/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>3705844
What is up with all the prude stuff going on lately? Why are back in the 90s?

>>3705847
its advertising. they need their site to only host advertiser friendly content since almost every site is dependent on it now for income noe

>>3705844
That's really shitty because it was one of the few websites where SFW and NSFW art could coexist.
So Twitter and Instagram are the best now?

Wasn't this Apple's fault? Or did someone else complained about it?

>>3705844
The fuck can I use for my art then? Fuck twitter and instagram, there's no place as good as tumblr for getting my shit out. Guess we'll have to wait till something new pops up to capitalize on this

>>3705844
Wait
>Nudity found in art, such as sculptures and illustrations, are also stuff that can be freely posted on Tumblr
So all this affects is 3DPD?

This is solely Apples fault and the AppStore. Why do so many people bow to Apple to get in the AppStore?

>>3705844
WELP
I mean, everyone knows that tumblr's been on the decline but this puts the nail in the coffin and digs it another 6 feet under.

>>3705859
They must have reasons if they desperately want to stay in there, probably traffic and ad-related.

>>3705847
I mean kids nowadays are literally growing up with goblin porn, and are looking for more extreme ways to differentiate themselves from the rest aka are becoming delusional sickos. So I guess at least one of the big platforms purged their shit, and western twitter will probably follow.

Nsfw artists will have to find a platform that's dedicated to that kind of content like hentaifoundry or even DA, not mainstream social media, like it's kinda surreal that it was even a thing up until now. Falls into the same hole as pornstars suddenly playing games on twitch, it's just weird and a huge exploitation.

>>3705856
Only lewd art drawn by people who have been dead for at least 100 years counts as real art obviously

>>3705856
aesthetic nudity, not animu porn faggot.

So... We're going back to Blogger/blogspot/Wordpress? '-'
Twitter is cool, but not good to find stuff in the ephemeral timeline format...

>>3705852
>So Twitter and Instagram are the best now?
unfortunately, yes, also try artstation/deviantart/pixiv/any other platform, submit to everywhere and even make your own website

>>3705877
Don't they ban porn too? We're kind of stuck with twitter since everyone is going there.

explains why some anons here never got their accounts un-terminated

I'm gonna have to save a LOT of porn... like several dozen archives' worth

>>3705886
Tumblr is schizoid

Why is everyone on Twitter blaming Apple?

>>3705847
NSFW content scares away advertisers.
Websites get their revenue from ads.
Websites ban nsfw content so said advertisers won't get scared off and they don't go bankrupt.

>>3705865
It's because Tumblr as a platform has been a failure for Yahoo and has been making them hemorrhage money ever since they bought it. It doesn't help that it's the one property Yahoo has that actually has a considerable user base, and even that is shrinking by the day because Tumblr has become more and more of a hassle to use that just can't compete with Twitter. Couple that with Apple being prudes and Yahoo being desperate for adbux and you have this shit storm of terrible decisions.

>>3705889
Because Tumblr doesn’t want you to think that it’s their fault.
Twitter somehow avoided all of these issues and works with Apple easy-peasy.

>>3705895
100% this
It's just Yahoo being so desperate it's pathetic.

>>3705844
>gender confirmation surgery
kek
Rot in piss, you piece of shit website.

>>3705892
>Tumblr has become more and more of a hassle to use that just can't compete with Twitter.
But unless the person is retarded, tumblr galleries are really nice and easy to browse when it comes to art, twitter is a pain in the ass for looking back through old stuff.

>>3705901
Both are terrible.

>>3705852
For now. Twitter has fuck you momey but even it is at risk first sign of sdvert plaforms jumping ship.

Open one on twitter, DA, Pixiv, Insta, whatever. But also have account on the "free" communities like Mastodon. These instances are privately managed and decentralized so less chance of it falling due to policies (but still possible cause these instances DO have admins).

Always back up your work, and if possible, have a personal sitem

The western web has become dangerous, disgusting place and you should prepare for the worst.

>>3705859
>>3705865
large iOS install base and the fact that apple locks their platform down so much means it's probably one of the few ways to guarantee your ads aren't blocked like you could do on desktop/web browsers and android apps for tumblr.

but hey, most nsfw artists i know have moved on to twitter anyways, and twitter's main problem is just an over abundance of unironic actual nazis but that doesn't seem to bother most of the people on this site or even the people who actually run twitter.

>>3705901
i have never actually enjoyed the way any art site structures it's galleries unless the person posting their work goes the extra mile to organize things in a way that actually takes advantage of said site's extra features which twitter does have as well, just nobody bothers with that usually because twitter prioritizes the way it promotes you to other uses based on new posts as opposed to a body of work. at the very least twitter does go very much out of it's way to help you build an audience (if you actually use the site and understand the basics of how it's algorithms seem to function)

>>3705906
this, if you're really serious about hosting your work online, nsfw or otherwise, always always always make a personal site if you can afford it. even just a basic gallery and contact info will get you a long way once you manage to establish yourself.

>>3705869
>like it's kinda surreal that it was even a thing up until now
my thoughts exactly it would be like if youtube decided to allow porn. why no has created a porn version of a social media site is beyond me, maybe after twitter does the same some one will get around to making one.

>>3705916
>twitter does have as well, just nobody bothers with that usually because twitter prioritizes the way it promotes you to other uses based on new posts as opposed to a body of work.
Does it actually? Would you be willing to elaborate?

>>3705869
>pornstars suddenly playing games on twitch
And making less money than the girls who started on twitch and never did porn. What a world. Why ride a dick for pocket change when you can make bank with a little cleavage.

>>3705844
Welp.
I was already getting no traction in my Tumblr, so I guess that does it them.
Shame cuz I liked posting and talking to people there.

>>3705844
How come there isn't an Archive-of-our-own equivalent for art yet?

>>3705844
>females showing reference
Kek, even references and figure drawing will be banned, tumblr is completely dead now.

>>3705939
Fuck, I meant to write
>females showing nipples

>>3705844
feels good, mine was deleted years ago for posting pokemon hentai.

>>3705844
>Written content such as erotica, nudity related to political or newsworthy speech, and nudity found in art, such as sculptures and illustrations, are also stuff that can be freely posted on Tumblr.

>Adult content primarily includes photos, videos, or GIFs that show real-life human genitals or female-presenting nipples, and any content—including photos, videos, GIFs and illustrations—that depicts sex acts.

