/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>pitch idea
>doesn't partake in idea

>>3748282
I would do it but I will have to work in 2019. It's too late for me.
Good luck while you're young

>sadlawn challenge
There can only be one sadlawn at a time. The last one was defeated, and a new challenger has yet to partake. Legend has it that when the sadlawn has made in one year, d/ic/ks will be inspired by Just Draw and will be saved from NGMI.

>>3748311
What are the rules of the sadlawn challenge? I'm feeling determined. I want to give it the old college try.

>>3748311
wow, it's only been like 7 months? Feels like he started it in 2017 or something lmao. But then again there's been hundreds of him

This has been an idea for a video ive wanted to make for a while now. I might have to start streaming.

>>3748355
Honestly I was adlibbing, if I can dig for the original threads someone can make it an actual challenge. The original sadlawn tried to grind fundies for an entire year and burned out in I think one month.
https://sadlawn.tumblr.com
>>/ic/thread/3661942#p3663521

>>3748311
>>3748388
>sadlawn
Been here a few years, never heard of the dude, must've been one flash in a pot

"getting good" quickly is a meme. just have a business plan in mind for your art and shoot for that instead.

eg. if you want to do concept art then specify what games/movies, which studios, and then you'll have a reference of what to shoot for and be able to make smaller measurable goals. if you want to draw porn or something then look up what is popular and how people are using social media to make a profit off their art and focus on generating suitable content. just working on your art is stupid because there's a lot more you have to do. (such as generating an audience, making connections, and setting up a backup plan if art doesn't make you enough money to live off of solely) the most important thing is sustainability.

>but the streamer gave up after awhile.

Spoiler alert, virtually everyone will.

Most people fail at posting a drawing a day, period. You're just gonna get a bunch of people high on their new years resolution who will bail on a 10hr/day regimen within the week. I'd recommend setting a more realistic expectation. Even 4hrs/day is more extreme than a vast majority of people will achieve.

>The goal is to stream/draw 10 hours a day everyday.
No one that is a functional adult will be able to do this.

i tried learning to draw for a year and im still not good
https://pineapasketchbook.tumblr.com/tags

>>3748429
Yeah. 8 hour work day + 8 hours of sleep, + 1 hour for food, already at 17 hours + not even 10 hours left in the day.
2 hours is a reasonable goal, 4 if you're pushing it. Otherwise you're probably a neet, in which case you'll never do it anyway.

>>3748434
Don't you mean the opposite? All NEETs are going to make it, and wagecucks aren't.

>>3748436
NEETs tend to be super undisciplined and manage time poorly.
most NEETs I know tell themselves they will do a thing and then just end up playing video games and watching youtube all day instead.

>>3748282
Why is it that everytime on /ic/ the OP does not take upon his own proposal?

>>3748431
If it weren’t for the file name, I’d think it was a picture of a guy comparing his work on the left to some guy called jack liu.
That’s a terrible portfolio on a conceptual level, regardless of the actual work included

>>3748446
This, nobody will ever make it.

>>3748388
I think his goal was "Being decent at art in a year"
If we take the time span of an average artist, were 0 draws stickmen and 100 complete renders, grinding fundies should be %40 of that time

That would amounts to learning absolutely everything you need to learn rigth about anatomy in 5 months, and I mean absolutely everything.
He can barely draw a decen frontal male face, and ONLY frontal male face, in 7 months.

>>3748446
>tfw wish I had all the time in the world like NEETs

>>3748311
Just wanted to say I love that angel
Fucking idiot chavs broke it

>>3748364
Wow really? 7 months? Man I could have been 7 months into my own git gud in one year sadlawn challenge already. Feelsbadman

>>3748446
They wouldn't manage time properly if they were wageslaves either. Having discipline and being a NEET at the same time is where it's at.

>>3748603
i just wanted to put together a bunch of stuff i drew over the past few months, it's not a professional application portfolio because my art isn't there yet

>>3748282
Anyone taking up the challenge?

