/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>3754546
Shark face

>>3754549
but that looks ugly.Is there another way?

>>3754546
>>3754563
>copying
>tracing

Develop your own style.

>>3754563

>>3754549
i endorse this method

>>3754563
overall it depends on the construction of your stylization. basically the dot you are drawing on your anime character to imply the nose is representing the cast shadow of the nose so something should protrude there. most anime style profiles will have a concave implying the bridge of the nose as well as eye socket. the slight S the nose/bridge/forehead makes is an appealing shape to the head. he straight line from nose tip to chin adds structure. basically curve lines are flow, straight lines are structure. if you want to imply lips, you could break up that straight line, and many anime styles do this, it also avoids the side mouth thing a lot of anime profiles have. basically, think about why the style is appealing, what could make your style appealing, and the simplifications you've made in your construction for the sake of style, and what they imply on the actual form.

>>3754573
mouth closed, really tough to catch it was like 1 frame

"/ic/ please tell me what symbols should I copy to pretend I know how to draw"

>>3754621
Pyw so I can laugh at you

>>3754546

>>3754563
What the fuck did you just say about my waifu phonefaggot?

>>3754582
Ghibli does it similarly

>>3754546
literally look at figurines, the anime form is already translated to the real world (a lot of times badly), study it, refine from there

>>3754621
literally everything 2d is symbols, your smugness is retarded

>>3754645
heheheh

>>3754621
Stylized art IS symbol drawing anon, even if your symbols are informed by observation of reality

>>3754703
it actually isn't if you're doing the latter. symbol drawing is drawing without construction. good stylization will always have structure. it's why 2d things can be animated and give a sense of weight, depth, form, etc. there exists pure symbol drawing animation, and it looks like flash puppets or south park, no depth, flat, just shapes aping real life objects with no 3 dimensional construction (symbols).

>>3754576
That looks cute but that style forces you into a sidemouth which only works if she's not emoting in any way. Especially open sidemouths look terrible

>>3754751
Horikoshi does it just fine.

>>3754546
It's not a dot. It's a representation of the nose's tip in perspective. It's part of stylization. Anime is fundamentally 3D. You break 3D whenever convenient, but keep 3D for the most parts. Of course, what I said doesn't apply for every style out there, but for generally most competent styles, yes- anime is mostly 3D. Look at keyframes from animators, analyze animations- how things change with perspective and a change in lighting.

>>3754831
i understand that this is a stylistic choice, and I agree with it. But just for laughs, can someone redline the anatomy on this?

>>3755089
You'd have to completely redraw it, it's 100% cartoony

>>3754546
don't use dot nose there are other options

>>3754645

>>3755089
Small brain + eyes poppd out, teeth incredibly close to the eyes, no nostrils, teeth in different perspective to the overall head, maybe some other shit that I can't notice

>>3754549
I unironically love shark face and its derivatives. Its just fucking adorable. Add some small protrusions for the lips and it looks more real too.
But it bothers me when I do want to do less moemoekawaii style drawings. Dot nose can be used as a simple alternative when not shading. But in side view shark mouth doesnt really get excused the same way.

i did this a few days ago. im not sure if it would fit dot nose characters though

>>3754576
Nigga is this your work? Post blog so I can follow

>>3754546
>dot nose
the nose isn't actually a dot. it's like a shadow to inform the viewer of the position of the nose
this is why it looks like this >>3754549 from a profile view.
if you don't like it, you don't need to go full Conan the Detective on it, you can make the nose less protuding and the jaw align more with the forehead etc

Beg here, is the do the tip of the nose? The place where it curves downwards? The shadow under?

>>3758236
It’s actually a single nostril.

>>3754576
very cute

>>3754751
>>3755089
wow it's almost like it's a cartoon and not supposed to be realistic at all

>>3754549
Ooh ha ha

>>3758243
It's the shadow cast by the bridge of the nose

>>3758236

>>3754576
>muh anatomy
Fuck it. This looks cute as fuck. Picked up.

>>3758509
Nice. Got source?

>>3754645
Asobi Asobase does this with no shame. I really hope it never becomes the next thing.

>>3754546
If you think the nose is a dot AND can't draw it from any other angle that means you don't understand the 3d shape of what you are drawing.
Open sketchfab, go to the anime section, find a good model, turn on matcap and wireframe
study the 3d structure.

>>3758509
better res and/or source?

>>3754576
I dont get it, is this shit really so uncute compared to shark face? Its so fucking easy

>>3758702
it became tumblr-tier

>>3758702
At least add lips

>>3758718
then its no longer true to the OP image.

>>3758717
please be joking

>>3758702
sharkface looks better

>>3758719
he isn't joking, it makes the nose really tumblrish.

It would work better with lips, because you're varying he level of detail between he nose and mouthand it's a bit jarring

>>3755227
I think you have a shark fetish bud

>>3758726
Who doesn't? Shark girls are cute

>>3758734
thats pretty cool.

>>3758702
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>>3758579
>>3758697
got it from /asg/

>>3758702
I find this to be cuter desu

>>3758702
>is this shit really so uncute compared to shark face?
yes, because it emphasizes and accentuates the nose and accentuated noses are not cute

>>3759283
>accentuated noses are not cute
this. detailed noses just gives it a more western look

While we're at it, how the fuck do eastern artists draw hair that flows so well with just using line. I find hair really easy to do if I value block, but using only line is a nightmare and also ends with my characters looking line they have spaghetti wigs.

>>3758579
>>3758697
>>3759023
the source is right there in the image you retards

>>3754645
kek

>>3759283
>>3759288
>that button nose doesn't look cute

retarded

>>3760288
western and bluepilled

>>3758645
Asobi Asobase does a lot of things with no shame, that's why I think it's great.

>>3759400
Think of hair as a collection of ribbons that drape over the head. I think a lot of people screw up when they divide the hair into too many strands.

>>3760461
This is literally what I do, but I still find difficulty in knowing when to clump and divide and also merge ribbons together.

>>3759400 me btw

>>3757443
thats megaman X artistic style

>>3758702
I like this one better tbqh

>>3760598
Yeah I always found the ribbon thing completely useless in practice. But then again I can't draw for shit because I'm retarded.

>>3754715
I'm an art n00b but from what I understand symbol drawing is drawing representations of shit instead of what is actually there. Like a box and a triangle for a house.

>>3758702
I love this though. When I am good at art I want to draw them with pronounced noses like this because noses are cute :3333333

>>3763151
Go for it. Stuff like Dungeon Meshi has a similar pronounced nose and its been positively recieved.

>>3763151
Shit taste

>>3763151
Same

>>3754645
oban star racers?