So no sex or RL nudity but nudity is OK in art if I get it right.

>>3705922
it has this feature called "moments" and in that feature you can put more moments. moments act as folders basically, but you can arrange the tweets there however you want to (sadly only vertical). you could also use tags and such on your own posts and then provide links that use twitter's built in search function of "from:[Their@MinusThe@] whatever the person's tags or keywords they use are" but you're limited in space and also the fact that you can't edit your post to change or add other keywords later. it's not much but moments is definitely a feature i've seen some japanese artists and western animators use to organize their work separate from the rest of their content of retweeting and food pics and what not.

my boyfriend also showed me recently that on your end you can make private lists so that you can organize who you follow into different categories which i've been meaning to go back and do cause i'm following like a thousand people right now lol.

>>3705944
most likely will just be "tasteful" nudity as in say you're just drawing some naked person standing there or maybe cooking but they're not engaged in any sexual act or erect or what have you

>>3705946
I see. Appreciated, anon.

>>3705946
>most likely will just be "tasteful" nudity as in say you're just drawing some naked person standing there or maybe cooking but they're not engaged in any sexual act or erect or what have you
Well, it's like a monkey's paw thing. ToC should be explicit as they can be. They didn't say anything about it being a specific kind of art. So nudity in illustrations should be alright from what they said.

>>3705957
>ToC
I meant ToS

>>3705957
You know it isnt anon. And so do they.

Sure its vague. So? What yoy ginna do, sue them? Its a ToS they can change it at any time to fit their needs.

Face it, twitter wants to appeal to teenage girls and slags. Not you.

>>3705963
Shit, meant tumblr. Twitter is cool so far.

>>3705844
>>3705877
>>3705883
>>3705906
>>3705965

>>3705966
There's no fucking way people are going to go back to newgrounds.

>>3705966
fucking KEK

>>3705963
>Sure its vague. So? What yoy ginna do, sue them? Its a ToS they can change it at any time to fit their needs.
All I'm saying is that you can *technically* still post illustrations with nudity. If they change it to be more explicit or flag your content as adult, you'll know what they really mean. I never used Tumblr, so I wouldn't know.

>>3705967
>>3705968
Whats wrong with it

>>3705844
So nudity in art is okay? They mean tasteful nudity right ? Is lewd art still allowed at least, or Is this China censoring bad.

>>3705966
whoever runs their social media is on the ball

>>3705971
Hentaifoundry already exists

>>3705967

>>3705980
I give it a month

What the fuck? I need a place to post my gay animo stuff... =[

>>3705966
>>3705980
absolutely based

>>3705847
The people are saying it's ads, but that's not the case with tumblr.
The real reasons are:
- Apple's app store doesn't allow any apps that provide a way to view porn.
- Tumblr had a huge cp problem and removing the option of uploading anything explicit will get rid of a whole branch of needs for moderation.

Where the fuck can I go to post loli stuff? My hands been itching to draw lolis again but no place will accept it.
If I make a website to post lolis will it get deleted too or is it okay to post anything in your websites?
I built a Wix one sometime ago but never posted anything.

>>3705996
I mean they still have to moderate to get rid of the people posting porn. The site is still going to be plagued by porn bots and literal cp. I doubt this will do anything to fix it.

>>3705996
They said they're hiring more human mods to help filter nsfw content

>>3706002
pixiv, retard

>>3705844
keyword here is 'real-life'

I think they're shutting down porn bots once and for all while keeping all the fetish western hentais

that's a great thing desu

>>3705996
No, it's ads.
Twitter allows you to share very nsfw stuff. No issues.

>>3705967
At this point, given the current circumstances, I can see newgrounds coming back

>>3705844
>nudity in the context of fine arts is still allowed
My time has come

>>3705967
Fuck, dude, I'm posting there.

>>3706002
Mastodon

>>3706017
Yes, the baraag.net instance officially supports loli. I am personally worried about it getting investigated by actual authorities.

>>3705942

It elaborates on artistic nudity right in the same post.

Not that I think it'll help much when all the systems for moderating adult content are usually done with such a broad brush that even 100% SFW blogs will inevitably suffer.

>ITT kiddies upset about not getting cartoon tatas and sausages
you should all be banned

>>3706027
Where do you think you are?

>>3705844
RIP 3 and a half years of fanbase building.
Oh well, I'll survive I guess.

>>3706025
Oh I missed that, but yeah it's gonna be hard to tell what's considered SFW for artistic reasons and what isn't, like this ref for example.

>>3705916
>and twitter's main problem is just an over abundance of unironic actual nazis but that doesn't seem to bother most of the people on this site or even the people who actually run twitter.
... You know there's just as many idiots from the other extreme of the political spectrum shitting up things there too, right?

>>3706027
I'm not upset about not GETTING them. Just slightly affected by getting de-platformed. Many of us had our tumblr accounts as our main platform for years. I'm sure most of us had a presence in other places but still tumblr was the most successful one.

>>3706002
kill yourself faggot

>>3705844
Am i the only one that uses Piczel tv?

degenerates BTFO

Based newgrounds. We never should have left you

Deviantart shall rise again

>>3706073
only for sfw fetish like bondage

>>3705844
Twitter is the last bastion. Its the last place where artists and normies meet after that theres only specialized sites

>>3706032
hot

>>3706073
site's already worse.

>>3705980
>SquidBiscuit
I see that the degenerate artists are already moving in

>pixiv is dying
>tumblr is dying

we 00s now


only thing missing is eeryone to go back to angelfire/geicities

>>3705980
Oh great, now can I get preached about woke bullshit in both Twitter AND Newsgrounds.
It's just never gonna end, isn't.

>>3706008

literally says illustrations, don't be delusional anon.

Now that social media is going the way of network television, will we see a renaissance of the forum and homepage based internet of the 90s?

>>3706176
i pray that this happens

>>3706073
deviantart only allows softcore tho

>>3706014
Digital artists getting btfo on the daily while I can post this on instagram and nobody cares

>>3705844
fuccccck most of my following is on tumblr by far :/

We need to make our own artsite

>>3706207
tumblr's not even an art site and art station still exists and it's FOR artists, retard

>>3706207
We already have this one. I wouldn't mind not having the degeneracy of the alt/porn threads though. Make this a proper traditional painting forum. Good riddance.

