/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

i really want to post here but i'm afraid i will always be relegated to /beg/
feels bad

>>3762536
so get better

>>3762536
Just post that shit anyway. If you get relegated to /beg/, go there and shit up that thread until someone tells you that you're too good for /beg/.
Then return to the draw threads. Get sent back to /beg/, rinse and repeat until no one tells you to go back to /beg/.
Just draw.

>>3762691
>tfw too good for beg but too bad for drawthread

>Tfw too much of a brainlet to paint traditionaly
But it's fun at least

>>3762691
What if no one comments on my art regardless of which thread I post in?

>>3762524

>>3763014
I don't think anime head-to-body proportions work with a more realistic/detailed style. Kinda reminds me of the awful overwatch "chibi" sprays, specially the girl on the right.

How do I render?

>>3763126
by that I mean, how do I make the ground look more realistic-ish? More crater-like? This is the first thing I've done digitally

>>3763126
>>3763131
harsh shadows, textured brushes, and references

>>3763121

You think it is too cartoony? The girl on the right i intentionally made her face more anime like with bigger and wider eyes.
I'm trying to minimize the cartoony, overly stylized look tho, but you know what they say.
Old habits die hard

>>3763140
I just meant make her head a bit smaller, like this, also her leg was looking a bit wonky

just playing around and trying to paint lips. Not sure if i should go back to /beg/?

>>3763154
thanks man. i like your improvements.

>>3763176
stop painting, start sketching and working on fundamentals.

>>3763243
I'm doing both things actually (sketching and Painting) And while painting I'm working on my values hence fundamentals.

>>3763155
Looks bretty good, what brush did you use?

>>3763270
Default SAI watercolour and brush and a chalk brush

practicing some heads, was going to try the 100 heads challenge but idk

>>3763014
>>3762903
nice work

>>3763395
yare yare daze

>>3763253
okay fuck my crit then, keep painting like shit :D

I working on this style for three years now it is gooding better.

>>3762524
is nsfw accepted?

>>3763580
Mistakes I know I need to work on:
> Hair
> Face proportions
> hands
> Develop better ways of texturizing

*Sigh* I know but i dont know how

about to color this i think?

now i am actually gonna color this i think

>>3763580
hope you don't mind a redline, I think it's mostly your fundamentals, but also what throws it off is that the pose isn't very "aesthetic" for that angle, if that makes sense, so it kinda ruins the composition.

>>3763600
>>3763611
I like your style a lot, but your line weight is all over the place, I think you should do the rest of the drawing the same way you did her hair.

>>3763613
Oh not at all!
You're correct, your redline clearly marks a
triangular composition. Lmao How i missed that head and her right arm.
Thank you so much

>>3763614
not sure exactly what you mean by doing the rest the way i did her hair, but i do absolutely agree that i got super sloppy with my line weight. i think part of it is zooming in and out, i lose track of how my lines are looking.

going to be fixing that up before i color, so thanks!!

>>3763627
>not sure exactly what you mean by doing the rest the way i did her hair
I think that was just me being redundant, because the hair has a very night line weight.

Can't wait to see it colored!

>>3763176
>>3763253
Its good that you're working with painting alongside other fundies if thats what you ultimately want to do. Post wherever you want, are they photostudies or from imagination? My only critique rn is to pay attention to where you're using a soft blending brush to create a blurred edge vs where you're using a harder one, its not consistent in the corners of the mouth or around the nostrils.

>>3763613
the necks too long, the heads to short, torso's masculine, the arms are randomly placed or done so to fit a composition (story > forcing a composition), they're usually doing something sexual like grabbing their private parts with their hands, the red line pose isn't very sexy.

Progress over a few days.
Well, most graphite found its way into my kneadable eraser.

>>3763803
And now I’m hitting the sack

>>3763789
Get out toddler boddied dogfucker

>>3763138
minus the textured brushes honestly, in order to understand what textured brushes can do and when to use them he should actually understand how to render texture without them.

>>3763702
Thank you. I will try and improve my edgecontrol :) They are from imagination.

Heres a wip

doing this project for a rapper, here is what i got now

>>3763943
Very cute! Don't think I like the lines through the hair though.

>>3764179
Oh dont worry, i'll delete the hair lines later after shading them :D, just a little guide to make the hair transparent through the face

I know I'm /beg/ but I need serious crit/advice. I'm a bit stuck with figure drawing. I think I need to get better at proportions and making the figure look whole/not disjointed but not sure if that's my only problem. I did fun with a pencil but am a bit overwhelmed with all the choices as to what do do next. Any suggestions?

Thoughts, please? Thank you!

>>3764379
Try to find out what gesture is.
Not copy exercises, but what it is, the movement of the form thru space as it sits perfectly still.
In other words, how the form exists in space and what the core of the thing does as it sits still.
Ahh, I wish I had better words.

