/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>3715752
That's literally the equivalent of Batman vs Superman, i consider Gi as Batman.

>>3715761
Proko even has Henry Caville’s hairline lmao

>>3715752
now that is done who do you think will come next in these video
he said 12 artists right?

>>3715780
I think he announced them in order isn't it?

>>3715752
You heard it here first folks, the secret to gitting gud is:
1: Just draw whatever you want all the time
2: When you get stuck, do studies then go back to drawing what you want
Looks like both the JustDraw fags and the study fags were right.

>>3715752
What should we do against PC?

>>3715752
Lmao, the op pic looks like KJG is roasting him for that kangaroo drawing

>>3715783
eh I think he rate observation and visualize first

>>3715783
Not true, never start with art if you don't have an audience, otherwise you will enter a dark path of depression and emptiness.

>>3715752
>kangaroo
the man
the meme
the legend

>>3715785

draw redpilled stuff

>>3715785
become a master artist

>>3715752

We owe a lot to Proko.

Who is this deplorable Asian? His drawings look like poor tracings. Flat and dead. You can say "intricate", but nevertheless. Is he considered a legend here?

>>3715812
Shut the fuck up, you absolute boomer.

I saw him in other interview where he said he doesn't think he is great, the he just became great at deceiving people, now in this interview, when he draw in public, he noticed that he made 3 mistakes and laugh, nobody saw that but him and it is still impressive, i guess he just shoved off his mistakes and keeps drawing.

>>3715812
Maybe is bait, but have you tried to draw something from imagination? anything without guide lines?

>>3715802
>>3715804
Imagine this world becoming like some religious shit hole where we only could trade our drawings underground? like the middle ages, i really hope the most laid back countries like japan keep their censorship at minimum.

Also how big is PC culture? is it really big? like problematically big? or it is just loud?

>>3715833
trump and brexit just happened. how delusional do you have to be to see it taking over the world.

>>3715833
It's very loud in that the majority of mainstream media won't stop pushing it down people's throats in everything we consume

>>3715752
You now the real secret guys

>>3715829
Not a bait. Can you honestly opine that his art is great / amazing / interesting / whatever?

It's so weird having an alpha asian male sitting besides an ultra beta white man. It's usually the opposite

If KGJ has a hot eastern european girlfriend vs whatever Proko married to, then I'm dying

>>3715859

>>3715866
wow proko has nice ass

>>3715847
Very intricate use of black and white, crazy perspectives, sense of humor and the amazement of knowing he does it from imagination.

>>3715859

Proko's wife is hot tho

post proko wife now

>>3715866
>juicy butt

>>3715895

>>3715885
So, as far as I understand, basically you like it because (1) it (appears) "intricate" and (2) you have additional "knowing that he does it from imagination." Not because the art is good. And (1) and (2) can't help it to be good, apparently.

So basically in summary a modern day Jesus with Gods eye has natural born talent, drew way more than anyone in the world, and had very supportive people helping him stroke his ego (sort of like Jesus). And the advice is to draw more.

>>3715902
?
Those are the reasons his art is good.

>dude just observe lmao

>>3715904
inaccurate, watch it again without the cynicism

>>3715920
>dude just look at it and draw it
I'm convinced the people that can draw just say this bullshit cause they don't care. Why should they? The less competition for them the better.

>>3715904
>drew way more than anyone in the world
that's debatable he still in his early 40 and not draw as intensively as he used to

>>3715780
I hope he has Steve Huston interview

>>3715933
>drew way more than anyone in the world
And still didn't get it.

>>3715940
Post artwork

>>3715810
yeah especially me since I pirated his stuff

>>3715940
Don't post your work because I know it's shit compared to his. You just can't compete.

>>3715812
>>3715847
>>3715902
>>3715940
stupid boomer Never Gonna Make It

>>3715752
In one single video Proko managed to redeem himself.
I'm impressed.

>>3715970
Next generation of artist will fuck us up with digital art, wait and see.

>>3715785
>What should we do against PC?
Draw traditional. That's the only way we can overcome art drawn on the PC with digital sterile art programs.

KJG is a very good artist, but there's is something fake about his art. I tried to copy his drawings to understand a bit of his style, but after a while it started to few very hollow. I don't know if someone else feel's the same.

>>3715983
*fell very hollow

>>3715981
kek

>>3715981

bluepilled as fuck

>>3715833
>Also how big is PC culture? is it really big? like problematically big? or it is just loud?
It's just mostly loud. Usually you can get away with drawing whatever you want until some pedantic cunt complains. Platforms only care about money. They couldn't care less about the shit you draw as long as it doesn't break the laws.

>>3715983
>imagine being this jealous

>>3715833
>like the middle ages
they banned drawing in middle age?
I though they're just too poor to support artist

>>3715990
You can draw anything you want but you’ll have problems if you get anywhere big

SJWs love to point “problematic” artists. If you don’t have any “diversity” in your portafolio you’ll get called out

>>3715993
>If you don’t have any “diversity” in your portafolio you’ll get called out

That's why i don't mind tumblr etc.

>>3715993
can you name a few big artists that got called out by SJWs but kept doing what they were doing anyway?

>>3715991
Not jealous anon. He draws a lot better than me, that's for sure. But I don't know man, something in his drawings bug me a lot. I keep thinking about pic related, how it is kinda vulgar and evil, but not in an appealing way. A guy like Junji Ito draws some crazy evil stuff, but his art has that humanity inside it. KJG stuff appears to be more style than substance, and somewhat inhumane in what it depicts.

