/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>3694577
the kind of art that can get you rich enough

Not your chicken lines. I need a Chad with long thick lines.

>>3694577
>What kind of art improves your chances of getting a gf on tinder?
memeschlock my dude

>>3694577
Art will not get you a gf, you should've gone with music.
Artists = nerds
Musicians = jocks

no seriously, im with OP. lets think here for a second. and maybe get a girl's opinion. would you like a guy more if he drew dragons or space marines or landscapes or robots or girls or what?

>>3694635
You again?! Get outta here!

>>3694577
body building

>>3694653
>would you like a guy more if he drew dragons or space marines or landscapes or robots or girls or what
i would pick the hottest guy

>>3694668
I don't know why this even needed to be said /thread

>>3694668
fag

>>3694668
what makes him hot? his muscles, money, hair, face, height, or what?

>>3694673
All of what you listed.

>>3694677
i wanted a real girl's opinion

>>3694653
>no seriously, im with OP. lets think here for a second.
make art that they'd want or like to make and/or that relates to their interests or aesthetic sensibilities.
>would you like a guy more if he drew dragons or space marines or landscapes or robots or girls or what?
probably none of those tbphwyf. Like when you think of the kind of shit that girls hang on their walls, do you generally see a lot robots or space marines?

Have you ever put much thought into like emphasizing with other people? Like imaging yourself in their position, with their interests and
life experience and stuff? When you think of the average girl's media interests are you really imagining that she'd really be into dudes that draw waifus and robots and space marines and shit?

And of course there are grils that like that shit but if you're talking about making art that would appeal to tinder sloots, drawings of space marines and robots and non-GOT dragons would probably actually hurt you.

Shit that may improve your chances would probably be like funny (non-anime) cartoons, paintings or other traditional media that is more than just pencilling, and subjects that are either things they like or things that can decorate a room. Animals, scapes, portraits, still lives, etc. And they do like stuff with girls as subject matter as long as it's not overly-sexualizing.

>>3694661
pfft I was leaving anyweigh

>>3694673
the most good looking one simple as that

tinder is especialy a platform for quickly sorting people based on looks alone

>>3694682
I'm a girl.

I'd probably prefer a guy best if he didn't draw any sort of obscene anime fetish art. Or like the anime styles where its balloon boobs and lolis. All other art would probably get you a girlfriend as long as it was good and wasn't too anime. I guess I wouldn't really know, I've never dated an artist type. They're all either gay or too liberal in the area I'm in.

oh well, dont want a girl who dates random guys anyway

probably going to save up and buy a wife from china or some other place

hate going on dates anyway, all the girls are arrogant anyway

>>3694724
Well I hope you have fun jerking yourself off to sleep and thinking about how women have wronged you. You'll never find a girlfriend if all you look for in a girl is an anime babe who dates guys she knows and isn't arrogant and is always submissive.

>>3694577
Actually being a decent human being, it isn't hard you robot

>>3694735
>just b urself

>>3694577
Clean minimal line illustrations of figures and flowering plants with blotchy water coloring. One piece baiting suits and no anime boobasaurus’s.

>>3694732
i didnt say anything about anime. im not OP if thats what you thought.
lack of warm hole is not an issue. i never said she has to be submissive, in fact id hate it if she didnt speak her mind.
just want to raise a child

>Tinder
Why not just get some nerd nintendo gf or some shit? You're going to one to one of the normiest places on earth, but you're an autist.

>>3694764
Where do you even find qt Nintendo nerd gfs in a shithole like London let alone break the ice with someone like that? Srs question.

>>3694766
Online date. or date a nice fat chick.

>>3694577
Anything, really.

Girls are like vapid little moths fluttering along in boredom. They’re attracted to the guy who’s like a bright light that suddenly sparks up their world with this interesting thing that’s different from what they normally see.

>>3694812
Is everyone on 4chan a "nice guy?"

>>3694812
As if men are any less vapid. They just want a nice pair of tits and a big ass.

>>3694818
No. You're thinking of reddit.

>>3694766
Are you serious? Are you fucking serious?

Good fucking hell entitled anglo pieces of shit dont know shit bout how others have it fucking cuck.. YOU LITERALLY LIVE IN LONDON.
ONE OF THE BIGGEST URBAN HUBSPOTS IN EUROPE
LITERALLY ONE OF THE BIGGEST VIDYA MARKETS.

THERES ANIMATION STUDIOS, VIDEO GAME DEVS, ARTISTS.

Piece of useless waste of bloody fuckin oxygen, get out of your basement you fuck. You have conventions literally everywhere. Game shops littered like rat shit and pakis.

Try living in an ACTUAL shithole like a bumfuck nowhere coutryside. Or a desert. Fuck you're dumb. This is why you dont have a gf, ninty or not.

>>3694820
I'd actually like a bit more than that both those are nice-to-haves. I can tell ypu that no amount of tits and ass thou gonma make me appreciate a moth girl thou.


Huh.

Moth girl. Thot girl. Mhot girl. I like that.

i'm so lonely and HORNYYYYYY AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH I WANT A MOMMY GIRLFRIEND AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>3694828
>Moth girl. Thot girl. Mhot girl. I like that.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA go on, keep going. This is hilarious.

>>3694820
I'm the girl from earlier. Women just want a guy who isn't a total creep and will treat them right, and someone who isn't too focused on looks. Ask most women and that's what they will say unless they're superficial and hot, but if you're a 4chan user you probably couldn't get a superficial hot girl anyways.. Those demands aren't hard its called just being a nice person.

>>3694829
I fucking love posts like these. Absolute Quality.

>>3694826
Why are you so angry?

>>3694834
I have all this, but I still don't have a gf what am I doing wrong?
I also have not left home since I dropped out of high school serious question here

>>3694852
>I also have not left home since I dropped out of high school.

Wow reminds me of myself until my dad pressured me to get a job. Fast forward to right now where I'm getting paid to fucking browse 4chan for 8 hours working at a hotel. The wagecuck meme is not always the case.

If you don't have a job I suggest you get one as it will improve your situation provided you don't stay in a shit job and keep moving up until your time/money ration is satisfactory. Also it will help you get a gf because of obvious reasons like exposure to new people and you will develop social skills if you don't already have them.

>>3694577
Just be good at drawing and be attractive. I lift every day and have a few pictures of myself at the gym and I have one drawing on my tinder and get matches every day. I stopped using tinder cause I found a gf tho.

>>3694852
If you're an artist you should try going out to starbucks and sketching things, or going out to public parks and painting. Especially if you're in a highly populated area. Girls will talk to you probably most likely, or god forbid you'll make some friends. You just need to stop being such a pussy, get off of 4chan, and learn how to talk to other people. Also, GET A JOB!

Worst comes to worst you could online date. OR, maybe you think you're nice but you're not actually nice. Take a nice guy buzzfeed quiz lol.