>>3762524
Just finished a practice animation

My morning sketch sheet. Not sure what I want to do today.

>>3764438
I learn from exercises and then apply what I've learned when I do life drawing. Also, dunno if gesture is my biggest problem, I struggle with construction and proportions mainly.

Oil Sketch I did today

>>3764606
This is good, but your palette looks a bit cartoony, I think you should look into skin undertones.

Here's something that could help.
http://kmcmorris.blogspot.com/2015/11/how-to-paint-lifelike-skin-tones.html

>>3764670
Yeah I know, but that was kinda the purpose of the study, looking into how far I can push the color. But thanks for the link, will give it a read.

Is it normal to render with pencil after i made the limework w/ ink?

>>3764674
Also , should i get better b4 posting here, maybe move to that other doodle board.

>>3764673
Painting like that will lead you to oversaturate and miss the less chromatic parts of skin tones.

>>3764674
>2336x4160

>>3764693
Its 2 am whad did you espect?

I dug up my old tablet and I think I'm getting better at using it now.

>>3764606
Photograph it without the angles lmao bey her right eye is even farther off center

>>3764806
Couldnt theres too much glare

This is a caricature. Thoughts? Thx.

>>3763385
super cool

>>3764806
>ic

Would this make a good cover for a noise rock/ avant psych rock album?

What kinds of flowers should I draw, /ic/?

What should be improved on this draft?
What would make it more appealing?

I made this
It's Marzia, Pewdiepie's girlfriend

>>3763611
It's very appealing, but it's pretty unfortunate that you ignored >>3762043, which showed the flaw in the anatomy.
Do you feel like her right leg is connected to her pelvis?

Finished this, I think

>>3765739
i knew something was wrong with her leg, and didnt even noticed that anon had adjusted that. i only noticed his comment about the eye and now i hate myself wow

>>3765744
Ah damn.
About the colors you could maybe either make the pillows more pastel or harmonize their hue a bit.
For now it's abit too much saturated colors.

>>3765747
Funny and quite nice.

>>3765748
Yeah, I totally agree with the pillows. I was trying to act on advice I was given to go for more saturated colors because I overuse pastels.. definitely needs some work tho.

>>3765219
I really like how subtle everything is, but the legs are fucked

>>3765661
The eye on the left is misaligned with the one on the right and both eyes might be a bit too high up on the head.
I'd add small indent on the skull next to the eye on the right because it's also making her face feel flat and egglike and her jaw/side of the face on the left might be extending too much and making the connection to the neck look off.
If you're not giving her that big neck scarf, put some collarbones there so it's not a flat empty surcafe, I do like me some collarbones
Leg on her right looks off / bends in a strange way but I don't know how to explain it really.
I checked Teste's official art and the tips of her shoes are more box-like/similat to loafer shoes so you might try to adjust those too.
I hope that helps, looking forward to progress update, anon.

wip robot guy in driver's seat

>>3763943
cute!
>>3763385
these are nice, is that Marcus Aurelius I see in there?

>>3765992
fuck I forgot to attach the drawing

>>3765914
The knee is bending innwards and the foot is going outwards , thats whats strange

>>3766195
>>3765914
The thigh is going otwards as well

>>3764732
looks cool anon

patchy skin is a joy to paint

Trying to tighten up my muscles, especially legs

>>3766352
Don't use these as reference. To anyone who's trying to "learn" human anatomy, attaching names you the muscles really helps you keep track of them. You'll also have to draw them repeatedly until you can construct [body part/section] from memory.

You'll need to be able to work somewhat fluently in perspective to get good use out of most tutorials or anatomy books.

You'll need to understand 1 point and 2 point perspective in order to use Loomis' books/methods. Moderndayjames has great vids on perspective.

Looking at martin deschambault, practicing composition, trying to forget that I'm drawing buildings and just designing with shapes

gotta do the background now

>>3762524
Does anything stand out in a bad way?
First time I did a background. Feels good man. How long would this have taken you? Took me around 3 days of constant work, but then I work very slowly

>>3766756
What the fuck is that shit ew

>>3766768
The shit i jerk it to

>>3764544
I'm not much better than you... but... Your lines are really scratchy and aren't confident. Not only does it tend to look like shit but in my experience it also blocks one from getting in the zone and really feeling the drawing. You have to be ready to accept that the lines won't come out sometimes and fuck everything up.

Just think about it statistically, if a certain proportion of your lines are complete shit then if you chicken scratch the drawing instantly becomes mediocre because you have made sure with the law of large numbers that your page is filled with shit lines. The less lines you use the greater the chance that you accidentally make something good ;)

>>3766352
some of your knowledge seems good and some like a hodgepodge of bad stylization. where is the gluteus medius?