>>3706195
having a free pass for being a nigger isn't something you brag about

>>3706214
artstation is for industry artists working on big shit, retard
it also lacks a bunch of features that make for a good art site

>>3706220
front page is for industry artists because they've made it. get good and do something worthy of the front page then instead of your shitty hentai that you're clearly complaining about because you're in this dumb thread.

JUST

>>3706165
>pixiv is dying
>tumblr is dying
>we 00s now

NEWGROUNDS IS BACK!

>>3705966
Newgrounds needs to merge with Picarto.

When people talk about mastodon , do they mean Pawoo? Are there decent western instances?

>>3706238
What happened to Pixiv

>>3706245
site owners are retarded and keep locking shit behind payment and keep redesigning the site every other month to be worse, which is driving off people
japs are also hilariously xenophobic and many have stopped using pixiv because western artists started using it

>>3706245
I dont think you can post uncensored stuff there anyway.

honestly loving this. less cumbrains on that site now

>>3706249
>keep locking shit behind payment
deviantart did the same but worse

>>3706060
THIS

>>3706249
>japs are also hilariously xenophobic and many have stopped using pixiv because western artists started using it

yep. also japs are paranoidly not capable to handle the competition.

>>3706207
>We need to make our own artsite

The reason why tumblr and twitter was so great for artists is because they're not artsites.

>>3705844
>not using a paid plataform and not one that relies in ads
NGMI

>>3706243
They mean baraag.net most likely. Pawoo is pixiv so it has weird censorship rules.

>>3706257
that's fucking retarded

>>3706269
How fucking dumb are you? Tumblr and Twitter are good because its flooded with different types of people who use it for different reasons so it has a way bigger audience then something like Pixiv which is solely for artists. Its also made to spread shit around with likes, reblogs, retweets, ect so even more people will find your shit then just a page dedicated to you like Pixiv, Hentai-foundry or deviant art, which are all also artist focused websites.
Use your goddamn brain for a second and you wouldn't have to be told something so obvious, you mouth breather.

>>3706198
same here anon.

tumblr fucking up big time. guess its time to go back to DA and NG and so on.

>>3706186
>he thinks DA only allows softcore
you literally steal art AND say you stole it in the picture description and NOTHING, absolutely N O T H I N G will happen to you, even if a gorillion people report your shit.
you can upload copyrighted porn, even with a watermark, and again, nothing will happen.
you can upload straight up furry porn or dick pics or spam (like a billion poos in loos do already) and again nothing will happen.

DA is less moderated than 4chan and that's not a joke or exaggeration.

>>3706272
>Its also made to spread shit around with likes, reblogs, retweets, ect so even more people will find your shit
which is why trying to find artists and art you want is like searching for a needle in a haystack, right retard?
these sites also regularly fuck with artists and delete their work or accounts, so artist friendly amirite

>twitter's feed goes too fast, there's no archive and the image compression is horrid and the thumbnail previews always cut off
>pixiv is jap oriented and has almost compulsory censorship
>hentaifoundry is slow and sluggish and has huge waiting times for submissions to be accepted, low userbase and dead ugly 90s looking forums
>mastodon is not big enough
>newgrounds is literally a site for teenagers that the average non-artist person doesn't browse
>deviantart is just a dead shithole that doesn't allow nsfw but literally has its main page plagued with diaper bbw crap
>instagram is sfw only and has terrible image compression issues as well

worst time for nsfw artists to make a living rn, there's literally no good platform anymore

What about Paheal?

>>3706336
too true

>>3706195
its only digital porn artist that are affected by this.

>>3706336
>>mastodon is not big enough
precisely why more people need to migrate there

>>3705847
porn roboblogs are a huge problem on tumblr

>>3706336
>what is charging furries mad dollar to draw their shitty oc on patreon

>>3706249
>japs are also hilariously xenophobic and many have stopped using pixiv because western artists started using it
to be fair the 95% of the western art i see there is genuine deviant art tier garbage. it's embarrassing

that's a big oof from me senpai

>>3705966
newgrounds doesnt support loli, so pick your poison. the argument is because theyre "worldwide" now and have to because its law in some countries but that just means its gonna go to shit in the future too.

what's twitters official stance on lewdness? i've seen a fair amount of explicit loli/shota stuff there from japanese twitters with thousands of likes/retweets. I guess people there are less sensitive about that stuff and don't report.

>>3706313
my art has been deleted on it for having an erect dick lol

>>3706336
>worst time for nsfw artists to make a living rn, there's literally no good platform anymore

fucking finally, the market is saturated with you disgusting fucks and your degenerate artwork.

>>3706313
>you can upload straight up furry porn or dick pics or spam (like a billion poos in loos do already) and again nothing will happen.


DICKS WILL GET YOU BANNED ON DA

>>3706234
Oh no, stock went from roughly 53 bucks down to 51, how tragic.

>>3706336
Livestreaming is great, Picarto and picarto keeps growing and pic

Stream commissions are the next paradigm shift

>>3706336
Furaffinity artists still making money despite having a small website

>>3706242
Seconded

>>3706336
Pixiv is good in terms of content, but yeah you have to show some *signs* of censorship attempt, natives deal with it a bit harder. I literally put like a 5x5px red heart over a clitoris or a small black line.

Don't take my word for it, but others have said they don't give very many shits about consistency if you're clearly in the west. Just do something even if it's almost nothing

Also make Mastodon great

>>3705844
Two threads on other boards, although I guess both are faster boards than /ic/
>>>/r9k/49642945
>>>/lgbt/11251210

>>3706394
Ive been posting on pixiv for years now with not censorship and so far everything is good, ive heard that if you do get noticed they just send you a message saying pleas start censoring, so its not that bad.

>>3705844
Well, fuck.
Does anybody knows about some good Tumblr image extractor or something?

>>3706405
My main reason for censoring is so people realize we're trying to fit in and it doesn't cause xenophobic culture shock. I think it'll impact you if you're really big only. It's still hands down the best site when it comes to politics and probably even fanbase growth.

