/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>3758454
>I've been working on my universe since I was a retarded 13 year old boy.

>>3758454
Who has said this?

>>3758462
>I- I have the story and everything, it's just in my head right now!

>>3758495
>It's going to be a graphic novel!

>I've been practicing drawing everyday since I could pick up a pencil / for as long as I can remember!

how many of these groundbreaking stories are just LOTR ripoffs

>A-All my teachers say i'm very talented and innovative!

>>3758496
>I'm going to turn it into a comic and a 24 minute short film at the same time, just watch!

>>3758501
This one is about BumChum.

>>3758499
Jokes on you, all my stories are just stories of lesbians that want to kill themselves.

>>3758507
hi tkmiz

>>3758507
you gays are so boring

Relevant https://youtu.be/_PyjfApMhDM?t=786

>>3758513
In my defense I just need an outlet to pour negative emotions into. Stories of people being miserable and heart broken are just my way of doing it.

>>3758454
>I'm smart just lazy
>yeah i did well in highschool math and science class (because I had noone to talk to so I payed attention)

>>3758454
That picture is actually triggering me unironically OP

>>3758454
>he talks about other people anonymously on a image board and thinks hes superior to everyone because he doesn't make his own stories, let a lone have the ability to draw them.

>>3758566
Nah, I've just matured beyond the age of thinking that I'll ever get to work on my overly ambition story spanning numerous books with expansive lore and will ever finish.
Because with how much time you spend building it up in your head, you're going to evolve as an artist over that time and ideas you thought of when you were a teen won't seem as good when you grow up and become wiser.
It's just that everyone has these big epic fantasies in their heads, but ask yourself this:
Have you started it?
Have you thought about when you're going to start it?
Are your artistic skills at the level you want it to be in order to deliver this story?
Can you be sure that it's going to be the cult-hit phenomenon you were hoping for? Or is it just extra special to you and only you because it's your idea, and us humans get more excited over our own idea than anyone else's?
Can you really sustain a living by dedicated your time to making this? If you juggle between working at a job and making an amateur book series then it will take you an eternity to finish and by then you will either get bored or be met with an existential crises at the end when no-one reads it because you didn't spend any time building a public image by working on other smaller projects.
What if you pitch the idea for the series to a publisher? Do you even have any resume or portfolio for them to accept you by?
You gotta think of these things realistically anon, not just go "NAH IT'S GONNA BE GREAT FUCK YOU".
There's nothing wrong with creating big stories but 99% of the people have absolutely no idea what kind of workload they're setting themselves up for.

>>3758454
>Not having at least 15 fully fleshed out fantasy worlds at any given moment

>>3758593
There's some pretty good advice there honestly.

Dunno if you're the OP or not, but desu this would have been better than the meme format from the get-go.

>>3758593
calm down your autism, boy.

>>3758593
Yeah, I agree with you. People like what OP described are doing the art equivalent of turd polishing. You don't spend 15 years on a single epic painting, unless you're some kind of master right? You quickly iterate through tens of rows of thumbnails, you learn to let go of failures and learn from them, you constantly make new pieces while experimenting with new techniques and concepts. So why not apply the same mindset to writing, instead of desperately holding on to the idea you had in highschool as if it's your only son? 1 perfect pot vs. 50 imperfect pots, etc.

>>3758607
It's honestly the least autistic thing I've seen on this board in a while

>>3758513
You hetties are so boring

>>3758609
I agree.
as a person who is recovering from this, my advice is to just do the planning stuff, but also have an outline.
Once you have the plan and the outline you can just shelf the whole project and do smaller work. it's generally good practice to sort projects based on feasibility.
Then when you actually finish something, you can use your newfound skills to build the next difficult one, and the next.

>>3758454
I can sympathise with anyone who ever went through this, which is actually a very large amount of people.
There's nothing more meditative and therapeutic than walking home from high school with earphones in and daydreaming about your little world.
When you spend enough time with it in your head, you become so familiar with it that you begin to hear the sounds and smell the scents of it, it's quite spiritual actually.
But if you're serious about being a creative writer or making any story, then you just have to shelf it because it's more than likely way to big and ambitious to be your first project.
You can come back to it later but you need to learn how to let something go so that you can focus on something new.
That same mind that came up with that imaginary universe will be able to create better things the more you experiment and conjure up new ideas which is a really exciting thought, I don't know why so many people never consider that.
Perhaps people just grow out of the "muh universe" phase at different ages.

