/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>3720927
Rejected
It's epitome of kitsch. It has no soul.

>>3720926
Tell me this isn't your work OP

>>3720926
Could you post your work first so we know who it's coming from? You know, to see if you're reputable or not.

>>3720930
I won't tell you anything
Please feel free to share your art
I will give a constructive criticism and formal analysis

>>3720934
If this is your work you have no business giving critique.

>>3720933
I can't. Don't you guys want to get a taste of real criticism instead if lame ignorance you get out of here?

>>3720936
It's about knowledge and understanding. Not taste or technique. You are getting it all wrong.

You can get good criticism from somebody who makes art that you don't like. I am art student. You will get good criticism from me.

>>3720943
i can study japanese but that doesn't mean i can speak it. fuck off you absolute cretin of a troglodyte.

>>3720943
Just going to art school is the same as just going to school for “business”.
It’s a fucking sham and worthless when it comes down to it.
Well, I guess it would help you get a job, which has nothing to do with art.
Troll.
Sage and hide

>>3720943
>openly bragging about getting scammed
yikes

Here's my art, can i get a critique?

>>3721054
It's too kitschy. It's an image of a sexy girl with no depth of meaning. How about Brian's art? Anyone else?

>>3720926

>>3720943
>I am art student. You will get good criticism from me.
those things don't necessarily coincide. in fact, if you are still a student, you might be full of shit. as a relatively fresh graduate, i would respect it, but remembering my time as a student, there are a lot of shit concepts you need to get out of your system. your basis of judgement might be flawed by intermediate understanding, half-hearted comprehension and a patchy knowledge of techniques and art history.
in order to tell whether you are legit at all, you'd need to give at least some sort of hint why your assessment is credible at all.

>>3721070
This is cool.

>>3721067
>offers to critique
>literally describes image and offers no means of improvement
Did you hear your teacher use the word "kitschy" and now you're using it everywhere?

>>3721100
not OP, but the idea behind "kitsch" is a bit more complex than that. kitsch is defined on cultural habits and traditions. for instance, a Buddha statue made of plastic and sold as a cheap cast in interior design shops all around the world (including IKEA) can be considered kitsch, as it clearly defaced the original intent by mass production and washing down the symbolism. So, kitsch has a lot to do with inflationary use and defacing something that once was meaningful or original.

In this case >>3721054, the "kitsch" part can arguably be the technique, the spray-can digital brush effect that is sort of evenly distributed on the picture. a little to even, lacking defined areas, along with the stiff posture, the expressionless face, the one covered eye, the bad use of black for the darker areas instead of providing contrast by means of complementary colors and the theme in general. "it's another one of these fanart attempts" is the kitsch moment here.

>>3721070
The drawing in charcoal of a house like structure depicts the emptiness and futility of the mundane in today's increasingly unequal society. The primitive and rudimentary nature of the depicted structure made of concrete and steel in contrasts the sophistication of technology in modernity. This is the perspective of the poor and the weak in today's world who are seeing no ends to their displacement in society by machine and decline into irrelevance and poverty. In line with realism the artist aims to give voice to the struggling people who may have lived in such barren homes of which the the concrete structure reminds.

The problem with this piece is that it does not indicate a wall to which the structure belongs or delineate the ground to infer perspective with. The structure seems to half float in empty space. The introduction or suggestion of a bigger figure nearby as well as a strong shadow might make the drawing more dynamic.

It's not the strongest drawing; however it has charms and merits of a sincere drawing

>>3720926
Nice try cumbuns we know it's you

Crude photo of my work

>>3720936
this, look at that tire ffs

>>3721193
I can't really give a full length criticism on a half finished drawing but I will say I like the freshness of the lines and I can see the aesthetics the artist is going for. All I can suggest is that the artist should use different types of pencil to get different types of texture, glossiness and darkness/lightness (4B~2H) and even use colored pencil as one step further. The artist got the formula down to make a generic pretty face but art is more than a formula. It needs strong emotions and passionate soul. The artist needs to push the pretty appearance into the exotic and absolute divine beauty. This is only possible by experimenting with color and form.

