/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

Go back to /r9k/ you fucking nigger

No because women are the niggers of gender

>>3676671
Nah not really

>>3676671
I really like Mary Cassatt's stuff but I can't say she made any "difference" in the art world. Art has been a man only thing for so long, it's no surprise.

>>3676671
O'Keeffe?
I like to imagine she spent hours standing over a mirror examining her labia.
More like O'Queef amirite?

Women exist only to reproduce and be put on display in all forms of art. Prove me wrong desu

>>3676703
Hahaha!
My experience is now ruined when looking at her work.
Wait.
It was ruined before this by, wait for it, just looking at it:)

I like looking at the chicks more than the paintings they made.

IDK if she made a "difference", but Kathe kollwitz was legit

>>3676671
Idk but I have two things to say.
1. AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHGGGHGHGHGHGGG I’M SO LONELY AND WANT A GF JUST FOR COMPANIONSHIP AAAAAAAAHHHHGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHGGGGGGGGGGVVVGGHHHH
2. Secondly I would like to comment on how it always annoys me when I see attractive people who are good at art. It’s like, chill out. God already gave you some good ass genes, everything is instantly 10x easier for you can’t you let me have this one thing? But then I realize I’m being a faggot and they probably worked their ass off to git gud while I was wallowing in self pity.

>>3676748
People who are skilled at what they do are often attractive because they take pride in everything they do, including their appearance. It isn't that everything is easy, it's probably just that they apply good work ethic to everything they do in life.

>>3676758
Please tell me you’re not naive enough to believe that?

historically, there weren't many great female painters because they weren't accepted into academies. painter guilds were picky.

>>3676721
most living things only purpose is to reproduce you fucking inbred. including us

>>3676773
Men can make important things besides reproduction, women are just cumdumps and nothing else.

>>3676775
And women can't make important things? Is that some biological phenomenon that no science has ever proven before but you know it?

>>3676768
now there aren't many female painters because of their genetic inferiority

>>3676748
based

>>3676777
Why would a breeding machine do anything actually important to it's species? Their only function is to keep said species population numbers, they are nothing of value to the intellectual or artistic fields.

>>3676778
based

>>3676764
ayami kojima was a fujoshi

Artemisia Gentileschi is my waifu forever and had more talent and aesthetic technical prowess in her spent tampons than any of you ngmi nerds will ever hope to eek out of your entire pathetic lives. Don’t (you) me.

incels are the fucking worst

>>3676806
Anime...SLAM!!!

Well, Helene Schjerfbeck (1862-1946) is one of the most beloved and celebrated artists from my country and I adore her work. One of my biggest inspirations and I'm a dude.

What are you people trying to prove here anyway? I love this NGMI circle jerk of virgins we always see in these threads. I'm sure that the lack of really well known female artists in the past has a lot to do with the political climate and shit like that. Women weren't accepted to a lot of art academies in the past and their art wasn't taken seriously even if it was good.

If your sense of self-worth is so fucking low that you need to feel a sense of superiority because of arbitrary physical attributes you were given at birth... Well. I don't really know what to tell you. Go talk to a professional about your problems or keep reading those self-help books that tell you that you're very special boy. "People just don't understand me and the 'feminazis' are out to get my balls." Lol. You don't have balls!

Zinaida Serebriakova, Pretty talented artists from the soviet union. She makes some pretty detailed paintings of everyday people and painted people from Russia, France and Morocco.
http://www.all-art.org/art_20th_century/serebriakova1.html

>>3676748
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH I DONT EVEN CARE ABOUT SEX I JUST WANT TO PLEIN AIR WITH A GIRL AND HOLD HER HAND AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA GODDAMMIT

>>3676896
That painting was made over a decade before the Soviet Union was founded-most of the others featured predate the Soviet Union as well. It would be more accurate to say she's from Tsarist Russia honestly.

>>3676831
My mouth was actually agape looking at these works. Thank you for sharing.

>>3676914
same
I was mirin the second I expanded img

>>3676914
>>3676927


NP guise. Happy you found her. We've had a few pretty cool artists up here (Finland) but she just might be my favorite.