I can sympathise with anyone who ever went through this, which is actually a very large amount of people.
There's nothing more meditative and therapeutic than walking home from high school with earphones in and daydreaming about your little world.
When you spend enough time with it in your head, you become so familiar with it that you begin to hear the sounds and smell the scents of it, it's quite spiritual actually.
But if you're serious about being a creative writer or making any story, then you just have to shelf it because it's more than likely way too big and ambitious to be your first project.
You can come back to it later but you need to learn how to let something go so that you can focus on something new.
That same mind that came up with that imaginary universe will be able to create better things the more you experiment and conjure up new ideas which is a really exciting thought, I don't know why so many people never consider that.
Perhaps people just grow out of the "muh one big universe" phase at different ages.

>>3758499
My story started off as a complex intrigue but I ended up accepting the fact I just wanted the main characters to murder people violently and do cool shit with the setting's technology. To this day I just fantasize about scenes without really thinking of a plot

>>3758593
F-Fuck you, my comic is going to be great
Just wait till I get good enough

>>3758723
>To this day I just fantasize about scenes without really thinking of a plot

why are we like this

>>3758819
Humans have imagination

>>3758819
Whatever, it's fun.
>that moment when [guy] did [thing] in [my story] during the climax of [song]
That was the hype moment of [my autistic imaginary story that no-one knows of] tbqh.

Anyone with Maladaptive Daydreaming ITT who have gone beyond occasional daydreams to long, uncontrollable and over the top fantasies?

>>3758454
Has anyone from here ever posted a finished comic? I'd love to read them.

I am gonna make a visual novel about a mtf tranny with magical powers in an all girls high school setting who is the captain of their basketball team.

I have like 14 differant narratives. They each would need to be cleaned up before actual production however

Berserker Part 3
Atlantis
Recurser
Freelancer
Loyalist
Berserker Part 2
Hivemind
Komplex
Xanadu
Berserker Part 1
A Girl And Her Dog

>>3759313
forgot Oblivion
and Entropy

>>3758593
Great advice anon. My big goal is to make comics and trying to live off it, and for the longest time I just kept stories in my head like any other retard... Only when you start actually writing can you realize how big of a workload creating a finished story actually is. You permanently have to backpedal to fix and arrange things, it's often a big mess, and even after days of works can you really realize if what you did is pretty good/interesting or deserving to be scrapped all and started anew.
I really like it personally, but I never expected it to be this hard.
>>3758819
>tfw it started like this but I got tired of the scenes making no sense or not being part of a greater narrative

I have unironically said every cliche you wrote. Funny. Im not a professional artist though. I have an IT job. But I really do think I have a whole universe. I designed the characters and have a million jumbled ideas but no story. I am that guy.

>>3759201
Yes, it got to the point where every night my dreams were a new episode of the story. Was good times.

>>3758619
True

>>3758819
I wrote that comment and it's 100% because I can't draw that shit. I can't draw those powerful emotional moments, I can't draw the cool magitek mechas fueled by vampire blood even though I can visualize them like I have the page in front of me, I can't even draw a good sword swing. If I actually had the ability to draw shit without utterly failing I would just make the comics.

>>3758454
>The story that has entire years of development ends up being just a rip off of the authors favorite videogame/book/anime.

>>3760215
>These seven characters are themed after the seven deadly sins

>>3760237
>write story
>get really into it
>take a step back and think about it for a second
>it actually reads like your average shitty isekai LN
Worst thing about it is that I read a lot more "good" books than LNs or whatever shitty nip garbage. These yellow freaks must have messed up my brain for good.

>>3758819
Coming up with cool scenes is infinitely easier than making them all fit together into a cohesive narrative

>>3760275
Yeah they're like the equivalent of drawing headshots vs. full body

>>3760254
My story is just too fucking dark. My characters are inhuman and I doubt they would sell as protagonists, but I can't write them otherwise. They have dignity, honor and many other qualities when it comes to others of their kind but they're vampires and they treat human beings like food.