>>3706406
this works
https://github.com/Liru/tumblr-downloader

>>3706415
yeah but i see no reason why you would even want to associate with the japs or not upset them i guess, they wont give you money anyway

>>3706406
tumblripper

why is there no consensus between nsfw artists to move to Mastodon yet? it seems to be the only thing with some potential that still has a normie population

>>3706425
Because twitter exists

>>3706423
they give money if you offer avenues for it. fantia and enty are their patreon things, i think fantia is more artistically free too.

even then, a huge percentage of users are western. both western and eastern people seem to appreciate my efforts about the same; east just a little quieter about it due to language barriers(or so they think, because I can into runes a bit)

>>3706416
>>3706424

Neat. Gonna check them out.

>>3706434
i don't know, i know japanese too and i used to post in japanese back then and one time i got asked for a commission and when i told the guy in japanese that i was a westerner he deleted his massage and unfollowed

i've seen a chinese bootleg tumblr that had copied all its basic functions and layouts whilst searching for art but i imagine its heavily censored and you seemed to need an account to view full blogs so you probably have to give them your mobile number and location like with weibo

>>3706445
sorry to hear, i know theres shitheads on there but ive been lucky enough not to encounter any yet.

Ive seen them harass other users though.

well this certainly explains a lot

>>3705918
the thing is tumblr was the porn social media

>>3706425
Twitter has larger reach by an order of magnitude and literally allows anything unless incredibly obscene (you can even get away with loli if played right), and currently Mastodon featured quite limited and dont replicate twitter well at all.

And its CERTAINLY not used by normies unless you want to melt their brain trying to explain to them how decentralized networks work and why their posts dont appear on certain places.

>>3705869
Real life has nothing to do with this Anon, it is abut advertising and and the legality that requires. Remember these things are never about real life people, they are about numbers an legal texts.

i'm not a porn artist but what is a good place to learn Japanese so I can start using pixiv?

coincidence?

>>3706486
you dont need to know japanese to use it

>>3706336
>mastodon
I just looked at it and I'm probably moving there desu

I don't even do nsfw but it looks like the right place to post art and it has a tagging & reblogging system, which is all you need to get exposure

>>3706492
>posting a pair of tits is wrong

>mutilating a baby's genitals isn't

>>3706499
>mastodon
Whats up with this app shit. Phone posting is bullshit. I would use it if i didn't need a phone.

>>3706336
this is why we need to make our own website

>>3705977
that was my first thought too
newgrounds always struck me as that flash game/toon site

>>3706505
You dont moron. How do people like you even function.

i feel like i did a huge mistake, like i missed the wave, i was posting on pixiv up until now because i wanted to sort things out and like have enough time to post consistently so i was waiting until my real job
hours where ok, i was going to start a tumblr and start posting this winter, and now its over, i feel like only people who got a following from tumblr will follow them on other places in significant numbers,
is it over? i just wanted to start doing some cheap commissions and get started, fucking hell, it feels like furry is unironically the only option left to start out now

>>3706505
oh wait i think i found the non phone version

heh

>>3706512
the first site that comes up when you look it up is a phone app site with no link to the other one.

>>3706344
honestly ya, just tried it out and it's just right for art

>>3706498
oh okay I thought it might help at least to better understand the website and so that I can make real connections with my followers when I move to the site. it would be nice to make a few manga artist friends on the site

>>3706499
>>3706505
>Mastodon
They're super pro-censorship though, just look at their code of conduct
https://mastodon.social/about/more

>>3706512
It's obviously meant for apps, which makes it shit for every normal use.

>>3706532
wow. thats really dumb. but they allow porn to be posted as long as its tagged so really its just tumblr before the shit storm.

>>3705844

PORNHUB
PORNHUB
PORNHUB

IT HAS THE MOST NORMIES AND YOURE SHIT WONT GET CENSORED!! AND YOUR ANIMATIONS WILL GET MILLIONS OF VIEWS

>>3706532
from what i can tell here they just want u to tag shit so it seems okay.

Does pillowfort allow for nsfw??

>>3705996
>- Tumblr had a huge cp problem
What? I've been using tumblr for a while and never heard of this. Unless you meant loli/shota...

>>3706519
>Tom's going to have to pay for a fuckton more server space for NG to sustain all the new 10 year old bug-eyed beanmouth spam only for 90% of them to leave in 3 months

>mfw seeing all the fucking roasties commemorating this
I see something deserving an actual fucking purge.

>>3706560
anyone wanna bet we'd get an AO3 equivalent for tumblr before the end of december?

>>3706043
>>3705916
>twitter Nazis, they exist but they have to be crypto about it if they want their account to stay up
>nevermind the mob of people with literal hammers and sickles in their names, who only have to conceal threats of violence, if even that
Okay. At that point it just comes down to who bothers you more.

>>3706562
I haven't seen 1 person like this, even the liberal people I follow on twitter don't like this

blogging:
https://pawoo.net
https://baraag.net

gallery hosting:
https://www.vultr.com/

>>3706555
nah it's not just loli/shota stuff there are a few western tumblr users that draw cp of characters from western cartoons. I don't get involved with this type of drama but I remember seeing some call out posts on twitter of some artists calling out tumblr cp artists

>>3705847
It's a free market. It's not like the gubbernment is doing cencorship. You can literally found your own website and post your shit there. Literally nobody forces you to use one of the top 50 normie social media websites to spread degeneracy, and it's their very right to add a guideline that prohibits porn and enforcing it how they want.

>>3706570
I've seen several. SEVERAL. FUCKING ROASTIES.

>>3706581
no one gives a shit

go start your own bank then faggot

>>3706585
>no one gives a shit
Okay then why not stop complaining?

>>3706587
because no one is complaining about their rights being violated, corporate censorship is still a form of censorship and anyone who doesn't like censorship doesnt look corporate censorship this is not rocket science

>>3706562
It could just be lots of people on tumblr that don’t like loli, and don’t mind the collateral damage to purging all NSFW on the site.
Then again, if roasties were particularly anti-loli that’d make sense considering that they’d probably hate younger women in general for not having blown the fuck out genitals.

>>3706572
cp means photos/videos of actual children you tard. Western drawings of western fictional underage characters still fall under the loli/shota category.

>>3706582
post screenshots, the only people I would assume be against porn are people who think it's the devil

>>3706597
i mean look at how many retards in this thread are happy about this and calling porn artists degenerates.

>the only people I would assume be against porn are people who think it's the devil

well they literally think it's the jews and their world domination master plan so...

>>3706350
>95% of the western art i see there is genuine deviant art tier garbage.

