/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>3699332
>whats wrong
it looks like shit, you use to much blue and have zero understanding of values, it looks flatter than a pancake
>solution
stop using so much blue and learn your fundies

need to do more midtones and highlights next. probably gonna keep stacking strokes until it's all blended to get her

>>3699344
>it looks like shit
This means nothing.
>you use too much blue
This is accurate. Particularly for this year.
>and have zero understanding of values
This means nothing.
>it looks flatter than a pancake
what does? the OP?

Also not that I don't disagree that it largely is pretty flat, but when it comes to the stacatto strokes memes they're all connected to what I imagine images that imprint into your brain when you're dying may look like. Like your mind is eroding as your brain rots and this image is the last thing you see. Them coming off as kind of 2d images burned onto the canvas is something I'm consciously aware of. But even then I'd say there's some definition in the Gal Gadot meme that I was happy with wear it was going.
>stop using so much blue
This is the year where I abuse "whites" and for a lot of reasons this has turned into the year where everything is super blued. Plus the whole process is starting with blues and stacking purps then reds then yellows then highlights.
>and learn your fundies
explain what you're referring to?

are her eyes meant to be closed or opened?

the style of the teeth and gums looks out of place

@3699508
The retard hasn't responded in hrs.

I think that means they have finally been banned.
Thank fuck hahahaha. hallelujah

>>3699332
Wow, you are getting worse.

>>3699332
good luck to you mang
let the haters keep on hating

>>3699332
Using so much blue on an otherwise green, yellow, orange, and pink palette make the characters look. Theres no colors that balence the picture... perhaps using even more nuetral colors could help. But in this picture, the art gives off a muddy vibe. And the blues on the face, unfortunately, look like veins and such making the characters look sick. I think you would benefit from less odd color choices at least for a while - that is to try to get colors as close to the otigibal as possible. As for other critique, I think you need to practice lighting. Perhaos its because of the bizzare color schemes, but the lack of lighting is almost disorenting. You could add so much to your art if you had clear and dynamic light sources.

>>3699332
oh damn nigga that is fuckin HIP and RADICAL
you know, i know, slayin bitches left and right with yo funny ASS memes my dude

>>3700203
Oh please god. I was going to avoid posting at all but if he doesn't respond at all I want to laugh at him while he can't respond to me.

I never reply to your stuff but this is seriously triggering...

okay why make a thread if you won't even listen to the critique you literally ask for and instead attack it and defend yourself saying it means nothing; He's telling you exactly how to improve your paintings, stop abusing blues, look at the thumbnails of all your damn paintings, they're unreadable garbage and then when you expand them it doesn't help at all because as anon mentioned, you have no understanding of values a.k.a. forms.You are not thinking in terms of 3D shapes at all, you can use all the grids you want and build all your stupid ass clay models but if you don't understand forms and you don't practice your fucking fundies your stuff will always end up looking flat and unappealing.

So the solution? fucking start doing figure drawing studies fucknig actually try to get good or stop posting asking for critique you won't listen to

>>3701890
>muh fundies
do you realize how many excellent painters have no real understanding of form? you should learn about how art is made outside of the concept design world.

>>3701968
how do you fix this guy's garbage then

>>3700203
>>3701883
haven't been banned just been doing RDR2 online obsessively and not doing anything productive. Forgot I started this thread tbphwyf.
>I was going to avoid posting at all but if he doesn't respond at all I want to laugh at him while he can't respond to me.
lol wimp

>>3701890
>okay why make a thread if you won't even listen to the critique you literally ask for and instead attack it and defend yourself saying it means nothing;
depends on what we're talking about idk? Like everyone loves to cirlejerk about reeeing about what is wrong when I'm kind of always much more interested in just saying what I should do on them next time to make them better or whatever. Hearing the same generic muh fundies memes is just boring and generally not super applicable.

Like I appreciate things like >>3701707 because they're getting into more than just saying that muh fundamentals are dumb.
>You are not thinking in terms of 3D shapes at all
like when you say this it's annoying. Of course I am. Hyperbolic absolutes are meaningless.

>>3701970
define areas of the painting with distinct value ranges and make sure the only paint that goes in that area falls within that value range. allow some interplay between values at the edges of the areas but keep it pretty limited. you can still have an interesting mix of different tone/value within a single area, but it should be within a well defined range.

try to maintain consistency between the relative value of different parts of the face. unexpected contrast makes faces (in particular) look unnatural, so it's pretty important that if one area is darker than another in the reference that that relationship be maintained.

actually forget all that. he's a faggot and should go spend countless hours freehand sketching ellipses if he wants to be good at painting.

>>3699345
I like this one, looks like you put more creativeness into it.

pls go to tumblr and do not come back

>>3702199
[spoilers]lol[/spoilers]

desu I feel your technique would be far more interesting if these weren't just repainted reaction images. You patterned brushwork in isolation is really interesting to look at. Some of the best work I've seen from you has been of subjects I don't recognize. All subjective of course. I feel like your potential is limited based on the reproducibility of the reference you are using, which is a shame. I know you use grids, which is cool, but do you have any work where you haven't used grids and painted from life? Or even if you used a grid, was it at least a life painting?

>>3702283
> Some of the best work I've seen from you has been of subjects I don't recognize
I agree probably. Like when I'm working on something I'm care about I often either try and play it safe and fuck it up or get anxious after doing any effort and stall with working on it anymore. But when it's just some random reaction of someone I don't really even care about I tend to try more weird shit and a lot of the hangups go away.
>I feel like your potential is limited based on the reproducibility of the reference you are using, which is a shame
Yeah as I'm shifting out of the "peasant painting period" where I've been primarily focused on memes and reaction images solicited on 4chan, I have started to focus on ideas that don't involve proportional copies of images I don't own.
>I know you use grids, which is cool, but do you have any work where you haven't used grids
Well I mean 90% of year one was fucking graphite transfers. But 30-40 of them were hand drawn without gridding.

>>3702283
> and painted from life?
Not really.
>Or even if you used a grid, was it at least a life painting?
Done life drawings in 2018 but no paintings. My first attempt at a selfie meme was done by taking 2 pictures and photoshopping them together and doing the normal grid technique.

Got 35 more sef-portraits to go for muh van gogh race though, and most of them will be either hand-drawn to canvas from life and then hand-painted to canvas with no underdrawing.

>>3702283
This is how it goes, he has no skills so he paints memes. But painting memes is a little boring in itself, so he builds up this whole schtick around painting memes juxtaposing it with van gogh and whatever he can grab to make this "thing" that looks like an art project. Now he has this giant house of cards art-project more or less constructed around the fact that he has no actual skills. The story takes an interesting twist when the protagonist discovers he actually has the skill to make regular paintings. what will he choose? The house of meme cards propped up by drugs and a web of of literally nothings, or will he leave the fantasy to pursue the fragment of actual skill that has appeared?

>>3702004
pretty good memes for the first 2 paragraphs.

>>3702429
Fair enough. Btw this is coming from a guy who has criticized you in the past. For what it's worth, I've come around to see value in your work. I just hope you don't stagnate, because I feel you've got potential.

>>3702434
>This is how it goes, he has no skills so he paints memes.
heck yeah. it's popular and relevent subject matter that you can experiment and learn with. Can't develop skillz by doing nothing. And by painting memes, even if you fuck up there's still audience interest in the subject, and the shittiness may even add an irony factor.
>But painting memes is a little boring in itself
I mean it's less boring 2 me than like still lives or scapes.
>so he builds up this whole schtick around painting memes juxtaposing it with van gogh and whatever he can grab to make this "thing" that looks like an art project.
I mean the Van Gogh thing is and has been pretty connected to the whole endeavor since the get go. Whole decision to make it a full-time effort happened in the Van Gogh museum.
>Now he has this giant house of cards art-project more or less constructed around the fact that he has no actual skills.
Eh. More than you tho amirite.
>The story takes an interesting twist when the protagonist discovers he actually has the skill to make regular paintings. what will he choose?
I don't care about regular paintings. It's always been about the quest for a novel aesthetic.
>The house of meme cards propped up by drugs and a web of of literally nothings, or will he leave the fantasy to pursue the fragment of actual skill that has appeared?
Both probably?

>>3699345
I have also critized you a lot, but I've seen this one several times now and I actually like it.

>>3702434
not OP, but he's learning through experimentation, also he's stated on multiple occasions that he's going for quantity to reach the body of work similar to Van Gogh by the end of the year.

>>3702447
are you his secretary or what lol

>>3702451
No. In fact, if you weren't a drooling retard, you could figure out his intent by looking at his stroke technique and comparing that to late-life Van Gogh.

>>3702437
appreciate it. Sorry if I was a bozo before. And part of the whole idea of scheduling for shifting focus to doing new things "wrong" every year, within an overarching 3-act structure where focus shifts to new subjects and mediums and stuff, hopefully prevents too much stagnation.

I've also spent most of this year looking at doing monthly themes to keep things spficy. Like there was Unfuck August where I started no new canvasses and only worked on paintings I started that look like shit. There was Selftember, where I was focused more on self-portraits and all sobriety and everything. Oktoberfest October. I'm thinking next year I'll do No Paint November, where I only work on drawings. I half-committed this year. I guess December is mostly focused on wrapping up the year and finding a satisfying conclusion to the time-lapse "journey."

Like I've got ~6 years and ~600 paintings to gogh. Hopefully it doesn't get too boring.

>>3702461
Best of luck. I honestly see the heavy Van Gogh influence and I absolutely love >>3699332 and >>3699345, since they both showcase that patterned brushwork. Only thing I could possibly recommend is having stronger positive space contrast, since it might show off your strengths better. Also, if you do more of these, could you also include dates in the file name so it's easier to differentiate between new work and older works?

>>3702496
More specifically, this one >>3702433 is where I see the positive space contrast helping, since it doesn't have the patterned colors to break the piece up. Although, I will say, going back on my dates request, I can't tell if this is older work or not, so I don't even know if my rather small critique is even valid. Either way, I've got my eye on you.

>>3702496
This samefagging is just pathetic.

>>3699332

>>3702500
Did you know that the only person who truly knows that this isn't samefag is OP? Did you also know that you're the only one who cares?

>>3702429
>year one was graphite transfers
it sounds like you're autistically limiting yourself to methods of painting with the hope that they will inherently make you better. what has using grids for the last year taught you? what is the point of doing this? you do realise painting is outcome based, and your learning process doesn't matter as long as you learn everything properly and can consistently reproduce """good""" work in a timely matter. i want you to get better but it seems like you're at a war with yourself and this forum for no reason.

>>3699401
Lol. God luck you fucking faggot. Stay bad.

>>3699332
draw something from your imagination for once you dull one-trick pony

>>3699332
Bloody christ.
I've seen this images popping from time to time in the threads, but I thought it was a /ic/ meme, not a deffensive autist thinking they are good.

I'll screencap this thread, and save it for the days when I feel my art is bad.

>>3699332
kill yourself
>>3699345
kill yourself
>>3699401
kill yourself
>>3701991
kill yourself
>>3702003
kill yourself
>>3702429
kill yourself
>>3702433
kill yourself
>>3702436
kill yourself
>>3702441
kill yourself
>>3702461
kill yourself

>>3702542
something good has to come from this madness

>>3702505
not the guy, but wouldn't there be two people in this thread who knows it's not samefag? However, if it was samefagging, only op would know.... AHA!

but seriously, this may or may not be samefagging, but I'm pretty sure you started samefagging liberally a few months back op.

>>3699332
Do you just have a stack of these at your place? Seems sad.

>>3702521
>it sounds like you're autistically limiting yourself to methods of painting with the hope that they will inherently make you better.
idk about "better." Just different. It's part of the idea of the "quest for the novel aesthetic." Like you prop up all these rules and then develop ideas around them and start subverting them and spin out into the unknown.
>what has using grids for the last year taught you?
I mean they're great for getting a better understanding of space and framing and perspective and all that stuff. Plus they're pretty standard practice for transferring an image to canvas. It's part of being a painter.
> you do realise painting is outcome based,
eh I mean mostly?
>and your learning process doesn't matter as long as you learn everything properly
I'm learning improper things properly
>and can consistently reproduce """good""" work in a timely matter.
not my bag
>i want you to get better but it seems like you're at a war with yourself
there is only one enemy and it will be subverted and destroyed

>>3702746
u wish u had a meme stacc boah

>>3702528
u seem upset
>>3702535
wiiilll do
>>3702542
tldr
>>3702548
sorry ur upset my guy
>>3702558
I've samefagged essays about why I'm a piece of shit and stuff.

>>3702437
lmao he has been doing this for years, which is sad. He already stagnated a lot for whatever 'artistic endeavor' he was probably trying to pursue.

>>3699401
>>and have zero understanding of values
>This means nothing.
It’s funny that you think that, but not unexpected with how all over the place your values are.

Ok here is my critique. I painted over your drawing. I didn't bother to finish it but you can see what I mean.

1.-Your proprotions are way off... your ear is too small, and your top of the head is too small.
2.Avoid drawing all teeth and all skin folds. Looks ugly. Less is more.
3.-Be more careful about color theory. Skin looks dead and background isn't in harmony with skin


Learn to draw before painting. If your drawing is bad no amount of rendering will save. Case in point my overpaint... didn't save it.

