/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

working on this one meow. haven't figured out how I want to do it yet. Thinking some stacatto strokez might be good for the manic hysteria vibe.

>>3676156
did a red gesso layer, then worked on the other shits with the paint entropy

Hey man if you have fun doing art keep doing what you’re doin, but i don’t know why you post here if you don’t want critiques. You need to tell people what parts your looking to improve on, or what’s bothering you about your own work to get any critiques that you won’t reject because of your artistic license or whatever. Also, since you like doing weird faces, you should do like a series where it’s 20 paintings and have them be 20 frames from a movie where a character makes a weird face. I think your style would work really well for a little animated thing, it would at least be very unique.

>>3676284
> but i don’t know why you post here if you don’t want critiques.
I'm down for critiques.
>You need to tell people what parts your looking to improve on,
yeah I generally try to. If anyone has any experience or suggestions on order of operations for layering paint or types of brushes to use or types of strokes to try or color mixing techniques or whatever I always make an effort to try that out.
> or what’s bothering you about your own work to get any critiques that you won’t reject because of your artistic license or whatever.
Yeah I'll try and do the first part more
> Also, since you like doing weird faces, you should do like a series where it’s 20 paintings and have them be 20 frames from a movie where a character makes a weird face.
fuck yeah. did 3 of Thor so far from Ragnarok. Still planning on doing a series of all the Winona Ryder faces from that emmy acceptance speech maybe.
>I think your style would work really well for a little animated thing
Oh yeah I got an idea for doing a series of like plexiglass (or maybe glass) slides that would be ejected out of a pez-dispenser type contraption, where they are pushed out in order and fall in front of a light source that projects the moving image onto a screen while all the slides make a mess all over the floor.

>>3676297
and I get what you're saying about 20 frames of the same image or whatever and that that doesn't really apply to the Thor paintings but we on the same page.

webm related would probably be what I'd do a frame-by-frame thing for.

>>3676298
I hope you include one still frame of Conan if you do that.

and I want to do some kind of meme connected to the scene in BR2049 where hologram waifu Ana De Armas projects on top of fuckbot Mackenzie Davis.

Ideas have been:
>to do a 3d blue and red thing where I just draw/paint one in blue and one in red on top of each other.
>to do one on canvas and one on transparency paper and you slide the transparency slide on a track over the painted face.
>to do one on canvas and project the other on top of it
>do both on transparency paper, one red one blue and slide them together

>>3676303
of course

>>3676298
see also

>>3676314

>>3676310
YES

>>3676315

>>3676151
please for the love of god seek help for whatever mental problems make you do this and stop posting these

>>3676320
why?

>>3676279
previously on

>>3676308
It looks like you sculpt so why not sculpt the prostibot and then paint on transparent paper for hologram and then put them in a box. Like a peep show. Or maybe!!! You know how they reflect the ghosts at Disneyland? You could do like a ghost image over a painting of the prostitute! Then put THAT in a box. I’ve seen smaller scale versions of the illusion. Just looked it up it’s called peppers ghost.

>>3676328
shheeeit now we cooking with grease.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pepper%27s_ghost

and I wonder if it could just be a lit black wall on the hidden side, and you could just put the waifu painting into the slot, and it'd look like she's sliding into place over fuckrobot portrait

>>3676328
>>3676338
fuck that's a good idea

>>3676417
Well I’m excited, definitely do a test run so you don’t over commit and have to redo everything, but I’m sure you know that.

Based off your diagram it looks like Ana might be too close to the view. She will look either small and close, or too far from fuckbot. You might wanna bring fuck bit a little closer and push the view hole a little back.

>>3676422
yeah building the box would be a hassle. could try and just make it so I can slide any thing in either slot for the same effect.

like if I made a big computer-looking box with big ol fucking slots that accommodate 11x14 or 8x10 canvas panels, I could rig the light and glass and work on getting a proof of concept with particle board and paint/blackfelt or something, then figure out how to do like a track mechanism to slide them in/out like a cd player. Then I could see about making it so that the light turns on when the slide is fully closed only.

shit that could be a good goof is that looking at them in a weird painting vcr is how the paintings are SUPPOSED to be viewed or some uppity bullshit. Seems like it'd be a cool prop for a bunch of porpoises. idk if it'll happen before 2019 desu
>>3676428
yeah I'll have to actually figure out numbers and stuff and then maybe like build the outbox and then be able to dial in where the 2 should slide in on each side before I cut the slot holes. the wikipedia diagrams looked like they were the same distance on both sides and that'd make sense probably. there's probably schematics around

>>3676455
like I could use that box for any sets where it's like the drake yes or no meme. Any one where you want to quickly change between 2 connected memes that aren't designed to spin

>>3676469

>>3676469
Yeah you don’t need plexus glass and you could pick a size for the slides that is a size you use frequently

did the feds crack down on all of your posts and previous thread? it was spooky seeing you completely disappear

>>3676475
yeah most of mine are 11x14. Makes the box pretty dang big if I really want to have it be like at 15 inches tall, and each side at least like like 22-24+ inches long.

>>3676492
got a one day ban for getting 2political in an incel thread and that nuked everything from my ip.

>>3676151
as much as i hate you for shitting up this board i also respect your effort 5/10

"An avatar is a repetitive image or set of images that a user persistently attaches to their posts in an effort to uniquely identify themselves.
...This immediately lowers the level of discourse, and derails the thread to be about the avatar user instead of about the topic of discussion. This form of attention-whoring is not welcome on 4chan. If you absolutely must be uniquely identified, you can make use of the name field."

/ic/ is not your personal blog. 90% of your last thread was just you talking to yourself.

>>3676528
it was broke when I found it

>>3676626
>"An avatar is a repetitive image or set of images that a user persistently attaches to their posts in an effort to uniquely identify themselves.
not really my fault that people recognize my work m80.
>...This immediately lowers the level of discourse, and derails the thread to be about the avatar user instead of about the topic of discussion.
This is a memeschlock thread. The only anon derailing the topic of discussion is (you).
>This form of attention-whoring is not welcome on 4chan.
This is a thread about my work and the concepts of memeschlock and shit. If you take issue with this you take issue with every artist that's willing to put themselves out there and interact with other people on /ic/.

Like what exactly are you concerned about here? What are you gatekeeping really?

>/ic/ is not your personal blog. 90% of your last thread was just you talking to yourself.
I was just posting what I was working on and talking and interacting about it. What's the actual problem uuuu?

Sorry if I was mean to you at some point but "having recognizable work" and "posting reaction images" and "posting your work in the art board" aren't against the rules. Why would you want them to be?

>>3676156
>>3676279
should I do staccatto impressionism strokes or keep blending/

>>3676741
both

>>3676650

You post the SAME IMAGES over and over, often as REACTIONS (as you LITERALLY JUST DID). Go read the damn rules about avataring. You are obviously breaking them.
You derail threads with said images.
Your work isn’t “recognizable” so much as it is ANNOYING. Why don’t you leave for a month or two and actually IMPROVE your skills instead of tracing the same stupid fucking pictures over and over again? Learn about actual colour theory? Or better yet clean your house. You’re literally a rat.

>>3676855
>You post the SAME IMAGES over and over, often as REACTIONS
Yeah they're reaction image memes that are relevant to the conversation. You're in my thread soliciting responses and I respond with paintings. You're on the art board.
>Go read the damn rules about avataring. You are obviously breaking them.
Eh not really. Shits been litigated enough times at this point.
>You derail threads with said images.
Seems more like it's the arguing and shitposting about the subject of the thread that "derails" threads. Plus the board is slow as uppity fuck so like my 4 responses over like 2 days are the only images posted on an image board.
>Your work isn’t “recognizable” so much as it is ANNOYING.
tomato potato.
>Why don’t you leave for a month or two and actually IMPROVE your skills instead of tracing the same stupid fucking pictures over and over again?
I mean these are mostly grids. And I've improved pretty significantly. And I've only done the same image like >>3676314 pretty much only on that one and the Hotdog Harrison paintings, both of which were done on the day 2 years after the first.
>Learn about actual colour theory?
Which part?
>Or better yet clean your house.
smells like bacon and cat litter
>You’re literally a rat.
I'm sorry you're upset Ratface guy. You should focus more on your art education and less on acting like cancer at people you're butthurt about or whatever it is your problem is.

Vendettas are against the rules too and here you are. What have you produced today?

Can you give me a pic of what you do each layer of paint?

I wanna know how you start so simple and then add more detail and depth.

>>3676977
he has some time lapse videos on youtube

>>3676977
https://youtu.be/oB3cW6-lMuY
there's a timelapse of one of the more normal approaches I take where at that point it was normally along the lines of putting down a quick skin layer, then purples, blues, reds, yellows, highlights.

https://youtu.be/Si5DmdXVgeE
is an example of what one month looked like in January 2018. That was the big last hurrah for going nuts with graphite transferring a ton of shit at the beginning and spiraling out from there and jumping from painting to painting whenever I got bored or annoyed or whatever.

Now since I'm doing grids and covering the whole canvas in bullshit it's typically: gesso primer layer, dark skin tones, purples, blues, yellows, highlights. More like what was done with pic related.

But I also goof around with doing different primer colors and building on top of them so the formula changes constantly. And with brushes I do a big wash brush for the gesso, then use progressively smaller brushes as I'm stacking colors on top of each other. But then also I often just use the same brush for the entire process depending on how I'm liking what is happening and whatever.

>>3676328
>>3676417
wow something interesting coming out of a Jimmy thread

>>3676325
just got a pack of new brushes. kind of makes me feel retarded for not doing that months ago.

also just ordered a tube of flesh tone paint. idk if that's cheating or not.

>>3677524
nice. everything feel much smoother after grinding tons on busted up brushes?

>>3677533
yeah like I generally prefer using dirty brushes that have hardened from leaving the paint on them, but it had gotten to a point where all my favorites had been grinded down to little nubs and all I had left that were even functional at all where random shitty bois. Started to become an ordeal to find something to use when I wanted to get wet.

Refreshing to be spoiled for choice and actually have normal brushes again.

how do I paint this?

I love these paintings.

>>3676639
pls finish i want it for my reaction pics

thanks memeschlock for making paintings so fucking ugly that i want to leave ic and work on my own drawings

>>3676908
I think the main complaints are from the size of the images, too high res.

>>3677833
not me tho
>>3677848
probably gonna work on it in a bit
>>3677862
time is entropy my dude
>>3677864
ill check muh cameraphone settings maybe.

>>3676284
>I think your style would work really well for a little animated thing
yeah i keep thinking about all this. I've been mulling over more and more how to capture movement and animation and change in emotion and all that stuff in "traditional" media pieces and stuff a lot over the last year. That's where I'm see things going more and more heading into years 3-7 or whatever.

I've done like 2 so far that are designed to be mounted on a pinwheel. >>3676469 and roondecision. And then like with pic related I'm also looking at doing like a film reel/comic strip type of thing and stuff. Capturing and conveying movement and change and stuff is an unappreciated concept since idiot cameras made everything easy.

Other ideas I have is like a medicine cabinet type of thing with a mirror on a sliding track, so you can slide the mirror to one side and it's one face and you slide it to the other side and it's a different face. Could be like a key shelf you mount near the front door. And it's got mirror for last looks! And there's goofy paintings!

Also planning on doing some vertical canvasses like 10x20 or taller with a spectrum of faces from top to bottom.

>>3678033
and like pully gear type of mechanism so you have like 5 paintings stacked and the mechanism lifts them up front to back and then drops them back and it just does that like a gif but it's a big fucking machine lifting and dropping paintings.

And another mechanism where they're stacked front to back and they're pulled to the right front to back on a spring loaded thing so they all spring back to the original position.

this is the first of the 14x11 cringe series

>>3678201
this is the second

>>3678201
>>3678202
this is the third.

>>3678215
it's also connected to pic related. Which is the "actresses that really want to bang some interviewer dude" meme

https://youtu.be/eoTY_muIwqQ
https://youtu.be/IYnShzP9-NU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fX6rII4HP6Q&t=89s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-AI2KAd15E

dakota cringe is from a video where she apologizes for metooing the interviewer dude
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSsKAy9A9E0&t=29s

it's not that your "colors are muddy," it's that your variation in skintones doesn't ever get warmer than your highlights half the time, even when you seem to have cool lighting. acrylics dry fast - glaze in some ruddier hues on the middles of the faces, lips, and give it a tiny saturation pop where the transition from midtone to core shadows are happening and it won't look so chalky.

>>3677862
he cranks out tons of paintings and has noticeably improved. it looks promising imo if current trends continue.

>>3678226
this is the next step.

Nobody seems to be addressing the idea that the underlying drawings seem to be the root cause of OPs issues with his/her paintings.

My advice would be to stop painting, hone the craft of your drawings, and then come back to painting with a fresh outlook.

damn I'm having dreams about muh movie idea that I started obsessing about when I drew this.
>departed meets burn after reading meets la femme nekita
story is about a German-American gal in France during Nazi occupation that infiltrates the Wehrmacht by infiltrating the women's military administration force. She seduces, subverts, and destroys from the inside while the SS and OSS and MI6 scramble to find out who the mole is and who they're working for.

https://youtu.be/n8oFKS84-yc

>>3678226
>glaze in some ruddier hues on the middles of the faces, lips, and give it a tiny saturation pop where the transition from midtone to core shadows are happening and it won't look so chalky.
I feel you. Some of the ones posted, particularly >>3678217 and >>3678202 are ones that I'm well aware I goofed up on. Tried to experiment with the order of operations on them, started getting frustrated, fucked them up with weird colors to try and make them interesting, and then autistically covered them with way too much whites and highlights.

Good advice though I'll obsess about it for awhile.
>>3678489
>Nobody seems to be addressing the idea that the underlying drawings seem to be the root cause of OPs issues with his/her paintings.
Can you elaborate on this? A few doingusses have said this but when it comes to why and how the underdrawings are the "root cause" of how paint is applied to canvas. What specifically is wrong with the underdrawings and what would you do to improve the process?
>My advice would be to stop painting
lol no
>hone the craft of your drawings,
I mean I went to art magnet school for like 10 years. I was pretty good at drawing 15 years ago. Why should I obsess about honing pencilling when that's not what I'm doing?