I would say 80% of the Japanese art is too.

>>3706560
yamero!

I like newgrounds and would like to see it hold on to a good chunk of its new userbase when it's been on the precipice of disaster for well over a decade. I must say its interface does seem a bit dated and claustrophobic though, and wonder if people will find it appealing enough to stay long term.

>>3706595
okay my bad. yeah tumblr has a bad loli/shota problem but it doesn't have any cp on it at least that know about

>>3706609
i agree, but there is a level of quality japanese typically meet much better than westerners. maybe its also because compared to deviantart theres no third world faggots uploading memes and other garbage like "renders" or "transparents"

>>3705895
Twitter is too big to fuck with - all the celebrities and even Trump use it as their main way of communicating with the public. It’s a rare scenario where Apple is the little guy/low man on the totem pole, and not having Twitter in their App Store would actually impact their marketability.

>>3706612
What I've gathered from the discussion surrounding this recent tumblr retardation is that they actually HAD real cp as well, which was a big part of the problem. Not sure who to believe because I only ever used tumblr to dump my anime tiddy drawings and didn't bother with the rest of that shithole.

>>3706613
true japanese artists always upload work that looks like a finished thhing on pixiv i don't see them rarely ever upload wips or unfinshed work even if it's not the best drawn they make sure to finish it

>>3706532
That's a specific mastodon instance that you should avoid, but that's not mastodon itself. Just join a non-shitty instance like pawoo and you'll have no problems.

>Followed 20 different NSFW artists on there
>Now they're all breaking off onto different sites now

How annoying. Now I gotta go make a twitter account to follow half these people

>>3705901
I think he means how theyre fucked for phone surfing. If you phone surf they try to make it so you can’t re-blog/like or message people unless you’re using the App and if you’re using the App you can’t use archive mode.

That and how they kept fucking with their algorithm to hide NSFW content unless you turned it off in the settings (and then they’d turn it back on without asking you to be “helpful” and “improve your experience.”) and then they implemented the “best stuff first” policy which was sort of the same thing as the last example.

Plus the stupid way you log in where they started trying to get you to have a confirmation code sent to your email instead of entering a password for some idiotic reason.

>>3706581
>It's a free market. It's not like the gubbernment is doing cencorship.
Wrong actually. Financial institutions like banks, paypal, etc threaten no-service to force websites to comply with their demands. And those institutions are monopolies, thanks to government backing and extreme levels of bureaucracy that prevent competitors emerging.

>>3705847
the ads control almost if not all the free part of the internet

>>3705918
There is, it’s called Fetlife. There’s a few others too, like Whiplr, or the gay specific ones like hotbottoms.net or spankthishookups, there’s a few other ones too but those are the best

>>3706581
>You can literally found your own website

Except you need to go through domain hosts and registrars which are also private companies.

The reality of the situation is that the entire internet can only be accessed through and runs on private companies you are at the mercy of.

>>3706394
>>3706336
What's this about Pixiv censoring stuff, i've never heard of that before?

>>3706602
Yeah no lots of muh child pornography, muh revenge porn, happy with this as well. You also forget how many libertarians exist on /pol/

>>3706640
Old old draconian law japan wont remove that requires all genitals be censored like porn kiosks on the vegas strip. The reason JAVs are pixelated garbage and doujins have hilarious censorship attempts. But you don't need to try very hard

>>3706581
>it's a free market
He asked why they're doing it, not why they're allowed. There'a a difference between those and saying "they can do whatever they want" doesn't actually answer the first question.

>>3706632
>Financial institutions like banks, paypal, etc threaten no-service to force websites to comply with their demands
Who says cartoon porn sites have to co-operate with banks and for what reason?

>>3706640
The internet is open. You can just setup a web server and build a site that anybody from anywhere around the world can access merely by typing an IP in the addres bar. You're not at the mercy of other parties. Also domain registrars rarely give a shit about what you're actually hosting on your site.

>>3705980
Great, so now Newgrounds can have a bunch of newfag tumblr niggers.

>>3706653
Apparently they were the ones calling to SHUT IT DOWN to begin with.

Also, shit nigga let's be real. Newgrounds probably had a userbase well under a few thousand people by this point-if it even had that. One way or another, this is for the best. I'm just hoping I don't see Tom become a cuck in my lifetime. Seeing Schmorky turn into a tranny diaperfag rapist pedophile was hard enough.

>>3706620
if there was real cp it's fair that they get rid of it and purge it off the site, but to block all nsfw content is going a little to far instead of just hiring a team to moderate and look out for real cp on the site and report it to the police.

>>3705847

It's the foregone and logical conclusion of political correctness and social justice.

>>3705967
More so because other sites already exist where people already had accounts before like Pixiv and Twitter.

>>3706663
wow, you're an actual fucking idiot

>>3706672
He's right.

>>3706672
Get an argument, SJW.

>>3706675
Y tho
Social justice types don’t like sexualized representations of femininity in media and don’t like the “male gaze.” I wouldn’t take it for granted as some kind of fact that all leftists love freedom to make the kind of art you want.

>>3706207
Why do people keep repeating this idiocy? How are you gonna find clients from an obscure as fuck site? The point of posting on these ultrapopular sites is to get as many people to check out your work.

>>3706685
You can't blame the eradication of NSFW on leftists either. This was decided by Apple execs and advertising companies. Could have some old conservative asshole

>>3706689
>>3706685
This is one of the kinds of shit that both mudslimes, neoradfems and /pol/tards agree with. We are literally against the 3 most radicalized groups in the world.

>>3706685
The only leftists who aren't sex positive these days are the radfems who get along better with right wingers

>>3706689
lefties bitching about muh objectification or "literal child porn" because of naked nintendo squids are partially responsible because theyre loud and capitalistic executive fucks listen to them. they both suck

liberal capitalists get the bullet too

>>3706695
You realize that the child porn tumblr was worried about was actual real children right

>>3706702
if only those groups actually were consistent, but im not referring to them specifically anyways, im talking about as an existence on most popular social media. theyre the same as the massreporting alt right faggots with roman statues for icons

>>3706663
>if something happened I dont like it's because of sjws

banning porn and criminalizing masturbation etc has always been in the wheelhouse of old white conservatives

The ones /pol/tards think they worship but REEEEE when they get a taste

>the side which fought for the sexual liberation are now acting like modern puritans

dumb hypocritical white liberals

>>3706699
capitalism is good you retarded faggot

>>3706714
Sexual liberation when it suits women, puritanism when it harms men.

