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Do you think there should be taboos in art, or do you think anything should be allowed?

>> No.3696712
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3696712

i think you should FUCK OFF

>> No.3696714

>>3696712
not me

>> No.3696715

Pornography is already taboo, but that stops no one. It should be illegal.

>> No.3696716

>>3696708
>gets called out for having the same file names
>immediately posts this 20 minutes after I call you out

Strange anon, anyone that defends this find me any other nazi post that has a different file name, you're so fucking obvious

>> No.3696719

>>3696715
why should it be illegal?

>>3696716
pls stay on topic

>> No.3696721

>>3696719
You've made 4 threads in the past hour. Fuck off trying to play nice

>> No.3696741
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3696741

>>3696708
There is only one way that a nation, an ideology, a religion, a culture or whatever can impose itself to the others.
Take this as an history lesson:
Who has the best artists wins.

>> No.3696743

>>3696708
Everything should be allowed

>> No.3696753

>>3696721
I love you anon

>> No.3696757

>>3696708
OP is the best poster

>> No.3696760

>>3696708
as this anon says:
>>3696741
who want to impose taboos has fear of its own arguments, bad arguments cannot convince good artists.

>> No.3696765

i think anythings ok except for just straight up naked children

>> No.3696767

>>3696719
>why should it be illegal?
Because I think it is indecent, and basically just trash hiding behind the banner of "art." Sue me, I don't legislate or even vote

>> No.3696776

>>3696765
why should naked children be illegal?

>> No.3696780

>>3696776
i mean paintings and pictures of just naked children should be considered taboo not illegal

>> No.3696789

I can say that op isnt a work of art with this nazi propaganda shit.

>> No.3696790

>>3696780
why should it be taboo?

>> No.3696799

>>3696790
because the person who painted it is most likely a pedophile

>> No.3696801

>>3696799
and?

>> No.3696805

>>3696801
and pedophiles should be shot anon

>> No.3696830

>>3696805
why?

>> No.3696851

i wish i were at 4channel

>> No.3696950

>>3696851
Welcome to new 4chan

>> No.3696952

>>3696950
*neo 4chan

Haw haw

>> No.3696960

>>3696830
Because their desires bear heavy potential to manifest as harm to children. Especially at the point where they're making artwork of naked children.

>> No.3696966

>>3696960
bullshit

>> No.3697003

>>3696966
You don't think pedophiles are more likely to cause harm to children than people with normal, healthy sexual desires? That's a hot take my dude.

>> No.3697009

>>3697003
why? explain yourself

>> No.3697012

>>3697009
A person who isn't attracted to a 9 year old Suzie isn't going to be fucking her anytime soon anon. Someone who is might not, but they also might.

>> No.3697014

Censoring of art should be avoided as much as possible. That being said, I do hate Loli drawers.

>> No.3697016

>>3697014
Basically this. They shouldn't be instantly locked up for doing so, but there is very good reason for law enforcement and individuals alike to keep a concerned eye on them.

>> No.3697018

>>3697012
A man who is attracted to women of all ages above 18 isn't suddenly going to rape women because they're attracted to them, dumbass. Why would it be any different for gay people or pedophiles.

Man, who let these dumb fucks in my pedophile safe space.

>> No.3697020

>>3697018
Is someone with primary or secondary sexual attraction to prepubescent children more likely to rape or coerce a child than someone without said attraction to children anon? Leaving aside all arguments of children being easier to exploit than adult women, just answer this.

>> No.3697022

>>3697012
marc dutroux for example was not even a pedophile you fucking dumbass

>> No.3697023

>>3697020
Is someone with an attraction to women above 18 more likely to rape someone above 18 than a pedophile is?

Can you answer that for me and realize how dishonest this question is?

>> No.3697025

>>3697020
You probably think you're clever writing this fallacious argument. Lol

>> No.3697026

>>3697023
Your argument essentially boils down to "a gay man is just as likely to rape a woman as a straight man" - you recognize how utterly batshit insane this is, right?

>> No.3697027

>>3697026
Are you fucking retarded? How is that my argument. I was making a shit argument to emulate your dumb question. What the hell are you on about?

>> No.3697029

>>3697027
If gay men aren't as likely to rape a woman as straight men are, it follows that non-pedos aren't as likely to rape children as pedos are.