I have a scene where the lady vampire protagonist enters a house and butchers the people inside for blood (a man, a woman and their daughter). The vampires don't feed cleanly here. She finds a locked door and inside there is a malformed little girl the family was keeping locked in. There is no dialogue but it should be intelligible that these country people were hiding this other daughter (there's a plate in her room, they were dining without her when they were killed) and she was never let out. The vampire asks her if she wants to die in the dark or under the stars. The girl says she wants to go. There's a creepy scene where she takes her hand and walks her through the blood and corpses in the other room, once she's outside she waits for her to look up then runs her through with a sword.
I chose all the shots so it happens through the POV of the girl, with a pale long fingered hand opening her door straight up from Nosferatu, and during the exchange the vampire's head is off screen so it looks even more detached.
When the girl is killed it's a long shot with a starry background. All the scenes with humans are like that. Humans do horrible shit too like sacrifices for various reasons, but I generally put a lot of closeups in those to show that they're emotional about it.

>>3760299
not even
a headshot is a finished work
a scene is like a eye floating in nothingness and then there's a neck further down and then feet

>>3760254
Some LNs are decent or have elements that could have been decent but fell short due to overall writing.
Like index's magic vs science war setting has a lot of good ideas, but the plot shoots itself continuously for self insert nonsense.
Which is in large part why LNs work so great for anime, because anime doesnt have the time for a well written story, it just needs some fun and interesting elements to showcase.

>>3758454
Story ideas thread?

So here's my thing, itll only be about 20 pages tops so I think it's fairly reasonable.

Basically a girl who has no friends and never talks to anyone, but she has a crush on this other girl. They start going out and it turns out second girl is a sadist. First girl isnt into pain or anything but allowing herself to be hurt allows her to be close to the girl she loves, so even when the pain is too much for her the feeling of cuddling up together afterwards is enough to get her through it.

They kiss at the end and its happily ever after.


I've been running through designs and starting individual pages but it always looks like crap.

>>3760345
This was an idea I had in highschool, it's pretty cringey and nothing but world building but here goes: The story would be called "GIANT".

After a huge race war, a percentage of the human population was sent en masse into a giant hole in the earth that takes up a good 1/12th of the earth's surface like a giant crater however the walls are too steep to climb.
The victorious humans go to live in the mountains and with this distance made between the races, the ones living at the top in the mountains and close to the sky will be the first to be taken by god when the rapture happens and the ones at the bottom in the hole will be out of god's reach and will perish in the apocalypse.
After many ages have passed, the hole people have sustain life and over that time their bodies have evolved and adapted to being much closer to the earth's core. The increased gravitational pull has conditioned their bodies to become extraordinarily strong and all the heat from the sun being contained in the huge tube like of the hole like an oven has tanned their bodies to a dark red.
Anyway, the story would follow the hole people and their journey up to the surface, and as they get closer to the stars they encounter strange events and calamities that may be the influence of a greater force, possibly holy intentities or god-like beings.
It's not known what has happened to the earth's surface after all this time.
Is it still run by the victorious race that won the race wars all the way back? Or have they been taken by god already and the apocalypse is happening on the surface right now?
Perhaps the crimson skin of the hole people isn't because of the heat but because they've been turned into demons and this is what the apocalypse truly is?

Then a thought occurred to me: "Why the fuck would anyone care about this story? I only like it because I made it." and that's when I kinda dropped it.
Pic related is a crappy drawing I did around the time I had this idea.

>>3760534
>>3760345
These both have potential if done in style

>>3760544
'GIANT' anon here, I forgot to mention but I was very particular about what kind style it would have.
I was obsessed with progrock when I was coming up with the idea and was the main point of inspiration, from the mood conveyed in the music to the colour pallete and visuals of the album covers.
I wanted 'GIANT' to feel like the accumulation of this music genre adapted into a cohesive story, I wanted there to be a fantasy story that gave me the same sense of whimsy and wonder as progrock did. This story would be nothing without style, really.
The soundtrack (soundtrack? I was getting really ahead of myself at this point) would be an assortment of guitar, organ and strings, the most significant instruments in prog.
Man I'm getting really nostalgic now.