>>3702826
wat

>>3702763
You pretty dense, huh. Your paintings look like crap. They make me I'll to look at them. For your own good do something else and stop being so stuck up.

>>3702806
seems like you're not going to make it and you're upset.
>>3702810
I don't really get the meme. Rendering is an extension of drawing.
>>3702826
this meme is informative AND fun!
>>3702872
>You pretty dense, huh.
idk. You're pretty upset, huh.
>Your paintings look like crap.
Really activates your almonds, huh.
>They make me I'll to look at them.
that's pretty powerful. Just think that you'll never make anything that physiologically affects anyone.
>For your own good do something else and stop being so stuck up.
For your own good shoot yourself in the brain and then stop being a cancerous do-nothing naysayer. Do anything at all ya doingus.

>>3703079
>I don't really get the meme. Rendering is an extension of drawing.
Look at your paintings and then look at your sketches.

>>3703087
>Look at your paintings and then look at your sketches.
ok now what

>>3699332
I think you should try putting less emphasis on skin folds and every little detail there is, using black or near black tones to define them doesn't look good on your paintings in my opinon and it's the main gripe I have with the stuff you post. Also a tad too much blue clashing with other colors as other anons have pointed out.
Keep painting anon.

>>3703079
Delusional.

>>3703088
nvm
both bad. You should take off both masks.

>>3703079
>I don't really get the meme. Rendering is an extension of drawing.
Don't worry, you'll paint it, and do a terrible job at it.

>>3703098
>>3703092
>>3703100
rude

>>3703091
>>3703091
>I think you should try putting less emphasis on skin folds and every little detail there is,
yeah I should do a simple guy to break things up probably.
>using black or near black tones to define them doesn't look good on your paintings in my opinon and it's the main gripe I have with the stuff you post.
I feel you. The black thing has been a recurring theme since the beginning.
>Also a tad too much blue clashing with other colors as other anons have pointed out.
yeah the idea behind it is that I eventually stack colors on top and it eventually blends to look more like skin. But then I use weird blues and get lazy and they're left incomplete when I get to the reds and yellows phase.
>Keep painting anon.
wiiiill do

>>3702535
like most of the things I draw from imagination are connected to movie/story ideas I've had brewing in muh head for the last decade+. I don't spend a lot of time on them and they're normally just like quick concept sketches and junk.

>>3702535
idk I kind of want to draw something from muh brain grapes today but nothing is jumping out at me.

>>3703101
Why is it so hard for you consider your art is bad. It's not even original. You're just painting memes. Badly.

>>3703107
>Why is it so hard for you consider your art is bad.
I don't really care if it is. I value production itself. Wrote a haiku about it:
>Nothing is perfect;
>and anything is better.
>Time is entropy.

> It's not even original.
I'd venture to argue that very few people would be able to replicate my aesthetic.
>You're just painting memes.
Yeah. There are very few meme painters. There were even less 2 years ago. And there will be hundreds more in the coming years. It's funny to me to see you jump from "It's not even original" to "You're just doing something that nobody else thought to do."
>Badly.
Does it upset you that the standards that you use to justify why you do nothing dont effect me? Like these threads are ideally about (you) helping a belligerent dipshit make art better. This idea that you need to obsess about how "bad" I am and basically just refuse to do anything ITT other than whine about it is kind of weird to me. It always just screams that you're super insecure about your own shit and you're kind of blatantly projecting the cognitive dissonance you feel about yourself at me.

Like how often do you choose NOT to do something for fear of it ending up being "bad?"

thinking about this contraption again.

Think it'll be too much of a hassle to try and build it around being able to use any of my 11x14 canvasses. Maybe I should build one first that's designed to work with 8x10s.

And then for memes that it could work for I was just thinking about Fight Club and how much of a edgy faggot I was about that movie and book when I was a tween, and I should make something about it. And that led back to the JOI box.

So like I could do a bunch of different "cartridges" kind of like a floppy disk or n64 kind of aesthetic where you load in the images into the slots. Ideas are:
>bladerunner: fuckbot v hologram waifu
>fight club: "jack" v tyler durden
>they live: news anchor on/off
>prequel meme: darth vader v doofy anakin
>yes/no meme: drake or rooney or someone
>sadfleck bvs meme idk
the possibilities are endless!

>>3703125
The most ironic post I've seen in a long time.

>b-but muh style
>I-I'm not projecting, YOU'RE projecting!

Look at this Dunning Kruger

>>3702502
i like this meme btw. I'll be thinking about it next time I work on it in July.

>>3703145
>The most ironic post I've seen in a long time.
idk about that. plus appeals to hypocrisy or whatever isn't really irony it's just that you don't have an argument.
>b-but muh style
yeah I'm not selling any originals until the race is over. The entire thing is fundamentally about subverting norms in a quest for a novel aesthetic. Like I spent my childhood and teens learning how to into art in a traditional academic setting, stopped focusing on art and drawing at 18, and then got back into it at 27, specifically focused on building a style around the concepts of innovation from ignorance and novelty through subversion and stuff.

Like I'm not trying to get a job with this shit. I don't care about potential industrial applications of m'labor. This is the job for me. And when the race is over I'll be done.

>I-I'm not projecting, YOU'RE projecting!
I never say I'm not projecting. When you interact with anonymous people you typically have to project a lot about yourself, since you only know who you're talking to from a few lines of text. I've talked some about how the autoresponse (you) bot meme is all about using empathetic projection and responding to everything as a means to write about muh ideas and stuff.

And yeah of course you're projecting. You probably wouldn't be upset right now if you actually did work.
>Look at this Dunning Kruger
It's funny because you probably have zero experience painting faces with acrylic paint. Which would mean you're projecting right now.

>>3702755
wht colors should I doo next on this?

>>3703176

The issue here is that style is intentional. Your work, on the other hand, looks sloppy, unpracticed, and just plain ugly.

Look, if you're doing this for yourself, that's totally fine. You do you, boo.

But then I have to ask: why are you posting here? It's obviously not for mass appeal, and you're not getting much by posting here.

People have literally been trying to help you make your paintings better, and you've just been shitposting, ignoring good advice people on here have given you.

Why even subject yourself to it, if you don’t intend to get any better?

Also:

>It's funny because you probably have zero experience painting faces with acrylic paint. Which would mean you're projecting right now.

That's twisted logic if I've ever seen it. What does anybody elses painting skills have to do with your badly painted shitposting?

>>3703181
>The issue here is that style is intentional. Your work, on the other hand, looks sloppy, unpracticed, and just plain ugly.
I mean the sloppiness is something that I justify as being an aspect of the process. Like I'm starting with the original image and then spiraling out into disorder.

And yeah there's no practice other than what's on the paintings. like pic related was the first attempt at doing a gogh strokes meme. And then >>3702441 and >>702461 were me trying new things and "practicing" on them, and applying those thoughts on 131. They what now?.

>and just plain ugly.
like a snail slithering along the razors edge

>But then I have to ask: why are you posting here?
I mean the whole series is inspired by and kind of reflective of (you)s from 4chan. The whole thing is kind of about the dang place.
>It's obviously not for mass appeal, and you're not getting much by posting here.
ability to publicly archive my thougths and ideas and arguments related to the production of this shit for me to be able to refer back to later. Plus I don't really like positive reinforcement. Being antagonized is kind of fuel for me?
>People have literally been trying to help you make your paintings better, and you've just been shitposting, ignoring good advice people on here have given you.
I mean I reflect on and try to apply everything people say, even if I do respond with bait or whatever.

>>3703181
>Why even subject yourself to it, if you don’t intend to get any better?
A: I absolutely intend on getting "better" and I already have significantly.
B: Fuck safespacing. I like using argumentation and conflict and having an underlying debate behind the things that I do. Spite and angst and tribalism are powerful motivators.

>That's twisted logic if I've ever seen it. What does anybody elses painting skills have to do with your badly painted shitposting?
It's making a claim from ignorance mostly. My point was that it's essentially the definition of the Dunning-Kruger concept that people with no frame of reference and low ability are the most confident and likely to overestimate their own abilities and not appreciate the intricacies and complexities of the "skill."

People with zero experience painting on canvas are generally the most critical, and their criticisms are almost always the least meaningful.

>>3703222

People with zero experience painting on canvas are generally the most critical, and their criticisms are almost always the least meaningful.

Patently untrue. Drawing, sculpting and painting mayhave their intricacies as mediums, but there are concepts that can be applied to all three.

A person who primarily sculpts may not be able to give pertinent criticism on, say, a painters use of color, but they can immediately identify mistakes in form and perspective.

You're better off listening to those folks than not.

>>3703250

> People with zero experience painting on canvas are generally the most critical, and their criticisms are almost always the least meaningful.

Forgot to greentext

>>3703250
>Patently untrue. Drawing, sculpting and painting mayhave their intricacies as mediums, but there are concepts that can be applied to all three.
duh. That's what we're talking about when we say "low ability." You understand enough about things related to the "skill" with no practical frame of reference. Like you can't relate with the struggles and weaknesses of acrylic paint or additives or layering or any of the minutiae of the medium. You don't even relate to using grids. It's like you've been snowboarding a few times and then have a real strong opinion about my skiing technique.
>A person who primarily sculpts may not be able to give pertinent criticism on, say, a painters use of color, but they can immediately identify mistakes in form and perspective.
sure. But that's generally not the nature of the shitposting. And even when it comes to goofs in "form and perspective" like I'm pretty much always aware of it, and I typically know where I goofed up. My focus then becomes what would need to be done to either recover on that meme or prevent it from happening again. I often like leaving the frustrating problems as a reminder for future me. Like sticking a head on a spike.
>You're better off listening to those folks than not.
Sure and I listen to everyone. Doesn't really change the reality that most the anons on this board are mostly just have experience drawing waifus on tablets and shit. The loudest most disingenuous poindexters that argue at me generally aren't producing shit.

>>3703125
> I don't really care if it is.

Okay, fair enough. You don't care about quality. Got it.

> You're just doing something that nobody thought to do.

No. You're doing something not many people are doing. Big difference, the reason not many people are doing this is because it is stupid.

> Blah blah blah

Wow that's a lot to unpack, you're the only one projecting here pal. And yes it is bad, and here is why. Your stuff is boring, the end.

>>3702755
>>3703179
yipes
>>3703345
>Okay, fair enough. You don't care about quality. Got it.
I mean the concept of "quality" is a pretty ambiguous and subject meme. Plus I was saying I don't really care if it's "ugly" according to some random anon. And even if we want to qualify what "quality" or "ugly" is, I'm making experimental memeschlock. And again this is a series about 4chan, a place that is famously perceived as being an "ugly" and "low-quality" place. It's grungy.
>No. You're doing something not many people are doing.
Got in on the ground floor.
>Big difference, the reason not many people are doing this is because it is stupid.
Everything is stupid. All art is trash. Time is entropy. Also define "stupid." There is a lot of demand for meme paintings and still very little supply. There's an ocean of oil underneath our feet.
>Wow that's a lot to unpack, you're the only one projecting here pal.
Again everyone is projecting pretty much constantly.
> And yes it is bad, and here is why.
shoulda used a colon
>Your stuff is boring, the end.
I enjoy it. Glad you're done though. You're just too stimulating for this thread. Too much excitement for this simple memesman.

>"quality" is ambiguous
wrong, your paintings would be of much higher quality if you knew how to draw a face or depict form
>lot of demand for meme paintings
lol

>>3703530
This is absolutely horrifying. SIckens me deeply.

>>3703539
>wrong
like this is the kind of shit I'm talking about. You've got an intro understanding of art and media history and psychology and sociology and stuff. Like OF COURSE "quality" is ambiguous. It's an entirely fabricated construct that we're applying to fancy trash we hang on the walls. Like we can discuss the standards by which "quality" is often determined, and the nature of subjective versus objective, and all those memes, but the fact that you just negate from the gut demonstrates that you're kind of useless.
>your paintings would be of much higher quality if you knew how to draw a face or depict form
I know how to draw a face. And I depict form constantly. You're such a basic memer.
>lol
there unambiguously is. Try harder lame brain.
>>3703546
take it all girl
https://youtu.be/OoA0cTC228M

>>3702003
That painting looks ugly. I am a total art newb, can't draw very well. But this painting is unpleasant to look at.

>>3703674
I agree. Looks like she's got a pox.

if you booze you looze

>>3704392
but muh withdrawals

your painting look really unappealing.

>>3704415
my bum's been withdrawaling rum mud all dang morning tbphwyf
>>3704428
yeah but it sounds great

what are some good youtube channels? I keep watching the same bozos over and over.

>>3699332
"chicken scratch" Jimmy, at it again.

>extremely self-content and proud of his autistic paintings
>wants others to kiss his ass
>doesn't get his ass kissed
>instead gets btfo on /v/
>comes to /ic/
>same shit happening
>too autistic and troubled to stop shitposting
>his "memeschlock" tbphwyf sperment to get her bing bang bong yada yada cool guy slang shit
>eats his own turds
>tortures his cat
>even kinda admitted to killing the cat he had before that one "by mistake"
>unable to do simple chores around the house, most of all cleaning that shithole

>gets banned for little more than a week
>/ic/ is back to order and the slow pace it always had
>ban expires
>shit starts all over again
>Jimmy "chicken scratch" memeschlock mock fockery is shitposting in every thread again
>shilling his flawed, obscenely bad, lazy, mannerist-amateurish paintings all over the place
>unrelated shitposting by Jimmy Hobo is back in full bloomage

my my, it seems like this board is a magnet for the wicked, the outlaws, the maniacs and self-proclaimed artists .... memeshit Jimmy, whigger Illastrat, Ching chong Chunbun (the greatest), Brian ... did I forget anyone?
Can you guys arrange to meet and produce a family photo for us?