>>3748285
Let me guess you're like 25

>>3748282
>The goal is to stream/draw 10 hours a day everyday
This is so fucking stupid what the fuck, why not set a goal that's sure to not burn 99.9% of people.

Have any of y'all considered the possibility that knowing how to draw things is rooted in a body of knowledge of how the world works scientifically, and that therefore doing nothing but "drawing" won't teach you enough about anything to know how to actually draw anything

i would do this but i would rather do it in discord rather than twitch streaming

>>3749902
Found the ngmi excuses maker

>>3748282
if the streamer was poloski, that was me, hi. sorry I left anon. i still exist though

>>3748446
NEET here. I could manage my time better, but nonetheless I spend at least 10 hours a day drawing, and the rest studying art books or videos. In the beginning I was less disciplined and would procrastinate, but after setting down some rules (quit /pol/, don't watch too much youtube, etc) I've made steady progress. Also I quit TV and video games years ago

>>3748431
i like the painting in the top right.

>>3750743
Translation: Leech here. I could manage my time better, but nonetheless I have given up 10 hours a day looking for employment to do other things on my parents dime. In the beginning that's what I was doing, but after a while I stopped looking for work and made my own rules. Also I have no money for video games that's why I don't play them.

>>3750799
Wow anon, you didn't even get a single thing right

Also
>not pirating your vidya

>>3750502
wish you didn't quit man I watched you daily, first 2-3 weeks were a blast then your willpower started waning and it all went downhill.

it really is hard to stick to a hardcore schedule.

>>3750502
not >>3750955
but yeah bro the streams were great.

>>3750502
>>3750955
Polosky, could you please offer us this schedule?

>>3748282
>10 hours
>Daily

People have jobs

>>3748427
This. You could set it up so that people stream seperately and a generous flow of content is created. But you can also just join a nice art community and stream with them. Usually there is some people up for that.

So is anyone doing this?
I'd be down to do something similar but I can't do no damn 10 hours a day.

I would join a discord where we just send a sketch we did that day and maybe discuss it for a bit. But I've never made a discord before, but if anyone wants to do that I could look into it and set one up.

Or maybe we all just send a sketch a day to here?

I wish there was something like this for extreme begs that are still super motivated and wanna make it in like 2 years.

>>3754837
If you're so motivated, do it yourself. I'm not even memeing you. Do it.

>>3754781
One stream with multiple artists sounds like a really cool idea desu. Anyone wanna do this with me (some random fag) ?

>>3754842
Honestly I think this could help for motivation and critique (even before internet, art buddies were probably a thing), but yeah...if I can't do it alone I guess NGMI.

>>3754865
In my experience these art groups organized online are flaky at best, everyone has mismatched goals, discipline or are just looking for someone to talk to OH GOD I'M SO LONELY AHHHHHHHH, and the group dissolves in a few weeks/months.

If you want something like this to take off you either have to meet in real life, have a previous relationship or correspondence, or be VERY strict when organizing the group. Be willing to kick the stragglers, but be supportive of the lowliest /beg/ as the weakest link will define the group's success.

>>3754857
I'll do it, what platform does everyone wanna do it on?

>>3750743
>I spend at least 10 hours a day drawing
Doubt.
Get Procrastitracker or Neil Cic's work timer app to get a truly objective measurement of how much you actually work.
Warning: Results for first-time users tend to be depressingly disappointing

I'm a full time student & working two jobs, so the idea of doing 10/hrs a day is out of the questions. Though I like the idea of connecting and getting into a bit of a grind, even if I'm only able to commit a little less. I've tried my hand at streaming which was pretty fun, but it's a little discouraging at the beginning when you don't have an ultra dedicated fanbase yet.
Anyway, if any of you are interested in chatting about this beyond this thread reach me via twitter @ctrlfgoat

>>3755026
Twitch is going to be offering the ability to multi stream in a similar way that mixer and picarto do it some time this year, but Twitch is becoming increasingly retarded with their TOS. An example body painting and girls showing tits on stream is fine however drawing nude or playing games with a little nudity could get you banned, so tread lightly fellow crabs

>>3755026
>>3755070
Good point about Twitch. Fortunately or unfortunately maybe Picarto is the way to go. I’ve seen multi-streams there. I’ll join in myself.