>>3721194
This is not as fresh and more static but in some ways it shows more structure and more mature face of a woman. I think the artist is using some variety of pencils but they need to be applied more gently in some parts while being more direct and hard in other parts to create more discernible lines that can be read with clarity, as well as extending dynamic range (aka contrast) to give both more luminous quality as well as depth and weight.

Fuck you op.

>>3721067
You don't even know what Kitsch means, right?

>>3721199
>>3721201
Fenks op

>>3721190
You're not equipped to critique anyone if this is the best you can do.

>tfw OP is using /ic/ to do his peer art review project because he couldn't find anyone in his class to pair up with

>>3721215
Everyone has a right to critique if it's a good critique

>>3721054
some of your forms are pretty spot on anon. things like the bolts on her shoulders and the ridges in her suit have a real form and 3D effect to them and look great. but her face, neck, and hair, all lack structure i think? they feel very off. I get that you're trying to blend anime with more realistic aspects but your execution feels very weird and kind of flat, i cant say exactly how. i think the effect you want to go for is something more like samuelyounart (pic attached)
maybe try using a brush with a higher opacity and sharper edges?

pic related is a painting i did of a friend. it feels off, why does he look drunk

>>3721393
Blog?

>>3721414
Samuel Youn.

>>3721394
Back to tumblr fag. We dont welcome your kind here.

>>3721419
red nose master race

>>3721414
try reading more than 2 words in his post speedreader

>>3721394
First off this looks really nice, gj anon. I think he looks off because of two things. His iris's and his eyebrows. The Iris is much larger than it would be normally, but isn't lowered to account for it's size. This in combination with his high eyebrows makes him look like he's raising his eyebrows but not his eyelids.
I drew over it to try and show what I mean(sorry for low quality it was on my phone with my finger).

I think we should ignore op, because his mediocre advice doesn't deserve an "application". Ill give you real art critique without being condescending.

>>3721431
Good idea desu. Take notes 'art student'.

>>3721431
>>3721437
Umm yeah compare the depth of info between your "critique" and mine. My criticism is not mediocre. It's good criticism.

>>3721393
Wtf are you talking about?

>>3721394
It's a nice illustration. I still can't fully critique it because it's not fine art but a pretty picture.

>>3721430
The eye rendering looks dead in your example. It's way too lifeless

>>3721443
You critique as if you're writing some high school art report. Your only intention is to jack off your own ego, not to actually help people and give them usable advice. You'll "only give criticism if the art work is good"? Who the fuck do you think you are? Get the fuck off this board right now.

>>3721448
Its not rendered at all you dunce. Its two black cirlces meant to illustrate my point.

>>3721452
Yes I only write criticism on art that is good. That's how I was taught at school.

I can give brief comments but not full length writing on art that is not as good.

>>3721460
Then why'd you critique the rendering of the eyes on my draw over?

>>3721454
But you didn't illustrate your point. You could have put down a better shape but you didnt. It just looks lifeless to me.

Even if you don't make a full rendering you can make a shape that is alive and full of spirit

>>3721464
That was not an essay long critique. It was just like 1 or 2 sentences. I can give that.

This thread is for long indepth criticism.

>>3721460
So you can't help someone who isn't "good"? Are they not entitled to your masterful full-length writings? Why do you feel like a long wall of text is anymore useful than a few brief comments - surely it's the content of the critique that counts, right? I know for sure I would much rather have a short, concise and useful critique over one that rambles on and on trying to describe what "the artist" has done in their work. They know what they did, and they don't give a shit - they fucking made the thing. What you should be trying to do is actually help them, you know, by properly critiquing their work and teaching them something in the process.

>>3721467
Its ok op. This is my thread now, and I'll make sure to critique what you can't. And I'll do it nicely.

>>3721430
its okay, you got your point across really well! thanks a ton anon i didnt realize making the iris so huge had such a drastic change on the face :)
>>3721446
sorry, let me try to condense my points.

-try to use a higher opacity brush with a sharper edge (hardness value usually affects edge sharpness) this should help with the blurriness.
-try to focus on the forms more. there's a bit of symbol drawing i think. the way the light falls on only the edges of the face is quite unnatural and restricted purely to the edges. the sharpness of the chin is also a little too exaggerated. and the lack of strands of hair makes her hair look a bit like sonic's.