>>3694834
> women
> knowing what they want

>>3694829
Thank you based lonely and horny poster. You always make these shitty threads worthwhile.

>>3694866
don't have starbucks in my city but i know what you mean

>>3694857
I will try to get a job when christmas and new year pass i'm just focusing on my art gainz right now

>be me
>be good at art
>match with models

idk why this is so hard for you guys

>>3694885
your art sucks

>>3694888
probably good enough to draw you and then some

>>3694888
>girl from earlier
who?

>>3694892
>and then some

>>3694899
what I lack in appearance I make up for in penis size and manners

>>3694888
White girls will lambast a white guy for liking black girls on the internet, then act like utter retards on the internet and in person in the name of seeming "cool" and "hip" like black women. I bet you talk about "tea" and say "yasss" unironically.

>>3694888
Something tells me this roastie is a blackfisher

>>3694820
It’s just a good mindset to have. Don’t dwell on it, just let it be a general direction to guide yourself in.

>>3694852
That’s the problem, dude. You’re a high school drop out who lives with his parents and doesn’t have a job. That’s the fuck boi trifecta right there. If by chance you smoke pot than you’re the literal stereotype of “guy she does not want to fuck/would be totally ashamed to tell her friends she fucked.”

No offense, I’ve been there myself and known many people who were too, but the only ones that ever pull themselves out of it are the ones that clean up their act and try to succeed. The ones that sit at home and think “I’m a good guy, why can’t I get a chick.” Never do.

I’ve got 4 buddies still stuck there and they’re almost 30. One lives with his Daddy and watches anime all day - no job and on unemployment. One lives with his Daddy and works at fast food after flunking out of college for the third time, One is a couch surfing hippy that lives in a rundown shack out in the woods with other hippies, and the last one lives with his brother and his brother’s wife and spends all day sitting around being a NEET.

It won’t get better until you make it get better. This message has a habit of getting lost in the haze and being ignored but if you’re really trying to listen believe me when I tell you this can last for the rest of your life, you can die an old weirdo who never got anything or did anything with their life. You’re being rushed downstream in the river of life right towards it, and if you don’t start swimming away from it as fast and hard as you can that’s exactly where you’re going to wind up.
>>3694883
I get why you’d want to wait, but trust me when I say I’ve never seen it work out for the guys that did. Get a damn job now and start making your life better.

>>3694980
holy fuck i didn't even know i needed to read this i don't even know what to answer man

>Trying to get a gf with art

Gonna make it.

>>3694980
Any guy can get laid, it's who you get to fuck that matters. I'd say that anon is better off pursuing art so he can fuck top tier women rather than work as an accountant and fuck an old hag for the rest of his life.

And that's coming from a guy that doesn't mind fucking an old hag for the rest of his life.

>>3695006
"Pursuing art" doesn't have to be not having your GED, not having a job, and living with your parents, though. He can pursue art and have a job and not be such a worthless sack of shit. If anything that would HELP him have a career because at least then he can have some communication skills and some experience in customer service or whatever, depending on the job he gets.

>>3695002
The best answer of to take the advice and improve yourself. Let me see you a year and a half from now in an entirely different situation with a whole new path you’re walking.

>>3695006
It’s not one or the other. You can pursue your artistic endeavors while also having a job and improving your life. That will get him to having a GED/Diploma, his own place, a girlfriend, and maybe even be working on an education if you want to while still getting good at drawing.

If he’s really dedicated he can get to the point where he can start living off his artwork. Then he can do whatever he wants, but you’ve got to start somewhere and you’ve got to start now.

>>3695021
>>3695030
boomer tier advice

the only way to make art your job is to make art your job.

>but I don't make any money when I make art because nobody buys it

boo fucking hoo. get fucking better then. throw your whole fucking life away until you're better. who cares if boomer-anon thinks you're a "worthless sack of shit" for working on art and making no money.

fuck other people's opinions of you. there's always money you can make, but who's to say you aren't worth more than boomer-anon is giving you credit for. What if your art is amazing but retards on the internet can't tell because they're too focused on you not working at McDonalds and having a fat girlfriend like they do.

the "white incel neet" meme is just something people with no passion or personality tell each other to feel better about their own pathetic boring lives.

Get good at art and shut these fuckers up, that's my advice to you.

>Focusing on women at all
Ahahahahahahahaha I’m so glad I realized relationships are cancerous and focused completely on my art.

>>3694668
the fact that this even needed to be said says a lot about this board.

>>3694852
>what am I doing wrong?
>I also have not left home since I dropped out of high school
this is a joke right? you literally just answered your own question

>>3695049
Well I hope he has a great life of leeching off of his parents while they wait for him to make some form of income.

>>3695067
as someone who made it by doing that, how's flipping burgers going for you?

>>3694577
There's not such thing, fag.

>>3695067
>not realizing that this was the situation of a fucking shitload of successful artists throughout the entirety of history
Most artists in basically every dis discipline either had parents wealthy enough to where their children didn’t have to work and could be sent to art school or could focus on their craft while living off them. It’s not some shocking insight or discovery. Life isn’t fair, and if you have to support yourself monetarily before your skill level can, that’s some real hard luck that only the hardest of workers dig themselves out of.

>>3694577
Trust me, no art gains will help with tinder. What you want to do is get into an environment where various qt’s will see you arting. So, life drawing classes, outdoor plein air, gallery shows, etc.
All this just gives you an opportunity to interact and slight status boost. Or you could skip the art and just go chat to girls like a normal person.

>>3695077
Vincent van Gogh lived on brother-welfare his entire life.

If you want an example of someone that literally toiled from the depths it was Paul Gaugin.

Both parents died when he was young. Joined the navy. Worked as a stockbroker's assistant. Was a patron to Impressionists with his money. Bought art lessons from the artists who had a privileged upbringing, and needed money enough to offer this stock market guy some art lessons so he'd leave them alone. Sold enough paintings at auction to move to Tahiti and paint in the tropics with hot Tahitian ladies.

By all accounts van Gogh and Gauguin had equally terrible lives, and hold an equal place in art history, but nobody begrudges van Gogh for having financial help from his family, and nobody begrudges Gauguin for being a wheeling and dealing slimeball. Both of their lives were equally complete shit. If you want to be an artist your life sucks regardless of whether you're Donald Trump's son or an orphan, and art history doesn't really give a damn either way.

>>3695082
For fuck's sake, Lucian Freud was from a family wealthier than all of ours on this board combined, and does this man look fucking happy to you? Art fucking sucks. Just nut up and do it. Nobody fucking cares about your life if you're an artist, they just care about the art.

>>3695082
Did someone say TAHITI?