>>3704502
you seem upset
>"chicken scratch" Jimmy, at it again.
hey lookit. Just scratched a space qt for an hour.
>extremely self-content and proud of his autistic paintings
idk about either of these. I'm "proud" of the effort. I hate most of the paintings.
>wants others to kiss his ass
no I like arguments and stuff
>doesn't get his ass kissed
lot of butthurt kids that don't like arguments and stuff
>instead gets btfo on /v/
I literally never post on /v/.
>same shit happening
kids'll create headcanon about me anywhere I guess.
>tortures his cat
pscht he started it
>even kinda admitted to killing the cat he had before that one "by mistake"
I have 2 cats. They're the only cats I've had. They eat expensive prescription food because Bogie is allergic to everything. What's up with all the headcanon?
>unable to do simple chores around the house, most of all cleaning that shithole
is this ratman? Post your living space.
>gets banned for little more than a week
no? I've had a one day ban and 2 3-day bans in the last 2 years. I've generally just started shitposting while I'm working. When I have other stuff going on I'm not here.
>/ic/ is back to order and the slow pace it always had
this is a negative for a website that relies on traffic to generate revenue.
>shit starts all over again
time is a flat circle.
>my my, it seems like this board is a magnet for the wicked, the outlaws, the maniacs and self-proclaimed artists
don't forget all the butthurt do-nothings like (you) that get really triggered by them.
>Can you guys arrange to meet and produce a family photo for us?
I'll be living out of muh car for a while next year driving around but I don't reckon that's something they'd really give a shit about doing.

>>3704608
and ironically all of the bans for silly shit. Got a 3-day for starting a draw this thread about pic related because it was "soliciting free work" or some shit. Got a one day for getting too political in an incel thread. And a 3-day in like August.

>>3703655
You can't even draw a face with a grid though. I mean imagine how bad you have to be at drawing to fuck up a face WITH A GRID.

>>3704622
>You can't even draw a face with a grid though
>>3703105
>>3703101
>>3703088
>>3702429
>pict related
these were all drawn without grids tho. Like you can see on pic related how her right eye is off a little but it's still unambiguously a face.
>I mean imagine how bad you have to be at drawing to fuck up a face WITH A GRID.
the face gets fucked up by the painting. The underdrawings are generally accurate. That's kind of the point of gridding btw. Like hand drawing on canvas takes more time and there's a much greater chance for human error, which you can't erase, and ultimately it's going to be covered in paint. It's a lot more of a "risk" when you use hand drawing to set the foundation that you build on with paint, and there's very little "reward" because ultimately you make a painting with the paint.

>>3704644
>these were all drawn without grids tho
Wow, and it sure does show Jimmy. More fundamentals for you, please.

>>3699345
You have no concept of form whatsoever. This is flat now and gonna be flat later

>>3704649
>Wow, and it sure does show Jimmy.
explain.
>More fundamentals for you, please.
elaborate.
>>3704650
>You have no concept of form whatsoever.
hyperbolic absolutes mean nothing. This shit screams that you don't really know a whole lot but you know that "form" is something to meme about.
>This is flat now and gonna be flat later
nothing is perfect,
and anything is better.
time is entropy.

>>3704655
>explain.
Have you ever seen a good drawing before? Like, ever? What you're posting looks like some middle school bullshit. I think your lack of exposure to actually good art is a big reason you have no idea how to produce it. Like a musician attempting to play jazz without ever having listened to jazz. It's noticeable.
>elaborate
Get good?

>>3704661
>Have you ever seen a good drawing before?
yeah
>Like, ever?
yeah
>What you're posting looks like some middle school bullshit.
ok. This isn't explaining how "it shows" that the pictures were hand drawn, or what that really means. Seems like you're just moving the goalposts from the first claim that I can't draw a face without a grid to a bunch of vague autism memes.
>I think your lack of exposure to actually good art is a big reason you have no idea how to produce it.
Well I mean I'm currently leaning into scratching and hatching when I draw. Been looking at crumb stuff recently. Not to mention that my whole drive isn't really about being able to replicate other people's styles. I did do a Goya meme last week though.

And who are some good artists that I should be looking at?

>Like a musician attempting to play jazz without ever having listened to jazz. It's noticeable.
None of this has to do with explaining what "it shows" means.
>Get good?
are you good? How'd you get good?

>>3704655
>hyperbolic absolutes mean nothing. This shit screams that you don't really know a whole lot but you know that "form" is something to meme about.
yeah keep calling criticism "hyperbolic" and hide being the wording. You've been told a hundred times by now that you fundamental skills are undeveloped and you rely way too much on crooks like grid, transfer and tracing. you are in denial.

>>3704644
you pretty much proved that you are t. Dunning Kruger with this post.

>>3702755
>>3703530
>>3703655
stacatto strokez 4 dayz boye

>yeah keep calling criticism "hyperbolic" and hide being the wording.
saying "you have no concept of form whatsoever" is a meaningless shitpost. There's no argument or concept that can be applied going forward. Hyperbolic absolutes are literally always cancer.
>You've been told a hundred times by now that you fundamental skills are undeveloped
And then I've asked a hundred time if (you)s can elaborate and it always just devolves into ad hominem memes. Like what specific aspect of le fundamentals do you think are "undeveloped?"

And even then, so what? The entire thing is about seeking a novel aesthetic through a sense of innovation from ignorance and subversion by leaning into doing things "wrong" and spiraling out. My goal hasn't been to adhere to "fundamental" standards since I stopped academically studying art when I was 18.
> and you rely way too much on crooks like grid, transfer and tracing. you are in denial.
Every notable painter used grids. And canvas transfer is a standard practice, and not being familiar with either of them means that you're actively refusing to further your education.
>you pretty much proved that you are t. Dunning Kruger with this post.
Except I'm not "overly confident" in my own abilities. And I've been painting for years now. And you're still not making an argument. Projecting meme labels is what you do when you're not capable of anything else.

>>3704849
>>3704712
forgot to give you your (You)

>>3704857
>he keeps posting this as if it's actually good
lmfao quit living in the past

>>3704859
I don't really think any of it is "good." Shadows are fucked for one thing. It's an example though of my "abilities" back when I gave a shit about hand drawing and muh fundamentals.

Like if you want to just say everything just isn't "good" and just be a pointless contrarian there's nothing to talk about. It's always this meme where (you) try to seek out some talking point, like "you use grids and you're not capable of drawing without them." And them I'm like "here look at all this stuff that wasn't done with a grid. Look at these sketches. Look at these paintings that didn't use a grid. Look at this pastel from 2006. I'm not incapable of hand drawing to canvas, and every painter uses grids." And then it just pivots to "well it just looks bad."
>lmfao quit living in the past
I'm pretty overwhelmingly future focused my guy. What have you produced today?

Part of me assumed when he was sober and not cramming a billion memepics and/or greentext shitposting replies he'd be less of an asshole. Maybe even able, willing or understanding of receiving criticism.

It's embarrassing to say that out loud, but part of me really was and is that foolish. Oh welp.

>>3704927
>Part of me assumed when he was sober and not cramming a billion memepics and/or greentext shitposting replies he'd be less of an asshole.
I was still doing that sober tho.
>Maybe even able, willing or understanding of receiving criticism.
Memeing about "fundamentals" and endlessly bitching about standard painting techniques isn't really valid "criticism."

Not to mention that I constantly try and do and apply things that people suggest. I get shit for not hand drawing enough. I start hand drawing more. I get shit for not doing it well enough.

Like when an anon says a generic meme like I have "no understanding of form" without being able to or just actively refusing to elaborate on what specifically they're talking about or how it could be done differently, like what do you want exactly that meets the standard of "willing or understanding of receiving criticism?"

Like if you just want to make vague, blanket absolutes that serve no purpose why shouldn't I be an "asshole" and seek to better understand what they're saying?
>It's embarrassing to say that out loud,
you're typing
>but part of me really was and is that foolish.
explain what you think I should do differently?

Your images are a lot like how I would start a portrait. If these are all on canvas then I'd urge you to go back to them and build up on the original paint as possibly they can be worked up into serious complete works. you've got the underpainting, now finish the rest. You'll be worth a fortune.

OP, take all your portraits, load them in photoshop, and open the curves editor. Look what that tells you. I just did your OP and almost every value is mid-range. You need to expand your value range, broseph. Get darker darks and lighter lights. When people say your drawings lack form, I believe this is what they mean. The illusion of form is hardly created with just midtones.

>>3704849
this is one of your best paintings

>>3705407
The best turd in a letrine, is still a turd

>>3699332
i like the veins but the teeth are shit and the eyes and mouth are too small or something.

>>3705121
>Your images are a lot like how I would start a portrait.
ooh yeah. Most of the things posted are generally like 1/3rds-2/3rds "finished." The original idea was that I would do the last part on camera for a weirdo video series.
>If these are all on canvas then I'd urge you to go back to them and build up on the original paint as possibly they can be worked up into serious complete works.
idk if I'll ever make it to "serious" works but yeah a big part of the "no selling originals until the race is over" thing is that I have like 6 more years to keep working on them and apply things and techniques that I've learned since, that I didn't know about or think of then.
>You'll be worth a fortune.
literally tens of dollars!
>>3705129
>OP, take all your portraits, load them in photoshop, and open the curves editor. Look what that tells you. I just did your OP and almost every value is mid-range. You need to expand your value range, broseph.
you right. Been obsessed with mixing everything with white this year so that's probably a major part of it. All the dark tones are getting tinted, then I've tended to phone in mid tones and then just quickly add highlights.
>When people say your drawings lack form, I believe this is what they mean. The illusion of form is hardly created with just midtones.
I can see that. I think what I was working on yesterday with >>3704849 was a better attempt than most.

gonst fuck this up

>>3705798
blamo. Didn't mix any white into the base layer.

>>3705798
>>3705868
sequel to pic related

>>3705868
Is this the absolute zero of artistic taste?

>>3705798
>>3705868
blue layer
>>3705910
what did she meme by this?

>>3705873
and pic related. which was ruined by matte gel and gesso and a bunch of other stuff

>>3705798
>>3705868
>>3705969
what bugs me the most about your little school project is that it's gotten boring right from the start.
you know, it's easy to see what kind of taste and preferences you have, when you choose something to copy. you are going for obscene, extreme facial expressions. there's an area where this is most welcome: advertisements. they love that shock factor and edge, because it annoys people. you can't look away, because you are naturally driven to find out why a person is making such an extreme face expression. and when you learn that there is nothing more to get, other than the frozen expression, you are left annoyed and want to look away.

your paintings aren't just badly executed. they are also inherently making everyone want to look away, for numerous reasons. i give the benefit of doubt that there actually are a few able, talented people on this board, as you seem to get all the right criticism from time to time (which you consequently deflect from or chose to ignore altogether ... "tl;dr" etc.)

so, here you have your amateurish approach that you try to justify as "deliberately bad" time and again. then you have the shock effect of the awful facial expressions. and to top it all off, your edgy, rotten persona. all in all, everything about your field day project screams: "look away, i'm an abomination".

surely, you will answer with another black/green rag rug wording between haphazard justifications and complete denial.
there is no progress in what you do, only repetition. and that repetition is full of mistakes, knowledge gaps and obstinacy. in fact, the only consistency in your work is stagnation.

sorry (not sorry)
leave /ic/

>>3705798
>>3705868
>>3705969
boy do I dislike this one

>>3706071
>what bugs me the most about your little school project is that it's gotten boring right from the start.
k
>you know, it's easy to see what kind of taste and preferences you have, when you choose something to copy.
yeah
>you are going for obscene, extreme facial expressions
generally yeah.
>there's an area where this is most welcome: advertisements. they love that shock factor and edge, because it annoys people.
are you autistic? Seeing people emote excites empathetic people to relate to the feels connected to those reactions. Makes them feel more.
>and when you learn that there is nothing more to get,
there's plenty more to get though.
>your paintings aren't just badly executed. they are also inherently making everyone want to look away,
making you write essays eben
> give the benefit of doubt that there actually are a few able, talented people on this board, as you seem to get all the right criticism from time to time
not from you though huh
>so, here you have your amateurish approach that you try to justify as "deliberately bad" time and again.
No I just do things wrong and embrace mistakes. wabi sabi brah.
>then you have the shock effect of the awful facial expressions. and to top it all off, your edgy, rotten persona
I'm your huckleberry.
>all in all, everything about your field day project screams: "look away, i'm an abomination".
Personally I prefer the term "berserksklovn demon."
>surely, you will answer with another black/green rag rug wording between haphazard justifications and complete denial.
you're not making an argument to need to deny. We're talking about your feelings.
>there is no progress in what you do
There is.
>only repetition
I do different shit constantly. Tried a different approach on pic related. not digging it.
>sorry (not sorry)
>>>>tumblr

>>3706134
>boy do I dislike this one
because it proves that you can only bash extreme facial expressions. when it comes to more subtle shit like that photo of dakota fanning whateverhernameis, you fail. what's sad about it is, it's not even that much more sublte than any of the obscene shit you select. just that tard bit more difficult to trace it right. then again, there are more examples of faces that you completely turned into zika virus versions of the original photo.