>>3676671
Frida Kahlo
Georgia o'keefe
lee Krasner
yayoi kusama
jenny holzer
barbara kruger

>>3676781
What’s it like being a failure of a man? At least females can easily reproduce. Yet you struggle to even draw your waifu right. Good thing you will never contribute to the gene pool.

>>3676912
True, She left Russia soon after became soviet so you can't really call her a Soviet artist. But communist Russia definitely had an impact on her art.

>>3676758
more like people that are good at what they do often look like hell because they're monomaniacs who get so hyperfocused that they forget to bathe and groom for days on end.

IT DOESN'T MATTER TO YOU OP BECAUSE BY THE MERE ACT OF MAKING THIS THREAD YOU'VE PROVEN THAT YOU'LL NEVER AMOUNT TO ANYTHING, SO DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT.

>>3676671
yes, and from before women were emancipated so pretty good going

an interesting one is perhaps the lady who designed all the street signs, you'd see her work every day if you went outside.

i just want a cute art gf to discuss art with and go browse michaels with

>>3677015
then go to michaels there's probably one behind the counter right now

>>3676671
gayane khachaturian

>>3676831
lovely works

>>3676968
I've had bouts of 8-10 hours of painting, till my hand cramps up. I still took the 15 min to shower, 5 to floss, another 3 to brush, and a whopping 20 seconds to apply deodorant.

>>3676677
Well put.
/thread

>>3676671
seriously, does every board have an incel thread now? you can be upset, but youll still never get laid and your family will always consider you a failure.

>>3677036
then you're not a monomaniac are you

No one posted Lempicka, how sad.

>>3676831
Okay, this one isn't bad.

>>3676911
honest question

do you often do plein air?

I'm not aware of any female painters, really, but if we broaden "artists" to include /lit/terature, there's some for sure. In my country, France, we had Simone de Beauvoir and George Sand, it's hard to deny Mary Shelley's Frankenstein as a major cornerstone of modern fantasy, and of course JK Rowling is one the best seller authors ever.

>>3676671
Most male artists don't make an impression. I love Sisley and Pissaro, but in light of Monet's work, the world would not have missed them. Yes they were clearly great masters and are in the top 10% of all artists ever.
Artemisia Gentileschi produced work better nearly all male artists ever, yet did she make any big difference?

Sakimichan

>>3676671
Fuyuko Matsui is my artist waifu. She is talented as fuck and looks like JAV star

>>3676957
>feminist "art"

>>3677126
Kek

>>3677135
best poster award
grats you're the best poster on /ic/ and you make sure to bump the best threads

>>3676677
Asshurt roastie detected

Roberta Williams

Apparently this is pretty great

>>3676968
Lol bathing is like max thirty minutes, fuck off.

>>3676671
There has been lots. A painting by Jenny Saville recently sold for 12.4 million. Although a vast majority of female artists came after the second world war.

Especially the conceptual art scene has been fairly dominated by women. And you can think whatever you want about that kind of art, I really don't give a shit. But you need to admit that it has affected the current art world something immense.

>>3676781
Anything with a concious, including a 'breeding machine' with similar brain, will rebel from control. AI sexbots don't have a true concious so they're minimal chances of rebelion an can be controlled without beatings and shaming tactics.

>>3676831
2.5 out of 6 pal, too much reddit.
>Frida Kahlo
>Georgia o'keefe
kek

Artemisia Gentileschi

>>3677303

The fuck are you talking about?

Depends if such artist is both skillful and attractive. Or if the artist's skill is god tier, yet the artist themselves look like a hambeast or genetic failure. You need specifics on the question since these threads always take into consideration of the former by default.

My girl is a dope artist. She is going to the TOP.

>>3677126
>feminist "art"
>male supremacist art
>phallic art
>period blood art
you can call out literally anything to be this or that antagonistic genre. it just depends on what you want to shit on.

>>3676671
Leni Riefenstahl
Catherine Jeffrey Jones
Karla Ortiz

>>3676783
Based taste.

