/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>3752361
Are you lonely

>>3752372
idk if I really get "lonely." Interacting with belligerent weirdos on the intranettes is often enough sustainance 4 me.

Are you lonely?

>>3752361
>draw shit
>looks kinda good
>pick it up again a week later
>fucking horrible
>every time
Its like there is one wanker whose job it is to break into my house and replace my art with slightly shittier versions every time i draw something. Perception while drawing gets fucked so easily over time.

>>3752412
Same. I just need some (You)s once in a while

WHY DO I LIKE DRAWING SO MUCH BUT I MANAGE TO PROCRASTINATE 80% OF THE FREE TIME I HAVE AND START DRAWING LAST MINUTE

I WANT TO GET GUD AND I REALLY LOVE DRAWING WHY IS THIS HAPPENING EVERY FUCKING DAY AAAAAAAAAAAAAH

Even though it seems like every drawing I do lately is the best drawing I've ever done, meaning progress is happening, I feel like it's too late and the artistic movement I was supposed to be a part of is passing me by.

I hate perspective. I HATE IT AND I JUST CAN'T UNDERSTAND IT
I'll just eyeball it for the rest of my life.

Trying to not to succumb to imposter syndrome. It's hard when you get a steady interest in your work and then it abruptly dries up. I know not everything you make will be liked/seen as a masterpiece but it's so easy to think in the lull "I was just in the right place at the right time, I don't actually have an appealing style or interesting stories, Ive been skating on people's pity this entire time"

Why must I have to render everything to the last detail for it to look good? I can't do loose impressiony styles well, my brush control/strokes are too bad. I would love to paint nice backgrounds in a looser way.
I like how other artists use textured brushes to communicate more with fewer strokes as well (ex, foliage). That's something I'd like to play with in the future but I need to do a lot of reading on it.

>>3753602
Me too desu
I'll just accept having a messy style. We can probably end up being not too shitty at it by getting a feel for it oberving reality. Or just not using heavy perspective style

FUCK I DON'T WANT TO FUCKING WORK
I HAVE TO WORK I HAVE TO STUDY I KNOW BUT FUCK I JUST WANT TO SIT AT HOME AND DRAW

How come I get no fucking support in my life, no one ever patted me on the head or told me I did a good job all I got was more fucking criticism.
My sister is spending her life drawing, sitting at 300k+ followers, while even after toiling away as hard as I can 6-8 hours a day for years I can't even make anything I'm happy with.
Is every fucking male in my family cursed to be a fucking mentally ill, aggravated failure?

Why am I such a disconnected asshole? Everyone in the world is starting to look like some bag of flesh with a function. When did it all go fucking wrong?
I used to be a nice kid, really empathetic, I remember running 4km just to give some poor guy $20 when these days I can barely give enough of a shit to give directions to a blind man.

I hate being religious, every single moment of it. I hate being a slave to some great being who's idea of justice is either endless hedonistic pleasure or eternity in torture.
I don't want a golden mansion in heaven with a harem of women, I just want to fucking draw nice pictures and comics, so my only incentive is to avoid eating my own flesh in hell.

I want to go back, I want to fix all this shit but I can't because I have no idea why it happened in the first place

>at work
>want to draw
>get home ready to draw
>dread doing my daily practice
I even switch it up and still am kinda lazy towards daily practice. Everytime I say I'm going to start I just look at inspiration for like 30 minutes then finally actually start.

>>3752361
Losers containment board. Good call anon.

I suppose no one is venting

I've been getting a lil frustrated because I haven't been getting any feedback on stuff I've been trying hard on. But I did a shitty ass sketch of an anime girl and it got double the likes and a few replies on here as well. Smh.


>>3753606
Not sure if this is what you mean but, I used to have waves where I would churn out really cool stuff and say "damn these are decent I must be getting good", try to draw again and it looks like shit. I'd give up for a few days or weeks and come back and try again.
Best way to get around this is just grind through it. If your stuff isn't coming out right just draw something ez like fanart or whatever while you get your groove back. It helps a lot.
If that's even what you meant. Lol.