I want sex i want sex i want sex

>>3695070
My life is going as great as it has in a long while. I work at a doctors office and spend downtime sketching on the job, while also being in a happy relationship with my boyfriend whom i met on the job, and I also live with my three best friends and spend a lot of time focusing on my art more recently. If life works out in a way where I can instead make a career out of my job then I will be happy, and I am trying to work myself to it. It feels wonderful being independent.

>>3695077
If this guy is wealthy enough to the point where leeching off of his parents is good enough for him, then so be it. I just hope a life of no work experience and living with his parents mid into his 20s makes him happy.

>>3695077
i'm poor af so i have to work anyways and my social skills are kinda lacking so would be good if i work
im still thinking what the anon said

>>3695097
>one day I'll be an artist
That's the easiest position to be in to judge people who are actively Artists. Trust me if you ever actually decide to work hard at it you'll realize how insignificant all these things that you think make you happy actually are.

>stability
>boyfriend
>best friends
>money

If you knew what being an artist meant you'd know that even bringing these things up means nothing

If your art sucks nobody cares how "adult" you and your other twenty something friends are. Your art still sucks.

>>3694826
This. I couldn't believe my eyes when I read this guy's post. I live in a fucking 7000 people city in Europe. I'd kill to live in London (except I can't cause I failed at life and don't have any skills and barely enough money to survive)
Millenials are losing all will to try, when they paradoxically have the most possibilities to try different things.

>>3694861
>Just be good at drawing and be attractive

Don't confuse attractive with natural good looks tho.
Being healthy and not socially retarded tops good looks and make you attractive. Your attitude and vibe in general, etc

>>3695097
I don’t understand. You work in an office and you’d be happy making that your career (if I read you correctly). Why on earth would you think someone who’s serious about art as a career shouldn’t take advantage of a free place to live and train, so long as they’re actually doing that? It’s great that you’ve found independence or whatever, but you’re a hobbyist. Your goal obviously isn’t to live off your work.

>>3694834
Don't take it badly, that's what women think they want. And they do, but not only. (Most) women like rollercoasters of emotions, and they're heavily fragmented. Often lying to themselves (men too but in a lower degree cause society isn't expecting the same things from them, and make it easier to have different characters without being a jerk/bossy/slut etc).

I might be wrong but that's my take on it, from life experience + a few self development people
Not even sure if I'm clear cause ESL, but tell me what you think if I'm wrong.

Also guys that "are not total creeps + not focused on looks" are usually invisible for most women because they're too much in their head.
Now that I think about it, maybe it's the case for non-superficial women, too. Even if they have an advantage in that it's easier to find a partner when you're a woman (not being mad about it, it's just the truth, you usually have nothing to do to be approached as a woman, when men have to do a shitton of work and have less choice)

>>3695121
I'll add that being genuinely pasisonate about something, going for it and comunicating it is one thing that works. It can be drawing or anything else. It's just having that light in your eyes that makes your more alive and attractive.

>>3694577
AAAAHHHHHHHHHH GODDAMMIT I AM SO LONELY AND HORNY

>>3695124
Didn't proof read. I meant that if I can make a career out of my art that would be nice, and it's what I'm working on doing now while I also try to maintain a stable and happy life by supporting myself financially.

>>3695113
You're acting as if I expressed that I wasn't an artist/was an artist with terrible art. I am an artist with decent art that I am trying to build up. I am working hard at it while supporting myself, is my point. While supporting myself I have made myself closer to the people around me/made new friends. If I were to have stayed with my parents I probably would have been shut in all day and been unhappy.

Look, if you want to live off your parents then it's fine by me. I'm not trying to judge. I guess all I'm trying to say is that if the previous guy got a job he probably would find himself less shut in and it would be easier to get a girlfriend/friends in general. Maybe he would be happier if he put himself out there and didn't live off of his parents. I just hope he finds whats best for him.

>>3695127
I just think that you've had some bad experiences with relationships/women and you're taking it out on them by judging them as a whole. I know it's probably hard to believe that coming from me because I am a woman, but dear god the amount of girls I've been friends with who have cried on my shoulder because of the guy they've dated sent them on an emotional rollercoaster is unreal. Maybe it seems that women love a mysterious guy who mistreats them because that's what you've read on 4chan or seen in movies, but in the end women just want a guy who doesn't only want sex out of them and makes them happy. That's what most of them want.

This is going to sound feminist of me but the reason why women usually are the ones being approached is because all throughout society men are always the ones to be expected to be the big brave breadwinners, which also means they're going to have to be the ones who approach women and strike up conversation with them. I'm not saying I agree with it but that's just how it is, maybe?

>>3695135
yeah I know im just getting defensive cause I live with my parents and haven't had any success with art yet. But the OP of this thread wanted to know how to match with girls on tinder, and I've matched with incredibly attractive women simply on the basis of my art, not even a picture of me in my profile other than my drawings and maybe a self portrait.

There are women out there who see themselves as models, and want to be involved in the arts, and actively hunt on tinder for the best artists in their area for them to model for.

I've had conversations with the girls I've drawn where they said they matched with artists who expressed interest in them for dating saying things like "I don't think I would be able to concentrate while drawing you" and the girls unmatched them or blew them off. They don't do that for me because they know I'm serious about art.

I don't sleep with my models, I don't even know if I could if I wanted to even though models have told me seeing me work is a turn-on, but if OP is asking if he can attract women solely from art on Tinder, the answer is yes.


You just have to be good at art.

>>3695150
>Maybe it seems that women love a mysterious guy who mistreats them because that's what you've read on 4chan or seen in movies

I literally have life experience on this, and if you rightfully think I might be biased, I also have experience right under my nose with a few friends I know that are not monsters but really disrespectful of women yet their wives love them and never left them despite all they put up with. I mean, good for them, but what I notice is that if you're careless and/or abusive to a certain degree, you can still be loved without making any work on yourself to be a better human.

That being said, there's also reverse situation with men being "abused".
>This is going to sound feminist of me but the reason why women usually are the ones being approached is because all throughout society men are always the ones to be expected to be the big brave breadwinners, which also means they're going to have to be the ones who approach women and strike up conversation with them. I'm not saying I agree with it but that's just how it is, maybe?

That's how it is indeed (and it's super hard on men, specially when you don't tend to be alpha by nature), partly because of traditions and education, but also partly because of our nature and difference in how gender think and act instinctively.

But maybe things will change in a few hundred years, who knows.

>>3695166
Women who end up in an abusive relationship and then stay in the abusive relationship don't stay because they love the emotional rollercoaster, they stay because they're either afraid to leave or because they're worried that they're not going to get anything better. Women in abusive relationships have low self esteem.

At this point I don't even remember what we are talking about. Women who want to be happy want men who are good to them. I just feel like 4chan users think women are so scummy is because they're virgins who have been rejected because they went for women who are either superficial cunts or were angry that they got rejected by a girl who they were probably creepy to (but possibly unaware of it). I think that was my main point haha.