Here it goes. Haven't posted in a very long while.

I feel like I haven’t posted this WIP in enough threads yet so....

>>3766821
Love it so far, fuck it up and I'll strangle you

>>3766988
I really like the environment but the quality of the character is significantly lower, try to change it or just don't put it there

>>3766821
Blog?

>>3762524
too masculine looking?

Orsimer girl from TES. I want it to be a square composition with a Echantere (basically a big centipede bull) mount to the right.
Any suggestions on the composition and placement of objects, water, foliage and other clutter? I am not good at it at all.
Also redline on the body is welcome, this pose was confusing so I had to ask my gf to pose for me to figure out some stuff, some of it I am still not sure about.

>>3767249
No, that's a type of a girl that I personally find attractive.
That is if she has dark hair and piercing blue eyes.
>>3766821
Obviously looks great, here is some stuff I noticed though.
Try to tweak the values of the sandy beach, it looks a bit flat especially in relation to the water.
Additionally obviously you can start adding more saturated colors now, unless this is the color palette you were pushing for.

>>3766821
How do I get this good?

>>3762524

>>3767395
There is nothing particularly mind blowing about this. It's just a person who actually has good grasp over all fundamentals and good taste.
You get this good by actually studying your perspective, composition, form, color theory...you know all of those things that /ic/ tells you to practice yet you manage to skip out on.

>>3765747
Mike?

>>3766011
Not sure what it's supposed to be but it's really centered, horizontally as well as vertically. Maybe move the horizon line up or down?

>>3766238
Your colors are very off if it's supposed to be a study, having a white background really warps the perception of colors from the original image where the background is much darker. And the patchy skin doesn't come across as well

>>3766556
Looks really nice, love the scale of everything. I feel like the large triangular shape in the middle should be darker, though. It feels out of place with all the surfaces facing the viewer being dark.

>>3766821
Agree with what the other anon said about the values, otherwise I love it. The color on the dragon is wonderful.

Started rendering out the sketch from last thread, another day and it should be done.

>>3767408
I'm convinced that great artists have never had to grind fundies. I think talent is real and it just comes to them naturally.

>>3767441
You are a fucking retard and you are diminishing hard work of people because you yourself are an NGMI.

>>3767441
No anon, they all practiced for countless hours. No one gets any skill just out of nowhere. They might have a certain edge by virtue of talent, but talent without practice loses to practice without talent.
Stop looking for excuses, if you want to get good at something, you need to put in the work.

>>3767441
bait

I colored this

>>3767444
>>3767459
I'm sorry the truth hurts. I'm not going to make it, and you guys probably aren't either. But whatever, let us all keep living a fantasy.

>>3767464
/beg/

>>3767466
You are an NGMI because you are a shitty person

>>3764385
lighting looks flat, try using harsher shadows and highlights to define the shape.

carme Miranda vaporwave

>>3767467
thanks heres another one

>>3765914
>>3766195
>>3766196
It's interesting that you all mention the leg, because of all the problems that's the only one that was intentional.
I thought giving it some curve would give it some swoosh, but apparently it doesn't really work.

Apart from that, a lot of somewhat small changes to the face, torso that was bothering, hand and ship size.

>>3766821
>>3766988
These are some beautiful colors anons.

>>3767412
>if it's supposed to be a study
nah it's just a niche meme in /sp/. You're correct tho thanks

>>3766011
personally i like the composition
>>3766644
looking good brian
>>3767249
not really

drawing some concept art for muh stories

>>3767694
>not drawing the her rear, legs, and foot
disappointing, anon, very disappointing

>>3767796
I'm surprised you recognized it since the likeness is so off. might finish it if I feel like not being lazy.

>>3767789
Try doing it again without the chicken scratchies, hard to see whats going on. Left leg/foots perspective is wack and why upload a mildly blurry photo at 2297x2894? Barely fits mah screen m8. But yeah could be kinda cool if you had the definition, so looking foward to seeing the next attempt.

Any thoughts? Didn't touch the hair, face or right boot from it's sketch, but I'm not sure whether I'm pushing the hard light too much, or detailing too much.

Trying to find a nice look for a comic that doesn't take me too long to actually draw and is something I like doing. Not crazy about painting, so I'm trying to get away with carrying the work through line.

>>3767789
CROSSOVER EVENT OMGOMG
>>3768181
>Try doing it again without the chicken scratchies, hard to see whats going on.
SCRATCH ATTACK https://youtu.be/j5oaCPCqN3Y

>>3768218
I honestly don’t understand what I’m looking at here. Is she wearing a bustier? Why is it so flat and weirdly shaped?