>>3721472
I am trying to give insights into the artist's work. It's not just about helping. There is a limit to that. You are so close and narrow minded that you don't understand what I am trying to do here.

If you wanna help and give casual advice go somewhere else.

It's not that they are entitled ot not entitled to my "masterful" criticism per your sarcasm

It's that there is nothing to write about. Literally just that.

I don't want to deal with your negativity so please go somewhere else.

I am looking for more art to look at and critique.

>>3721492

What kind of moron puts this much time and effort into crtiquing. Youre not getting payed. Nobody appreciates your long. Overly long sentences. Just fuck.

>>3721492
Shhh. I run this thread now bud. No more "crit" from you.

>>3721494
I am trying to practice. That's just all I am trying to do. It's for practice

A win win situation

>>3721472
Seriously. Yourr being weird.

>>3721499

Practice pretending to kno wut your talking about?

>>3721497
Whatever. Do your little thing. Write your crit. Cute.

You can't do as good of a job in art criticism as I can. Remember that.

>>3721501
I do know what I am talking about. Do you?

>>3721504
Post work. I dont want ur crit if u cant back up ur pounts

>>3721504
Op:gives critique
Thread: this critique is not helpful
Op: yes it is. I know more than you

>>3721196
Maybe she's just really fat and the tire is bent?

>>3721506

I think op just necked herself.

>>3721175
it's actually a plain old outdoor charcoal-grill.
but thanks for the thorough social analysis anyway

>>3721677
Lo fucking l.

Hahahaha.
Too damn funny.
Just summed up this thread and the state of “art” today in general.
Thank you sir.

>>3721677
Based

>>3721677
Based

>>3720943
>I paid tens of thousands to learn how to draw poorly but pretend I know what I'm doing.
No thank you

>>3720943
t. art student
i can see you went to the kind of art school that likes to sell "questions" instead of selling technique/fundies/styles

sorry to tell you this OP but you're i like to asks questions art diploma does not make you better at critique
it only makes you seem way deep in up your own ass
but hey atleast you spin a artsy fartsy
sentence together that will make the beg tier art hoes like you

>>3721902
I am learning how to make art with a soul

Yes thank you

You guys obsess with kitschy illustrational drawings

No thank you

>>3721190 is >>3722229's work LMAO

>>3722235
I don't get what's so funny
My art is good
I want more art to critique

This has to be bait. I don't believe someone can be such a braindead retard.

>>3720926
Hey OP.
I am for Norway.
Please excuse my bad English.
Please critiques mine paintings.

>>3722268
It's interesting how the painting is done horizontally instead of vertically in which case the figures would be standing up. The painting is a male fantasy of man and woman in a dreamlike surrealist space where the man is floating over the woman. Her facial and bodily features are more defined than the male counterparts some of which are blurred or censored into whispy forms of a nebulae. The nebulaic form also appears as clothing and can be understood as birthplace (of stars). The man, according to male point of view, is encroaching the woman, who is warming up to his warm light. Her head in cool light is the last place to warm up to his light. This is hard to read because the man is equidistant to the woman. Im fact it would be better setup for the man to be diagonally positioned so that his feet would be closer to her feet and his head farther from her head. Although the male viewpoint (probably white male) of a nude female can be problematic for some viewers, I must applaud the mastery of painting technique and anatomical knowledge, as well as depth of meaning and symbology.

>>3722334
I would like to add that the male is depicted from a dominant and more elevated position from the female who is more passive.

I have problem with this because I don't believe in male dominance.

>>3720926
Heya OP.
Pleeza scoozaa mi angelosa, imma hail
flluum Italiano.
Pleeza geeve mi suma instructiones anda aya critique-ah.
Oh MAMA MIA!

>>3722334
>>3722340
that's not a critique that's just describing the painting.

>>3722514
Are you Mario from the Super Mario

>>3722514
im brian and this is offensive

>>3722520
he's baiting so hard dude, why do u feel the need to go in for a bite

>>3722521
Holy a meatballsa!
I coulda cryaa da river of da fettuccine!