I seriously hope you tremendous retards are not going to migrate to twitter.
They don't even host the original file (like tumblr after they removed data.tumblr_raw)

Use a website that respects you and your art
Spoiler: none exist. Build your own website.

>>3706721
this
these are the same people that said to stop fucking your husbands if they vote for trump and stuff like that.

>>3706722
Newgrounds does

>I can tell because when you click on a piece you can't see shit because it's so fucking enormous

>>3706718
capitalism also brings pedro and his 50 filthy spawns to america thanks raising up costs

enjoy lying on the bed you made, /pol/turd scum

can't wait for the next big site, the current choices now are trash

>lots of people are actually creating NG account
come on people, don't be that desperate

>>3706732
i have been on NG for a while and its a nice site. never had a problem with them.

>>3706730
>the only argument for communism is that it will inevitably destroy the economy and make the country inhospitable and/or unappealing to the swathes of people you'd otherwise be demanding immediate safe passage into your wife's bedroom for were you not arguing with me now

kys your'reself commie brainlet lmao

>>3706745
their art vanguard are very much against photography and especially work containing photographic elements

my glitch art got removed because of that

>>3706756
>Glitch "art"

...and NOTHING of VALUE was LOST

>>3706749
>reeee im being oppressed by the jews!!!
>oh i know! better fight back by supporting the system that allow jews to fuck whiteys over with

go slurp the semen from trumpberg's cock, you worm

>>3706593
>they’d probably hate younger women in general for not having blown the fuck out genitals.
That's not how vaginas work

>>3706759

>>3705844
Glad my only notable presence exists on DA.

>>3706002
twitter and pixiv.

I fucking hate Twitter but it will have to do, it feels more impersonal and cluttered. I liked the ask box on tumblr and the recommendations, so many were on point.

>>3705847
>What is up with all the prude stuff going on lately?

People are saying it's about advertisers, but that's really not tracing the problem all the way back to its roots. Studies show that millenials are having a lot less sex than previous generations, too, and that's not the fault of advertisers. It's a combination of rising obesity rates and feminism, imo: the majority of western women now are overweight, and 40% are obese, and they're mostly feminists who resent men and are angry that men don't want to fuck them. Porn triggers them.

>>3706626
yeah no, a lot of artists like to post sketches, in fact there's a japanese tag for it and it has 32000 hits.

>>3706165
Don't kid yourself, Pixiv is still very, very active. Most jap artists have a pixiv account and they use the site to post uncompressed versions of images that they post on twitter, since the latter artifacts the fuck out of them even with the :orig trick.

>>3706249
what site are they using instead, asking for a friend

>>3706782
Senpai, how retarded are you? People aren't having sex or babies because it's too fucking expensive for both. Women are having plenty of sex tho.

Time for all you faggots to get a job. I hear McDonalds is hiring, or Wendy's.

With all the time you idiots wasted on your "careers", these jobs are perfect for you.

>>3706323
>which is why trying to find artists and art you want is like searching for a needle in a haystack, right retard?
Generally artists who have a twitter post it as a link in every other site they have like tumblr and pixiv. If you know an artist, you can find their twitter usually. The benefit of twitter is the exposure, getting retweeted means everyone who follows that person will see your stuff, so if you're starting out it's very helpful to tag your stuff (and draw some popular character so the big artists notice you and retweet you so that you get a bunch of followers).
>these sites also regularly fuck with artists and delete their work or accounts, so artist friendly amirite
Tumblr does right now obviously, but not twitter, which even allows loli.

>>3706782
You're deluded? People are having fewer babies because babies are expensive. We're purchasing houses later as well. If everyone is fat, people will lower their standards enough to fuck, since everyone is the same.

>>3706792
This has no effect on artists doing well on patreon whatsoever.

Furthermore you can still crop porn and link to full image.

>>3706793
twitter will remove loli if it gets mass reported

>>3706336
>>pixiv is jap oriented and has almost compulsory censorship
you can just ignore it, it's really not that big of a deal, in fact most western artists on pixiv don't even censor their stuff and it's how you can identify them right away.

should i pick baraag or pawoo?

>>3706794
that it's worldwide study that when people have a higher standard of living they have less children or no children.

>>3706799
baraag has a western community, pawoo has a lot more but theyre all japanese

you can follow pawoo users from baraag and vice versa if they see you retweeted/boosted but not on a local timeline or anything

>>3706782
>women won't fuck me so that means women aren't fucking anyone

>>3706809
>feminists who resent men and are angry that men don't want to fuck them. Porn triggers them.
That pure, unadulterated projection. Kino.

>>3706799
Sometimes i feel like you fags make up these things
>oh yeah i have a wabumabu and doobiewoomie account too

>>3706549
Straight off their Tumblr page:
Q: In light of tumblr now no longer allowing "adult content" (like nsfw art/pictures) will pillowfort still allow nsfw content as long as it is properly marked? Because that decision has pretty much destroyed my already little faith in tumblr.

A: Yes, we plan to allow NSFW content with very few restrictions. I don’t have any particular insight into why Tumblr is making this decision but if I had to guess, it’s because allowing NSFW content conflicts with their need for the site to be marketable and safe for advertisers– Pillowfort on the other hand plans to derive most of its revenue from user subscriptions, meaning that we will be beholden to our actual userbase and not outside advertisers and can therefore have more leeway in what we can host.

>>3706764
anon, you can't expect an incel who jacks it to cp to know what a woman's vagina is like. pls be considerate

>>3706782
>studies show that blablablah shit i made up
>women wont have sex with me so I will pretend it is me who wont have sex with then

>>3706486
there's an english option, pretty much all you need to know (for the sake of making sure your art reaches as many people that is) are the japanese names of the tags related to your work, like character names and stuff. It's not hard to find them and copypaste them, especially with all the english submissions on the site that often also have japanese tags inside.

I hope tumblrites don't swarm /ic now. But tumblr already sucked for NSFW shit because you had to make an account and log in to be able to view feeds with lewds.

>>3706815
lol

>>3706830
>tumblr already sucked for NSFW shit because you had to make an account and log in to be able to view feeds with lewds.
dont tell me this actually stopped you?