>>3760556
I can see it drawn in a trippy style like Fantastic Planet

>>3760556
I mean I find the premise pretty interesting. I'd say keep writing it if you actually enjoyed building that world. I've started writing recently but not under the pretence that I'm going to release it and it's going to be some amazing RPG that people will enjoy and appreciate; probably only myself and friends will ever see it. I don't know if I'm good or bad but I know what I like so I just write for fun for now. Maybe something will come of it, maybe not.

I had an idea for a hentai yesterday that I liked. So we have this family where the guys dicks keep growing and they have to use them to wear them down kind of like rodent teeth.When the mom dies the dad gets depressed his dick grows until it pierces his stomach. He's sitting like he committed seppuku. The sister is worried about her brother because his girlfriend left him. His dick is dangerously large and she saves him before it kills him.

>>3762450
Can someone please make this a thing

>>3762452
I will I'm actually good at drawing

>>3762450
How would his dick pierce his stomach? Dicks point away from the body

>>3762459
They grow curving in like a horn for fun

>>3762450
That's so awful that it'd easily become a hentai classic.

>>3760310
That could be cool if done properly. Would read.
>>3760325
Yeah, I actually read Index and would say it's not too well-written for the same reasons. Still love it though.
>>3760556
Would read too. You should try doing it.

>>3758454
>I've been practicing for 15-20 years
>still suck
Sure you have...

>>3758502
>It has it's own language I crafted all by myself!

I've incorporated bits and pieces of my story into other things

the major problem is I gotta stop self inserting

>>3758884
this stupid post shouldn't hit so close to home fuck. I need to finish this script already

>>3758454
>tfw you've become the wagecuck to fund your desire to draw
>tfw you want to make it big but are on a collision course for disappointment
>tfw everyday you feel like you made a big mistake but you can't turn back now

I-I'm only 19 though. It will get better, right?

>>3762450

>My MC isn't a gary stu like all those other trash stories
>He's weak and powerless
>but he has the power to negate other powers!

>tfw can't even visualize, let alone draw something
I'm so jealous of people that randomly get daydreaming fantasies

>>3762815
At 19? Easily can get better as long as you don't have insurmountable debt. I wasted 2 years on a PhD I dropped at 24 years old and now I'm starting a job I actually love in conservation. I wasted those 2 years worrying and thinking it was wrong to "turn back".

>>3762450
>When the mom dies the dad gets depressed his dick grows until it pierces his stomach. He's sitting like he committed seppuku.

It's *sudoku, anon.

>>3762450
I had the idea for a japanese ecchi where mysterious mass produced panties with animal prints were being sold everywhere and anyone who wore them became brainwashed and would think and act like the animal they're wearing.
E.g, there would be a scene in the locker room where a random girl suddenly drops to the floor on her back and starts playing with yarn in the nude wearing a tank-top and pair of panties with a kitty print on it.
Eventually some girls become aware and go around sabotaging others in an act to humiliate them and make them look like fools by forcing the underwear on them and watch them play around in the school halls all brainwashed without their skirts on.

I would never actually make this myself though.

>>3763278
>in the nude wearing a tank-top and pair of panties with a kitty print on it.
???

>>3763280
underwear nude, not butt naked

>>3763278
I like that idea

i had this idea for a webcomic where the protagonist was an overweight black man named donald trump.
the whole joke is that if someone has a name, they are visually indistinguishable from the person.
So there would be an old man named madonna, a dog named mickey mouse and other stupid bullshit.

>>3763278
Mind control fetishist?

shit thread

>>3758723
looks like I was always woke, never though of a plot beyond
>you are on side A
>you are on side B
>now fight

>>3763326
But what determines the original look? And why doesn't Donald trump himself on like millions of other Donald Trump's through the history.

>>3758497
>>3758496
>>3758495
>>3758462
>>3758454
A-anon please stop i cant take this

bumperooni

>>3762450
>>3763278
Fund these.