Not that I haven't been practicing drawing more tho. It definitely helped me get out of a funk the last week or so to just do some kind of drawing on paper without planning on it eventually having paint on it. Still impulsively catch myself making guidelines to mark changes in color though.

and I can appreciate that muh pencilling is sloppy and chicken scratchy and impulsive and not clean and stuff, but as practice for anatomy and proportions and stuff I think I'm doing ok with getting back into drawing. Gives me a somewhat recognizable and novel aesthetic that is similarly subversive and done "wrong" just like muh paintings huzzah!

1 INTERNET for who call tell me what the pic was from orignally

>>3678530
Penciling doesn't have to be clean, but I will venture out to say that it has to make sense. Your perspective in this image is off, and there's no clear sense of form.

>>3678489
and these 2 are paintings about the whole hand drawing on canvas criticism and concept and the anxiety I've had about drawing since I was like 18. I got into painting as a way to do creative production in spite of having stopped drawing almost entirely from the age of 18 to 28.

Both of these paintings were made together and were done by hand. The one on the right leaves the canvas and the pen lines exposed and was done on top of a bunch of Japanese initials and stuff. The point being that to me, circlejerking about how good you can draw on a painting is more about trying to stress how special you want people to think you are and you're making the painting about yourself than about whatever else it should be about. Whenever I see a painting with the typical "offness" in proportions and anatomy that come from hand drawing on canvas, it just makes me think that the artist is more obsessed with proving how good they are at the fundamentals of art.

And I don't hate on hand-drawing or people that use hand underdrawings if that's their approach. It's just that there are other things in art than being able to sketch.

I've said this a bunch now: Learning to draw is like learning the alphabet. You can't learn how to write if you don't know how to create the letters first. And it's like you can get amazing at writing letters and become an amazing calligrapher, but that skill isn't really going to help you write a novel.

A major issue I have with /ic/ is that you all seemingly ONLY have experience with basic drawing, and there's this circlejerk here that discourages people from ever branching out into different mediums unless they've "honed" or "mastered" basic drawing. It's like so many of you don't know where to go and what to branch out into after you've learned basic drawing, so you just endlessly grind basic drawing and languish as eternal /beg/ dorks.

There is no barrier to entry.

>>3678545
> Your perspective in this image is off, and there's no clear sense of form.
yeah I'm aware. I'm ok with that. Was a good attempt. Learned a bunch. I don't really give a shit about trying to "prove" that I've got super skillz. My entire point is that ANYONE can make interesting paintings if they want to.

Like pic related is a left handed meme. Anyone can do this shit, but thankfully you all just endlessly toil at making sketches and you never bother making anything that anyone wants. Nobody is going to hang up your shitty drawings, no matter how technically well executed you think they are. Drawings are for ideas folders and fridges. But you make a shitty painting and normals suddenly want to throw money at it.

>>3678550

Look, it's completely fine to paint whatever you want, however you want. No-one's going to come looking for you to beat your head in for not studying Loomis heads, or whatever.

That having been said, OP came to this thread, looking to improve his craft, despite any opinions on any kind of circlejerk.

And guess what? He got back feedback, telling him to re-examine the basics.

At some point, you're going to have to ask yourself, "who is your audience? What is your goal?" These questions are important!

If you're an electrician, and you ask a plumber how to improve your craft, they'll give you an honest answer, as best they can.

>>3678562
>And guess what? He got back feedback, telling him to re-examine the basics.
yeah and I appreciate it, but it's just a thing I've thought and talked about a lot and the process of going from graphite transfers to grids to projection and stuff is scheduled into the whole thing. Year one was tracing, year 2 is grids, year 3 will be about getting into projection and hand drawing more, etc. And there's still like 30-40 sprinkled in that were hand drawn to canvas without "cheating." Pic related is a 20x24 example.
>At some point, you're going to have to ask yourself, "who is your audience? What is your goal?" These questions are important!
Yeah exactly! I'm painting memes. A large chunk of muh 300+ paintings are exact proportional "copies" of reaction images and memes that I solicited from anons on /tv/. I don't own the rights to use any of these images, and for many of them I don't "own" the ideas related to them as memes. I'm just painting them. I'm stealing the exact image, transferring it onto a canvas, and fucking it up with paint.

As for who the audience is, it'd be internet-addicted meme consumers and bars and people that need art for their bathrooms and stuff probably. People that can't really tell the difference and don't really give a shit how the image got onto canvas as long as it's funny or interesting or aesthetic to them.

>If you're an electrician, and you ask a plumber how to improve your craft, they'll give you an honest answer, as best they can.
That's fair. I don't mean to come off as confrontational or defensive really it's just a major underlying theme that I've spent years thinking about. And I kind of like to preach about encouraging people to branch out past the fundamentals as a way to better understand the point of them and stuff. It's one thing to think that gridding is cheating or lazy, but the reality is that most of you have no experience with it. Which is basically kneecapping yourselves.

what should I do to fix this doingus?

writing uppity essays in response to critique is how I manically procrastinate. I aint meme nothing by it.

>>3678729
>dat iddqd ray liotta

>>3678734
>iddqd
you think I should leave the eyes in god mode?

>>3678791
been doing white eyes since 2005

>>3678791
maybe not for ray but certainly for others
up to you though because you're the one with the crazy vision and all

>>3676325
now THAT'S what I call a waste of 3 hours.

Now I just need to add purps, reds, yellows, and whites and it won't not be a painting probably.

>>3678580
>It's one thing to think that gridding is cheating or lazy, but the reality is that most of you have no experience with it.

do people here really have an issue with you using grids? van gogh did it...

>>3679067
i have mixed fillings about this

>>3679164
>do people here really have an issue with you using grids?
yeah it's been a thing for like a year now
>van gogh did it...
yeah he cheated his ass off. Even carried a giant window frame grid box thing into the woods and shit.
>>3679308

>>3680486
are the eyes a god mode-ism?

>>3680527
I think I'm going to fill them back in. Mostly filled them in on that one just to figure out what was wrong with the eye shape and proportions and stuff. Lost the form so I just painted all of the eye area. Did that on the first one after I noticed the eye shape had gone fucky after painting on it for all day, and ended up keeping it like that because it fit the tone or whatever.

I think muh rules for having eyes filled in is that if it's black or dark eyes it's a depression meme (sadfleck, sadam sandler) and if it's white or bright it's a mania meme (top cruise, rooney has special powers, MEW zip it). So it may not make scents for gadoh no to have darkened eyes since it's way more of a mania thing.

although I was like super sleep-deprived and kind of delirious when I was painting that shit idk. I kind of like it better with blank eyes and without her looking at camera. Like it goes from feeling like she's mockingly laughing at the viewer to mockingly laughing at FUCKING DEATH.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmozGmGoJuw

probably gonna stick with darkened eyes now tbphywf

>>3676325
sky blue is a neat color

>>3676151
>here's a list of all of the genuine criticisms and shortcomings that i've conveniently framed as humorous in an attempt to discard them as ad hominem attacks!

actually ngmi

>>3680851
eh

>>3680878
>again i've framed these valid criticisms as emotionally driven attacks on my character and posted a quote that supports my original fallacious premise while justifying and validating my dismissive and willfully ignorant attitude!

i mean if you want to be bad it's okay, just dont pretend like youre trying to improve.

>>3676308
>>3676297
>>3676279
>>3676314
>>3676338

unironically, are you selling any of these

>>3680887
I mean if you want to have a conversation.

The point of putting the "valid criticisms" that and the conversation about them that's been happening for years now, in the OP, is to establish that we're all on the same page. It's like a "previously on" type of thing.

The reason I ignored your weird strawman greentext is that you project a bunch of weird shit about yourself into it for no reason.
>here's a list of all of the genuine criticisms and shortcomings that i've conveniently framed as humorous in an attempt to discard them as ad hominem attacks!
I've "conveniently framed" doing things wrong as subversive. The results to me are humorous. It's all humorous.

And I don't really discard them as "ad hominem attacks." It's just that we've all already heard them. Your edgy greentext strawmanning IS kind of an ad hominem attack though. Not sure if you understand that.
>again i've framed these valid criticisms as emotionally driven attacks on my character
non
>and posted a quote that supports my original fallacious premise
Define what you think the premise is. Also describe your understanding of fallacy.
>while justifying and validating my dismissive and willfully ignorant attitude!
How is it ignorant to preemptively establish the constant criticism I get in the OP?

And it isn't dismissive. It's wabi sabi brah.
>i mean if you want to be bad it's okay,
thank you for your permission
>just dont pretend like youre trying to improve.
I don't pretend to do anything. I just attempt to challenge myself and do new things on everything. A lot of it falls apart. I'm ok with that. Lean into it even. It's a constant quest for a novel experience.

Do you even wonder if you're projecting your anxieties?

>>3680910
>I mean if you want to have a conversation.
cringe

>>3680910
oh yeah i forgot you reply to everything
>in
this
>autistic
format

i remember why i hate you now, besides the fact that you makes endless excuses for being bad

>>3680898
nope. Cant sell originals until the race is over. And I keep not getting into printing yet. Probably have the website and store and everything set up in 2019?
>>3680920
so you didn't want to have a conversation. That's why I posted the meme. You choose to be a disingenuous person, you lash out at strangers because you've got your own problems. I don't need your problems.
>>3680922
>i remember why i hate you now,
You hate yourself mostly. You just feel a lot of cognitive dissonance about the lies you believe about yourself and that causes frustration and angst that you externalize at strangers as a way to keep you focused on anything but self-critical thought.
>besides the fact that you makes endless excuses for being bad
I mean you're the bozo anonymously projecting your own endless excuses for why you're lazy. Proof me wrong.

>>3680942
you replied to the wrong person, also "no you hate yourself not me" is such a stupid fucking response, im pretty great. youre a burnout stoner who never grew out of playing lawyer with your loser single mom.
projection projection projection i learned what projection means projection youre projecting!!!1!

Paint this

>>3676325
Make some thanos piecees. that would be le epic win meymey

>>3680948
>you replied to the wrong person
I responded to 2 people and 3 posts.
>also "no you hate yourself not me" is such a stupid fucking response,
It's "stupid" because you're stupid. ALL "hate" is an outcome of your own misguided feelings about yourself. Your edgy externalized feelings of "hate" towards random strangers is just you having a weak and broken brain. It's you being an emotional impotent child. Which was my point how you're clearly projecting when you were talking about "emotionally driven attacks."
>im pretty great.
This is where that cognitive dissonance comes in. You like to believe you're pretty great but you probably can't demonstrate it, or you're afraid to try and prove yourself wrong, so instead you shitpost and talk shit while telling yourself how great you are. Like who you trying to convince when you say this anonymously? The only person who knows who is saying what you're saying is you.
> youre a burnout stoner
you're a lazy square!
>who never grew out of playing lawyer
Is this because I said litigated? Is this Hungarian ratface? Learn the dang language geez.
>with your loser single mom.
My mom knows SIMON BARON COHEN bro.
>projection projection projection
Yeah it really is.
> i learned what projection means projection youre projecting!!!1!
You did? Good! Now when you're doing this next time, think about "am I saying what makes me anxious about myself at others because I think that that'll bother them like it bothers me?"

There's also the benefit of if you pre-emptively project what bothers you about yourself at others, they're less likely to accuse you of those things! It's an ego-defense thing. idk mull it over a little.

>>3680964
oh yeah forgot about that one. It's on the list
>>3680965
yeah I guess I should do a dang purble guy
could probably get a bunch of memebux on marvel subreddits

>>3680942
>nope. Cant sell originals until the race is over

lmao dude you aren't going to build a following without selling your work but okay

>>3680978
this is genuine projection though, creating these grand narratives and presumptions about him just because he doesnt like you

>It's "stupid" because you're stupid. ALL "hate" is an outcome of your own misguided feelings about yourself. Your edgy externalized feelings of "hate" towards random strangers is just you having a weak and broken brain. It's you being an emotional impotent child

like maybe he just doesnt like you bro haha..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oB3cW6-lMuY

LMA fucking O bro are you just tracing this shit?

>>3681062
he grids now

>>3680981
>>3678791
>>3678597
>>3676469


shit

>>3676314
>>3676908
>>3678550
>>3680978

genuinely breddy gud

>>3680999
Yeah I'm trying to get up to sell prints and stuff. But part of muh whole Racing Van Gogh project is that I can't sell originals. And I'm real into self-sabotage for some reason.
>>3681048
>creating these grand narratives and presumptions about him just because he doesnt like you
A: Pretty sure it's one of the same buttblasted kids as always.
B: They didn't say they didn't like. They said hate. I wasn't talking to who they actually are I was talking to what they said. People that feel the need to stress that they hate strangers are likely to fall into pretty specific psychographic profiles and I can just talk shit at that and it's often relatively accurate.

Not to mention that I don't pretend like I don't "project." That's all anyone is doing when they're yelling into the void anonymously. I talk to the clear underlying frustrations that people like Hungarian Ratface guy demonstrate constantly because I can often relate and emphasize with their faggy feelings.
>like maybe he just doesnt like you bro haha..
haha muh feels haha. And remember she said she is full of hate. Not "dislike." People that stalk and talk shit and samefag at people over and over about their faggot feelings about that person are demonstrating obvious personal and psychological problems. Maybe she does "just not like me." Doesn't necessarily make my point wrong about why she has those feelings in the first place though. And I gotta waste time somehow.

>>3681146
i think you might be genuinely autistic, please belive me when i say i dont mean this as an insult, just the way you reply to things and the chugging out these very specific pictures without stopping as well as a seeming inability to see things from other people's perspective

>>3681062
Post your graphite transfer paintings.