>>3706146
>because it proves that you can only bash extreme facial expressions
why would you think doing non-stressed facial expressions would be more difficult?

Also it's pretty much because I started bad, started to get something interesting going with the blues on top, then when I was doing pinks and yellows just kept piling on things that would need to be addressed with more layers and stuff. Lot of redundancies.
>when it comes to more subtle shit like that photo of dakota fanning whateverhernameis, you fail.
never done a dakota fanning. idk which one you're talking about. And normally the ones that "fail" are caused by goofing around and trying out stupid shit and getting stuck having to do stupid shit to the whole piece for continuity and stuff. Painting yourself into a corner type of jams.
>what's sad about it is, it's not even that much more sublte than any of the obscene shit you select
you've got a weird understanding of sadness.
> just that tard bit more difficult to trace it right.
Most of them are grids meow. Pict related was hand drawn and it's not an "obscene" expression. Bit subtle.
>then again, there are more examples of faces that you completely turned into zika virus versions of the original photo.
sure. particularly in the earlier stages normally. You generally want to paint over the lines at first and then when you're stacking another round of background and/or shadows you shave it back down and stuff. Thing I run into, particularly on the OP, is that get blow the guidelines and then don't think about it until way later.

But why you so upset? Have you produced anything today?

>>3706174
>because I started bad, started to get something interesting going with the blues on top
you know why you suck at it? because you use grids and then you color it in like a toddler.

>>3706201
>you know why you suck at it?
at what? that painting? I have a few ideas about why that one is a goof. For one thing, it was kind of always doomed to be a goof off painting. Like I was pretty enthused and almost even satisfied with the efforts I made yesterday on >>3704849 and >>3705093 , and instead of taking the self-destructive impulse that follows any sense of contentment and applying it to them or one of the other paintings that still have potential, I set out to work on one "wrong" on a fresh canvas to minimize the damage. A bunch of them are or started as blow-off goofs after I did something I was excited about. They're the afterbirth of better efforts.
>because you use grids and then you color it in like a toddler.
Yeah and of course you're only capable of falling back onto the same meaningless autism. Like do you disqualify painters like Van Gogh and Rembrandt for using grids?

Like it's so clear that you have zero experience painting and no meaningful depth of knowledge when it comes to art history or theory or anything other than the most basic intro-to-drawing memes, and then at the same time you've got all these strong opinions that you choose to express through hostility. Why do you think you do this?

>>3706201
and reminder that ITT, haters are going to die of cancer. You're fucked kiddo. I bet it's brain cancer.

>>3706256
>Like do you disqualify painters like Van Gogh and Rembrandt for using grids?
seriously, if i read you excusing your autistic use of copying photos with grids and comparing it to the use of van gogh one more time, i will shit down the internets.

yes, van gogh used grids. but you know how he used them? he made a frame with strings to look through into the landscape. he was drawing outside, right in front of what he had chosen to draw. he stylized and abstracted elements in the landscape in a way that he saw fit to make a point or find the essence of a given motif.
you sit at home and you print stupid celebrity photos, completely stagnating and redundant, that you try hard (and fail) to copy and color in like a toddler. can you see the difference?
you are not "racing van gogh", you are ridiculing him with every time you mention his name.

>>3706265

>>3706256
>copy-paste mindset
>has absolutely no fucking clue how to mix colors or layer them
>it shows
>oh, how it shows
>must somehow try to delegitimize other anons critique
>"Like it's so clear that you have zero experience painting and no meaningful depth of knowledge when it comes to art history or theory or anything other than the most basic intro-to-drawing memes, and then at the same time you've got all these strong opinions that you choose to express through hostility. Why do you think you do this?"
mfw

>>3706368
>>"Like it's so clear that you have zero experience painting and no meaningful depth of knowledge when it comes to art history or theory or anything other than the most basic intro-to-drawing memes
This is extra funny coming from a guy who shits out intro-to-philosophy syllogisms to explain why his art is so bad

>>3706348
>seriously, if i read you excusing your autistic use of copying photos with grids and comparing it to the use of van gogh one more time, i will shit down the internets.
do it nerd.
>yes, van gogh used grids.
not just "used grids." He carried a giant gridded window frame around with him like a lunatic autist.
>but you know how he used them? he made a frame with strings to look through into the landscape.
yeah that's crazy.
>he was drawing outside, right in front of what he had chosen to draw.
and he was only comfortable when he was using a literal framing device.
>he stylized and abstracted elements in the landscape in a way that he saw fit to make a point or find the essence of a given motif.
yeah. And like I use stacatto strokes when it's a meme about mania or death or anxiety. I use schmeary strokes and don't focus on details if I'm doing a depression meme. I like leaving parts of the canvas exposed, I like leaving things frustratingly undone. I use experimental and psychadelic layering on memes related to heavy concepts and conspiracies and drugs and stuff. There is a pretty thorough emphasis on motifs and abstracted elements that recur in different paintings intentionally to build a narrative and a sense of "language" that ties the whole gestalt together. Like these are things that I very actively circlejerk about. What's your argument?
>you sit at home and you print stupid celebrity photos
peasant paintings my guy
>completely stagnating and redundant
they aren't. Almost every one is an attempt at a different expression as well as an attempt at different color theory and brush style and stuff. Are you projecting? Would you say you're not stagnating?
>hat you try hard (and fail) to copy and color in like a toddler.
Eh I pretty actively use weird colors constantly. And I like how you essentially just hate the fundamental concept of painting and you're taking that out on me for some reason. It's all just uppity kids' shit.

>>3706407
>not just "used grids." He carried a giant gridded window frame around with him like a lunatic autist.
oh, thanks for reiterating that! it's almost like i didn't mention it in this post here >>3706348
>he made a frame with strings to look through into the landscape. he was drawing outside, right in front of what he had chosen to draw.

how can a single person be in so much denial

>>3706348
> can you see the difference?
Sure. That hipster fuck didn't even have a computer. Just lived in the country making ugly paintings of poor people for like 5 years.
>you are not "racing van gogh"
Yes I am. idk if you're confused. You generally seem pretty confused.
>you are ridiculing him with every time you mention his name.
Sure. I'm ridiculing you too. It's all a joke. Existence is a goof. You're just too sensitive and stupid to be able to appreciate it. You're the reason you're not going to make it.
>>3706363
that one was hand drawn though. And it's 3 colors on exposed canvas. Weird choice of painting ITT to meme on as a paint by numbers.
>>3706368
>copy-paste mindset
you copy-paste the shit you bitch at me about every time we interact. You have the mindset of a kid that doesn't know anything and refuses to act in good faith because you have underlying personal issues.

>>3706411
>oh, thanks for reiterating that! it's almost like i didn't mention it in this post here
I responded to it in that post. I respond to everything you say. You choose one thing from what I say and ignore everything else because you don't act in good faith. You choose to be a bad person. And you're going to die of cancer.
>>3706419
Denial of what exactly? Are you maybe projecting?

>>3706430
you are the epitome of the postmodern self-therapy-painting maggot.
breaking the rules before you even understood them. hiding behind a thin wall of theory (wabi sabi shit). unable to cope with any given criticism, treasuring your product like a toddler saying goodbye to his own turds.

>>3706407
>as well as an attempt at different color theory and brush style and stuff.
how we laughed

>>3706442
>you are the epitome of the postmodern self-therapy-painting maggot.
you have a diangosable mental illness and you believe stupid, self-destructive shit that is making your life worse. And for some reason your cognitive dissonance about yourself gets focused at me because I don't believe the stupid self-destructive shit you do and I'm not bothered by the meaningless handicaps you give yourself to justify why you're a shiftless know-nothing.
>breaking the rules before you even understood them.
Which rules don't I understand? Why are you so incapable of actually maintaining a consistent or meaningful argument for more than one post? You have nothing to say but you feel like yelling. Like talking to jello made out of piss with you.
>hiding behind a thin wall of theory (wabi sabi shit).
I'm not the anonymous shit talker with a bone to pick. I'm not hiding anything. The reason I appreciate the concept of wabi sabi and encourage you /beg/ kids to attempt to appreciate it is that it does absolutely alleviate a lot of the anxiety that people may have about getting into painting. It's meditative and reflective and puts you more in touch with the nature of existence. It's a top tier meme.
>unable to cope with any given criticism
What actual criticism have you given? You've called me a bunch of meanie words and made it clear that you're only interested in attacking me personally. You repeated grids memes a bunch. Failed to explain how that has any bearing though. Refused to acknowledge that I've done like 40 paintings that weren't grids. Which is almost certainly 40 paintings more than you've done.
>treasuring your product like a toddler saying goodbye to his own turds.
I don't think you understand my work flow.
>how we laughed
So which one are (you)? I feel like it's Ratface that always does the "how we laughed" meme because you don't really understand English and you have a limited vocabulary.

>>3706460
>It's meditative and reflective and puts you more in touch with the nature of existence.
self-therapeutic painting. with low to no chance of appeal to an outside person.

>What actual criticism have you given?
you are in denial of any given criticism. you say it over and over again. do you really need to be reminded how you turn every mistake, every wrong mix of colors, the black outlines, into a deliberate "phase" in your school project?

>you repeated grids memes a bunch. Failed to explain how that has any bearing though.
how about you are the best example to show people that relying too much on visual aids and cheating is going to make you stagnate and never improve? with your grid method, you could be braindead and still get this shit done all the same. your griding of meme faces is a visual enema. that miniscule amount of variation you introduce by applying dots of color while maintaining your flawed color mixing can't distract from that stagnation.
you have a poor sense for contrast and people told you a million times. weight distribution of light and shadow in literally all faces is like a Gorbachov style pigment failure times 100.

what really grinds my gears is how stubborn, and proud you are about your kindergarten paintings. you bend over backwards to fend off every kind of reasoning and look at the first post in this thread: you get shit for it so consistently that you feel you need to take it away that "haters" (people bringing up legit criticism) are going to be in this thread and you wish that wouldn't be so. all you want is compliments, ass-kissing from /beg/ teenagers that don't know how to hold a brush, which is why you have the audacity to go into /beg/ threads, giving out advice on "how to start painting" - a copy-paste loser like you, giving other people advice. oh man.

>>3701890
this post alone has told Jimmy chickenscratch Memeshit all he needs to know on how to improve his godawful grid-dependent skills. but no-oh, not with Jimmy! he don't roll that way. better stay in denial, start a thread with ten consecutive posts of shilling his meme copies, proving once again that stagnation and repetition are his best assets.

>>3706483
>self-therapeutic painting
yeah you should very unironically give it a gogh. You have all this pent up frustration that you need to project. Why not do it at a canvas instead of an imageboard?
>with low to no chance of appeal to an outside person.
A: you lack basic empathy
B: there are billions of people. Anything has a potential demographic. You shouldn't let this kind a self-defeating anxiety control you.

>do you really need to be reminded how you turn every mistake, every wrong mix of colors, the black outlines, into a deliberate "phase" in your school project?
why would I need to be reminded it's constantly reflected in all the shit I do. And I'm not getting an academic receipt for this shit.
>how about you are the best example to show people that relying too much on visual aids and cheating is going to make you stagnate and never improve?
And then when I don't rely on them what exactly is the argument?

And like let's say I wanted to do a mural or something that's like 8'x10' or bigger? Would you hand draw that?

>with your grid method, you could be braindead and still get this shit done all the same.
Yeah I started a left handed meme about that. You're doing the whole intro-to-art conversation btw. When you say, "anyone could do that." The response is, "well they should have."

> your griding of meme faces is a visual enema
and you're upset because that's still more than you can do? Your impotent ranting about my memes is the only art you're probably capable of producing at all.

>that miniscule amount of variation you introduce by applying dots of color while maintaining your flawed color mixing can't distract from that stagnation.
could do a bingo card for your endless stagnation projection talking point. Like how frustrated are you about your own progress that "stagnation" is your go-to meme?
>you have a poor sense for contrast and people told you a million times
Yeah and I've generally agreed.

>>3706483

> weight distribution of light and shadow in literally all faces is like a Gorbachov style pigment failure times 100.
Gorbachev? Seems like more of a Chunbun relevant thing.

>what really grinds my gears is how stubborn, and proud you are about your kindergarten paintings.
Yeah because you're malleable and weak and you don't do anything, and it bothers you that other people aren't crippled by your autism. Kill your self you uppity retard.

>you bend over backwards to fend off every kind of reasoning and look at the first post in this thread
nigger you're not using "reasoning." You're seeking out any means to nitpick and talk shit because you have a clear personal or emotional agenda that is motivating everything you do (or don't do).

>you get shit for it so consistently that you feel you need to take it away that "haters"
You're a "hater." You don't have any intention to act or engage in an intellectually honest or empathetic way. You're a bad faith cunt and an unambiguous scumbag and you're going to die of cancer.

>(people bringing up legit criticism)
you hysterically reeeing about grid transferring is not legit criticism. You can barely even read if you wanted to, and you choose not to regardless.