>>3768181
don't reply to him

>>3768218
looks like she has smallpox or something

>>3768232
damn

>>3768242
no u

wanted to work with positive + negative space along with some text

lyrics are from season 2 episode 3 by the glass animals

>>3768258
my advice to you is just draw. I'm making a guess here, but that guess is that you want to draw, but feel kind of embarrassed or overwhelmed by the idea of practicing, so you make font based illustrations. I might be wrong, but if I'm not wrong, please just do some studying. Drawing is really fun and it's not hard desu.

you're partially right, as I'm okay at normal, non font based art. my biggest weakness is font based art, so that's why I practiced it. Thank you for the advice.

>>3768219
Nice deflect, have fun (not) improving.
>>3768242
Guess there's no gettin through to poor Jimbo after all :'(

>>3768261
Hmmmm I likey but the hair on the left really thows off the form ::// good stuff tho

>>3768232
This is pretty amazing, anon.

One small criticism though, it's hard to discern the size of the dragon and the girl, my assumption is that he's a baby dragon and she's a couple of feet away from him, in that case I think you should have her be a bit lower/smaller to emphasize the harsh angle.

Having the top of their heads follow the angle of the slopes in the background would help the overall composition too.

>>3768261
i know what you're drawing but good lord is that a fucking terrible pose. learn to composition, it's a fucking mess of a pose and silhouette

I can't fucking take this anymore.

>>3768219
Why are you trying to deflect criticism?

>>3768372
?

>>3768232
I swear to god anon fix those eyes or I'll find you

>>3768232
That might sell well as a storybook illustration, just sayin'.

>>3768232
>Zog fanart
Huh. Looks nice, though, good stuff Anon.

>>3764732
looks rly good and you have good lines. The only problem that i see are her eyes. too distant imo

>>3765735
looks really great. I like your style

>>3766238
He’s looking a bit brown-nosey

Looking good overall, though

>>3766988

alright /draw/ i'm ready to test myself so i can finally leave /beg/ behind
give me a challenging scene and i'll try to do it as best as i can.

>>3768690
2 downie kids doing gymnastics

>>3768690
Roll and draw

>>3768714
This shit is gay, the last column is supposed to say something specific not cause an existential crisis

>>3768714
Cool image anon ill roll then. Ill do the downies if i pass

>>3768737
What are you talking about?

>>3768714
yeah ok maybe

>>3768714
>sketch
>technology
>based on random google result
pass

>>3768862
NEW POLL

the memeschlock trashman has voted for himself almost 50 times.

This poll only allows one vote per visitor:

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VOTE

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>pic related, this is memeschlock man

>>3768714
roll

How do I go about refining and cleaning my paintings, I can always seem to get to this stage but I really struggle getting further.

>>3768975
someone should make a poll about how annoying the poll spammer is. Jimmy is goofy at least.

>>3769061
as you wish
https://linkto.run/p/R54MFEM6

>>3768232
is that supposed to be a boy? that's the only part i don't like

>>3768912
you should look into some composition stuff. all the lines of action point to looking at the tree on the right and out of the image. try designing the cape to point back to her feet or something and then back at her chest/face. look at some mucha, see how the hair and a lot of lines in the action always lead your eye back to the focal point? the focal point is unclear in your image, possible looks like the leaf stem the cape is pointing too. there's nothing that keeps the eye on the character. the bag is also right in the center and maybe seems like the focal point too but then the eye has nowhere to go.

I colored this

>>3769118
also working on this

>>3768761
>rainbow colors
>urban
>phrase: bust twats
oof

>>3769118
>>3769173
Looks shit, as always

Trying out Drawbox stuff

>>3769173
Shit.

Hey guys, i'm having a bit of a pickle with these legs, i think the in first one it looks weird and maybe too high, the second one i did in a bit of a rush and looks retarded but more inline with how the perspective of that leg would be in my mind.
But i'm also thinking i may just be thinking too much about this and if i go through with it it'll end up looking weird. What do you guys think?

>>3762524
any advice would be much appreciated!

>>3768366
Looks awesome! Honest question though what's the point of all the horizontal and diagonal lines?
Is that for perspective? Or proportions? Something else?

>>3769602
Arms are too short or foreshortening wasn't done correctly

>>3768714
Rolling because I'm curious of what I'd get

finished this I think. more or less achieved what I was going for with this one, curious how it translates into a process for my next one

>>3769602
I think this is looking cool so far but her arms seem very small, and the way the hair on the right doesn’t look connected to the rest of it. I think the pose would have more power if her legs were set further apart and her shoulders were as high up.

>>3769458
I hope you don't mind a redline, I think it might be an issue with the anatomy of the legs

Not sure if I want to do more with this. I couldn't think of a good outfit for the girl.