>>3755070
>>3755026
I've never used anything besides twitch. If anyone wants to talk about it we can chat more on discord/ig or something?

Don't you have to pay to be able to multi stream on Picarto?

yes I am in, now what? 10 hours is retarded though

>>3755077
Maybe it can be a daily last man standing, or just a continuously running multi that Sadlawners can come in, grind as long as possible, and then leave, while others stay on. Does Picarto or the others work that way? Where a multi-stream is kept alive as long as there are participants? Or does there have to be a head and the stream closes when the head specifically leaves?

>>3755087
The latter. Picarto's multistream has to be initiated by a premium member.

>>3755091
Hmm ok. I’ve never seen what their prices are like, I’ll see in a sec.

So what platform options are there? Twitch, Picarto, Mixer? I watched a stream recently on “Stream.me”, anyone have any experience with that one?

>>3754894
Thanks, good advice.

>>3750502
>>3750955
>>3751588
Yeah I was watching poloski fairly regularly too and doing studies of some of the same images and then he left us :(

>>3755189
Did Poloski do that picture? That’s pretty good actually. Improvements from the few early times I watched him.

>>3748282
Why not just start sketchbooks on Crimson Daggers, and maybe start a thread in the group dailies section or stream section with links to the group's twitch streams and have people regularly post their best work into the group thread as well as their own sketchbook. Somethin like that.

>>3755191
no it's one of the ones I did, using his supplied images for the group

>>3755200
Ahh ok, well good job on that one anon. Funny theme in it, hehe.

>>3755191
no it was one of the ones I did, using one of his supplied pictures
>edit fug original image was big

>>3755202
My reply:
>>3755201

>10 hours a day
Fuck neets

>>3755223
H8ters gunna h8

Updates?

I've seen people do this a couple of times, though mostly it was various groups doing this on discord.

The longest I've seen it last was 2 months, people just progressively post less and give up.

The reality is there's very little people who have the opportunity to put in a lot of time daily, and those people are not disciplined at all.

good luck to everyone, but you'll all probably fail

tfw wageslave ;_;

So is there a place off site we can start discussing this?

Vannn#3132 on discord

I’m willing to get the premium Picarto account to host the multi-stream if this is gonna happen, and if Picarto turns out to be the right place for this, and if I can figure out how to get ProCreate to broadcast properly into Picarto. Maybe we can rotate out month to month between participants on who is going to pay for the host premium account.

>>3755026
check out piczel if you don't know about it already
basically anthing is allowed on there and multistreaming with two people is free
the site owner is also almost always available to help with things
it just doesn't have the userbase that other platforms have by far

>>3755686
>>3755686
Did you get any replies?

I decided to attempt this, but I need a schedule with blocks of time dedicated to a specific fundamental. What would you guys recommend to improve everything: gesture, value, form, perspective, anatomy (head, neck, torso, shoulders, etc.), landscapes, architecture, etc.?

>>3755756
Are you OP or the organizer? Nothing yet.

Maybe we can take a tally of how many people are interested and from there figure out who is the organizer etc. I’m in.

>>3748282
you won't go from 10 minutes a day - to 10 HOURS just like that. you need to work up to it by drawing diligently every single day.

>>3755161
>>3755161
>>3755161

>>3755847
Learning a bunch of "fundamentals" aimlessly will get you no where. You have to cater your studies to what you want to make. Are you into animation? You don't really need to know how to paint, but you really need to know figure and perspective, and probably animal anatomy.