>>3758454
>>3758495
>>3758462
>>3758501
l i t e r a l l y m e

I just don't know how to get started with comics, just as a whole the entire idea of composing a page with panels feels odd and I dont know how to start

>>3758517
This desubh senpai

>>3766380
Start by starting and then someone will tell you where it's wrong

>>3766427
Well yeah, but even starting is so confusing because the basic idea behind it seems so intuitive.

>>3766430
unintuitive*
like, even getting started seems like a hurdle because of how composition focused it is.

>>3760534
I think rhis has potential if you flesh it out a bit better. Also add some deep metaphysical shit and some theology shit sonce it involves angels and shit. Sounds a bit like Gurren Lagan but no a shit anime

>>3766432
Just accept that what you make will likely be shit. Your brain will problem solve for you and start to figure out better approaches for next time as you work.

>>3758593
100% this. i've been building my comic universe technically since i was 12, but i realised how fucking terrible it all was and how unrealistic it was to put into fruition fairly quickly. i'm 19 now and rehauled the entire thing a couple of years ago since i was still fairly attached to a lot of the characters i'd spent so much time on, but i also realised pretty much everything this anon said too.
we've now got a fair amount of scripts done and i feel like my art is in a decent enough place where i have enough confidence for it and now have a deadline for this year.

>>3758454
pfft I'm different though. See lookit I drew a thing about muh stories. That's literally making it.

>>3758454
>>3758462
>>3758495
I had a friend in college who said this shit, and he dictated me the whole series and it was fucking awful. I didn't ask for it. Worst part was, he'd forgotten most of it, so he told me a broken story.

>>3762815
>grow up drawing on amateur level
>decide that I'm not good enough to draw professionally, and head into a wagey field
>continued practicing art on the side, but now I'm really good
>tfw get a gf and have to take care of her soon
>tfw too late to go into art

>>3758593
Most people also see as: or i am going to be great right at the begining or i just suck.

No one start big, and sometimes you may not be as bad as you were at the begining, but you are not that great yet either.

reminder that a single frame from your favorite anime is proabably /beg/ tier and a project with a similar level of quality is about 8 minutes worth of anime panels

I think its perfectly understandable to have worlds you build on slowly and such, more so if you actually do stuff with them, but I do agree it annoys me when I see people who've never finished anything in their life acting like they're gonna spend 10 years constructing an art masterpeice on a world they've had since they were 13.

I have a few worlds I like to think about and have done so since I was a young teen, but those have always been excuses to make cool scenes and draw cool characters; if I ever do end up being able to make art stuff, I'll probably come back to them, but I dont act like I'm gonna be able to create some masterpeice just because I've spent 10 years *thinking* about a world.

>>3767820
>tfw too late to go into art
It's never too late to go into art.

I'm just enjoying writing and illustrating my story for now. I may share it with a few friends. Maybe there's a slim chance it gets put out to a wider audience but why worry about that when I'm enjoying the creation aspect. Starting a project with the intent to make it the next big thing just seems like too much hassle.

>>3767797
https://youtu.be/o3G6L8doFcw

I'm thinking she should wear a rashguard as a top, since she has a lot of aquatic speriance. Then for her bag rig I kind of am designing my own concept. It's basically like a bag with a big poncho thing mounted on top that you can use for walking in shitty weather, or you can put the bag down and raise the rails that the poncho tarp is on, and you have a rudimentary tent. Plus it looks like a cape poncho and is generally neat.

big dog seems neeter

>>3758454
Still unironically in this phase, only I basically overhaul everything each year and keep a couple of the same characters.

>>3758593
The hard reality I have to agree with. I already have long become aware of the fact I live in the delusion that my story is going to take off somehow, yet I keep on dreaming about it. Right now I’m just aiming to improve my art skills until I can turn the thing into a small web comic that’s probably gonna go unnoticed, but I at least want to finally get it out of my head and execute upon the characters that I’ve been daydreaming about all these years.

Any of you anons daydreaming about character- and story arcs? I have all of these loosely flying around in my head but I don’t know how to organically fit them into my story. Or at least, I haven’t decided where I am going to put them.