>>3681149
maybe? The argument bot IS mostly a bit. Like autistically overanalyzing everything in shitposts is how I counter shitpost shitpost. Like I got all these arbitrary rules that become super important and it's a race about quantity and it's a pretty autistic concept and subject matter and stuff. The 3rd painting that kind of sold me on getting into painting in a big weigh IS called "Confirmed for Autism."

>>3681153
also this is from webm related where she talks about how bad she smells after wearing the suit. am I a prevert?

this is spamming

how much do you spend on fucking canvases

>>3681208
nah uh
>>3681210
Just bought a 12 pack of 12x16 canvas panels and they were like $25. You can get 8x10s for like a dollar a canvas. That's what I started on. Then I got a 11x14s, 12x12s, then 20x24s. 20x24s get expensive. Those are like 12 for $55 or so.

>>3681216
>they live is obscured
messed up bro

>>3681216
god what i would give to get into that room with a can of gasoline

>>3681221
yeah I should have redone the wall before I put the shelf up and redid the desks and shit. Left side used to be the side I couldn't reach and the right side was constantly changing. Now I can't reach any of it.
>>3681228
Time is entropy. Fire is entropy. Fire is time.

>>3681493
why did you hate will smith so much?

>>3681493
You're a gril aren't you
also >table on fire
How did you put it out?

>>3681502
yeah I should of thought more about the optics or whatever. I was just annoyed with how it turned out and felt like trying to improve it with fire.
>>3681507
>You're a gril aren't you
I'll be whatever u want bb
>How did you put it out?
wet towel off camera. Plus when you're burning rubbing alcohol it pretty much just burns the rubbing alcohol and goes out. And that table was made in the USSR, and you know they make good stuff.

>>3677606
>tfw you start a painting with the highlights

>>3677606
>tfw they say you do the same thing all the time so you start a painting with the highlights

working on this guy. I was thinking of doing it like a table setting thing with the 4 concerned fellers sitting around the same table.

But now I'm kind of thinking I should jsut do the Mel and Vince image on it's own on a 16x12.

>>3681635
something like this if it was a 24x20

>>3681635
>>3681638
or like this on a 16x12, either with or without the 2 back bois

>>3681635
>>3681638
>>3681648
think I'll do this on a 24x20. Can always nuke the backboyles if it looks weird

>>3681635
>>3681648
>>3681660
https://youtu.be/uuWQyfGa1yI

ffs just focus on one thing

>>3681957
anyone ever just sleep for like 20 hours?

>>3676151
you should try out washes/glazing. build up your values cuz right now your paintings are very much stuck in a weird desaturated tone, with no real darks or lights. jeff miracola has some painting videos u could learn from

>>3683845
I DO need to focus more on glazing tbphwyf. The whole point of focus for second year was supposed to be about figuring out glazes and primers and all the other "white" additives and processes. And I keep NOT fucking with glazes or stopping before I get to the glazing step.

Have spearmented with mixing glaze into paint but that mostly just ended up looking retarded.

>jeff miracola has some painting videos u could learn from
I'll check it out.

>>3683825
>all that black
a monochrome approach perhaps? it could pair well with those suits

>>3683881
ooh yeah that's what I'm thinking. I haven't made a black-only painting in at least a year.

first b&w. was painted out of frustration after working on Cersei unfinished for like 10 hours and fucking it up. Was also painted during a hurricane.

first of director reaction 8x10s

>>3683905
should really finish that one and this one. so close to not being distractingly undone

forgot about this one

and this one.

Why are your values always so chaotic, you need a better separation between light and shadow. All your paintings look washed out :(

I've asked like once in a past thread, where can I buy one? Whatever people shit on you for doing this, but I love it. Love reaction memes and your paintings. I would love to hang a few on my wall. But I never get a straight answer.

>>3681619
Pls gib willem dafoe painting

>>3684083
he has to finish his race

what's the point of posting your work if everyone hates your guts?
I'm geniunely wondering.

>>3684205
spite is an excellent motivator

>>3683986
>Why are your values always so chaotic
It's a chaotic process generally.
>you need a better separation between light and shadow
yeah
>All your paintings look washed out :(
I mean most of the monochromatic ones are kind of literally washed out. They were all painted when I was real into misusing black paints and watering it down to get lighter values. They're all made with black paint and water. Plus a lot of the ones posted ITT definitely aren't what I'd call "done." A lot of them are primarily still the gesso layer or a first pass layer. Hopefully they'll be less wishy washy later idk.
>>3684083
eventually the store'll most likely be through watchpaintdrytv.com and/or racingvangogh.com. Haven't done shit with the webbe site yet though.
>Love reaction memes and your paintings. I would love to hang a few on my wall.
Let's say first quarter 2019 I'll try and have somethign set up.
>>3684087
he's got an aesthetic face tbphwyf
>>3684165
this also. Can't sell originals until after I get shot in the chest.
>>3684205
I mean it's really just a handful of poindexters that mostly don't like me for political or personal reasons and anonymously talk shit.
>>3684251
this. also I'd rather post to a board full of hostile or dont-give-a-shit reactions than just a circlejerk most likely. Less pressure to want to please people when most of the people I interact with "hate" me. Plus it's easier to solicit arguments as an excuse to write essays about things and themes and ideas that are relevant to the whole endeavor. It's like doing shitty open mics to workshop your routine or whatever idk

Hey Jimmy you should draw an anime girl. I want to see what it'd look like in your style.

>>3681957
>>3683825
feel like I should have started on a different face to find what I wanted to do. May still end up using longer highlight strokes on top idk
>>3684821
sounds like an idea. any suggestions?

>>3685009
Not the same guy but if it's memeschlok then this character comes to mind. I know you try to seek out strange facial expressions so this specific pic might not fit the bill though.

>>3685009
>>3683825
>>3681957
oof

>>3684814
>a handful of poindexters that mostly don't like me for political or personal reasons and anonymously talk shit.
when you first came here, you made a point of shitposting in every single thad until it deraled into a shitstorm with you in the center of attention. You made it clear to everyone that you hated 4chan and that it was a hellhole that deserved to get treated like shit. That is why people don't like you. Also your twisted faces are disgusting.

>>3685009
ahegao pls

>>3685337
>You made it clear to everyone that you hated 4chan
I've never said that.
>and that it was a hellhole
It certainly can be.
>that deserved to get treated like shit.
I said like belligerent (you)s and safespacing consumerist-mentality kids that talk shit anonymously don't deserve to be catered to. It was more specifically directed to various (you)s, not an indictment of eveyone. I never said everyone here "deserves" anything, but there's no need to tolerate edgy assholes projecting their own toxic shit at strangers.
>That is why people don't like you.
I mean if you want to grasp onto some shitpost that you misunderstood or I didn't adequately articulate and use that be butthurt about I can't really do anything about that. That's your life.

Sorry about whichever thread I was mean to you in that rustled your jimmies so much but it wasn't personal. idk who you are.
>Also your twisted faces are disgusting.
sexually?

>>3685271
>>3685354
thinking maybe turning this into an animu

>>3685469
>converting an actress
much better idea

>>3685413
don't worry, I don't take anything you say seriously anymore, nor do I expect you to be even remotely honest about what an asshole you've been to people in here. I just wanted to let anons in this thread hear the other side of the argument.

>>3685473
>>3685469
pretty sure this is muh first attempt at doing an anime thing idk. finna do more probably. that's not unenjoyable.

>>3685473
>>3685469 (You)
pretty sure this is muh first attempt at doing an anime thing idk. finna do more probably. that's not unenjoyable.

>>3685535
>don't worry
im not
>I don't take anything you say seriously anymore
idk who you are. And if you refuse to act in good faith and just ignore or disregard things that I say to you, why should I give a wet buttfuck about treating you with respect or caring about your feelings?
>nor do I expect you to be even remotely honest about what an asshole you've been to people in here.
I've been an asshole a lot. Part of my whole schtick.
>I just wanted to let anons in this thread hear the other side of the argument.
dope. everyone knows about your feelings now. Confirmed for asshole. Anything else I can help you with?

>>3685274
>>3685009
>>3683825
>>3681957
slowly stacking midtones and then highlights on top

tfw starting to see how it can work https://youtu.be/j5oaCPCqN3Y?t=174

>>3685551
lol

>>3685551
kind of better than I expected. still shit tho

>>3686427
>>3686599
ill take it

>>3686932
bruce lee has a pretty good laughing meme face

>>3686941
one of these frames perhaps. too lazy to retrieve a higher quality image though.

>>3686941
>>3686945
I was just thinking about doing something about him. I like that gif too. Saw that one and it's follow up when I was googling a minute ago. Could maybe do like a 20x10 with a progression of him going from serious to hysterical back to serious again similar to >>3678033


Or just one big ol 12x16 portrait. Also thinking of maybe doing a 12x16 full body ws or above the waist ws of him all shredded up. Have only done like 2 torso paintings and they were of grils.

>>3676151
did you do this op or is someone ripping you off

>>3687010
>no purple
>no staccato

>>3687013
but painting memes is kind of your thing tho

>>3687010
bunch of people did it in the same weekend. I stopped working on mine on 9/11. Some reddit dude got like 57k memebux or some wacky amount for his painting of it by posting it on /r/pics. I got like 500 memebux on /r/art and the tesla subreddit though. And I was first. So I got that going for me. Which isnice.

>>3687017
that's cool, it was probably a hivemind happening

>>3687016
twast me

>>3687020
this looks much more detailed than the last potato eater pic I've seen. is there a pretty picture under that mess?

>>3687019
oh yeah because it was live on the joe rogan thing and then it was big financial news because the fucking stock price tanked and that was the specific reason why. Plus it looked fucking cool as heck.

Was an interesting series of events for me while I was working on it too. Was doing a sober september thing and was working on the painting for like 12 hours and then my cat caught and crushed the skull of a mouse right in front of me, some other stuff happened, I got blackout drunk chugging fruity vodka impulsively and woke up having drank a bunch of lsd I had for microdosing. One of my least favorite 9/11s tbphywf.

So like that painting has all this weirdo personal lore stank on it idk. Could write a short story about it or something.

>>3687023
yeah >>3687020 is like a 2 hour drawing I did today on an 8x12 "canvas" on a 8.5x14 piece of paper.

Been trying to do a drawing a day / 5 drawings a week since last week. >>3678525 >>3678530 >>3678520

Been pretty good for getting out of a funk. Although wine floozies pisses me off. Wish I did it bigger. And I normally try not to erase, and then I frigged myself into a corner on falling-girls face, then tried to erase, and not it looks dookie.

and Potato eaters is now become the new thing I'm using to motivate working on other stuff out of avoidance of working on potato eaters. Like in year one it was this painting about Trump's hair that I kept putting off working on, to the point where it was like I was spending all my time painting stuff just so I could NOT paint that.

>>3687033
I normally hate all the shit that you do but that black and white one on the floor is pretty cool.

>>3687033
sorry, didn't mean to bring up the P-word. just wanted you to appreciate your sketches

>>3687101
im sure ill figure out a way to goob it up
>>3687197
>just wanted you to appreciate your sketches
pfft fat chance

>>3685551
MOAR

don't even want to paint now that I broke the drawing seal
>>3687452
chyea probably

>>3687645
>broke the drawing seal
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3ALwKeSEYs

go post in beg and ask for critique this shit doesn't deserve it's own thread

>>3687655
>dumping a shitload of paintings in /beg/
he's doing you a favor to be quite honest

>>3687655
>stop spamming other threads stay in your containment thread
>go post in beg this shit doesn't deserve it's own thread

>>3687659
polish Larry this December or January?

Is there commentary on meme culture in these or something? Like, that's my biggest gripe about post-modern internet kische. It's too meta-meta and post-ironic to find sincerity in any of it. Like, they are technically flawed and the colors are horrendous, and you seem to not think that, which is fine, since that might be a personal choice, but how can I tell it's your choice if the very subject you're trying to capture is caked in so many layers of irony that it's impossible to understand your intent?

What's so god damn infuriating about all of your pieces is that every time I look at them, I just see someone trying to be the Warhol of the Internet age who simultaneously has nothing to say about the age they're living in. Schlock for the sake of schlock is fucking stupid. Even Tommy Wiseau made The Room because he thought it would be a good movie, as incompetently made as it was. If you are here to just post trash for the sake of making further trash, don't ask for critique. You obviously are only asking for critique to validate your existence on this board while sharing your low effort garbage. I would be perfectly fine with your threads existing if you were just honest about why you are here: to fish for polarizing view points that inflate your ego just enough to keep making these wastes of paint instead of something better, but more difficult.

The only way to critique these without me sitting here going on about how much of a shit person you are is to understand your intent, but I can't because you paintings imply you don't have one.

Why do the janies let you have your own thread that never goes down? I'd have guessed its like a containment thread so you don't shit up the rest of the board vut you still do! Despite having your own little wank thread for your trash art you still post it in all the other threads. Pointless rant as theres no getting through to your narcissistic and most likely mentally ill ass.

>>3687711
>Is there commentary on meme culture in these or something?
oh yeah you betcha
>It's too meta-meta and post-ironic to find sincerity in any of it.
all about that post-irony tbphywf. Everything is generally done with entire sincerity, but the rules themselves are purposefully flawed. It's an earnest effort to do things wrong.
>Like, they are technically flawed
wabi sabi brah
>and the colors are horrendous
I like some of them.
>and you seem to not think that, which is fine,
eh I'm pretty aware.
>but how can I tell it's your choice if the very subject you're trying to capture is caked in so many layers of irony that it's impossible to understand your intent?
idk my whole schtick is pretty reliant on all the manic essays and lore-building and stuff.
>I just see someone trying to be the Warhol of the Internet age
I'm racing Van Gogh. And honestly I kind of like Lichtenstein more.
>who simultaneously has nothing to say about the age they're living in.
Shit dog I got a ton to say about that. I think the internet age we're diving into is going to ultimately be seen as a "dark age" as technology ages and changes and people die and everything. Part of the whole bit is that I'm taking internet memes and translating them to traditional media for "historical preservation."