>are going to be in this thread and you wish that wouldn't be so.
I'm here for you bb. I know you can't read so you'll never understand this but your virginal buttblasted angst is my muse.
>all you want is compliments
nope. don't even know what to do with compliments.
> which is why you have the audacity to go into /beg/ threads
yep. And you're a gatekeeping coward that has the audacity to do nothing and act like a faggot at people that do. Cry more m80.
>a copy-paste loser like you, giving other people advice. oh man.
Making a whole instructional video series. And if you don't care about me you can just ignore it? This idea that everything I do gets you so upset just means that you're pathetic and you don't have control of your life.

>>3706514
>this post alone has told Jimmy chickenscratch Memeshit all he needs to know on how to improve his godawful grid-dependent skills. but no-oh, not with Jimmy! he don't roll that way.
you're so upset! And why really?

Like seeing you flipping out like this is all the positive reinforcement I need to continue doing my thing. You're annoying and hysterical and emotional and you have all these belligerent dogmatic views against basic elements of artistic production. The idea that what I'm doing pisses you off THIS MUCH is fantastic to me. Way more satisfying than any fucking compliment I could ever get. You're giving me so much power!
>better stay in denial,
What am I in denial about again? Seems like you're just offended that I value work itself more than outcome, while you obsess about outcome and never work.
>proving once again that stagnation and repetition are his best assets.
I mean it's good to have assets at all. Even if we really want to bother qualifying "stagnation and repetition" and then even if we wanted to talk about why you think these things are inherently bad, I still have plenty of evidence of attempts to do new things. I try new things constantly.

You're only really stagnating when you're not producing anything by my standards.

Work on something of your own today or you're going to develop early-onset dementia within 5 years.

>>3706638
>Like seeing you flipping out like this is all the positive reinforcement I need to continue doing my thing. You're annoying and hysterical and emotional and you have all these belligerent dogmatic views against basic elements of artistic production. The idea that what I'm doing pisses you off THIS MUCH is fantastic to me. Way more satisfying than any fucking compliment I could ever get. You're giving me so much power!
eat shitn die, besh

Stop bothering the good people of this board, jim. We have it bad enough.

>>3706134
>"there's plenty more to get though."
>[audience getting out of their seats]
>"did you hear about my connection to van gogh the famous painter?"
>[audience is leaving]
>"I'm racing the guy lol!"
>"p-please wait just drop some acid and let me play this tool song, it explains everything..."
>[last audience member closes the door behind him]
>"You're missing out on some seriously meta ironic crazyness!"
>takes drugs to escape reality

>>3706770
>gets super upset about how bad at art and lazy you are
>act like a sniveling faggot anonymously at strangers
>get cancer
>die
you_irl

>>3706770
this is most accurate

>>3707277
please, seek help or die already

>>3707300
>>3707303
>>3706770
samefag.

leave this thread and never talk to me or my memes ever again. Be less of a cancerous buttblasted loser and quit making it my fault that you're not going to make it.

You are going to die of cancer now. Your fate is sealed. You did it to yourself. You won't be missed.

starting paintings is fun. finishing them is the lame part

>>3706348
what is really that difficult about this though? Particularly when he was looking at this exact scene through a gridded frame mounted in front of him.

Like what about this drawing makes it good or special? Couldn't most people be able to do this if they wanted to?

how can something look this unappealing

>>3709314
practice practice practice

>>3709636

>>3706134
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOmqRi-BqbA

>>3710209
interesting
>>3710270
confusing

>>3710270
nice goatee

>>3710450
giving grils facial hair and mania eyes when I get annoyed is becoming a thing maybe

>>3703681

pretty much op is posting here.

maybe 10 others not including me.

op is funny and maybe a little crazy.

>>3705093
>>3710780

https://youtu.be/HcEc8zeNYxI

>>3706256
https://youtu.be/OoA0cTC228M

>>3710805
get it.

what because of the star wars sequels being an afterbirth of better efforts, what with the original trilogy being the better effort. And also what cause the painting itself being an example of muh concept of having a goof off canvas for when you have extra paint and want to unwind or fuck with future you or whatever.

>>3710814
>>3710805
>afterbirth of better efforts

do you see

>>3710805
>>3710814
>>3710818
>an afterbirth of better efforts

do
you
see

>>3699332
Heres my honest critique, and this is coming from someone who is into contemporary art (not anime commission shit):

Don't be quick to dismiss criticisms of 'ugliness' in your work. Your work isn't that unique or ahead of its time.

Your works looks heavily inspired by van gogh, but what van goghs works have (which yours need more of) is a sense of seamless flow between the brushstrokes, the forms, the figure and the background. The brushstrokes and colours seem to grow harmoniously outwards, achieving an interior / exterior harmony which makes his works resonate. Many of your works however, look like a 'van-gogh-filter' that has been applied on top of an image (as oppose to a sense of movement growing within the image). The formal components of your paintings feel disjunctive and imbalanced, it makes some of your stylistic decisions look like either mistakes, or contrived attempts to 'jazz up' up a subject.

>>3707933
the flu is almost certainly inside of my body right now
https://youtu.be/V5YOhcAof8I

>>3710826
I think I agree with everything you sang. Other major influences for the things I'm spiraling into currently for the end of year 2 are like Lichtenstein plus neo-impressionism pointilism, plus the imagery for the music video for the song "when you die" by MGMT, plus cross hatching colors, and some other bullshit. Like I'm kind of starting to spiral into approaching his style. I could see a fitting end to this first act would be failing to finish muh peasant painters spoof.

Like I'm trying to jump the gun and gonst crash and burn before I finish the actual goal.

But yeah I was thinking about what you're talking about all die while working on all this stacatto strokes stuff today.

I'm thinking I'm going to flee to yurp in January and go back to the Van Gogh museum 2 years later so I can get inspfired and humbled and whatever.

>>3702436
This is probably your best one

>>3710820
>>3710818
>>3710814
>>3710805
so what you're saying is always have a Daisy Ridley canvas around to ruin.

what should I do to this one? Should it be a gogh strokes meme or more like something like >>3703102 that is kind of smoother, blended layering on the face and spastic lazy strokes on the rest. idk about trying to make it look super realistic.

>>3710905
good to know
>>3711167
chyeah doy. Rembrandt was the first artist to always have Daisy Ridley throwaway canvasses around. I'm just following that grand tradition.

>>3710777
>wanted to do reds and pinks
>added violet to the palette
>mixed into everything
oof

>>3711426
>perfectly primed to do a normal painting
>get out a detailing brush to touch up the eyes
tfw 1 hour later

Most of them look unfunny and unappealing. Keep making these threads though, makes it easy to bust out the image MD5 filter.

>>3711621
\eyes r dum
>>3711632
go on

>>3711621 (You)
\eyes r dum
>>3711632
go on

Jesus christ these threads are 95% illustrat and 5% everyone else.

Dude is he that insicure? I usually ignore him but fuck me, he really wants attention. Very sad considering he only gets attention on /ic.

>>3711809
>illustrat
im jimmy tho

>>3711819
same shit different skin color

>>3712460
>same shit
1/3rd finished paintings?
>different skin color
yeah I put down blues first and build skin tones on top. What should Ido to that guy for the second 2/3rds of work?

Oh you mean different skin color between illastrat and muah. Not really. He proudly doesn't use grids. And his subject matter and painting technique are pretty different. Plus he uses oil generally.

thinking of how to do a weekly production schedule for promoting and producing content for social media and youtube and shit. That's a primary focus for year 3/beginning of act 2.

Essentially I think a good way to schedule it would be to basically jack the SNL production schedule in a way. But not really. Basically spend tuesday and wednesday painting, thursday editing and writing, friday shooting host oc, spend the weekend editing, release video on monday, promote it, solicit new ideas, repeat.

>>3712745
Lol jesus

>>3712771
I think this schedule would likely be successful for anyone. Posting on monday morning or early afternoon is like the ideal time to get pulled into the YouTube algorithm right as traffic is increasing as kids get off of school and office people get bored and stuff. Then it has all week for bored people to potentially click on it. Best day to post. So then you want to build your production schedule around that.

And then for things like instagram and twitter and facebook you need to be regularly posting content to maintain growth and keep yourself bumped in their algorithms. Plus top of mind awareness cultivates more interest over time and it starts to compound generally.

Like regardless of content you can typically grow any channel or account just by scheduled and consistent posting. Like if you're some /beg/ nerd that draws embarrassing dogshit, but you just consistently posted everything you'd still be able to grow an audience. It doesn't matter.

Plus there's the whole cognitive-behavioral meme where if I just get into the habit of a weekly production schedule, I'm getting closer to the ability to actually produce interesting shit than not.

>>3712745
You paint memes, jimmy. You either continue or you stop, there is no need for a 20+ plan.

>>3712803
yeah but a lot of the motivation for the next few years now is to get into the pattern of behavior where I don't just paint memes, but I actively shill them on socials by focusing on producing video content related to them. Like taking the bit idea I used to do in college, of a desperate addict hysterically trying to sell a retarded product and spiraling into insanity. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMOvfSyKRH8

But more focused and less belligerent and more subtle and a lot more of a QVC vibe mixed with Bob Ross mixed with T&EASGJ editing and whatever.

Like the next thing I'm supposed to focus on for year 3 is producing idk at least 25 videos. Which would be like every other week. But maybe try and actually get like 50 videos or whatever. Just need to have a minimum that I do regardless of anything else. Then if I meet the minimum and fucking hate it or want to focus on some other shit, at least I met the goal.

Like painting maymays is one thing, but turning them into memes themselves and promoting and marketing them and selling prints is the means to build an audience, generate revenue, etc. It's the next rational step.

>>3713103
and I meant hysterically as in in a state of hysterics, not as in super duper funny.

>>3712745
you've been talking about this for years. Just do it faget

>>3712745

>>3712745
>>3714094

>>3714097
>how to paint entropy
>how to wabi sabi
Literal smoke and mirrors. You paint memes. It's a sure sign of lack of substance when people start dragging in 50 philosophical concepts to "explain" why their work means something. You paint fucking memes.

>>3714237
>how to paint entropy
The concept of time being entropy has been something I've been obsessed about since like 2013. It's a fundamental meme underlying the whole motivation to film everything on time lapse and continue working on things months and years later and stuff. How to paint entropy is one of the biggest episodes.
>how to wabi sabi
And wabi sabi is something I've been obsessed about since 1999. It fundamentally altered my understanding of aesthetics and artistic production and "perfectionism" and everything else. I'd consider it one of the most important concepts for people to learn to understand and appreciate, whether they're aspiring artists or just people thinking about life.
>You paint memes.
Yeah
>an element of a culture or system of behavior that may be considered to be passed from one individual to another by nongenetic means, especially imitation.
memes are pretty heavy concepts.
> It's a sure sign of lack of substance when people start dragging in 50 philosophical concepts to "explain" why their work means something.
Eh the paintings are props. Concepts like wabi sabi and entropy mean something regardless.
>You paint fucking memes.
I feel like you don't fully appreciate or understand the memetic sciences.

>>3710638
eh kinda made it worse

OP is like one of those housewives that gets into a pyramid marketing scam and buys a shit ton of product and has to convince herself every day that they aren't morons who hitched their wagon to the wrong star

>>3714447
this
>>3714288
>entropy has been something I've been obsessed about since like 2013
you explain absolutely nothing about what how entropy relates to your meme paintings.
>wabi sabi is something I've been obsessed about since 1999
same thing. not a word about how it relates to your paintings.

please explain in plain english. Let's see your ability to communicate your ideas understandably with as few words as possible.

>>3714543
>you explain absolutely nothing about what how entropy relates to your meme paintings.
I've talked a lot about it. Got a whole episode planned about it.
>same thing. not a word about how it relates to your paintings.
sure it does. imperfection, impermanence, transience, emptiness, all those memes are and have been underlying ideas behind all this shit. You negate this but based on what?

>please explain in plain english.
The concept of wabi sabi and the awareness that time is entropy?

Like our understanding of time is based entirely around our planet revolving around the sun in an entropic system. When you approach history and the scope of human existence as this explosion of expended waste stacked on top of waste that we assign meaning to retroactively, idk it kind of changes what "life" means. It's grounding and helps to make you more aware of the limitations of the species, and the normative approach that we take when defining things idk. This is a pretty fun concept to deep dive into. You take the entropy concept and apply it to human effort through spacetime and build the idea of capturing that on canvas and video and stuff.

And idk about "as few words as possible" we're talking about 10-30 minute video rants. There are a lot of bullet points and ideas to get outlined between meow and when we get cameras cracking.
>>3714447
yeah exactly. That's a lot of the bit for video series idea. I pretty much explained it >>3713103

>>3714594
you should find a girl and paint her boobs

>>3714594
>our understanding of time is based entirely around our planet revolving around the sun
Our calendar is based on this.
>When you approach history and the scope of human existence as this explosion of expended waste stacked on top of waste that we assign meaning to retroactively, idk it kind of changes what "life" means.
dude, life... [exhales smoke]
>take the entropy concept and apply it to human effort through spacetime and build the idea of capturing that on canvas and video and stuff.
again, I'm still wondering HOW and WHY you would do that.

Once again you have said absolutely nothing of value. "life is absurd man, we're literally on a floating rock" This seem to be your whole message. You are a ridiculous stereotype.