The absolute worst is when you start thinking about how these characters and their progression are going to relate each other and which ones will run parallel to each other, then start changing or placing the arcs in different parts of the story because they don’t fit or you don’t like them anymore and you constantly try to craft the perfect story even though you know that when somehow the day when you put this story on paper you’ll regret it and wish you would have don it diffirently later on.

>mfw I knew this old wrinkly lady who was my AP english teacher
>she's kind of a passive aggressive cunt, and also those types to constantly inject their life experiences in lessons or discussions during class
>cried twice when she was rambling about her sister and how she's rich and has a better life than her even though the teacher worked harder or something
>its uncomfortable and awkward as shit, but most of the people in class agreed to not say a word because it was fascinating or something
>one day when she was feeling good, she told us that she wanted to publish a book
>says she's worked for years on it and thinks it'll be "as successful as harry potter"

looking back, I wanted to learn more about this dying woman with her dreams dying as much as her.

>>3767813
Gives us some details blease

I don't see anything wrong with that sort of mentality, except if you think it's going to make you rich and famous immediately.

Experiment. Cut out unnecessary parts of your story/world. Look for the underlying themes, and cringe at your younger self while you fix them. If your idea is of a comic or something, really consider how long you're willing to invest in it and start actually working on the damn thing. Also don't expect instant gratification; you have to build up a following and keep publishing the story before you'll get even a modest following of people invested in your characters.

It's a long road, and I'm not saying that it's unreasonable to expect to get somewhere, but for the love of god stop being an idea guy and just make your presence known instead of dwelling in your head with all those notes; your story won't be perfect no matter what you do, so stop ruminating over it and the structure will actually flow to you as you're producing it.

/ic/ in general has this problem of obsessing and overanalyzing and being stuck in their heads instead of actually doing art and working on shit.

>>3767687
I'm in the same boat, though in my case it really helped me grow and work on it a lot more effectively having someone else who is
>talented at art, so we can both produce the story
>genuinely invested in the story I want to tell and the project in general
>able to shoot down any of the shitty ideas I make
It also helps that I run the ideas through a couple of friends (one of which is really critical about fiction and my art in general) so we can end up with a better end product. I feel kind of lucky in that regard.

>>3773453
can I get a source on image anon

>>3766380
Write an outline of what you want to happen or a script or something. Then draw thumbnails of the page until you get a composition that best fits the narrative.

>>3773609
literally mozart from Fate Grand Order, aka that mobile game that turns famous historical figures into animu

>>3773702
I more so meant full image/artist source. as I'm getting no results reverse searching a cropped image

>>3773717
either google "Mozart FGO" then go on the wiki to find the japanese name so you can go onto pixiv to cut/paste the jap name tag into the search bar and filter to R-18 mode. Or use サリアマ (Antonio Salieri X Mozart) if you can't find it using the Mozart tag alone. I say use サリアマ because Mozart is getting the dicking instead of Salieri.
I actually have the OG picture at hand but I'm feeling a bit mischievous right now.

>>3760092
Sacrifice a few thousand hours and you can have that power, or will you maybe instead spend those hours bitching about not having that power? What will you choose? Oh what will you do little IC anon. Will it be the road that lead to what you want or will it be the road of eternal regret? I think I know what you will choose.

>>3766380
Read Scott McCloud's Understanding Comics and Making Comics (not sure about the order).

Read comics with good paneling and pay attention to how they flow.

Plan the script and sketch the pages as thumbnails like this guy said >>3773612 before committing to it, every good book or movie goes through a few drafts before the final version. Of course, you're not spposed to rewrite volume 1 through 100 before you start drawing, but make sure you plan your story arcs and don't just wing it.

Learn about directing rules from movies, like the 180 degrees rule, the movement of the scene is to the right almost always and all that.

Most importantly, you will never get good at it if you don't start actually doing it instead of just thinking about it. Create a short story just for fun before you start your 10 year long shounen masterpiece

>have amazing nightmare
>could only be used in high budget videogames as a medium
Goddamnit everytime, I probably play too much vidya.