>> No.3697030

>>3697026
That's the point he's trying to make, idiot.

>> No.3697031

>>3697027
Anyone under LGBT+ is gay

>> No.3697032

>>3697029
Do you think being a pedophile suddenly strips you of your urges to resist raping anything you see? Think critically about this.

>> No.3697037

>>3697032
people like him do not think
they just look for reasons to look on others

>> No.3697038

>>3697032
No. I never said that. I think you have to be baiting here, it isn't hard to understand that while someone who is attracted to children MIGHT rape one, someone who has no such attraction definitely will not.

A straight man might rape a woman, a gay man almost certainly will not. It really isn't a difficult concept to comprehend anon.

>> No.3697041

>>3697038
>someone who has no such attraction definitely will not
again, look up marc dutroux

>> No.3697042

>>3697038
If you're acting like it's evenly distributed what the fuck is your point? It's like you're saying you're ok with people raping women as long as it's not a kid.

If that's not your point then don't fucking bring it up.

>> No.3697044

>>3697041
I know who he is. What about it? Throughout this argument I've mostly used "someone with an attraction towards children" and not simply "pedophile" so what's your point? He clearly had such an attraction, he raped a bunch of little girls.

>> No.3697045

>>3697042
Whether the desire to rape is evenly distributed across sexualities or not, children make infinitely easier targets which might be more tempting to the deviant in and of itself.

>> No.3697050

>>3697037
Yeah I have no idea why I'm even trying man. People are honestly braindead. If I make him realize he's contradicting himself he'll just skip to something else and convince himself that he didn't.
>>3697044
Circular argument retard
>he rape litl girl
>must be pedophile
>all pedophiles rap lil gils
>dudnt matter he pedophile
>non pedophiles no rap girls
>>3697045
That's not how that works. What's stopping a man from raping a woman at any point when there's a chance alone. Stupid fucking argument.

>> No.3697052

>>3697050
Aight I realize now that you've been baiting me all this time, good job anon.

>> No.3697053

>>3697052
Ok.
Continue to deny studies that have been made about those who aren't actual pedophiles raping little girls. That will show me.

Fuck off you braindead moron.

>> No.3697054

>>3697044
you retard do not realize that many people rape opportunistic

>> No.3697056

>>3697054
Yes but someone who had no attraction to a child wouldn't jump on the opportunity anon you fucking dipshit holy shit. You've probably had plenty of opportunities to rape weaker men but you don't fucking do it because you aren't gay.

>> No.3697057

>>3697045
>children make infinitely easier targets
they really don't

>> No.3697059

>>3697056
A rapist is a fucking rapist you fucking retarded fuck. A pedophile who fucking has fucking morals like any other fucking normal person you dumb fuck, would still not take the fucking opportunity to do that no matter the situation. Like any good person.

Fucking off yourself.

>> No.3697060

>>3697059
You have to be at least 18 to post here.

>> No.3697061

>>3697060
Kill yourself faggot, I was imitating and exaggerating the autistic '>you fucking dipshit holy shit.'

Leave.

>> No.3697064

>>3697060
You have to be 18 to post here to tell people they have to be 18 to post here.

>> No.3697065

>>3697061
Nice reddit spacing my fellow Kekistani.

>> No.3697068

>>3697056
>someone who had no attraction to a child wouldn't jump on the opportunity
do you honestly think a rapist who waits at night for his prey, would give a single shit about if his victim ends up 18 or 12?

>oh hey my girl, i am here to rape you, can i ask you how old you are?
>ehm i-im 12 m-mister
>oh sorry my little darling, for disturbing your peace NVM
you can't be this stupid

>> No.3697069

>>3697065
Good one.

I just like how it looks. Please get offline, nigger.

>> No.3697071

>>3697065
Figures

4chan

fags

are

afraid

of

proper

spacing

>> No.3697073

>>3697071
>outing yourself as reddit pedo scum
Epic.

>> No.3697077

>>3697073
>Ebin ironic buzzwords
Cringe
>He thinks being an SJW is not reddit

>> No.3697080

>>3697077
>he thinks being against pedophilia is akin to being an SJW
The far left are the ones endorsing the notion of the virtuous pedophile.

>> No.3697082

>>3697080
>4chan
>The land of CP
>Typically right
Hmm...