>>3694577
Music

>>3695183
>I just feel like 4chan users think women are so scummy is because they're virgins who have been rejected because they went for women who are either superficial cunts or were angry that they got rejected by a girl who they were probably creepy to (but possibly unaware of it).

That's certainly a part of the problem. Both "sides" are blind to certain things. But yeah, I went to far again for a simple question and I can't get straight to the point as I usually do when writing. So I'll just go back to drawing. But in the end I think we're both right about certain aspects. We might not see it cause we don't have social circles that shows what the other says I suppose.

>>3695209
Meh, it would be fine if you could trust a woman not to fuck around in a relationship. With Tinder et. al. out there it's impossible to trust them so they're only good for flings.
Only the incels want gf's, and ironically even if they get one, they'll be treated the worst by her.

>>3695228
You think guys don’t do the same shit? See, people like you live in a bubble where the people you identify don’t do any wrong, likely because you only socialize with other guys who feel burned. Meanwhile everyone else in the world realizes that men and women both do fucked up shit in relationships.
t. Guy

>>3695230
Lol, they literally fuck around every time due to hypergamy. Enjoy your relationship tho dude.

>>3695236
>they
Again, guys do this too. You wouldn’t know this because you likely only hanging around other incel virgins who wouldn’t know what it’s like to have the ability to use a woman and throw her away. Attractive women and men both have that capability. You’re just blinded to one side because you feel existentially wounded.

>>3695239
>Again, guys do this too
No shit, but guys don't routinely blow up relationships by actually doing it. A girl will do it, lie about it and not feel an ounce of guilt.

Honestly, you sound inexperienced.

>>3695247
>you sound inexperienced
Says the shut in incel who hasn’t met enough guys to know that they exist too. Keep living in denial, though, friend.

>>3695250
Haha ok, enjoy your 'qt big tiddy goth gf'.

>>3695251
I’ll enjoy living life without a retarded chip on my shoulder because of my own inferiority complex and sexual frustration. It’s pretty nice, anon. Try it sometime.

>>3695254
>I’ll enjoy living life without a retarded chip on my shoulder because of my own inferiority complex and sexual frustration
Pretty specific pitch anon, you sure you're not projecting?

>>3695258
>waaaaahhhh all girls are whores but I’m really mad that they won’t fuck me
You’re doing a fine job of exposing yourself, anon.

>>3695259
kek, believe what you want mate.

>>3695263
It’s okay. One day, probably when it’s too late to even matter, you’ll look back and realize how pathetic your worldview once was. Good luck!

ITT
>perfectly rational white men being called incels by perfectly retarded white women


White women are the absolute lowest common denominator of women. Complete trash. The black men of white people.

>>3694577
(one of the) lonely and horny posters here. I actually hover around 1k tinder matches (deleted it a couple of time) ask me anything

>>3695285
where in SEA do you live?

>>3695263
Have fun being lonely forever. No girl is ever going to want to be with you if you act like that. Whether you're ugly or attractive, no girl will ever truly love you because of your deep rooted hatred for women. You'll never be completely happy in a relationship because no self respecting woman will ever want to be with you, and if they do they'll realize how awful you are and get out. I hope that helps you sleep at night.

>>3695288
US, never been to SEA but got a lot of matches traveling to Japan and across Europe. Most metropolitan cities will get me at least 100 matches.

>>3695304
Different anon but over what length of time

>>3694653

>asking women what they want

>>3695306
since I last deleted tinder? over a year? how much time I spend in each place, about a week.

>>3694820
>Guys just need you to have female secondary sex characteristics
Not true I'd date men too if they were into that sort of thing.

>>3695299
lol naive. You guys are acting like i didn't feel the same way you are posting now. Spent the better part of my 20's believing/wanting that shit.

>>3695299
>anon tells you he hates women
>anon tells you he doesn't care if he's with a woman
>femanon tells him he'll never get a girl if he hates them
>femanon says he'll never be happy without a woman
>femanon ignores anon's disinterest in her horrible gender, instead tells him not only will no woman ever sleep with him, but he'll never be happy without femanons
>"have fun being lonely forever"
>Anon was already planning to
Being lonely forever is the only true fun

>>3695333
Spot on, except I'm not lonely and I don't hate women. The issue is they're incapable of monogamy on any decent timescale, so no relationships and no family.

>>3695336
>broad sweeping generalizations, again
The quickest way to spot unintelligence.

>>3695336
we'll see how long the people who go "waahhh wahhh women disrespected me and now I dont want to be with them :(" act lasts. Maybe its just me because i've never met anyone who wanted to live their whole lives alone, but that just seems unreal. Have u ever thought maybe you're just gay?

>>3695341
>incapable of building mental models of the world or practical heuristics
The quickest way to spot a rote learning lib arts degree holder.

>>3695343
>shaming
chick detected

>>3695344
>mental models consists of classifying every single person that belongs to a gender to a single stereotype based off of the cries of an incel echo chamber instead of large swaths of available, non biased data
Yikes. Talk about low IQ.

>>3695346
see >>3695328

>>3695347
So what you’re saying is that your intellectual capacity for nuance has actually decreased over time. Makes sense.

>>3695349

I like painting boobs but when I try to put my boob paintings on tinder to get more boob models tinder removes them cause they think they're nude photos. Any advice, femanons?

>>3695351
>he unironically likes Jordan Peterson
Ahahahahahahahahaha of course. Go wash your penis and clean your room. Maybe you’ll feel better, bucko.

>>3695345
Facts are facts. I understand people who don't want to be in a relationship, but I don't think this anon is that person. This anon is a nice guy in denial. Hes been a nice guy for so long and his nice guy tricks havent worked on anyone, so hes just angry and giving himself a break because boo hoo women are cunts. He hates women in the moment but will probably get over it once his mom dies or something. Lets hope so.

>>3694647
based

>>3695355
Haha dude, she's literally doing the same shit as the interviewer jordan peterson was on.
>>3695357
Post tits

>>3695363
Quit samefagging, pathetic incel. Your broken ideology isn’t even safe on 4chan anymore.

>>3695371
which posts am I meant to be samefagging? We're just having a hearty discussion about whether i'm gay/incel/foreveralone/dumbass

>>3695351
Jordan Peterson is a paid agent of influence for the Kochs. He sells an ideology that promotes disaffected virgins to radicalize against women, ensuring that they stay miserable and alone, making them more compliant and supportive of corporatist policies that exploit them.

>>3695374
take your meds /pol/

>>3695376
Not him, but he's right you know.

>>3695352
Damn, I absolutely adore your style. What's your instagram?

Put some censor bars over her tits and youll be fine.

>>3695381
>What's your instagram?
begone thot. If you see me on Tinder though I'd love to get coffee with you sometime :D

>>3695384
Sure thing, Brian.