>>3769208
> Not drawing a sexy, supersized, colorful advertisment in a urban cyberpunk setting

I'm pretty new to this style so please be gentle x

>>3769702
Still sucking, eh Nosey?

>>3767386
this is mostly good, I just can't help but gripe, and this isn't just you, but everybody who draws a female character with those orc teeth. Nobody gets it right, they always look tacked on, they never look like they stretch or alter the shape of the lips and sides of the mouth.

either have smaller teeth or bigger mouth, you can't have both if you want it to look realistic

>>3767511
Looking much better, eyes are much better aligned and face and shoulders are better constructed. Both legs look good to me compared to first pic.
That being said, eyes look a bit scary to me in both images, her iris/pupils kind of stare right through. That can be fixed with shading, though.
Unrelated but, I'm not sure if even game artist knew what he wanted to do with her shoes, they really confuse me
https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/kancolle/images/9/9c/Commandant_Teste_Full_Damaged.png

Crit so far? I just realized it kinda reads like shit from the thumbnail.

>>3768232
You need to saturate the fore or background because everything blends together and doesnt really pop up. There are really great spots in girl and the dragon to add shadows/light to make them catch the attention of the eye even more.

>>3770597
reads like absolute shit from thumbnail and without

>>3770317
I did try to protrude her jaw forward, but the lips aren't deformed enough I guess.
I will rework the values around her chin to indicate deformation from the tusks.

>>3770376
ok, thanks for the comment.
Won't have time to work on this before the weekend.

Funny about the shoes, coz my ref was a very low res version of the official art, and I did see them as loafers too... who cares anyway.

>>3770628
Thank you for the helpful critique

>>3770671
looks really generic both design wise and technically (rendering etc).
However in some sense it draws into all overused bad clichés of bad 'concept art', like the over glowiness of things.
Storywise it seems kinda bad, since it looks like you have a human just standing besides a giant scary alien.

The takeway should be to try to draw things that are more on your level instead of aping mediocre concept art.

>>3770699
also i feel he's using custom brushes as a clutch.
bad bad habit to get into

>>3770597
here anon

>>3770699
The design isn't mine, so I can't change it, sorry.
I literally added the human at the last second for scale lol, I should do something interesting with him, you're right.
>The takeway should be to try to draw things that are more on your level instead of aping mediocre concept art.
Maybe, I honestly feel like you're onto something there. Give me a face or a human body and I feel very comfortable with making it look good, but I haven't drawn a creature in soooo long. That doesn't mean I'll stay away from it, I'll just keep trying to improve.

>>3770704
Thank you so much man!!

>>3762524
Hey bros, can you tell me which legs are in correct perspective? They kind of look like they're both right to me. Which would look better if I hadn't fucked up below the knees?

>>3770808
Number 2 is more accurate

did that whole draw this again meme

>>3770866
>have i gotten better .png
No. They're both bad but left is more appealing.

>>3770873
could you be more specific anon? hell, write a wall of text if you like.

>>3770880
not that Anon but I prefer the left too, the more realistic form and depth etc doesn't look as nice on such a cartoon character
the character's design is better on the left too, lip color, eye shadow, hair/ears

crits welcome.

>>3770866
Left has sexier hips.

>>3770866
>>3770953
the hips are pretty good. high hips are great. really accentuates the waist.

how to actually get good with rendering?

>>3770866
op who posted that pic, never gonna shade anymore.

>>3770962
Endless hours lazily thumbnailing. Once you can nail base values, the rest falls in.

>>3770866
wip sketch of 2019 redo

>>3770953
>>3770957
jokes aside i admit i do like the older outfit better in some ways

painted some ladies

>>3770950
really good traditional paint look to it. the red in the background is a bit distracting, maybe tone it down a bit by making it grayer or browner? Then the shields would have the most vibrant red in the piece. good composition. I like how they all seem to be reacting differently to whatever they're encountering. maybe give their faces a tad bit more detail so you can highlight that feature. good work.

>>3770209
this is pretty abstract so I gotta give feedback based on the vibes it gives me. The shape looks like a jester hat and I see a bunch of eyes in it. The look you're going for with the detailed patterned type thing is worth pursuing and developing more, you have the patience for it and the attention to detail for it, just maybe try to work with overall shapes (read: silhouette) that are reminiscent more of nature and not scary clowns. a flower, a leaf, a sun, a tree, a rock, a wave of water, a shell, a moon, a crab, whatever inspires you. Basically this rorschach painting of sorts you've created is not terribly appealing imo in its largest form but the way youre working with the lines within it is good and keep doing your thing in that regard. Maybe appeal isn't want you're going for, in which case, disregard my commentary.