>>3706707
Hypocrite, you blame someone for thinking it's the sjws while at the same time you assume this is because of the other side of the spectrum.

Do some research, this is because of Apple not liking Tumblr's porn bot accounts that plague the site. California is cracking down on this too with Sony, would you say California is conservative? Come on.

>>3706815
wabumabu and doobiewoomie accounts when

>>3706694
Yeah no.
https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2018-06-25-playstation-blocks-launch-of-adult-anime-game-omega-labyrinth-z?page=comments

>>3706234
Just a small FYI, Stocks will go up and down after any announcement a company makes good or bad. You have to wait until the end of the next quarter to see how bad this will affect their stock. I see people always posting shit like this when it's not accurate.

>>3706722
Twitter is good for exposure and due to that it's the reason most artists are there. People tend to have another account where they post their uncompressed art, like Pixiv, which they have a link to in their profile description.
>>3706728
Newgrounds doesn't allow loli and the site has server issues, now imagine all the tumblr porn userbase going there, Tom Fulp is gonna have to eat leaves tomorrow.

>>3706807
picked both, thx anon.
i kinda hope baraag stays small so tumblrfags dont try to call it a place for pedos and get it shut down

>>3705847
It's advertising. The whole reason Tumblr did this is because Apple threatened them due to the porn bots plaguing the site nowadays so Tumblr panicked and did this drastic measure.

>>3706849
its surprisingly full of them but they all have the special interest to keep safe: digging drawings of little boys and girls, so i guess enemy of my enemy etc etc

>>3706830
what is it with you people thinking that people only use one website? people posted their tumblr stuff on 4chan all the fucking time, and even the ones that didn't just posted it on other sites like twitter and pixiv.

>>3706843
>a bunch of comments on a fucking news article from normalfags laughing about some shitty ecchi game nobody cares about not being allowed on playstation
This was your leading example
Embarrassing

Made a pastebin to help artists migrate and pick a new host, any suggestions are welcome.

https://pastebin.com/DnFJu1wu

>>3706764
People who use roastie don’t actually think that being a slut makes your genitals roast beef. It’s a funny thing to call retards like this >>3706820 when their labia gets in a knot. When someone is flinging around incel as an unironic insult, you know you’re dealing with a salty cunt.

>>3705844
oh shit, better start stockpiling on lewd tutorials before they go away forever

>>3706859
God bless you anon. Thank you.

>>3705916
>s just an over abundance of unironic actual nazis

You say this like it's a bad thing. Never mind the other side of the political spectrum literally calling for the genocide of white people. The nazis have to constantly be coy about their speech less someone doxxes them then starts harassing their workplace and families..

>>3706581
>muh free market

fuck off lolberg this is why nobody takes your shitty ideology seriously anymore all you do is suck corporate cock

>>3705938
It was Tumblr. Ages ago.

>>3706859
saw this for things related to loli/shota, which obviously means nsfw is allowed.

https://pastebin.com/sn80NWF2

>>3706834
Sometimes it did, yes. Because I hardly ever went to tumblr and could never remember the password to my dummy account and couldn't be bothered to look it up so I just said fuck it. It's like when I'm trying to creep on someone on Facebook and they want me to log in to view their photos. Fuck that shit.

>>3705916

"actual nazis" just mean white people who don't want to become minorities in their own homes, and obviously that was always going to be a repercussion of floods of brown welfare parasites into white countries.

>>3706888
trips of truth.

>>3706699
>>3706718
>>3706730
>>3706749
>>3706761
Third position is best position you fucking losers.

Ein Volk, ein Reich, ein Führer

Id’s habbening :DDD

>>3706909
fug

>>3706877
Thank you. Added e621, Hiccears, and Commiss.

>>3705916
twitter has non stop blatant anti-white rhetoric from verified users and has begun purging people for not conforming to the new infinite gender fad and you're worried about "an abundance of Nazis". It's amazing to see people living in totally different realities. I feel like I'm popping in and out of different dimensions sometimes.

>>3706915
You're fucking retarded if you haven't seen the nazi communities on twitter. The fact that both sides scream about how much twitter sucks proves that it's not that biased one way or another

>>3706909
>the fall and rise of newgrounds

i wish tom would release an archive with all flash animations

>tfw watching final fantasy sonic x and sonic quest for power back in 2006

fuck i want to go back

>>3706868
>>3706888
>>3706915
I can't wait until the white genocide happens so you can finally shut the fuck up

>>3706926
this

>>3706862
If you do then please upload that shit to MEGA or somewhere else later.

>>3706920
show me the verified users who proclaim to be Nazis or call for the erasure of Jews or whatever

>>3706926
>so you can finally shut the fuck up
Because all the niggers will be dead and I'll have nothing to complain about.

>>3706941
You're first

>>3706944
I'm part Jew so I get a free ride on whatever side I choose :P :P :P :P

>oh will somebody please think of the poor nazis? They just want to kill billions in peace. :(
What a direction for a thread about Tumblr to turn lol

>>3706926 is right though, white genocide is a good thing so we don't have to hear nazis whine anymore. If they want to be the victims so bad, then let them be. They deserve it.

>>3706707
SJWs have been against lewd for fucking YEARS now. It's a long running joke that they have become the new puritans in their quest to delete everything that's "problematic" or "objectifying". Newsflash: it's not the fucking "ebil old white males" who demand that your videogame titties get censored. It's the ones calling themselves progressives. It's a fucking clown world and there's nothing we can do to change it.

funny how conservative feminists like andrea dworkin were actually ahead of their time

>>3706959
Whats ironic is most of them like looking at porn but at the same time do that.

>>3706761
>system that allow jews to fuck whiteys over with
>posting Marx while posting that
You retards haven't openend a single history book in your entire fucking lives, have you?

>>3706957
>>oh will somebody please think of the poor nazis? They just want to kill billions in peace. :(

Legit nazi here (at least by modern definitions would call myself an ethnic nationalist). Don't want to kill anyone. Just want to have the right to live in peace without people persecuting me for my skin colour and what my ancestors did a couple hundred years ago.

I believe every ethnic group has the right to establish and maintain a state where that ethnic group's interests are put at the absolute forefront of policy making, both economically and socially. I don't support genocide or ethnic cleansing, I don't support imperialism, colonisation, jingoism or interventionism. I support the idea of people's choice to live within a multi-ethnic/multi-cultural state if they want, but don't force me. States run better in peace time with open international markets.