>>3722813
WOAH ITS MARIO FROM THE SUPER MARIO EVERYONE GATHER ROUND

>>3722813
>>3722819
wow im a big fan

>>3722514
Lmaooo
>>3722268
Also this is Odd Nerdrums painting

Holy fugg op you're delusional, I'd bet you're from UK, I saw works of my acquaintance and her friends from there and they were on similar level while taking meme classes and with similar mindset not having slightest idea wtf they are doing

>>3720926
Pls critique this

>>3723252
Oops sry for sideways hehe

>>3721419
haha, yeah

>>3721175
Fucking nerds OUT. You know nothing.

>>3723252
>>3723253
Rejected. It's not art

>>3723641
That's where you're wrong you fool.

A portrait I done recently of my dog.

>>3723899
It's kitschy and illustrational
I can't write on it

>>3720926
Hey OP, which please give me a real critique on this one and the next one.
Which one is the best?

>>3724234
Or this one?
Which should I show if I go to a gallery?

>>3724234
>>3724235
Are these not works by willem de kooning?

>>3721190
lol what art school do you go to

>>3724175
Should I at least keep trying ?
How do I avoid being kitschy?

>>3724539
Step 1: Look at his art
Step 2: Look at his "critique"
Step 3: Figure it out

>>3723641
this one really showcases what you are on about. typical art student brainlet. of course it is art. what else would it be? is it a diagram? is it a table of chemical elements? is it a shopping list? no, for fucks sake, it's a fucking drawing. any drawing in that fashion is art. whether it's good or bad, is another question. but really, nothing could show us in a better way how fucking up your own ass you are. You're Chunbun, right?

>>3721908
fucking this.

>>3721175
this is the sort of bullshit talk you typically see art students in the making shit out: it's empty rants, over-analytic and completely off in doing so. everything seems to be "socio-political" in some way. it just has to be a social criticism of some sorts. this is also what curators do nowadays to make art work fit their agenda. you've jumped the bandwagon, Chuncuck. despite your sugary compliments you've made, i dismiss your critique. i generally don't listen to people who are full of shit and can't paint themselves. rants like yours go right in the trash in my mind.

>>3721199
>darkness/lightness (4B~2H)
listen everyone, the connoisseur is speaking!
can you tell us the brand and production year of these vintage pencils? talk a bit about the sumptuous paper type?

I remember I would totally fucking trash people at uni that were talking bullshit like you, know-nothings who think by simply signing up for uni, their IQ is breaking all borders and they can educate anyone about art in their community. you are the cancer. art students of your kind, are t. cancer. off yourself. better get a job applications for McDonalds right away.

define the word kitsch in your own words, you moron. you seem to know all about it. lecture us. what is kitsch?

>>3721190
pic related

>>3721190
Photo of my crude work*

>>3724235
Oh well, you caught me trying to trick you.
I PLEAD GUILTY!
I am curious though, which one, in your opinion is better and why?
The first or the last one?

>>3724539
You need to stop painting from center 90 degree angle. For a painting of a flat portrait of a subject facing the viewer head on, there needs to be more intensity of light for part of the subject that's closer to the viewer and a receding intensity for part of the subject that's farther away. It's like a staircase with bands of highlight, shadow, highlight

You need to be able to visualize the form from a slightly altered angle, so the composition is dynamic instead of being stiff.

Also learn to use more harmonious and dynamic colors instead of using colors that are unpleasant and kitschy. Some color choices are more authentic and original than others. Even simply changing the background can change the mood and appearance of the painting completely.

>>3724790
I think second one is better

>>3721190
>>3720943
>>3720926
>some boomer dad is paying tens of thousands so his effeminate son can and make this

>>3725277
Cheers mate, I must have gotten carried away because my dog is so fluffy and I lost the forms.

>>3720929
if you consider that essay-length, you must be your own student

>>3725614
Cheers

>>3725292
It's not fine art. I like what you are trying to do. If it's more detailed and finely rendered to convey a smoothness of flesh it would be better.