>>3715993
>SJWs love to point “problematic” artists. If you don’t have any “diversity” in your portafolio you’ll get called out
they only do that if you pander to them in the first place and they become the main audience
>>3716002
> vulgar and evil
I can't see vulgar but not evil
why the heck is it evil
to realistic and detail for your smooth skin animu aesthetic?

>>3716004
*can

>>3716002
Well, i kindly agree with you, he draws a lot of porn and cannibalism, but that's what people want to see. i stated before that you should only start art if you have an audience. Watch the history big art always were involved with politics of big movements. You could of course draw all for yourself, as a hobbiest, but will end up like van Gogh, literally want to kill yourself because of depression. Art is a double edged sword.

>>3716008
Art is a mirror of civilization, if you don't like the current social state civilization, art will depress you as well(which in our age and time is digital art, perfectionism, scandalism).

>>3715993
>if you get anywhere big
That's the problem. The bigger the platform the more people see the work, and the more likely some asshole is gonna complain about it. Like I said, platforms care only about money, but keeping their images intact ensures them more accessibility, and therefore, more money.

I remember some documentary about what happened during the Issue 300 of Spiderman. Basically it became one of the best-selling comics of all time, but since so many people were looking at it, Todd McFarlane couln't draw much interesting stuff anymore due to fears of offending somebody, so they toned down everything afterwards.

It sucks, but I guess that's the nature of entertainment.

>>3716008
Edit: Art is a mirror of civilization, if you don't like the current social state civilization, art will depress you as well(which in our age and time is digital art, perfectionism, scandalism).

>>3716002
I kinda feel the same way, i mean, i feel like he likes something and then draws it, or just draw what he sees and tweek it a little, as opposed as getting inspired by a book or some experience. Something like that

>>3715998
A few months ago Cuong Nguyen had to clarify he does paint dark skinned people because he apparently was receiving mails claiming he was a racist

>>3716017
>>That's the problem. The bigger the platform the more people see the work, and the more likely some asshole is gonna complain about it
That’s kinda obvious and unavoidable, but the leftist complaining can turn into a moder witch hunt

Your career as an artist (and life) is safer by pissing in a jar and putting a crucifix inside it than failing to include “diversity “ or social justice in your work

>>3716002
Hahhahah. I actually prefer western stuff, I don't have a problem with this level of detail, that's the best thing about KJG. I think what I want to say is, his art has a pathologic detachment from humanity. In a way, I think KJG expresses his hatred for other people with his drawings. Even the girls he draws are just empty vessels that he poses like dolls, all of them with their dead expressions.

>>3716008
But I think KJG audience only cares about his technical skills, not his themes. His erotic drawings are not that erotic, and his cannibalism drawings do not inspire terror. He draws everything as a matter of fact, without any emotion whatsoever. People here complain about those human xerox machines copying celebrity portraits, but I think do something like that about what he draws. He doesn't infuse emotion in what he draws, he just draws.

>>3716023
Yeah, exactly. It's strange because his style is not really very realistic. He is primarily a cartoonist. But his cartoons don't have that expressive energy, they are very subdued.

>>3716035
Ops, the first response was meant to >>3716004

>>3716035
I actually like the apathetic atmosphere of his drawing
feel like he capture a picture of people from a normal day life minding their own problem with a bit stylist touch
not standing posing in a dramatic way
to each his own maybe

>>3715752
>Kim Jung Gi draws this sexist filth
no wonder he's so popular in this incel board
he even admits his art is misogynistic

why do people like him???

>>3716017
>>3716032
The problem is, people (and most artists) are damn afraid of everything. If a mob goes after your art, the first thing you have to do is thank the heavens (or whatever deity you worship, or not) that you have enough popularity to be a target. It's inevitable. It's the nature of the game, if you want to get big, if you want money and success, you will make a lot of people jealous of you. You need to think about this kind of thing like a tax you have to pay for your fame. How do you deal with it is the interesting part.

Most people get terrified about being mobbed on twitter and they lose their cool. Never lose your cool, you need to think ahead and control your emotions. I recommend you guys read the 48 laws of power, and other books like that. A lot of people that achieve fame lose everything after a while, and that's because they never studied how to deal with all kinds of hazards that befall famous and rich people. They share secrets, they trust people (never trust anyone, you never know their intentions, always protect yourself), they sign contracts under pressure, etc. And, they think twitter is a nice place to make friends. It's not. It's a tool that you need to use to your own benefit. Study what other charismatic people did before you, study the greats, Napoleon, Trump, Julius Caesar. Study what they did right, what they did wrong, and you will reach the heavens.

KJG is like a red flag for /ic/ crabs.
He's asian, some of his stuff is "anime inspired", there's probably WEEKS if not MONTHS of footage of him drawing without tracing, photobashing or grinding loomis and he says "just draw what you want lmao".
On one hand of the spectrum you got KJG and on the other hand, where the bitter crabs live you got kr0npr1nz who actually doesn't bother them because he's a proven fraud, thus putting their crab mind at ease with "heh, sure thing buddy, everyone traces and cheats, nobody can be this good, it's normal".

>>3716049
too obvious there anon

>>3716055
yeah, it's way too obvious he's a misogynist.
misogyny is a serious issue, anon

>>3716052
>The problem is, people (and most artists) are damn afraid of everything
Honestly this. Ever since 2014/2015 dudes on the internet have been paranoid as fuck that the whole internet is out to get them.
Just play it smart.
Make your old online profiles private. If you have to vent out inflammatory shit say it on places like 4chan where you remain anonymous. Delete shit that's obviously gonna get you in trouble.