You're just like fags from reddit and SJWs. Mindlessly following some belief with little to no introspection. Carry on, nigger.

>> No.3697083

>>3697080
feminists hate pedos

>> No.3697085

>>3697082
If you think you need a lot of introspection to come to the conclusion that sexual attraction towards children is a very negative aspect of a segment of humanity then you probably need to be put down.

>> No.3697086

>>3697080
>I'm not an sjw bro
Yet you simply subscribe to hating someone simply because it's the right thing to do.
Retard.

>> No.3697088

>>3697086
Next you'll say /pol/ is SJW like a broken record who unironically believes in le horshu meme. The only horseshoes around here are the hairlines of these degenerate pedo-sympathizers.

>> No.3697093

>>3697085
If you think a rapist looking to nut in a booty for power gives a shit about the age you need to be lined up against a wall with other retards and shot.
And any rapist who rapes a girl is labeled a pedophile anyway despite them either exclusively or non-exclusively only liking women so it just feeds into your retarded belief.
You're too fucking dumb to see it. Jesus christ. You need to be euthanized.

>> No.3697094

>>3697093
You have a child's understanding of how rape occurs anon. The victim almost always knows the perp and it generally isn't spontaneous.

>> No.3697096

>>3697094
>The victim almost always knows the perp and it generally isn't spontaneous.

are you pulling those stats out of people who got arrested for rape? you fucking autist?

>> No.3697097

>>3697094
Were you raped?

It’s ok you can tell me.
I won’t judge.

>> No.3697099

>>3697097
Yes

>> No.3697100

>>3697094
show me where daddy touched you anon

>> No.3697105

>>3697100
That would be indecent

>> No.3697106

>>3697094
You think that if someone is alone with someone they'll suddenly have the urge to rape someone instead of them actually just being a piece of shit who doesn't care.
Which is more likely? A person who has never had the urge to rape someone that also thinks it's terrible raping a person, or a person who doesn't give a shit about anyone or anything just doing what they want because it feels good?

It has nothing to do with sexuality. Straight men who are in jail for unfathomable amounts of time fuck men in prison despite not being explicitly gay.
>>3697099
Opinion discarded.

>> No.3697108

>>3697106
>actually believing that "yes" was serious
Shadilay brother

>> No.3697109

>>3697108
>Backpedaling
stop

>> No.3697111

It is incredibly puzzling how most boards outside of /pol/ will defend pedophiles to the death. Or perhaps it isn't very puzzling at all.

>> No.3697113

>>3697111
the /pol/ tards are the ones defending pedophiles

>> No.3697117

>>3697111
it really isnt
not everyone defends literal thought police

>> No.3697122

>>3697111
>>3697113
Child rapist =/= pedophile
Typical retards just buying into blind hatred without considering these people are actual people who aren't stripped of their morals as soon as they find out. Nor do they start raping children. Just as any straight dude doesn't rape women, or gay man doesn't rape men, a pedophile won't suddenly rape a child.

>> No.3697124

>>3697122
So anon, what will they do then since they can't have a relationship with that person?

>> No.3697126

>>3697038
So you think if the average person were left alone with the gender or person they were attracted to that they would rape them due to opportunity.

Anti-pedophiles are fucking stupid. Really says a lot about you. Not everyone is rapist like you.

>> No.3697127

>>3697126
Anon do you know what the word "might" means? Also >>3697124 answer this anon.

>> No.3697128

>>3697124
Jack off like any lifetime virgin that sits in his room, not fucking women, retard.
You tried though.

Good to know you'd rape women if you were never able to obtain a relationship, you disgusting fuck.

>> No.3697129

>>3697124
what will the vast majority of the foreveraloners here do since they will never have a gf?

>> No.3697132

>>3697128
The pedophile dogs think they're the ones with morals. We live in clown world.

>> No.3697133

>>3697129
Rape women apparently since we know all virgins have lost their virginity.

>> No.3697135

>>3697132
Nice deflection of my taking down your argument. Fucking pathetic.
Maybe it's time for you to go rape a woman since apparently virgins rape women when they don't have a relationship. Fucking retard.

>> No.3697136

>>3697128
>>3697129

>Jack off like any lifetime virgin that sits in his room, not fucking women, retard.