>>3695395
owo


(so i can paint your boobs afterwards)

>>3695400
I have a cock but you can suck that when you’re finished painting it

>>3695400
I'd like to see you try.

>>3695403
this ones the girl
>>3695404
this ones the guy

>>3695157
what drawings? did you put nude figure drawings in your profile? portraits of girls? fucking flowers and hills? WHAT!?

>>3695157
Come on anon, after that story you gotta post samples of your work, or at least similar quality work.

>>3695445
right now it's some couches, a dog, a portrait of a girl, and this one >>3694885

I match with a lot of shortstack titty monsters which is fine by me, but a lot of people are too far away for it to be worth them coming to where I live. the model that I'm painting the most right now lives close

>>3695454
I can't imagine the shit you pull out of your ass when you're talking to girls about art. You're the acoustic guitar player of artists.

>>3695466
it's more a craft than an art. I just kind of spray my words all over their faces

>>3694653
I want him to be capable of drawing cute girls because then we can draw cute girls together and bond over our love of drawing cute girls

>>3695473
now that's what i wanted to hear

>>3695473
but what if YOURE a cute girl tho!?!?

>>3695482
go away horny poster, this is a board for art discussion

>>3694577
unironically portraits of famous people. When you do boring as fuck charchoal portraits of Bob Marley and Kurt Cobain you are going to get some tail.

Except if you are not looking for a normo, but you are looking for a artsy type GF. Then you should just doodle some vaginas very poorly with paint and come up with pretentious shit like "this painting embodies femininity" etc. crap.

>>3695489
>telling the most based poster on this entire board to go away
BE GONE THOT!

>>3695473
The types of girls who want to draw "cute girls" (aka anime girls with big tits/ass or lolis) are greasy fat girls who probably love undertale. That's a little harsh but it describes all the members of the anime club when I was in high school.

>>3695490
this is terrible advice

>>3694716
Would you date a fascist artist

>>3695506
Depends if they're a feminist or not

>>3695494
see >>3687177

you were probably thinking of amerifat girls
there are plenty of girls from other countries who aren't fat

>>3694716
maybe you just don't like anime? don't project your personal tastes on entire gender. plenty of girls watch anime.

>>3695533
You're probably right, I hate anime.

I'm female.
General:
I love the marvelous work in the occasional favorite paintings threads here.
Note: Things done well in general often earn admiration, and might be enough to stimulate interest if both tastefully placed (a gallery link, for example) and discovered by females in a dating venue.

Moderately specific:
Art made by one who's comfortably passionate in their work and sure in themselves and their work.
Secondary aside: Some small level of skill and experience might broaden your ability to candidly showcase these facets day by day.

Specific/targeted:
Art that appeals on a very personal level to females at the individual level.
Specific example: Can only use myself. If your art felt just like mine, I would find you intriguing. This might precede attraction.

Hope this helps you.

>>3695601
thank you that helps
i myself adore girls who are better than me, but really despise if they put their mug in front of their art, like those insta thots who do celebrity copies

>>3695614
Dude stop listening to what chicks say, they’re silly

>>3694686
this

>>3694673
If you have to ask...

>>3694686
>>3694635
>his paintings get better and better everyday while i just shitpost and wont improve at all
Oh no...No no no no

>>3694686
samefagging faggot. saged and hidden comment like all your shit threads

>>3694820
speak for yourself uneducated normie redneck furry faggot

>>3695121
>Being healthy and not socially retarded tops good looks and make you attractive. Your attitude and vibe in general, etc

keep telling yourself that lmao

>>3694861
>I lift every day and have a few pictures of myself at the gym

what are you, gay?

>>3694903
too bad nobody cares about that. Also assuming other guys are dicklets is pretty rich

>>3695796
keep telling yourself that the reason you're alone is because of things you have no control over.

Not to mention that very few people are actually THAT "ugly." Even if you have a busted face but you're in shape and take care of yourself you're "attractive" to a lot of people.

But when you sit around self-agitating on the internet, you eat like shit, you're out of shape, and you don't do anything interesting, while telling yourself that it's not your fault that no one will fuck you, you're guaranteeing that you're only going to get worse.

Your mindset is way uglier than your greasy fat face ever will be.

>>3695084
based

>>3695803
>But when you sit around self-agitating on the internet, you eat like shit, you're out of shape, and you don't do anything interesting
honestly none of this even matters, this is just the femanon in you getting triggered.

I think your point is more if someone's good conversation and fun to be around it doesn't really matter if they're employed, rich, poor, in school, ugly, fat, handsome, skinny.

It's so rare to meet a guy or girl (on both sides) who is actually genuinely personable and normal, that once you meet someone you get along with who the fuck cares what they look like.

>>3695818
I think what's frustrating is that the subtext of all of these AAAAAAHHHH IM SO HORNY posts is that the people behind them are interesting, well-adjusted, hard-working people. And on an anonymous message board it's easy to portray yourself as anything you want, but I think that fact is most of these guys complaining are just kind of boring. Or mean. Or judgmental. Or any of those things.

And the guys who get a lot of girls and have a lot of sex that they look up to are just as boring, mean, and judgmental. It's just that they also happen to be handsome, so they get to have a lot of sex based solely on that.

I would suggest the anons here instead of aspiring to be a bad person who has a lot of sex with shallow women, which honestly who the fuck wants to be that ("alphas"... cringe) be someone with interests, and good conversation, and maybe learn to be funny, or learn to listen well, or some kind of positive trait that sets you apart from the average butt nuts retarded guy out there.

And stop thinking sex is so important. I haven't had sex in almost a decade but I have plenty of female friends who happily pose nude for me.

If you can't be handsome, be handy.

>>3694577
my non artist gf likes cute art and fanart of animes that girls like (inuyasha, sailor moon, jojo, etc.) drawn in a way that appeals to girls. (

when i say appeals to girls, i mean drawing the male figure in such a way that it's sexualized and makes you feel a bit gay just from looking at it. or just generally art that looks like it was drawn by other girls.

i think the best way to find a girlfriend with similar interests to you is to go to parties and stuff like that. life drawing, sketch groups, stuff like that. also make sure you take care of your skin and wash your back properly. and learn to cook breakfast and make coffee/tea really well.

>>3695818
>honestly none of this even matters, this is just the femanon in you getting triggered.
I'm not the person you were talking to. I'm a mananon. I'm telling you from personal experience. Nobody is interested in lazy boring assholes that are more concerned with justifying themselves and blaming things outside of their control.
>I think your point is more if someone's good conversation and fun to be around it doesn't really matter if they're employed, rich, poor, in school, ugly, fat, handsome, skinny.
Yeah if you're interesting and not retarded and you're not a fucking hassle to interact with, someone will find you interesting. Then the whole rub is that you have to actually put yourself out there and stuff.