>>3769644
jawline needs to relatively match the tilt of the rest of the face. The shoulders also need a bit of work. Her right shoulder would jut out a bit more in my estimation. Love your colors and how you've painted this, very nice imo.

>>3769241
keep on keeping on.

>>3769049
it looks fine to me. I see some sketchy lines like on the shoulder and around the little puppy's head etc that you could buff out, maybe that will help?

>>3768685
If he is supposed be short, let it be so. If not, loomis it up and give him some more height. You need darker values on the face etc in detail, it's a bit hard to read. Good attention to detail on his muscles. very good work on the landscape there and your colors overall.

I wanna know how the painting makes you feel, critiques aside. Thanks in advance.

love mechanical nonesense

>>3771167
redjuice?!

>>3771179
who dat?

>>3771179
no but i'm going to style jack him now.

>>3771137
jawline was the last thing I fixed

>>3771144
Hm, doesn't really make me feel anything. What shoud it make me feel?

These are supposed to be nymphy women turning into fish.

dont judge me

>>3771374
That's actually cool

Not worth it's own thread so I'll post my question here, why does it seem that angles where the head is above the eye line and its tilted up just don't work? i feel like the head doesn't look good in this angle even if it's relatively well drawn.

If you have any examples to show that the head can be appealingly drawn like that in a piece/composition, please show it to me.

>>3771395
It works, it's just an unnatural view for most people.
Usually you get to see people at this angle in rare situations, like of a girl is on top or if you fell or some shit. You are just not used to it.

>>3771395

I'm having a hard time figuring out what you mean. Can you post an example of this?

>>3771446
I guess he means something like pic related? Not sure

>>3771448

Well if that's the case I'm going to have to disagree with this whole notion! A lot of heroic poses you see are done from that angle. Looks fucking majestic if you ask me.

>>3769106
Good advice thanks
I must admit I never pay too much attention to the lines of action when composing

>>3771337
Thank you for your honesty. I asked because I hope my art makes some feels but it doesn't all the time, and that's okay too. Sometimes nothing's a real cool feel.

Faces or feces?

>>3771717
your loomis test results came in-- it's faces.

>>3771726
Thanks anon. I actually freehanded it, got sick of using loomis construction.

>>3771712
If you want to evoke a feel, you should plan an artwork accordingly. For starters, certain colors evoke certain feelings. Also make sure people could relate to something in your image. Right now you have too many things going on that don't fit together and are competing for attention, thus the viewer may not be sure what you're trying to say. You are the creator, so take advantage of that and channel people's emotions.

I is done.

>>3771746
Awesome

>>3771746

Lovely! I really like how clean and tidy everything is without it looking too photo realistic. I gotta ask. Is there a market for this sort of thing? I would hope there is but I'm mostly into character stuff so that's why I'm asking.

>>3771735
but you used it for some time, that's what matters and shows. It's the training wheels.

>>3771746
What’s your process for this? Do you start with 3D model or plot it out? Photo as a base?

shitty lighting from my office lamp, but whatever

>>3771817
crits welcome btw

>>3771749
Thanks anon.

>>3771761
Thanks! Yeah, there is actually. And it's only growing. Visual novel backgrounds are looked for quite a lot. And the good thing with being an background artist for these is that you have, if you land a gig, at least 15-20 backgrounds secured that need to be done over the course of a few months since commissioners barely have two people for the same background position. Good money if you somewhat have a fitting style. In case you decide to do this I would advice starting with artworks in one-point-perspective, that's easier to accomplish for starters.

>>3771782
The client usually has some reference images for mood, general architecture or specific items but apart from that I only set up two grids and start sketching. I used to use SketchUp to set up a base a few years ago but after working through a big portion of Scott Robertson's books I got good enough to do it without 3D. Pic related is the inital sketch.

>>3771817
Lighting and shading looks flat. Construction also needs some work. Be sure to sketch out the 3D forms of the figure before you shade it and figure out where the lighting is coming from.

>>3771838
Thanks!

Just sketching this atm..might ink over the pencil.

Currently sketching this one...thinking about inking it.

>>3771740
Thank you so much, I see what you're saying and I am definitely going to keep this in mind for my future works. I have gone way too far with this particular work to re-do it entirely but it will serve as a lesson for me. Unless you have feedback on how to fix it at this stage? like should I get rid of the moon in the background or tone it down? I agree the planning stage was where this should have been thought out.

>>3771922
good attention to detail and linework but I would move the eye up more before inking. just my opinion. good work on the ear and hair.

>>3771746
perspective on the corner bookshelf is all kinds of fucked, anon

>>3771926
Hm, I think the moon is your least problem.
The most jarring thing is the magical tablet on a tree I think. Overall the image has a good portion of round, flowing shapes but the squared surface and the drawn boxes really make it look off. There is no connection between any of the objects in the image and removing any won't solve the problem I think. Maybe it's best to leave it as it is and start a new image with a new idea.