>>3676773
EVOLUTION IS NOT AN ONTOLOGICAL PROCESS

Tove Jansson
Hagio Moto
Mary Blair

>>3677361
nigger, it is literally written in bios of these artists that they are feminists

Face it, women are shit at everything

You can argue that they were oppressed for all of history but that just begs the question... why were they oppressed? HOW were they oppressed? because they are shit

>>3676957
Frida Kahlo PUKE.

>>3676676
Her tan lines make her look like she has disproportionately big man pecs.

>>3676997
Who toasted this roastie?

>>3676783
Not a problem because she makes hot yaoi

>>3677044
Not as often as I’d like but I do like doing it. I feel like a pretentious autist doing it alone so I go with my local urban sketcher group and even then only one or two other people paint. M-maybe if I had a gf I would be secure enough to paint en plein air alone more often?

>>3676671
Dot lady was arguably influential if you buy into the contemporary art meme

>>3677496
NO CAPES!

>>3677496
ah yes. influenced instagrams trending page for a while

Suzanne Valadon.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKySRl2czIs

>>3677723
still no biopic, right?

>>3677423
Thank you. Evolution is not some divine purpose we serve. It is just the result of circumstances. Biological purpose is a fucking meme.

>>3676671
I really try to find something here, because it truly seems like the only good female artists out there paint women. That’s not a problem in itself but it’s terribly frustrating when these paintings have nothing interesting to say and they’re the dominant subject matter.

>>3676671
This doesn’t answer your question but I really enjoy Katrina van Grouw’s work.

>>3677126
I never said they were good artists
but you cant say that they werent extremely influential

Hilma af klint arguably invented geometric abstraction. No one at the time was doing anything close to what she produced.

Elaine De Kooning wasn't too influential but made some great works.

>>3678761

>>3677312
She still wasn't super appreciated in her time though. Also that's not as fun to look at as the one made by Carvaggio

Sachin Teng my dudes

>>3676762
they can't accept the fact that people are born different. everything must be a result of effort, so they feel like they are in control of their situation.

>>3676671
>implying male artists do matter

Artists are worthless scum and we all know it...

>>3676673
>>3676674
>>3676676
>>3676671

non of this is art.

it's photo realistic portrayal of something uninspired.

>>3677353
this is also not art. it's trash.

>>3676758
Are you praising people who are prideful, people who are skilled, or people who appear attractive?

>>3676671
>>3676674
>>3676676
>>3676896
Mediocre tasteless 'art'

>>3676831
top tier

>>3676671
holy shit. is there any more pictures of her alluring body of work?

>>3679124
the world would be SHIT. if artists didn't exist. non of the shit in this thread is art btw.

>>3680253

Well why don't you show us some "real art". Maybe we'll all learn something!

I love Jenny Saville's work

Avery K Singer

Doreen Garner

>>3681950
>>3681956
>>3681964
KEK

>>3676671
Questions like these are posed incorrectly.
1 example of a reason women are already doomed mostly to failure under this is that until recent times women weren't even given the chance to learn or become artists, and even if they did it was likely they had to go through a male proxy to get sold or even get attention to the art. And that was if they managed to self train and get the supplies when society was actively trying to shove them in the closet.

>>3681973
Astounding critique. I suppose you dislike these example because they come from a contemporary period and too entartete kunst. You seem like a person who would more appritiate rococo or neoclassical work such as Élisabeth Vigée Le Brun's.

>>3681964
disgusting like a shit in the hallway

>>3676783
N O I C E

>>3677334
I think this anon >>3677303 meant to reply to this >>3676957

>>3681977
thats such a load of horseshit, society has not been trying to "shove female artists into the closet" for at least 200 years, there is literally no stereotype against female artists, if anything there is a stereotype against men that painting is kind of a girly thing to do


Elisabeth Vigee Le Brun

>>3677118
My nigga

>>3678848
Sachin isn't a girl dude he's a guy.