One of the primary reasons I'm "racing" to be a squeakquel to Van Gogh is I see a lot of parallels between his place in time (rise of industrial revolution) and ours (rise of internet revolution). And whereas he "rebelled" against the times by moving to the country to paint ugly paintings of peasants, my parallel is that I paint ugly paintings of memes and celebrities. They're the peasants maaan!

>>3687711
>Schlock for the sake of schlock is fucking stupid.
It's mostly for the sake of absurdism and entropy and life and death and existential panic and stuff. Part of the goof is about reeling people in with silly meme paintings and then using that attention to rant about humanity is driving off a cliff and everything is irreparably fucked.
>Even Tommy Wiseau made The Room because he thought it would be a good movie
I'm still earnestly striving to do good work. And I still think this project is sound and "good"
>If you are here to just post trash for the sake of making further trash, don't ask for critique.
if you think that's what I'm doing I'm not really interested in your critique.
>You obviously are only asking for critique to validate your existence on this board
Eh I kind of thrive off of anxiety and am driven by conflict seeking and avoidance and stuff.
>while sharing your low effort garbage.
I put in a pretty significant amount of effort. I pretty much spend all of my waking hours on this shit.
> would be perfectly fine with your threads existing if you were just honest about why you are here
I am though.
> to fish for polarizing view points that inflate your ego just enough
Eh it's much more of a masochism thing. It's the opposite of an ego boost. I get to a point where I fucking hate myself and then get lost in work to escape the badfeels.
>to keep making these wastes of paint instead of something better, but more difficult.
I've been working on increasingly more difficult and time-consuming approaches pretty much the entire time.
>The only way to critique these without me sitting here going on about how much of a shit person you are is to understand your intent
the fact that you reflexively hop to ad hominem hatred from a place of ignorance seems weird. I paint goofy memes for free as a full time occupation. Why does that make me a shit person?

How do you deal with all the mad ass fagets hating on you? What goes on through your head? What can you advise to a sensitive brainlet like me?

Just wondering because I see you give insightful stuff before

>>3687711
>but I can't because you paintings imply you don't have one.
I mean they do. >>3687017 and >>3678550 are examples of more meaningful ones . Like of the 300+ paintings at least 200 of them are connected to broader concepts and ideas that are generally reflected in the process they were done.
>>3687733
>Why do the janies let you have your own thread that never goes down?
why wouldn't they? This is an art board and this is an pretty consistently active thread.
>I'd have guessed its like a containment thread so you don't shit up the rest of the board vut you still do!
oh no people contribute ideas and arguments AND post their work!?
>Despite having your own little wank thread for your trash art you still post it in all the other threads.
gasp
>Pointless rant as theres no getting through to your narcissistic and most likely mentally ill ass.
dope
>>3687661
looks like it was painted on Feb 25, so I might work on then for 2 year.

>>3687752
dude you're insane.

you live and breath /ic

i've stopped reading your replies.

>>3687751
>How do you deal with all the mad ass fagets hating on you?
Use it as opportunity to argue muh ideas and talk about muh shit. It's kind of convenient to have anonymous shitposters that are willing to act as contrarians and provide conflict to bounce off of.
>What goes on through your head?
idk normally anxiety that I'm wasting time shitposting instead of doing something productive.
>What can you advise to a sensitive brainlet like me?
idk they don't really matter. Who cares if some anonymous strangers are mean to you? Being hated is probably better than being ignored.
>Just wondering because I see you give insightful stuff before
Like I've been "addicted" to talking and arguing and doing this kind of shitposting rants for most of my life. Spend a lot of time writing and thinking and reading about stuff that bothers me and I seek out opportunities to rant about stuff. For every "insightful" thing I manage to get out there's a whole ocean of rambling embarrassing bullshit.

idk I think I just hate and harm myself way more than some random shitposting anons ever could.

>>3687755
>i've stopped reading your replies.
why should I care about your opinion if you choose to be lazy and disingenuous?

wait so this guy traces a mag cutout and just paints over the lines he traced? wow painting is for frauds

>>3687767
>wait so this guy traces a mag cutout
I mean they were images edited in photoshop to increase saturation and stuff, printed out, and transferred to canvas using graphite transfer. Year one was "tracing." Year two has been grids. Going forward it'll be looking at using projection as well as increasingly more hand drawn to canvas memes.

You can see a whole bunch of tracing during the reflektor segment starting at like 29:40 or so in the year one timelapse video. https://youtu.be/45GkUiuRmjM?t=1781

It was definitely a good way to get a bunch of canvasses prepped in a short amount of time, so that I could jump around between like a dozen paintings when I'd get a good color. Most everything after ~150 hasn't been graphite transferred.

>>3687787
bro nothing you made was original in the first place, but to add tracing on top of it? damn, it just doesn't sit well with me that's all

>>3687757
i'll try to be less of a pussy online next time.
thanks jim jim

>>3687791
>bro nothing you made was original in the first place
no shit they're memes and reaction images solicited from anons on /tv/. Essentially all of them are copyrighted images that I don't own the rights to, transferred with near-exact proportions onto canvas, then fucked up with paint. Pic related may be the only one that I own the original image rights to.
>but to add tracing on top of it?
yeah exactly. The goal has generally been to produce as-close-as-possible proportionally accurate images. And >>3678550 is all about the ideas related to the theory and the underlying anxiety I had about getting back into drawing after essentially stopping entirely from age 18-28
>damn, it just doesn't sit well with me that's all
that's part of the goof!
and yeah it really got some gears grinding then too. Although the amount of shit I get for using grids now isn't really that much less than the amount of shit I got when I was tracing. People that want to shitpost will find a way.

not to mention that professional painters doing commissions on a time crunch often do graphite transfers and projections and stuff. And all le masters used grids, particularly muh boy Vinnie. Like part of developing as an artist is learning the fundamentals and understanding the basic theory, and then figuring out how to cheat and be as productive and efficient and stuff. It's one thing to think that graphite transferring to canvas or doing grids is "cheating," but it's another thing to refuse to ever do those methods at all. You're limiting your own skill base because you're still obsessed with circlejerking about proving to yourself that you can draw good.

>>3687795
just people sitting
alone in a room staring
in the black mirror
https://youtu.be/o3G6L8doFcw

>>3687791
why doesn't it sit well with you? it's a perfectly valid technique that painters have been using to practice for centuries at this point. it's not like the guy is being disingenuous about it, he's completely upfront that he traces/uses grids.

>>3687808
you are one of those people that do something by accident and say "I meant to do that!".
>Essentially all of them are copyrighted images that I don't own the rights to, transferred with near-exact proportions onto canvas, then fucked up with paint
yes, that is what happens when an amature copies a photo. They get the proportions right because they trace or use grids and then they fuck it up with paint because they suck.
>yeah exactly. The goal has generally been to produce as-close-as-possible proportionally accurate images
right here, too. It's like you claim to use grids to get near perfect proportions, but in reality you get near perfect proportions BECAUSE your using grids. "I meant to do that"
>"this really don't sit well with me at all" that's part of the goof!
again, "I meant to do that", no you didn't. People devalue your art because you use tracing and grids, you're not using tracing and grids to make people devale your art.
>all le masters used grids
this and the whole last paragraph is really redundant, because there is only one reason that you are using tracing and grids, and that is because you can't get by without them. Doesn't matter how many reasons you got going for grids, YOU are using them because you have to.

keep making stuff, that's all good, but please stop pulling the "that's the schtick" -card, it just shows you have no overall artistic vision or plan. Accidental happenings is not art.

>>3687894

>>3687814
>>3687894
>you are one of those people that do something by accident and say "I meant to do that!".
oh yeah! I'll stop working on a painting when I realize I goofed something up and then hang it for variable amounts of time and just stare at the mistakes and think about how to unfuck them and/or embrace them.
>yes, that is what happens when an amature copies a photo. They get the proportions right because they trace or use grids and then they fuck it up with paint because they suck.
yeah exactly. It's already an entirely new medium. If the goal is learning how to paint, the means by which the underdrawing is transferred to canvas is secondary.
>It's like you claim to use grids to get near perfect proportions, but in reality you get near perfect proportions BECAUSE your using grids. "I meant to do that"
I can draw portraits to near perfect proportions as it is. Been good at that since I was 15. You use grids to ensure you have everything blocked exactly as you want it in the frame.
>again, "I meant to do that", no you didn't.
I've been having these exact conversations since May of 2016. The idea of doing canvas transfers for the first year/until the printer ran out of ink, had been thought up in like September 2016.
> People devalue your art because you use tracing and grids
essentially all painters use grids. And normies don't give a shit. The people that really get triggered by this shit are /beg/ dorks. Not to mention that the paintings were also done with the cheapest brushes on the cheapest canvasses with the cheapest paint too. Them being shitty cheap meme painting jokes with no value that I then have to sell through a series of weird infomercials has been the idea, and then the bit for years now. I'm just bojangling on the whole video series part.
>this and the whole last paragraph is really redundant,
this thread is redundant. This conversation is redundant. It's almost been 3 years now. Time is a flat circle.

>>3687894
>Doesn't matter how many reasons you got going for grids,
Rules are rules brah. Like this is why I started the wikia so I could just link you to the same fucking npc dialogue tree that happens constantly.
>YOU are using them because you have to.
>>3687645
>>3686952
>>3684814
>>3678580
>>3678550
>>3676455
>>3678793
>pic related
hand drawn without "cheating"
>keep making stuff, that's all good, but please stop pulling the "that's the schtick" -card
it is the schtick.

The whole thing is heavily influenced by the song and lyrics of Lateralus from Tool tbphwyf.
Black
Then
WHite are
All I see
In my infancy
Red then yellow then came to be

or whatever. Whole song is about spiraling out and a bunch of other relevant things

>>3687748
>>3687750
>>3687752

>>3687711 here

Just thought I'd say that I don't have time to respond to your wall of text, but I respect you for defending your work.

>>3687814
https://youtu.be/F1qKv-kaYEk

>>3687957
what it looked like this morning

>>3687957
skipped a step and tried out a new yellow. now I'm gonna have to go back with reds and some blues again probably

>>3687957
>>3687960
>tfw watched Seinfeld somewhat recently and saw that frame

>>3681619
continuing with the scientist meme on this on I did yellows and pinks on top of the highlights, and then idk gotta do blues and purps and whatever

stop wasting server space with your 20 fucking hundred reuploads of your shit painting

>>3687947
As usual, your comebacks contain nothing of value. In addition to using the "I meant to do that" defense, you are also always extremely vague and incoherrent to mask an almost complete lack of an actual message.
>I've been having these exact conversations since May of 2016
I wonder why
>The whole thing is heavily influenced by the song and lyrics of Lateralus from Tool tbphwyf.
stereotypical druggie "artist" "yo, this song spoke to me last night while I was on a bunch of acid and my life is an art project that is too complex to describe from now on but it's basically all a schtick!"
you have seriously 0 artistic vision and no overall coherent idea. your inspiration comes exclusively from regular drug binges and it means literally nothing when the drugs wear off. I'm not buying your pseudo-artistic jibberish.

>>3688105
>he actually cares about the website

>>3688139
>As usual, your comebacks contain nothing of value
and you shit gold
>in addition to using the "I meant to do that" defense
it is what it is. If that bothers you, you don't need to be here.
> you are also always extremely vague and incoherrent to mask an almost complete lack of an actual message.
k
>I wonder why
because I've doing this for years m8. are you thick?
>stereotypical druggie "artist"
ngmi
>"yo, this song spoke to me last night while I was on a bunch of acid and my life is an art project that is too complex to describe from now on but it's basically all a schtick!"
I don't really say "yo."
>you have seriously 0 artistic vision
Projecting?
>your inspiration comes exclusively from regular drug binges
eh not really. End of act one had a bunch. I do thrive when sleep deprived but that doesn't really require drugs. I just don't leave the work station.
>and it means literally nothing when the drugs wear off.
time will never not be entropy. Existence will never not be absurd.
>I'm not buying your pseudo-artistic jibberish.
Well I'm not selling it to you. Uppity do-nothing consumer cunt. Life doesn't stop and start at your convenience. I don't care about your approval. I don't know anything about you other than you're an lonely /beg/ contrarian that chooses to disingenuously engage with strangers to talk shit while actively refusing to emphasize or interact in good faith. You repeat the same thing over and over and just negate 2 years of things that happened before you graced us with your holy presence.

You're not going to make anything. You'll never be missed.

what'd you produce today kiddo?

>>3688139
>As usual, your comebacks contain nothing of value
and you shit gold
>in addition to using the "I meant to do that" defense
it is what it is. If that bothers you, you don't need to be here.
> you are also always extremely vague and incoherrent to mask an almost complete lack of an actual message.
k
>I wonder why
because I've doing this for years m8. are you thick?
>stereotypical druggie "artist"
ngmi
>"yo, this song spoke to me last night while I was on a bunch of acid and my life is an art project that is too complex to describe from now on but it's basically all a schtick!"
I don't really say "yo."
>you have seriously 0 artistic vision
Projecting?
>your inspiration comes exclusively from regular drug binges
eh not really. End of act one had a bunch. I do thrive when sleep deprived but that doesn't really require drugs. I just don't leave the work station.
>and it means literally nothing when the drugs wear off.
time will never not be entropy. Existence will never not be absurd.
>I'm not buying your pseudo-artistic jibberish.
Well I'm not selling it to you. Uppity do-nothing consumer cunt. Life doesn't stop and start at your convenience. I don't care about your approval. I don't know anything about you other than you're an lonely /beg/ contrarian that chooses to disingenuously engage with strangers to talk shit while actively refusing to emphasize or interact in rationally. You repeat the same thing over and over and just negate my good faith effort to explain 2.6 years of things that happened before you graced us with your holy presence.

what'd you produce today kiddo?