If we starved the entire male race of having sex with females, you think they'd all just jack off and there wouldn't be higher chances of rape?

>Good to know you'd rape women if you were never able to obtain a relationship, you disgusting fuck.

im asexual

>> No.3697138

>>3697124
>>3697127
My fucking sides. You thought that was an actual good argument. You're a future rapist who projects his urges on others.

>> No.3697139

>>3697135
Fuck off Muhammad pedos aren't welcome

>> No.3697140

>>3697136
>Meme sexuality
Figures
Opinion discarded
>>3697139
Another deflection. Thanks for letting me know I blew your retarded ass argument the fuck out.

>> No.3697141

>>3697140
>>Meme sexuality
>Figures
>Opinion discarded

can't handle my argument?

>> No.3697143

>>3697138
I don't know who you're talking to, I'm the second anon you quoted but not the first. I don't understand how saying that people who find children attractive are more likely to rape them than people who do not is so controversial with you people.

>> No.3697146
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3697146

>guys we should prohibit perma virgins
>they are all highly dangerous potential rapists!

>> No.3697148

>>3697143
Rapists are more likely to rape. That's why, retard. It has nothing to do with your sexuality. It's completely individual of it.
I could say the same thing about straight men raping women showing that it's a completely meaningless claim.

>>3697141
No, because anyone can appeal to that and act as if that allows all contradictions you've made. You're braindead.

Even then if I entertain that retarded shit it would just show me you're someone who has no experience of sexual urges telling other people who have actually had sexual urges that they can't control it, which is completely fucking stupid.
>If we starved the entire male race of having sex with females, you think they'd all just jack off and there wouldn't be higher chances of rape?
All men are rapists, huh. lol

>>3697146
It's hilarious. They must be trolling.

>> No.3697149

>>3697146
at this point you're purposely being disingenuous with your arguments, as expected from anyone that browses /pol/

>> No.3697151

>>3697146
Feeling targeted incel? Of course a perma virgin would defend pedos, your best chance is coercing or raping a child you pathetic waste of flesh.

>> No.3697152

>>3697149
This is coming from someone who believes rapists are virgins and is using an argument that if we deprive virgins of sex (Which is something already happening) that they would suddenly lose all morals they were taught and rape women at a higher rate.
>>3697151
cringe

>> No.3697154

>>3697152
>calling something cringe makes it not true
Outed.

>> No.3697155

>>3697148
>it would just show me you're someone who has no experience of sexual urges telling other people who have actually had sexual urges that they can't control it

you're literally putting yourself in the shoes of rapists and pedophiles and telling us how they would act. Why are you okay doing this and im not?

>>If we starved the entire male race of having sex with females, you think they'd all just jack off and there wouldn't be higher chances of rape?
>All men are rapists, huh. lol

are that if you have 0 chance of getting with anyone within a large group of people there would be not a single higher chance of rape?

>> No.3697160

>>3697154
I'm not him, but I am an incel and I can confirm that I haven't raped women, men or children. That's the exact reason I'm arguing the pedophile side. Because I know what it's like to be deprived and still not have urges to rape because I'm not a savage.

>>3697155
>you're literally putting yourself in the shoes of rapists and pedophiles and telling us how they would act. Why are you okay doing this and im not?
I'm speaking an experience of someone who is attracted to women and have not had one single thought of raping them cross my mind once.

Rapists rape. Not pedophiles, straight guys, or gay people themselves. Nor is it indicative.

>are that if you have 0 chance of getting with anyone within a large group of people there would be not a single higher chance of rape?

Not under the virgins that were already going without it. Isn't it typically partners that rape their SOs? The people with partners might be the cause for that spike. Even then it's hard to say hypothetically.

The rapists would rape people. Not people who are normal. I don't know where you get the idea that all men are rapists but it's wrong.

>> No.3697162

>>3697160
I'm just thankful for your confirmation that incels are the primary defenders of pedophiles in this thread and probably on 4chan at large. Whatever you claim your reasoning is, this really sheds some light on the character of people who will die on this hill of defending pedophiles.

>> No.3697163

>>3697162
Ok, bye.

>> No.3697165

>>3697163
Have a good one anon

>> No.3697166

>>3697160
>The rapists would rape people. Not people who are normal.

what differs from a rapists mind and a normal persons mind, how did a rapists mind form in the first place?