>>3753616
Check out on Podbean or wherever a dude named Paul White along the lines of the religious feels.
Also, draw from life while standing.
Just do it.
Your mindless exercises will become exciting opportunities to figure things out.
It will become a NEED.
Standing up negates all the cons of sitting down to do anything, and it keeps you engaged.
Drawing something from life, not a photo reference, has all the perspective/light/value/form/anatomy study built in already.

Want to draw a box?
O.K. Chief.
Go get a box and put it on a table and look at it and draw it EXACTLY as it is.
I fucking dare you.

Fellas, tomorrow I start a cross country road trip to move to California to study at Watts. I'm shitting myself with fear and all sorts of crab ass never gonna make itisms floating through my head. I've been doing this for just long enough to know self teaching isn't optimal for me, and that I'm a social creature who needs other fleshbags next to me to really get the most out of education. I'm expecting to be poor, and outclassed by everyone at that school. But I want it so badly I'm willing to take the risk. I'll come back to you all gud and having made it I swear. I love you all. Thanks.

>>3754716
do it man fuck yea I believe in you

>start loving whatI'm doing even if it's objectively baby beg shit and absolutely nothing is close to correct

What the fuck is wrong with me

>>3754716
Watch out for kangaroos

>>3755160
>im finally having fun someone please stop me i need to hate myself and everything i do at every turn instead of letting myself fall in love with what i do

you're gmi but calm down and let yourself have fun

>business adviser tells me to draw porn

It has been 5 years since i lost contact with my last real friend, 3 years since I had a girl touch me.
It has been so long since I told what I really feel non anonymously, and when i say it people dismiss it as a joke or ironic sayings
I'm tired of pretending to be ok but if i don't then I won't even have the little human contact i have and my sanity can't take it

I feel a certain masochistic pleasure in this despair and I'm improving my art even tho I could be way more productive
I feel like i'm the king of this personal mental hell i created


I'm disgusted at how edgy it reads and I sure would never post it if it wasn't anonymous

>>3755204
i feel for you anon, this reads like poetry

>>3755182
Must remember fun
Depression bad
Thanks

>>3755204
pyw desu

I don't know why I'm drawing anymore. I've been at this pretty seriously for 2 years. I haven't finished anything ever, nothing I work on is worth finishing it's all really boring and soulless. I'm 24 and I've been working really hard, 4-5 hours daily, sometimes up to 10 hours, but kind of aimlessly. It sucks when your parents want to know what you've been up to but you have nothing to show for it, just a bunch of crappy half assed sketches. I wish I cared about something, had a true passion, art kind of seems like something I just do to pass the time, I mean I got into because I wanted a real hobby other than video games not because I liked art or drawing.

I ran out of sleeping pills and I spent all night tossing and turning in the bed failing to sleep. At 6am I gave up. Now I'll feel like shit the whole day and eventually collapse and wake up at like 7pm
I want to take the medicines again but they make me feel drowsy all day, I have to deal with the rebound insomnia.
I really want to draw but I'm so fucking tired

I'm completely hopeless. I want to get good so, so bad but I almost never study. My lack of drive, problem-solving skills, and work ethic has stunted my growth.
I've drawn for almost as long as I've lived and I am completely sub-par because of my lack of understanding of proper study. I almost never know what I'm doing and usually mindlessly doodle or browse the internet instead of grinding and practicing.
I'm getting legitimately extremely upset over it these days, I'm thinking I should just quit drawing for fun for a couple of years and just practice instead; or kill myself first, whatever happens first.

>>3754666
Not sure if the bottom part was for me but I'm not christian, although the religion is close.
I'm from a much stricter religion, you can probably guess it.

I remember when I was a kid I used to cry in fear of how harsh the judgement was, I was pretty shocked at the time how anyone could lead a normal life believing it, but I quickly realized that these people are simply going through the motions, not a single one of them stopped to think about the prayers, or the books, or what they said.
My issue was that I understood the religion/language more than I should've at a young age and I suppose might have fucked me up to an extent

>>3753616
I'd come to the realization that other people will never have any bearing to my happiness ages ago, the shit where someone lends a helping hand just doesn't happen to people like me.