I'm still waiting for you to explain literally anything about how and why paintings memes are a means to communicate something profound about entropy and "wabi sabi". A sho explanation in plain english. If you need a 30 minute youtube rant, you are full of shit.

keep it up jimmy! fight the entropy rah rah

>>3714607
>Our calendar is based on this.
yeah and our days and minutes and seconds. Our entire appreciation of the concept of time is built around our relative location in space. Time is entropy. History is evident waste.
>dude, life... [exhales smoke]
You fucking asked kiddo. Being an uppity faggot about how you're boring and uneducated isn't an argument.
>again, I'm still wondering HOW and WHY you would do that.
I mean HOW you paint is a pretty broad concept. And WHY would you do literally anything? Why not just hang yourself in the closet right now?
>Once again you have said absolutely nothing of value.
Well you seem like a useless retard that can't engage in an honest or rational way. So why would I care about your appreciation of relative value?
> "life is absurd man, we're literally on a floating rock"
Do you disagree?
>This seem to be your whole message.
It's the foundation of it. Need to establish the basics first. The whole endeavor of absurdism is to try and seek out HOW to find meaning in a meaningless existence.
>You are a ridiculous stereotype.
Why? Why can't you just address things instead of whatabouting to strawmanning and stereotyping? If it's because you have religion or something just be honest about it.
>I'm still waiting for you to explain literally anything about how and why paintings memes are a means to communicate something profound about entropy and "wabi sabi".
anything can be a means to do that. Everything is.

As for you "waiting." You just negate and deflect and talk shit. You don't advance anything for us to talk about. There is a failure of communication on your end and I doubt there's much that I can do to change this.
>A sho explanation in plain english.
Do I need to define the concepts for you? Like that'd be done in the episode but I'm assuming you've at least glanced at the wiki at some point. What are you struggling with? Help me help you.

>>3714629
If I read the phrase "time is entropy" one more time I swear to god I'm going to a different thread

>>3714629
>There is a failure of communication on your end and I doubt there's much that I can do to change this.
You are the artist here. I'm telling you I am willing to listen to your thoughts, but you are unable to explain your ideas. I'm left with badly painted memes and a guy throwing meaningless concepts around. Frankly, I lost interest. [unsubscribes]

>>3714632
>If I read the phrase "time is entropy" one more time I swear to god I'm going to a different thread
This is a good way to explore how time IS entropy. AND it's a good way to explore how time being entropy is connected to memetics. Brings in psychology concepts like the Baader Meinhoff phenomena and cocktail party effect and all kinds of relevant stuff. You see something once, it may not mean anything. But when you see it over and over your pattern-seeking mind starts to focus on it and then every time it appears it becomes the only thing you see. This is exposure and conditioning and exploiting how our berry-picking ape brains were evolved to seek out patterns and continuity and stuff.

This is ALL connected to the entropic nature of existence. How we learn and how our instincts evolved is all the result of this complex repeating system that's been spanning millions of generations of ancestors eating and fucking and dying and learning and building on the things that came before.

And memetics is all about understanding and exploring how human ideas and behaviors propagate through time and space. And the idea of painting internet memes is all about capturing them in a traditional mediums "for historical preservation." As a joke! It's evidence of this cultural concept existing in a tangible medium, under the assumption that we're entering a historical dark age, where in like 400 years we probably won't have access to any of the media that only exists digitally right meow and going forward. Potentially entering a new dark age gnome sang.

Anyhoo tldr: time is entropy being annoying to you is a reflection that time is entropy. so is painting memes probably.

>>3714658
nice try but everyone knows time isn't entropy, it's mentropy, and men's rights matter as much as women's

>>3714641
>You are the artist here.
(You) are the subject.
> I'm telling you I am willing to listen to your thoughts, but you are unable to explain your ideas.
Yeah like I think in a dialogue. I need things to respond to like build an argument about it.

Like time is entropy. Entropy is waste. All art is waste. Internet memes are super waste. It's all garbage and none of it matters. The point is to use this as a roundabout way to motivate yourself to just make stuff without giving a shit.

And then with How to Wabi Sabi, that ties right into it. The whole "time is a flat circle" thing is super reflective of eastern and buddhist philosophy. Their entire appreciation of the world is much more about reflecting on the passage of time, the impermanence of things, the imperfection of nature, and all this stuff that is directly connected to all the entropy and time and waste memes.

Like the function of the episode, and most episodes, is to kind of define and explain these concepts, and then kind of subvert or misinterpret them in silly ways to kind of goof with the concept in ways that may still reflect it. Leaving paintings unfinished in jarring ways, following impulses as they arise and building over the mistakes like those clay pots that you break and repair and stuff. Bunch of things I do and have done as a wabi sabi related goof.

>>3714597
seems like a hassle tbphwyf. You should google some bubs and paint them. lot less steps imhotep.
>>3714659
pfft more like HERstory #caveartistsweregrils

>>3714672
>Entropy is waste. All art is waste. Internet memes are super waste. It's all garbage and none of it matters. The point is to use this as a roundabout way to motivate yourself to just make stuff without giving a shit.
Entropy is stagnation, I don't see how it is "waste". Like you are bringing some kind of value system into this, based on what?
You might want to incorporate nihilism into this, since you seem to be more interested in lack of meaning than the physical term "entropy". You might say there is entropy in experience, and a subsequent lack of meaning, but then you have to make that clear. How all this ties in with you painting memes is totally unclear.
>>3714658
the idea of painting internet memes is all about capturing them in a traditional mediums "for historical preservation." As a joke! It's evidence of this cultural concept existing in a tangible medium, under the assumption that we're entering a historical dark age, where in like 400 years we probably won't have access to any of the media that only exists digitally right meow and going forward.
okay, painting memes to preserve them for later generations, perhaps a "post-digital" age, is at least an idea. I'd give it a chuckle as a joke at a party/10. no more.

It's absolutely obvious that you are inhaling various fumes and philosophizing heavily on your own activity to make this whole "poject", but to an outside observer it doesn't have the same appeal. I kind of like the idea of producing physical work to survive the digital age. But I'd rather chisel some pepes into rocks or something than just paint memes and be stupid. make a time capsule or something at least, with memes and rick roll on lp etc.

>>3714672
>Entropy is waste. All art is waste. Internet memes are super waste. It's all garbage and none of it matters. The point is to use this as a roundabout way to motivate yourself to just make stuff without giving a shit.
Entropy is stagnation, I don't see how it is "waste". Like you are bringing some kind of value system into this, based on what?
You might want to incorporate nihilism into this, since you seem to be more interested in lack of meaning than the physical term "entropy". You might say there is entropy in experience, and a subsequent lack of meaning, but then you have to make that clear. How all this ties in with you painting memes is totally unclear.
>>3714658
>the idea of painting internet memes is all about capturing them in a traditional mediums "for historical preservation." As a joke! It's evidence of this cultural concept existing in a tangible medium, under the assumption that we're entering a historical dark age, where in like 400 years we probably won't have access to any of the media that only exists digitally right meow and going forward.
okay, painting memes to preserve them for later generations, perhaps a "post-digital" age, is at least an idea. I'd give it a chuckle as a joke at a party/10. no more.

It's absolutely obvious that you are inhaling various fumes and philosophizing heavily on your own activity to make this whole "poject", but to an outside observer it doesn't have the same appeal. I kind of like the idea of producing physical work to survive the digital age. But I'd rather chisel some pepes into rocks or something than just paint memes and be stupid. make a time capsule or something at least, with memes and rick roll on lp etc.

>>3714739
stop saying the word entropy like it means something

>>3714739
>Entropy is stagnation, I don't see how it is "waste". Like you are bringing some kind of value system into this, based on what?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Introduction_to_entropy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irreversible_process
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entropy_and_life
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entropy_and_life#Entropy_in_psychology
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entropy_(order_and_disorder)

stagnation has nothing to do with it. i don't really know what stagnation means to you.

>I don't see how it is "waste"
Like everything is happening right NOW as this explosion of energy and life being hurled through space. That's what the present is. Everything after right NOW is kind of waste.
>You might want to incorporate nihilism into this,
Absurdism is a reaction to nihilism. The whole point of camus' myth of sisyphus essay was like "ok, there's no objective meaning and nothing matters, what next?" And the conclusion is essentially that we just create the rocks we push up the hill. idk it's a good read.

>. You might say there is entropy in experience,
yes
>How all this ties in with you painting memes is totally unclear.
memes are part of communication and history and stuff.
>It's absolutely obvious that you are inhaling various fumes and philosophizing heavily on your own activity to make this whole "poject"
t square
>but to an outside observer it doesn't have the same appeal.
that's why it's gotta be aggressively marketed and entropied down everyone's throats.
>make a time capsule or something at least
me me im thinking bunker in the desert

>>3714759
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Introduction_to_entropy
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irreversible_process
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entropy_and_life
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entropy_and_life#Entropy_in_psychology
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entropy_(order_and_disorder)
you can't explain what entropy is, so you link five articles nobody is going to read. My understanding of entropy is that everything stops if left alone for long enough. it stagnates. it settles towards the least amount of movement or activity possible, like a clock that winds down. I might be wrong, but at least I can explain what I mean.
>Everything after right NOW is kind of waste.
still thinks there is anything before or after the present.
>The whole point of camus' myth of sisyphus essay was like "ok, there's no objective meaning and nothing matters, what next?" And the conclusion is essentially that we just create the rocks we push up the hill.
you paint memes. what the hell does this have to do with painting memes??

>>3714790
>you paint memes. what the hell does this have to do with painting memes??
kek. I love how it all comes back to he's bad at painting

>>3714790
>you can't explain what entropy is, so you link five articles nobody is going to read.
I mean I can't control what other people do. If you want to actively refuse to understand this concept, that's your decision.
>My understanding of entropy is that everything stops if left alone for long enough. it stagnates.
yeah that has nothing to do with entropy. Sounds more like you're talking about inertia. Like if you read the intro to entropy wiki or the wiki about entropy's relationship with order and disorder you'd be less confused.
> it settles towards the least amount of movement or activity possible, like a clock that winds down. I might be wrong, but at least I can explain what I mean.
Being able to explain "what you mean" when you're not talking about the right thing doesn't really matter. Like entropy is all about like heat dispersal and irreversibility and stuff. Like ice melting is entropy. You can never unmelt an ice cube back to what it was. Like a glass of ice water left on a table to melt is an entropic system. The earth spinning and freezing and thawing and all of this is an entropic system. Time is entropy!
>still thinks there is anything before or after the present.
Yeah there's evidence of what happened. That's the whole point of art. It still exists after a person disperses energy at it. It's evidence that you existed that may exist long after you're gone.
>you paint memes. what the hell does this have to do with painting memes??
We create the rocks we push up the hill. Painting maymays is the Sisyphean purpose I've embraced giving meaning to.
>>3714793
>kek. I love how it all comes back to he's bad at painting
Better than you'll ever be most likely. Post your work gurl. And of course you "love" it you uppity slut. You're also stupid and uneducated so anything that can pivot back to "lol ur paintings are dum" is going to get you clapping like a toddler. Read a book bozo.

tfw time is entropy

ayy tfw time is entropy

tfw wabi sabi brah

tfw how to start

tfw how to paint (you)

tfw thyme is entropy

tfw how to paint (you)
tfw how to shill

tfw time is entropy

>>3715272
Today a young man on acid realized that all matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration. That we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively. There is no such thing as death, life is only a dream, and we’re the imagination of ourselves.” -Bill Hicks

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>>3702003
You've improved a lot since the first time i saw the image on ic. I love the redraws, and you're doing plenty of new pieces too, but they are all suffering from the same issues. I know you don't want people just saying it looks wrong, but the fundamentals are based on reality, and the everyday joe can usually tell when something looks unrealistic. Basically im not the best at art and cant say where to improve, but you are doing the right thing by asking even if people sometimes cant say much more than "it looks wrong."
I recommend trying some different methods of drawing. You redraw over your old art, but the differences you make are very minimal and still lack the appeal of a nice rendering (well idk what your goals are but thats what i look for in art i would buy). Try some different subjects. like still life and bones and maybe some full body (dont have to be these just as example), more reference studies that are more about getting down the forms just using light and shadow and never any hard out lines or grids. I dont know for sure, but i feel like you you need to come back to your art with a new perspective especially on form and contrast. You get better at colour matching every time, but there are other things to work on. That being said your newer pieces look really good and i think you're heading in a good direction with your portraits, just keep trying and you'll get there.
Please don't over analyse my words, im a noob but i watched Mattias Philhede's video on critique and maybe my words can help in some way even if im not a pro and dont do art nearly as often as you.

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>>3715323
>Try some different subjects. like still life and bones and maybe some full body (dont have to be these just as example)
yeah I'm moving towards working on that stuff more. Definitely planning on doing some kind of skelly meme parallel with Van Gogh's smoking skelly.
>more reference studies that are more about getting down the forms just using light and shadow and never any hard out lines or grids
yeah next year and then year 4 are going to go more into that stuff. Definitely think I'll probably continue spiraling into stacking paint and using tons of layers, and then maybe hit a high water mark and then start working on minimalism and economy of strokez and everything. Like how pic related will be interpreted in year 4 will probably be about how to do capture it as simply as possible.