>>3687955
ear looks a wee bit small but that looks proper decent

>>3688246
>and you shit gold
I try to say something when I talk
>it is what it is. If that bothers you, you don't need to be here.
I kind of enjoy this
>because I've doing this for years m8. are you thick?
??
>ngmi
drug artists never make anything
>I don't really say "yo."
who cares
>projecting?
meme comeback 2017
>End of act one I had a bunch
there you go, you refer to a period of your life as "act 1" in your "art project" lol THERE IS NO SCHTICK ffs
>time will never not be entropy. Existence will never not be absurd
like this is the vague drug induced inspiration you are basing your "artistry" on... It is literally nothing. everyone knows reality is absurd, it doesn't mean your life and everything you do is suddenly a valid art project dumbass
>my good faith effort to explain 2.6 years of things that happened before
If you have to explain what has happened the last 2.6 years of you doing drugs alone in your appartment in order to explain what your art project is about, I'm pretty sure you have nothing tangible to offer.

>>3688309
>I try to say something when I talk
you fail
>I kind of enjoy this
yeah. lonely contrarian.
>??
I've been doing this project with these rules for over 2 years. Is english not your first language?
>drug artists never make anything
other than basically all artists. Post your sober work. Post anything you've done actually.
>who cares
If you want to create strawman versions of the person you're talking to you should be accurate. You're already being a disingenuous faggot when you have to construct made up versions of the person you're disrespecting. You might as well be an accurate disingenuous faggot.
>meme comeback 2017
k
>there you go, you refer to a period of your life as "act 1" in your "art project" lol THERE IS NO SCHTICK ffs
there is. You acting like an uncreative emotional child has no relevance in this.
>like this is the vague drug induced inspiration you are basing your "artistry" on...
these are sober realities of existence. You being an uneducated virgin isn't my problem.
>It is literally nothing.
Our understanding of time is based around our planet being pulled towards the sun in an entropic system. Time is just relative location in space. Honestly how young are you?
>everyone knows reality is absurd
I build my life around this. I don't care if you think "everyone knows" this. It's what I'm guided by. One must imagine Sisyphus happy.
>it doesn't mean your life and everything you do is suddenly a valid art project
No all the artistic production and progress over the span of the race does that. The underlying themes and guiding principles are just the motivating factors.
>dumbass
you're incapable of demonstrating any depth of knowledge of anything. You're stupid and close-minded and you justify your ignorance to yourself by acting like a teetotaling sniveling kid that's escared of drugs.
>If you have to explain what has happened the last 2.6 years of you doing drugs
Made over 300 paintings. What have you accomplished?

>>3688309
>I'm pretty sure you have nothing tangible to offer.
The irony is that you're an impotent consumerist contrarian child. You offer no value other that you inspire me by allowing me to empathize with you and your personality disorder. You're a useless shitposter that is only capable of negation and fallacy and pissy bitching. You're a zero-sum coward that's not interesting enough to make your memes so you fling your own shit at strangers to make yourself feel better.

Be less boring. Or don't. I don't care. It's your boring life.

>>3688330
>I've been doing this project with these rules for over 2 years. Is english not your first language?
you are implying that warrants 2 years of accusations of not having real skills
>Post your sober work
I don't even drink. I used to drink and smoke weed, maybe that is what triggers me about you. I remember how worthless that kind of inspiration is and how it occupies the place in your brain where sincere inspiration is supposed to happen.
>strawman versions of the person you're talking to you should be accurate
are you that much of a brainlet?
>One must imagine Sisyphus happy.
do you seriously think that encrypting your "schtick" into a statement like that is supposed to make things better? Not only polishing turds but fucking encrypting them too.
>the span of the race does that
oh yeah, you are trying to make more paintings than van gogh in less time... and that is more or less the only solid idea in this whole thing. a little on the thin side perhaps? IT'S NOTHING
>Made over 300 paintings. What have you accomplished?
not that it has anything to do with you not being an artist, but I have also done a lot the last 2.6 years that I am proud of.

>>3688377
>you are implying that warrants 2 years of accusations of not having real skills
Who cares about "accusations of not having real skills?" Doesn't even mean anything really. You're talking about the means by the underdrawing is added to canvas. Whether you do a grid or a graphite transfer or a hand draw to canvas, you're still starting the painting with the same image on the canvas.

Like it's annoying talking to you because you're clearly an inexperienced kid with no meaningful frame of reference.

>I don't even drink.
Yeah no shit. Look at how much of a self-important faggot you are about it too. I don't care about your life choices brah. And you're an incredibly rude cunt about it for no reason. I don't need some kid acting like a faggot at me because I've experimented with drugs and artistic production. That's not an argument. You're just a piece of shit.
>I used to drink and smoke weed, maybe that is what triggers me about you
NO SHIT. You're a self-righteous asshole that externalizes your angsty cognitive dissonance about yourself at me.
>I remember how worthless that kind of inspiration is
you have NOTHING to show for yourself. That's why you care about my interest in seeking out novel experiences. You're boring.
>do you seriously think that encrypting your "schtick" into a statement like that is supposed to make things better?
It's a camus reference. Myth of Sisyphus.
> Not only polishing turds but fucking encrypting them too.
It's like the foundation of absurdism. pretty well known.
>and that is more or less the only solid idea in this whole thing.
It is the fucking thing retard.
>IT'S NOTHING
you seem pretty upset over NOTHING m80
>not that it has anything to do with you not being an artist
I'm a producer.
>but I have also done a lot the last 2.6 years that I am proud of.
That reminds me I need to do a Tommy Lee Jones meme for "I DONT CARE."

Who you trying to convince with this? You or me? I don't know you.

>>3688246
never mind the bollocks

im the scratchman
bee bop bop bad op boop
https://youtu.be/Hy8kmNEo1i8

>>3688446
>how much of a self-important faggot you are about it too
I am proud of it, yes
>You're a self-righteous asshole that externalizes your angsty cognitive dissonance about yourself at me
projecting a projection
>you have NOTHING to show for yourself
I know I have, you don't
>You're boring
I am seriously never bored
>I don't know you
yes, you know nothing about me. I know a lot about you. I can mop the floor with your brain anytime I wish. But I'm kind of done here for now. Don't take anything I say too seriously, remember it's all just a part of the grand schtick.

>>3688463
>I am proud of it, yes
not an excuse to needlessly antagonize and insult strangers that smoke pot or drink as a cheapshot attempt to negate and dismiss everything they do.

The secret is that addiction isn't a disease. It's an outcome of disorder. "Sobriety" just gives you something external to work against. Doesn't make you better.
>projecting a projection
No you were very actively doing that with your repeated "druggie" shit flinging cancer. The things people choose when they want to hurt someone else's feelings are generally things that hurt their feelings. You hate the idea of being a "druggy" so that's the cheapshot you jump at.
>I know I have, you don't
you're posting anonymously with no pic related. You're in my thread yelling that I'm nothing and attacking me about your problems with drugs and swearing that you're really proud of yourself. Seems fishy.
>I am seriously never bored
Yeah. Making you BORING.
>yes, you know nothing about me.
I mean I know that you're boring, bad at drugs, probably have a personality disorder, and you probably have a lot of weird anxiety about your own art meme aspirations.
>I know a lot about you.
https://youtu.be/JyaDTiXH3R4
>I can mop the floor with your brain anytime I wish
weird flex
>But I'm kind of done here for now.
you were done a long time ago
>Don't take anything I say too seriously
You're an anonymous text generator.
>remember it's all just a part of the grand schtick.
yeah your schtick is to anonymously act like an asshole about your own nonsense at strangers. Bit of a shit schtick.

>>3688483
>Doesn't make you better
it absolutely does.
>You hate the idea of being a "druggy" so that's the cheapshot you jump at
I know exactly why I hate druggies, but it doesn't invalidate my point one bit.
>You're in my thread yelling that I'm nothing and attacking me about your problems with drugs and swearing that you're really proud of yourself. Seems fishy.
what's fishy? seems fair enough to me. My point is still valid.
>Yeah. Making you BORING.
How am I responsible for your boredom? Do some drugs if you're bored.
>you were done a long time ago
nah, I was done about that time
>You're an anonymous text generator.
here we go with the dehumanizing again. You are talking to real people in here, bud.
>yeah your schtick is to anonymously act like an asshole about your own nonsense at strangers. Bit of a shit schtick.
I said the grand schtick. It's the schtick that connects all the smaller schticks. Even your tiny schtick is connected.

>>3688503
>it absolutely does.
Doesn't fix the underlying disorder that made you bad at drugs in the first place. You're still a malignant asshole. But now you get to tell yourself you're better! You can be a belligerent faggot at people that do adult activities huzzah! Eternal adolescence!
>I know exactly why I hate druggies
Yeah you have a lot of cognitive dissonance about yourself and your life and stuff and you externalize it at strangers that you tell yourself you're better than.
>but it doesn't invalidate my point one bit.
Absolutely does. You have a very narcissistic worldview. You're not special because you're boring.
>How am I responsible for your boredom?
You're responsible for your life you mimsy fuck. If you're "never bored" that means you can sit there and stare at a black mirror all day and do nothing and feel ok about it. That makes you BORING.
>Do some drugs if you're bored.
yeah that's what they're there for
>nah, I was done about that time
lol
>here we go with the dehumanizing again.
yeah you pretty much follow the standard dialogue tree.
>You are talking to real people in here, bud.
You come in here and start actively ad hominem insulting and antagonizing me personally and then expect to be treated like anything other than the anonymous text generator you choose to be? You get what you give.
>I said the grand schtick.
yeah and your grand schtick is to obsess about how you think you're "better" than people because you have the same lifestyle that you had when you were 8.
>It's the schtick that connects all the smaller schticks.
yeah and the smaller schticks are that you suck at art and you're uncreative and uninspired and everything you do is boring
>Even your tiny schtick is connected.
yeah when you see someone like me grinding work it maybe makes you feel bad about yourself and your life choices and you take it out on me. Like what 8 year olds do.
https://youtu.be/Sj_9CiNkkn4

>>3688525
I can't find anything interesting in this post to respond to. But, as a supposed absurdist, I find it hilarious how serious you are taking this, I mean are you honestly offended? cause you shouldn't be. But seriously Jimmy, lay off the drugs and face reality. It's not scary, it's not boring and if you are sincerely inspired you get to keep the inspiration I promise. you are stronger than you think. But go cold turkey on everything or you'll gradually go back to the shit you're in now. good luck buddy!

>>3688538
>I can't find anything interesting in this post to respond to.
because ya boring
>But, as a supposed absurdist, I find it hilarious how serious you are taking this
I'm not.
>I mean are you honestly offended?
do u want me to be bb?
>But seriously Jimmy, lay off the drugs
eh nope. pot helps me focus and booze turns the skis downhill for painting. Just because you have personal problems doesn't mean everyone needs to like like a internet-addicted quaker like you.
>and face reality.
How many hours per day are you staring at a monitor? You've been here ALL day arguing about why you want to think you're better than me. Have you accomplished anything today other than all caps screaming at strangers about how they're NOTHING?
>It's not scary, it's not boring and if you are sincerely inspired you get to keep the inspiration I promise.
I don't think sobriety is that scary. It's just a big clash with my ability to be productive. Been medicated for ADHD since I was in 3rd grade. I'll just keep doing sobertember until the race is done and then if I survive I'll have plenty of time to do a sober meme.
>and if you are sincerely inspired you get to keep the inspiration I promise.
I'm "sincerely inspired" regardless of whether or not I've smoked pot or had a few drinks. Most of my productive work day is spent sober. All the pre-production and planning is shit isn't done fucked up. How much of a virgin are you?
>But go cold turkey on everything or you'll gradually go back to the shit you're in now.
you should look into microdosing LSD.
>good luck buddy!
you should go cold turkey on consuming digital media. It'll help you get a grasp on the reality of your circumstances and it'll have the added bonus of you not being in this thread anymore.

>>3688562
really going to take a long hard look at my sober life after this post thanks lol.

>>3688593
you should probably just take a look at your life regardless of what you qualify as an addiction.

You've spent an entire tuesday on this shit. Go to therapy. Get a job. You probably spend every day just staring at digital media. like if you spent the same amount of time per day doing drugs, as you spend shitposting on the intranettes. Would you be a junkie?

Just imagine if you were smoking and drinking for as much time as you spend doing nothing in front of screen.

>>3688613
thanks for bringing that up cause lately I have actually been very happy with my life. I have steady income surplus, good hobbies (with progression), near total freedom, great health. I only need a wife, but right now, finding a wife is like one of my favorite things about my life. But you are right in that if I spent as much time shooting krokodil as I spend online, I'd be dead. I would also be dead if I spent that time eating food or drinking water or running or partying, I think I missed your point but I guess you're right about that. what if you spent the time you spend copying memes spended on drawing freehand from imagination? would you be good? probably not. but that's not why you don't do it. we all have a lot of time to spend and doing drugs is certainly not something we should do a lot of. that time is better spent online if you ask me. I bet you spend as much time online as me, but you are on drugs while doing it. It reminds me of the 420 legalize faggots that claim alcohol is twice as bad as weed, with a joint in one hand and a beer in the other.

>>3688633
again I legitimately don't care about you. You're talking to yourself.

i'm sure you're a beautiful and unique snowflake, but I'll never really be able to notice or give a shit.

tldr. you're not going to make it.

>>3688642
>you're a beautiful and unique snowflake
thanks

I overall really like these, but here's what you need to improve on:
Value control. A lot of these emphasize the secondary forms of the face, rather than the main forms. This is why they looks so splotchy. I get that you're not working from great references, so you'll have to infer and add to the paintings.
Anatomy. The faces often have misplaced features. Again, this is usually because of the source material. But the knowledge of the artist is just as important as what you're painting from. Take the Patrick Bateman painting. His nose is totally out of line with the rest of his face, and his philtrum is veering wildly to the side. If you want to improve as an artist, you'll have to learn the forms of the face and let them inform your paintings.
Midtones. Many of your paintings really only have one dark shade. You could try mixing more halftones. It seems to me that your style would be more suited towards a broken color/broken value type of deal.
Good luck, you have a lot of potential, and a lot of these are very good already.