Everything I want I'm just going to have to take it myself which is easier for me, but when I see others working together I just can't help be jealous of them since it seems so much easier.

I feel like I'm going to be living an isolated life like this unless I find out what's wrong and fix it, even then I doubt I'd be happy

>>3752361
I fucking hate drawing, because I can't draw anything good. Everything looks like shit.

>>3756372
why does it look like shit? Not because it's yours. It's because it has flaws. Perspective, composition, posing, whatever. Problem solve that shit. Pick them and fix them all. It's not magic. If you're lost look up to artists you like and analyze why you like their art.

>>3752361
I am tired that EVERY fucking drawing I do turns out wrong, and the worst is that I dont know what is wrong, much less how to fix it.

>>3752435
that's becaus ethere is always that ONE thing you fail to do right one or two things, you think it looks ok, but then you see some pic by a Jap that loosk difernet, you go back to correct it, then you see another pic done diferently and you go to "correct it" again!

>>3756544
I hate everyone elses art, because I can’t make that. Makes me break all my pens just browsing the draw threads here.

>>3752412
you won't know until you really get a real companion, then all this avatarfagging on a dying board on 4chan will seem like a nightmare.

>>3757264
Maybe those people drew for 10 years and started as kids and maybe you have 2 years under your belt and started at 20.

>>3757288
I had a 9 year relationship. Lived with her for 7 years. Basically already been married. Still think I kind of don't get lonely.

>>3759208
a 9yr relationship at your age? thats not normal

>>3759208
Did you kill her like you killed your dog, you murderer?

>I can do decent stuff like this but if asked to do a human doing something basic like walking or tying their shoelaces it looks like something made by a 3 y/o with down syndrome

>>3759540
met in college
>>3759549
yep ded af

>draw lewds
>close it cause girlfriends home
>"what were you drawing?"
>"Lewds. I don't mind showing you. Not hiding anything"

3 hours silent treatment. Fuck this.

>>3760220
I'd just continue drawing them at this point. She isn't about to be reasoned with tonight.

>>3760242
Probably should have. Thanks for responding.

>>3760220
Why the fuck is she mad? Is she a virgin?

My sister has done nothing but cause problems over the years, mindless arguing and fighting, screaming and crying, not caring about how it makes everyone else feel. A year ago my fears were that she'd have a child at 20 with a guy that lives in a trailer, they'd get a divorce and she wouldn't be able to look after the kid so my parents would have to take care of her and her child. A year later all that happened, after she was intoxicated and took her child to the hospital and lost custody. It's like I know what's going to happen, but I have no control over it. Someone else's problems are becoming mine, I have no control, its like being held hostage.

Imagine having your own issues, you're trying to make it in life, and somebody is there screaming and crying the whole time. I am stressed out and depressed every day and you're making it worse.

>>3753593
Use the pomodoro technique. It increased my productivity by a ton

>>3753616
>endless hedonistic pleasure
That sounds like Islamic Jannah, not Christian Heaven. Are you Muslim anon?

I hate how tired I am after work that I can only manage a safe zone drawing when I get home instead of a good thorough study like I wanted.

>>3760220
>2019
>being in a relationship
Honest question, are you a cuck?

i wish i was learning faster but self teaching and not knowing what to force myself to learn makes it super slow, im annoyed i cant be popular after 3 years of effort

>>3760385
dude same. I’m worried we’re getting close to the point where my sister wind up in jail and our mom will have to raise her son.

>>3752361
I took my fortnightly shower and I still smell piss

>>3760386
>pomodoro technique
Thanks, I've alway avoided such techniques since I'm a proud motherfucker (IF I DONT DO IT ALL BY MYSELF I SUCK AAAAH), but these waste of time can no longer happen. I'll try that and maybe add something like Cold Turkey app on top.