Most people, including myself, who identify as le ebil nazbis and aren't just edgy highschoolers used to be just flat out libertarians but you get labelled a fascist for having libertarians ideas in the modern day. Just please, leave me, my loved ones and my money the fuck alone.

>hurr durr but the only reason you have money is becuz muh white pepol colonisation
>The earliest and most prolific colonisers in the world were Spain and Portugal
>Borderline bankrupt with massive civil unrest
>Country which was very late to colonisation and then got it's empire dismantled twice and bombed into absolute oblivion less than a century ago, Germany, biggest economy in the EU now
>Countries with almost no colonial history, Denmark, Sweden, Finland and Norway, some the richest and nicest places to live in the entire world.

>>3706957
The issue is that complaining about muh nazis on twitter while completely ignoring the literal fucking marxists who openly fantasize about gulags and killing people really reveals where your priorities lie.

>>3706612
Well the whole reason the app was taken off of the apple store was because of actual child porn that slipped through the filters

>>3706986
The reason is porn. There was a negligible amount of CP if any. But porn - even adult porn - is not advertiser friendly.

>>3706977
>lmao we're going to get rid of all the minorities by just asking them nicely ;)

>>3707005
Can you fucking mouthbreathers discuss anything without strawmanning?

>>3707002
>https://www.businessinsider.com/tumblr-removed-from-apple-app-store-because-of-child-porn-2018-11

>"Tumblr's app vanished from Apple's App Store on Friday, and on Monday it was revealed that it was taken down because child pornography had been slipping past its security safeguards."

Someone should get a bunch of the nsfw tutorials on tumblr and make a pastebin/mega of them. I'd do it myself but I'm having no luck since I lost my account

>>3707008
Ethnic cleanse yourself

>>3707005
I said I didn't support genocide or ethnic cleansing. I'm open to expulsion if people don't leave.

I'm also open to living with minorities granted they accept they will be given no representation in government and no say in policy making. They are free to enjoy the prosperity of the state and contribute to the prosperity of the state, I wouldn't stop them from doing that but if they want representation, go to a multi-ethnic state or their own ethnic state.

>>3707013
So I guess that's your answer then.

>>3707014
This is so cute. Meanwhile whites are getting outbred hard everywhere leading to less representation everywhere. Muslims, trans, etc. are actually starting to get representation in politics.
Liberal universalism will only intensify.

>>3707018
What will you do when there's no more whites paying for your shit?

>>3707018
Doesn't concern me. Whites have always been a minority in terms of total world population. People like the Kurds are basically being genocided on all sides for decades now with the world absolutely refusing to recognise their ethno-state but they're still going strong.

>>3707023
Is that the only retort you NPCs always have? You aren't paying shit, got a job.

>>3707028
Can we talk about tumblr alternatives now, Grandma?

>>3707030
Go on, NPC

>>3707028
>>3707032
>n-no, YOU guys are the real NPCs!
Like clockwork.

>>3706722
twitter do save the original size. There's an extension for that too

>Pixiv is still alive

not a single fuck was given that day

Hard to feel anything when my dashboard been dead years before this announcement

>>3706815
kek made me chuckle

>>3706807
>>3706799
is there a mobile app for baraag or just mastodon in general? I'm aware pawoo has it's own app linked to pixiv but I'm really lost with these websites

>>3706859
>Do NOT use Twitter for anything besides promoting yourself or talking with fans; it is extremely likely to crack down on adult content in the near future.
You can hide your nsfw content in privatter. It's a 3rd party site you can link to twitter.

>>3705844
WHY THE FUCK ARE FAT ENABLING TUMBLR AND THE GENERIC SJW TRASH IS STILL ON TUMBLR? THE FUCKING PIECE OF SHITS

>>3707152
whoa now billy.....

>>3706870
>monopolies are a result of free market but not of the gov intervention in the market
Lol.

what about vk.com?

>>3705980
tfw your anatomy is too bad to be liked on newgrounds or hentaifoundry, and tumblr would have been your only outlet..

>>3706870
lmao free-market capitalism is literally the worst system for corporations that depend on the state to thrive.

>>3706815
fucking kek

Man I feel like the whole internet is changing. Whats the big deal. Is there something going on relating about ads? first 4chan splitting into two and now tumblr banning nsfw.

>>3707286
Platforms don't want any NSFW shit on their sites because corporations get intimidated and don't wanna run ads on nsfw content (be it porn, gore or just adult oriented themes in general). And when corporations threaten to pull their ads sites go into panic mode like tumblr did and delete everything nsfw because they are after the big revenue bux that they can only get by corporate ads.

tumblrs post even got flagged.

>>3707110
Added.

>>3707443
lmfao

>>3707018
Trans is a race now?

>>3706924
>final fantasy sonic x
>New Super Mario Bros Z
>Nazo Unleashed
>Rawrest/Waltz of the Forest
God, I wish I was a kid again.

>>3706005
I'm already seeing a flood of poorly drawn fetish shit from westerners on all my favorite tags ;_;

>>3708094
I'm just surprised real unironic weeaboos are still a thing in the current year.

>>3708138
>it's the current year guys!!! stop liking things i don't like!

>>3708145
The fuck are you on? I'm saying weeaboos with it's original meaning, not just as a blanket term for anyone who likes anime.

>>3705918
YT had porn on it before it decided to become family friendly. It's where everyone went to go see the Paris Hilton Sex Tape

>>3707204
its kinda both, almost every industry unhampered will always try to corner the resources and make itself a monopoly. Its like basic human nature to wanna control as much of your industry as possible, governments help/hurt this tendency by both providing stability so no one just comes in smashes ur face and takes ur shit, and also sometimes stopping you from just coming in smashing someones face and taking their shit. Even in the past people would fight tooth and nail for resources to essentially create monopolies on basic needs (its why land was always valuable since forever) and even still nothing has dramatically changed in this behavior except now the markets include things like advertising space, public perception and infrastructure control (Amazon is mainly scary because it controls the back end of so many fucking retailers because they own so much of the proprietary software and hosting).

>>3708767
pornhub had rips of so many movies for so long before even they started receiving dmca notices.

>>3708426
mainstream normies is trying to make the internet boring so theres no competition