> I don't know where you get the idea that all men are rapists but it's wrong.

I never said all men are rapists, I could change that example to women if it hurt your feelings, you don't think women would rape more if they had 0 chance of access to another man?

>> No.3697174

>>3697166
>how did a rapists mind form in the first place?
rapists rape because they dont give a shit
they dont care about the lives of others and their own lives

vast majority of people wouldnt rape just alone because the risk of getting caught isnt worth it

>> No.3697176

>>3697166
>>what differs from a rapists mind and a normal persons mind, how did a rapists
Let's take a look at an article on rapists for a sec.

>Men in prison are often “generalists,” he said: “They would steal your television, your watch, your car. And sometimes they steal sex.” But men who commit sexual assault, and are not imprisoned because they got away with it, are often “specialists.” There is a strong chance that this is their primary criminal transgression.

>More recent studies tend to rely on anonymous surveys of college students and other communities
Men who rape tend to start young, in high school or the first couple of years of college, likely crossing a line with someone they know, the research suggests.

Some of these men commit one or two sexual assaults and then stop. Others — no one can yet say what portion — maintain this behavior or even pick up the pace.

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Antonia Abbey, a social psychologist at Wayne State University, has found that young men who expressed remorse were less likely to offend the following year, while those who blamed their victim were more likely to do it again.

Narcissism seems to work in the other direction, magnifying odds that men will commit sexual assault and rape.
As these once-unpopular, often narcissistic men become more successful, he suspects that “getting back at these women, having power over them, seems to have become a source of arousal.”
Most subjects in these studies freely acknowledge nonconsensual sex — but that does not mean they consider it real rape. Researchers encounter this contradiction again and again.

Asked “if they had penetrated against their consent,” said Dr. Koss, the subject will say yes. Asked if he did “something like rape,” the answer is almost always no

Misinformation, narcissism, negative views of women, etc. seems to be the reason. Nothing to do with virgins.

>> No.3697178

>>3697174
that's a bold claim to make and im sure the psychology community would love to see your research for this

>> No.3697179

>>3697166
>>3697176
Not negative views of women. I'm going to guess people who hate incels are going to turn it on me for wording it that way.

"And this is not a sign that the respondents are psychopaths, said Dr. Hamby, the journal editor. It’s a sign that they are human. “No one thinks they are a bad guy,” she said.

Indeed, experts note one last trait shared by men who have raped: they do not believe they are the problem."

>>3697178
That isn't me.

>> No.3697180

>>3697178
Not to mention the fact that the evolutionary consensus is that rape among primates primarily serves as a last resort mating strategy of which any male is capable of depending on his status in the social hierarchy. These people are deluded if they seriously think that rape is just a randomly assigned character trait rather than an evolutionary strategy with specific genetic and social drivers.

>> No.3697183

>>3697179
> Nothing to do with virgins.

how can you say nothing to do with virgins.

>> No.3697186

>>3697180
That's a myth.
There's no such thing as an uncontrollable urge and this can easily be seen when you type 'rape myths'

"There is no such thing as an uncontrollable sexual urge.

Men do not need to have sex once they are aroused. This is an excuse. Rapists choose to rape. Many rapes are planned. Both men and women are able to stop themselves at any stage during sex. "

Just admit you think all men are rapists.

>>3697183
Because virgins are often timid, the opposite of narcissitic. The qualities that were found to magnify these situation.

>> No.3697190

>>3697180
>rape among primates primarily serves as a last resort mating strategy
bill cosby had enough money to find a partner, didn't stop him from becoming a rapist tho

>> No.3697191

>>3697186
>Because virgins are often timid, the opposite of narcissitic. The qualities that were found to magnify these situation.

So how come rapists aren't just narcissistic virgins and those who are timid are just the ones that don't commit rape?

>> No.3697193

>>3697186
No, it isn't. We observe this among all our closest relatives as well as primitive human societies. Hell, the radically higher rate of rape in African American ghettos in America and Arab immigrant enclaves in northern Europe is just one very visible manifestation of this. I'm going to go with the solid hard sciences rather than some psychologist, but you do you anon.