>>3752361
>attend drawing 111 intro class as an elective
>cool polish guy sits next to me
>chat on the first day of class, says he's an art major, I tell him I'm not
>ask if he does commissions like I do
>"no"
>feel bad because first conversation felt like I was making him feel bad for not drawing while making money on the side
>he draws like absolute dogshit, while I surpass everyone in class
>he refuses to use erasers because he saw me not use an eraser on that one still life project and it just made his life miserable
>progressively starts getting angry and grunting heavily when drawing
>class moves on to perspective, he fails every single project
>professor notices his behavior and very often tells the class out loud "IF THE PERSON NEXT TO YOU IS DOING BETTER THAN YOU DON'T FEEL BAD OR FEEL ANGRY AND INSTEAD LOOK AT THEIR WORK AS INSPIRATION"
>he withdraws from the class halfway through the semester
>glares at me every time we pass by each other on campus

Kinda made me sad, even though I know deep down he was being a little bitch. There was also this cute jewish chick in class who loved my work as well and must've had a crush on me. I planned to give her my sketchbook at the last day of class because I wouldn't be needing it anymore, but she didn't show up. Guess I'll never be able to make friends irl.

>>3752361
I FUCKING HATE YOU LOOMIS

>>3752435
It's called improvement. Gj anon

>>3761754
nice mog

>>3753616
Just accept it and draw for the hell of it.

If you're a wagie and want to "git gud", you'll never achieve your goal. It's only attainable when youre still a kid living at home with no obligations or responsibilities or alternatively, a neet (which is arguably still the same thing).

Wageslaves can will never make it.

actual people irl want me to make a painting of a demon lady for them that they're trying to create an internet presence for as an early marketing campaign for a movie they're getting funding for.

Why is it so much more difficult to get started on something for actual people, versus getting started on memes that strangers told me to make?

>>3762995
now your name is on it, now it's not a throwaway meme, you have to make something worth a damn that everyone will see.

>>3752361
I might have carpal tunnel and it's depressing me enough to slow down my pace of drawing. I still make time to at least do some figure drawing everyday though.

>Want to do collabs
>Make a post about it
>People like the post but no replies

>>3752361

>Spend hours on a piece
>Realize it’s garbage but you’ve invested too much time on it to give up
>Spend several more hours doing minute touch ups that only make it worse
>Finish it
>Look at at it
>Still looks awful
>Just trash it.

I’m not getting those 6 hours back.

>>3761635
wash under your foreskin dumbfuck

Procreate was filling in colors just fine like an hour ago. No idea what happened but now when I drag and drop it just fills in partially. As if it's a jpeg now or something. Kind of pissed off.

>>3765066
finished, not perfect, anon. Even if the result is shitty now, at least you have a subconscious idea of what not to do next time. Every bit of experience is worth it, just some more than others.

I want to draw but I never know where to start. Then again half the time I just procrastinate and never improve or anything, I would love to make it but with this "process" of mine all I'm gonna end up doing is blowing my brains out

im enjoying art college but my class is filled with these fuckin jews

>>3765066
Welcome to the world of art.

I didn't even count failed drawings and paintings when I started. I still fuck up, and I've been doing it longer than most of the people here have been alive.
It's pretty rare that someone would get nothing from attempts. You learned something, you just can't see it. Sometimes the lesson is "don't do that."
Some of my paintings have taken weeks to do, in oil. Slow down. Pay attention to where you fucked up, integrate that into your mental library.
6 hours is NOTHING in terms of learning to be an artist. By all estimates I've made, it took the masters 10 years to go from basics to doing work that hangs in museums - and that's not where they stopped, either.

>tfw getting better but notice you actually don't know what you want to do with art

FUCK

NO ONE EVER FUCKING POSTS THEIR ART HERE.
I'd honestly say only about 14% of /ic/ users actually post their own art.

>"This image is about my level"
like fuck off, post your damn work if you want a real answer.

>>3768511
>I'd honestly say only about 14% of /ic/ users actually post their own art.
idk if it can be stressed how much people in this community are willing to harass and antagonize and argue with people that have the bold audacity to post their art on the art board.

You're basically just inviting weirdos to irrationally hate you and follow you around and attack you personally and make everything about you if you post your art here. The about of buttblasted malignancy is probably overwhelming for most people. Like why would any rational person choose to engage with this community when it's basically just a guarantee that the only people willing to follow you do with bad intent? Like you can post on instagram or facebook or reddit or twitter and the only engagement you're generally going to get are people rewarding and encouraging you with likes and hearts and follows and comments involving emoticons. Why bother with all this cancer?