>>3682270
>200 years
not really, but even if we accept 200 years, that's still a massive amount of time considering we're usually not talking 1900's when we talk about people who make a difference in art.

>painting is girly
in the same way cooking or tailoring is girly. its a house hobby that women are allowed to have, but "professionals" were always men. Women can cook at home, but when it came to a restaurant it was a man's job.

When it came to become a artist as a profession, it was the job of men. Women might even be good at art, but because they weren't men they would rarely get the same exposure or popularity or even opportunities. So of course we can look back at history and say
>hey look women didn't make anything important in history
while ignoring the fact they weren't really given the chance to make history.

of course there's always exceptions too, but those were also not your typical nobodies either, they had a support system pushing them forward that wouldn't of been given to a normal person.

but yeah, plenty of amazing women artists in history, you're just never going to hear of them the same way you'll hear about the men, even though half the historical men were absolute garbage tier even at their time.

>>3682277
>of course there's always exceptions too, but those were also not your typical nobodies either, they had a support system pushing them forward that wouldn't of been given to a normal person.

[citation needed]

>even though half the historical men were absolute garbage tier even at their time.
i mean you didnt hear about them either

>>3682278
Well take elisabeth
>daughter of painter and learned to paint from father
>step father is wealthy
>married a painter and art dealer
>had to trick academia into displaying her art

I don't know why people always act like there wasn't a fuckton of sexism in history. Its pretty well accepted that women were discriminated against pretty much forever. That's not really a debatable point. A few exceptions doesn't mean that for the most part women got screwed.

>>3682281
yeah i guess youre right, theres nothing truly holding current female artists back luckily.

>>3682288
Well there's the part about literally all modern art being complete shit.

>>3682295
i dont understand what that has to do with what i said, please elaborate

>>3676676
>>3676671
>>3676673
>>3676674

>>Look at me paint

Fucking attention whores

>>3676671
Higashimura

Lantian D

Melissa Scott-Miller. Trained with Lucian Freud and others. She's great.

https://heatherleys.wordpress.com/2013/02/15/melissa-scott-miller-exhibition/

I dont know any women that cannot do art.

All women do is art.

They give birth to men? Best creation?

>>3682852

>>3682852
i understand that this is a joke but it still makes me cringe a little

>>3682856
I am just saying, if art is about creativity.
Don't women all create, at least the beautiful ones who get pumped full of sperm and get pregnant.

They manage to take care of shit for 9 months before little clones of themselves comes out from the vagina shaped oddly like a orchid. Not sure why but we all came from that wet hole. '

Well some are test tube babies and some are cut-out because they are too fat or have thick skulls but that is no my point.

Women are creative.

>>3682899
i mean by your logic im creative because i drop a fat shit every morning.

why are you being so weird and gross

>>3676958
lol you cunts fall for even the crappiest bait.
I almost feel bad for you.
almost.

>>3677361
>>male supremacist art
So literally nonexistent art?

>>3682902
You are a 9 month piece of shit. That was brewing and torturing your mother before you get drop out into the toilet bowl.

Imagine how much struggle your mother have to deal with, especially with regret.

>>3682908
lol whats your problem cunt

>>3682909
I have no problem, I'm just referring to you as a piece of shit that requires special attention. Mommy and daddy didn't give you enough love so you come to forum and bash women?

How about you just spread yourself down in a glory hole and be done with your life. At least you get a kick of dopamine from the cum you eat everyday. Best part, nobody will judge you through a glory hole, they don't care.

>>3676671
Most western female art is garbage because it always include some banal exaggerated bullshit, like rape allegories or obsessiveness with spiritualism.

>>3676831
Now thats something .
but your onions fueled cuckold monologue ruined the post .
I just wanted get to know good artists who are women. None of that bully shit you spit on this board.

> keep reading those self-help books that tell you that you're very special boy.

Why are you shitting on self improvement? If anything thats quite appaling. Self improvement is the only way out for many of the neets and r9k dwellers , it should be encouraged
and there are some good books on that

besides the chans wont ever be the abode of normies , so spare yourself from the unnecessary rambling.