Please just look at Robert Kirkman. His comic had an asian character having their head bashed to pieces and his comics' popularity skyrocketed for it. Years later he killed 12 characters of all races by having their decapitated heads placed on pikes. He only got more popular for it. You can draw offensive art. Just contextualize it. Give it reason. There's a market for it.

>>3716047
Hey, I agree with you. The problem I have with his art is not exactly the apathetic atmosphere. It gives a bit of an artist flair to his work. If a guy like Jim Lee tried to draw the same scene, the result would be something ridiculous. And I like Jim Lee.

One think about KJG I like is that his style is not cheesy. Maybe that drawing with the girl with the sniper rifle, that drawing is ridiculous. But his other stuff, even his superheroes, they have a seriousness that gets away from the vulgarity of most pop culture. His art is something that could be put inside a museum.(And what I said is not trying to denigrate comics or manga, I like and read both, but they lack that something that makes art transcend the banal.)

Maybe what I think is lacking in his art is a sense of weight. His drawings are too floaty. Like this picture >>3716002 , it lacks a suggestion that what we are seeing is abhorrent, but at the same time, completely normal for those people. This is what I think is the ultimate downfall of KJG. He needs to keep exploring his art, trying to take his themes further. But he stagnated a long time ago. I don't think he will grow anymore. And that is because he is inside his comfort zone. He needs to experience in his art other forms of emotion beyond apathy and hatred.

>>3716061
>Please just look at Robert Kirkman.
He also got hate for having a black female character in The Walking Dead raped in the comic, so he had to have the male MC from his Invincible series raped by a female villain as "compensation".
Michonne's rape is considered one of the worst moments Kirkman has ever written, meanwhile Mark's rape is widely mocked for presenting female-on-male rape as serious.

>>3716075
>His drawings are too floaty.
come to think of it
since he is too good and just draw he probably didn't pay much time for carefully composition or plan grand effect of his work

>>3716061
Nice example. I think what people on twitter don't understand is that they shouldn't air their grievances in a public platform. Even in private I think complaining is not a good habit. Problems always existed, always will and this modern witch-hunt is not something new. As they say, only the last one in a long line of moral panics. It will pass.

>>3716084
I don't watch or read The Walking Dead, but writing rape is something very hard. It's one of those themes that deserve a lot of research and contemplation to get right. But it's something too dark and depressing for most people to explore, and the results most of the time speak for themselves. Lots of senseless stupidity and edgy stuff. If Robert Kirkman cared that much about what he wrote, he wouldn't use rape of a male character as an excuse for his bad writing.

>>3716088
Yeah, in a way, his ability is a weakness. He draws good, fast and without sketching, but something gets lost in the process. It's as if he wrote a book and published it, without revisions. Yeah, he has almost no spelling errors in his book, but lots of chapters could be cut, a lot of dialogue is almost there, but not quite that memorable and the pacing is a little uneven. It's like a movie that has a great potential to be a classic, but something is amiss. Kim Jung Gi is like George Lucas. He needs editors to make his art shine.

I think artists should look at kim jung gi and think of why his stuff isn't appealing. I get that it's a great parlor trick to pull out all this visual information in a cohesive language while simultaneously juggling it around in 3d space but there's no filter to the guy. there are no striking compositions, there are no big statements, there are no adventurous shapes. there's no single piece where you go "yea, I'll remember that"

he's a hero on places like /ic/ because he makes you think "if I had that talent, I'd be able to put all my great ideas out there and draw them perfectly" but that's missing the point. his talent, the one he has cultivated and nourished, is that he is able to draw stuff convincingly without focusing on integrating them into something cohesive. you wouldn't be worrying about artistic choices and expressing something unique at that point, you'd be a different person and a different artist. van gogh wouldn't be "van gogh+mad skills" if he he could draw like kim jung gi, the mentality that is required for reaching kim jung gi's level creates an entirely different artistic sensibility

obviously he has a talent and he has made great use of it but it's more like an athletic feat, it's cool to see it being done.

terada also does that thing where he vomits visual fragments but at least there's something there even if it's just cute girls with hats. he's worse at vomiting visual fragments but is that really a desirable end goal?

>>3716104
>he wouldn't use rape of a male character as an excuse for his bad writing.
Actually, the whole female on male rape thing was demanded by the "fans" who went to twitter to accuse him of misogyny after what happened on TWD.

They demanded a male rape scene to "balance the scales", just for them to laugh at scans of the comic on social media and claim it was a "victory" somehow.
When the comic came out /co/ went into a frenzy, spamming the pages on every thread.

>>3716109
You explained better than I ever could. He doesn't filter, he just vomits art on the page without rhyme or reason. It works in a way, but after a while it starts to get boring. I kinda understand why he does that. I have to force myself to study things like clothes or furniture, otherwise, I would just draw girls doing the same pose forever. I wonder if an artist like KJG gets bored of studying after a while and just gives up trying to chase that mastery that never arrives.

Simon Bisley is an example of what complacency does to a guys art. His old stuff was legendary. Every painting he did was full of passion and agression. But now it appears he gave up. So much mediocre stuff. He stopped doing those crazy details, his art got flat and boring. Losing your mojo is a fate worse than death.

Pic related old Bisley.

>>3716114
Lol. The fans asked that he lick their boots and he complied? What a dolt. It's like a prostitute whoring herself out to a man that went an entire month without shower. An artist must have at least a bit of self-respect. The only thing this proves to those "fans" is that they have power over the guy. I wonder if he knows how humiliating this is.