And the solution is that more people need to just post their dogshit and enjoy the shitshow. There are a handful of autistic turbo-virgins on this board that are willing to spend all of their time whining at people that post work. But the reality is that it's like 3 people. If one person posts work and gets discouraged by the ngmi crabs, the crabs win. But if 3 people post, and then keep posting their shit, the crabs tire out.

https://youtu.be/NuSbELCNloc

I might get in trouble for posting this but,
I'm pretty sick of /ic/ always implying there are no highly skilled female artists and that there aren't any on /ic/.

>>3768522
based

>>3768522
>why would any rational person choose to engage with this communit
proves that you are an absolute schizo nutcase, me thinks.

VOTE on Jimmy's behavior:
https://linkto.run/p/RWMMFEM6

>>3768511
the only "benefit" of posting your art on here is getting negative, harsh criticism. if you really filter out the complete bullshit in that, you are left with one or two helpful sentences, but the rest is quite literally unqualified shit. if you call people out for talking shit and showing their own work, you realize it's mostly school kids who doodle in their calendars and homework at best and have no clue about materials whatsoever.

and if you give honest criticism, you get jumped with buzzwords like cuck, faggot, tradfag, beg-tier, ngmi and whatnot, as if random insults could ever reach anyone on 4chan.

that's why pic related is actually accurate as fuck.

I managed to get a close friend of mine into art a but ago. While even now he's not that good, within 2 years he's advanced as much as I did in the first 5 years of me drawing seriously. And I really dunno how to feel about it.

>>3768653
that's because you are there to show him the way
do not feel threatened but feel proud
his fast improvement is because of your understanding,teaching and skill

unless you're a twat that doesn't help his friends get better at art

the girl i like and quasi dating (idk I might as well be autistic) is such an amazing talented artist and I admire and look up to her in every way, she recently popped off with 20k likes on one of her artworks on Twitter and good Lord she's gonna make it so hard. she recently interned as a production artist in my city's biggest production studio and she has Disney/DreamWorks production artists following her

she herself is one of the cutest most adorable tomboy girls I've ever met (who never texts first and has crap reply game reeee) and she brings my heart peace.

only issue is she's brought me into the light of exactly how big of a gap there is not just technically but in terms of "soul and reason" in my art. not a bad thing I welcome it in every way but damn. it feels good to get that rush of inspiration, motivation and awareness of where you are.

>>3768849
additional complaint FUCK I WISH I WASNT SO SCARED OF PAINTING I JUST WANNA DRAW REEE

>>3768636
75% approval rating GOTTEM

>>3768636
>51%
>went from like 20 votes to 90 in a few minutes!
wow everyone must be voting! It's a real barnburner!

NEW POLL
the memeschlock trashman has voted for himself almost 50 times.

This poll only allows one vote per visitor:

>Do you want Jimmy (memeschlock) to fuck off and stop shitposting outside of his containment thread?
VOTE

https://linkto.run/p/82TZQ8DD

ever since i was cheated on and fell into a depression with my only driving force being an unhealthy obsession with my now ex, i have not been drawing as much lately and that kills me inside worse than the thought of my ex fucking someone else

>>3769017
draw something and post it today

i kinda want to stop doing lewd stuff, i usually draw lolis and i kinda feel guilty/shameful? i never do explicit stuff but i feel paranoid that when i grow as an artist someone would find that stuff or even now and show it to my family/friends
but im also not sure if i should stop because thats my only interest, i enjoy drawing girls and if i stop doing it then what else would i do?

>>3768522
You will only get shit on if you either:
1) Talk like a retard
2) or your work is below /beg/-tier. And I mean WAY below /beg/-tier
My experience is usually pretty decent even though I'm not good

>>3760220
draw a cute girl laughing with you at a lewd drawing you made, add bottom text saying "My Ideal Life", print it 100 times, stick the copies around the whole house, then dump her passive-aggressive ass and start the pursuit of said girl. They exist.