>>3689294

>>3688562
I'll use this painting to elaborate on the value control thing. The light in this painting is coming from the top of Draper's head, right? So you have the shadows along his jawline and bottoms of his features. But what you are lacking is that the light that hits the top of his head should be lighter in value than the light that hits the bottom. Instead the light sections of his face are the same throughout.

>>3687711
this is pretty much spot on.

>>3688455
that's not terrible

bump lel

>>3691396
stop fucking bumping your own threads jimmy you raging retard this is a slow board you burnt out stoner trash

>>3691403
you seem upset. Also quit pretending you're not Jimmy.

found a bunch of shit from 2005/2006 at my mom's house. This was a hand-drawn chalk pastel I had to do for art class. Was supposed to bring in a picture of a family member and forgot, so I borrowed a picture from the girl sitting across from me and told the art teacher it was little brother. She was very liberal and open-minded or whatever so she didn't take issue with the difference in skin tones. Put him in a desert as a goof.

>>3689294
good tips. Don't really have anything to shitpost about.

And yeah the Bateman nose is really like one bad stroke goofing it up and one or 2 good strokes missing, and it'd be pretty much there.
>Midtones. Many of your paintings really only have one dark shade. You could try mixing more halftones.
Yeah I kind of start always get started with the darks and then stack mid tones and highlights on top. Problem is I generally get distracted and lazy after doing the darks and then when I get back to working on the painting at some point weeks in the future I often am just dumping colors I had from some other painting on it and it all spirals into nonsense.
>It seems to me that your style would be more suited towards a broken color/broken value type of deal.
Can you elaborate on this?
>>3689301
yeah the draper one is definitely one where I was stacking and blending reds and highlights on top so long that the darks got all tinted out and whatever. Should have gone back for the the chin shadows after I got the rest of it sorted.

>>3691403
I've been out of town.
>you burnt out stoner trash
that's rude.

and apparently I did have experience with acrylic painting before 2016. Completely forgot I had made this. Hate that it's MORE textured in the distance than in the foreground.

used to do a lot of watercolors. The big shitty black shadow on the left building was done by my art teacher to demonstrate how to do shadows and then she fucked up doing it and kept trying to fix it and I think that's kind of funny.

pic related and >>3691911 are linoleum prints where you put down a color, then carve out the things you want to stay that color, and then put down the next color, and then carve out the things you to be that color, etc.

>>3678793
also found one of the prints from muh dark side of the moon project that had been half colored in. Guess it's an intaglio? Was done by scratching into a plastic-y plate thing, then inked and printed.

>>3692402
>>3692403
Youre so fucking bad just stop

>>3692405
what have you produced today my guy?

>>3692410
Yeah we all know you value quantity over quality lmao not a big revelation, are you painting with your cats shit or what

>>3692419
>Yeah we all know you value quantity over quality lmao not a big revelation
Production is the name of the game kiddo. Nobody will ever be impressed by how much you justify why you don't do anything. End of the day you're just a buttblasted do-nothing cuck.
>are you painting with your cats shit or what
no just mechanical pencil stuff today. Does this sick burn work better in your native language?

>>3692426
I feel like im being attacked by a 4 year old with downs syndrome calling me names hahaha

>>3692403
this is interesting. Be better if either the monitor or the reflection was bigger in the frame.
>>3692402
better than a lot of the stuff on this board. Some of the hatches on the cheek are distracting. You have a weird shitty style so it's hard to say what's wrong with it.

>>3692430
>I feel like im being attacked
yeah that's because you're a mimsy snowflake kid. You respond to things in my thread within like a minute as an excuse to impotently talk shit, and then "feel attacked" when you can't handle the bantz. Shouldn't you be on tumblr or somewhere being a faggot about feelings? Why is you spreading your cancer in this thread exactly?
>hahaha
it's funny because you're sitting by yourself somewhere and you probably haven't made a noise in 30 minutes.

>>3692445
>Be better if either the monitor or the reflection was bigger in the frame.
you right. definitely finna do more eyeball pov things.

Next one I'm thinking I'll do one with a mirror taking up most of the frame, and I'll do a left eyeball pov, then a right eyeball pov, and maybe try and photoshop them together or something

>>3692458
youre so autistic it comes through in your formatting lmao

>>3681146
>A: Pretty sure it's one of the same buttblasted kids as always.

Is it really that hard to believe there aren't several people who were sick of you derailing threads with your ugly pictures. It screams insecurity and attention-seeking. It's so blatant that even though I'm a typically level-headed person and I actually kind of liked you when I first came across you several months ago until I saw you spam every thread for attention from then on.
It's kind of depressing in a way that makes me a bit sad and angry at the same time. You posting your art constantly, waiting for the reaction you know will come, yet you do it anyway, getting giddy at the thought of people being irritated with your confidence that seems to come out of thin air since, looking at your paintings and the fact that you use grids (None of which are an accomplishment) it couldn't have come from anywhere else. Accusing them of being irrational and hateful and not even being able to self-reflect.

The worst part about that is while you sit here smugly posting your project, being an insufferable piece of shit that can't understand how being a spamming, obnoxious idiot for nearly an entire year can make people dislike(Hate) you. I'm not one to believe in free will so I know you're probably unaware of how annoying and unlikable you are and how unlikely it is you'll become aware of that because you can't view yourself from outside of your own perspective.

My dislike over the weeks turned into passive hate over the months I've had to look at your work. I leave for several months to actually get better at drawing, come back and you're still here. You're overall a depressing person to see because you think so highly of yourself, are so smug, so narcissistic, and constantly reuse your own paintings to transparently maintain the idea that your time wasn't wasted on it as it's quickly forgotten without your spam. You'll have to get over that. Stop trying so hard to be remembered, Jim.

>>3685551
About as bad as I expected anything not copied to be, despite my good hopes. My respect for you had gone down the drain.

That's very depressing. But you'll improve.

>>3692699
Inb4 he replies with an autistic breakdown of every single sentence in your objectively correct post

>>3692699
>Is it really that hard to believe there aren't several people who were sick of you derailing threads
Well A: It is several people. There's 2 doingusses that are pretty consistent then 2-3 other gals that are mad that I was mean to them and seek out reasons to shitpost.
B: The reason threads get "derailed" is that I post literally anything and one of the autoresponse doingusses responds and turns things into a shitfit.
>with your ugly pictures.
the threads generally get "derailed" by the conversation. The pictures are just supplemental.
>until I saw you spam every thread for attention from then on.
I mean I generally just post relevant shit in relevant threads. Just have an /ic/ tab open while I'm working.
>getting giddy at the thought of people being irritated with your confidence that seems to come out of thin air
Feels good to work.
>and the fact that you use grids
Van Gogh used grids. Rembrandt used grids. You don't use grids.
>Accusing them of being irrational and hateful
They generally aren't being friendly.
>and not even being able to self-reflect
this is all self-reflection.
>The worst part about that is while you sit here smugly posting your project
I just do it. this idea that it's "smug" seems weird. Mostly masochistic if anything.
> being an insufferable piece of shit that can't understand how being a spamming, obnoxious idiot for nearly an entire year can make people dislike(Hate) you.
World's their oyster.
>I'm not one to believe in free will so I know you're probably unaware of how annoying and unlikable you are
Not sure how the first part has to do with the second. And I'm kinda ok with being annoying and unlikeable.
> you can't view yourself from outside of your own perspective.
disagree.
>My dislike over the weeks turned into passive hate over the months I've had to look at your work.
I don't mind.
>. I leave for several months to actually get better at drawing, come back and you're still here.
I guess you didn't get better?

>>3692709
>>3692721

Haha called it, what a sperg jesus christ

>>3692699
>You're overall a depressing person to see because you think so highly of yourself
I tried twice to shoot my finger off the other day. I've a constant suicide risk. I hate literally everything I do. I don't know about this.
>and constantly reuse your own paintings to transparently maintain the idea that your time wasn't wasted on it as it's quickly forgotten without your spam.
idk a lot about this is confusing. I post reaction images more than once because they're all generally related to the top of the post. They're all specific maymamys.

And like time is only waste. i dont relate to trying to "maintain the idea that your time wasn't wasted."
>You'll have to get over that.
but it's not a thing I'm worried about?
>Stop trying so hard to be remembered, Jim.
Stop paying attention?
>>3692705
>About as bad as I expected anything not copied to be,
It's literally my first attempt at some anime shit ever. Almost everything I've posted ITT is hand drawn btw.
>despite my good hopes.
What good hopes?
>My respect for you had gone down the drain.
Because my first attempt at drawing some anime shit wasn't great? You're posting simpsons memes m8. Post your work.
>That's very depressing.
You're very depressing. You think about very depressing things and you're not going to make it.
> But you'll improve.
And you probably won't in all honesty.
>>3692709
I always do this. It's the (you) response bot meme.
>objectively correct post
Eh there's a good amount of projecting or missing the mark or just talking shit about feelings.
>>3692724
Yeah it's a consistent thing. It's how I read and process what people are saying to me. I read and respond to everything.

And like do you pride yourself on being average and unremarkable or something? Why do you think you're going to "make it" when all you know how to do is act like some normie faggot kid? Why not be less boring?

>>3692739
>Yeah it's a consistent thing. It's how I read and process what people are saying to me.

yeah because you have aspbergers at the very minimum, pull the trigger on the suicide already pussy the thread that died for your post is more valuable than your life

>>3692741
>yeah because you have aspbergers at the very minimum,
I like how you keep saying that I refuse to or am imcapable of seeing things from someone else's perspective, and then you also keep lobbing meme labels because you can't otherwise understand why I would do the things that I do.

Has it ever occurred to you that maybe you're just a useless faggot? Not everyone that creates structure for themselves has to be autistic.

>pull the trigger on the suicide already pussy
Nah nigga why do that when I know that my continued production really triggers random 15-year-olds. Your ire lights these fires bb.
>the thread that died for your post is more valuable than your life
If you can't bump a thread in 3 days to keep it from 404ing that's your problem. I love how buttblasted you are though. You should make a painting about your feelings right now. Do something useful with all your impotent rage. As it is you're just giving me fuel. You're expending your energy for my benefit, while you walk out of this exchange with nothing other than your hurt butt feels. If you don't do make something cool today you're letting me win.

>>3692721
>Feels good to work.
I commend you for being able to consider copying a picture work when you're achieving absolutely nothing.
>Van Gogh used grids. Rembrandt used grids. You don't use grids.
They probably didn't have god complexes about 'working hard' as they constantly reminded the people they were arguing with that they copy photos everyday.
They also probably had skills outside of 1:1 copying. If not the situation is not the same, as they probably weren't proudly making fun of other anonymous users on 4chan about how much harder they probably work, when you're not really doing anything of note.
>I guess you didn't get better?
I've actually hit my goal of being able to draw people from imagination. I've been animating for 7 or so years and hadn't really known how to draw them before. So yes I've improved and I am continuing to while I get out of my comfort zone. Good job drawing for a lot longer than me (I started last year) and still not managing to draw a head properly despite putting so much """""""""effort and work""""""""" into it.


I'll be here working on commissions and getting paid to do what I love without constantly having to rely on and refer to a picture.
That being said, there's nothing wrong with copying or whatever. Your attitude about being """hard working""" just doesn't match up for how much you actually are obviously unable to do.

>>3692739
>I hate literally everything I do. I don't know about this.
"WhAt DiD U MAke ToDay, Bro?"
>Stop paying attention?
Didn't even deny it. Fucking pathetic.
>And you probably won't in all honesty.
I guess he made you mad. Why don't you just not pay attention? Especially if you're constantly complaining about how tired of your dissenters you are and how they post autoresponses when your excuses are pretty much predictable word by word depending on what you're replying to.

>>3692724
Hilarious seeing the dude say someone makes autoresponses.

>>3692751
Wrong person, retard.

>>3692751
"hey whats up"
normal person: not much, how about you?


"hey whats up"
you (a petulant childish retard):

>hey
hay is for horses
>whats
it's actually 'what's' but someone of your intelligence wouldnt understand that, keep trying though
>up
are you asking what's above you or how i am doing, either way try spending some time thinking about thing before you say it like i do, maybe spend that time drawing

>>3676151
haven't been on /ic/ for a while so don't quite understand the hate for your work, it's not that bad. if anything I'd mostly focus on using more detailed brushstrokes and more consistant color scheming in each piece (some of the colors used don't really mix well together, especially the shadows in the face. Next tip may help with this), maybe blend the shading in a bit more? I like the expressiveness, keep at it.

>>3692755

KEK
Based and blackpilled.

>>3692753
>I commend you for being able to consider copying a picture work when you're achieving absolutely nothing.
you missed a word or whatever. I commend you for doing nothing and telling yourself that you're even with people that do something because you tell yourself the something they do doesn't count. That it's "absolutely nothing." That makes us even in your eyes! Classic.
>They probably didn't have god complexes about 'working hard'
How is it a god complex? Do you have a "god complex" about being lazy?
>as they constantly reminded the people they were arguing with that they copy photos everyday.
I mean what do we mean by "copy?" You only value art that is entirely unsourced from imagination with no references or what?
>They also probably had skills outside of 1:1 copying.
Eh Van Gogh was pretty autistic about using the big ol grid frame and looking actual images.

Plus I have a fair amount of "skills" related to artistic production.
>as they probably weren't proudly making fun of other anonymous users on 4chan
I'm not "proudly" doing anything. And I'm not "making fun" of you really. You're doing that on your own.
>when you're not really doing anything of note.
Your essay suggests otherwise. Lot of notes here.
>I've actually hit my goal of being able to draw people from imagination.
A: good for you I guess? Your pic related tells a different story.
B: I was drawing people from imagination when I was 13. I went to an art magnet school for most of muh grade school years.
>I've been animating for 7 or so years and hadn't really known how to draw them before.
dope.
>So yes I've improved and I am continuing to
show don't tell bozo.
>Good job drawing for a lot longer than me (I started last year)
Went without saying m8.
>and still not managing to draw a head properly
I can draw a head pretty well my guy. Sorry you're so upset but there's no need to be disingenuous.