>>3716129
New Bisley

>>3716109
/beg being jelly lol

>>3716114
You should never give in at the demands from SJW, you never win either way

>>3715984

*feel

>>3715752
korean vs russian

>>3715895
just realize Proko is like Linus from LTT
>has successful youtube channel
>has a good business build the youtube channel
>has many informative videos
>has really shitty humor
>has an ugly asian wife

I've seen Kim Jung Gi draw live. Great talent, but you get the impression people go to see him and think that his skill will rub off on them if they sit in the same room when he draws. It's ridiculous and cringey to hear people fawn over the guy.

I don't even like his caricature and style that much. His work ethic is obviously much more impressive.

>>3716017
I'd be really interested if you can remember the name of that documentary anon

>>3716056
He can do whatever the fuck he wants and shitheads like you don't have a right to criticize him.

>>3716149

I disagree that she's ugly. She is cute, feminine and bubbly and seems to really like Proko. Good choice for rearing his children.

>>3715833
>religious shit hole
The PC shit we have now is secular though. It seems like there’s a universal personality type that gets triggered really easily, in the past they used religion as a tool but in a post-religious world they simply move on to politics

>>3716054
Literally this. Crabs are getting steamed ITT they're seething so much.
Also add to the list that KJG draws NSFW and doesnt give a shit.

>>3716251
intersectional feminisim is a religion

>>3716140
*feel'st'stved't'st's'stved'st

>>3715902
I get what you mean, i hate when people adore kids for something an adult can do just because they are younger. Simply the knowledge of how it was made makes them appreciate it more. But this is something completely else.

He is practically talking through drawing. Its just another language for him. He can still do crazy great shit. But because theres so much shit out there from him you have to filter it more, opposed to a painter that does 10 official paintings his whole life.

I dont think i would hang anything on my walls with him, mostly due to me not being a big fan of lineart with no color, but he sure damn inspires me and if masters can exist today he is one.

>>3716049
Look at these "drawings". Some people here call it "art". He doesn't even know what is body's weight distribution, no proportions, no construction. If any of you drew that pic rel, you'd be rightfully shitted over. But since they were told it's good, they say it's good. Now you can visit 90% of the /ic/ threads and see the the results guided buy such "masters".

i don't judge, anyone can choose his own path.

>>3716149
At least they have a wife.

>>3716380
dunning kruger's final form - NGMI

>>3716386
That’s a big fish

>>3716049
>he even admits his art is misogynistic

Sauce?

If true, i like him even more.

>>3716404
for you

>>3716008
>Watch the history big art always were involved with politics of big movements

not at all. Artists always made sure to separate themselves from any type of politics, since after all they are in pursuit of art. The majority of famous paintings became famous in our modern age, and what affected the status was usually the popularity of the artist, the displayed skill, and the age of the piece ofc. But after all it is just a made up value by specific groups who benefit from it, the one thing that always upped the popularity and value of an piece, was theft.
>"The famous painting from_____ was stolen! It sure must be valuable"

After it's brought back to the museum, the interest and demand increased, so did the price and popularity.

>>3715752
the secret is, he was already drawing in 3D by kindergarden. all his neurons had been wired to draw since a young age.
none of you can come close to his level even if you start drawing right now nonstop until you die

>>3716056
Go suck a dick, you massive cunt.

>>3716204
I don't remember the original video, but I found an excerpt here at 1:57:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJ8bQmHwbso

>>3716380
Post artwork.

>>3716285
>I dont think i would hang anything on my walls with him
Congrats, at least you are not brain-dead and tasteless.
You gotta be out of your mind to hang a work by someone who appears to be a low IQ pervert who apparently couldn't even grasp geometry at school.
That's a great and inspiring lesson — if you draw shitty tracings from your dick-minded "imagination" (instead of studying fundamentals from masters), you will always draw like an uneducated insectoid who has zero understanding of Western traditions. You won't have your works on the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel, but you'll definitely obtain a loyal following of incels and perverts who are "gonna make it" while satisfying their lust with that "drawings".

>>3716429
Maybe this one https://www.imdb.com/title/tt7661894/

The whole thing is on yt and it's an interesting watch none the less.

>>3716557
Jesus Christ, you must draw for shit and you're pedantic to boot.

>>3715939
He did
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Var92xzU_Y

>>3715993
At this point that's just free exposure.

>>3715783
I know /ic/ is too retarded to understand this, but thanks for this post. The idea of drawing what I want, get stuck, and look at my studies was very eye opening.

>talent deniers btfo

>>3716424
This, but unironically

>>3716424
>a closet neuroscientist online

>>3715783
This is what we've been telling you all this time and moronic /beg/s keep insisting it's just a meme

i wonder if kim feels impostor syndrome deep down

>>3716918
He 100% knows he's a sham and he's mocking his following continuously.

>>3716947
Did a Korean touch when you were a child? You're really going after Kim.

>>3716947

How is he doing it then? Does he have some kind of bionic eye lenses that project a image on the drawing surface so he can trace it?

>>3716918
every artist has impostor syndrome unless you're a narcissist

>>3715899
Underrated

>>3716084
I never implied drawing offensive or grotesque things wasn't gonna get you criticism, I'm saying it's not the end of your career like everyone on /ic/ believes. Kirkman wrote like 2 or 3 rape scenes in early TWD and he's still making comics today. Miura wrote rape scenes endlessly for the first 100 chapters of Berserk and he's considered one of the most important mangaka of our time. Goblin Slayer's entire popularity at the moment was it had a unexpected rape scene.