>>3773761
I've been drawing for 6 years

>When I finally draw it it's gonna be freakin EPIC I just need to hone my skills a little first

I-I mean it's been like 10 years already but I'm gonna do it okay GAWD

>mfw I have a talented art gf who is willing to put 110% of that talent into my shitty ideas
>she's also already drawn tons of porn of the characters
>encourages me to work on my art, gives me pointers and criticism
>we're working on our webcomic right now as I type this
I feel sorry for the rest of you fuckers. Get a friend you can help shoot the shit with, and you'll see drastic improvement in your motivation.

>>3774372
I hope you're not the guy who said he'd been "drawing for 6 years" but only did on and off doodles for 4 years, and skipped 2 years entirely. That guy's been whining in a couple of threads.

>>3774544
>I've been drawing for 6 years, I did this and this and this and that
>No you haven't, you have been doodling on and off!!!!!!!!!! GASLIGHTING POWERS ACTIVATEEEEE

>>3774568
nice one reddit xD

>>3773421
I hope you do it, Anon.

We'll never be famous, but at least we'll have made something.

>>3774346
Write it down, Anon. Maybe you'll learn Unreal or Unity or some shit and make a proof of concept.

>my first idea around highschool was about worm parasites taking over the host in a zombie type fashion a year later find out about the GAME OF THE YEAR and one of the most anime around the time based on old manga from the 80’s had already done what I was planning to do
>my other idea is basically a story based similar to those animals on the flitstones but in a morden setting being breed like toys and what not and the main character is a therapeutic animal based on 90’s for an old nostalgiafag that can’t let go of the past
>in the side a dating vn about dogs/girls that are inbred/breed for the mc just like dogs from dog shows with multiple genetic illness

>>3758499
>implying that it's not just channeling Tolkien from the grave to kick people's ass simply because they called him racist

>>3762815
19? I’m turning 24 and I don’t even have a drivers license.

>>3760254
>mfw I'm actually writing an isekais whit webnovel
I also have two other whole stories and universes I've building up for years. The isekaishit is to actually learn to write passably.
Shit is a fertilizer, just need to plant some seeds in it and results will show, eventually.

>>3777429
*isekaishit

The amount of projecting here is unreal.

pls help.

>>3760534
mate this is brilliant, i love it

how do you even think of these things
t. uncreative lurker

>>3759207
There was those guys that did the Shounen Jump contest last year. Didn't naf win?

>>3777434
>the amount of projecting here is unreal

that's the point, we've all been through these

It's fine if you admit when parts are retarded or you're not educated/dedicated enough to fully realize it as well as you hope to yet. Look it over, cut out the dumb shit and cling to disjointed scenes, themes and settings that could be easily worked into a more competent work you could achieve in the future. You'll need inspiration when you actually do write something, after all.
As far as 'it probably won't take off' concerns go, if you're also seriously attempting to git gud at drawing/painting in the meanwhile (which I assume you'd be since /ic/), then a very pretty webcomic has an exponentially greater chance to be successful than purely written work. It's a lot harder to tell if a book might be worth reading than it is to glance between the covers of Sonichu and Berserk. In fact, there's such an unfulfilled craving for good webcomics that plenty of them that are both narratively and aesthetically mediocre make bank just by existing without competition.

>>3758593
Good wake up call. I guess my problem is i dont have any influential people around me. I feel like i'm working on this alone.

>>3759207
>Has anyone from here ever posted a finished comic?
I draw like 20 pages then I destroy them because they're shit

>>3758454
Who are you quoting?

>>3758593
100% agree

>>3758595
>not constantly fleshing out new world as you do your daily chores
Everyone does this bro

>>3758537
Kinda like this except i did well because my professors just spoiled me.

>tfw have worked on my shonen plot since 4 years
>15 arcs, way too many characters
>keep adding shit during these 4 years, too compicated, feels awful
>like, HxH level of complicated with a somewhat One Piece setting.
>Already have drawn one chapter and almost finished the second
>feel horrible about quitting now
What do ?

>>3778392
I'm genuinely curious to see this. Could you post at least one page?

>>3778396
Here's a page of the first chapter. It's in french for now. Still need to scan it to add shading and proper writting though, probably in french and english.

>>3773609
NAYRT but here's the source
https://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=manga&illust_id=68783218