>>3695818
>honestly none of this even matters, this is just the femanon in you getting triggered.
I'm not the person you were talking to. I'm a mananon. I'm telling you from personal experience. Nobody is interested in lazy boring assholes that are more concerned with justifying themselves and blaming things outside of their control. Not being malignant and not having an obvious toxic attitude is one of the most important things a lot of the people ITT need to understand.

>I think your point is more if someone's good conversation and fun to be around it doesn't really matter if they're employed, rich, poor, in school, ugly, fat, handsome, skinny.

Yeah if you're interesting and not retarded and you're not a fucking hassle to interact with, someone will find you interesting. Then the whole rub is that you have to actually put yourself out there and try and stuff. The reality is that most the dorks ITT and in general that are butthurt about girls not liking them don't actually spend any time with girls, or anyone for that matter. Just sit around doing nothing and being angry at everyone else about it.

I made abstract art a while back and got a one night stand with a tumblr slut off tinder.

>>3695827
you sound like a twitch streamer

>>3695827
i used to go to groups. i think i scared away girls with my awkwardness and creepiness. im clean and cook, though cause i live alone i do everything.

>>3695834
>don't actually spend any time with girls, or anyone for that matter.
anon, you said many triggering but this line takes the cake.
i can't speak for every guy, but personally i don't interact with girls because i'm shy. i can't help to be embarassed around then. it may come as a surprise to you but guys have feelings too. we are human too. and we're different. and i'm already 33 so it's not "just a phase".

>>3695821
>And stop thinking sex is so important. I haven't had sex in almost a decade but I have plenty of female friends who happily pose nude for me.

incel lol

>>3695834
As a femanon i will date any guy no matter how ugly unless if he has a good personality and is funny. The only area I draw the line in is with morbidly obese people/People nearing 300 LB because I feel like at that point it draws the line from somebody you like to be with to somebody who brings you down with personal eating habits and most likely bad sex. I feel like most girls are this way unless they are supperr hot, which I am in no means hot so maybe I've got it all wrong. If you're looking for an extremely hot chick then you're gonna have to be really attractive because life isn't a hollywood movie.

>>3694577
>doing art in the hopes of getting gf
>gearing your art towards what tindersluts like instead of developing your own style and going with it
Absolutely fucking pathethic. Neck yourself.

>>3695882
>anon, you said many triggering but this line takes the cake.
the idea that any of what I said is "triggering" kind of says a lot about why you're struggling.
>i can't speak for every guy, but personally i don't interact with girls because i'm shy.
Yeah you have to get over that. It's like saying "I don't go skiing because I don't know how to ski." You get better and more comfortable at doing ANYTHING by repeated exposure and experience with it. You can tell yourself you're too "shy" forever and you'll just continuously be reinforcing your decision NOT to make an effort and spiraling into yourself.
>i can't help to be embarassed around then.
Again, you don't interact with them enough for them to be humanized or normalized in your psychology. They're just people like you.
>it may come as a surprise to you but guys have feelings too.
No shit. But your problem is that you wallow in your feelings. You allow your feelings to control your life. This is maladaptive.
> and i'm already 33 so it's not "just a phase".
I mean it can be. You've thoroughly spiraled into reinforcing and rewarding your own self-defeating behavior, but it's never really too late to change your behavior and cognition and stuff. Probably need to make some meaningful life changes though. Playing vidya and shitposting all day and feeling bad for yourself is just going to lead to more of that shit.

Get into shit that gives you confidence and purpose and you won't even give a shit about being "embarrassed" around random fucking people. You have no self-confidence and you use your lack of self-confidence as an excuse not to try, and the lack of trying just makes you even less confident. It's a cancerous self-reinforcing cycle of cognitive behavior that you need to break out of if you don't want it to be a "phase" for the rest of your life.

If you guys think it's hard getting laid in your 20s imagine trying to get laid in your 50s. You damn near have to fix all of a woman's plumbing, rewire her house, and clean her pool just to get her to get coffee with you. And that's assuming she's divorced, you're divorced, and her kids are in college, in which case sex is probably pretty low on your priority list.

>>3696012
This is why you date women who are into older guys exclusively.

All the upside of young girls + wisdom of years so the random women bullshit doesn't influence your train of thought anymore and you're more in control than you ever were in your late teens/early 20s.

>>3695886
This, honest as fuck.

I'm a very attractive guy so I get to fuck hot girls, most of you manlets/chubby boys are gonna have to just date below the tier 1 women in terms of looks.

>>3696012
It's sad how little you guys get laid. At some point you just have to realize that if you're young and havent been laid in 12 years its probably because you're a pussy who cant make a move, or you dont take care of yourself and say creepy Things.

>>3696042
Or maybe, get this, we've got other shit to do

>>3696042
>You guys need to get your dicks wet in a moist slot
>Just stop saying creepy things
Anon, I...

>>3696050
This, I've fucked double digit numbers of different girls, practically all of them 9/10+, at a point you just realize you spent a whole couple days courting some girl you only are sexually attracted to so you can fuck. I'd rather just have a girlfriend who I have a great platonic relationship with and can do art/cuddle with. And maybe fuck occasionally.

>>3696050
Your life of sitting on 4chan all day and making bad art must be a lot more important than taking 5 to 6 hours out of your day to find someone to fuck once a month.

>>3696055
It is you retard. I need to make money at art so I can go to school and learn interesting things that aren't art like becoming a plumber or electrician or learning to dance or animating or playing an instrument or SOMETHING OTHER THAN LEARNING TO TALK TO GIRLS. Nigga! I have friends that are girls. This isn't some mystery of the universe I'm pondering how to unlock. I don't give a fuck. Maybe you need to find something to do during the day other than brag about how alpha you are on a FUCKING ART CRITIQUE FORUM

>>3696062
Also here's a dog I drew that's better than all of your work combined. Maybe you should spend less time practicing how to have kids and more time practicing things that actually take skill you fucking nerd

>>3696062
Sex is just too great to miss out on, but it seems you're such a heightened being that you dont even care about sex! I ain't even bragging it's not like I've had that much sex, I just cant believe that guy hasn't had sex in TWELVE YEARS. Absolutely insane.

>>3696064
Can the femanons here please tell these anonymous alphas how impressive it is they can put their penis in a hole. It's all they're good at. If you don't validate their impeccable accuracy they'll kill themselves.

>>3696064
That dog looks like it was mangled in a woodchipper but OK

>>3696065
Yes I'm a heightened enlightened individual that has lofty dreams to one day be able to fix his toilet without calling a plumber. Maybe the secret to fixing pipes is in a strangers vagina somewhere

>>3696067
Oh my fucking god. This is why I have nude models and you only get to have sex with nude women for three minutes and then they go the fuck home.

>>3696069
I'm the femanon from earlier. I don't give a shit about your nude models the reason they probably don't have sex with you is because they think you're a faggot.