>>3770756
ddo this

>>3760346
>gf
>virgin
i hope not lmao poor nigga blue balled

I feel like I am never going to improve. It feels like I hit a roadblock I cannot surpass no matter what I do. I've been doing practice gesture drawings and studying the work of hampton and I still feel stuck at a low level. It's like I can't really learn anything anymore.

Art is hard man, I picked up a new style that I'm really nonstalgic about but trying to emulate that style without all the flaws in it is really hard, plus I maybe like the only person who misses that kind of art

How do I stop wanting to do art and just appreciate art? Trying to do art that I can never sell is killing me and it seems that I can't draw for myself only, or I would have made it already.

>>3770825
When I hit a block like that I just try something else and come back to it later on (give it a few days or weeks, until my observation ‘resets’)

I feel like the only path to make big moneys is porn but I don't wanna be known as the ''porn guy''
but being the ''guy that draws videogame'' really doesn't help either...

>>3770825
Try to actually finish your work, instead of leaving it as a sketch.
Even if you think the sketch feels like shit, force yourself to do it anyways. It'll probably still not end well, but you'll learn more from it and ironically gain more satisfaction from it.
This may seem to be violating the rule of not polishing turds, but if you ever feel like you're trapped in a unfulfilling rabbit hole of doing unfinished sketches after sketches without feeling any progress, it's a sign that you should probably start forcing yourself to finish at least one shit.

>>3767037
I know this phrase is thrown around a lot, but is it possible for you to post your work or like a throw away sketch or something. I'm genuinely curious about what your stuff looks like boomer senpai. Also you sound like a teacher I know, and it'd be suprising to see them posting here. Though the odds are low.

>>3752361
Do you ever get an idea for a drawing or project, get horny, fap about it, and then not do the drawing?

Why are most of my followers on pixiv a bunch of toddlercons? I mean I can understand lolicon to a point, but whats so sexy about a baby, babys are fucking gross.

>>3752361

Modern art is a disease and it must be weeded out from this world.

>>3771298
Kek

>>3770748
nah you'll get shit on for anything. It's kind of more of a bummer to get NO response than get shit on.

I know I have a good style and I can do pretty good art, but I feel like that's kinda the problem.
Everything I create is good. But it is just good on like a mediocre level so it doesn't really stand out.
It's not so bad that it gets attention bc of the lulz.
But it's also not very unique and special to reach a lot of people.
I just get this feels sometimes, that I'm in fkin limbo and there is no way out.

my life is a fucking lie all i do is dispense porn for strangers who dont give a shit while wagecucking why the fuck do i want to do this forever

>>3771427
but the modern art era ended like 40 years ago. Are you a time traveler?

>>3752361
>Drawfag for a thread
>Usually get 4 or so (you)'s sometimes start a conversation
>Post today
>1 (you)
I feel so lonely.
Honestly, since i'm a hikki, i get no more social interaction other than 4chan.
I'm actually in pain.

>>3773644
Why not go on a Discord? More consistant intereactions depending on the server. And you can maybe make friends in PM.

But desu, it's one thing to get interaction this way. Unless you have a very, very good excuse (do you?) don't fucking avoid it. Actually do the things you're afraid of.

>go to life drawing session
>new model
>10/10 body, which I thought only possible in anime
>it's her first time modeling
>she stands up on the platform and puts her hands on her hips in a good pose
>she's radiating with confidence
>she looks down at me
>smiles and stares me dead in the eye and doesn't break eye contact with be during the pose
>next pose, same eye contact, smiles a bit smug now
>this continues till my dick is diamonds
>get up and leave before anyone notices I have a boner.
I never have erections during life drawing, but damn she was fine as fuck and if I didn't know any better I'd say she was flirting with me.

>>3752361
I wish I didn't have tendonitis. My neck and back and joints and everything are all fucked because god keymashed when he wrote my genes.

I wasn't, like, GOOD at art. Ever. Not even a little, but I think I improved somewhat in the few months I practiced. I don't think I'd ever have gotten to a professional level, nor would I have wanted to. I just enjoyed it a lot, and I kind of have to mourn that hobby and how much joy it gave me.

