise. I went to an art exhibition for an artist who painted stuff in the 1500s and apparently he modelled little people and hung them from the ceiling and shone lights on them to get his references.

>>3781705
yeah its called using a mannequin if you had read loomis you would know this is a thing.
no rules just tools my dude.

>>3781673
what do the characters do for a living . what do they do in their free time. think about these kinds of things. that should help you out.

>>3781705
>i saw some people who did that

not really hard evidence there guy
have you watched kim jung gi draw? It's basically just that with a few days of rendering slapped on. references never hurt anyone though.

>>3781720
I wonder if he's one of the reasons why asian parents seem to hate art so much (as in the kids get schooled from like two years old and then grind their asses off) or if he worked merely quite a lot.

>>3781721
i dont understand what youre saying here

>>3781669
Yeah, so it made things a lot worse.... and wasn't even much faster. idk. I want to keep trying things but also I am tired and need to get ready for tomorrow. I'll figure it out somehow though.

>>3781777
try to make sure your proportions are right before you start doing shadows and such. your face and stuff is all too wide. this is probably a big problem as to why it doesn't look better. but keep at it though you will get it.
try and go with the flow of the forms as well with the hatching.

>>3781601
feels like a Gi drawing ;3

>>3780540
>>3780420
Where can we see more?

Can you tell more about your path, how did you study, from which books etc?

>>3780420
This looks wonderful!
I second >>3781920

>>3781920
>>3781946

Thanks mates! I'm ExitMothership on most of my soocial media. Mostly on dA or insta.
Honestly I learned a lot on /ic/, and Scott Robertsons books especially. Worked a bit through How To Draw and How to Render and also did environment studies. Can be fun if you take two environments references and try to combine their traits in one image. I'm also a sucker for backgrounds in animation movies because they have a lot of valuable information. I think when watching Ghibli or Studio4°C movies I always miss half of the plot because I focus on everything else but the characters. I think you just gotta love scenery. Still, I should brush up on perspective, composition etc again and do more studies but I'm also on a personal project that takes all the energy leftover from freelancing.

>>3781978
I just looked through your gallery and I definitely remember seeing your draws and paintings around before especially the bird one. One question, I was wondering if used 3d in your drawings and if so what program/renderer did you use (and did you find it easy to pick up?)

>>3781998
I've used 3D a lot more before but I really try to get everything down by hand now with simply sketching. It can help though und you shouldn't be afraid to use it. I mainly use SketchUp which I found super-easy to get into. Sometimes I also render basic scenes for light reference which is mostly through DAZ Studio, and I use Blender to convert DAE files from SketchUp to OBJ for usage in DAZ Studio. The latter was a bit harder to get into but it has some tutorials in the program that you can follow which gives you a better idea.

>>3779392
this actually looks way better

finished this today

>>3782061
Right eye looks off, not bad otherwise

how do i make this shit better

i just wanted to draw a girl standing there since i've done a few other poses in the past and just wanted something simple, and I see artists do it all the time that are good but when I do it it just looks boring as fuck.

anatomy critique would help as well. just looks terrible and idk what to do like I hit a plateau.

>>3781859
>>3781633
Thanks for the comment!

Looking at it today - all sorts of stuff jumps out. Mainly the way the people are holding the barrels - it looked super odd. Turns out it's much more natural to have them holding a grip underneath the front part of the gun. Some reference photos showed a grip like that, so I figured that's what they should be holding onto.

>>3782303
Have a story or reason she's standing there, even if it's off screen. And exaggerate the pose to suit the narrative.

I’m having trouble rendering clothes. Any tips?

What's up bois, any tips for this one? I feel like it's missing something, aside from some edge polishing.. it just doesn't feel right.

>>3781673
Think about what they do throughout their day. Stretch in the morning, pick something up, look over their shoulder to see something, reach to a shelf for smth etc. Once you settle for a basic idea, more ideas will sparkle - what are they looking at, what are they picking up, how are they feeling about it...

And watch out for the feet, it always sucks balls when the character isn't planted on the ground.

>>3781777
You’re trying to render before you finish drawing. Your whole focus is on rendering but what you need to do is practice on actually drawing well

>>3782303
It's a good drawing but yeah it's boring. You can make it more exciting with more spontaneous linework, your inks are a bit dead.