>>3696072
Too bad bitch, if you wanted to fuck me I'd still just try to cum in 10 seconds so I could get on with my day. Enjoy leeching off these pussy ass "alphas" who aren't man enough to treat you like an object and they start to cry after five hours of sex. I'm not a bitch like these other guys on here. I don't care if you cum.

>>3696075
That's probably why you havent had sex in 12 years you absolute fucking incel. Next time a chick tries to have sex with me I'll reject and see if she has the time to stop by your house, It'll be the same as fucking a chick since your dick's probably the size of a baby's clit.

>>3696064
brian, im starting to like you a whole lot more now that you stopped spamming your paintings
we have a lot in common

nohomo

>>3696077
>I'm a femanon
>Now I'm a man
>I'm a femanon again
>Now I fuck chicks with my big dick again
The absolute state of roleplaying in this thread

>>3696077
>I fuck hot chicks with my hot steamy dick
Go back to /fit/ you fucking manlet

>>3696083
My point is its so easy for me to find anybody remotely into me, the next lesbian that comes my way ill just direct her your way because youre such a faggot

>this is the main who’ll paint and fuck your bitch
Based and comfortpilled

>>3696091
bad at painting and ugly, im so scared.

(t.me, good looking and good at painting)

>>3696091
Kerothewolf?

>>3696088
No we get your point it's just not a very relevant point for a board dedicated to posting your work. In the context of this board why does anyone care that you do something other than art? You're overcompensating for your lack of artistic skill by strawmanning your sexual prowess, as if that's got anything to do with anything. Like I said, if you want to talk about sex go to /Soc/ but this is an art forum, and the only way to appear alpha on here is to post good artwork you've made. There is literally no other way to impress me or any other d/ic/k or d/ic/kettes. You could be the emperor of space and if you sucked at art we'd still tell you to read the fucking sticky. On here I have more sway than you, no matter how much you get laid, or how awesome you think you are. You still suck big fat nuts at art. Get the fuck off my board

wtf is going on here

I want a girlfriend with a hime cut.

>>3696094
Also the premise of you being more attractive than me is probably not even true. If you won't post your work at least post yourself

>>3696108
>posting my face on 4chan

turns out im not as retarded as you, either
3:0 so far

>>3696109
It's cause you're ugly

>>3696110
Inb4 alphanon posts him duck facing without a shirt on

>>3696110
lmao

look at these basedboy faces you're pulling

fucking keks
what is this, 4channel? mods please nuke this shit

>>3696119
Ok uggo

>>3696125
so cringy pull your fucking glasses up jesus christ you look homeless

>>3696128
No

>>3696131
lmao youre taking these pictures in public in real time

jesus christ ,how old are you 31? 32?

women shaming men by calling them virgins is cringe tier. you're all ugly under that makeup and wonderbra. you feel threatened when you cant control guys with sex
chads boasting is cringe tier. i never understood what's so attractive about having multiple sex partners. enjoy your std's. women too (sluts)

>>3696135
25, I just look older from years of stress dealing with losers like you

>>3696138
haha im a year younger you look like shit.

>>3696140
THANKS! I FEEL LIKE SHIT!

>>3696142
stop refreshing the page and get to drawing

>>3696140
>commenting on another man's looks
Lol

>>3694673
HEIGHT. FACE. FRAME.

I thought I was on /r9k/ or something for a minute
What the fuck anons

>>3696145
i mean hes spamming pictures of his face that hes taking right now in public and calling me ugly with a shitty bluff its a bit pathetic

>>3696151
Who cares retard

>>3696153
i mean you replied to me first so clearly you do
? stop posting

>>3696158
Okay wife beater dead beat father trailer park burger flipper in the making

>>3696162
mhmm

>>3696164
Oh I'm sorry, you're a handsome artist. I forgot. Theoretically you're me.

>>3696166
stop spazzing out hmm

>>3694577
i'd say photorealism or very detailed zentangles like that Peter Draws guy

>>3696172
Stop posting you've got a lot of catching up to do if you're gonna be better than me

>>3696180
k bud

>>3696185
I believe in you! You're already so sexually powerful, handsome, and talented. Why I imagine in 50 or 60 years you'll be pretty close to where I'm at now.

>>3696191

ITT: poindexters

>>3696196
Come on anon you can do it! I know it seems daunting and that I've got it all figured out but we're all rooting for you here! We're all gonna make it, Alphachan!

>>3696204
you seem upset

>>3696207
1v1 me faggot

>>3696211
i'd rather do something productive while you sit in a cafe taking duckface selfies and typing furiously on your phone trying to prove your self worth on the internet.

25 years old huh?
buh bye

>>3696216
>buh bye
owo yikes

>>3696108
>>3696110
>>3696125
>>3696131
>>3696196
>>3696207

Brian, is that you?

>>3696136
>women shaming men by calling them virgins is cringe tier.
dudes that can't help but project and obsess about their virginity are cringe tier. You make it so obvious when you've got a bunch of embarrassing sexual hang-ups.
>you're all ugly under that makeup and wonderbra
like you're wearing your sexual frustration and angsty bitterness on everything you say.
>you feel threatened when you cant control guys with sex
This is pretty clearly projection. You're lashing out at the concept of women like a threatened animal, in a rant about why you're mad that you haven't fucked anyone.
>chads boasting is cringe tier.
whining about chads is cringe tier.
>i never understood what's so attractive about having multiple sex partners.
means they're more experienced, better practiced, and more fun to goof with. Bringing more to the table than some knownothing weirdo.
>enjoy your std's
enjoy your waifus?

>>3696252
Not him, but the concept of someone inexperienced and who's never had sex is pretty hot since that would mean you'll be the dominant one and pretty much rock their world with an unforgettable event desu.

>>3696136
I never said I was some slut who has had sex with multiple people all the time , I just think its absolutely hilarious 33 year old virgin is making up an excuse as to him not having sex because he's "too busy" when in reality it's because he's the biggest faggot on this whole fucking planet, witchy and definitely proved by posting those ugly fucking pictures of his disgusting putrid malformed face while simultaneously trying to flex on me with his shitty art.

>>3696252
Thanks anon, meet me in the back room and I'll suck your dick.

>>3696246
anime girls are me rest is brian going full autismo haha

does anyone know any good oil painting youtubers? ive been enjoying ceasar santos lately

>>3696276
You might be having a stroke, seek help.

>>3696277
?

>>3694577
I don't know. I don't post on tinder, nor do I want a gf from the internet. I like the woman in the pub, but I don't think a drawing will win her over. A theatre ticket might, though.

>>3695792
cry more cunt

>>3694668
>tfw no amount of beauty in your work will ever make you beautiful irl
am I destined to just look at beautiful things and never be one?