Start from where you want to end up, then work backwards to figure out a study schedule. Don't spend all your time studying either. You need to be making work, even if the work sucks, especially if it sucks. Bad work informs what you need to study, and those studies inform the good work.

Updates from anyone?

>>3756634
the baby steps approach?

I've tried that numerous times, and while the feeling of being able to put more and more time is great--there's a great distress when you know you could be doing more.

Some people just need to go cold turkey.

>>3757107
https://www.twitch.tv/masterkenbr

I will step up I guess, just opened this twitch channel. Planning on streaming this Thursday and weekly if it takes off, sometime in the evening after work, probably 8pm Eastern.

I will roll up a draw prompt from a generator and try to complete it on stream. Anyone is welcome, but since I don't want to spend time moderating, no Anon chat. Sorry, maybe someone else can set up a discord and you can shit post there.

>>3757844
I'll give yeh a follow mate, God speed.

>>3758030
What would be the etiquette of making a thread for the stream every week? Don't want to hear bitching about so called name fagging

>>3758374
Who knows. Maybe we could start a streams general?
Or post in the shill yourself thread?

I think if you guys want to "multistream" it's way better to use https://hangouts.google.com rather than livestream services. They also have a chat box for people to talk in.

>>3758393
I was thinking about that too actually.

>>3758393
I would be for this, but it seems like no one else wants to join in for whatever reason. I'm being optimistic and taking this as a "If you build it they will come" deal and just show up consistently until people sign on.

we used to do this on a discord a while ago just one night every other week but it didn't last for very long, I think doing that or just drawing on your own is kinda the same thing for most people

>>3758461
i’m definitely interested my dude. Can you give me details on how you’re thinking of approaching this? Are you the twitch guy or the one who suggested google hangouts?

>>3758701
LOL, not the anon you're replying to but Should we just start a quick discord or something?
I know being anonymous is an epic meme but this is pretty hard to plan

>>3758706
Sure, go for it and I’ll join in. I don’t know how to start discords but I can join easily.

>>3758701
Twitch guy

>>3758706
Shit, I will roll this up too.

>>3759111

https://discord.gg/8T7aEJ

A temp server, I will keep the channel or even expand it if it's needed in the future.

so is anyone actually going to stream all day, and try to git gud in 2 years as the OP suggests?

or is everyone just going to be streaming weekly

>>3759141
I have a job so I can't reasonably do 10 hours a day. I can be in the discord everyday, and will be drawing at least three hours daily. Other than that weekly streams is the best I can do.

Bump

>>3748282
Dat discord server

someone start streaming or else

>>3761110
I did this morning and am going back to it later today, when will you?

I just wanted to stop by and personally let each and every one of you know that You Are Going To Make It!

>>3761196
Thanks, if you're around I will be on tonight at 7pm Eastern here >>3757844

>>3761277
Drawing from inaugural stream. See you next week.

>>3761826
Ganbatte anon I like how the font of her thighs have that curve. People should never forget that curve. Fuck yeah thigh pudge leg curve (why the fuck is pudge red lined in chrome?). Should the knees be at the same level tho even though one leg is sticking farther out? Her wrist grapes are pretty.

>>3761876
it should thanks

>>3759131
Expired invite.
Wanna post a new one?

>>3761921
same

From my stream this morning, will work on it some more tomorrow.

>>3761921
>>3761926
Get in here https://discord.gg/sgdtW6

also this guy is streaming https://www.twitch.tv/dynuzard

>>3761826
Blog?

>>3761950
Only really posting in the discord for now

>>3755197
>dave rapoza

fuck no

>>3761933
We have a couple people stepping up to stream, if you want to get in on this, the link is still good

>>3762491
Whats your problem with Dave? He has nothing to do with Crimson Daggers anymore anyway.

But I suspect when Massive Black Cock opens up their forums it will be the final nail in the coffin for Crimson Daggers.

bump for more newcomers

>>3749596
I'll start drawing 10 hours a draw from tomorrow, had this realization today, but I won't be streaming it.