>>3676957
all of em are garbage

thats art for simpletons

>>3682852
really now

>>3682852
my nigga

>>3681950
>>3681956
>>3681964
Please stop pretending that any of these are art, it's embarrassing.

>>3682274
She is a woman, saw her at anime expo.

>>3683598
Asians are just very feminine. It’s a guy

kathe kollwitz

>>3676671
>ctrl+f
>no Berthe Morisot

>>3676831
good shit

don't expect any less from here, most of these losers just feel the need to drag everyone down and shift the blame of their own failures from themselves

>>3676671
As a proud poster of /ic/, I would like to thank all of you male and female posters for taking the obvious bait and feeding the troll.
I mean, you could have avoided the thread and post somewhere else, or even better, actually draw something and posting it on any of the draw threads on the catalog, but instead you choose to pick the bait and feed into your victimhood/guilt complex.
Because what /ic/ needs is even MORE political shit-slinging, and not, you know, actual fucking productivity and content.

Good job, thank you so much.

>>3683928

cringed at your self applause.

>>3682545
>>3680190
>Do something they're passionate about and have worked hard to get good at
>lol women are evil

>Remedios Varo
>Leonora Carrington
Also, Leonora was waifu material

>>3676957
>Frida Kahlo
Naww sonn. Her husband cucked her lots of times and he also made most of her paintings.

>>3676831
Nice paintings.Very lively.

Transwomen don't count. Cutting your dick and loudly claiming your a woman does not make you a woman. Fuck off

>>3677161
Wtf I just watched this playthrough

Wow is the lady in OP's pic just like a Jenny Saville knockoff

>>3676681
this

Jenny saville is good tho

>>3677020
that looks like neural network output

>>3677500
kek

>>3682913
and nobody will ever want to fuck you you fat pimply lesbian jew, your roast beef cunt isnt beautiful

>>3685099
And not a single one has a decent background.

>>3683673
yes

Maria Abramivic
Tracey Emin
Rosemarie Trockel
Maya Deren

>>3683933
(S)he's right, tho.

>>3685099

Damn. If that's her in the middle, she's really pretty. I almost feel bad for saying this in this thread because we're talking about pure talent here but my gosh is she beautiful.

>>3684040
Oh wow, look, the TERFs are here.
Nobody needs your garbage.
Go back to r/GenderCritical, bleeding cunt.

>>3685099
>no breasts
>underage looking body
Yep she's slavshit alright, rusland is filled with girls like this left and right. Decent skills overall except I see no compositions.

>>3685963
where do you think you are you disgusting fucking faggot

>>3686378
I'm sure as fuck we're not in r/GenderCritical, you seething broad.
We are in r/ArtworkCritical so get your shit straight.

>>3686391
You are on 4chan

this is not reddit. Please leave.

>>3686414
>this is not reddit.
LOL
<-- Also.

>>3676748
I agree with you but I don’t. But I do

>>3677103
she did create an army of wannabes, unique style w/ six fingers and inspired thousands of threads on this board.

>>3677353
Are you the Nigger with the fat Nigger shebooon girlfriend?
No, she's not going to achieve a damn thing. The only way for her to get recognized is if someone else gives her a platform to present her shitty art. Clip this post and prove me wrong. You won't because Niggers aren't artist

Lauren Faust

>>3676671
Marie Benoist
Kathe Kollwitz
Berthe Morisot
Mary Cassat
idk who else
the art world is patriarchal that's just a fact. Most institutions are boys' clubs. The absence of women is hardly the fault of the women themselves

>>3688523
All societies have been patriarchal for good reason. The number of men who excel at most meaningful skills will tend to outnumber women because of greater male variability. For example, studies in IQ show the standard deviation in visuospatial memory, which is obviously a very important aspect of intelligence in subjects such as mathematics and art, to be higher in males.

>>3676671
>obviously gridded faces
>Instagram meme tier coloring

Eleanor Rigby

>>3680203
Instagram

>>3691756

>>3676671
women aren't even artists of manipulation, because they start with goods that 95 percent of men want. I don't think women can have the same shockingly original ideas men have and the pain and experience to shape them into something extraordinary. However there have been influential female artists after art became shitty high concept bullshit so yes.