>>3696352
yes

you wouldnt want to date homely girls either, would you

>>3695796
Dude, I literaly have seen this at work IRL.
Do you think anyone, girl or guy, wants to spend time with a beautiful doll rather than someone they actually have chemistry with?
Did you never feel more attrracted by a woman that's "objectively" less beautiful than another one? If you say no to this, then you really need to stop looking at porn and meet actual women.

>>3696252
>dudes that can't help but project and obsess about their virginity are cringe tier.
I'm sorry but that's wrong. Sex is such a huge part of society, it's only natural that you'd get so isolated you'd go crazy if you're a virgin. An d I know it cause I was a wizard before actually work on myself and have sex. Being a virgin is probably one of the most alienating thing (if not the most) in a "sane" society.

>>3695601
>Art that appeals on a very personal level to females at the individual level.

But only females can do this? That's why 99% of male writers can't write decent female characters.
Can you give any examples about what you were thinking?
Anyone who does have that kind of specifics "female art"?
Or is just about "literaly me" comics? Like just spouting commonplaces about daily life?


>Specific example: Can only use myself. If your art felt just like mine, I would find you intriguing. This might precede attraction.

You know yourself and females better than me, but I find that weird : wouldn't a female be more attracted to opposites, complementarity? That's why _most_ women are attracted to men and vice versa.

>>3695882
>and i'm already 33 so it's not "just a phase"
My personnality changed a lot at 35. It might be just a phase.
If you want it to change it's the same idea people tell you about drawing : do what you're afraid of doing. No other way around. Start small, don't worry. People don't care about your failures, they care about themselves. But learn to socialize. We're extremely lucky (or are we?) to have Internet. You can meet people easily without it being too awkaward, on Meetup.com and stuff, if you can't directly talk on dating sites.

>>3696042
>f you're young and havent been laid in 12 years its probably because you're a pussy who cant make a move
Yeah I'm sure that helps people with social anxiety.
That being said you do need a push, for sure. But what you're doing when you say things like is like saying to someone that has chronic depression "just smile" or someone that has vertigo "cmon just jump pussy"

>>3696147
Yes, there are no ugly/average looking celebrities. No small, or chubby either.

You're all going backwards. Just own whoever the fuck you are.

>>3696426
>I'm sorry but that's wrong.
Whatever you gotta tell yourself I guess. Whining and bitching about being a virgin and externalizing all these malignant butthurt feelings at girls is bad for you. It decreases the likelihood of you ever becoming confident or competent talking to grils.
>Sex is such a huge part of society, it's only natural that you'd get so isolated you'd go crazy if you're a virgin.
Not a valid reason to act like a radicalized faggot about it. Fuck a hooker if it's such a crisis point in your life.
>Being a virgin is probably one of the most alienating thing (if not the most) in a "sane" society.
And again this isn't an excuse to be an embarrassing retard about it. Spiraling out into self-pity while you alienate yourself and spend all of your time alone circlejerking about your feelings on the internet ultimately just makes your life worse. There's no value in letting all your impotent rage take over.

>>3695049
>Boomer anon

I’m 24

You guys really know nothing about women or dating, Jesus. Only one thing matters:
>Be hot

>>3696447
When i was younger, all throughout being a 14-16 year old I didn't do anything ever and didn't risk making any friends than I already had because I would blame it on my social anxiety. But then i realized that most people in this world have social anxiety. Everytime i go out and talk to someone I worry about if I am going to say something wrong and have everyone hate me, but I just try my hardest to power through it because If I didn't I would just be sitting at home all the time, jobless, and probably a virgin. Sometimes you just have to power through that shit and even when you're laying in bed at night regretting something you said, at least you can be happy you said anything at all and made some progress . Try not to be a pussy and think about the risk that if you keep shutting yourself in you're going to end up a 33 year old who hasn't had sex in 12 years and posts pictures of their ugly fucking mug to try and win an argument on 4chan.

>>3697404
brian is 25
im 33 and a wizard.

please, dont confuse us

>>3696436
Hey there, -601 here.
As to your first question, sorry, I did wonder whether I should explain what I meant there.
Not "female art" as a unit, rather what this (>>3694686) anon said about looking at each female as an individual.
Example: My subject-related interest is a.i. sci-fi robots and things, but I have female friends who are really into cars and graffiti, or native american culture, or a specific video game's lore, creatures, a specific historical period, legends, mecha, etc. Old non-artist females often appreciate realism, young girls might like things a bit cartoony, younger women might like semi-realism. Males and females appreciate things with a spark to them, things done well.
Females vary in their interests are much as guys, so there is no one subject which is best. Rather, I’d guess the right direction to take for you is something that will both appeal best to everyone in general, and one that will leave you feeling best about yourself as well: go for the subjects that you yourself love, because this will show through in your art: you will bring more energy and enthusiasm into your work, and work the better for it. This will give your work an extra dimension of appeal that you won’t be able to simulate if you forced yourself to work with subjects which feel flat and boring to you.

>>wouldn't a female be more attracted to opposites
I’ve discovered I most appreciate people who think like I do, but I also know females who are attracted to their opposites. Again, tastes vary, and people are generally too complex to be easily parsed. Just be your best self, however you are, (not necessarily Society’s take) and you’ll fill your own skin better and will be nicer to be around, all around. Luck', friend

>>3694653
subject matter doesn't matter, unless you draw the exact kind of porn i'm into, even then it doesn't have much weight
what's attractive is having passion and positive energy for getting better at what you do
a good personality and pleasant presence will always trump the extras and shallow things (ex any hobby)

>>3695121
>being healthy
I failed already. I wish I could care about my health sometimes. I'm perfect for a body horror story.

>>3697404
>Try not to be a pussy and think about the risk that if you keep shutting yourself in you're going to end up a 33 year old who hasn't had sex in 12 years

S-sure, nobody would ever take that risk and end up like that...


;_;

>>3697979
Good news, you can change that any time, at any pace. Just remember that the hardest is getting started, every fucking time. Push behind this.

>>3697979
Actually I've found the trend of people being really hyper-aware of all things health related lately kinda a turn off. Just be yourself, however you are that makes you feel best about yourself and you'll be a much cooler guy than if you tried to fit yourself to contrived partialities

>>3698985
everything about you girls is a turn off except your body
bitch

>>3694647
>t. Played piano for 15 years

Grass is always greener, anon, there’s no hope for musicians either.

It definitely helps in the “getting to know each other” phase and you have a chance to play for them (although be aware access to a piano or your instrument to show off with requires you both to go to your house, you to play in a band, or you to engineer circumstances far harder than I ever was willing to), but I speak from experience saying it doesn’t get you gfs.

>>3695751
It's honestly amazing, but he hasn't improved one bit. Even that one retarded nigger has improved visibly. Jimmy is a textbook dumb basic bitch who shouldn't be attempting to make art in the first place.