>>3692753
>I'll be here working on commissions and getting paid to do what I love without constantly having to rely on and refer to a picture.
A: still not sure why you're anonymously swearing that you're special or whatever. I don't care.
B: Being able to draw from imagination is cool and all but nobody actually cares. If I want to make a portrait of a celebrity it'd be retarded to try and do that shit cold. Why bother? Just because you can doesn't necessarily mean you should.
>That being said, there's nothing wrong with copying or whatever.
Tell that to your fucking essay you uppity cunt.
>Your attitude about being """hard working""" just doesn't match up for how much you actually are obviously unable to do.
Whatever you gotta tell yourself newfag. You're not going to make it.
>"WhAt DiD U MAke ToDay, Bro?"
Yeah this upsets you because you did nothing.
>Didn't even deny it. Fucking pathetic.
I mean it wasn't really accurate but it wasn't completely wrong either. I mostly do this shit for the archive and the conflict. This isn't really the means to being "remembered" on it's own.

Not to mention that most artists do things to be remembered. It's the only afterlife there is.
>I guess he made you mad.
Did he?
> Why don't you just not pay attention?
You're in my thread?
>Especially if you're constantly complaining about how tired of your dissenters you are
I'm not? I'm actively engaging with them. I could have just not agitated and baited and fed your insecurities but I did didn't I?
>and how they post autoresponses when your excuses are pretty much predictable word by word depending on what you're replying to.
Yeah that's why I created the wikia.
>Hilarious seeing the dude say someone makes autoresponses.
idk maybe you struggle with english or maybe I didn't say that as best I could. I meant "autoresponse" as in I can post in a thread and within minutes often I get the same kid bitching at me personally.
>>3692754
You're all anon2me

>>3692755
ok now THIS is epic!!!
>>3692756
>haven't been on /ic/ for a while so don't quite understand the hate for your work, it's not that bad.
It's hate for me as a person mostly. I make them feel bad about themselves for some reason.
>if anything I'd mostly focus on using more detailed brushstrokes and more consistant color scheming in each piece
coolcoolcool wil do
>maybe blend the shading in a bit more
Yeah I'm going to be moving into blending again soon so I'll work on it.
>I like the expressiveness, keep at it.
thanks bud you too

>>3692760
>>3692755
Holy fuck this is accurate. It all makes sense now. He probably thinks he's some genius or something with the replies he's giving. They're something a 12 year old just learning about sarcastic rebutals would say.
>you missed a word or whatever. I commend you for doing nothing and telling yourself that you're even with people that do something because you tell yourself the something they do doesn't count. That it's "absolutely nothing." That makes us even in your eyes! Classic.
Good one.
>I mean what do we mean by "copy?" You only value art that is entirely unsourced from imagination with no references or what?
I use references when I'm studying a subject. I never said references were bad. My problem is you acting as if you're putting in work when you're simply using grids and not even thinking critically about your art in any way. Then you turn around to other anons and tell them how lazy they are when you're too afraid to teach yourself to draw from imagination. Even with reference you're absolute garbage.
>Plus I have a fair amount of "skills" related to artistic production.
Take a look at any of the drawings you posted that weren't directly and heavily referenced and tell me that same thing. I have no idea how you can look at those pictures and say anything like that. Your weaknesses show in nearly every one of your paintings. Your sketches show how unfounded your basics are. You chicken scratch, draw symbols, fail to understand basic anatomy.
I won't compare myself to you though, as we have entirely different skill sets. But even giving you the benefit of the doubt you fail in many aspects to not symbol draw after years of drawing which is kind of sad since I fixed these bad habits halfway into my practices.
>Your essay suggests otherwise. Lot of notes here.
Good one!
>A: good for you I guess? Your pic related tells a different story.
What the fuck are you on about?
>I can draw a head
Your black and white drawings say otherwise.

>>3692768
>A: still not sure why you're anonymously swearing that you're special or whatever. I don't care.
Such a dishonest faggot. You're sitting here calling me lazy, and telling me all kinds of shit and when I tell you that I actually do/have done more than your entire time drawing or painting you react sarcastically as if me mentioning that was out of thin air.
>B: Being able to draw from imagination is cool and all but nobody actually cares. If I want to make a portrait of a celebrity it'd be retarded to try and do that shit cold. Why bother? Just because you can doesn't necessarily mean you should.
Good point, except, again, I never said referencing was bad. I said you being such a cunt about working hard when all you do is copy isn't really an accomplishment. If you shut the fuck up about how much you do, as if you do anything actually that hard to learn or takes any amount of effort that a normalfag couldn't just learn easily. Nothing you do requires critical thinking. It's just heavily referencing something. So let me establish that it's okay to reference, but I don't think it's okay to take so much pride in it while acting like you do anything significant.
>Tell that to your fucking essay you uppity cunt.
Ok? The essay is about your unfounded pride in being mediocre (Usually bad) at copying while shitting on others for being lazy, not copying itself, faggot.
>Whatever you gotta tell yourself newfag. You're not going to make it.
Already did. I work at an anime animation studio and do commissions for porn on the side.
>Not to mention that most artists do things to be remembered.
What a surprise. lol at you thinking you'll actually be remembered. I forget about you usually the second I'm off this board. Didn't even notice you were gone until I saw this thread a few days ago because I was actually working on getting better and not arguing on 4chan all day, whining about how much time I waste while also assuring I'm working too.

>>3692768
>You're in my thread?
Why don't you just ignore that then, snowflake?
>I'm not? I'm actively engaging with them. I could have just not agitated and baited and fed your insecurities but I did didn't I?
No, you're dismissing their arguments with meme-tier retorts. You sound like me when I first started ysing the internet and didn't know how to argue against people making fun of my first animations.
You're an adult. Act like one.
>idk maybe you struggle with english or maybe I didn't say that as best I could. I meant "autoresponse" as in I can post in a thread and within minutes often I get the same kid bitching at me personally.
That's my point you illiterate retard. You're saying people respond quickly when as soon as you get a reply you write entire essays. Fucking idiot.

>>3692772
>He probably thinks he's some genius or something with the replies he's giving.
I don't really think about it at all though. It's just about using the argument format to practice writing rants and stuff.
>They're something a 12 year old just learning about sarcastic rebutals would say.
Said the 14-year-old.
>Good one.
I mean it's pretty standard NPC dialogue tree shit. You're bad at art and you're lazy and that is reflected in the things you say. You aren't the first or last person to project their insecurities at me.
>I use references when I'm studying a subject.
I wouldn't know since you escared to post work.
>I never said references were bad.
Yeah just anything that I do is bad until you shitpost yourself into a corner and have to backtrack.
>My problem is
You. I'm not your problem kiddo.
>and not even thinking critically about your art in any way.
Think pretty critically about it tbphwyf.
>Then you turn around to other anons and tell them how lazy they are
No you tell me how lazy you are.
>when you're too afraid to teach yourself to draw from imagination.
I can almost certainly draw from imagination better than you.
>Take a look at any of the drawings you posted that weren't directly and heavily referenced and tell me that same thing
ok.
>I have no idea how you can look at those pictures and say anything like that.
you also don't have any experience or meaningful frame of reference.
>our weaknesses show in nearly every one of your paintings.
Wabi sabi brah.
>Your sketches show how unfounded your basics are.
eh. all about that novel aesthetic bb.
>You chicken scratch,
yeah
>draw symbols
yeah?
> fail to understand basic anatomy.
it's not terrible.
>I won't compare myself to you though
Because you suck and you're lazy.
>since I fixed these bad habits halfway into my practices.
I lean into them.
>Your black and white drawings say otherwise.
YOU say otherwise because you have a bone to pick.

>>3692760
>B: I was drawing people from imagination when I was 13. I went to an art magnet school for most of muh grade school years.

That is actually not a good thing at all. I meant to reply to this last because it's so hilariously sad, especially looking at your drawings that aren't painted/paintings, but I forgot.
Revealing this just made you look that much worse. You've learned nothing, especially while I'm looking at these messes of attempts at shading and copying fullbody photos. Especially the one with the two women in skirts. I did better than that at least a month into learning gesture drawings.
>I don't really think about it at all though.
Who would have guessed?
>Said the 14-year-old.
Good one.
>I wouldn't know since you escared to post work.
I'm not. The work worth showing is under an NDA. It would reveal my identity and cause me to lose my job. Plus I don't give a shit about you thinking I'm bad to make yourself feel better.
>Yeah just anything that I do is bad until you shitpost yourself into a corner and have to backtrack.
Nah I said you being such a smug faggot about it was unwarranted because you're not showing anything for the years you've been working. Your quality is inconsistent and it shows you have barely any understanding of the fundamentals outside of anything you do currently. Yet you have the gall to tell someone they're probably bad.
>I can almost certainly draw from imagination better than you.
Post a drawing from imagination and I will do one too.
>>You chicken scratch,
>yeah
>>draw symbols
>yeah?
Exactly.
>YOU say otherwise because you have a bone to pick.
I can objectively look at your paintings and say some of them aren't too bad. But I would be lying if I said many many many of them don't have several mistakes that could be fixed with a basic look into your fundamentals. But you're too lazy to learn them.
Don't call me lazy when I put the effort into teaching myself not to chicken scratch, see/draw form, and perspective.

>>3692781
>Such a dishonest faggot.
rude
>You're sitting here calling me lazy
you clearly are. That's what all of this is about. That's why you're so upset right now.
>and telling me all kinds of shit and when I tell you that I actually do/have done more than your entire time drawing or painting
If you did you'd demonstrate it.
>you react sarcastically as if me mentioning that was out of thin air.
Yeah you're baselessly talking about yourself anonymously for no reason.
>Good point, except, again, I never said referencing was bad.
You've repeatedly said it was or tried to disqualify hand drawings I did as being "heavily referenced." You were clearly implying that it isn't good.
>I said you being such a cunt about working hard when all you do is copy isn't really an accomplishment.
And you're being a cunt and you don't even have anything to show for it lol.
>If you shut the fuck up about how much you do
Please keep justifying all the things you don't do, sniveling cuck.
>or takes any amount of effort that a normalfag couldn't just learn easily.
My entire point from the beginning was that ANYONE CAN DO THIS. This idea that you should only try doing art if you are THE CHOSEN ONE with magical hand drawing from imagination skills or whatever nonsense barrier to entry you use to feel better about doing nothing, is cancer.
>but I don't think it's okay to take so much pride in it
I don't care about you though. Much less your retarded approach to creative production.
>Ok? The essay is about your unfounded pride in being mediocre
One must picture sisyphus smiling.
>while shitting on others for being lazy
It's the worst thing you can be.
>Already did.
lol animu porn.
>What a surprise.
Most people don't draw shameful waifu trash porn that they're embarrassed about.
>lol at you thinking you'll actually be remembered.
You can't seem to forget.
> I forget about you usually the second I'm off this board.
And yet here you are writing essays.

>>3692800
>You've repeatedly said it was or tried to disqualify hand drawings I did as being "heavily referenced." You were clearly implying that it isn't good.
You have terrible reading comprehension. I won't say it again.
>My entire point from the beginning was that ANYONE CAN DO THIS.
You say while smugly telling other people they don't do as much work as you. lol ok.
>It's the worst thing you can be.
Exactly, so put effort into learning instead of mindlessly copying.
>Most people don't draw shameful waifu trash porn that they're embarrassed about.
Ey, gotta make a living, my nigga.
>You can't seem to forget.
Remembering someone from my time at school or an annoying person doesn't make them anymore significant to me than a canker sore I've had one year ago for a day. If your life is pathetic to the point where someone remembering you as you present yourself in front of them is an accomplishment, good on you, I guess. Weirdo.
>And yet here you are writing essays.
Yet you're triggered, replying to me calling me lazy because you're so assmad I'm calling out your symbol drawing and basic bitch paintings for what they are. Nothing noteworthy.

>>3692785
>Why don't you just ignore that then, snowflake?
Oh no I love conflict. You being this agitated is great for me creatively. You're essentially doing what I want from (you).
>No, you're dismissing their arguments with meme-tier retorts.
Not really many valid arguments at this point. we're pretty balls deep into the "personally gets triggered by me and is grasping at anything to keep the argument going" territory.
>You sound like me when I first started ysing the internet
So like 2013?
>and didn't know how to argue against people making fun of my first animations.
You don't know how to argue now either.
>You're an adult. Act like one.
Post your animu lewds.
>That's my point you illiterate retard.
I was giving you wiggle room for the ambiguous meaning behind "autoresponse." Because I also have the "autoresponse (you) bot" meme that I was doing all summer where I was writing stock responses that could respond automatically to specific keywords and the standard meme critiques.
>You're saying people respond quickly
Yeah the same people. There's the guy that always talks about rats, who along with another guy like to obsess about my housekeeping habits and lifestyle memes. There's the kid that I was really mean to at one point about how he's a faggot for reporting torrents after he downloads them because he thinks he needs to sabotage random strangers to give himself a leg up, etc. It's a whole thing.
>when as soon as you get a reply you write entire essays.
yeah and?
>Fucking idiot.
Seriously post your cartoon porn.

>>3692809
>Oh no I love conflict.
Ok? Not sure how this changes any of the points I make.
>You being this agitated is great for me creatively.
Glad I'm motivating a garbage artist to up his game. That's exactly what I want! Be sure to thank me when you're better.
>So like 2013?
2012.
>Post your animu lewds.
NDA. Autistic OC Donut Steel commissionees.
>yeah and?
Yeah let's just ignore the context as to not seem retarded and hypocritical. Like clockwork.
>Seriously post your cartoon porn.
I would say post your work but you've done all the embarrassment I needed you to. Not sure how you can say any of this with your artwork on display.

I always think might have improved and then you go and post pic related. That's cool that you can post that while keeping up the facade that you know what you're talking about. It's actually comical.