>>3691756
>>3691758
Did she do a devolve?

>>3691758
>>3691756
do people like this really get followers

>>3676671
>>3676673
>>3676674
>>3676676
>>3677118
>>3682833
>>3691756
>>3691758

>>3676676
>literally painted adobe illustrator filter
wut

>>3691756
>>3691758
Must be sad knowing that your art is bland and mediocre and the only reason you get any kind of traction is because guys wanna fuck you.
If her instagram was nothing but paintings, no pictures of her. She would top out at 1000 followers like every other bland mediocre fine art artist out there.

>>3683598
wow i've been dying to know this but i though it might be rude to ask. because i once saw a pic from a convention and the face is covered with a sticker emoji thing but it definitely looks like a girl. But I've always though of Sachin as a guy and I was surprised that it was a girl. that's cool

How about this. Name one man who is a famous model, for art or otherwise. Men have been given every opportunity to model for great artworks, but none have made a name for themselves.

Meanwhile the Mona Lisa was a housewife with five kids that transcended the painting she's in and became more important than the work itself.

You're comparing apples and oranges by saying "women aren't good artists", when they have always been, and will always make their mark in the art world by being models for artwork.

With that being said there are some famous men who have been in artwork, the same as there have been some famous women who made artwork, but asking for the roles to be reversed, or thinking one is superior to the other, is just being an incel weirdo that wants to think women are idiots.

Oh wait I forgot, you guys don't draw real women, you just draw your waifus.

>>3693644
for instance here's Victorine Meurent. She modelled for Manet's Olympia. Not only was she one of the most recognized women in one of the most recognized paintings of the time, she was also an artist, and exhibited at the Salon. Maybe you don't know who she is, but she was a historically important person simply from modelling so well for a painting.

If Manet had gotten a male model for that painting and named it Olympus it wouldn't have made any impact whatsoever.

Don't malign the relationship the genders have with each other just because it hasn't been your experience. Men paint, women model. That's the relationship.

>>3693648
I'm sure none of you will understand these posts because you're all closeted homosexuals who jerk off to Sargent and Leyendecker paintings wishing they'd be your famous artist lover, but try to empathize with the straight people for a second and stop making fun of women like a bunch of catty f-words

Anna Dorothea Therbusch

>>3693698

Louise Moillon

>>3693702

Artemisia Gentileschi

>>3686364
>>3685387
im 90% sure thats a fucking stock photo lmao

>>3693708

Lucrina Fetti

Lavinia Fontana

>>3693718

>>3693720

>>3693721

Maria Slavona

Elisabetta Sirani

>>3693739

>>3693741

>>3677118

very cute

>>3691756
Not that bad, perhaps a cool mythological theme, but...
>that arm
Looks like "she hulk seduced by zeus"

>>3693441
You can literally just be a regular plain jane posting pictures of meals and clothes for your "lifestyle brand" and you'll have 10k thirsty faggots following you. Do your makeup right and don't be fat, and you can probably boost that to 20k.

I think for most guys it's just "lol sure I'd like to see another pretty girl in a bra and panties while I take a shit"--but someone, somewhere will be thirsty enough to worship.

>>3691758
>>3693595
"pale grey"
"warm tones"
What an exciting look into the artist's creative process! It's like her soul laid bare on the canvas.

>>3678761
So, is anyone saving the good names?
>>3677303
anon here is right, we should stop posting kahlo, keefe and yayoi and stop wasting time ffs, i won`t because i don`t have time to searx for Schjerfbeck art and the thread will be dead in a month

>>3677040
>posting artists that you learned about from a Google Doodle
lame

>>3691758
>smallwood
true

>>3693595
I will guess IF you had 400,000 followers AND could paint like her, you wouldn't sound so bitter. If you bother to browse her entire gallery you'll see the talent.

>>3693652
> f-words
You need to go back nigger.

>>3693652
>closeted
lol