But I'll also be watching 2 hours of tutorials each day tho.

>>3763299
Remember not to spend all your time on studies and produce original work

>draw for 10 hours
>won't stream any of it

Maybe one hour a week?

>>3761932
I improved upon it a little more while streaming this morning, I'll try to work more on it tomorrow morning.

>>3763302
I'll start a blog and post my shitty drawings daily I think, but streaming is a bit...

Anyway, hope you guys all the best, I have 60 days of vacation right now so after that I'll be going back to drawing 1 to 2 hours max per day.

>>3748431
wtf man i really like your drawings

>>3763299
why not stream it? you'll literally be the only one on twitch if you'd do that.

I haven't seen anyone on twitch that would stream more than 6hours/day for more than ~40days.

>>3763688
sae_jin streams 8-10 hours a day

>>3750955
>>3751588
>>3751591
>>3755189
just came back to read bad threads while shitting my guts out at 3 AM lads, but im very flattered that you guys remember my streams n stuff, is nice of you.

hope you all are doing well, and yeah, don't push yourself too hard or you will fuck up your ability to draw for long periods of time. as all these replies can tell you (this is to any anon in this thread), I made a fool of myself trying to attempt this, so i just can't recommend it. pace yourselves, it's a marathon, not a race.

>>3763746
This was really nice to see. Good luck my dude, and thanks for the tip.

So how many of you followed through and are Gitting Gud via streaming?

>>3765529
I did, I'm streaming every day. I'm averaging at 3h/day rn and planning on increasing it.

>>3765559
Nice, are you one of the guys who posted a twitch link here?

>>3765566
No, but I'm in the server that was posted here. I'm >>3763307

>>3765568
Cool! I’ll try to catch your stream

>>3748282
Why does there need to be a streamer for the group to work?

>>3766266
Because there is then proof that the Git Gud Torch is still being carried

>>3763141
I want to get in but the link is expired!

>>3766503
https://discord.gg/4ZtXHS

>>3766446
...people...posting in the group... wouldn't be enough proof..?

>>3766578
...you...can...do both?

>>3766692
Well sure someone can do both but streaming for 10 hours straight every single day is a huge ask and I don't understand how it really relates to the overall goal of having a drawing group or benefits it, which is why I asked why it's needed.

Streaming every day is only useful if you have motivation problems and need a ritual and/or audience to keep you accountable.

>>3766877
and that's good

>>3766735
It doesn't have to be 10 hours, or everyday, a regular stream is good enough.

t.discord maker

>>3748282
>stream/draw 10 hours a day everyday
Hello burnout.
Especially if you're a NEET unaccustomed to work structure

>>3767151
ok

>>3767111
>>3767151

I tried the 10 hours thing yeeears ago and burnt out really hard on it. Drawing on its own is hard enough before you throw streaming into the mix, so GL to those that try to start streaming because of threads like this

Nowadays I do my studies, do a few 2-4 hr long streams each week, and do a sorta weekly assessment of what I'm up to/what's on my plate that I put on my YouTube channel. I'm obviously not Dave level, but I feel like I'm at least moving forward in a positive direction, so feel free to hang out in my stream when I'm live and dm me on discord if you'd like any advice on art, your studies, or life stuff.

https://twitch.tv/roodleypoodleydoodley
https://youtube.com/roodleypoodleydoodley

n g m i

>>3767111
But I'm asking what the stream is for? Is it a critique session or something? Are you just having one person draw and play music as a sort of cyber cafe you all are hanging out at? I just want to know what the stream does for the group.

>>3767723
these kinds of things need a figurehead to lead the charge and motivate everyone. if they get good enough they can do those kinds of leader roles of critting but sometimes the /beg/-tier trashboy has to grow into it

>>3767723
We are planning on making multi-streams focussing on entertainment, so we'd have games to play among ourselves like an quick art telephone (10 min each iteration) and a sort of Pinturillo with the tower girls. As for solo streams, it'd be more focused on talking with the audience (if there were any to be had) and doing art in general. As for what it does for the group: nothing as of now. No one streams regularly but I, so there can't be crit streams.