Thinking of doing a couple different still life spearments over next year. If I do manage to get some studio space or find a new place that I can do whatever in, I'm thinking of doing like a month of daily still lives of the same fruits as they rot. And like doing pen and watercolor drawings is something I'm finna get into. And construction and fabrication and stuff to build meme viewing machines and elaborate frames and meme projector guns and whatever.

appreciate your critique m80

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>>3715213
>Like if you read the intro to entropy wiki or the wiki about entropy's relationship with order and disorder you'd be less confused.
you obviously can't even begin to explain what you think entropy is, but I'll tie my stagnation theory into the order and disorder thing, as you have no chance of making such connections on your own.
I said entropy is stagnation. Like a clock winding down. All tension is released as much as possible. which would result in a state of "disorder" or balance. Energy disperses with time to seek balance, and eventually it stops. It stagnates.

put a bunch of paint on desk and dress gonst keep grinding
>>3715414
>you obviously can't even begin to explain what you think entropy is.
like most everything is in a constant of entropy.
>but I'll tie my stagnation theory into the order and disorder thing
but like what are you talking about with stagnation? What are you referring to?
>as you have no chance of making such connections on your own.
yeah because stagnation as a concept in thermodynamics or physics or whatever doesn't really have much to do with entropy.
>I said entropy is stagnation. Like a clock winding down. All tension is released as much as possible. which would result in a state of "disorder" or balance. Energy disperses with time to seek balance, and eventually it stops. It stagnates.
yeah I agree with the dissipation of energy thing and the idea that any system is heading towards an end, like "stagnation," and this is all true. We are slowly being pulled towards the sun. All growth eventually reaches a peak, and eventually drops off and dies, decomposes, releasing all that energy back into the system, etc. But like stagnation as a concept isn't really the same thing as entropy.

Could do an epinsode called how to paint stagnation tho. There can be "stagnation" within an entropic system but entropy =/= stagnation.

>>3715514
can you explain what entropy is?

>>3699332
>stop browsing this board for a year
>come back
>this anon is still here?
i guess the fags that talked about le dox couldnt faze you. you have my support bro

>>3699332
I actually don't hate this weird stippling thing you're doing, but I don't think you use it very effectively. People are right when they say that your pieces are flat, and this is because you're texturing them sort of aimlessly. This is probably why people shit on you, because it makes your pieces feel like you're covering for a lack of skill with texture.

You seem to have an idea of how light is hitting your subjects, but everything is sort of in the same vague midtone value range, like you're afraid of lighter areas. When you do use lighter areas, like >>3701991 , you use them kind of ...thoughtlessly, like youve suddenly forgotten how light works.

do some stuff based on really high contrast photos to better understand how to incorporate light into your texturing. Also maybe do some that focuses on the body, your comfort zone is very obvious and you should move away from it for a little bit.

>>3715576
energy dispersal, forward irreversibility that is generally expressed in a seemingly disordered or random way, and how this concept is expressed can be demonstrated in a lot of different areas of science and philosophy.

So then when we talking about things like relative location in space and history and human behavior and the concept of "life" there are a lot of different ways that the concept of time is little more than entropy as expressed through a number. Time is entropy.

>>3715653
a lot of the thing with the lack of highlights and dark tones being kind of midtones is that I've been mixing whites into the dark tones and most of them haven't gotten to the light tones yet. Like >>3701991 is kind of an example of one that I did some of the purples and blues, then got impatient and did a bunch of skin tones, planning on then going back with reds and highlights. But I haven't gotten around to it yet. Like >>3710638 and >>3710209 and >>3704849 are more recent efforts that were done in a less self-sabotaging way and they kind of have less of an autistic seeming sense of lighting and whatever.

like pict related is an example of one that needs a pass of reds yellows and highlights to be reasonable.
>>3715635
they aint no thang

>>3715664
Are these oil? you should try glazing to introduce depth, that way you get to keep your texture without spending 100,000 years going over the stippling to change area values. (I don't know much about acrylic but I assume it's also possible to glaze if you pick up some acrylic medium)

I meant it about your comfort zone though, I want to see you do high contrast stuff as a matter of self-discovery. How do you handle really large shifts in value, etc.

>>3715658
>energy dispersal, forward irreversibility
what is "forward irreversibility"? do you mean irreversibility?
> that is generally expressed in a seemingly disordered or random way
"seemingly"? who decides if it "seems" to be random or disordered?

>the concept of time is little more than entropy as expressed through a number
yeah, so "irreversibility that *might* sometimes appear to somebody to be disordered or random, take that and turn it into a number, you end up with time..."
yeah, I don't think you know what you're talking about.

>>3715700
>what is "forward irreversibility"? do you mean irreversibility?
yeah it's kind of redundant but the "forward" nature is pretty important. Are you nitpicking?
>seemingly"? who decides if it "seems" to be random or disordered?
That gets into the whole free will debate and a bunch of other stuff. Like quantum suicide and schrodinger all that stuff.
>yeah, I don't think you know what you're talking about.
It seems pretty clear that you don't. Guess I'll have to keep dumbing down. Like it seems like you're not really willing to understand the basic concept of what entropy is. You're hung up on this "stagnation" meme while you're not really capable of appreciating the complexity of these concepts that cause me to talk about how things "seem" when it comes to things like chaos and disorder.

Like what is your understanding of the concept of "free will" and do you think you have it?

>>3715674
>Are these oil?
all acrylic
>you should try glazing to introduce depth, that way you get to keep your texture without spending 100,000 years going over the stippling to change area values. (I don't know much about acrylic but I assume it's also possible to glaze if you pick up some acrylic medium)
yeah I've been slacking on the glazes and glazing. Haven't learned as much about how to properly apply them as I probably should have for this year.
>I meant it about your comfort zone though, I want to see you do high contrast stuff as a matter of self-discovery. How do you handle really large shifts in value, etc.
yeah im finna do more black and white memes and stuff.

>>3715674
like here's one that I did that started using blue tones and then I painted red tones on top to spearment with doing "one color" paintings to goof with values a little

>>3715803
first of all lets make it clear that the context here is you talking about free will and entropy when your project is about painting memes by numbers. everything you've said the last 5 posts sounds ridiculously inflated in this context.

and according to einstein himself you have no idea what you are talking about. I have given you a pretty clear explanation of my idea of entropy. you are just rambling pathetic attempts at "science speak".

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>>3716062
>first of all lets make it clear that the context here is you talking about free will and entropy when your project is about painting memes by numbers.
cry more bb. Stay triggered dipshit.
>everything you've said the last 5 posts sounds ridiculously inflated in this context.
perfect. I'm a fucking clown you uppity nitwit. Le goofy meme artist screaming about entropy and quantum suicide is the joke!
>I have given you a pretty clear explanation of my idea of entropy.
Yeah you more or less articulated what it is >>3715414, other than the whole stagnation thing. Like entropy increases or decreases, I don't get the obsession with "stagnation."
>you are just rambling pathetic attempts at "science speak".
Not really m8. There's a lot more "science speak" that we can dive into. Not to mention philosophy speak. We're talking about "how to paint entropy." How would you do this?

>>3716083
It's nothing that a good pair of bolt cutters cant fix.

>>3716533
> I'm a fucking clown you uppity nitwit. Le goofy meme artist screaming about entropy and quantum suicide is the joke!
the classic >I was just pretending to be retarded xD
nice

>>3716539
>the classic >I was just pretending to be retarded xD
yeah this entire thing is a performance meme. The irony is that you ITT are actively trying not to be retarded and you literally cannot help it.

eats poops ya hoser

>>3711797
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>>3716551
>yeah this entire thing is a performance meme. The irony is that you ITT are actively trying not to be retarded and you literally cannot help it.
le ironic distance to avoid accountability, the biggest meme of the decade. Even if I was retarded, I would still win by at least having a sincere opinion.

>>3716899
>le ironic distance to avoid accountability, the biggest meme of the decade.
This is a discussion about a youtube video about how to appreciate entropy as a motivational framework to paint memes. Like what the fuck are you talking about really? Like what specifically do you want?

Like I'm supposed to be entirely, unwaveringly sincere and unironic about how to talk about the concept of entropy in a comedy video?

Not to mention that I wasn't being ironic with the thing you greentexted. You seem really dumb and you're not capable of advancing the dialogue or anything other than nitpicking conversational word choice, and then acting offended when I call you retarded.
>Even if I was retarded, I would still win by at least having a sincere opinion.
I have a pretty sincere opinion about how time is entropy. You choose to engage with me about my ideas in a very disingenuous way, with no clear argument or objective other than negation, and you say you're "sincere?"

Like what the fuck are you sincere about here? What are you even saying? You highlighted one or two of 25 written down episode titles, said I'm an asshole for using philosophical concepts to justify painting memes, asked me to explain the concepts as simply as possible for you, and then negated and mumbled about "stagnation" and now you're accusing ME of "le ironic distance?" You've made ZERO positive claims. You've done nothing other than keep le ironic distance while zero-sum shitposting and bad reading comprehension.

Your mind has entropied into useless goop and thats why u eat poops

>>3716799
owie wowie

>>3716977
>using philosophical concepts to justify painting memes, asked me to explain the concepts as simply as possible for you
this was your explanation: "Like our understanding of time is based entirely around our planet revolving around the sun in an entropic system. When you approach history and the scope of human existence as this explosion of expended waste stacked on top of waste that we assign meaning to retroactively, idk it kind of changes what "life" means."
How is this not drug induced rambling that means literally nothing of value to a rational mind? It's so obvious that you are just loaded with [absurd feelings] from too much drug use and you're grasping at words and concepts you don't understand to try to verbalize your abstract feelings.

>>3717062
>How is this not drug induced rambling that means literally nothing of value to a rational mind?
I don't think you really have a rational mind or understand what rationality or logic really mean. If you want to get triggered by my use of the word "like" as a lazy writing goof and just make ad hominem memes instead of engaging with the concept, you're not really acting rationally.
>It's so obvious that you are just loaded with [absurd feelings] from too much drug use and you're grasping at words and concepts you don't understand to try to verbalize your abstract feelings.
Yeah all this ad hominem shit. You don't have a point, you're just attacking me. What don't I understand? Like is any talk about physics or existence or philosophy just "too druggy" for your sober adolescent mind to be able to engage with or what?

And like what exactly is your interest in the arts? Why are you here? Why are you such a lifestyle-obsessed uppity square? Why are you on 4chan virtue-signaling all this normie degeneracy at me?

>>3717089
>ad hominem
Your art project is drug induced ramblings.

>>3717089
your art project is drug induced ramblings.
>ad hominem

>>3714672
"All art ist waste"
No, it's not. Have you been to an art museum? Do you see waste hanging on the walls? Your stance is just nihilist bullshit, the type you find in highschool kids, trying to be Rastafarian. If you think in a large enough scale, literally anything becomes waste really. It's a dead-end argument.
You really do sound like the typical first-year art student who thinks they somehow by accident revolutionized painting as a conceptual media, talks to you for an hour straight, explaining how plastic waste kills us all, how Prada is a terrible company and we are all going to die ... while showing you a painting of a black girl and a white rose. tldr: you are a standard entry level idiot.

It's like kids running towards you, saying they "cooked some soup" and holding up a toy bucket with sand and water in it. What you rant on about with this "wabi sabi" shit shows absolutely nowhere in ANY of your paintings. You paint crass face expression memes, which is offputting at best.

"This is ALL connected to the entropic nature of existence."
Yeah just like a broken mug, a handful of dirt, bird shit on a shirt, an ice cream cone on the ground, a rotten old sculpture ...
any fucking stupid thing is literally essentially your "wabi sabi entropy" bullshit. anything. you concept is paperthin.

>>3715514
>We are slowly being pulled towards the sun.
that is downright bullshit, you know. you should pic up a book some time. if anything, the sun will grow and consume the planets in our solar system. we are not "pulled towards the sun", "bozzo".

>>3716533
>I don't get the obsession with "stagnation."
The anon weighting up stagnation with entropy in here is not me, but a few days ago, I was calling your work stagnant, in the literal sense of the word. You are not improving one bit, you just run down a script like late 90s computer virus. As you've said that you believe the "earth will eventually be pulled towards the sun", you've pretty much confirmed that you are a brainlet. Your interpretations of the words "entropy" and "wabi sabi" are idiosyncratically blown out of proportion. And seeing how upset you got with that other anon >>3716533, you clearly are at your wit's end and try to moshpit yourself out of here.

>>3717089
>trying to be a conceptual painter
>failing at being a conceptual painter

Here's quite a straight forward conceptual painting, by Luc Tuymans. It's a very thin and scarcely executed painting of the interior of a gas chamber and the only thing that reveals this is actually the title "gaskammer" (german). What Tuymans did here is he recreated the architecture of the space in a very reduced painterly fashion, which paradoxically makes this place look friendly with the warm colors used. He put an emphasis on the drain at the bottom and the gas outlets on the ceiling as well as the tiny door, that almost looks comically small in the painting. still, there is an odd shift and edge to the painting, which makes it look out of place.
summarizing: everything about this conceptual piece of a painting is consistent with the intentions. any painting is a commonplace that calls for debate and weighing one opinion up with another, as well as taste. but it can be stated that Tuymans was pretty clear about what he was getting at.