>>3772010
Damn, I felt something was off but in the end I didn't crosscheck it. It really just seems to be the bottom part though? I'll see if the client has any changes to make and when I return to it for a revision I'll fix that. Can't be fucked to be work more on it today

>>3771144
Less alone in trying to draw well. Even magical tree fairies have to grind.

I don't like the wings in her hair at all. Maybe you could change it to a laurel wreath or some other hair accessory. I know you said you didnt want crit sorry. But already she looks like she isn't actually sitting on anything and then she has these weensy wings that couldn't hold anything up and aren't moving. The question of how she is staying where she is makes a distraction and gives an unease.

>>3772014
ty that's great feedback, I think its still salvageable since that edit isn't too big a deal considering my layers or lack thereof. I'm going to get rid of that magical tablet thing and replace it with something less jarring, like maybe she's painting some boxes on the tree itself. It might not be perfect but it will make it much better imo. thanks again.

>>3772075
That's a good idea. Maybe have her have a magic brush thats she is drawing patterns on the tree with. You could have the tree covered until the point where she is currently at. She's just so bored that she's doodling on the tree reaching up into the clouds and it keeps going on. Maybe have some distant trees in the back that are already fully covered? That's what I would do from the top of my head right now.

>>3772066
no, I do want crits and impressions, sorry if I worded it poorly.
I agree with the wings thing especially if the way/how she is sitting is not established well enough, which I can agree with you on that. That's another thing I can fix. pic related is why i want the wings but I can tone it way down or just get rid of it if it's still too much. The wanting to feel less alone in trying to draw well/grind fundies was my impetus for this piece lol it's nice you put words to it. thanks for the great feedback.

>>3772087
that's such a good idea I'm going to run with it, thank you kind anon

>>3762524
I'm struggling with values and shading, but having fun just drawing whatever comes to mind without a plan.

>>3772087
>>3772066

I'm hoping it looks more like she's sitting on the limb of the tree instead of hovering. Thanks again for all the feedback and ideas, I think this is a big improvement with those changes.

>>3762691
Will never happen. There is ALWAYS someone to tell you to go to /beg/ even if you never belonged there in the first place. Probably safer just putting all your art in /beg/ no matter if you were Michelangelo himself.

Que the person who hates Michelangelo and calls him a hack who belongs in /beg/.

>>3772173
it's looking good, keep it up. Values and shading etc comes with practice and you're getting good practice here.

>>3772173
>>3772182
I agree, just keep going. I like your drawings and if you enjoy drawing I'm sure your shading will catch up. I have the same problem where I am a line artist but light rendering I neglected for too long.

>>3772194
>>3772182
Thanks guys. Yeah, I've totally neglected rendering. I tried some painting out and realized I have to start here first. I have no idea how people can visualize shading the folds in clothes or light on metal.

Is this art

>>3772200
Move everything left an inch and you'd have some nice composition.

>>3772178
From the thumbnail feels like she is floating up close is a bit better. I think the issue to my eyes is that it looks like the surface she is resting on is inclined so she would fall, mostly because you haven't flattened her butt horizontally, right now it feels she might slide down.
The feet are rather proportionally small to my eyes but it might be an aesthetics choice, I'm aware some cultures praise small feet.
I like the color but she maybe could use some warms on her body, the cubes being painted on the trunk is a nice touch.

>>3772199
Your line skills are advanced enough that I can tell you with confidence (at least in my opinion) that learning shading is just the same thing. It's just the amount of time you spend doing it, studying it, thinking about it, etc. Whether you can visualize well or not.

>>3772208
Thank you man, really appreciate it. Here is a wall of faces for your time.

>>3772207
the trunk area with the seat still needs more depth, I agree and will work on it more. definitely gonna add some warms it needs it. Thank you for the compliment on the boxes, and to this anon who inspired it >>3772087

Color is too fucking hard lads, send help

>>3772222
Cool man, nice work and you're welcome

slowly going with the orc girl

>>3772178
If her feet are at that angle then her left knee shouldn't be that apart in length from her right knee, even if she's pushing her right leg up and inwards... But I think it's mainly the angle of the feet that's throwing it off.

>>3772227
read some James Gurney - color and light. This is pretty decent how it is though imo.
I like your meatwad and hope you update us on this if you decide to make big changes.

slowly working on orc girl
any help? especially with background

>>3772246
yeah now that you mention it I see that needs work. thank you

>>3772099
I wouldn't say to tone the wings down if you want them there, rather tone it up then! So they wont seem like an afterthought

>>3772252
I feel like her left shoulder would jut out more and be higher in that pose and her boob wouldn't dig into her arm like that. really great work with your colors. background is looking good, i think the rule of thumb when it comes to landscapes is that closer areas look warmer/more vibrant in color scheme and the further you see the bluer things look in the distance. so if you're planning on making the area where she is standing hotter in comparison to that hill in the background then i think it'd check out. mayeb add some far away grass to break up horizon a bit? looking forward to seeing any updates you post on this.