>> No.3697198

>>3697180
Let me guess. You think a person has as much of a chance of becoming a murderer as any other person, right? lol
If you're dumb enough to believe that by telling me murderers grow up in bad homes, please explain to me murderers that grow up in an otherwise perfect life.
>>3697191
Because a narcissitic virgins falls into the exact category of someone who would typically rape another, which isn't exclusive to fucking virgins, idiot.

>>3697193
I'd rather side with people who have actually studied motivations and taken sample sizes of rape instead of a person who thinks that simply being a virgin boosts your chances of raping someone. Just stop fucking talking.

>> No.3697199

>>3697193
>radically higher rate of rape in African American ghettos in America and Arab immigrant enclaves in northern Europe is just one very visible manifestation of this
As if they wouldnt rape like mad in their own homelands too lmao

>> No.3697202

>>3697198
>Let me guess. You think a person has as much of a chance of becoming a murderer as any other person, right? lol
Not even remotely, there are genetic, social, cultural and perhaps most endocrinological drivers for murder. As with rape it's a very complex behavior affected by a culmination of various factors. Simply attributing either to "big ego no care for others lol" is complete retardation.

>> No.3697203

>>3697198
>Because a narcissitic virgins falls into the exact category of someone who would typically rape another, which isn't exclusive to fucking virgins, idiot.


So then we should worry about narcissitic pedophiles. The only people that won't commit rape are timid pedophile virgins. also you don't need to be a virgin to be a pedophile. Glad we cleared that up

>> No.3697204

>>3697199
I never said that, we know they do.

>>3697202
perhaps most importantly*

>> No.3697206

>>3697202
Christ you're so fucking retarded. You have literal scientists disagreeing with you and you think you're correct. Fuck off.

>>3697203
No, you should just worry about narcissistic people, as they are capable of rape. But whatever helps you blindly hate people I guess.

>> No.3697207

>>3697206
You've quoted a psychologist, not a scientist. Please refer to the evolutionary consensus.

>> No.3697208

>>3697202
You just made two different claims.

>>3697207
I see you're more qualified than a psychologist who probably knows more about this than you do. Glad to know you're absolutely delusional and don't know shit about what you're talking about.

>> No.3697210

>>3697204
>I never said that, we know they do.
then what is even your point? do you think in africa you can't find someone to fuck and thus they have to rape so much? lmao

>> No.3697213

>>3697208
You come off as very misinformed anon and I recommend you stop embarrassing yourself.

If you actually want to reach an understanding of this subject, the works of Randy Thornhill and Craig Palmer is probable an ideal starting point for you. They are a biologist and an anthropologist respectively.

>> No.3697215

>If a large group of the men are kept from sex the rape rates will go up
>What is Japan.
Man, women are fucking stupid. Why the fuck are you whores so scared of virgins?

>> No.3697217

>>3697213
are probably*
I'm shamelessly phoneposting atm

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>>3697213
"Although they argue that rape is biological, Thornhill and Palmer do not view it as inevitable. Their recommendations for rape prevention include teaching young males not to rape, punishing rape more severely, and studying the effectiveness of "chemical castration." They also recommend that young women consider the biological causes of rape when making decisions about dress, appearance, and social activities. Rape could cease to exist, they argue, only in a society knowledgeable about its evolutionary causes."

Lol

>> No.3697219

>>3697215
This. That anon is retarded. If anything, an abundance of sex with multiple partners increases the likelihood of rape. Rape is a decision, not an urge.

>> No.3697221

>>3697215
Another good example of a large virgin/incel population is India though, and they have ridiculous rates of rape.

>>3697218
I don't see what's funny. This backs up everything I said, a focus on evolutionary pressures is vital.

>> No.3697226

>>3697221
It says it's not inevitable and can be prevented by education, which was a point I made about misinformation above.
You're focusing purely on it being biological, meaning that you're implying, like you did several times, that men would rape more, provided that they were kept from having sex. This directly contradicts that. Saying that by simply informing males we could prevent it even further.

>> No.3697227

>>3697221
>Another good example of a large virgin/incel population is India though, and they have ridi
Ok? This is under the implication that all of society will be poor, which is the case for india and African America communities, as it's been found that being poor correlates with low IQ, and low IQ is correlated with more crime.

Japan is the perfect society to point to, as it's the place that is comparable to America or Europe in terms of civilization. If you need to compare the lowest of the low to the likes of america then you can suck a fat cock you delusional bitch.