Offensive content can be made. You will of course be criticised or attacked for it, there's nothing that can be done about that, it's the internet. But your career won't end. Just be smart about what you put out into the public under your name/brand.

>>3715776
LMAO but did you see how Kim jung Gi is completely bald?

>>3715791
Could you elaborate, because i'm thinking you're a total fucking retard who didn't think it through what you're saying. But i could be wrong and you have a coherent thought in your mind so spit it out.

>>3716918
What's impressive for us is super easy for him. So i'm sure he is enjoying the success but he would rather start improving.

>>3715983
I agree with you. They seem like very beautiful, elaborate notebook doodles like the ones you used to make in high school math. Those never had any meaning, more like mind barfs. Kim Jung Gi is a man who perfected the mind barf.

I still think there is merit in studying his work though, he is obviously extremely mechanically gifted, but I'm glad I'm not the only one who finds that his work is ultimately uninteresting.

>>3715761
then who is Gurney?

>>3717373
Doctor Manhattan

>>3716008
This has to be one of the most idiotic, uneducated, nonsensical posts I've ever read on this board. Van Gogh had other issues, aside from painting, to say the fucking least..?
Besides that, KJG only draws what HE wants and that is exactly all he needs to drive him forward and make him happy. The mindset you're describing seems so painfully paradoxical and self-defeating on several levels: how do you express yourself when your goal seems to be tailoring yourself to others' needs, and how do you acquire an audience if you're, hypothetically, just starting out and making shitty art no one wants to see? If everyone looking to become an artist starts thinking the way you do, that would mean the death of art.

>>3715752

QUESTION..

IS HE AUTISTIC OR DOES HE HAVE SOME DISORDER?

PEOPLE WHO HAVE HAD TRAMATIC INJUIRIES OR EVENTS IN THEIR LIVES HAVE BEEN KNOWN TO OBTAIN BIZARRE TALENTS.

ALSO MY CAPS LOCK DOESNT TURN OFF FUCK IT THOUGH.

DOES HE ILLUSTRATE COMICS OR DOES HE JUST TRAVEL AND SHOW AND TELL HIS ABILITY TO DRAW WHAT EVER HE FUCKING WANTS.?

>>3718852
HE'S ASIAN THATS WHY

>>3716991
His shaved head is more fitting and aesthetic than proko’s extreme widows peak

>>3718938

>HES ASIAN

THE FUCK OUTTA HERE WITH THAT

>>3718938
he is Asian of asian

>>3715866
goddamn you guys are funny as fuck

i was getting tired of the /biz/ and /tv/ memes. These ain bad.

Here's a fuckin classic.

>>3718938
true

>>3716968
I don't have imposter syndrome - I just know I'm not as good as the top talent.

>>3715761
That...makes no sense. If anything Gi is Superman since his abilities are often seen as genetics. While Proko is more of a Batman since he trained for a long time under a "master" in an Atelier and his abilities are usually perceived as being more "artificial"/"manmade"

kim jung gi was drawing stick figures literally hours after being born

>>3716968
nahhh

you:re just shit at art and don:t know anything about business. you probably contemplate suicide too. narcissism has nothing to do.

narcissm would be somebody who got a job opportunity, but after getting rejected after an interview throw a tantrum or essentially argue with their employer.

>>3716052
>48 laws
what particular law talked about this scenario?

>>3715866
>dat ass

>>3716149
Linus is hilarious, but he is ugly as sin and matches his wife.

Stan is a solid 7 and his wife from that small ass pic looks about 6-7ish which seems like a good match

>>3715752
Damn what happened to proko? He used to be very cute.

>>3719842
Nah, Gi is undefeatable through knowledge and talent, while Proko is clearly the inferior through the kryptonite of talent.

>>3715752
I thought proko was more of a merc

>>3720496
7 years later and this still makes me giggle

>>3719842
Nah, Gi is undefeatable through knowledge and talent, while Proko is clearly the inferior through the kryptonite of talent.

>>3720498
>Gi is undefeatable through knowledge and talent
Yeah that's why he's more of a Superman right? Showed up suddenly out of nowhere with completely unmatched and otherworldly abilities no one has ever seen before, stuff like that. But I guess he doesn't really have any equivalent of a Kryptonite

>Proko is clearly the inferior through the kryptonite of talent.
If Proko is superman his Kryptonite would probably be imagination drawing and kangaroos. But I still think he's more of a Batman.

Beginner here. Is proko a good teacher? I'm contemplating between drawabox, proko and ctrl paint.

>>3720507
You can't just choose between one of those, since they all teach a different set of skills.

But, you can replace Draw a Box with Peter Han's Dynamic Sketching + Perspective Made Easy (+Perspective for Comic Book Artists if you want to learn more) and that'd be a good set to go through for a beginner.

>>3720512
Thanks I'll check out Peter hans. I'm currently reading perspective made easy

>>3715752
a few artists I follow went to a few cons with him, but I never actively looked him up until now
>doesnt care for pcness
based

>>3715993
>If you don’t have any “diversity” in your portafolio you’ll get called out
You also get called out for "cultural appropriation" if you are white and you paint or draw non-white people, even if it's done respectfully.

Gi is absolute mad, lmao
Drawing pic related in his sketchbook and show it everybody hahaha

>>3720559
His kid will either become an ascetic monk or psycho sexual degenerate. No inbetweens.

>>3716386
>>3716404

>>3720559
Absolutely based

>>3720559
holy fuck this is so hot...
More stuff like this?