>>3767746
You're right, I couldn't have put it better really. I feel we are mostly on the same level tho, so a "leader" might arise through sheer effort.

>>3767746
>>3767760
Ah okay, that all makes sense.
I've been kind of wishing lately that I could find a group to do art entertainment like that with. I fucking loved watching stuff like Doodle Doods, Slightly Artistic and the Drawfee channel and I thought it'd be fun to be in something like that. I don't think any of my irl friends are interested in doing stuff like that, none of them stream or really engage online other than to make portfolios on artstation. Of the online friends I have who might be interested, there's a pretty big disparity between our drawing skills and styles that I can't help but thinking would become a problem in handful of ways.
I stream but I'm not really in a position right now to be on mic talking to people so that's an issue. I'm not sure I could be part of this but I am interested.

>>3767318
if you didn't act like such a tool when pushing yourself in every art discord ever you might have more fans. is it really hard to just be genuine or to not be an asshat

>>3767839
Weird logic. I have discords I'm more active in than others just like anyone else. If you wanna chat my DMs are wide open.

>>3767760
Been trying to get the ipad to stream procreate and look presentable but it looks so far that without another laptop or something it just isn’t possible. I guess I’ll just have to settle for a non-fancy stream for now. Feelsbadman!

>>3748282
I'm in

>>3768546
"Weird logic"
you come off as an asshole. no logic needed

>>3768696
need an invite?

>>3769090
You're a stinky penis, nerd

10 hours? oh no way, but I do stream every monday,wednesday and friday for 1~4 hours every week.
I don't waste a lot of time cleaning up or using references and stuff tou

>>3770599
I'm the most active streamer and only stream 4h a day in the mornings. OP sucks dick.

>>3770603
?

>>3748282
There was a stream group on ic years ago luke 2015 and died in 3 months. Your group will follow the same fate.

>>3770634
this. flashes of inspiration die just as quick as they came up

>>3770634
>>3770653
ok

>>3770634

>>3748311
that angel looks just like Agatha...

>>3756639
good post

>>3770634
People said LAS wouldn't last 3 months and it just had its 3 year anniversary. It doesn't matter what past groups and ideas failed, just make sure your one doesn't.

>>3756639
spot on

>>3770832
LAS lasted because it was a fresh idea with an actual web dev.

Stream group/Skype Groups/Discords that I was in years ago died because people just get bored of it. Not unless you proactively make this some of public general so that the hosting does not die (the main issue here).

>>3770832
for every LAS theres 100 failed study groups so

>>3770843
>>3770850
ok

>>3770889
>replying ok instead of gitting gud
ok

>>3770843
>>3770832
>>3770850
Rather than just saying IT DOESN'T WORK
why doesn't it work? why do study groups fail so tremendously?

How can we make a group that WILL succeed?

>>3770850
>It doesn't matter what past groups and ideas failed, just make sure your one doesn't

>>3771097
No no, reactionaries don't focus on solutions. They just want to make sure you never try to do anything with your life. Misery loves company.

>>3771256
>Misery loves company
I see you suck (((dick)))

Good company breeds good results, bad company breads bad results. Being an individualist is a bad thing when you consider that the top people in the industry catter together so to mutually grow. That's why Massive Black is a thing, that's why THU and Crimson Daggers are things. I've seen this a lot in the West in general, but people are put in bad groups of people without a chance to seek something better, so they tend to go towards individualism. Just check how united the Polish (ik it's in the west) art and games communities are and you'll see what I mean. They value themselves, their culture and their time, they catter together to improve and leave those who don't behind. Not only Poland, Japan is also like that, they catter together and are stronger when going towards a common goal. A tried and true military tactic is keeping people in small divisions so they bond with one another and overcome challenges together, it's been like that since the Romans and their Contubernia (parties of ten Decani). But you wouldn't know, all the company you ever had were crabs.