>>3692806
>You have terrible reading comprehension. I won't say it again.
No I comprehended what you said. You're just a hypocrite and a backslider that will say whatever you can to "win" an unwinnable shitflinging contest with an autoresponse meme robot.
>You say while smugly telling other people they don't do as much work as you.
They don't. And you don't. The point kind of always is that anyone can figure out basic painting techniques. But very few people actually put in the time and grind and get the raw experience needed to build on their work and find new and novel directions to go, etc.

And you fucking do anime porn on a tablet? You have goddamn edit+undo and you're acting like an uppity cunt at me about basic standard painting strategies?
>Exactly, so put effort into learning
Literally every painting is a different process and approach. You draw cartoon tiddies on your mom's ipad.
>Ey, gotta make a living, my nigga.
Anonymously. Because you're only "good" at making art about your pervert impulses. You can draw a squid fucking an 8-year-old without references!
>If your life is pathetic to the point where someone remembering you as you present yourself in front of them is an accomplishment, good on you, I guess.
If your life is so pathetic that you jerk off cartoons for weeb tweens anonymously and you think that being able to do them without references is an accomplishment, you probably get triggered by someone like me and that's why you're here endlessly whining that my brain isn't broken like yours.
>Yet you're triggered,
Not really. This is pretty standard. You're more desperately persistent than most so it's kind of weird and annoying but it's still interesting getting to learn what's wrong with you.
> replying to me calling me lazy
I took a shot in the dark and you confirmed it tbphwyf
>ecause you're so assmad I'm calling out your symbol drawing
idk that I really do symbol drawing
>Nothing noteworthy.
this is still a lot of notes.

>>3692830
>And you fucking do anime porn on a tablet? You have goddamn edit+undo and you're acting like an uppity cunt at me about basic standard painting strategies?
Imagine being a fag who cares about the medium you use. Insecure baby.
I do both traditional and digital if it makes you feel better you triggered snowflake.
>Literally every painting is a different process and approach. You draw cartoon tiddies on your mom's ipad.
I draw tiddies on a graphics tablet and on paper. Along with actual studies of the fundamentals, anatomy, etc. All of which you're too lazy and fucking stupid to learn, as you excuse yourself of being garbage by saying you purposefully put in no effort to make a point. Yet I'm still better than you'll ever be though. LOL
I have skills that range in all directions while all you can do is paint on a fucking canvas and badly. You're acting superior and yet you're a bitch who's scared to leave his comfort zone, while I make animations for companies in both 3D and 2D, sculpt, draw, compose my own music for myself and others. So get the fuck off of your high horse you one trick pony. You can barely correctly do your main focus correctly while I manage to do all of that and more. Lazy fuck. Keep excusing yourself from actually working hard.
>Anonymously. Because you're only "good" at making art about your pervert impulses. You can draw a squid fucking an 8-year-old without references!
I don't draw anime.
>If your life is so pathetic that you jerk off cartoons for weeb tweens anonymously and you think that being able to do them without references is an accomplishment, you probably get triggered by someone like me and that's why you're here endlessly whining that my brain isn't broken like yours.
Uhuh. Pot, meet hypothetical and wrongly guessed kettle
>idk that I really do symbol drawing
Case in point. :)

>>3692819
>Ok? Not sure how this changes any of the points I make.
You asked why I don't ignore (you). I explained that responding to (you) is part of my whole thing. All the arguing and feeding off the projected bitterness is part of muh process.
>Glad I'm motivating a garbage artist to up his game.
No you motivate me to make garbage. I feed off your dysfunction.
>2012.
LOL you have to be 18 to post here fucking dipshit kid.
>I would say post your work but you've done all the embarrassment I needed you to.
I'm not embarrassed to do work. I don't draw pervert gook toons for incels. Your priorities are rotten.
>Not sure how you can say any of this with your artwork on display.
Because I'm not a sniveling kid? I like the idea though that you think arguments are disqualified by shitty work. And then you post anonymously. Says a lot about your opinion of your work.
>That's cool that you can post that while keeping up the facade that you know what you're talking about.
Unambiguously know WAY more than you.
>It's actually comical.
I mean it's good that you can appreciate when you're the punchline.

>>692836
>Imagine being a fag who cares about the medium you use.
You talk shit about using a ruler when you use a computer. Makes you a hypocrite.
>Insecure baby.
Clearly projecting.
>I do both traditional and digital if it makes you feel better
I don't care. Plus you're probably lying. How would I know?
>All of which you're too lazy and fucking stupid to learn,
I went to art magnet school in the 90s.
>Yet I'm still better than you'll ever be though.
she said anonymously.
>I have skills that range in all directions
Mostly just shitposting about your feelings from what I can tell.
>compose my own music for myself and others.
post your soundcloud lol
>So get the fuck off of your high horse you one trick pony.
I'm not on one. You're the one attacking using grids and references when you're a digimon smut peddler.

>>3692846
>You asked why I don't ignore (you). I explained that responding to (you) is part of my whole thing. All the arguing and feeding off the projected bitterness is part of muh process.
Keep telling yourself that.
>No you motivate me to make garbage. I feed off your dysfunction.
Exactly. You're doing exactly what I want you to when I tell you you're shit. Because you're bad and I want you to get better! That's a good thing.
>LOL you have to be 18 to post here fucking dipshit kid.
Couldn't afford a decent enough computer until then.
>I'm not embarrassed to do work. I don't draw pervert gook toons for incels. Your priorities are rotten.You're triggered as fuck that I get jobs on big 2D projects and 3D indie games. I get paid well. Couldn't give a shit less what you think.
>Because I'm not a sniveling kid? I like the idea though that you think arguments are disqualified by shitty work. And then you post anonymously. Says a lot about your opinion of your work.
Good one.
>Unambiguously know WAY more than you.
t. symbol drawing, beginner tier sketcher who polishes turds
>You talk shit about using a ruler when you use a computer. Makes you a hypocrite.
When I began I used a pen so I wouldn't erase anything. I don't undo. I draw and paint traditionally you smug bitch.
>I went to art magnet school in the 90s.
Yikes. With nothing to show for it apparently.
>post your soundcloud lol
Bandcamp actually. But that's for project unrelated to my work. I animate and produce for video games. I've been dreaming of producing for movies and cartoons though.
>I'm not on one. You're the one attacking using grids and references when you're a digimon smut peddler.
Nah I'm attacking your cringy attempts at proving to people you work hard, or how superior you are to them when all you do is copy. Your reading comprehension is just garbage. You can't help it though. It's alright.

>>3692851
>Keep telling yourself that.
I'm telling you that. Life doesn't stop and start at your convenience. The whole thing was started as a meme on some anon I kept arguing about BvS with.
>Exactly. You're doing exactly what I want you to when I tell you you're shit.
I make memeschlock paintings designed to be agitating. I solicit the ideas for the paintings from /tv/ and the concepts about the paintings from /ic/. The entire point of the peasant paintings is they're about (you)!
>Because you're bad and I want you to get better!
Eh you've clearly got your own internal reasons motivating all of this autism. You don't really know enough about any of this shit to be of any practical use. You get trigged by grid canvas transfers. You're not even /beg/ tier on this shit.

Plus you're not intellectually honest. You don't "argue" in good faith and you're incapable of meaningful critical empathy. Even if you did have any depth of knowledge in acrylic painting I wouldn't really be interested after all this whiny ad-hominem autism you're wasting your time with.

>t. symbol drawing, beginner tier sketcher
again how I draw isn't really symbol drawing and I'm not sure what you're looking at that suggest I am. Explain to me what you meme by this.
>who polishes turds
on the sketches? They're just like 1-2 hour idle drawings. How are they "polished?"
>When I began I used a pen so I wouldn't erase anything.
yeah >>3678550 were done with pen. They're all about this meme because we've been talking about this shit for years.

>>3692851

>I don't undo. I draw and paint traditionally you smug bitch.
Again with the smug shit. You're too much of a coward slut to actually demonstrate that you don't suck while you keep annoyingly promising that you do. Tits or gtfo I don't trust you.
>Yikes. With nothing to show for it apparently.
Got 300 paintings and a harem of buttblasted virginal stalkers that lie on the internet.
>Nah I'm attacking your cringy attempts at proving to people you work hard
The output speaks for itself. It's all I do.

And the only reason we're still talking about work ethic is that you got triggered when I called out your insecurities and you're obsessed about it.

>or how superior you are to them
I never say I'm superior to anyone. THIS IS WHAT IM TALKING ABOUT. YOU PROJECT YOUR OWN MALIGNANCY AT ME AND ASSUME I'M A BITTER FAGGOT LIKE YOU. I'm a piece of shit! I don't care if you are better or worse than me! How would I even know!?
>Your reading comprehension is just garbage.
No you just don't really have an argument because everything is about your faggot feelings.
>You can't help it though. It's alright.
No it fucking isn't alright kiddo. You're spending a lot of time actively doing nothing other than arguing anonymously that you're special at a stranger. You're just writing essay after essay of this desperate ad hominem shit with no actual point or goal because you have some cunty personal problems with me. You don't have any critique other than you think I'm uppity.

Like this idea that you're successful or not lazy is really shit on by the amount of time you've invested into telling me I'm not better than you anonymously. Stop projecting your bullshit at me and draw your own shit you doingus.

>>3692846
>I don't care. Plus you're probably lying. How would I know?
The fact that you're doubting whether I'm lying or not makes me feel 100x better because my skillset is so far beyond your one trick pony mindset that you can't conceive of someone doing multiple things. Tell me I'm lying and make me feel that much better because I know it's the truth. I told you I've been animating for a long time ever since I got my first computer and working internet connection which was in 2012. Couldn't draw so I did 3D and sticks.

Add on to the fact that I'm 19 and have connections with people I used to animate stickfigures with that brought me into the industry while you sit here painting nearly the same images telling others how much better you are then. Then you shit on me for making side money by drawing porn as if I give a shit as long as I'm making money.
Your denial makes me feel that much better and proves your insecurities.

>Again with the smug shit. You're too much of a coward slut to actually demonstrate that you don't suck while you keep annoyingly promising that you do.
Uhuh.
>I never say I'm superior to anyone.
You're telling me and other people how they're ngmi and how they're lazy. Then you go back saying you weren't acting superior while you were telling people how much harder you work than them and how much they probably suck and won't show their work. But alright lol.

I animated a thing with my mouse for you. It was kind of annoying to do but since you insist on me being a liar because you're insecure, here you go

>>3692872
>I'm telling you that. Life doesn't stop and start at your convenience.
Keep telling yourself that.
>designed to be agitating.
Keep telling yourself that.
>You don't really know enough about any of this shit to be of any practical use. You get trigged by grid canvas transfers.
Nah, cting like you're some hard working inspiration and putting others down when your shit barely requires any skill, as shown by your drawings that aren't heavily referenced because they're completely lacking in everything an artist needs to be aware of to be considered good.
It's like making music by copying other songs, putting it in 8bit and claiming it as yours. If all you can do is take from other things with changing anything then what's the point? Then again, not everyone has a reason, and that's fine. Just stop acting as if what you're doing requires anything other than eyeballs.
>again how I draw isn't really symbol drawing
Exactly. You have no idea, but that's why I'm telling you. You draw things how you think they look instead of how they actually look. You put down what you imagine it is without knowing the actual forms of say, the nose. If it's not one painting it's another that shows that you still have no grasp on what's required to learn to paint.
>No it fucking isn't alright kiddo. You're spending a lot of time actively doing nothing
You're doing the same. But it's ok because it's you're schick, huh. So delusional. Everything bad you do is on purpose when convenient apparently. You're mentally ill.
>You don't have any critique other than you think I'm uppity.
I pointed out things and you dismissed them by saying
>yeah
>yeah?
Fuck off. Dishonest prick. Your strokes are so obviously random, your perspective is off >>3692846
A perfect example is this. You clearly have no grasp of anything needed. The brows are misaligned. Ear is high. Nose is pointed in a completely different direction. Strokes are disgusting.That enough? Fix that symbol drawing. Study the skull.

>>3692944
>>3692922
not interested in this meow. tldr ttyl

>>3692405
That's rude anon

>>3692922
>>3692944
>>3692963
Actually left him speechless.
Fucking KEK. BTFO

>>3692872
>I make memeschlock paintings designed to be agitating
>>3687894

>>3692975
>Actually left him speechless.
I mean sure. I didn't read it. Is it good?
>>3692994
>>3687947

>>3693007
I wouldn't say he blew you the fuck out if it wasn't, would I?

>>3692922
>The fact that you're doubting whether I'm lying or not makes me feel 100x better
k?
>because my skillset is so far beyond your one trick pony mindset
I still wouldn't know would I?
>hat you can't conceive of someone doing multiple things.
I didn't get into acrylic painting until I was ~28. Spent about a decade working in video production. Have a bunch of experience doing prints and pastels and have goofed with 3d. Getting real into sculpture in year 4
>Tell me I'm lying and make me feel that much better because I know it's the truth.
again I don't know you
>I told you I've been animating for a long time ever since I got my first computer and working internet connection which was in 2012.
Didn't you also say you've only been drawing for a year?
>Couldn't draw so I did 3D and sticks.
so you spent 5 years doing artistic production in spite of not knowing le fundamentals? And you're mad at me because in year 2 I've only done ~40 hand drawn to canvas paintings?
>Add on to the fact that I'm 19
yeah you're hormonal and edgy and shit. Went without saying.
> Then you shit on me for making side money by drawing porn
Yeah. Filthy degenerate.
>as if I give a shit as long as I'm making money.
you could turn tricks in the alley and make a lot more
>Your denial makes me feel that much better
well yeah as we've said a bunch your purpose for being here is entirely about you seeking an ego boost. This has been all about your feelings the entire time.
>You're telling me and other people how they're ngmi and how they're lazy.
Yeah.
> Then you go back saying you weren't acting superior
I wasn't. Particularly not when we're talking about technical skill or adherence to le fundamentals. in terms of "obsessively spending all of your waking hours working on your artistic production" I probably do put in a lot more hours than almost everyone here. But the idea that this is me concerned about superiority is silly. It's an outcome of mental illness after all.