>>3715752
THAT'S IT IM DOWNLOADING HIS ARTBOOKS AND THEY WILL TEACH/INSPIRE ME TO GET BETTER

heh (teleports behind you)
so long fuckers. Im gonna make it

>>3720739
also holy fuck...this guy is badass openminded top tier artist.
I never was interested in him because /ic/ made him look stupid and meme-tier like those "sakimi" or whatever that was (the weeb that draws faces that all look the same).
But after watching this interview im seriously inspired by him his art and his mindset

>>3715752
i think i'm becoming an old fuddy duddy, seeing kids shill for free really saddens me

i mean look at that copy, it's like a car salesman

>>3720741
Shut it, slavic faggot

>>3720741
Кpинж.

>>3720768
shut up dumbass amerifat weaboo
or i will hack Trump election again and make him to be elected for 20 more years dumb faggot

>>3715833
I mean, what are you afraid of? All this sperging about PC culture seems so unnecessary unless you're drawing hardcore porn or edgeshit. You might trigger trannies by drawing beautiful women, but that's it otherwise.

>>3720794
It'll still be a better than whatever shithole you're crawling in, slavic faggot

>>3716049
>>3720559
Those drawings look like typical asian cuck fantasies with beautiful women and ugly men.

>>3720799
Well since Tump is Putin's bitch your precious US of fucking A will be fucked to the point where gunshots and weekly school shootings will fuck your country even more

>>3720739
>>3720741
based

>>3720805
How did you become such an expert in cuck fantasies? Actually don't answer that, we already know.

>>3720830
W-why do we know it?

>>3720830
I smell some insecurity in you anon, anyone who watches porn or reads doujinshi can tell you the ugly old fat man with beautiful woman cliche is fetishy.

>>3715752
>one of the main topics is SJW shit
Oh my God! This man is drawing GENITALS! Someone has to stop him!!!

>>3720887
i'll stop him

>>3720898
our hero

>>3720559
*yawn*
Step aside.

>>3720908
>>3719811

i think i draw better than kjg

>>3721583
A lot of anon can desu. Hes overrated

>>3715752
This is actually such a great video. It inspired me to just open a blank page and draw whatever I felt like. It was fun. I feel like I should draw more things I enjoy and less grindy boring things like constantly drawing faces and bodies and hands with the sole focus on improving

>>3721644
GMI

>>3720506
I was gonna say his Kryptonite is probably since his sketches are what sells, he sketches so much that his colors must be lacking- but they're not. Very soft and pleasing colors here, clear understanding of lighting. This motherfucker is unstoppable.

He's probably got Saitama syndrome. Everyone wants to be his student, has to travel a ton and is always asked the same questions on how to be good.

>>3721655
I like KGJ but his colors suck. This has been the number one critique I've heard about him as well. His comic looks like mud on a page. Even the piece you posted has an unappealing green tint IMO.

>>3721657
His non comic watercolors are quite nice, but he stopped doing them mostly since people care more about his ink stuff.

>>3721658
To be fair, the guy has like 50 years left on earth. I have no doubt he'll reach a higher level of color mastery eventually.

>>3721659
Nah I think that pic with the sniper just looks worse since it's comic colouring, it has to be more simple and washed out. He has demos where he paints straight onto the page without lines and can be more adventurous.

I feel like he'll improve more if he can go home and do his own stuff like he wants to, performing for other people makes you stagnate after a while since they all want the same thing. Katsuya Terada mentions it in this video, also mentions what you say, how he has however many years left and plans to use them to get better.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPnQY_Y3ndA

>that Final Fantasy 7 sword

Stan no! I know this is a couple years old but I’m pretty confident Stan is still struggling with imagination drawing (his cartoons in his videos are outsourced so to speak); pretty sure this stupid sword is lifted right from google images. I hope he’s still practicing

>>3721583
you can't draw shit as fast and detailed as him without ctrl+z you retard

>>3721950
>without ctrl+z you retard
hey grandpa
most of art these days made on PC or even Ipad.
get with the modern time old fart

>>3716049
>misogynistic

and what if it is?
certain themes must not be expressed because they are offensive?

>>3721768
he needs to loosen up a lot and spend time just doodling stuff that comes into his mind

imagination can be trained

>>3716109
> cheap parlor trick? get a grip jellyboi

>>3720805
b-but that's not an ugly man

>>3720584
from the thumbnail I thought that was the kangaprooko

>>3715752
>śoyko

>>3722017
>watched the video to that point
>talks shit about based proko

>>3721668
amazing artwork

>ask artist how can us mortals achieve their level of greatness
>lol idk just draw i guess
Every fucking time.
Fuck this shit.

>>3716056
lol virgin

>>3722062
Draw imagination, copy reference, study life. Over and over while having fun because in sticks better then.
tl;dr actually draw more and try to always plug up deficiencies. No one can give you an optimized routine. Many people on /ic/ will still try, of course

>>3722067
KJG is a literal autistic savant with an abnormal memory that can't be replicated by just grinding like an MMO. Not even he fully understands hew he can draw this way.

>>3722070
If you think I'm telling you to grind like an MMO, you misunderstand. That said, KJG's skill is probably tough to reach even if you try more than most. Doesn't mean you can't reach monstrous skill if you work hard though.

>Not even he fully understands hew he can draw this way.
No fucking artist can recount exactly how they reached their current level lol
The fact is not good reason for a /beg/ to throw his hands up in the air and whine on /ic/

>>3722070
>Not even he fully understands hew he can draw this way.
Pretty much everyone exceptionaly good is this way.