Good art and dedicated people breed good art and dedication. Get good.

>>3771097
most people who make up these groups are undisciplined children who want to be spoon fed everything, more is put into the socialization aspect of these groups and less into actual work.

I think that's one of the reasons, the only way something like what OP suggests to happen is if you'd get a couple of people (I'd say at least 3+) who would seriously be dedicated and would in essence 'lead the charge'. It's how crimson daggers thing started, it's how CA started, etc.

I don't see that happening, i've only been on ic for like 3 years but in all this time I haven't seen a single person who would put in the time OP suggests for more than ~1-3months before quitting.

>>3771422
Underrated

>>3771366
>>3771422
>Not OP but the guy who created the discord.

Look, we've barely just started, literally a week if not less. I plan to be here for the long haul and maintain the group for at long as it needs to take off, we've got regular streamers, myself included.

We're also working with the dynamic sketch group so there's at least a way non discord people can participate.

Anybody is interested in getting in on this project can start there.

>>3770982
wut

>>3771422
>most people who make up these groups are undisciplined children who want to be spoon fed everything, more is put into the socialization aspect of these groups and less into actual work.

not even close

>been on ic for like 3 years

stay a crab

Yo pass a discord invite

>>3771818
https://discord.gg/4BwTtf

>>3772008
Keeps expiring

>>3772008
learn how to make a longer invite you fucking retard, jesus christ, what good do you get from these 10 minute invite links?

I made a single use invite on purpose :^)

Sorry, I thought it was just a single chap.

https://discord.gg/MHtVhP

>>3771097
Most groups made on /ic/ for the years I've been here fail because the admin either
1. doesn't draw
2. draws once a week and plays games the rest
3. makes the group and then abandons at random
4. internal drama caused by the admin promoting the wrong person, usually a very chatty girl who is friendly with everyone.
5. The admin doesn't give a shit on improving and expanding the group. Usually the members end up expanding the group for him.
6. Usually the group has nothing to offer in terms of resources. If I was running things I'd share stuff I buy with the select few who show they want to get better (so lurkers don't run off with my shit).
7. The admin does not log in everyday
8. You notice by now a lot of the problems stems from the leader of the group being incompetent.
9. This is /ic/, most people here are ngmi.
10. Eventually someone gets their feelings hurt in the group from something someone said and you know how that goes. Splitting the morale of the users and dividing them. Making them leave to join the crybabies group instead and then the crybaby just quits art all together.

>>3772385
Can't control 9 or 10 but for now I haven't committed any of these sins.

I'll have to work on something for 6.

>>3772385
Hahahahahaha man that was hilarious, because it’s all true. It’s true for real life too

>>3772385
we should set up a democratic study group where admins are decided by a vote every month
they must campaign their policies of improving the group

>>3772385
Screencapping, this is surprisingly accurate to my experience with anon groups not just in /ic/ but other board projects too.

>>3772957
Hahahahahhahahah yea man hahahah

>>3763746


If you want to be a professional/work at a gaming studio you have to be drawing 8 hours a day.

Professionals:
>Drew all their lives
>that art kid growing up
>went to art school where they drew intensively, 8-10 hour days.
>drawing 8+ hours at work everyday.

you:
probably draw a 3-5 hours a day aimlessly/for fun, a study here and there, barely any progress as the years go by. Don't expect anything.

Everything in life that's worth a damn is paid with pain and sacrifice.

>>3774644
Great post, especially that last line.

>>3774644
i know someone who only drew about ~3hours/day on average for around 2.5 years and now they are good enough to freelance and make a decent living with art. no prior experience or any indications of talent.

the vast majority of the time they would listen to music/podcasts, but would try their best to improve.

there are people who half ass it and get to a pretty good level.

>>3770802
I've seen that girl somewhere, source?

>>3774644

post work or bust

>>3776437
I forget her username but she does asmr