>>3782324
Lovely! I have a thing for oversized mecha body parts. Needs some work on the face tho.

>>3781673
Feet aren't my strength, but it always helps to imagine the character standing on the corners of a floor tile, makes it easier to plant them firmly

>>3782303
There's not much weight in her hips. The weight bearing leg always puts a lot of force against the pelvis, which squishes soft flesh and creates horizontal wrinkles.
And yea I know, thigh gaps are sexy and everything but mid weight girls they're only visible in certain positions.

Hella nice linework by the way

>>3782357
thanks that helps a lot

No, Chungus. There are more than 10 people posting on this site.

>>3782357
Great redline!

>>3781152
Inspired by Neuschwanstein, huh? It's a pretty big task you have set for yourself, but go for it! I don't want to ruin your fun though, so if you just want to go in and start painting, stop reading here.

First thing that jumps to my eye are perspective and scale. I did the perspective lines in pink, and you can see that your horizon line should either be much higher up, or that you should tweak the foreground. Scale is also a big issue. The thing i did in green is called "transferring scale in single point perspective" if you want to look it up. As you can see, if the lady in front were to walk over to the castle, she would almost be as tall as one of the smaller halls. This applies to the huts on the right too, i just din't put in in. Maybe do some smaller drawings to see how perspective and the position of the horizon line changes size relationships.

Composition is looking pretty good, but think about which details you want to put in and leave out. If everything is detailed evenly, the eye gets confused.

>>3781605
McFlintlock is that you?

>>3782061
Posting an update because apparently a lot of people thought the original had a weird face. Were they right? is this one better?

>>3782503
fix face
looks incredibly unappealing

>>3782503
lol is this bait?
The face shape wasn't the big issue, it was the mouth, nose, and eyes.

>>3782503
ik its stylized but google how a skull looks 2 find out whats wrong. but desu i would start something new. maybe post in beg also

>>3782578
>>3782581
>>3782583
fugg i'm scrapping this

>>3782503
/beg/

>>3782027
I really appreciate man

>>3779825
different anon but i'll bite. if it is your style then it also looks very typical of what someone who doesn't know what they are doing would paint. eyes on the forehead scratchy lines without thought to form etc.

>>3774352
Can I get source on OP image?

gestures from imagination

>>3782338
yeah i was the one criting this guy yesterday i agree with this. they need to make sure everything is right before adding the hatching and stuff.

>>3781500
looks neat.

>>3781336
interesting

>>3781208
nice and cozy. needs more clarity in the areas that you're trying to highlight (the face would be nice).

>>3780502
neat, keep it up. The center lady's head needs to be rounder, there should be a bit more volume in the top back of her head imo. Maybe you see it too now. Very pleasant colors.

>>3779706
Filling it out more, how do I into blood splatters? cc? Should I fix her proportions to 7-8 heads, or does the 6 heads work for this style? WIP obv

>>3782061
>>3782503
>>3782775
My 2 cents if it helps...
Don't scrap it anon, I like the style and character, but I'd suggest you either do complete side-view, or make her look at the camera, and emote something. And yeah, the face is the worst part, try and decide on a face angle, and then google the closest one to it, and use it as a reference.

>>3781500
Never tried to draw with the opacity jitter on. Even in trad I'm always using ink. Pretty fun too, feels nice and loose.

>>3782775
Thanks, anon.

>>3782353
>>3782357
Ooh. Nice advice and redlines, noted.

Playing with the background. Will probably even it all out as I think it is distracting.

>>3782724
Looks good man. I especially like the middle left one.

Who gonna make a new one? ;o

>>3783120
Any time you are asking this on 4chan you should make them yourself unless you are on a busy board where it you only make a new thread one the bump limit has been hit and page 10 has been hit.

>>3783174
in school atm so cant add the words draw thread on an image, idk if this matters but someone who can mighaswell

Drawing from zoomed out thumb and then slowly zooming in and detailing more
What I feel like is that some stuff is slowly floating off and away if you know what I mean, like construction is floaty but I am pulling the structure out of paint anyway?
Working from thumbnail is weird but it sort of works.
I have a question though, is it a good idea to do a line sketch on top to fix anatomy and stuff at this point? Or do I jut need to slowly keep going and fixing as I go?

>>3783366
Obv I need to desaturate guys in the back a bit

>>3781214
because i am one u ijiot.