>>3722073
>>3722074
>hey, Michael Jordan, how did you get so good?
>Michael Phelps, teach us your secrets

>>3722078
Yeah it's funny how in a discussion on how to get good as your idols people inevitably bring up the biggest legends and cry about how it's impossible to reach them. No shit faggot. You might be able to get under 10s 100m sprint if you're 18 and start doing your best now (or maybe not, I don't even know), but you will probably never be as quick as Usain Bolt or the other giga niggas. This is due to reasons that are simply beyond your control. You're probably not the genetic monster that you need to be to become #1. You can still get really good at running fast though. Another example is maths. People here could probably learn mainstream maths and be locally well known for their smarts, but they're not going to solve new areas of maths because they simply don't have the extreme IQ needed or whatever, it's just life and it's weird how people constantly complain about it here, as if hoping that some sage on these boards will give them the secret panacea to overcome it

>>3722091
Not that anon you're spazzing out on, but I think his intention was to mock that other guy's post about asking someone like KJG who clearly has a natural born skill that can't be achieved by normal people how they can get as good as him.

Which is pretty rational.

Would you honestly tell someone who is 5'6 that in order to reach Micheal Jordan's level of skill is to just practice more?

Or what about someone who's trying to beat Micheal Phelps, someone who is a proven genetic freak, that all they have to do is just swim more?
lol

>>3722099
The thing with skills like drawing is that your baseline potential is hidden in your skull barring things like lacking limbs. The ideal athlete in a given sport is much easier to describe in physical terms. It's much easier to see the difference between an athletic person and a tubby little guy with asthma. That's why >>3722078 brought up athletes specifically, because they fit his argument very well.

It's unknown exactly why KJG can draw like he does. How much of it is hard work and how much of it is genetic? How do his genetics influence his growth process? Pure processing power and photo memory or fascination that lets him work like an autist and constantly level up his skill more than the bitch /beg/ could ever bring himself to do? Probably a mix + other traits, but what does the mix look like? Nobody has a clue, not even KJG. He couldn't seriously bring that up in this kind of interview, and the only reason that the question is even seriously asked is that the subject is a relatively intangible skill (drawing).

>clearly has a natural born skill that can't be achieved by normal people
This is the problematic claim. What skill? What are normal people? All these spooks and preconcieved notions and current lack of understanding of human brains make it impossible to seriously bring the subjects up in a light hearted interview. KJG can't even tell people to be autistic and have good memory in order to draw like him. They are not good descriptors, which can easily be observed by looking at other so called autists with good memory.

The best a person can do is try. Draw imagination, copy reference, study life. Why don't you whine at Proko for asking questions to which the answers could only make you sad? Or grow up

>>3722099

t.blackpill "I can only succed with a 12" inch cock and perfect bone structure" incel mentality

>>3722120
How is that "incel mentality" you humongous moron?

Are you denying the fact that some people are just born with unique traits others aren't and can't replicate? Because thats basically the gist of that anon's post. It's by no means "blackpilled" or whatever meme buzzword you have assigned to that kind of stuff.

>>3722120
nobody is saying that, dummy, we're arguing talent x skill
here given the statement that Gi said he doesn't know how he is so good while Proko probably could tell the structured process he went through to achieve his level of mastery

>all those walls of text
I can imagine what's going on here

>>3722128
kek

>>3722128
What do you imagine?

>>3722128
I really really like this webm

>>3722132

new vid out
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9LOUHmPhS8

>>3722292
man his portrait pack is so bare bone glad he add new stuff now

>>3721655
did he ever looked through a telescopic sight in the army? perspective is all wrong

>>3722325

Sometimes (quite often) you have to sacrifice a bit of reality in favor of readability. How would you have changed it?

Seems like he just has some kinda savant-like photographic memory-tier fuckery going on. Nobody here is gonna reach a similar level without being born with lucky brain damage.

So this is the power of a decade+ worth of atelier training. yikes

>>3722498
That's why he's so famous and people are fascinated by him.

Some of his fans don't realize that his talent is inherent and isn't simply the product of "hard work". I mean, im sure he works hard, but this level of skill is beyond that scope.

>>3722550
Can't we just admit that anybody famous ever was born with the famous talent?

>>3722498
>>3722550
no its down to hard work. he drew more than anyone growing up, he actually enjoys it so draws 24/7. a lot of people would be his level if they drew the same amount. i hate people that treat skilled artists as superhumans who were gifted their abilities and nobody else could achieve them

>>3722550
i think it probably has more to do with being a single minded child. pretty much every prodigious artist had been working hard in their field since childhood, and therefore had more experience even at a young age than people who had been working for years as adults. thats not to say that someone else cant reach that level without a childhood of experience, but if you realise how to work and learn at a young age, you have the most free time and recieve the most praise for your efforts, so it condenses itself into greater work ethic.

>>3722513
he fixes it with great rendering, crab

>>3723201

>polishing a turd

>>3722637
If skill was relative to how much you draw, then why are there furry artists from like the 90s who still suck despite drawing all the time...?

>>3723205
I don't think you know what that means.

>>3723284
A lot of people are not all people and hard work was also mentioned. Hard work implies focused study.

>>3723284
Drawing a lot by itself will do hardly anything if you stay within your comfort zone, not bothering to properly study, drawing the same dumb shit every day for decades like https://www.deviantart.com/kodyboy555/gallery/

>>3723380
Good lord

>>3723380
don't shit on my boy kody, nerd

>>3723380
>it's keep going on and on
good lord

>>3723380
hehe

>>3722128
What game?