Also I'm just in pain all the time anyways and that sucks. Every time something hurts I think wow, I'm that percentage of pain worse. My body is falling apart and I'm never going to get better. At some point I'll be in the worst pain of my life, every day because it just gets a little worse. Physical therapy has done nothing for me. I sort of wish I was dead

>>3774006
This is why we can’t have nice things

>>3774006
This is not my new fetish

>>3752435
After a while you sometimes get the opposite experience. I've been drawing for over 20 years now I look back on some older stuff and say, 'Mm, this is better than I thought at the time.'

>>3770971
You could start a trend I kick myself whenever I think of shit I never followed through on that’s now trendy

Just do it

What do I do bros? I don't want to like a girl, but I can't help how I feel. She's one of my first art friends, and we have lots of fun drawing and collaborating together. I see her a lot so I can't avoid her, and don't want to because it's fun to be around her. But I know these feelings are selfish and stem mostly from me being starved of human contact for so long, so my heart jumps at the "possibility" of a relationship. I haven't liked someone since highschool. It's stupid and I don't want it. I just want to stay friends. I like having an art buddy and being able to focus mostly on art.

>>3775519
It's honestly very lucky to find someone you truly like. Go for it, do it for those who can't.

>>3776861
It may seem retarded, but I really want to just focus on art and stay friends. Even if she were to be interested in a relationship, which I doubt because she called me a buddy from the start. I don't think I would be mature enough to just jump into a proper relationship. I know I would just obsess over her and shit, and I'm too selfish to not have art as my main priority. It's really frustrating. I know what I want and what is probably best for me and my friendship with her, but my feelings won't listen. She didn't sign up for this, and neither did I. To act on these feelings would be a very selfish act. Sure we have a lot in common and get along well, but I don't know if I only feel this way because I've spent so much time alone and she was an art girl who was nice to me or it's genuinely because we are compatible. If it's the former, then isn't that really vain? Either way who wants to deal with some loner falling for them? She probably just wanted a friend, not this extra shit. I don't want either. I just want to get rid of these feelings.

>>3776980
If she didn't liked you at all she wouldn't spend time with you.

>Even if she were to be interested in a relationship, which I doubt because she called me a buddy from the start.
Most girls don't tell you (their signs are non-verbal). Men are expected to do the work. Sad but true. So if you like her, just try to get closer and closer and see how it works, and if it doesn't, whatever. Take it in a chill way.

>I know I would just obsess over her and shit, and I'm too selfish to not have art as my main priority.
So what, you'll never date anyone?
You don't have to pick one thing of both and obsess over it, trust me, it did me really bad. You have to learn not to be needy and obsessed. It's hard but try. Cause you can't stay stuck in this mindset forever. Do you think a few hours of seeing someone in a dating mindset will totally cripple your art? If you're gonna make it, you're gonna make it either way, drawing 6 or 9 hours. Just maybe a tiny bit slower.

>I know what I want and what is probably best for me and my friendship with her, but my feelings won't listen.
You have feelings and you can't ignore them. Not healthy. At least try. It doesn't mean marriage comitment. Just try and don't sweat it and don't be like omggg nooo sorry sorry if it doesn't work. Take it with a smile and if it fails just find someone else later.

I may be totally wrong but it's what I'd say about it, your call. But I think if you stya in this state of mind you'll end up being sad in a way. Your feelings are here for a reason so deal with them one way or another. But don't put yourself under too much pressure. Just feel that shit, examine it, and think about you can do.

>>3777086
You're right about a lot of it. I have this weird mentality that I have to go all in on art. That it's all or nothing. It's a struggle for me to even make time for family and friends. I need to work on this. And you're right. I am just trying to run away from my problems by trying to get rid of them. I still don't think she's all that interested in me honestly. So for now I'll just try to stop taking myself so seriously and just relax and see where things lead with her. I won't actively pursue a relationship for now, but if things lead to a chance or my feelings grow deeper I will go for it. Thanks a lot for the very genuine reply and advice. Feel a lot better about the situation.

>getting math degree
>expecting masters program to go well
>expecting much money

>just want to draw, but can't even figure out how to do tablet shit

Current attempt at trying to become digital. It's so hard. Fucking lines. FUCK YOU. FUUUCK I GOTTA COLOR AAAHHH.