What are you getting at, Jimmy?
How does it show in your paintings? Like, literally point out to us where the "wabi sabi" is in one of your paintings. Where is that beloved entropy concept of yours?

All I see is shitty grimacing celebrities.

>>3717107
>>3717111
not an argument
>>3717184
>No, it's not.
yes it is. It is the evident outcome of human effort in spacetime. The production of it was when all the heat energy was expended and it's just future trash after that.
>Have you been to an art museum?
a bunch.
>Do you see waste hanging on the walls?
yeah. really well executed waste.
>your stance is just nihilist bullshit
absurdist
> If you think in a large enough scale, literally anything becomes waste really.
chyeh doy
>It's a dead-end argument.
no it's the beginning of it.
>You really do sound like the typical first-year art student
pfft this is the end of year 2 of the race.
>explaining how plastic waste kills us all
mfw acrylic only
>how Prada is a terrible company and we are all going to die
are they? and ARE WE NOT?!
>while showing you a painting of a black girl and a white rose. tldr: you are a standard entry level idiot.
the doctors said I was special tho
> What you rant on about with this "wabi sabi" shit shows absolutely nowhere in ANY of your paintings.
sure it does. The production approach itself is kind of designed around it.
>You paint crass face expression memes, which is offputting at best.
put you on tho
>Yeah just like a broken mug, a handful of dirt, bird shit on a shirt, an ice cream cone on the ground, a rotten old sculpture ...
any fucking stupid thing is literally essentially your "wabi sabi entropy" bullshit. anything.
EXACTLY! It's an approach to creative production that speaks to broader universal and existential truths.

Like when you look at the fundamental concepts in wabi sabi: impermanence, transience, imperfection, suffering, and emptiness. This is all entropy! Like we're talking about one of the 3 marks of existence of Buddhism right now. This isn't some unprecedented shit.

>>3717276
>sure it does. The production approach itself is kind of designed around it.
I urge you to approach someone who you've NOT been bombarding with your wabi sabi rant basic shit and ask them what they see in your painting.
Show me just one person that is going: "Oh, I get it! This is clearly the concept of wabi sabi and entropy, told in the media of painting!"
You are the loser who tries to apply meaning to this a posteriori.

>>3717232
>>3717283
Stagnation-anon here, this is exactly what I've been trying to say.

>>3717195
>that is downright bullshit, you know. you should pic up a book some time. if anything, the sun will grow and consume the planets in our solar system. we are not "pulled towards the sun", "bozzo".
What is happening when something orbits something with more mass in space, is it is constantly falling towards it. We are being pulled by the sun's gravity. You're right that it's not at a rate that really matters, but it's what is happening regardless
>>3717213
>The anon weighting up stagnation with entropy in here is not me, but a few days ago, I was calling your work stagnant, in the literal sense of the word
Yeah I was wondering if that was the same anon just endlessly obsessed with the word "stagnation." Maybe they got incepted by your autism.
>You are not improving one bit,
more than u tho huh. what have you worked on since last time you projected your issues at itt?
>you just run down a script like late 90s computer virus.
(you) response bot meme
can't wait til I get a bigger workspace and I actually build one.
>As you've said that you believe the "earth will eventually be pulled towards the sun",
Where did I say "eventually be pulled towards the sun?" We are CONSTANTLY being pulled towards the sun.

Said revolving around the sun in an entropic system >>3714594

I said "slowly being pulled towards the sun" >>3715514 which is similar but I never said "eventually."
>you've pretty much confirmed that you are a brainlet.
attack strawman, avoid argument, make ad hominem. You're going to die of cancer.
>Your interpretations of the words "entropy" and "wabi sabi" are idiosyncratically blown out of proportion.
Define them? Explain what you're thinking? Like pretend you're in class doing a worksheet and it says "show your work" or whatever

>you clearly are at your wit's end
eh. dealing with people that anonymously engage in bad faith is standard practice. You don't really have any ideas and devolved into samefagging. very normal of (you)

>>3715811
>yeah im finna do more black and white memes and stuff.

That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying you need to use your current stylistic quirks (ie. the stippling) in situations you wouldn't typically use them, in order to understand why you are using them.
>>3715814
this is actually exactly what I mean when I say you are forgetting how value works the moment you introduce your stippling into pieces. (you could stand to have some lighter values in a couple places here though, ie the tip of the nose, or to bring down the color of the teeth)

>>3717292
>calls badly done pointilism "staccato brush strokes"
mkay, suit yourself buddy.

ok, so here is entropy. everything eventually cools down, things are breaking down into lower potential matter until they are basically cooling down to 0°Kelvin as well. the universe as a whole is cooling down. so, in essence, entropy is happening in each and every atom in the fucking entire universe.

and here is Jimmy, sitting at home, avoiding to care for body hygiene, painting internet pics of celebrities in a bad way that is literally on par with what thousands of entry level art students do before they drop out and study or work at McDonalds.

please, enlightened drug addict Jimmy, point out to me how these two paragraphs are connected.

>>3717232
>summarizing: everything about this conceptual piece of a painting is consistent with the intentions
bunch of retroactive justification for a piece of trash lmao no fundamentals git gud faget
>any painting is a commonplace that calls for debate and weighing one opinion up with another, as well as taste. but it can be stated that Tuymans was pretty clear about what he was getting at.
or it looks like he suxxxed cox and dix at drawing and made up a bunch of scuses
>What are you getting at, Jimmy?
regarding what? You're comparing hundreds of paintings connected to dozens of different ideas and concepts I've been thinking and writing about for years. Like I have an idea for an episode of a comedy series about meme paintings called "How to Paint Entropy," and you're drawing parallels between my goofsklovn memeschlock and fucking gas chamber paintings? Por que?
>How does it show in your paintings? Like, literally point out to us where the "wabi sabi" is in one of your paintings.
I'd say one of the first ones where I really got excited about thinking about wabi sabi and how to make it part of your approach to creative production happened on >>3717292 where i accidentally put a white streak on the bottom corner, but I liked how it looked like she was cringing about it, and then it looked like Blue Green and Red Lawrence were reacting to it, and it just led into a lot of reflecting and reading about and writing about wabi sabi as a way to let things be left undone to potentially be continued later, or letting accidents or mistakes loiter and reflecting on them to see if there's anything to learn from it or ways to build on the mistake in the future etc.
>Where is that beloved entropy concept of yours?
Like this is one concept out of at least 40. Time is entropy is a big concept to talk about but it's not necessarily "beloved." It just is. Why are you so upset about entropy? Entropy is evident in all of it!

>>3717283
>I urge you to approach someone who you've NOT been bombarding with your wabi sabi rant basic shit and ask them what they see in your painting.
This is as much about bahavioral conditioning and motivation and stuff as everything else. Whether or not you think the concept of entropy is evident in paintings, the purpose of "how to paint entropy" is ultimately about being productive and constantly evolving styles and experiments and approaches to what you're doing over time and across memes. Telling a story over and through multiple paintings.
>Show me just one person that is going: "Oh, I get it! This is clearly the concept of wabi sabi and entropy, told in the media of painting!"
the paintings are props for the videos. It's literally going to be yelled at the audience.
>You are the loser
you're a winner!
>who tries to apply meaning to this a posteriori.
Yeah that's kind of how you learn and evolve and stuff. Entropy!
>uses black paint in skin tones
>looks interesting the first few times
>start leaning into it because it's so destructive and risky
>start ruining paintings
>keep grinding black paint in skin tones
>spend an entire year trying to successfully incorporate black paint in skin tones by overusing water to tear up the pigment
>evolves into an entire layering approach built around doing things wrong and covering them up
>evolves into multiple different styles and approaches that are built on the behaviors that developed around decisions made and reinforced over time.
>have a new approach and and appreciation for color mixing, values, as well as an individualized approach to the process that allows for a novel and recognizable aesthetic.

Not to mention that essentially all art applies meaning later and during production. Cry more /beg/ boye.

>>3717294
>That's not what I'm saying.
In terms of practice for values, doing monochromatic memes are pretty good non?
>I'm saying you need to use your current stylistic quirks (ie. the stippling) in situations you wouldn't typically use them, in order to understand why you are using them.
I can dig this. More like on >>3715213 where it was mostly done with blending and layering with select uses of obvious brush strokes and stuff?

>or to bring down the color of the teeth)
that's one of the ones that I left the canvas exposed on the teeth. Name FIVE (5) other acrylic portraitists that don't (DO NOT) brush their teeth. Ill weight.

>>3717338
I find it strange that you claim to be here to get crits, but if people say your concept is incomprehensible to the point of suspecting there is nothing there, you are consistently unwilling to be even a little open to the smallest chance that we might have a point. We have to insist on explanations for your ideas and when pressured, you give these super defensive obscure connections to orbiting planets and timespace, like it's not really meant to be understood at all. I mean, why aren't you trying your hardest to make us understand what you're trying to say, instead it is we who have to drag explanations and ideas out of you, like you know it doesn't stand daylight.

>>3717303
>mkay, suit yourself buddy.
yeah I like staccato strokez. Not really pointillism! More chaotic! Huzzah for Entropy!
>ok, so here is entropy. everything eventually cools down, things are breaking down into lower potential matter until they are basically cooling down to 0°Kelvin as well. the universe as a whole is cooling down. so, in essence, entropy is happening in each and every atom in the fucking entire universe.
Yeah!
>and here is Jimmy, sitting at home, avoiding to care for body hygiene
I shower once a week whether I need it or not.
>painting internet pics of celebrities in a bad way that is literally on par with what thousands of entry level art students do before they drop out and study or work at McDonalds
suxxx 4 them
>please, enlightened drug addict Jimmy,
ad hominem meme. why are you so upset? If you can't engage on this shit without just attacking the person you're talking to, you should probably just commit seppuku or something.
>point out to me how these two paragraphs are connected.
EVERYTHING is connected. Explain to me how those 2 paragraphs aren't connected. Or actually just fuck off tbphwyf. Quit wasting your time with this autism. You're spending all this effort justifying to yourself why you don't do anything when you could just do something.

>>3717355
>Quit wasting your time with this autism. You're spending all this effort justifying to yourself why you don't do anything when you could just do something.
This will never get old from the fucking retarded faggot who posts 1000+ words to every response given to him. You are so pathetic it hurts.

>>3717350
>I find it strange that you claim to be here to get crits, but if people say your concept is incomprehensible to the point of suspecting there is nothing there,
yeah "how to paint entropy" is a complex meme. this has been good workshopping.
>you are consistently unwilling to be even a little open to the smallest chance that we might have a point.
Like there are a lot of ways that I think "entropy" is reflected in my approach. I jump from painting to painting applying paint as it's mixed to as much shit until I'm just brushing painty water on a new canvas. Starting new shit to continue an idea on when it comes to brush technique or color mixing, and then spiraling out into a bunch of other shit and then working back and applying the new things I've learned to the painting I was hung up on in the first place, is part of my "time is entropy" approach.
>We have to insist on explanations for your ideas and when pressured, you give these super defensive obscure connections to orbiting planets and timespace
Yeah everything is entropy! We're riding along in an entropic system. All human action is entropy! And if time is entropy and entropy is expended heat energy, capturing ideas on canvas is a form of timekeeping. There are so many different memes for how time is entropy and why that's a mantra for creative production!
>I mean, why aren't you trying your hardest to make us understand what you're trying to say
because for one thing it isn't being made clear what you're not understanding. Most of it has been aimless negation with no attempt made to help me help you. It's all been a bunch of "nuh uh."
> instead it is we who have to drag explanations and ideas out of you, like you know it doesn't stand daylight.
Like this is a big concept. It speaks to a lot of concepts and applications. The ultimate porpoise of "how to paint entropy" is more about daily behavioral conditioning and how to develop a motivational framework to do work and harness time.

>>3717356
>This will never get old from the fucking retarded faggot who posts 1000+ words to every response given to him.
you seem upsetti spaghetti.
>You are so pathetic it hurts.
see: >>3715257

>>3717375
This is ridiculous. If you had any message you wanted people to understand, you would have been really into explaining it and making sure people got it. [got talent buzzer sound]
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>>3699332
oops poops
>>3717453
painting memes is a means to travel through time

>>3717641
it was better then
but then is no longer now
time is entropy

>>3717292
i kinda like this one, maybe because you havent completely borked the anatomy or form

idk what this thread is about but good luck on your art journey

>>3717750
>i kinda like this one, maybe because you havent completely borked the anatomy or form
well I kind of did. I cut off a bunch of her right neck/shoulder by accident when painting the background and never went back and fixed it.

It is one of my favorites though. Was painted with Red Lawrence and Blue Green and they're all connected. Looks like Blue Green is eyeing the white streak and Red Lawrence is making a stress face about it.

then I tried to expand the face rainbow and the 3 sequel ones are all trash.

>>3712745
>>3714094
>>3714097
https://youtu.be/OoA0cTC228M

>>3718276

>>3718276
set to the tune of this. fire happens at the big crescendo in the 3 min mark

>>3718332
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBLagwi_m2c

ffs

gonst fuck up this one. Part of the original face rainbow >>3718099 as part of the three in the squeakquel batch. >>3702003 is one of the other ones.

idk what i'm finst do.

>>3718472

>>3718276
Did you drop out of high school?

everyone you draw looks like theyre shitting or in pain...