>> No.3697228

>>3697221
>virgin population is huge
>rate of rape is off the charts

Something is wrong with your idea there bud.

>> No.3697229

>>3697226
You're misrepresenting what I said. First of all I never claimed that rape is inevitable, second I specifically said that behaviors like rape and murder are complex because they're affected by a plethora of factors such as social standing, genetics and epigenetics, endocrinology, culture and so on. My entire point was that reducing it to simply "he just decides to rape because he has a big ego" is foolish because it doesn't provide any explanation for the origin of said decision.

>> No.3697230

>>3697221
>, and they have ridiculous rates of rape
India is also a country which can't even use toilets.

>> No.3697231

>>3697228
Good catch lmao.
What a retard.

>> No.3697232

>>3697227
>america
>civilized
lmao

>> No.3697234

>>3697228
I think you've misunderstood. I was arguing that lack of access to sex is almost definitely a contributing factor to make the decision to rape for some men, the other anon was arguing it has no effect. We respectively used Japan and India as examples of our points.

>> No.3697237

>>3697228
>>3697234
Nevermind I'm retarded, fair enough. Just pretend I omitted the "virgin" for the sake of argument though. Incel is still a valid term.

>> No.3697243

>>3697234
>lack of access to sex is almost definitely a contributing factor to make the decision to rape for some men
how do you wanna know indians rape because they get no sex? could also just be because they have shitty genes

>> No.3697244
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>>3697234
I think you’re glossing over a logical fallacy here. You cannot have massive virgin populations and massive amounts of rape, unless most of the raping is done by non-virgins, which still contradicts your claim. You have zero evidence. You’re just spewing conjecture based on studies that don’t even apply to humans because we’re conscious beings capable of understanding that rape is cruel and unnecessary. Just give up, man, and talk about art instead.

>> No.3697245

>>3697229
Do you know what the claim 'if men are all deprived of sex there will be more rape implies'? Just because you didn't directly say it doesn't mean that the meaning is unknowin by me. But of course you hide behind that.

>My entire point was that reducing it to simply "he just decides to rape because he has a big ego" is foolish because it doesn't provide any explanation for the origin of said decision.
The exerpt I posted directly fucking contradicts that that notion. If you read the parts of the article that I posted and my comments after it, I said 'narcissism, misinformation, and lack of remorse amplifies' it. That directly ties to it. I don't see how you can look at what I posted from the summary of the book you recommended to me and still extrapolate how it's about social standing, genetics and epigenetics when they directly say the best way to prevent it is to educate people about it and punish it.

>>3697237
It's not a surprise you use the word incel. Follow those trends, you no personality dolt.

>> No.3697247

>>3697244
I forgot we were in ic.
Apparently we're comparable to primates directly despite our ability to introspect, build societies, regulate them to the point where rape is at a minimum and have sympathy for rape victims to the point of delusion. Not sure how their brains work.

>> No.3697248

>>3697237
Where is your fucking proof then? Don’t just make shit up because you’ve made a paper thin observation and jumped to conclusions about the nature of men. At most, incels think they can rape, but their hatred of women is defined by an immature bitterness that bites them in the ass when it comes to actual confidence and strength, things needed to rape someone. Maybe I’m making assumptions here too, but the worst I’ve seen incels do is fat-finger their keyboards to indirectly affect women.

>> No.3697250

>>3697248
>Maybe I’m making assumptions here too, but the worst I’ve seen incels do is fat-finger their keyboards to indirectly affect women.
It's personality by the way. Shaming fat people and virgins must be the qualities women enjoy in men.

>> No.3697251

>>3697247
>not sure how their brains work
Then why the fuck are you talking like you do? Rapists are not apes. They are human beings that make conscious choices. Stop making excuses for terrible people.

>> No.3697253

>>3697251
I was talking about your brain retard.

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>>3697253
In what way, in any of that jumbled mishmash of a statement, did you remotely refer to my brain?

>> No.3697259

>>3697255
Wow, you got me. You're intentionally being dense after I've explained the intention. Kiss my ass you dishonest piece of shit.

>> No.3697260

>>3697259
what an autistic bitch

>> No.3697268

Was wondering what sort of bait was blowing this thread up, ofc it's pedoshit.