>>3723380
>6,596 deviations
how can we even compete

>>3715752
Doesn't his arm hurt from drawing so much?

>>3723760
He has permanent calluses from holding a pen or pencil for so long, but I think his arms and such are fine.

>>3723769
what a beast

>>3723284
i bet they dont draw a lot compared to kjg though
>>3723380
kody too, 1 crude ms paint drawing a day is nothing even though hes consistent.

drawing a lot means waking up in the morning, grabbing your sketchbook from your bedside table and not stopping till youre physically falling asleep in the early hours. i had a phase of my life when i really caught the drawing bug and lived like this, i improved faster than any time before. i just wish my motivation spike lasted longer it seems like kjg is permanently in that state

seems like a lot of his criticizers don't seem to understand that kjg is not trying to be a fine artist, he just loves drawing and is happy being able to make a living doing what he would be doing anyways. And to those who say he is not technically talented like the Masters of yor, you are retarded. he is in many ways the best drawer that ever lived.

>>3715752

Gotta respect a guy whos not ashamed of his perverted mind. Genitals!

>>3723997
even kjg said in OP video he would wish this state to last until he dies

>>3723997
>>3724393
so that's what his secret is, he is constantly parasited by the draw bug
>>3723769
wow

>>3723769

I have a small callous in the exact same spot on my right hand, but I've never had it grown to such gargantuan proportions. Now that I work with a tablet it is almost completely gone. Damn I feel like such a pussy now

>>3715783
Get fucked Loomis the true prophet has arrived and he's Korean.

>>3720908
How dare you post the scratches of a pleb with some weird as xeno degeneracy and compare that to the likes of a god.

>>3715783
I dont know about you dipshits but my friends and I learned that when we were 8 years old. It wasn't a secret it was fucking obvious.

>>3722550
>>3722637
>>3723284
It's two steps, really:
1) Be autistic
2) Spend years drawing an absolute shitton of observational stuff and from life (NOT your furry OC and anime)

good bread anons. I love u guys.

>>3721768
>his cartoons in his videos are outsourced so to speak

What cartoons?

>>3723769
man, who can even compete with this

>>3715791
Kim Jung Gi literally said in the fucking video he wanted to stop drawing for an audience and draw for himself like he used to enjoy doing.

>>3720805
that's called reality

good looking men is unnatural and gay

go be a faggot somewhere else

>>3724519
Half of his sketch books and anime and furry shit you absolute retard.

>>3725268
Yeah, now. As in presently. You're fucking retarded if you think his beginning sketchbooks looked anywhere similar. Back to /beg/ with you, /beg/.

>>3723769
Really wonder how he manages. I'm a chump who only draws 3-4 hours a day on average but my elbow joint/wrists tend to feel uncomfortable only after 2 hours of drawing.

Then again he did do army time. I wonder if he finds time to exercise when he travels and that's what keeps him healthy. Or maybe he just has better posture.

>>3725271
Damn you're right Anon, look at his 11 year old sketchbook. No different from Hogarth or Bridgman's realistic life studies.
KJG said it himself, he got good just spending years drawing what he wants, you're insane if you think all those years he filled sketchbooks with Vilppu-tier gestures. No doubt his highschool sketchbooks are full of 80s anime titties.

>>3725285

Has he ever shown drawings from his childhood and teenage years?

>>3725285
nta but how did is colors get so much worse from tis

>>3725304
fuck's sake.
his* and this*

>>3720739
I don't have 2009, 14, or ESPECIALLY magnum opus 2015

fucking hurts

is it really worth a 100 dollars?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-4lQAkDBpM

>>3715833
>what is the medieval renaissance
What a book nigger

>>3725779
>is X art really worth Y amount of money?
are we really going to have this discussion?

>>3726919

It's a book, not original art

>>3725306
why color it if it's going to look like that?

>>3727094
w-what's wrong?

>>3726931
>I don't care about about X theory unless it's the author's original notebooks

>>3727283

What? The comment seemed to imply that the poster thought the discussion was about the price of original art.

>>3727291
this >>3726931 anon is the first to bring up the ''original'' term in discussion. why?

>>3727299

Because the first anon asked if KJG's artbook was worth a 100 bucks and got a cryptic reply saying "is X art really worth Y amount of money?" which makes no sense unless he thought he was asking if KJG was selling his actual original sketchbook for a hundred dollars (which obviously would have been a steal)

>>3727308
I am the one who wrote
>>is X art really worth Y amount of money?
and
>>I don't care about about X theory unless it's the author's original notebooks
and nowhere did I imply original or otherwise, I just asked if we should really start a discussion on the worth of art when it has been talked to hell and back

>>3727322

And what the hell does the "worth of art" have to do with the price of a book?

>>3727330
none, but that's what that anon implied >>3725779 hence the >>3726919

>>3727371

You're not making any sense buddy

>>3727581
you are not making any sense pal

it's no surprise that this board has so many people fawning over KJG's scribbling - it is, after all, a board full of young people, overly concerned with juvenile notions of coolness and edginess. he is an unashamed manchild, who is both gifted and obsessive.

occasionally you'll catch of a glimpse of something vaguely human in his work, before it's abruptly interrupted by some self-conscious drivel. his work his hollow.

KJG is an intellectual midget.

>>3727688
>T. jealous brainlet
Who gives a fuck about the substance of what he draws, he's crazy skillful, which is what I admire most about his work