>>3777495
You only have a sketch and some lines and you have this much layers? Try to keep it simple man, trust me. 1-2 linework layer has to be enough for one character. Also, practice fundamentals. A lot. You're gonna get used to digital drawing, but it takes a LOT of time.

I'm at a point in my life where I know I'm never going to be a great artist. Everything I do is shallow and rips off other artists because I'm incapable of creating anything authentic, genuine, or original on my own. I've been at this point for a while, and now every time I try to draw something, I'm immediately discouraged and filled with negative thoughts. I've been having these same issues for so long, and I've wasted precious years. I feel like if I could get over this, I'd be able to draw more and maybe have stuff that is somewhat good. I'm convinced now though that my work will never be great.

>finally meet someone else that draws
>they draw anime
Fuck

If I draw nothing but girls people will think I’m a weirdo, but when ever I draw dudes they always turn out way looking like garbage. I could draw NTR stuff I guess because drawing ugly dudes the point but I hate porn, and especially cuck shit.

>>3752361
>start drawing and quit game
>6months in and get good result
>see some RA2 video
>want to play RA2 now

>>3777934
Find the kind of men that you admire and take inspiration

>>3778046
>gave up game and alcohol for 6 months now
>get depressed and want to give up drawing
>get back to games and alcohol
>I don't like it anymore

FUCK

>actually super motivated and working in the past months
>"yay finally I can produce something, I'm going to start the year with posting something everyday on social media"m even if it's shit yaaay motivation"
>end of month comes and Ism still didn't finish one single thing

It's like my brain finds everything it can to stop me and pull me back into depression

>>3779661
yeah seems like you created a big goal that immediately turns it into work with the perception of stakes.

I went through that in January 2017 when I decided I was going to be a meme painter full time for a decade and like hit a wall by lake day 5. What I'm doing meow, now that I have hundreds of shitty paintings, is posting a painting a day on instagram in order for the whole year and charting the growth and everything.

Just gotta keep working. Keep making shit. Make so much shit that you can get a scheduler bot to post old shit for you. And then if you need ego validation you can look at all the likes and follows you're getting just as a result of being an active poster in the instagram algorithm.

>>3752361
I CAN'T DRAW PEOPLE BUT CAN DO EVERYTHING ELSE WITH EASE! AAAAAAAAAAA!

>>3779698
>t. Adolf Hitler

I'm not the least bit interested in the things I wanted to make when I first started drawing and now I have no drive possibly because I never know what to draw.

>>3752361
>Teacher tells you to draw everyday
>You struggle at first
>You are soon drawing everyday and getting better
>Start posting online
>Build a tiny following
>Pass all your classes despite no sleep
>feel good man
>Winter break comes
>Take a tiny break for a while
>Try to get back into drawing
>You start to become an anxious and lazy fuck
>In just two weeks since school ended
Fucking hate this. I don’t if it’s burnout or what. Glad to know I’m coming off it. But yeah never stop drawing

>drawing night before class
>feel the immense need to draw still
>know I’d be able to draw more effectively the next day if I went to bed now
>keep on drawing untill 3 in the morn
>get up and get no work done in class (not art related like)
>get home and unable to draw cause my brains to dead
>nap and cicle repeates itself

The quantity of absolutely awful, off-topic, bottom-of-the-barrel obvious newfag threads we get drives me up the goddamn wall.
"roast my anime XDDDDDD", "im an arteest im gonna make a thread just for my drawings instead of just posting in one of the several threads that exist for that already because im just that spesial", "hey /ic/ draw a tattoo for me", random doodles, "/ic/ how do i get better nevermind the fact my example is obvious below /beg/ shit and i havent even noticed the sticky exists", shit that's technically art-related but has fuck-all to do with the actual purpose of the board (like someone's goddamn Souncloud or something).
Forget the usual board "culture" shitposting, these threads are the real goddamn menace. It never gets any better.
Sometimes I wish we'd get renamed from "Artwork/Critique" to something more cryptic like "crabs in a bucket", see if that discourages people and slows this shit down a bit. It fucking angers me, truly.

>>3761754
curious as to what your works looks like, im probably better than you. that would be funny.