>>3764385
i saw this weeks ago. i get you want crit to know what to improve but maybe you should draw more.

>>3772268
I made my gf do it to test how tits would behave, but I think that bra fucked it up, the tits looked better when naked in the drawing because they were more accurate.
There should be more stuff in bg farther away and possibly a sleeping mount behind the grass in forefront, also water.
I'm just really annoyed by cast shadows, I want someone to explain to me how shadows are cast especially during the day from the sun.

i should probably be posting in /beg yet here i am.
i did this from referenc but without measuring.
how do i get better? practice more ? or am i missing something..

>>3772280
James Gurney - Color and Light is the book to read from for help with shadows and daylight and stuff like that imo.

also i tried dicking around with some cheep waterclours and i dont get how they can be used professionaly. any tips or good tutorial suggestions?

>>3772284
studying and practicing is like the 'diet and exercise' equivalent of this art improvement game.
try this advice. take a blank piece of paper and redraw it again straight from reference. Try measuring by sight even if you're just eyeballing it-- for example how much smaller is the hand than the head, etc. pay close attention to the relationships in size and position between the objects in view. Then see how the two drawings compare.

>>3771456
wasn't trying to make a notion anon, was just asking a question. thanks for the reply

>>3771821
that's interesting to hear. How did you get the job? Advertise yourself in forums or on reddit? I'm the person that did the OP image btw.

>>3772288
I'm a fan of Kelly Eddington watercolors channel and "the mind of watercolor" channel on youtube.

>>3772227
Blog?

>>3772304
thanks ill check it out

>>3772252
last minute tweaks before sleep, I'll add a sleeping mount semi visible between the hills and also need something in upper left corner to fix up the compo, like clouds or something
I am still thinking about making foreground hotter or not

>>3772301
I just upload to dA, insta and so on. If you have a big body of work people will come for you, didn't really have to advertise for the last one and a half years aside from posting new work and updating commission info.

FUCK

>>3762903
That hand on our right, you should fix it.

>>3770597
Idk, I like this more than >>3770704, it makes you look into the painting, and looks like a more natural lighting for that time of day. Imho, you just need to put some pink highlights on the back of the standing dude.

Animation in progress.

Hello all - Here is my progress so far. (about 5 months)

I'd like some criticism to help steer me in the right direction. Thanks

>>3767492
>>3767464
Not /beg/. They are nice. Keep it up

I'm struggling with those ragged rusty metal textures

>>3772332
Ah, thanks a lot for answering! Take care!

>>3771821
Inspiring, thanks for showing the initial sketch

>>3771922
You're on the right track but lose the blurry shading, it just makes your drawing dirty and adds nothing to it. Everyone does it at the beginning because we think the smooth tones are closer to reality, but really it just looks bad. Also use less lines for the hair, it's another common mistake but by filling it with strokes you're just giving it the spaghetti look. I'm not sure why the ear is so deformed and if you're going with something specific for the character but it looks pretty out of place, it's like an old lady's ear on a girl.
Lastly but not leastly it's evident how less of a shit you gave about the belt that holds her hair and about the shirt. Quality consistency throughout the drawing is important.

>>3768685

>>3772317
fixing the composition a bit

>>3772765
practice rendering. it seems a little two tone. you should make a scale of 1-10.
also draw from reference and try comperative measuring.
as for the hair, dont try to draw each individual line. find larger shapes and values and draw that.

Having some trouble with the light and shadows in the head area, not sure if to put the entire head in shadow or to make the light come from a lower position so only half the head is in shadow

How do you keep ink on the nib

>>3773147
You have an unclear lightsource with random highlights everywhere.
But as it goes, I think it's fine for the style. It looks cute.

>>3773147
the torso is stupidly overrendered compared to the face and clothes. from the light, shouldn't the arm be casting a shadow on her body? overall you have random ambient occlusion too where it's fine in some parts but missing in others which looks bizarre like the skin under the right flap of her coat

would love a new draw thread right about now :3

>>3763385
excellent. the woman in the bottom corner is my favorite

a >1 hour pointless sketch
very inspirational composition, i know.

process of said sketch

>>3773350
>>3773792
Rendered everything some more, more or less done now

inks are done...

>expects the worse

>>3773915
thanks, il save that

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>>3768613
not the same anon but I don't see the issue with eyes, if anything it's more about the lips being too large